Our First Trash Taste Convention | Trash Taste #103
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Hey guys, welcome to another Trash Taste episode. Oh, sorry. Starting things off good, I see. If you couldn't tell, we're in a different location. In fact, we're on the road right now. We're in the beautiful city of London. Yeah. I thought you were going to say the beautiful city of England. Yeah, the beautiful city of the United Kingdom. England is my city. England is my city. And no, I'm not from Compton.

hopefully it looks good we brought our cameras we're using different mics so hopefully it won't be too different of a trash taste experience and it should be like this for like two or three episodes so if you like the old setup or you like a different setup we'll mix it up we'll mix it up we're going to have a few weeks here we're going to film a few episodes here then we're going to change places again because we are on the road right now this is

a very like guerrilla kind of setup. We kind of brought all of our equipment from like, it is jank as fuck. Oh my God. It like, I walked in this room and I'm like, this, this is like making me feel nostalgic. Yeah. It's like the old studio. Yeah. It's like the old studio. There's like the trip hazards are back here. Like there's wise everywhere. Uh, but hopefully we're making it work. Yeah. Yeah. But Hey, welcome back. This is, I guess the proper like start to like season three of trash taste now. Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh,

by the time we're recording this we had just finished mcm london yeah which i think by the time of releasing won't be too far off we went there about two weeks yeah is it yeah yeah yeah i'm like i'm like where the fuck are we in my trash taste time i have no idea i have no idea but yeah uh it was my first mcm london yeah there's only my second time in london just in

in general yeah so MCM is a I don't know what it stands for but it's comic-con basically it's comic-con it's London comic-con and it's like the biggest UK convention massive comic meet massive comic make massive comic meet massive comic meet it's like an A1 everyone has A1 comics

No, but I mean, yeah, it's good to be back there. We haven't gone in like three years. I mean, this is my first convention since 2019 AX. I think it is for all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was the last convention we all went to. And I believe the last Comic Con or the last MCM I went to was probably 2018, I think.

No, maybe even 2017 because I went to MomoCon like one of the few years and it's the same weekend as MCM. So it's been a very, very long time since I've been to MCM. Well, irregardless, it was a very different experience. Yeah, because not only it was our first con in three years, but it was also our first con as Trash Taste. Yeah. So we had no idea what to expect. Yeah.

I mean, a lot of shit happened, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it kind of put things into perspective. Just one, like how long it's been since Trash Taster started. And two, how long it's been since the world has moved on since Trash Taster started. Because I remember like, this is not anything to do with MCM, but I remember like we met Kevin.

met Kevin and his partner. Kevin Penkin, by the way. Yeah, Kevin Penkin. Sorry, I should have... It's just Kevin. You know the Kevin. You know the Kevin. There's only one Kevin in the world. Garnt's the worst at this. Garnt just throws names out that mean nothing to people. So we met our friend Bob. Yeah, you know Bob, right? It's like, don't say anyone's name or fully explain. Sorry, we met Kevin Penkin who has flown over here to the UK as well. And I remember the first thing...

his partner says to me is, oh, congratulations on everything, by the way. And I'm like, well, what are you talking about? And she's just like, you guys have been killing it. And I'm just like, so proud of you guys. And I'm like, wait,

I haven't met you since before Trash Taste started. That's so fucking surreal to me, right? Because I feel like the last time I met Kevin was just like a year or two ago, right? And I'm just like, wait, the last time I met Kevin, Trash Taste didn't exist. It was like, it was nothing. It feels like we started it two months ago

but in reality it's been two whole freaking years yeah yeah and it's just like and that two years though it's just gone like that yeah you know yeah and now like meeting people like meeting friends who I count as like really really close friends and them congratulating me for starting Trash Taste is like so fucking weird you know I'm like congrats on starting Trash Taste what are we on like episode 5 or something yeah right

You guys got a long way to go still. Meanwhile, we had just released 100 episodes of this shit.

We should realize how isolated you are in Japan. Yeah. Cause like, you know, we don't get to speak much English outside of like our crew. Yeah. So it's so like, you know, it's like 10 of us and then no, no one else. Yeah. But then obviously here it's like, Oh, your friends are there. Oh, their friend knows trash taste. But it's like, our friends don't know outside of like our group here. No one knows trash taste. Yeah. Yeah. They don't, they don't fucking watch English podcasts. Yeah. Yeah.

Suffering with success. Is that what we're titling this episode? Probably. Suffering from success. DJ Khaled. Oh, God. Yeah, but it was the first MCN for me. I'd only heard of MCN from these guys mostly. And, you know, I was like, okay, it's like, what, the biggest con in the UK probably? Yeah. Probably by far. No, it's definitely the biggest. Not the biggest con in Europe though, right? No, that's Japan con, I believe. I'm not sure.

I'm going to guess. Oh, Anime Japan. No, isn't it? No, it's Gamescom, isn't it? In Germany? I was talking about Anime Convict. Let's see whose bullshit is the best here. I think it might be. I heard there's an anime...

I know there's a Japan Expo in Paris that's gigantic. Anime Japan. Or Anime Japan, something. I thought it was Japan Expo. Something with like, it's got the fucking rotary of like Anime Expo Japan. It's like mix and match, bro. It's one of them. I don't know which one it is. Are we all talking about the same convention? We're all talking about the same convention because we don't remember what it's called. Japan Expo.

Japan Expo. Yeah, I think now that you say Japan Expo, it makes sense. It's huge, but I don't know anyone who's gone to it. But I mean, that's because British people, I don't know. Yeah. They're like France. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's Gamescom in Germany, right? Which is also huge. I've been to Gamescom. Gamescom is...

Yeah. I remember I went to Gamescom and like, I was like, yeah, man, I kind of, this is when the Switch was about to come out. Right. Right. And I remember that Nintendo had a booth to play Super Mario Odyssey for like 10 minutes. Right. And the line was like eight hours. Yeah.

And it was ridiculous. There was like a Japanese woman just standing outside with like a thing that said like, oh, the wait time is like 600 minutes or something. I was like, I was like, I was like, what? And people were like, yo, joining in this queue. I'm like, you know, the thing closes before this, this is done. What do you, what, what is this math? Right. Yeah. But like,

GamesCon is like so big that also I feel like you can't really do anything. Like it gets to a point where it's almost, you know, it's like this has reached a capacity where I can no longer do anything. I think I played like,

The only games you could actually get on in a reasonable amount of times were the games that were destined to fucking fail the moment they came out. The games that nobody gave a fuck about. Is it kind of like E3, in a sense? Yeah, it's E3, but for Europe. But it's open to the public, I think, all days by one. And it was just like, it was insane. I don't really want to go back. I think if I were to go back, it would be under a press release.

pass or something where you can just be like, see you losers. I'm going in line. I'm going to go to the front. Yeah. It's just like, I cut the entire line. I'm hyped for like, I was hyped for Super Mario Odyssey, but I'm not waiting over an hour hyped. Like an hour was pretty much my personal limit. I don't think I'm like, anything is worth me waiting an hour in terms of like games for me. No,

Like I can't think of a single game where I'm just like, yo, okay. Two hour, two hour wait time for like a, for like a five minute demo or something. Yo, let's go. Let's go. I think the longest I ever waited was like an hour and a half, hour and 40 TGS to play persona five.

- Right, was it worth it? - An hour and 40. - I mean, yeah, but you know how long that game is. So five minutes is not a lot of time to really get into it. - You can't do anything. You can't sink your teeth into it. What's the point? You know what I mean? You're just teasing me. - And it's like, I knew I was gonna buy it anyway. So I was just like, at the end of the hour and 40, I go to the front of the line. I was like, wow, that was a bike.

Definitely not as quiet as our studio. Yeah. Like, you know, I was waiting for like an hour and 30, hour and 40 minutes. And then I got to the front of the line. I was just like, wow, I don't know if this was even worth it or not. Oh, bro. You know what? I actually, game I played at Gamescom and that was like no line for, this is before Cuphead came out. And I was like, so fucking hyped to play Cuphead. And it was in like a 10 minute wait.

I played Cuphead and I was like, fuck yes, this game is awesome. I can't wait to buy it. And it was good. That was good. But yeah, so we went to MCM. We were there for three days. Well, I mean, Connor and I were there for three days. I was there for one day just because I had some things to do in and out here and there. So I only wanted to come in to one day.

But yeah, how was your first UK con experience, Joey? It was... I mean, we'll get into the details later, but it was a lot of ups and a lot of downs, that's for sure. It was very much a rollercoaster. I mean, like, you know...

Like, I expected, like, you know, British fans to be super chill, and they were for the most part. But of course, you know, at the same time, it's like, this is our first con as Trash Taste, right? So it's like, I knew that, like, my, you know, my fans, like, anime man fans, like British fans, would be, like, chill, as they usually are. You're blaming Trash Taste fans for the fun? I mean, like, could you say that it was, like, 100% chill?

I mean, I think... It was, for the most part, 100%. It was like, okay, so here's the thing. It was like 99.9% chill. Yeah. But then there were like those one or two people that obviously really, really stood out. And some of them even made waves. You might have even seen some clips online about some of the people we've had to deal with over the weekend. Yeah. Because it just like the intensity...

was just like way more intense than anything that I've ever experienced in my life before. Oh, I'm saying, yeah. Me and Joe, we walked around on, so it's a three-day con, right? Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And they have this odd ticket system that I've never seen in any other con where like every single day they have like a priority ticket, which means you can come in from nine and

and then a general ticket which means you can come in from I think 11 or 12 something like that I was a little confused about that I didn't quite get it it's just cheaper I don't really understand it but we walked around on like Friday at like 10am before everyone got in and like we could walk around it's pretty

chill like we got stopped a lot but like we could still walk like we went to get around you went Friday 10am which is literally the deadest time of the entire week you're not gonna get a deader time than that time so at least like you know I got to actually like walk around even for a little bit to like actually see what the con was like and all the other places because it's

Freaking massive isn't it? Yeah. That's really big. It's just like 20 warehouses just attached to each other. Yeah exactly. But yeah I mean that was cool but then you know it's very yeah once the actual like general admission started to come in around like 11, 12 ish. Yeah. Yeah it got very heated very quickly. Very packed. So what was your guys' expectation going into this convention?

I was expecting like, okay, obviously more people are going to know us now, not just for individual stuff, but for Trash Taste. If anything, there's probably going to be more people who know us for Trash Taste. Yeah, yeah. But I wasn't expecting it to be like 10 times as much. No. You know, like, I mean, I had some expectations. Obviously, I expected more like to be more recognized and everything like that. Now that I've shown my face more, got an extra channel now where I just talk shit with the boys, you know. Yeah.

But this was definitely an eye-opening weekend for me. Because we've speculated before about what an anime convention is going to be like now since Trash Chaser started. And I think this weekend has definitely cemented that anime conventions will never be the same again for us. And it was like a bittersweet realization. Because I remember we were all... It was a sad day when we all realized this, I think. And it was right after our panel. So we had our first...

Trash Taste panel ever ever and for the most part you know I thought it was good but then there was some really really standout things that is hard to forget about our first Trash Taste experience so if you've been living under a rock there's probably about 30 different perspectives of some dude running up onto the stage and 30 different perspectives of me shitting my pants on stage and

yeah i mean we weren't really like uh we didn't really prepare anything that's kind of on us like we could have prepared something we were just like we're gonna do a q a we'll just yeah just keep it simple like how we've always done it right yeah because we we've always done panels where it's just okay q a easy we don't need to think too much about it you know people would normally chill we don't it's it's it's like it's a q a you know what i mean it's like how how riled up can fans get most of the times but i mean the thing is with the q a it's

It's completely made by how good the questions people ask. And, you know, I think it's just like roll of the dice sometimes that some people just ask questions that were either just like cringy or would ask questions that didn't really...

actually make us talk about anything it was kind of like what's your favorite anime and it's like all right is this okay it was kind of like there was also like a lot of like very loaded questions where it's like everyone knew the answer to it yeah yeah it was awesome it's like why would you ask a question that everyone already knows yeah yeah i mean i'd say like for the most part we had some we had good questions some good ones yeah yeah i think like okay i'm gonna say this now i'm gonna say this now right if you ask connor about his relationship status just just just stop

You're cringe, bro. It is cringe. I'm going to call out because when we see it on comments and on Reddit, Connor's commented on it in the past. Now, as a mate, seeing it in real life on stage, I'm just like, come on, guys. It's cringe. Come on. Please don't. Please don't. Sorry, man. Don't hold me back. I got this. I got you. It's just a question that people always want to know, right? I understand the curiosity.

Yeah, people want to know, right? And I get it. My thing is like, all right,

If one person asks, all right, I'll make some joke and tell you to... Yeah, funny. Haha, I'm dating Chris. And then it was just like, okay, then someone else just asked again afterwards. And then it's like, all right, see, he just asked that. And you didn't get an answer. You're not going to get a fucking... I'm not going to tell you anything. Like, don't ask me this shit. It's like, oh, we didn't get a full answer. What if I ask again? It's like, you know...

whether I did or didn't, or I married with four kids, like I'm going to, I'll talk about it if I want to talk about it. Yeah, exactly. It's frustrating. You know, if someone wants to keep something private, then let them keep their privacy. Yeah. And like, that's not me confirming or denying anything. So shut the fuck up. Like this, this is going to be like psychoanalyze. It's a breakdown word for word. Enhance. Enhance. You know, it's parasocial Andes, dude.

It's just what it is. It sucks, but I know it's a part of how it is. I guess it was just like, we've seen the comments and everything, and I'm sure you get it on your Twitch chat all the time. Oh, yeah. Hearing it in person, as a mate, I'm just like...

I fell for my bro, man. I fell for my bro. Because I would feel uncomfortable. I mean, it's happened so many times now where it's kind of like, all right, I just have the routine of dealing with it. Of like, ha ha. But that's the one thing I'm like... That's another one that I kind of figured out going to this convention, doing the panel. Is that like... Because we've talked about parasocial relationships so many freaking times on the show. And it's like...

You'd think that like after the amount of times we've talked about it, people start to be like, okay, yeah, I get the boys' perspectives on it. But there's also the fact where if you talk about parasocial relationships, it makes it seem like, okay, the person listening isn't a parasocial relationship because they're listening, they're hearing. But then it's like, okay, but it doesn't always like translate well. But also I understand how like on the day, you know, sometimes people get in weird moods

moods and some things happen. I get it. I will say that it was like, like I said, like 99, like I met like a lot of people there and like the people I can respect was just like, look, I know you've, cause you've talked about it plenty of times, you know, I know you more than you know me. I just want to say, I get that. And, um,

And I still like love your stuff. You know, I still respect everything you've done. And that's, that was like just a genuine, okay. I met like a few people like at the bar, the hotel who I just had like a genuine conversation with from like, from like that starting point where, yeah, where, you know, we acknowledge this, but I still want to get to know the person because we're in a environment where I can get to have a more chilled conversation about it. Right.

But then you do just get these, you know, one or two, maybe fans who just don't watch Trash Taste as often as other people, you know? Right, right. Because especially like reading the subreddit and reading how much people have like called this out, I'm just like, that's fucking great. Unfortunately, not every one of our viewers is on the subreddit, for example. You know, not every viewer watches every episode. So you will get that casual viewer who just doesn't know more, like doesn't know about the boundaries as much as like other viewers, I think. Oh,

I mean, to me it was like, this was just all a learning experience. Like this is no way made me not want to go to cons or anything. No, no, no, no, no. Like I, you know, like, like we've said this a million times, but yeah, everyone was super fucking nice. The signings were great. Like everyone was really respectful, except you got shot by him.

Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. I wasn't there to see it, but... So it was because it's like open, right? Yeah, it was open. So we had like a table and there's three of us. I was in the middle, Joey's on the end, and then there's Garnt on this end. And this end is completely open. So anyone could have walked up and like thrown anything at Garnt, which is just an oversight. They should have had someone...

there who is like stopping me. I think it was like, it's a learning experience, not just for us, but for the convention itself, for the convention as well. So like, I remember the conversation where we talked about, we don't know if we need security for future conventions yet. This taught us that we definitely do need security. Like that was like a very much a big eye opener for us. I mean, obviously we had the incident happened where someone came on the stage who I'd

Apparently, okay, so this is a whole fucking thing, right? You said it was a learning experience for the convention. I feel like, I don't know, they should know that it would have been better. And to be fair, they stepped it up, but I feel like it should have been there anyway. We practically had like...

no security, really, for the first two days? Yeah, yeah. I think they definitely should have had security for the panel. But I talked to some people afterwards who were working there, and they said, this has never happened before. This has never even come close to happening. There was never a precedent of this ever happening at MCM. So it was also... It wasn't oversight, but also...

we just like a lot of people just didn't expect it because this just never happened before right um i mean i i yeah i agree and i don't want to go too hard because obviously like we want to go to cons again but like it blows my mind that you would have a main stage event and not have like at least one scary dude in the front just start like you know because it's like like it was anyone could have come up everyone could have come up like you know mcn haven't had like

insanely large guests in the past. Yeah. So I'm thinking like, what do they do? Well, they had like Tom Hiddleston. Yeah. And it's like, there's no way like Tom Hiddleston could do a panel on stage and there wouldn't be a single fucking bodyguard anyway. I don't know. Maybe it's just like a thing of they're like, all right, well, we have some guests this year. None of them are super high profile. I guess we can scale it back, save some money. Yeah. But obviously, you know, and also a lot of these cons, they know YouTubers are big. They know it, but they don't like, they don't,

know it. Yeah. They understand, oh, he has 3 million subs, but they're like, yeah, but we have the guy who voices in like very odd parents here. And I know what that is. Right. I don't know who this trash guy is. Who's these rubbish boys? The rubbish lads. Yeah. Who's these rubbish lads? What are they? Right. So there's this complete, like a lot of cons do have this kind of like disconnect between like, because that a lot of the cons are very,

are ran by people who understand like older media yeah traditional media they don't really understand like youtubers that well they should by now but they don't and so i feel like there's a lot of oversight that happened there and then getting to this guy in particular who came on the stage which was which was a weird thing because this guy didn't do anything for the first 20 minutes yeah and then started shouting he was like everyone thought he was like just a heckler

yeah yeah i thought he was a heck yeah because i was just like you know we've all dealt with hecklers yeah of course uh so you know uh someone asked the question and then we just i just like heard someone shouting something in like the fucking background or something i'm just like oh okay it's just ignore them it's passionate anime fans i've heard it all before you know um and then suddenly i see some guy just walking up to the stage and i'm just like is this happening

Yeah. Is this happening? I heard like a guy just go, no, no, I'm coming on. And I was like, what? And then someone like stood up and I was like, fuck, someone's coming out. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, no worries. Security will deal with it. Yeah.

There'll be someone there. Yeah. I was just like, okay, he'll get, he'll get to the stage. Oh no, he's on the stage. Well, he'll get near the sofa. Oh no, he's near the sofa. Oh, he's sitting next to Joey. And then I remember just like, just waiting. Cause I, I assumed that there would be someone who would have come on and be like, someone's coming from backstage. I was like backstage. No, I was like, no, no one on the side. Um,

Oh, what do we do? And a good like 30, 40 seconds passed where like nothing happened. Like even the crowd was like, uh, like, is this a bit? Like what's happening? Yeah. It was so like out of left field that I talked to some people and originally they thought that it was just a special guest that come on. A special guest. Yeah.

Just, just, just a bit in like the, in like our show or something. And, uh, and we were just like, I think the best way to describe it is just, we were just shell shocked. Uh,

Yeah, I mean, you know, it was definitely traumatizing. That's for sure. Yeah, as I said, it was like unprecedented. Like that's never happened at like any, probably never any of our panels, right? Yeah. I don't know how calm we looked on camera, but I'm pretty sure internally we were freaking the fuck out. Oh, I was shitting myself. Because I was like, this dude like sat right next to me. Like he kind of like shoved me out of the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was sitting like kind of in the middle of the couch like this. Yeah.

And he like shoved me out of the way. And then he like, you know, I mean, everyone who was there saw it, but like, he tried to like grab the mic off my head because he wanted to say something. And I was like, uh, nah, dude, like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, he just like starts rambling off about something. I don't even know what the fuck. Like he wasn't even like being coherent. Yeah. No, but it was just like coming into one ear and out the other. Cause I was just like,

Fucking looking around like, is anyone going to do anything about this? Yeah, yeah. Like, I remember what he was talking about was nothing to do with what the question was asked or what we were talking about before. He was just rambling on about something completely incoherent. And meanwhile, Joey is frantically looking around, trying to find... I felt really bad for you. You were like, anyone? I was like, help? Because I didn't want to like...

you know, be the one to like instigate something, right? Because like, I don't know, the dude might have a knife, you know? The dude might fucking suddenly swing at me, right? So it's like, I don't know what to do. Like, I couldn't like push him off or anything because he was also fucking massive. Yeah, this guy was big. Yeah, he was a big guy. I mean like, you know,

I'm not saying that I would punch it if like a fucking two foot man came on the stage, but like, I'd be a lot more likely to be like, to try and leverage my own position. If they were- If a child comes onto stage, you're like, okay, baby. Just set up for the drop kick. It's just like, you're in the situation, right? Someone comes up and like, you look at him, you're like,

if this guy really wanted to swing for any of us, odds are it's going to fucking like really fucking hurt. And I probably won't be able to punch him. Like he, he was really tall and big. Right. So it's just like, it's, you just sit there and you're like weighing your odds. You're like, what do I need to do? Like, what's the best way to handle this? Like I'm processing, processing, processing. Cause like,

you rarely find yourself in a situation like this where you don't know what the outcome is going to be. So in your head, you're just like, what's the worst outcome this could possibly be? And how could I prepare for it? Cause you, you're kind of in like fight or flight mode at that point, at that point. Yeah. And also it's like, you know, there, there was that like side of me as well. That was like, okay, say for example, like if I fucking tripped him up as he was like trying to flee, uh,

And he like smashes his head in and he's going to fucking Abba heard me and like, try and like sue me for defamation and damages. I was like, I didn't want that either. So I was like, I literally couldn't do anything. And I just had to sit there and be like, just, just pray. I was just like, just hoping I was like, okay, you know, like obviously a lot of people are like, man, you should have just like punched him or something. And it's like, well, it's like,

I don't want to be the one to escalate it. At the end of the day, we're still on stage. Creator Clash was like a month ago. That's not what they paid the money for, man. It's just like you're sitting there and you have to go through it. I'm like, all right, well, what does this guy want? Why is he on stage? Initially, I was just like, okay, maybe he just wants to be funny. I was like, well, this is great because

I'm, I can handle cringe. Like my half of my videos on my channel are like, try not to cringe challenges. And like, I'm fine dealing with a guy trying to be funny on stage. I'll just out, out, wait him and cringe. Like I know that I can sit here and if this guy was trying to be funny, which he wasn't, but if he was, I was like, it's fine. I'll just wait until he feels so unbearably awkward that he'll just leave. And then I'll be like, all right, good.

which is what I think happened eventually. But this guy was completely, you know, he was not in the right state of mind. Like this guy was clearly on. And he was also doing it to a bunch of other panels as well. So he clearly wasn't like a targeted thing. He was just like going around, just wreaking as much havoc as possible. Yeah. What I, what I heard was, I don't know how, okay. This is, this is not 100% confirmed, but this is the story that I was told. Apparently he did this to another stage.

After hours. Oh, after hours. Oh, shit. I thought it was before. No, no, no. So after hours. And then they tried to get him removed, but at the time they didn't. Right. Because for some reason they didn't listen to the person who was trying to get him removed or something. It was like a whole thing. And then, yeah, we were told the next day that, yeah, he was arrested afterwards and I think charged. I don't know what with...

But apparently when they asked him why he did it, yeah. Sentenced. Sentenced the jail for being cringe. Ten days of cringe. I sentence you for being cringe. Honestly. I was like, what are you in for? I was cringe at a con.

I don't know. Maybe like trespassing or some stuff. Either way. I mean, you know, glad that something happened. Yeah. Um, you know, they, they caught him in here when they asked him why he did it. He said something along the lines of, uh, yeah, he apparently just wanted to go up on stage. He like, he didn't really know who we were. Yeah. Yeah. He was just there trying to get on stage to things. Yeah. So it was just unfortunate timing that it was a guy at our panel who just wanted to jump on stage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

It could have been anyone at the end of the day. We're lucky it turned out well. If that guy really wanted to do something, this could be a really different story. I see it as a positive experience because it really...

Do you want to be in my seat and say that? Sure. Okay, okay, okay. Let me say, I see it because I see it as an event like this where something this big happened and nothing bad came out of it. It really put things into perspective for us. Oh, yeah. It made it so, it made it guaranteed that something like this isn't going to happen again because now we are more aware of it. Now we're going to convey this to wherever we go to. So I think, you know,

it's obviously not a good thing that happened and maybe we should have been more prepared for it but it did happen nothing too bad came out of it aside of aside from just a lot of cringe a lot of cringe and just like getting you getting his ass flashed like in front of our face because like his trousers were like half down like it wasn't even like a half crack like he might as well have not been wearing

pants it was like the full ass crack and I was like oh god why why also he stank like he really fucking stank like I was like holy shit that you like you smell you definitely smell like a con girl that's for sure I just fucking hope that guy gets the help he needs because he's clearly fucking unwell yeah yeah yeah yeah

I don't know. It was just fucked. You know, it sucked as well because, you know, halfway through the panel, we have to like, the panel was, it was going okay at that point, I'd say. Yeah. And then we were already kind of like, fuck, dude, we got to do this panel now after that happened. Like pretend like nothing happened. At least if it was like, you know, near the beginning or near the end, then, you know, there'd be like, it'd be a little bit easier to kind of just like clean it up and get over it. But it was like dead set in the

middle of the panel. So it was like the hardest to kind of recuperate and like get back onto the flow of things. Because I remember I tried to like continue the panel and all like the only image that was in my mind was just that bear ass crack. Like that bear ass crack just like hypnotized me to be like, where

For me, it was that. And also just like in the back of my head being like, what if someone else also does this? Yeah. Like what if like another person is just like, well, they didn't fucking do anything. That's my time to get 15 minutes of fame. I was like so fucking scared for that. And it's like, and also it was just like, oh, good. I'm going to see this all over the subreddit and the Twitter feed and like 17 different fucking angles. Yeah. But yeah, it was whatever. I mean, yeah. No, like again, as like the silver lining is that

Now we know, now we're going to be a little more prepared for future cons and future events and stuff like that. Nobody got hurt. Yeah, nobody got hurt. That's the important thing. Exactly. Just a lot of trauma and a lot of cringe. Just a lot of emotional damage. Trauma by cringe, basically. Emotional damage, but no physical damage. So that's good.

But yeah, aside from the panel, how else was your guys' con experience? Yeah, it was good. Yeah, I mean, the signing was freaking awesome. That was a good thing. At least everyone who came to the signing was super nice, super respectful. Lots of really cool artists and stuff like that. I just kind of wish I had enough time to go to the artist alley. Because I feel MCN's artist alley was really freaking good compared to other cons that I've been to. Because like, you know...

naturally when you're at a signing, a lot of people bring up stuff that they bought. Oh yeah. I saw some of the stuff. Some of the stuff I was genuinely like, where the hell did you get that? Yeah. Cause I want to get it. But unfortunately we didn't have enough time to go to the artist alley this year. So that was a little disappointing, but yeah, you know, well, it's kind of hard to walk around in general this year.

Because I feel like the last convention we went to was like AX 2019. And we've said that, you know, we could still walk around the convention, right? Yeah. Like, you know, we'd get stopped every now and again, you know, especially at an event like AX. But it wasn't to the point where it completely stopped your movement and made it so you couldn't walk around. And I felt like that was...

very very different this year yeah like I didn't even bother trying especially after I heard what Connor tried to do oh my god I knew you were gonna fucking tell us we got it we got it it's so funny it's so funny so like after the panel and after our signing was it after the signing it was after the signing

Okay, so after the signing, our day was free. And we had a good two, three hours to enjoy the convention. We were up in the green room, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were up in the green room. Normally at this point, we're just like, great, we've got two, three hours to enjoy the convention. Let's just walk around and stuff like that. But seeing how many people were at our signing and seeing how many people couldn't even make it to our signing because the signing got cut off.

The line was like full capacity like an hour or two even before we even started the signing. I'm like... Yeah, I felt bad to everyone who wanted the signature. Yeah. Sorry. We would have done it if we could have. We would have done it if there was enough time. Yeah, yeah. I think we were signing for like two and a half hours and we just...

And that was like capping the line two hours before the line even opened. But yeah, so I got the feeling that probably not a good idea to walk around, especially without security. And Connor was just like, guys, I got this. I got the perfect disguise. So...

So let me tell you what Connor's disguise was. His disguise was to wear a face mask, like a normal COVID surgical face mask, and some sunglasses. And a hat. This is genius. So first things first, wearing sunglasses inside...

Totally inconspicuous. No one's going to look at you at all. Why would we be wearing sunglasses inside? That's right. Secondly, he forgot that the shirt he was wearing was a Trash Taste shirt. That hasn't been released yet. Yeah, it was a Trash Taste shirt that hasn't been shipped out to the general public yet. So...

Also, it's the Trash Taste shirt that you see him wear in almost every video and every episode. So it's like that shirt has just been synonymous with like, yep, that's Connor's shirt. I wanted to say hi to some of my friends. So I was like, hey, I'll just come quickly and say hi. I wasn't going to stay out long. I was just going to go say hi. And obviously, I knew it wasn't a foolproof disguise.

I wasn't fucking going to film any movie scenes fooling anybody. I was just like, maybe it'll just buy me enough time where people will double glance and then I can just walk away. And how far did you get? Well, no. So I went to meet my friend who I told to come meet me at the gate. So it was like, I literally walked out like two meters and then my friend was. Problem was that at this area that was really convenient for me, people were waiting for Sydney.

Yeah. Signed Sydney stuff. And obviously people like were waiting around there and recognized. So yeah, people just started coming up to you right away, but I was trying to talk to my friends and I was just really fucking annoying because I was just like, hold on a second. I'm just talking to my friend. Give me a moment. And then they were like, just asking for photos. And then the moment I turned around to like go back, there was like, felt like five people this side. And then because my friend left, who I was talking to, people just fill the void. And I was like, oh shit, I'm getting surrounded. Yeah.

so so the people in front of me i just quickly took a picture with them and i was like make this fast please please and then the people behind me i could just feel them be like connor connor and i was like i've got to go i gotta go i'm so sorry i got because i because if i start doing all of them i i won't yeah i won't i won't stop and it sucks it's like i have to go yeah like i'm sorry that i wasn't able to give you a picture that is the most like suffering from success story but it sucks right because it's like it's

people, friends would be like, Oh, come hang out. I'm over here. I'm like, I'm sorry. Like I can't, I can't walk there. Yeah. And they're like, Oh wow. Okay. You're too big. I'm like literally. Yes. Like I, I, I actually can't walk to you. Like this will be a miserable experience. If I walk near, like it's literally not even us trying to like humble brag. It's just like, no, no, no, no. It was just like, this was like the eyeopening weekend for us to be,

To, for us to see like, oh, okay. Now we, we have to consider things that we've never had to consider before. Don't get me wrong. We're greatly appreciative. We're very grateful. We fucking love it. But yeah. I mean like, cause after our signing, I really, really wanted to go to Sydney's panel. Right. Cause her panel wasn't on the main stage. It was on like one of like the side stages that was like in the middle of the convention. It was like, it was kind of like a two or three minute walk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like a two, three minute walk through like this crowd. Hmm.

And I remember asking one of the handlers, like, can I go see Sydney's panel? Because it was our first panel. I'm like, I want to see my girl, man. Where's my girl? Where's my girl? And they were like...

I don't think that's a good idea. You should not be walking through that crowd. Like they, they literally were just like, no, after what has happened on stage, we cannot stop you, but we highly, highly, they're like begging me, please don't go. Cause I could see like the sweat drop on her face. I've been like, oh, I don't like if he says yes, I can't deny him, but I don't want to deal with like the consequence of it. Right. Cause actually like, so on the second day, right.

So on the Sunday, we were hanging out at one of the bars. It was like the Novotel, which is far enough from the convention that it's not too many people there, but close enough that you could walk to and from the convention, right? So I was hanging out there with a few of my mates.

on like the sunday and it was like everyone was still in the convention so it was like pretty dead and so you guys had your signings so i wanted to meet you guys in like the green room or whatever and so once the con ends your guys are signing in so i'm like great let's go meet up and i said okay i'll go to i'll go to the hotel that we were staying at which is on the like which we had to go to the other side of the convention and i remember going out with my mate to see

The optimal path, right? To walk to the hotel that we're going to. And what it felt like, I walk outside and everyone started to go outside to like the big grassy area because the convention's over now. So you just see like this massive crowd. And what it felt like is, you know, like in that fucking zombie movie,

where they're on the roof of the mall and they have to get the food and they see the crowd of zombies that have to walk through. - It's literally like the opening scene to Dead Right. - That's what it felt like 'cause I'm just like, okay, let me plan on my route. What's the most optimal route I can walk without, what's the least possibility I can stop? - Grab the bench. - Let's stop swinging.

It's like, out of the way! How do you get food? I get my baseball bat up. It's just fucking Shaun of the Dead or something. My God, yeah. I mean, you know, like, a lot of things happened this weekend, but I think all in all, it was a positive experience, I'd say. This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phone.

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props to MCM for doing that. We had like four fucking bodyguards with us. It was so, I felt excessive, but I appreciate it. Yeah. Had a really nice guy who would just, you know, was really chill and would speak to me. And then it was really strange going into the toilet and just coming out of the toilet and he's just like waiting for me. And I'm like, okay, this is weird.

but it makes sense it was cool you know I he was he was very professional I I see why you know people don't mind having one because you know I thought it was going to be really overbearing having someone like behind you yeah yeah but he

But he was really nice. He just kind of like stood back and whenever he felt anything was happening, he would just kind of introduce himself. Or not introduce, he would just kind of step up a little bit. Yeah, it was really good. I mean, it was nice. I mean, definitely we learned that we have to get it now for AX. Yeah, or AX and like future conventions that we're going to. Yeah. I mean, like I said, this is like our first convention since...

starting Trash Taste and now we know this is like set the president's precedent. President. That word's really giving you a lot of trouble. It is, it is, it is. Mr. President. Set the standard for us. Yeah, definitely. But I mean, I still had a great time actually. No, it was awesome. Like I said, everyone was super nice. Like getting to see people after so long has been like crazy. Yeah. Just reminding you that

Great people exist. Yeah, man. You know, just like seeing everyone, seeing like the gifts that we've been given. Yeah. So many fucking talented artists and stuff as well. Yeah. Yeah. I think my favorite gift that was given like to all of us actually was there was this like wooden...

there was this wooden trash taste plaque and it was like perfectly crafted. I'm just like, there was such great craftsmanship on it. I'm like, Oh, this is like, this looks amazing. And I remember like gawping at it with Joey and just like, we were just like admiring like the craftsmanship. And then we're like, we turn it around. It just says, link my balls. And we're both just like, he got gone. He got gone.

Someone gave me these cards and I found them in my pocket earlier. It just says, Hamon, Lord of Striking Thunder. Oh yeah, there's the Yu-Gi-Oh cards, right? I don't know if there's Hamon in Yu-Gi-Oh. Yeah, there is, yeah. Why is there Hamon in Yu-Gi-Oh?

I don't know. This one is Raviel, Lord of Phantasms. I didn't really understand why that one was relevant to me. I think Hamon is my one, actually. What? You have Hamon? Yeah. The fuck? Yeah, I was given Hamon. I want Hamon, dude. Someone just gave me a Yu-Gi-Oh card. I don't know. I mean, I just had it in my pocket. I think they gave one for Gant as well, but it must be in the bag of stuff.

Yeah. Wow. That's cool. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. Thank you to everyone who showed up and like gave gifts and, you know, signing and the panel and all that. It was, it was really, really cool. Yeah. Really cool. Are you guys, would you guys think about getting like masks to wear for like future conventions and stuff like that? Uh,

A better disguise? No, that was a solid disguise, dude. No, do you want to talk about the disguise you were thinking of? Okay, okay, okay. You know what? You know what? Like, after seeing what happened on the second day, I called up my mates who was on, like, the floor and, like, I was like, can you buy me a mask? Because I want to see if, like, the mask works. Like a full face mask. Like a full face mask, right? Okay.

And so they buy me a mask. I'm not going to say what it is in case I end up using it for future conventions. Right. They buy me a mask of a character. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah. And so we go to the bar afterwards. They bring me the masks and I try it on in front of Joey. Right.

I'm like, Joey, does this mask work at all? Can you tell it's me? And the first thing Joey says is like, you ain't tricking anyone. No, because it's like the mask just covers the face, right? Because Garnt's hair stands up. It's just Garnt's hair above it. You can tell from...

Like, if you are aware of what Garnt's hair looks like, it's so freaking obvious. I'm like, yep, that's Garnt. Yeah, because, like, I knew that wasn't going to work because, you know, back in AX 2018, 2019, whichever the last one was, Aki and I tried to do the same thing. But, like, we had, like,

We didn't even have like a face mask. We had like a full like full covering the head like balaclava style like mask. Yeah. And we were both wearing that. We're like, yeah, we're going to get away with this. They'll never freaking know. Yeah. And we were walking from the hotel to the convention, which was like a two, three minute walk. And as soon as I got out of the hotel, someone was like, hey, Joey. I was just like, fuck it.

Damn it! My perfect disguise. Immediately gave up. Yeah. So I don't think it's going to work. That's why I was laughing my ass off when Connor was like, they'll never know it's me. I didn't expect it to work. I was like, it'll just buy me enough time. You might as well have just had a sign that says, I am Connor from Trash Test. Just like a sign that says, I am not Connor. I am not Connor. I'll do that. Sure. We'll get a giant fucking, like one of those pizza flipping sign. I'll be like, arrow here. That's like, I am not Connor.

Because I actually did try it on the Sunday and it worked for a bit actually. Really? Because like people would definitely recognize me. Like as I was walking around the convention, people would definitely recognize me. But it wasn't like, it was like the conistrat, or what Connor wanted to do, which was it bought you enough time that they didn't, like you didn't get stopped immediately. But I could see like every like fifth person I walked past, they did like the double take. They did.

They did like the double take. They would walk past and then like something would click and then they just like... Is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was that guy? Yeah, who was that guy? I felt a disturbance in the force for a second there. But like that bought me enough time to be like, okay, they've looked around and I'm already like enough the way down. So it definitely didn't hide my identity, but it made people like...

Not immediately. Like not run up from a distance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think like as long as you don't stop in one place for too long, then it's useful. But the problem with that is that like, you know, if you have that particular mask on, for instance...

then the word is going to spread. So it's like, yeah. So the guy in that mask, yeah, that's gone. Right. And then it just doesn't work anymore. Right. Because it's like, now they're just looking for the guy in that mask. It's a one trick pony. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You got to get like a new mask for like every day or like every fucking convention or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I did see like a couple of like people I knew like YouTubers and stuff who were like going in like cosplay and stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, like that's smart because you're like, you're in a full cosplay type of thing. Exactly. It's not just like covering the head type of thing. So like, but like,

In saying that, am I bothered to get a full-on, full-body cosplayer to walk around? No, I'm not. It's too hot. It is, it's too hot. Speaking of cosplay, though, my god. Genshin has taken over this year. Yeah. Oh my god. Every third cosplayer I saw was a Genshin character. Yeah, yeah. Because normally, I remember the AnimeCon experiences, one or two characters would completely take over. Now it was just the entire cast of Genshin. Yeah, there was a lot of Genshin.

I didn't realize it was that popular. Yeah. Because I remember in like 2018, 2019, I think the big thing, at least for people who came up to my signing, was like Nekopara characters. And I think I saw like two Nekopara characters today. And I was like, oh, okay. Nekopara was that big? Yeah. I mean, there was a lot. I mean, because, you know, it's so easy to cosplay, right? And there's so many variations. So, like, it's very easy for a lot of people to cosplay it. But yeah, like...

Now it's just like Genshin or Demon Slayer or something else. I saw a lot of Demon Slayer. Yeah. I was expecting that. I was expecting Demon Slayer. A lot of Juzo Kaisen as well. That was like the big three though. Because it's not mid. Because it's not mid. Yeah, but like my mates are telling me that like the Genshin line or the line to buy Genshin merch was like by far like the longest line. Yeah.

I don't even know that you're selling Genshin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm just like, well, this is the closest any fucking Genshin fan is going to get to buying actual feel real much. But there was one part of me that was like, oh man, there's like so many like Genshin characters, you know, being cosplaying. And it's like, oh yeah, there's like a new era of like cosplaying in at cons. But the one thing where I was like, oh yeah, this will never change is people coming up to me, making me sign death notes. Like, oh my God.

I was like, that is a piece of con culture that will probably never go away. That will never die. That will never go away. And I'm like, all right. That's familiar. Fuck, I just remembered that happened to me as well. I probably signed like 10 or 20 death notes during this week. And I was like, all right, that's one piece of like con culture. I'm glad we'll never go away. It's like, it's gone to the point where like, I...

I know the notebook now when I get, when I get given it, right? Because, because they, they, they make it like, you always get like the death note and then they make you sign it and then they're like, close the cover and they're like, they're like staring at you, you know? They're like, ha, what do you think? And I'm just like, ha ha, you got me. Ha ha ha.

Yeah, the pages are very noticeable. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I don't know. Like, I don't even have to flip the cover anymore to see what I'm signing. I'm just like, yeah, that's Death Notes. Are you superstitious about it? I know some people don't sign Death Notes because they're like, oh, what if I actually do? What's who? I've met some people who don't sign them. Really? Yeah. Oh. Because like, are you wishing me to die or something? That's fucked up.

No, I don't care. I mean, like, also another thing is like, there's a lot of people that try to get you in like, deez nut strokes nowadays as well. Yeah. That's the new like, death note like trick now. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I had a couple of people being like, oh, can you sign this for my friend? He couldn't be here because he had ligma. And I'm like, this close to being like, oh, I'm sorry for your friend. I had to stop myself being like, I'm sorry. Yeah, I think this guy tried it on all three of us. I think I was first and I just was like, alright.

Nice. It's like Ligma. Okay, wow. I was like, come on, man. Do you really think that's going to fucking work? Come on. Although I must say that the dude who found that restaurant in London, which was called Secondis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was, I was like, I was like, all right, you deserve it. That's like, that's like a decent ass joke that had like had effort put into it. Like I respect that. Yeah. Cause he, he got us like a, these like,

Indian or I think like Indian nuts or something yeah it was like a snack that was made out of nuts so it was like oh I got you some nuts from Secondus and I was like okay that's kind of funny that was really funny it's like I'll take it I'll take it I was like you know what I respect the creativity I'll take that what were some like what were some other gifts that you guys got

Was there anything that stood out? Oh, there was one actually. We got it yesterday. But there was this guy, this artist guy who gave us this like poster and he's like a mecha artist. And he made this like... Maybe it's on screen. Maybe it's on screen. I don't know. But like he made this like trash taste mecha.

Oh my god. Yeah, and it's like full on. I mean, it looked freaking amazing. It was like kind of a cross between a Gundam and an Ava type of thing, but it was like it had like the Trash Taste purple on it and it looked really freaking cool and he was like, yeah, I did it in two days and I was like,

what the hell? I wish I could do that. It was really nice. I really wanted to give it to Alan because I know he's like a massive make ahead. Yeah. Yeah. So I've like held on to it. So I'll give it to, I'll give it to Alan. That's really cool. But yeah, there was just like so many cool, like just, I don't know, really like talented people. Like a girl gave me like a ring and,

that she had like made as well yeah and uh yeah i don't know it's like it's it's you know obviously like you know pieces of fan art and stuff like that is like amazing as well and like we've kept all of it obviously but um yeah i got like a custom pokemon card for mine and cindy's wedding it was

like, oh really? It was like proper metal and everything. I was like, that was pretty fucking cool. That was one of the coolest gifts I've ever seen. I remember there was a guy who came to my signing on the Friday and he made me sign like a holo Yu-Gi-Oh card. And I was like, oh, that's really cool. I haven't seen that in a long time. He came back on the Sunday to give me the card. Oh,

- Oh. - Like in film like this. - What the fuck? - And I was just like, it's like, yeah, I like scoured all over the con to like find it for you. And it like came back on the Sunday. It's like, give it to me. And I was just like, you're the G bro. You're the G. - Give me a limited edition first Charizard please. - Yeah. - You would like one? - Did you get someone, did you get a masterpiece?

No, so yeah, the guy, I was really disappointed. He brought out a copy of Masterpiece. Right. The hentai. Yeah, the hentai. It was like the full doujin colored. Right, right. And I was like, oh my God. And I was like, he said, yeah, sign it for me. And I'm like, can I have it? And he was like, no.

And I was like, I was like, Hey, I got to shoot my shot. It's like, Oh, you got this for me. Yeah. It was like a joke. I was like, I was like joking with him. Like you got this for me. Right. And he was like, no. And I'm like, I think you got it for me.

This poor guy. So we had like, obviously you have like a handler at a con. Basically the handler's job is to just kind of get you to where you need to go and also help with the signings, kind of help with the flow. And he was like this normal British dude who just like, he was talking about football and stuff. And I pretended like I understood what was going on. And I take out this masterpiece to sign it and I just open it up and I'm like, nice, nice. And he's like, whoa.

whoa. And I'm like, oh yeah, this is not normal. This is not a normal thing to open and just admire right now. And so I closed it and I was like, oh, he was like, wow, that was intense, wasn't it? I was like, oh yeah, we're here though, right? We're here though. Freaked. No, I totally just like bought into it because like my handler who was next to

me she was just like oh yeah you've like signed some pretty weird things and i'm like you haven't seen anything yet and then literally as i said that some dude was like oh can i get you to sign something that's like very questionable and i was like all right here we go and he pulls out like a sasuke x naruto like yaoi doji i signed that as well and he was like and he was like and i was like where do you want me to sign like on the cover and stuff like that and he's like no open it up and find the most fucked up page to sign it on and i was like i don't want to

open this in front of my handler being like oh wonder where's the most fucked up scene and then I did find the most fucked up scene and I was like alright I'll go right there and she was just like alright no judging you know what these are your fans I guess you know and I was like yeah because I

I had a similar experience because, okay, we've talked a lot about MCM. I would say like the signing experience was like the smoothest signing experience I've ever had at any convention. Like they had this shit on lockdown. Like it was like in and out, in and out, you know, take your stuff. They gave us like a post note of like what they wanted us to sign, what the, what the person's name was. It was like,

excellent it was so streamlined yeah it was so streamlined I remember the first one the first sus one that I got was it was a manga called like I think like Dick Fight Island or something yeah yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I remember that. It was Dick Fight Island, and I was just like, oh, what's this? And he was like, oh, Sydney recommended it. And I was just like, that sounds like a Sydney recommendation. And he just goes off on like, he just starts going off on like the entire synopsis of Dick Fight Island, which is apparently just...

a bunch of dudes on an island and they fight with their dicks. That's what I'm guessing is it, but he goes into it in like such graphic detail. And so I'm like, yeah, that sounds like a really, really interesting story. I sign it. He goes away and we had like a little five minute breather and my handler goes to me. So what do you do?

It's a long story. I'm like, how do I explain this? You should have just been like, yes, I'm the author of Dick Fight Island. Oh, you know what, actually? I got someone who came out to me who was like, this is a reference, I guess, to anyone who has watched this episode of Trash Taste. He was like, oh, man, I love your work. And then he just gives me a copy of Goblin Slayer.

And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, oh, can you sign it? And I was like, yeah, dude, let's do it. So I signed a goblin sling. Oh my God. Oh God, that was interesting. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of normal things. Everyone's like, bro, everyone thinks that like they're going to hand you the weirdest thing. They're like, oh, I'm going to show you something really out there. And it's like, all right, I've signed like everything. And I love how it's those people who are always like, oh, I'm sorry, you're probably, you've never signed anything this weird. And I was just like, yeah.

I have no idea this is baby mode right now this is baby mode dude like yeah so did anything else notable happen to you at the convention I don't know did anything I mean I got to see a lot of people I haven't seen in years which was nice did you guys get recognized anywhere like at a weird place that like was not in the convention oh I got oh because the hotel they put us in was like literally like the con hotel yeah so like anyone who's going to the con was staying in this hotel yeah

And like, I'm in the elevator. Sorry, lift. Wow, you've changed. I've changed. So I come out of the lift, right? And there's this guy. And he's like, oh, wow, you're Sea Dog, right? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, can I have a picture? I'm like, yeah, sure. Let's do it. So I'm taking a picture with this guy. And he's trying to get his phone ready. And he's giving stuff to his girlfriend or whoever this is. And this girlfriend's like...

who is this guy? And he was like, yo, it's C-Dog. And she's like, all right. And he's like, yeah, I used to watch his videos. That's such a backhanded compliment. Bruh. That's a bruh moment. That's a bruh moment. And he said this to her and looked at me and just smiled like, ready for the picture? And I'm like, what the fuck? Like unravel starts playing. I used to watch his pictures. I was like, what the fuck, dude? Like,

Or are you just like, what happened? I get it. Maybe you get busy and stuff. But you say that later. Why are you going to say it to my face? Did you just get like L plus ratio? Yeah, this guy was like, I used to watch his videos. And he just smiled at me. And I was like, what? Bro, what are you used to? Well, I mean, I guess one notable thing was the panel that we had on Sunday.

How did that go? Because I wasn't there. Yeah, so it was kind of like, so the Saturday panel was kind of like a Q&A type of thing, right? So it was like, there was a microphone in the crowd. People could come up and ask the questions and we'd answer it type of thing. But the Sunday one, it was like, the title of it was a conversation with the anime man, C-Dog V8. So we structured it kind of like, it was me and Connor on the stage and then we kind of had like an MC type of thing.

Who was there to navigate and ask, like, general questions, like, get a flow of conversation going. Right. And because we asked this MC guy, who was a great MC, mind you, but it was very last minute, right? Yeah. And he obviously didn't know who me and Connor were or what we do, right? Like, he only knew, like, a very baseline information. Yeah. So, you know, obviously, a lot of the questions were, like, very general.

But then there was one question. It was like something along the lines of like, yeah, so I was an emceeing for your wife, Sid Snap. And he was like, and he was like, and he was like looking straight at me. And I was like, and I looked at Connor and, you know, we kind of like met eyes and I looked back at the MC. I was like,

Could you repeat that? It was like, yeah, yeah, your fiancé and wife, Sydney or Sid Snap. Yeah, she was telling me all these stories about how, you know, planning for the wedding and all that kind of stuff. And I was like, and, you know, there was a murmur happening in the crowd. And I was like, and I just like slowly pulled my hand out. And I was like, I'm Joey, by the way. It's like, no, no, you're Grant or Garth, right?

And I was like, is this really happening? Is accidental racism happening live on stage right now? And I think people in the crowd were kind of like, yeah, funny bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice execution. Nice landing, guys. And meanwhile, I'm just like...

this motherfucker literally confused me with a guy like what all Asians look the same now is that how it is congratulations on getting married to Sydney by the way thank you thank you hope the wedding goes well you know I've been planning it for a while now you know how it is woo

I think Alan said it best last night. He was like, wow, I can't believe he confused the anime zone with the anime man. Easy mistake. You know, when you put it that way, fair enough. None of you are watching anime, right? Yeah.

I could sympathize with him. You know, he kind of got dragged to do it last minute. And I, and I could tell when like, and he was like trying to double down on it. That was the thing where I was like, no, no, come on. He was like, no, I'm sure it was something, something. I'm like, no, just,

Just move on. And then there was a moment during the panel where people in the crowd started to laugh when he doubled down and it just wouldn't land. And he just put both his hands in his face and he was just like, oh no, I've made a horrible mistake. And I was like, no, don't worry, man. It's fine. It was funny. It was funny and harmless and great story for the podcast. I was like, it's whatever. But other than that... Why are you gaunt? You are gaunt. I am not gaunt. You are gaunt. Ha ha ha!

Why are you gone? Yeah, but that was an interesting... I got some like... I got recognized in some interesting place. One funny thing that happened actually was... So, you know, I got recognized by someone. I took a picture with them. And they were like...

You're not going to believe this. I saw the most convincing Sydney lookalike I've ever seen in my life. Okay. I'm like, oh, okay. Let me see this. What's like, I want to see if there's a, my wife lookalike. Like excited, like gets out his phone, like puts it, puts the picture on, starts swiping like furiously. And he goes, look at that.

Does that not look like Sidney? And it's him standing next to Sidney. And I'm just like, my God, I think that's just Sidney. And he's like, no, no, no. Let me show you another picture. So he shows me a full body shot of Sidney.

And I'm like, no, I think you are just got a picture of a Sydney. I want to know what Sydney looks like in this guy's head. Like the real Sydney, what he looks like in this guy's head. So how did he take a picture of Sydney and like explain it to her? Because what he explained to me was, no, you don't understand. Like I asked her if she was SidSnap and she said no. What?

What? Why? Because Sydney being the troll that she is sometimes, she's like, are you Sydney? She's like, no. So this guy's like, can we take a picture? Just so you know, I just got to get, I just get, I just got it. You look so much like Sydney. I just need to take a picture. So Sydney takes- I'm not convinced by that.

So what he was saying was like, he told me, yeah, she looks like Sydney. Yeah. And she sounded like Sydney, but she told me she wasn't Sydney. So there's a, so this, this British dude thought there was an American Sydney lookalike. I think he thought she must've been cosplaying Sydney.

Like, that's a wig, right? That's what you're wearing. You say, it's your girl? I can't believe Sidney, like, committed to this, like, hard. I remember because, like, I was with a friend and I was like, because we were outside a hotel and I was just like, because he, like, refused to believe me.

that he was like Sidney. So I'm like, can you, like, I turned to my friend, like, can you go get Sidney, please? And he's just like, he was just like, so like shell shock. Like it was like speech a hundred. No, Sidney was just like, Sidney had like convinced him that she just was not Sidney by saying one line that I am not Sid Snap. And then like, so my friend gets Sidney and the first thing she says is, you stupid motherfucker. Jebaited. Jebaited. Jebaited.

I love how all it took for Sydney to get away from that situation was her just saying no. Meanwhile, this guy's in a full fucking like disguise and he can't get away with it at all. Maybe I should have just, you know, been like, no. You should have just been like, are you sea dogs? Like, no. No, I'm not sea dogs. I was like, oh, well, fuck, I guess not. Oh, I love your videos. Who? Who? Who was sea dogs? I don't watch YouTube. I did it again. What the fuck? Well, I mean, to be fair, you weren't sea dogs that weekend. You were sea dogs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

One of my favorite pictures of that entire weekend was just your face of just confusion in front of your picture. It wasn't even like me pulling a face. I was just walking. Yeah, he was literally just walking and I just took a candid shot of Connor just being like... In front of a sign that said, See Dogs VA. Because it just looked like... Your face just looked like you had just gone through... Do you want to explain what's happening?

Okay, so at the signing, right, we had like a dedicated section for our signing. You know, there was a picture of all three of us that said Trash Taste. And then there was individual photos of like the anime man, Gigguk. And then next to that, there was a picture of Connor, but...

But it's... Instead of saying C-Dog-V-A, it said C-Dogs with a Z-V-A. And I remember I was admiring the posters being like, oh, yeah, we look sick in these. And then I did a double take with Connor's like, see what? I don't know.

I don't know a C-Dogs VA. Me neither. And I was just like, Connie, you should change your name to C-Dogs VA. It looks so sick. Who was that? And then we come in the next day and it's just like, like Black Tower Market. And I laughed even harder. It was the most like inconspicuous.

i just kind of felt like i was like i don't care everyone kept coming out to me like wow you must be so offended i'm like why would i give a shit yeah i mean i've had that happen before yeah yeah i was just like i don't really care it's not like it i'm suddenly now like a different person it's not like a file location where if you type in the wrong thing it's like dot c dog dot exe is missing it's like i

I'm still here. At least, you know, the large majority of your name was still there and intact. Like, I've been to a convention where they had a sign up and it said, the anime guy. Yeah. So I'm just like, that's just a completely different person. Yeah.

They must have done that on purpose to fuck with you. No, no, they weren't. They genuinely thought I was the anime guy. And I didn't have the heart to tell them at the time. Another timeline. I was just like, all right, you know what? It's good enough. Fuck it. Yeah, for me, like every convention I go to, it's like a 50-50 chance of whether it be Gigguk or Gig UK.

That is, like, I swear, half the conventions I go to is just gig UK, unfortunately. I guess it's our fault for having confusing news. In London, it should have been gig UK. Yeah, makes sense, right? Yeah. When we go to, like, Australia, it'll be gig AUS, right? Yeah, gig AUS. Or just gig US in, like, US. Gig US in America. But yeah, like, another thing, like, I noticed is just, like,

Every time you hang out with your mates or you're somewhere where you think you're private, it's just like, if someone mentions that, wouldn't this be a funny time for you to get noticed? It is like the worst fucking... It's like summoning the devil, you know? It is going to happen. Because that happened to me. It happened to me indirectly, right? Because... So we were outside a hotel and we were just chilling out there. It was pretty late at night. It was about 1 a.m.,

And we see this guy just stumble over to like the tree and he just starts throwing up. Right. And he, and we were just like, fuck who is, is, is he all right? He's, he's obviously not in the right state of mind. I don't know where his mates are. Um,

So we go over to him and he's obviously had too many drinks that night. And unfortunately, he didn't know where his mates were. Which, if you're watching this, guy, if you're watching this and you happen to be a Trash Taste watcher, get better mates. You don't leave your mates out like that, right? Exactly.

That's quite fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was by the tree. Luckily, some guys, like a father, had found him and was trying to make sure that he was okay. And so we went over and started to help out as well just to make sure that he was kosher and everything, making sure that he was all right, he was going to get home. So we managed to contact his sister.

And keep in mind, it's like 1am, 2am, you know, like he's just out here in the middle of London and she was like, I believe like on the other side of London or something. And we were just like,

can you come pick your brother up? And, you know, being the Giga Chad sister that she was, she's like, yeah, yeah, just tell me where she is. Just let me get there now. I'll come bring him home. So we were with him for like a good, like, you know, half hour to 45 minutes, making sure he was okay, making sure he was warm, you know, make sure he wasn't too passed out and just,

Hopefully being a good Samaritan while waiting for this mythical sister to come. Being a good replacement for the shit mates that you surprisingly have. And so we're with them for half an hour to 45 minutes and then I go into the toilet quickly and then as I come outside...

Apparently, when I was in the toilet, this mythical sister comes, right? And she's just like, oh, thank you so much for taking care of my brother. I'm so sorry. And I don't know what's happened to his mates. I don't know what's happened to him. I'll make sure he gets home okay. And then like the next line, which is the line I heard as I was walking out to, as I was walking out the door to go outside again was, by the way, did you guys see the Trash Chase boys in MCM today? Yeah.

- Oh, look at the sister said this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. The sister said this, right? It was like, my mates told me it was like sitcom level timing. She was like so compassionate and then she was just trying to make conversation. And then she just mentioned, "Did you guys manage to see the trash taste board?" - And then you just like slowly back inside. - And then like the automatic doors open and then everyone looks at me and she just goes, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

You? Wait, you were on the phone with her, right? No, I wasn't on the phone, but I mean, I wasn't on the phone with her. It was someone else on the phone, but they had mentioned that, you know, we had a bunch of guys taking care of her brother. I was like the guy who was just like chatting to him, trying to get, trying to make sure, trying to know what the fuck happened to him tonight and make sure he felt comfortable and all that shit. And he's just like,

You were taking care of him? You? You? And I was just like, are you the sister? Are you the mythical sister? I was just like, yes. And I was like, first I said, thank you so much for being fucking amazing. And she's like, I could tell she was trying to hold in her excitement. And then she pauses for a second. She looks at her brother, dead on the floor. And she's like,

I know this is a bad time, but is it cool if I ask for a picture? No. No.

No. It doesn't even sound real, dude. 100% it happened. And I'm just like, look, you were like such a fucking giga chat for coming all the way out here like 1am. Luckily we had other people to take care of her brother. We take a quick picture, she goes home and everyone's safe. Please tell me the brother was in the shot. Like in the background. It's like that meme picture of the guy leaning towards the grave and doing that. Like,

Except it's like the brawl that's just like dead on the floor. Like...

It doesn't even sound real. It sounds so in between his ass. It does. It was so surreal. It was one of the funniest things that happened to me that weekend. But yes, it's just like sometimes you just have really weird coincidences and weird timings with shit, man. That is like the words you must never utter at a con. Of like, huh, what if? Hilarious, right? And then almost every single time it's like, oh, hey. From a distance, you know? Yeah, right? Fuck's sake.

Where's the canned laugh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's the live audience? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Aside from MCM though, how's your guys' experience being back in the UK now? This is your second time in the UK. I don't know if you had a lot of chance to explore England outside of... No, we've been in... Because the MCM in London is kind of out of the way. So we've kind of been contained there. And the first time I was around, I think in 2017, 2018, whenever it was, I was mostly in Brighton at Garnt's place. So I think I was only in London for maybe like...

A day or so. So I think this will be like my first proper time kind of like getting to check it out. And I've already seen way more of London than I ever did last time. Yeah, it's been nice. It's been chill. I mean, the weather's been fucking fantastic this weekend as well, which is great because like everyone was like, oh, yeah. When I tweeted about like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm landing in London soon. Ha ha, it's going to be sick. And everyone was just like, weather's going to be shit. Shit weather. Expect the shit weather. It's been really good. Yeah, and I landed. I was just like...

brought the red carpet this is shit weather do you guys like literally I remember the first day meeting you it was like you couldn't ask for like better weather it was literally clear skies yeah it was like warm like not too hot like nice and toasty bright you know perfect sunglasses like having a coffee outside type of weather yeah yeah and everyone was like yo shit weather shit weather

I was like, oh man, you guys get it good here. Apparently though, it was just like an absolute fluke. Like everyone was like, damn, it's actually good weather here. Yeah. I think around this time of year, it's okay though. Yeah. This is a pretty good time to come. Because the last time I was in the UK, it was like the biggest heat wave in like 30 years. It's like every year. It's the biggest heat wave every fucking year. We get one week or,

in your case, it was like the one month of just... That was really fucking hot that time. Yeah, like, holy shit, like, the heat wave in the UK just... We are not built for it. And I was just like, where's the AC? Where's the AC? We don't have it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's been good so far. I haven't done anything. Oh, God, dude, I had that really awkward interaction at the hotel that was really like...

levels of awkwardness. Well, so we're in the hotel bar just talking to all our friends. You know, because it's the Sunday, it's after the cons ended. Everyone's just chilling. We're all just hanging out, saying bye to all our friends. And this person was like pretty chill at first. And like they would kind of come up and be like, oh, hi, you know, do you want a drink or anything? And I was like, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. And I got my friend to buy me a drink instead and take their money.

Yeah. And then they were kind of like, just kept kind of, you know, kept saying hi, which is fine. Like it's chill because people do it all the time and it's like, whatever. Probably a couple of drinks deep, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I, if someone's having a drink, a bunch of drinks, enjoying themselves, they want to be like, Oh my God. Yeah. Hi. Hi. You're there. It's like, whatever. I don't mind that. Yeah. But I noticed that like, whenever we would like, if I went outside or like, and if you guys went outside, they would like, kind of like also then happen to go outside and,

at the same time and just listen to whatever you're talking about. And then, you know, I'd go to the toilet and then suddenly, okay, they were in the toilet as well. And I was like, okay, this is like, all right, a little sus, but like nothing happened. So I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool. Let's chill. It's kind of like tailgating a little bit, right? Yeah, it's just kind of like watching, I guess, which is like, obviously it's like not ideal, but it's nothing bad. Like I'm not like, all right, whatever. But then like you guys went to bed and there was only like, maybe like six of us left. We were chilling. Yeah. And, uh,

There was like two couches and there was like an empty space because obviously, you know, you guys go to bed and stuff. And they came over and they were like, hey, do you mind if I like take that seat? It was like 1 a.m. So it's kind of winding down. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I don't really think that's like appropriate because like no one really knows you. You don't even know me. And it's kind of weird and stuff. And they were like, oh, okay. Well, do you mind if I just introduce myself to everyone then? And I was like, fuck.

So I was like, yeah, no, I don't think that's the best. I appreciate it, but no, it makes us a bit uncomfortable. The good intention is there, but clearly didn't quite read the role properly. Yeah, I was trying to be as polite, but no, as possible, right? Because at the end of the day, there's still somebody who...

even though i guess some people would be like no you have the permission to be like fuck off at that point yeah people just people say that i'm like i still don't want to do that like to me it's like they're still a person i don't want to be that guy they shoot at their shot and it didn't work and they should have just given up at that point but then after after i said that again i was like no i don't think that's come on man like no i just kind of like stood there awkwardly just like looking at us and then it was just kind of like all my friends are just looking at me like

And I was like, yeah. Like, yeah, please do something. And I'm like, okay. All right, man. Bye. Yeah. Wouldn't leave. And then one of our friends just goes...

what the fuck did he say? He was like, just please leave us alone. Like he was begging, like in like a pleading way. He was like, please just leave us alone. Please just leave us alone. I think I know who, I think I can guess who that is. It was in such a like desperate way that the person was like, yeah, oh yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. And I was like, just like, oh no.

But that was really funny the way he said that. That was really... Please leave us alone. Please leave us alone. Yeah. I mean, you know, when you hang out at the bar at the convention in the convention hotel, this shit's going to happen. Like, if we really wanted to go somewhere else and, like, avoid this shit, 100%, we could have, right? But, like, we just wanted the convenience. We were all staying in that hotel. It's chill. So, like, when people do shit like that, I know people get, like, really, like, that's fucked up that they did that. I'm like, yeah, it's not ideal. But I'm also, like, you know...

People get excited. They shoot their shot. They didn't do anything they asked. They didn't just sit down because people have done that before. People have just fucking pulled up a chair. On the panel. I'm glad it's like... I'm glad people can now know that we aren't bullshitting. You can...

you have the right anyone has the right to be like hey can i join you and i have the right to say no yeah fuck off like exactly i mean like i'm not gonna get pissed at someone for trying to shoot their shot yeah if you want to whatever yeah is it is it kind of rude and insensitive to do it yeah it is but at the same time but at the same time like respect my privacy yeah yeah if you did it respectfully i'm gonna give you the respect to be like explain it nicely and be like that's not appropriate yeah no

And if you don't get it, then maybe one of my friends won't be so nice, but I'll still be nice. Please just leave us alone. Yeah. I don't know. It's, you know, I, and I, we, I don't know. I just say these stories cause it's like, it's on my mind. I want to talk about it, but I know it's going to happen again. It's not gonna be the last time. Uh, yeah. If you ever see me around and you ask to sit next to me, I'm probably going to say no 99. No, no fucking. I am going to say no. Uh,

99%. I'm going to say no, probably, because I don't know you and it's weird. It's not organic. I think in a convention setting, it's hard to draw a comfortable line. Whereas maybe if you meet someone at a bar and you're not with a massive group of

friends or whatever it's different it's different it's different yeah definitely it's very it's very different it's like it's you kind of do have to like read the room sometimes which i know some people aren't as in tune with that as other people but you know you try not to hold things against people unless they like seriously do cross like a social boundary yeah you know um in which case maybe i should listen to fucking dietist more and just be like sorry man yeah man

Did you use the man technique? I don't know. I think I just waffled on for 10 minutes just being like, no, no. Here's another reason why no. Here's another reason why no. If you would have just said sorry, man, then they would be like, all right, man, I respect this. That's what we should have said to that guy who came on stage. Fuck. He was right all along. I should have just turned and been like, sorry, man.

sorry man this just ain't the place nah man there was this one dude that i like i just didn't like know what his deal was i was like we were at the bar with john and john was talking to me and i was like john man yeah it sucks dude like you know i was like yeah it kind of sucks i did it i literally just did it like you told but we've said john like a million times right there's so many other jobs okay literally such a

name i was in my own head i'm sorry yeah okay that's my bad i suck dude oh yeah i was telling super eyepatch for if i was like yeah man it sucks dude like uh you know i don't feel like i can't really like experience a con the way i used to and then while while i'm telling this story to john this guy who must have been like 40 or 50 just shouts full-on from across the bar he's like hey connor connor you want a drink you want a drink and i'm like no i'm good man

And John was like, you know that guy? I'm like, not a fucking clue. It's just like so weird. - I get it because that happens to me a few times. - He was nice enough. He just asked me and I was like, no. And that was it. That was it. - Because like they shout your name in such familiarity that even I have to double take to be like, do I know this guy? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean?

Like, a few times when I hang out with mates, like, I'll hear, like, gone, hey, gone, gone! And I'm just like, oh, it's, uh, I...

Wait, I don't, I've never met this man in my life. It's like friend of a friend. No. Don't offer me a drink. I'm privileged as you all say. So don't fuck it. I don't need it. I'm kidding. He can buy his own drink. I'll buy my own one. I promise. I appreciate it though. You know, it's nice. You know, I had one time I was in London last time. I never told this. It was like someone in like a Mexican restaurant.

It was like the thing in the movie. It was like the person over there wants to buy you a drink. Right. The way they came over, I was like, this is fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have it. You bought me like the strongest drink on the fucking menu. And I was like, it's like trying to spite you. So then I realized I was like, yeah, I'm not doing this again. I'm not letting them choose the drink. The weirder one for me is like the ones where it's like just in passing, but you're also like not,

too sure either because of the lack of information. Like, it's the ones where you're like, where you're in the hotel lobby and you're trying to get to the toilet or something and then a person is walking past you and you just very briefly have eye contact and they just go, like...

And then they walk off and I'm just like, do I know? Do I know you? Like, this is like some like number 23 shit. It's just like, wake up. Wake up. That does happen a lot. It does happen a lot. And I'm just like, and it's not until I turn around and sometimes they'll turn around and be like, you know, like, Hey, love you stuff. Or like, you know, I was like, hope you're having a good night and stuff like that. You know, maybe they're just being friendly. I don't know. But it's like, it's just the silent. Not like what is this code for something? Like, yeah. Yeah.

But no, it's cool though. Sorry. It's cool. Like that's the one thing I guess as well that I've just been like kind of getting back used to again because it's like, you know, because I personally have been stuck in Japan for the past three years now and it's like stranger friendliness is not as big of a thing as it is saying like the UK, right? Yeah, yeah. Especially in a con setting. So it's like I'm just getting used to just random people just being like, hey. Yeah, we've gone through like, I feel like it has been like,

just us readjusting and reacclimating to con culture. Cause it's been like such a, we've gone from like zero to like 200%, you know? And like, in like the span, in like the span of a day. And it just like, I'd forgotten one, how intense it was before, like before,

COVID and everything. And now it's like even more intense because one, COVID's happened. Everyone's even more excited and enthusiastic. And also we are way more recognizable. So it's just kind of like all culminated into this massive stirring pot. I know like for me, it was...

I know like I caught myself being like oh man it's been such a long time since I've been to a con because there's so many times during the signing where like you know because you're meeting so many people right you start to get into like a pattern of things to say yeah right it's like it's like you start off with the hello like how's your con experience been how's your day been whatever and then there's so many times where like people will be like I hope you enjoy your time in the UK and I'll be like yeah you too and

As if they're not from here Well there was a lot of people actually who were like not from the UK Yeah but it's like clearly Every time I said you two to that question It was always the most like British sounding person ever It's like yeah as if they don't fucking live here It's like ah damn it I think I said that a few times not to that but like Oh thanks a lot for your content and I go you too

So how did you know? I had a, okay, it's not a con experience. We got a cab back, me, Jerry, and a few other friends. And it was like,

It was like 41 pounds, this cab ride. So it was like 30 minutes. It was a long time. And I went to go pay. I gave the guy, because I only had like 10, so I gave the guy 50, right? And so in my head, right, I'm like, okay, it's been like three years or like since I've been like tipping normally. And I know that sometimes you tip cab drivers in London and stuff. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah. I forgot about this because I never took cabs when I lived here before. Obviously, it was late and we were in like the middle of nowhere. So...

I pay this guy and then he's like, oh yeah, I'll give you the change. Just get out the car and I'll give you the change. So I get out the car and I'm kind of just tired. It's like 3am. I'm like, bro, I just want to go to bed. And so the guy, I was like, all right, so can I have my change? Because the way I tip, I don't know if you do this. I want all my change first. Then I will be like, here's your tip, right? And so I was like, oh, can I have my change? And he was like,

What? Like he looked at me like, like he, like he, I,

I asked for change. And then he just looked at me like he wanted me to take it back. Like he wanted me to pretend like I was like, I was like, bro, what the fuck? Like I was going to tip him. And then he's now he's being weird about it. And now I want to tip him less. Cause I'm like, I'm like, just give me my fucking, I'm like nine pounds is a lot, right? This is not America. We don't tip 20%. Yeah. Like I,

I was going to give him like a fiver. That was my plan. And then I was like, you're being weird about this, man. Just give me my fucking money back and I'll give you some back. Like, I was like, what the fuck, dude? And so that's not cool. And so I like, I'm like, all right. Yeah. I was like, can I, my change? And then he like looks at me again for, I want to say it was the most awkward five to 10 seconds of my life. Right. Felt like Zawardo and Jojo. I could feel the one second, two second. And I feel, I feel like he was trying to figure out if I was drunk, like,

I was fine, but I felt like he was trying to see if... He was like, can I get away with this? And so he goes into his car. He rummages around and he comes out and he just gives me five pounds. And I'm like...

Like, all right. Okay. Fine. Fine. He's probably thinking like, maybe if I just give him some money, I was going to give you the five pound notes. Now you've got four pound because you're being a dick. Yeah. Just give me my money back and I'll tip you. I was like, what the fuck?

And I was just like, what a weird experience. Meanwhile, the people in the cab were just like vibing. They're like, no, I'm like having like this mind battle with this cab driver. They'd like just tip him. I was like, give him money. And he was making it weird. I was like, this, why are people like this? Everyone was in, everyone else was in the car, just like kind of chatting. And I'm just like, yeah, on the fucking backseat, not knowing that this is happening. I was just like, bro. Okay. And so he got his four pound tip jokes on you. You'd have got a five pound tip. You just give me all my change, dude.

Yeah. This is a weird experience you don't get in Japan. Like, they just give you eight back immediately and you never have to deal with this. And it was just so weird just seeing the guy just not want to give me my fucking change. And I was just like... It's like Mino speaking English. Fuck.

It's just like, yeah, talking about like transport in London, I guess. Like, I guess like there has been like a talk of the town since we got here. Because everyone like that I've hung out with can't stop talking about this fucking Elizabeth line. That's just fucking opened up. Yeah, I like heard about it. And it's like some like fancy new line that's like recently opened up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently it's this line that's been planned for...

for like that was meant to open, I believe in like, oh, many years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like 2020, I believe nothing that's open. Nothing in the UK ever gets done on time. Yeah. And then it got, it got delayed. It got delayed. But like the hype was real. I thought like I come into London, come into a convention, people would be like, Oh, have you started watching spikes family? You're watching any new anime? No. Everyone's like, yo, you've been on the Elizabeth line.

Have you been on the Elizabeth line? I haven't. I haven't yet. I haven't. And I swear to God, someone could just have given birth the day before. I'd be like, baby, nah. Bruh, Elizabeth line? That's the real hype, man. I gotta try out the Elizabeth line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But from what I heard, it's just like, it's an air-conditioned line. And I'm just like, isn't that just every train in Japan? Wow.

And he did seats. And he did seats. I did notice that, actually. It's like the series of questions we got were very different to how the list of questions I would normally get at a signing, right? Because, like, before Trash Face, it was always like, what do you think about this anime? What do you think about this manga? And there was, like, definitely, like, you know, some amounts of those. But I think...

The top three questions I received during that entire weekend was, number one was, have you had a Tesco meal deal yet? Number two was, have you been to Greg's yet? And number three was, have you been to Spoon's yet? Nothing to do with anime. It was all just like, have you had these things? Have you had any of them?

Well, yeah, you took me to a Spoon's last time I was here, but apparently you took me to the worst Spoon's. It was the worst Spoon's. But no, I still haven't had a Tesco meal. I really want a Greg's. I haven't had a Greg's yet at all. We're here for a little longer. I've forgotten how passionate people are about Greg's. It's very good. Greg's is the bakery? Yeah, it's the bakery. So much more than that, though. Yeah, it is. It's an experience. So much more than that.

Just a baker. Yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like you have to go there at least once to get your British passport. You know, that's the last test. Right. Because it's really weird because I didn't realize how unknown Greggs was to people outside of England, right? Because, you know, a lot of British people, we speak about Nando's, we speak about spoons, but, like, not a lot of people speak about Greggs abroad. And it's just one of these British things that if you're in England, you...

you would have been to a Greg's at least once in your life. You might not always talk about it, but it's part of being British. And I didn't realize this until I came back to England and, and you know, everyone started asking me if I'd gone to like, if I'd gone back to Greg's yet. It's important. Greg's is an important thing. I feel, yeah. From, from what I heard from people, like I feel being British person and not going to Greg's is like being a Japanese person and not going to family mart.

It's like that level of like, how have you not? To me, like, he's even more than Family Mart because you can find Family Mart all over Asia. It's like all over Asia. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Yeah. There's like family marts in Thailand, actually. I didn't know that either. This is news to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it's, it's not like a specific, it's, it's obviously very Japanese with like, I'm going to assume it started in Japan, but it's like expanded. But like, I, I believe Greg's is only available in the UK. Right. And it's, it's nothing. So it's like a real like British pride. Yeah. So it's cheap. It's tastes amazing. Uh,

Yeah, what's not to like? Best sausage rolls, man. Why haven't you guys taken me there yet? I want to go. I actually haven't seen any. It's like the hype is so real in my head. I'm like, not only have you guys hyped it up, but every second British person I've met this weekend is like, Greg's though, bro. Let me see where the nearest Greg's is. Yeah, real shit. Get your boy some Greg's. And then there were people being like, yo, so have you been at Tesco's yet? Have you had the Tesco meal deal? And I was like, not yet. And

I knew like it was like real shit because like people were like, all right, here's my recommendation. These are the ones to avoid. These are the ones that you should go for. And I, I didn't realize there were so many different meal deals and like there were people like in the signing, right? There would be like a person in front of me being like, all right, so here's the meal deal I recommend. And I knew it was a real shit when like the person behind them would like interject and be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't, don't, don't, don't give misinformation. Don't spread misinformation like that. This is the real shit. And I was just like, guys, chill out. There's a Greg's 10 minutes away from him. Fuck yeah, let's go. After this episode, let's go. Let's go.

But yeah, I mean, like, I mean, like we talk about Tesco meal deals, but a meal deal is like a lot of choice. So you need to like have the optimal order. Right. Yeah. I mean, there's just like, there's like, it's like blackjack. There's the perfect way to play it. You know, that's what a meal deal is. Right. So you need to, you need to learn how to count cards, AKA pick the right meal deal. Cause you know, there's certain items in the meal deal that you can get where if you were to buy them individually, it would cost like two pound 50. Right.

So you can kind of min-max the price options. Right. So don't be buying water. Don't get like, you know, a fucking little fruit thing. Maximize your cost performance. Yeah. You don't want to go for Walker's Crisps. No. McCoy's Crisps. The big boys as well. Or Walker's Max. Walker's Max. You can't just go like the little fucking basic ass vanilla Walker's Max. You can get like an innocent smoothie as well. They're only like £2.30. You're literally just like every person

at the signing it's important it's important i knew it was real shit as well because there was like a bunch of people also like when they mentioned the tesco meal deal they were like they came up to me and they were like yeah you know tesco meal deals are amazing but they upped it by 50p and it's an absolute fucking travesty and i'm just like i wish i could feel your anger right now because it seems very real like there's one like one minute walk not even one minute like it's literally opposite our hotel

Oh, fuck yeah. There was this article in the UK that some doctor was calling for meal deals to be banned because they're too unhealthy. Really? And they're too appealing. Yeah. Because they're too unhealthy.

Because people just buy these every day for lunch because it's such good value for money. And they taste fucking amazing. But they're really bad for you. Because the sandwiches are absolutely stuffed with awful stuff. But it's like a McDonald's burger. You don't want to know what goes in. But it tastes amazing. Why does it taste so damn good? Sandwiches are exactly the same as well. You know the sandwiches are not fresh at all. But they still taste good. They taste really fucking good.

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like talking, going back to like why people are recommending you what to order. It's kind of like going to like, you know, a Chinese restaurant here and ordering like Kung Pao chicken or something. And it's like, I've had Chinese food. And everyone would be like, no, you have not had Chinese food. You know what I mean? It's like you're on a Panda Express. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I love Chinese food. Yeah. No, like I'm not even the meal deal guy, but if you go, if you're going to try one out, Joey, at least try like the optimal meal deal. Yeah.

And then we can argue about it. And then we can argue about it, you know? Some of the sandwiches come with an additional slice. Just for free. Just out of the generosity. That's not like a secret menu or anything? No, no, no. You don't have to say a code word? Normally it's like two slices, but for some reason they have one sandwich and a half in it. And no one knows why.

It's one of the great mysteries of the world. It's like they're just trying to figure it out if you've truly optimized it. If you're a real player, you'll know. This is the strat. That's how you've gone through everything in the menu, so you know the good shit. I haven't had a pot noodle yet.

Fuck, I want to have a Bombay bad boy. Is that like the cup noodle? Yeah, but it's so... Dude, the spicy one is so good. It's so, so good. Well, I want to experience this shit. All right, all right. I guess this time was... I'm just scared that you might not like the stuff. And I'll be like, this is literally my entire existence is waiting on this. Like, if you don't like this, I'm going to die.

I mean, look, there's a lot of food that is considered awful that I absolutely enjoy. So, I mean, how bad? Famous last words. How bad could it be? You got to be honest, Joey. You got to be honest, you know. We wouldn't be the Trash Taste podcast if we weren't honest. I keep forgetting how shit mayo is as well. Huh?

I keep forgetting how bad mayo is. Yeah, I've gone back to not eating mayo. I had one sandwich. Because Japan has conditioned me to be like, mayo tastes good. I was wrong my entire life. I come back to it and have one sandwich and I'm just like, I don't like it. I don't like mayo again. Yeah. I always forget. I just assume everywhere has Kewpie mayonnaise. I'm just like, oh no, that was like a delicacy. Should have brought your own. That's like some real shit. Yeah, yeah. I've kind of like come to this realization because I did like...

It's a small tangent, but before the boys came here, I did go on like a quick trip to like Belgium. And I ate...

A lot of bread. Oh, oh, oh. I ate a lot of- I'm awake now. Basically every fucking meal, I'd order the meal and I'd get a loaf of bread. Of course. And it wasn't like the same- A loaf? Like a little bun? No, no, no. I'm not talking about that. It was like- A loaf? They basically gave me half a loaf. Oh, wow. I swear to God, every fucking meal. Like even if it wasn't a meal, even if I ordered a drink with like some quick snacks in it, they just give you bread by default. Dude, Belgium knows what's up, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So-

I think I like bread. That's character development right there. I want to do a proper like bread tasting stream or something. I actually try proper bread. Cause like, I kind of realized that maybe my entire life, I didn't have shit taste. Maybe my entire life. I just grew up in a place that just has shit food. Yes.

You can get good bread in the UK. You just didn't seek it out. You just need to like seek it out where it's just like, it's, you know, you'd have to go to like specialty places. It's so good though. Which is like, which is like true for a lot of like cuisine in the UK, which is like, you kind of get good stuff here. You just have to seek it out. So what's your favorite bread now?

Like your favorite kind. I don't know. I don't know. I just tried a lot of bread and they all tasted amazing. I need to get more informed on bread, man. I'm just like, I just got given bread. I'm like, my man's finally getting that bread. I love when they give you bread and they give you like little fucking olive oil kind of dip thing.

Yeah, like the balsamic. And you're like, oh, don't mind if I do. I love bread so much. Every time I go to an Italian restaurant in the States, and they give you that bread with the olive oil and the balsamic, I'm like, fuck the pasta. Just give me more of this shit. It's so good. I think spending money in England is way too easy.

bro just tapping that card yeah it's like monopoly money so like i know the u.s has contactless japan has contactless but like in the form of suica no no one you can't use it at like restaurants and stuff right it's for like other places yeah it is getting better though too yeah because like a lot of i did notice that a lot of places because like in australia as well now it's like everything is just like

yeah yeah i mean like in the uk now it just seems to be that like the default is now that tapping the credit card yeah and it's way too easy to spend a lot of money yeah yeah something pops up you're like i don't even know how much it is fucking tap and then you're like i'm broke now shit because like i remember like the the first time like they bring that out right they just kind of like hand it to you to like tap i was because i'm so used to doing it in japan right so i pulled my phone out to like get my suica ready right and i was just like

Nope, that's not it. It's credit card. It's credit card. You could do it with your phone though if you had the right thing. Yeah, right? Because I'm so used to like... Even in Japan when you do like the whole tapping thing, not only can you see how much money you've spent, but it's also like there's a little bit of a process, right? To kind of get it going. But in the UK, it's literally just...

and you're done yeah yeah because because a lot of the times uh because with contactless here they like it's they have like a specific device for contactless or they'll they'll like show you the side with the contactless on yeah uh and it's not decided with the price on so you don't even know how much exactly exactly i've realized after coming back this time they've increased the limit again yeah so when it when first contactless started coming out i believe the limit was like 20 when it went

I was at 20. Oh, shit. And then it got really increased to 30. And then I believe 40. And I was like 80. We just fucking doubled the amount. Jesus Christ. With a single tap of your card, you can spend a hundred bucks. You know? That's so scary. Like, I realized how dangerous this was. Yeah. Because we're at the convention. Yeah.

I was like buying a round of drinks and I didn't like I normally in Japan they at least they tell you the price right they tell you the price of how much you're spending and here they don't even tell you the price they just assume you know the price and they give you the contact link and you beep it and so I bring back the drinks and I remember one of my friends asked me oh are the drinks expensive here and I would just go

Yeah, I didn't know. Maybe. I feel like yes is the answer, but I don't know. Yeah. And they were like, I say, I think it's probably expensive. And they were like, no, no. Is it London expensive or is it London hotel expensive? And I was just like,

Yes. Both. Either one of those two. I probably have to ask how much drinks are, but right now I literally have no idea. I just tapped my wallet away. I literally don't know how much I've spent while I've been here. Because, again, they don't tell you.

It's so easy. It's literally just like throwing Monopoly money out. True, true. Being like, yeah, cool. Okay, that was easy. Sweet. And then it's only when you get back to the hotel and you're like, oh, fuck. I wish it was Monopoly money because at least with Monopoly money, you kind of like know how much you're spending. You're like, you know. I keep track of my Monopoly money. I spend it very carefully. Yeah. I remember like, um,

Because we went to, we had a night and we ended up just like quickly, just like as a group of mates in the casino. Right. And so we didn't, you know, we didn't play that much, but you know, I played a little bit and I ended up with some, some like physical money on me at the end of the night. Right. And I remember like cashing out, getting this physical money in my wallet. And I was just like, this is useless. Right.

when am I ever going to spend this? When am I ever going to spend this physical money that they've given me? And because you don't ever need to spend like cash at all. Yeah. I noticed that. Yeah. So now it's just like a paperweight in my fucking wallet.

Suffering from success. It's not even, it's like, this is just suffering from convenience. It is suffering from convenience that we've gotten to now. Oh my God. Yeah. But yeah, I guess that's been our return to the UK. Yeah. It's been great. It's been great so far. It's been absolutely amazing. Thank you for carrying this episode. I've been like dead.

dead for some reason i think jet lag still kicking my ass yeah it is a bit it's also really warm in this studio yeah it's so hot i feel like i'm in a sauna yeah it's like lecture warm yeah at least in like japan we have an air conditioner yeah yeah yeah in the use case i was like in my head i was like can we turn the aircon on and i was looking around briefly i was like where where is it where is it help

But hey, look at all these patrons. Look at all these lovely patrons. I forgot that we needed to shout them out. Bro, it doesn't even feel like Trash Taste. No, no. It feels weird. Honestly, I was so excited to have the boys come over because we haven't recorded the Trash Taste in, I feel... Like a month? Three weeks, I think. Yeah, almost a month, I think. Not only that, but normally at least I'm in Japan or...

or something. But, you know, I had come to the UK early to finalize my wedding stuff. So I was just like here and I was just like not talking to the boys, not recording trash taste. And I was just like, when I saw them come to England, it was just, I don't know. It just felt, it just felt nice. It feels, it feels nice to have the boys back, man.

Hell yeah. Labs reunited. It's good to be back. I like it. Hell yeah. But hopefully you enjoyed this episode. Hey, if you want to support the show, then go to our Patreon, patreon.com slash Trash Taste. Also follow us on Twitter. Send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our face, listen to us on Spotify. And we're going to be here for next couple of episodes. Maybe two more episodes. Yeah, about two more episodes. And then we're going to be in a completely different location. Who knows what will be next? But yeah, hopefully you guys enjoyed. And we'll see you in the next one, all right? Bye.

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