Roasting our Terrible Taste in Games | Trash Taste #45
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- Gamers, welcome to this very special episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Gamer, and with me is Gamers and Gamers.

- How you doing gamers? - Wasn't that funny? I mean, seriously, Garnt says gamer, man loses it. - That's just the most forceful gamers I've ever, I was like, oh shit. As a gamer, I was not prepared for that. - As a gamer, you're not prepared. - So we all play video games. - Yes. - Right? So I thought today that we could talk about

our tastes in gaming. 'Cause I think we spoke about what we like to play and all that, but we haven't actually sat down and reviewed each other's gaming tastes. - Probably talked about it. - No. - Or at least tell each other our gaming tastes. - Yeah, so we've had like the anime episode where we've probably broken down our anime tastes, even though we've talked about anime before. And we're gonna be doing something similar today. So we have made three three by threes for our games. Unfortunately, we don't have a My Gaming list.

which probably would have made it- - Why is that not a thing? - I don't know. - That should be a thing. - Oh, I'm sure there's like an equivalent of it. - I'm sure there's a thing of that, but it's just not, I don't know. It's just not as prevalent in the gaming community, I feel. - I guess it's because it takes longer to finish a game than to finish an anime. - Yeah, and I'm gonna be honest, it made this a lot harder 'cause I couldn't remember

- Like most of the games I played. - Can't literally, can't remember. - Gant's not a gamer. - This is proven. - Like I'm not looking forward to this episode 'cause I'm probably gonna have the most boring gaming taste out of everyone. - Gant's list is gonna be like the top selling games of all time. That's it. - Wii Sports nine times. - Tetris Wii Sports. - Like for me, like we were making our three by threes at the same time and these two finished within 10 minutes. And after about half an hour, I made six and I'm just like,

are there nine games I really care about? I don't fucking know. - Have I even finished nine games? - Is there nine games I care about? What are you, a person in retirement home? - There's more than nine games. - No, I have games that I played that I enjoyed, but like games that like really meant something to me or games like I think back and have like a positive memory of. - You just think, yeah, I hated it.

- Every game I played. - The 50th time this has happened now where I didn't enjoy it. - There were just so many games where I'm just like, "Yeah, that was a game I played." - "Mother, father, please stop giving me shitty games. I don't wanna play any shitty games." - I enjoyed my time with it, I don't know. - I'm excited for this one 'cause I feel that with anime, you guys are definitely the resident experts, right? I feel like gaming, this is like,

- The reverse, the rules have been reversed. - I mean, look, if there's anything we know about the gaming communities that they love to shit on other people's opinions. It's like, I feel like regardless of what we put on here, there's gonna be at least one person being like amateur fucking normies right here. - Oh, definitely, definitely. - I mean, it depends.

- I mean, I'm fully prepared for it. I fully realize I'm a normie when it comes to games. So I'm okay with that to be honest. - You think you're a normie? I think I am the most normie gamer of all time. Considering the list of games that I've actually completed is like, I can probably count on my hands. - Wait, why? Why do you not complete games? - I find it super, super hard to complete games.

- It needs to be like a really good game. - No, no, that's the thing. That's the thing. Most of the, like, because I tried to find the criteria of like what I would put on my list, right? And for anime, it was anime that I have at least rewatched once. For gaming, I was just like,

- If I complete that, if I complete the game, then that's like a fucking S tier game in my eyes. Because if I get to the end of the game, it must be a truly special game. - Imagine if people did this for like movies. They're like, it's a good movie if I get to the end. - Yeah, 10 out of 10. - Normally I log on. - It's like reading an IGN review being like, I finished it, nine out of 10. - No, no, 'cause like for me, for me, like the most,

most games I get to that 70% mark of completion, right? And at the 70% mark, it's like you've discovered most of the things the game can do for you. And like you've unlocked most of the abilities. - I don't know, there's some games where it's like they literally don't end until they end. - Like which games? Any on your list or just any? - Some of my games?

You're talking about like online games? Well, if you're doing story games, you know, obviously you can't just quit 70% of the way and be like, I've seen the story. I mean, you'd be surprised. I'd be surprised. That's not a story, that's a fucking dictionary of unusual knowledge. And that's why I think for me, story's a massive thing, because if it doesn't have a good story, I ain't finishing the game. If it doesn't have a good gameplay, I ain't even starting the game. And I'm like, I've realized I'm such a fucking

- I'm a picky gamer. If there is just one aspect of a game that just doesn't mesh with me immediately, then I just end up not playing it. - Is there anything that annoys me more than a picky eater? It's a picky gamer. Finish your game. - Especially now when I just don't have time to play games. If I'm playing a game, I play like, I think I play one or two games a year.

- Right. - New games. Like it's hard not to just go back to my comfort food and play games I've played before. - I have such a bad habit on that where if there's ever like a new game that just comes out, it doesn't matter if I just started a new game three days prior, I'd just be like,

I don't wanna play with you anymore. And then I just play that new, like, so just three days ago as I was recording this, the new "Monster Hunter" game came out. And I was like, well, I was gonna play that anyway, so it's fine. But I was really busy up until these last three days. So I only just picked it up yesterday. But before that, like right before "Monster Hunter" came out, I had got the new "Super Mario" game as well.

So I had played that new Super Mario game for like literally four days. And then I was like, "Monster Hunter's out, all right, see ya." I just immediately started a new game. - I mean, if it's like a really, you know, highly anticipated game that you're waiting for, I mean, I get it. - Oh no, but I'm like that with anything, right? Like if there's like a new game on like Steam, that's like, "Oh, it's 20% off, I guess I'll give it a go." Like, I feel like I'm one of those, like, if we're comparing it to like people who eat food, right? I'm definitely one of those people who just takes little bits off of the buffet

but doesn't actually finish what's on their plate before they go onto it. Whereas there are some people who are like, no, I'm getting one thing and I'm not gonna move on to the next meal until I finished it. - Okay, so you know when it was like Christmas or your birthday and you ever asked for more than one video game, did you ever do that? - No. - You never asked for more than one video game? - No. - I did, but it was like a Hail Mary. I'm just like,

- Maybe this is the year that all happened. Maybe Santa really loves me this year. - And then if you get like two or three games in one, you know, birthday or Christmas, it's like, how do you, whoa, whoa, whoa, who do I begin with? How do I split this time evenly? - That sounds like a fun game.

- That is the most stressful problem. - I think my seven year old life peaked when I got an entire game console for Christmas. I got an N64 and that was like, man, my career's peaked. Life is never gonna peak after this. What am I even living for, man? - Yeah, I was like that when I got the Game Boy Advance when I was like five. I was like,

there's so much power in my hands. Every other thing I've ever done out the window. - 'Cause like one of the big problems I had when making my three by three was that there were games that I knew I loved as a kid, but then I don't remember fuck about them. - Well, there's some way if you asked me to play them now, I'm sure I could be like, I don't remember exactly what happened. All I know is that I put way too many hours into this.

So yeah, I mean, should we just get into that? Then we can talk about other gaming stuff after. - Yeah, sure, sure, sure. - Should we get trash-cone? I think our names are still on the box. - All right. - I'll bet, I'll bet.

- Let's figure it out. - Okay. - They are. - Let's find out who's gonna be roasted first. - Do you wanna go first? - Oh, okay. I can see the name. - Okay. - Let me not look. - Would you like to go first? - Yeah, I can see literally my name. - And the first one is? - Oh, it's gone. - It's gone. - Oh, it's me. - Perfect, I guess we may be. - Okay. Starting things off easy, I see. - I can't wait, this is gonna be fun. - Is there anything you boys expect on this gaming list? - I have a film that League is gonna be on there. - I have a few.

- As far as anything else goes, League I expect to be on there. - Right.

- I don't know what other games you've played. You never talk about video games. - I don't talk about video games often, do I? - You're like hentai, anime. - Hentai, anime, video games? What video games do I play? - I swear to God, if fate is on here, I'm gonna be so angry. If fate grand order is on here. - Yeah, I didn't put fate on here because I mean, I play, I don't know. - Did you think about putting fate on? - I did put, no. - No.

about putting not fate, but Genshin impact on there. - Oh really? - Yeah, I was really, really fucking into it. - You want to go through the nine games you have? - All right, so starting at the top, Mass Effect 3, Tales of Symphonia, Persona 5, Zelda Wind Waker, League of Legends, Super Mario Sunshine, Metal Gear Solid 3, Subnautica, Gears of War 2.

I look at this and I'm just like, this is the most random fucking list of games. - I was not expecting like half of the games you put on here. - Honestly, I expected myself to put more anime games on and I'm just realizing, what? I haven't really finished any games. - I mean, the only real anime games on here is probably Symphonia and Persona, right? - Yeah, and those are the only, like I'm thinking, what other anime type game series are there?

that are famous because when I think of anime video games, I'm just like "Tales" series, "Persona" series. Those are the only anime video games I've actually finished. - "Sino Saga", "Sinoblade". - I've actually finished. - Why? 'Cause I've only ever played one "Tales" game. I've played "Tales" of...

- Bizarria? - Bizarria? Oh, that's the not good one. - Is it not good one? - No, Bizarria wasn't that good. - That one with the woman with the- - The red and black hair, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's Bizarria, yeah. - I got quite far in for me. I got like 20 something hours in and I was like, this is- - Wow, 20 hours into a JRPG? - Yeah. - That's impressive. - I was like, God, this is so boring.

Literally like all the fights are the fucking same. - Yeah, welcome to JRPGs. - Yeah, I'm completely, okay, so here's the thing. For the longest time, I really, really tried to get into JRPGs. Like as a kid, the reason Tails is on here is that as a kid, I knew I would love JRPGs and like the aesthetic and the story and everything 'cause I love anime. The problem is I had,

hated turn-based battles. Like I couldn't fucking stand turn-based battles and that would like put me off getting more than say five hours into any JRPG because I would just get turned off by the turn-based battles. And so I was like,

As a kid, I was waiting for a game that was an anime game that just did not have a turn-based battle system and also random encounters. I fucking hate random encounters as well. - Okay, random encounters suck. - Wait, wait, okay, you say that though, but "Persona 5" is literally that. - I know, okay, "Persona 5", it doesn't have random encounters, but "Persona 5" is literally the game that

- I mean, even as someone who hasn't played it or plays JRPGs, it's still that JRPG that I look at and I'm like, I know that's a good game. Like I don't need to play it to know that's a good game. You just look at it. - I won't play it, but it's good. - I can see everything about it that this is a banger of a game. I'm not gonna play it 'cause I don't own a console that can play it. And honestly, do I wanna get into that shit? No, but it's a fucking good game. - Like with "Persona 5," I don't know if it's a good game

- I don't know, it's the only turn-based battle game where I just didn't get bored of the battle system. And I don't know why, I think it's- - It's a theme, man. - It's a bit of everything, right? Because it's really good at tricking your mind into thinking that this isn't turn-based battle. That's the best way I can describe- - Which is like the sexiest animations alive. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just got like so many colors, the music fucking slaps.

You can like, you get different abilities as you go on. And I don't know, like it's something, it's really gonna trick your mind into thinking, man, this is, this just, it just feels almost like a rhythm game at points. - Right, right. - You know, it's, I can't put my words on why,

that battle system out of everything just trumped any other JRPG battle system. Because I can't think of any other JRPG I enjoy, even though I say I'm a JRPG enjoyer. - Right. - I have the most basic JRPG taste. - So then why did you put "Tales of Symphonia" there specifically? - "Tales of Symphonia," okay, so. - 'Cause for me, if I would have put a "Tales", 'cause I've played

most of the "Tales" games. - I played one "Tales" game, I don't know what the fuck was happening. So if you wanna explain to me what it's about, 'cause I legitimately don't know anything, and I'm sure the viewers who haven't played it- - 'Cause if I would've put a "Tales" game on there personally, I would've put "Zestiria" on there.

- Yeah, which one is it Styria again? - Styria is the one after Symphonia. - Okay, I would have put, the only one I can think of is Vesperia. - Yeah. - Which is like, I'm just throwing out words for Connor here. - They all sound so similar already. Vesteria, Vesteria, Vesteria, Vesteria. - Yeah, I mean, it's like Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. - I can follow along with the numbers. I'm pretty good at that. I think I've got that down. - I know 6 comes after 5.

I'm pretty sure I'm aware of that. - Yeah, I mean, the best way I can describe it, it's just basically anime as anime the video game. Like it's really that simple. JRPGs are just to me, I know I can get into most JRPGs if I like the combat and battle system because it's just anime the video game, right? And I like anime, I'm a fucking weeb. Therefore equation equals you like the "Tales" series, right?

And the reason Tales of Symphonia won there was it was my first experience with just realizing that, whoa, you can play a video game and it feels like you're watching an anime. Whoa, this is amazing. I can't believe I've just discovered this in my life. And I was so obsessed with this, right? Because these are two of the only JRPGs I've ever finished, but I was so obsessed with it.

that I got to the 80% point as I do with most video games and then I just stopped playing it and I didn't stop playing it because I got bored I

I stopped playing it because I didn't want that experience to end. I didn't wanna see the end credits and know that that experience is over. So like I stopped playing it for about, I held onto that for about two fucking years of my life. Just so I know that I have the ending of "Tales of Symphonia" to look forward to in my life. Like that was like the peak of life after the N64. - You must have got a whole nut.

- You literally blue balled yourself. - That's that monk control kicking in. - Yeah, exactly. - God damn. - The funny thing is, so I'm just like, after about two years, I'm like, okay, I think it's time to complete "Tales of Symphonia." Start playing it. - I think it's time to not. - Yeah, I think it's time to finally not. Start playing it again. And then I realized,

fuck I don't know anything. I can't remember anything that's going on. So what did I do? I just replayed it from the beginning and I was like 80 hours in already. So I felt like a good 150, 160 hours into this game. Persona 5 I actually haven't replayed because- - It's quite long. - It's quite a long game. And compared to Tales when I was a kid, I had plenty of time to fucking replay games back then. - 'Cause I assume Persona is probably gonna be on your list as well.

- Yeah, Persona 5, I've played Persona 5 four times. - You've played it more than me. But I remember the reason Persona's on there is that out of like a lot of games in my adult life, like for the first time in a long time, it felt like I was a kid again and I was just like,

How can I put this into words? When I experienced Persona 5, I didn't know that I could feel this way. Just like being really excited about just being really excited about a game and just discovering this new world. And God, I'm- - I killed my feelings when I was an adult and then Persona 5 reminded me of the game. - It really did. It really did. I don't know. I was just like, yo, this is anime and it's a video game.

- I'm enjoying it again. It's like discovering anime for the first time again. And yeah, like I always, everyone always told me, you know, you're like the "Persona" series, you're like the "Persona" series. And I'm just like, no I fucking won't. It's got turn-based battles in there. Why the fuck would I like that? It's got turn-based battles and then- - They are like the worst system of any combat system, any game. - Far and beyond. One of the few things I can agree on "Dunkey" with.

And that's like the big reason why I haven't, I couldn't get into a lot of the Final Fantasies, never played Final Fantasy VII. I'll probably start playing Final Fantasy VII Remake because that doesn't have turn-based battles. - I mean, I was telling myself I was gonna play Final Fantasy VII for like the past 10 years.

- I never did. - I just never did. - Because it's one of those games like, I'm gonna play it. And of course I'm gonna play it. It's Final Fantasy VII. - Well, I mean, yeah. And then the time passed, yeah. - But I mean, I remember I did boot up Final Fantasy VII the first time on Steam and I was like, ew. - Oh, the original one? - Yeah, I'm like, oh, it's hideous. - Yeah, it looks like absolute shit. - I can't do this. - Like Cloud with like the eggbeater head.

- Like a big beat of hands. - Yeah. - It's fucking horrible now. - Yeah, because you talked about when a new hype game comes out, then you just drop whatever you're playing and just start playing that. I have like the opposite problem. I don't know what, I don't know if there's an actual term for it. I think, I'm just gonna coin a term now. I get hype fatigue.

So like there are times when I see a new game like announced at E3 or something. I see all like the gameplay and like the developers showing off gameplay footage and trailers. And I'm like, I like follow through that. I'm like super, super hyped for this game. Cause I think I'm really, really gonna like this game. And I get so hyped.

that I kind of hype myself out of it once the game actually comes out. - You used all your hype. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so weird. Like I was like that with the Final Fantasy VII Remake. 'Cause I'm like,

- Dude, I can finally enjoy Final Fantasy VII because it's removed the shitty part that I hate about Final Fantasy, the turn-based combat and the random encounters. So in theory, I should love this game 'cause this is one of the greatest JRPGs of all time. Everyone always talks about it. I was hyped for it to come out. I was hyped for it for years and then it came out and then I just was just like,

- Maybe I'll play it later. - That's a really good point. I think that League of Legends killed my ability to get hyped for games. 'Cause I knew that at the end of the day, most of the time I would just return to League of Legends. So it didn't matter what game came out anyway, 'cause I would play it for a week and I'd be like, "All right, back to League." And so now, even though I don't really play League anymore, even when a game that I probably am excited for is announced or whatever, I'm just like, while someone's on Twitter going, you know, like the fucking every letter, I'm just like,

- Oh, cool. - I'll play when it comes out. - It's kind of like that whole thing of like, oh, like a new restaurant just opened up that everyone's fucking hyped about. I'll go check it out. But then you go have a meal there. Might be the best fucking meal of your life. But then, you know, you'd be like, all right, I'm going to McDonald's tomorrow. It's just comfort food, right? Or comfort game. It's just like, there's always that like fallback of, yeah, you know, this is a cool game and all. And like, I'm sure I'll love it if I just kept going on with it. But at the same time, it's like,

I'll just replay this thing. - I wonder as well if you're into story games more, which I think the people who are chasing like the hype are more into story games. 'Cause when you're a multiplayer gamer, mainly like me, it's like, well, I'm just gonna keep playing the same fucking game. So like, why would I get hyped over anything when if there's a new game, I'll probably end up switching to it if it's a new multiplayer game.

So it's kind of hard for me to get hyped about story games. - It's like a catch 22 for me, right? Because I really value good stories in video games, but also like, especially now as an adult, I think I just have commitment issues with games. Like unless I know that I'm going to be committed to this game for the next week of my life, which finding time to commit to a game for the next week of my life is like a big fucking commitment now.

It is so hard that sometimes I just go back to my comfort food of just like maybe replaying Mass Effect. Like when Cyberpunk got released, I was super, super hyped about Cyberpunk and then it got released and then I'm just like, I don't really feel like playing Cyberpunk and I just start playing Mass Effect again. - But you can't choose your dick size in Mass Effect. - 'Cause I know the story of Mass Effect. I know I'm gonna enjoy the story of Mass Effect and I know, but I think over like,

pre overexposure in terms of like gaming is a big thing for me because a lot of people hype up games to no end. And I don't think that people, I don't think in anime at least this is as big of a problem or as big of like a thing where people do, you know, people get hyped about anime as it's airing. People already get hyped about anime or super, super hyped about anime before it starts airing. But with video games, you have years and years like pump yourself up for this game to come out. - Cyberpunk hyping up, right? That was ridiculous.

- I am surprised though that I wasn't expecting, I thought I was gonna be the only Nintendo simp at this table. So I'm glad that you have at least like a couple of Nintendo games here. - Okay, okay. - So let me ask you this. Was Wind Waker your first Zelda?

- It was the first Zelda that I finished. - That's normally how it goes. - Yeah, that's usually how it goes. - 'Cause my favorite was like Twilight Princess and I know that it's not the best one. So I think Breath of the Wild is better than Twilight Princess. - Yeah, but Twilight Princess is still a fucking solid game. - Yeah, but it's a solid game, but it's only 'cause I like, I think that was the first one that I finished. And like when you finish a Zelda game, there's something about it that feels like so, it's true you're a kid. - Yeah, I mean, it was like really hard for me to pick between Wind Waker

and "Breath of the Wild." I was fucking obsessed with "Breath of the Wild" when it came out. 'Cause I remember when I started getting into "Breath of the Wild" was the first time that I came to Japan with Sydney. - Right, right. - The first time I met you.

And I remember like I had a great time in Japan. First time in Japan, of course you're gonna have a great fucking time. But I remember no matter how many times, no matter how many times I went to Akihabara, no matter how many times we hung out and everything, at the back of my mind, I was just like, I kinda just wanna go home. - I could be playing Breath of the Wild. - I could be playing Breath of the Wild right now. - Like I'm just like, you know,

Fuck Joey, man. Like, come on, come on, Joey. You're good. But are you Breath of the Wild good? I don't know about that. You could have said that to my face. I would have been like, you know what? I ain't mad. I kind of agree. I kind of have to agree with you there. - To be fair though, I wasn't expecting Sunshine for some reason. - Okay, out of all the Mario's- - You don't seem like a Sunshine player. - Why don't I seem like a Sunshine player? - I don't know. You just don't, you two don't seem like Nintendo game. I know you're not, but you definitely don't seem like that.

- Because I think the only Nintendo games out on here are like my childhood Nintendo games. Because I was definitely a Nintendo kid. I was such a Nintendo simp when I was a kid. I was like, I didn't, I never owned any other console apart from the NES, Super NES, N64, GameCube. And it was only after GameCube that I finally ventured out, which is why I just didn't own a Wii. And I think since then the Switch is the first Nintendo console I actually owned.

- Right. - And so I still like, out of all the Nintendo games, these two pop out to me as the ones that- - I think they're still like the most popular. - I know, yeah, honestly. - Nor me. - It's like most popular 3D Mario and most popular 3D Zelda. - This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phone.

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And I'd be, I can't hate on both, right? 'Cause I mean, at the end of the day- - But like a lot of people who grew up my age, they put Ocarina of Time and I- - Not gonna lie, I don't understand the hype between Ocarina of Time. - No, I played Ocarina of Time. - Okay, okay, I thought I was- - No, I kinda got bored of Ocarina of Time. I kinda did. - Well, it's like how like, I think Wind Waker, again, it's like the art style, right? Wind Waker aged fucking fantastically.

Ocarina did not age well. Like you play that shit now, it is like fucking impossible to play it without guys and shit. - Well, that's one thing, like I've always said like Ocarina of Time for the Zelda franchise is a lot like Final Fantasy VII for the Final Fantasy franchise where it's like, because it was the first 3D game after a long succession of 2D games, obviously when the 3D like boom was starting, it was massive, right? So people immediately were like, it's in 3D.

automatically 10 out of 10. - I also didn't grow up with it. So, you know, I ended up playing it later. Even like now, right? To me, when I, you know, I've played all the games from "Wind Waker" onwards. I just think like, when I'm looking at "Ocarina of Time," like, you know,

- Majora's mask looks so much more interesting. - Oh yeah. - In like every single way. This game was fucking weird. - I agree. - It's so cool. But like, I don't know. - Did you ever play Majora's mask? - I did like about two hours and then I was like, fuck, this is so hard. - Majora's mask is hard as shit. - It's really hard. - No, I would a hundred percent prefer playing Majora's mask over Ocarina of Time. Just because like,

Again, like it's, well, I mean, for one, both are hard as shit. - Yeah. I don't like playing it on the emulator. I don't know why. Something feels wrong about playing Nintendo 64 games. - Okay, 'cause I have Majora's Mask on like, 'cause I have like a proper N64. - Yeah, I know you do. - And I have Majora's Mask. - Yeah. - And it's like, I don't know, the feeling's kind of the same to me. - Really? - Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's like,

- I wanna go back and play them. - But again, like I don't understand people who are like Ocarina of Time is the greatest Zelda game. I'm like, I'm sorry, it's not, it's not.

I'm gonna get a whole lot of hate about this. But look, I've publicly said that, I'm sorry, but Final Fantasy VII is not the best Final Fantasy. - Again, it's what Canva Bebop is to anime. - Right, it's like- - That's what it is. - That's exactly what it is. - That's what it is. - It's the one you probably watch first. It's the one that probably got you into the franchise or into the medium, right?

but that doesn't mean it's the best. - Yeah, I mean, I agree because these might be the ones from my childhood that I have the fondest memories of, but they weren't the first Zelda or Mario that I played in my life. - I'm surprised you didn't have a Super Mario 64 on there. - Because his- - You're such a boomer, Garnt. These aren't boomer pics, Garnt.

- Boomer pics. - These are way too new. - Because the thing is, I'm not like a super massive Mario fan. I did, you know, I have completed 64, completed Sunshine, completed what's the most recent Mario game? - Odyssey. - Odyssey. I mean, I completed them, not got all the shiny shines or, you know, but I got to the end game beat Bowser the final time. So, you know, I have completed them, but out of all the Marios that I've played,

I just think there's something about sunshine. You know when you think back to a game and it just vibes with you? Like the feeling just vibes you? That's sunshine. - I feel like sunshine is just,

- It's so goddamn clean. - It's literally in the name, sunshine, okay? If you couldn't tell, I'm a bit of a summer kid, right? We've had many arguments about this where like I fucking- - Does that mean anything though? - It does. - Just because I like the winter, I'm not gonna go get fucking Mario at the fucking Winter Olympics, right? - He's playing fucking Mario 64, gets to the snow level, turns it off. - No, no, that is exactly what happened.

- Are you playing Mario in like 4D? - No, because like- - It goes outside the- - No, no, no, because- - You're at the snow level, turn on AC. - You know there are some levels out there where you hit it and you're just like,

"Oh, it's this level again." Like every fucking water level in any fucking video game of all time. - But I'm not like, "Oh fuck, you know what's one thing I hate about the stage? The weather." I've never been like that. - I am literally like that. - What is wrong with you? - No, when I played Mario Sunshine, I loved it because every level is like, every level gives off that summer feeling and that summer vibe, which I fucking love. And it's...

like the ones that I hated, the levels that I hated the most in Mario Sunshine were like the boo levels, something where it's like dark and scary and whatever. - The pachinko level, fuck. - Yeah, the pachinko level is the fucking worst. - Yeah, yeah. But like for the most part, it gives off a very summery vibe. And I think back to that, I'm just like, yeah, I fuck with this. I'm gonna use Joey's term here. I fuck with this. It just makes me happy. It gives me the good feelings. - No, I get that, I get that.

- It's like so hard to, this is gonna be such a boring part of their podcast where we're just like, damn Garnt, you have good taste. I mean, like this is categorically just two great games. - Yeah, exactly. - Congratulations Garnt, you have good taste. - Oh God, I've become Connor now. - This is super vanilla.

- I mean, I'll happily say that this is super vanilla. I mean, it's also just interesting because it's like, I think it's because we just never fucking talk about the games that we're into. So like, I never expected like Subnautica or like Gears of War to be there. - Yeah, what the fuck? Okay, I love fucking Gears of War. Why is it on your list? What the fuck? - Okay, so I had a hard choice putting my, yeah, my last three. So Gears of War,

- Gears of War is on there because it is the first multiplayer game that's, it was the game that is on there because that's how I discovered online gaming. And I'm just like, Matt, Gears of War was a good fucking online game. - No dude, it was clean. And honestly, Gears of War 2 is probably the first game where I was like, whoa, video games can like make me sad.

- Wait, what? - Oh, the story. - Okay, no, I didn't give a shit about the story. - Dude, the story's so good. - I don't even think I finished that. - What, why am I, what are we swapping? - Bro, this story is so good. - I literally put this on here 'cause like I had such a hard time 'cause I'm just like, I didn't give a shit about the story. I didn't finish the story. - No, dude, there's one thing I remember about "Gears of War II," it's the story. - Dude, the story is so, I remember this, okay, it doesn't count as spoilers anyway, it's so fucking old, you should know that. - What was the story again?

The locusts are taking over the earth and they're basically stopping them, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, that's basically like the- - Wow, G-U-G whiz. - Because there was like the two duo who you're following, which is- - I just remember one guy trying to look for his wife or something. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the sad part. - That was like, 'cause then he like finds it, but then he didn't find it. It was like an illusion. And then I'm like, what the fuck? I was like 13. I'm like,

- And it's like massive meat head of a character just like breaks down in the battlefield. I'm just like, oh my God. - I was just like, this is the first game when I'm just like, oh, chainsaw go brr. - That's how it gets you in. So Gears of War gets you in with the chainsaw go brr super manly man. And then 10 minutes in you're fucking crying. And you're like, whoa, what happened? - It's like chainsaw man the game. - No, no, for me,

the one memory I hold for Gears of War 2, the multiplayer is just the sound it makes when you pop a guy's head off with a sniper rifle. - Did you play Gears of War? - Yeah, I played two, yeah. Like that was, I think that sole sound and I don't know why it was so fucking satisfying 'cause it was like literally cracking an egg. - Well, I mean, those shotguns are like still, there's like no multiplayer experience like the online in Gears of War.

It's just shotguns. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's like the meta is like you have to run up to people and shotgun each other. - Right, right. - Okay, the shotgun was also really satisfying when you got like a point blank and the body just explodes. My God, like you're the monkey brain, but that was like the first time I'm just like, okay, I enjoy this now. This is fun. - It was really sad 'cause I think Gears of War got plagued by the fact that there was just like, there would always be like,

two really fucking God tier players in the game that could just dominate the whole lobby. So it just kind of became not fun after a while if you weren't like a pro, 'cause you'd just get fucking destroyed by the like good players. - I didn't play online Gears of War II a lot. - It was really good online. - What console was it on again? - 360. - Yeah, 'cause I didn't own a 360, but I played it at my friend's place a lot, just like LAN multiplayer. And that was like really, really fun. But yeah, I probably,

From the sounds of it, I probably wouldn't enjoy it online. - No, you probably wouldn't now. I mean, it was me discovering what multiplayer meant and before I started hating. Okay, Gears of War started my love for multiplayer games. League of Legends killed it.

- League of Legends is in the middle. 'Cause I think out of all these games, I have probably played League of Legends the most. Not proud to admit it. But the reason it's on there is because I think the honeymoon period of League of Legends for me was probably the best gaming experience of the year.

- It was really long for me as well. Mine was like two years long. - That's a long honeymoon. - Dude, when you're getting into that game and it's going well, it feels so fun. It's great. It's so fun to get into. It's just hard. - Yeah, 'cause the problem is now I feel like multiplayer games just aren't fun unless you are getting into it immediately as it's released.

Because the problem with multiplayer games I've found now is that you have a new game and that's when a new game just gets released, that's the fun part. 'Cause nobody really knows how to be good at the game. Everyone's just kind of like really discovering what works and what doesn't. Everyone's just fucking having fun.

And then you get to a point in multiplayer where people just realize how to optimize the fun out of the game. - The sweaty boys come out, right? - Well, that's what happened with like Fortnite. Honestly, like honestly, all memes aside, Fortnite was so fun when it first came out. That's why it blew up. And then when it got to the point where everyone would like build a fucking mortgage right in front of your eyes within 10 seconds and you couldn't do anything, it's like, well, this is just not fun anymore. I don't have the dexterity of like a chimp on like Coke, right? Like how am I supposed to do this?

- Yeah, 'cause I remember like, I really, really fucking enjoyed Overwatch when it first came out. - Yeah, me too, me too. - I didn't make the same mistake of trying to do ranked because I'd learned from League of Legends, but even just playing casually, I really, really fucking enjoyed it. And then they get to a point when even in casual games, you weren't allowed to have fun anymore. You got the same heroes being picked. - Could you change your hands, though?

I mean, I will fully admit I was like a Genji main because I was a dirty leaf. And the reason I played Genji was because I fucking sucked at Genji. But like the one time out of 10 where I did an old and actually worked out, that was the reason I played Genji. Like nine out of 10 times, I would completely flunk it. I would fail. I would get killed straight away. But that one time, that one time when it worked out, that's what I live for, man.

And because of that, I was one of the most toxic. I wasn't the most toxic ones, but I was that one Genji on your team that probably threw you the match. I was that person. - Did you talk shit to your teammates? - I didn't talk. I'm not a toxic gamer, funnily enough. I'm just like, "Oh, come on guys, we can do it if we all put together." - Go team! - We can win with the power of friendship. Come on guys. - Oh my God. In ranked, you had to start shouting at people, get them to shut up.

- I'm just like that guy who just goes mutual and just does my own thing. - Yeah, I do that sometimes too. - I mean, I play it as closely as a single player game as I can because like playing online game just makes me, makes you realize how fucking, how much I hate people. - People are the worst. - Especially in competitive ones, right? - That's why like in Japan it's so weird 'cause like people just don't smack talk at all. - They don't know how to. - Yeah, it's just like, and most you'll get passive aggression.

- I probably enjoy Japanese competitive gaming. - No one talks unless you talk to them. - Because I play in the league servers in Japan and like 90% of them are just Chinese smurfs. So of course they're like toxic as shit. - Yeah, it's why I don't really play anymore. 'Cause it's just like, you can't fucking have fun in League of Legends. It's just like a Korean Chinese playground.

where they're like, "Oh, let's go and fuck with the Japanese players "who are a suck at this game." - Yeah, it's literally just the playground where the school bullies go to, to just bully the younger kids. - Just like LeBron James coming down to the elementary match, start dunking, you know?

- It's a bit like you suck. - Yeah. - Metal gear, whatever. I mean, that's good. You can't, what can I say? - No one can complain about that, honestly. - No, it's just great. - I mean, you could have put any metal gear in there, it would have been good. - I mean, for me, like, do you know the reason I enjoyed metal gear?

- Why? - Because I have played all middle gears except for middle gear five. - Really? - Apparently the best one in terms of gameplay. - It is the best one. - I have really no kind of wants to play it. - Because of the hype fatigue? - No, no, no, no, okay. - I get it, you feel like you had your fill. - No, I didn't have my fill. Like I was hype as shit for it. - What is it Garnt? - And then I found out that the story was kind of like incomplete and I'm just like, okay.

- Well, that just takes the reason for "Metal Gear". - So leave it more incomplete by not playing it? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What, that doesn't make any sense. It's not finished and I haven't finished it, so I'm not gonna do any more. It doesn't deserve my time. - Okay, like, how do you feel about this, Connor? Like when you play, have you ever played "Metal Gear"?

- No. - Okay. - None of them? - No, 'cause it was like, I don't know why, but like I never really saw it in like the shops when I was growing up. - Probably 'cause it was also on PlayStation as well, right? - I had a PlayStation 2 growing up. - Right. - But yeah, for some reason I was probably playing like Shrek and Spyro and damn shit like that.

- Good choice. - I was really like, yeah, when I was younger, I wasn't attracted at all to like the FPS art or like the military looking stuff. I always went for the childish cartoonish looking stuff. - Oh yes, you do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Even when I was like 14, 15, I would still like to prefer the cartoon anime style over. So I normally avoided that.

So I was playing like fucking theme park games and shit when I was like 15. - Like Rollercoaster Tycoon and shit. - PlayStation had its own brand of like these theme park games. And I think they're still quite popular on YouTube occasionally. And you could build the rides and then ride them from like POV first person. - Oh, wow. - It was really cool. - Shit. - Do you know what I'm on about? - No, no, I'm just getting a flashback of memories now. Maybe I should have put that on there. 'Cause I've spent far too much time on theme park or things.

- Yeah, theme park and theme hospital. - Yeah, I think, you know, rollercoaster tycoon is like, fuck man, I put a lot of time into that. - Oh dude, I put way too much time into rollercoaster tycoon. - Honestly, it could be on my list. - Yeah, I'm just like, shit man, maybe I should have put that on my list. But yeah, in terms of,

Like I never got into the roller coaster tycoon because a theme park had like the voiced person telling you what to do. And I don't know something about having someone voiced telling you what to do was a big selling point for me. - Was that the one, the PlayStation 2 one that I'm on about?

- Maybe, I don't know. - I'll have to find the box album when we have a break. - Yeah, but it definitely had a POV option where you could build the rides and then you could ride it. - And there was like racing games in it. So when you built like the racing track, you built the track yourself and then you could race around it. - Oh, that sounds cool. - Yeah, dude, it was awesome. - Why have I never heard of this? - And then like you could- - Shit, I wanna play it now. - There was like the normal park. There was like an alien park. - Yeah, yeah. - Remember this?

And each world had like different ride things that you could ride. And like you couldn't progress to the next world unless your theme park was X successful.

- That just sounds like Rollercoaster Tycoon. - It is Rollercoaster Tycoon. - It was like Rollercoaster Tycoon, but like better. Because like Rollercoaster Tycoon is pure like top down. And it's like you get in there. You can walk around your park. That's POV. Like it was so good. - Why have I never heard of this? - This is the box art. I'm gonna find it, Mudan. I know what the box art looks like. I think they released other types of games as well, but this is the one that like I literally played to death on the PS2. - No, you are reminding me now and I'm just like, fuck. I didn't play it on PS2, I played it on PC. - It was on PC as well. - Yeah, it was on PC.

Fuck man. That's the thing about memories. - Nostalgia hit me hard.

- No, because I fucking loved simulator games like that. I could never get to the Sims, but I fucking loved like Sim City, Theme Hospital, Relicosa Tycoon, not Relicosa Tycoon, Theme Park, as you said. God, I put so many out there. - You just hit it with that nostalgia. - So that's why I never really played military games 'cause I would always see like the bright light boxes and I think, being a fucking 14, 15 year old, you're like,

- No, I was exactly the same when like heavy rain came out. And I looked at the box art and I'm like, what the fuck is that? And now I regret not playing it back in the day 'cause many years later I played, I was like, this game's fucking fantastic. - 'Cause I loved like Crash Bandicoot so much on the PS2. And like that was the kind of art style that I normally gravitated towards. - I completely forgot about that.

- There's so many games that you've like, even all the spinoffs of Crash Bandicoot, like Crash Racing. They had like the Mario Party-esque kind of game called like Crash Bash, which I really liked as well. - I heard of that one. - Even though it's a terrible game right now, but I used to play it a bunch and there's like Crash 1, 2,

- Crash racing, dude. - Crash racing. - Crash racing. - That was so good. - The only racing game that could legit compete against Mario Kart. - No, no, no, no, no. What was the Diddy Kong Racing? - Diddy Kong Racing. - Diddy Kong Racing is up there. Come on. - Really? - It is up there. - It is up there. - I got Diddy Kong Racing for the DS.

- No, no, you need to play the N64 version. - The N64 version, because that was when it could actually compete with- - Well, it was made by Rare, right? So, you know, I could see- - I remember like 10 year old me going to my friend's place and he had Diddy Kong Racing on the N64 and I'm like, wait, you can ride on airplanes? - Yeah, and like boats. - What the fuck?

- Yeah, like for me, I was really close to putting Banjo-Kazooie on here. - Oh my God. - Oh yeah. - Another Normie. - Another Normie. - Normie, but it's good. It's good, it's good, what can I say? And yeah, I don't know.

- Okay, so like a big reason why I had so few games to pick from, right? Is because when I really get into game, I really get into a game. I wring out as much content as I can out of that game. Every side quest, every little piece of dialogue, I play it to death so I can get everything. Like with, let's say, so with Metal Gear, right? So there would be times where, you know, are you familiar with the codec calls?

- Oh, the ones where they would like call you up and be like, "Snake." - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - "Your ass is done, Snake." - So one of the big criticisms of "Metal Gear" when I was playing it and when it was like really, really big was people hated the cut scenes, how long the cut scenes were. People hated the fact that you had to go through all these codec calls.

- I fucking love that shit, man. I'm like, holy shit, there's an hour cut scene? Be right back, getting the popcorn. This is the most epic gameplay I could ever hope for. - Was Metal Gear 3 the one with like Psycho Mantis? Is that the one? - That was the first one. - Oh, I thought the first one was like the top down, like NES one.

- Oh, no, no, I mean that's- - That's Metal Gear. - That's Metal Gear, not Metal Gear Solid. - Metal Gear Solid is like the 3D one. - 'Cause like every time I watch, 'cause I've watched tons of videos about Metal Gear and every time I watched it, I'm like, fuck, I wish I like got this when I was a kid because it looks badass. - It was fucking badass. But the thing is like, okay, so there's Metal Gear and there's Tails as well. Tails has this feature, right? I mean, you've played a Tails game. How did you think about the skits feature? - What was skits? What was that?

- Oh, wait, is this where you talk with the character and it comes with the fire emblem thing? - What? Wait, what? - Where you interact with characters? - No, am I crazy? - Kind of. So in Intel's games, they have this thing called skits, right? Where you'd be walking around and then you press like the select button when they give you a prompt, right? And it would just be characters talking to each other. - Oh yeah, I'd never, I always either skipped that or didn't do it.

So like I was probably the one fucking person who just hit every skit button. Like I don't care what time I'm in, what like, at which point of the story, I would just like, I literally played "Tales" and I literally like, there are some skits that only happen at certain areas of the map, which are like some areas of the map you literally have to walk

on the other side of the map and there was no like quick- - Wow, this is a big boulder, huh? Yeah, it sure is. - It literally doesn't mean shit. - Yeah, and it literally doesn't mean shit. I fucking love that feature. I don't know, man.

- 'Cause if I love the characters and I love the world, I'm getting every kind of like, I'm getting kind of- - You're interacting with them everywhere. - Every interaction I can. Same thing with Mass Effect. When people talk about how much they love Mass Effect, they talk about, oh, you know, the character writing and you know, not so much the gameplay anymore, but like the world and the characters that are,

I was probably like, I remember there was one Mass Effect gameplay session I had where I literally wasted an hour or two because in Mass Effects they have this,

it's not a codec function, but like a database function where they literally have a database of like every, like the history and law of like every alien, every world that you go to. So I literally spent an hour or two of Mass Effect going through the entire database and just reading the whole law of Mass Effect. - I'd rather not, I'd rather not, you know?

And I fucking loved it. I absolutely loved it. - I can't even shake my head 'cause I used to do that exact same thing with other games. - What's wrong with you guys? Does anyone wanna play a game, read a book or some shit? The fuck?

- I did that recently actually when I played Xenoblade 2 for the first time. And there's this part where like every monster you encounter has like a full page about like how it lives and shit like that. I read through all of them and I'm like, oh, okay. So like the Zafaros only lives in the swamp.

- That's really interesting to me. Like to me, that's what really makes a video game. Like it's especially because if I'm like really into a video game, I'm gonna find out everything I can about that video game. And that's like, but the thing there's a difference, right? 'Cause I like when it's just fed to me in video games. Like people have talked about, you know, the law of dark souls and everything like that. And people have like figured stuff out through the subtle hints that you get through playing the game. I'm just like, just tell me it.

Just give me exposition. This is the one time where I actually want exposition. - When you say that, all I think about is the fucking, the Silent Hill person who's like- - Hideo Kojima? - No, no, no, sorry. So there's like, on Silent Hill forums, there's like, where they discuss like what the game's about and stuff. It was like a really big thing and a big like, not controversial, like drama because one of like the main admins who'd had like some of the most posts on it was like convinced

that the main character was circumcised and that was the reason for his like trauma and that he was like gay or something. And then he was gay because of it or something like that. And so there's this whole like, dude, like Wang made like a 20 minute video about it. And it's like this whole thing where it was like a massive deal on the forums where they're discussing, you know, is, and then the guy was like, you know, he was on like a crusade being like, no one should be circumcised. It causes trauma and stuff like that.

And it turns like a whole thing. And I'm just like, is this what people do? In my mind, I'm like, that's people who read story. That's what they do. They go on forums, talk about why the main character is gay and his circumcision was trauma. What's wrong with these people? Play a fucking video game. Why are you typing about it?

- I'm not even surprised by that. - Yeah, I'm relieved when you like the story being told to you. Not when you're like, I wanna figure it out. Is my character actually like gay or something? Let me read the room. - Easy circumstance, I need to know. - I need to figure it out.

- Hideo Kachima left me hints that Metal Gear Solid Snake is circumcised. Like what? - Which is funny, like I'm more than happy to watch anime where I'm just like, oh, what's the subtle, what's the subtext of this? What is the author trying to say? But with gaming, I'm just like, nah, no patience. Just give me- - Well, because you're already focused on like actually playing the game. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Whereas like, no, no, I don't need to like, I don't want to like sit here and fucking guess what the story is while I'm trying to do this convoluted input, right? - Yeah.

- And there's also another thing that also like, it's gonna sound super weird, but sometimes I hate choice in video games. I just want a linear game, which is funny that Mass Effect- - Yeah, I was gonna say you literally put Mass Effect. - The fucking Mass Effect. - Literally Mass Effect, Persona 5. - Yeah, yeah, Mass Effect and Persona 5, which are the two, like let's say the two- - Most choice heavy games. - Yeah, two of the most choice heavy games and the two exceptions, the two exceptions to that rule. But I have this thing,

I don't know if I'm the only person who has like gaming FOMO where I'm given a choice and I know that like by making this choice, I'm gonna miss out on a certain piece of content. - Oh yeah. - I hate that.

I hate that so much, right? Because that means in the back of my mind, I'm just like, but what if I pick the other choice? - Well, that's literally the reason why I replay Persona 5 four times. 'Cause I was like, well, there's four choices and I want to see all of them. So I'm going to play it four times to get all the choices. - I think it was unfortunate that I like swore off JRPGs after playing Blue Dragon.

- Oh really? - Which I mean, I think I've mentioned this before. - Yeah, you've talked about it. - Yeah, yeah. - It's the one that was like, I think the main selling point that comments were saying is that it was, the art was made by the Dragon Ball guy. - Yeah, Toriyama, yeah. - Yeah, and like,

- I'd never encountered this before in a video game. And this is what really pissed me off. 'Cause at this point I was an achievement hunter guy. So I would always go in like a hundred percent. I would get all the achievements no matter what. This is the first time I encountered the thing where I'm like, okay, so this story is two hours long or some dumb shit like that. It's ridiculously long.

And I did it. And then I'm like, all right, how do I get these last few achievements? And I'd be like, this achievement is on the forum would say this, like this achievement is only unlockable by doing this one option in this one mission. If you pass it, you can never get this achievement. I'm like, what? What?

- That is such a JRPG movie. - And that's so fucked up that they would do that. Like what kind of sick fuck does that? They're like, I don't want anyone to be able to get this achievement. Make them play the whole fucking like 200 hour game again. Fucking assholes. There's no need to do that. Why would you do that as a game designer?

- I don't know. - It's to get you to replay the game, right? - Yeah, I mean, I- - And the fucking, fucking every time you- - I mean, like the reason I hate it is because it takes enough energy for me to finish a game once. So I'm thinking, fuck, if I need to replay this game, I'm just not gonna see this content. - Right, right, right. - Yeah. - Yeah. - If you wanna see the shitty turn-based combat, you should play Blue Dragon, man.

Every time you fucking start a battle, fucking the main song starts playing and it's a guy fucking singing. It sounds like the Pokemon intro. And then it takes like 20 seconds of animations where they all like summon their things. It's like 20 seconds long before you can even start the fucking turn-based combat. - Dude, don't tempt me.

- Don't tempt me like that. - Dude, I'm excited. - It's fucking garbage. - And it's Toriyama dude, that is like right up my alley. - Garbage. I also hate in JRPGs that like they give you these characters and like what if you hate the characters that you have to use? Like in Pokemon at least I can swap out, you know, Bulbasaur. - No, but like most JRPGs, like it's, you know, like especially with a turn-based ones, right? It's like, you can only have four in the party. So just pick your four favorite characters, right? - Well, this one, it was like, you only have these guys and they were shit and annoying characters.

- Yeah, so it was like, what am I supposed to fucking do? This game sucks. - Oh, and that's not a good JRPG. - And then like one of the main enemies was just a snake coiled in like a shit. And the whole joke was that it was a piece of shit. And I'm like, yeah, hilarious. - That sounds hilarious. - What, it's a piece of shit. It's a metaphor for the game.

I'm still annoyed about it. I completed it and I loved playing it, but I literally only played it because it was like, I bought this game and my mom wouldn't buy me another one. So I have to complete this game. - I need to play this now. - I want you to play it just so you can like- - How did you get that game again? - So what it was is like, you know, I don't know if your game stores had this, but in the UK they had a three for 20 pounds pre-owned games. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - So I would basically just go to the thing and buy three games that looked okay. And then I would just be forced to play them. Most of the time they were all like super easy. - And you had an absolute gold, like blue dragon.

- There was like one of each game and there's a whole fucking shelf of blue dragons. Just like take them, take them honestly, like for free, honestly. It comes with the badge. - Was it like a well received game at all or like- - I think it's very mid tier, like five out of 10, six out of 10. This was my first time ever having to swap discs to progress with the story and that shit pissed me off. - Holy shit. - Yeah, I remember that. - I just remembered something. - What? - All right.

- Okay, I get rid of Gears of War. - No, that was a good pick. - That's a good pick. - No, no, no. - Get rid of Subnautica. - Why Subnautica in there? - I'll get rid of Subnautica. I just remembered something. Put FIFA 09 in terms of- - End the podcast. What the fuck? - I just fucking remembered. I had a period in my life where I was obsessed with FIFA.

- I am not joking. - Were you also smoking cigarettes on a corner playing footy? - Okay, this is during the university. You're in a British university, everyone played FIFA. - I would refuse and be like, "No, no, I'm gonna play anything else. Fuck this game." - I just remembered something. I was one of the top 200 players of FIFA at a point. - Really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not joking. I'm not joking.

- This is like Connor coming out that used to be like a con pro. - So how are you in the top 200? How did it work? Is it like rankings? - Yeah, it's like ranking. It's a literal ranking system. And it got to the point where I just got myself on the leaderboards of FIFA. - I don't know how I did it. - Because I was just obsessed with the game and like everyone started playing it. So I'm just like,

I guess I'll play FIFA. - Did you demolish everyone in like your uni dorm? - Yeah, pretty much. Because here's the thing, because like my group of mates at my uni dorm, they were like super, super competitive over FIFA, right? It was like- - They were like that in mine. - This is how you get bragging rights. There was two games, it was COD and FIFA.

And I was just, to me, it was just like, FIFA was not like watching football at all. FIFA was just like, ball goes boop, boop, boop, boop. And yeah, I don't know. I just got really good at it. And I don't know how, because yeah, I mean,

- Just the British in you. - Yes. - Well, yeah, there was two games. - 'Cause I fucking, I feel like it was one game where I got good at really unintentionally and it was probably the only game I've ever played in my life that I got good at unintentionally. And I don't really like football that much.

- What's wrong with you, Garth? What the fuck is wrong with you? - Top 200 in the world. - I hate this game. - Literally like Saitama, I just need a worthy opponent. - The fact is like, I had completely blanked that from my memory until just now. - It's the shameful time we don't speak of. - Yeah, I'm just like,

How the fuck did that happen? How the fuck did I get top 200 in, yeah, top 200 in FIFA? And I'm just like, yeah, I just played it and I just kept ranking up and then I just got really bored and I stopped playing because, and the reason I stopped playing was because I finished uni and I didn't have a reason to play it anymore.

- No, 'cause I remember now how it started because I got the game literally just to blend in with the normies. So I literally got the game so I could have something to talk to people about at parties, right? And so- - I'm one of them. He literally bought FIFA as a social gimmick. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I started playing it so I could like keep up with my mates and everything. And then I just kind of,

figured out a matter, I guess, because you know, it's football, everyone wants to score goals. And then I quickly realized if you just learned how to defend correctly, and if you just could defend goods, you are better than 90% of players that ever played that game. 'Cause everyone only wants to score goals. And then, so after that, so I've, so after that, then I figured out the broken teams and the broken team was Barcelona because they were the best team.

in the world at the time. But then, so most people were picking Barcelona. And then I realized that there was a counter to Barcelona, which was Inter Milan because Inter Milan had Zlatan Ibrahimovic and he just completely destroyed the Barcelona defense because he couldn't be shaken off the ball. - That's the Swedish guy, right?

- Yeah, that's the Swedish guy. Yeah, yeah. In the game he was completely fucking broken. - In real life he was completely broken. - So then once I realized that, I just started beating on my mates and then I was just like, you know what? Let's just limit test myself. How far can I get up with this? And I said top 200 earlier. I'm not sure if it's top 200 or top 300, but like one of the,

- One of the top. - Still impressive. - Yeah, one of the top few hundreds in the game at the time. And I just kept playing until I stopped climbing and yeah, that's how far I climbed. And then like, I just casually told one of my mates that,

And he's just like, "Have you ever thought about entering competitions or stuff like that?" And I'm just like, "No, I don't think I will." Because yeah, I just wanted to make anime reviews and watch anime at the time. So I just like had no interest in playing that game in my own time. - Takes off Adidas tracksuit. "Don't think I will."

- Exactly. And yeah, I just remember that now. So I don't know what reminds me of that topic. - That was like pre the, before the FIFA Ultimate Team.

- Yeah, that was before FIFA Ultimate. I don't know what the fuck is going on right now with FIFA Ultimate. - Yeah, so like right now, like I think if you wanna have a legitimate competitive team in FIFA, you need a team of a value of around 27,000 real month, like dollars. - Jesus. - That's how much you on average have to spend to have an actual like top competitive team. - Why? - So all the pros have spent like $30,000 plus.

- So, okay. - Fucking hell. - Okay. - Just to compete. - This is gonna sound so weird after everything I've just said. What's FIFA ultimate?

- Basically, again, this is 100% like, imagine an alien describing how humans converse. I've never played this myself, but obviously I'm a gamer. So I like to keep up with games. But yeah, so essentially what it is is micro transactions. Like imagine anime, like, you know, 'cause fate, can you go against each other in fate?

- No, no, no. - So imagine a PVP fate where you can build a team just so happens instead of like, you know, two or three characters, it's like a team of like 11 or whatever it is. - So it's literally FIFA gotcha.

- Yeah, it's like, they're the ones who like, this is the reason why it started. Like it got so bad. - So it's literally pay to win. - It's 100% pay to win. And so like to even, so to be like, to be able to compete competitively, you have to have the stacked team. To get the stacked team, you'd spend on average like $30,000 to even have a chance of getting the stacked team.

- Dude, that's fucked. - It's so fucked. And like you hear even the pros talk about it. Like there's interviews with them where they're like, yeah, it's not fun at all. Like you have to spend this amount of money and everyone's playing the same shit 'cause everyone has the same broken shit. - Yeah, everyone has the same shit. - It's so fucked. Like, you know, we sit here and complain about "Gacha" and it's like, yeah, okay, you know, at the end of the day,

90% of the time you're not playing against other people. And that's where it starts to get real fucked. - When you start playing against other people, that's where I draw the line. - Because you're like, oh, I could beat this person or I could have won this event if I just had that extra broken character. - 'Cause the way I see it is that with the gacha games I play, you're playing against a computer or you're playing through to get content.

If it becomes PVP, then you are kind of making someone else's day worse by paying more. You know what I mean? - Yeah, it's definitely, yeah. - You're making someone else's gaming experience worse because you played more and that's where I draw the line. - Yeah. - I don't know which game I played. I think I found it on like mini clip or something. It's like when I first started earning my own money and there was like a game where it was kind of like one of those, like you kind of like, what's that Clash of Clans? Like the really popular mobile game?

One where you build your own fort on your square of the map. But it takes like days for their army to arrive. So this was like before even that was out. I was playing a game similar to that on like mini clip or some shit. And then like, I remember,

I was playing this game and I thought I was doing pretty well. I had only spent like 20 bucks and I was like, oh, this is, I'm doing pretty good for myself, hey. And then literally like a guy who had like the fucking like just perfect like Putin's palace worth of shit just came in and just one shot my entire thing that I'd spent months building just because he clearly was like, he had like just oil money or something. This man had everything in the game which must've been like 50K worth of stuff and just killed me.

And I was like, "What the fuck? What the fuck?" - Imagine Peter winning a mini clip game. - Yeah, I know, right?

I was like, I felt bad that I spent 20 bucks on it. 'Cause I was like 18 and I was like, "Oh my God, this is a lot of money." And I was like, this asshole wiped out not only the hours that I put in, but the 20 bucks that I put in were wiped out and I couldn't fucking do anything. I had to sit there and watch his army coming for five days and then you can drop down the menu, see this man's army. The man had sent like the equivalent of like everything they fought in 300 against me. And I'm literally like- - It's like the fucking

- Persian empire. - Yeah, I'm literally there with like my fucking like stick men, like ready. And I'm seeing this army come like four weeks ahead and I'm like, fuck, okay. Like mom, get the credit card. What am I supposed to do? This is so fucked. - Oh my God. - And a lesser man would have been like, I can win this. A lesser man would have thought I could outbid this man.

So this is why people hate microtransaction. I get it now, I understand gamers. - I think from that moment on, as I slowly saw that man's army approach me, the resentment built every day to the point where I was like, I can't, this is fucked. I'm just watching my work be destroyed. - So I guess going back to the FIFA Ultimate thing, I'm curious, how do people even become pros? Does that mean you have like a- - You have to legit be good at this.

I mean, there is- - Literally drop a house deposit. - You have to be good and also have disposable income to become a pro in FIFA Ultimate then, I guess. - Isn't it sad that when you're going to a tournament, there's probably some people at that tournament who are like, need that money to recoup the money they put in. Just to like, isn't that sad to think? - Oh, that is fucked. - Normally, if you're an amazing fighting game player, all you gotta worry about is the hotel, getting there and making sure you have enough to live, which is all okay, which is difficult.

But you add on that of like, oh, so I spent 50K on peach.

to enter this mat. You know what I mean? It's like, this is ridiculous. It's so bullshit, man. I feel bad for the people playing FIFA who genuinely liked the game but have to deal with this shit. - Yeah, I didn't know it had a competitive scene at all. 'Cause I mean, I stopped playing after like 09, 10 and I'm just like, okay, that is behind me. I literally blanked it from my memory. - You got out. - I got out. - That's a good choice.

- Shall we move on gentlemen? - Yeah, we're an hour in. We should get moving on. - Let's pull out Trash Taste Coon again and see who's going second. - Do you wanna pick Joey? - Sure.

- Okay, next is Connor. - Wow, we literally did this again. We went in order last time, trying to put these two back in. All right, pull mine up, put it up. Check this out. - All right, I'm ready for a lot of toxic gaming right here. I'm ready for a lot of pro gaming. - I have reasons behind all my picks here. And also I think some of them you'll be like, yeah. Some of them will be like, what the fuck's wrong with you? Here we go. Check this shit out, check this shit out. - Okay. - Check this shit out.

- Some good guys. - Okay, there's some here that I was like, all right, fully expecting. - Fully expected. - Some of them, okay. I'm gonna have to give you points for the middle three there.

- Yeah bro, come on. - Especially the very middle one, I was not expecting from you. - Bro, Super Mario Strikers is like, if you played that game as a kid, you know, you're in the know. - It is so good. - It is legit, like it is an actual crime. - FIFA 09 ain't got shit on Strikers. - Yeah, Garnt was here being pro at FIFA, I was here fucking clapping my friend's cheeks with the Super Smashes.

- Super Mario Strike is right. If you've played this game, you'll know exactly why this is on here. This shit is God tier. Like everyone who's played this game fucking loves it. - It's the original GameCube one, right? - Yeah, yeah, it's so good. And it's an actual crime we don't have this on Switch. - It was that one and also Sluggers as well, the baseball one. - So, oh my God, oh my God, just hit me with this.

- Sluggers, Super Mario Sluggers on GameCube is so good. - I had a fucking ordeal trying to get Sluggers on the Wii. - Oh really? - So what happened was is that I saw Sluggers somewhere online. I was like, "Mom, I want this." And it was only available from like Taobao or something on China. - Right. - Like, so my mom bought it from China for me for Christmas. And it was like the one game that I really wanted that Christmas. And I put it in and then obviously the Wii has,

that has a, what's it called? - Anti-piracy. - Region log? - Oh, the region log, yeah. - So I put it in and I was like, why isn't it working, mom? And obviously my parents have no fucking idea. Is that like, what is this? - We bought you the game. - It's the game, why isn't it working? And they didn't figure it out either. And so they sent it back and bought another one from China again. 'Cause for some reason it didn't, it wasn't out in Europe for some reason. - Oh really? - Think either it hadn't released yet, 'cause you know back then it was like, for some reason they would leave six months between the release and the release.

- Europe and Australia were always the last ones to get it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It sucked 'cause you'd have to see all these YouTube videos. You're like, I know this exists, why can't I buy it? And so I had a whole ordeal. I never got to play it in the end, even though we bought it like two or three times. - I play Sluggers at my friend's place and I had the most fun I've ever played in a Mario spinoff game. - I think, yeah. - What is Sluggers? - It's the baseball one. - It's the baseball one. - I think that Mario Strikers is the best Mario spinoff game.

- Oh, strikers, there's strikers, there's sluggers, and then there's a Mario three on three basketball as well. On the DS, do you know that one? - I never played that, but it looked good. - What? - I played that too. - Dude, legit. - I feel like you're just naming Mario Party mini games now. - Dude, honestly, all of the sports spinoffs of Mario are all such fucking solid games. Like Mario tennis, fucking solid. Mario golf, fucking solid. - I think I legit would put like strikers,

up there with Mario Kart, like mainline. - Yeah, I would too. - I think it's that good. Like to me it's like, yeah, okay, of course I like Sunshine, gone. Of course I like all these games. But like Mario Strikers, that's when you're woke. You're like, I'm listening.

- Like if your mate's like, you wanna play Strikers? You're like, fuck yeah. 'Cause it was always like, are they, 'cause there was this mechanic and it was probably the funnest mechanic in a Mario game where like, so your team would be made of two main Mario characters. So you'd have like, you could pick like Waluigi and then you'd have like four Coopers or four Birdos or whatever, right? And then he could pick like Wario. And so there's this mechanic where you could,

choose to do a super shot with the main character if they had the ball. And it was basically like a quick time event and you had to nail it in like the perfect, like there would be like an arm that would swing and you had to hit it in the perfect zone. If you got it perfect, it would be a guaranteed goal. So it was always a thing of like, holy shit.

- Can he do it? And it was so hard because the timing is super fast. - It's fucking tiny. - And you have to, I think it's not even guaranteed unless you're past the halfway point. So you have to be past the halfway point to do it. And yeah, it's fucking, it's so good. It's so fucking good, dude. - But do you want to go through your three by three? - Sure, sure. - Okay, I got to ask first. - I know which one you're going to ask why. - What the fuck is Battalion Wars?

- Okay, all right. - I've never heard of that before. - I've heard of it. I've never even heard of it. - If you look up Battalion Wars, it's like one of the highest rated games on like the, at least this one is on the Wii and the first one is one of the highest rated games. Dude, it is like a really fucking good strategy game. - Oh really? - So it's like, so I really liked the online where it was kind of like, it's pretty hard to explain. - Is it like Tanks?

- No, so it was basically like you'd be given like a set amount of army. So you'd be given maybe like three tanks, four long range tanks, 10 ground units, and there would be a mission. And so the way that it worked is like you would have to try and take over or take over a base or push the enemy out without losing as many people as possible. But the online was really good 'cause it was essentially the same thing, but one person was defending a point and the other person had to push.

And it was really fun 'cause I got really fucking good at it when I was like 15 and I would just keep winning. I would like cheese people with strats and stuff. It's such a good game. I played so fucking much of that game. It's so good. - Because I've never heard of this game, right? And I look at this cover and I'm just like, this looks like some Chinese knockoff game. - No dude. - This is like the mom, I want advanced wars. And mom goes, we have advanced wars at home. - Can we zoom in? Can we zoom in on this?

- Battalion Wars is legit like a good game. - You can see the cover here right now. - Dude, it's good. Dude, it's so good. Check out gameplay of it, man. Okay, put it as an A. - I'm not, 'cause I'm just like genuinely curious why I've never heard of this game before. It's kind of like, I don't know how to explain it. 'Cause it's like, it plays somewhat similar to Halo Wars, but quite different. Like, oh, that's it as well. So I completely forgot one of the main mechanics of the game. So imagine a real time strategy where you can be like,

give me first person control of this guy. I'm gonna fucking get on the ground and do the work. So you can swap between the units of who you're doing first person. So, 'cause sometimes obviously the automation is like good. You can obviously be way more like in control and do more damage. So like the, you know, 'cause there's tanks, there's planes, there's whatever. Like the planes were okay, but if you went first person, you could really fuck people up with them. And you could dodge shit way easier and stuff like that. Dude, it's so good. Anyone who plays-

- Anyone who played Battalion Wars 2 will know it fucking slaps. - I'm not laughing, I'm just realizing that we went through my entire three by three, talked about it for an hour and not once did I use the term mechanic.

- That's all, gameplay mechanic. I'm just like, oh yeah, gameplay mechanic. That's a selling point to games, right? Didn't mention that once throughout my entire three by three. - One thing that's gonna be definitely, I guess throughout all of my nine is that like, I really think they have like super strong game mechanics. - No, no, no, I look at this and I'm just like, yeah, a lot of these have really strong gameplay loops. Like Guitar Hero, fuck, of course. - You know me, music isn't my thing.

- I like, I like beeps and boops, but Guitar Hero 3, I played the fuck out of that. - I think everybody who had that game played the fuck out of it. - Legit, I can't even remember the amount of times I attempted through the fire and flames. And like, just to like think that I was good and then watch someone on YouTube, like a 10 year old crush me. - It's like perfect at it. - Dude, like, cause that was always the game as well. Like no matter what person, like if they were like, I'm not into gaming, it's like, no, no, no. I've got Guitar Hero.

- All right, I'm down. - Yeah. - And so like that was just like such a great game. And also I really value being a game that is so good at getting people who don't game into it. Like I think that's so underrated. - I mean, who doesn't game nowadays though? - Well, I could get my parents to play Guitar Hero with me. - True, true. - Which is like,

I think of how many games you could, like my parents are gonna play fucking Battalion Wars 2. Like how do I, yeah, dad, okay, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna take first person control of this plane and then you're gonna push for the base. - No, my dad's gonna be like, fuck off, son. If he sees me clapping cheeks with this guitar, he's gonna be like, I wanna try that out.

And he did. And it was great. 'Cause the one time where you could be like, my parents give a shit about my hobby, but they don't. - They're just like, I'll humor you for a little while. - Okay, but the thing is, did you own Guitar Hero 3? Okay, because like- - Only one guitar though, I couldn't afford a second. - 'Cause here's the thing, like I love playing rhythm games. I love playing, especially like when we're at the arcade and everything like that, I love playing rhythm games. I've always loved the feeling of playing rhythm games. I've never like gotten to the point where I'm like, okay,

I'm going to own a rhythm game now. I'm going to practice a rhythm game. - I mean, when Guitar Hero was out, man, they were like, they were fucking everywhere. It was so easy to get like knockoff Guitar Hero ones and stuff. Like it was like before Rock Band came along is when the hype started dying, but like it was everyone had Rock, Guitar Hero. - Guitar Hero, yeah. I'm sad 'cause like I feel the fact that I started learning how to actually play guitar kind of threw me off playing Guitar Hero.

'Cause like I would like watch people play Guitar Hero and I'd play it as well. And I'd be like, this is really fun, but I could also just be playing a guitar. - It's probably the instrument people who don't like instruments. - Yeah, right, exactly. - And even now, like I still enjoy watching like that Twitch streamer who plays Guitar Hero custom songs. Like I love like everything about guitar just seems so fun. It's great. I think it's a banger. - Why don't you learn guitar then? - Honestly, it's fun. - What? - Why don't you learn guitar? - Fucking hate instruments.

- Like imagine that. - How do I get points? Where's the score system? How do I get ranked? It's none of this. - It's like people who play sports games hate playing sports right now. - Well, you know what other rhythm game could have been on here that I didn't play the rhythm game, but I played the other game of it was Donkey Konga. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Basically the Donkey Kong bongos on GameCube. - Jungle Beat, right? - Jungle Beat. I thought was way better than the...

the actual rhythm game one. - Yeah, yeah. - They had the rhythm game one which was like. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But then they had like a platformer that was using the bongos. Did you see this? - Yeah. - No. - Jumblebee was fucking awesome. - You would like platform and then like, so if you clap it at a certain thing and then if you like hit both, it would do a certain thing. - Oh no, I remember that. - It was so fun. - Literally replacing the controller with like

- And it played so well. Like you think it wouldn't. And then like sometimes the boss fights were like fucking clapping battles. It was so cool, man. The game was so good. That could be on here as well. - For me it was like only that one rich kid who had that game and everyone was like, "What you have it? "I'm coming over." - Well that was 'cause like I played the rhythm game one at my friend's house and I was like, "Mom, please get me this for Christmas."

And then I, like at the time I kind of regretted it because to me it was like, I paid like three times the price of a video game for just one game. And it was good, but I was like, oh, it's over now. - Yeah, because for me it was a choice between Jungle Beat or Taika.

And like I got Tycho obviously because it was like- - It was more for me. - I think my problem with rhythm games is that I have a hard time looking at it as anything but a party game, right? Because like I understand people getting into rhythm games, but I can not play a rhythm game for more than like a few songs before I'm just like, okay. - I could play for a while.

- I can play for a while. - I really like, I think one thing that rhythm games I quite like, even though I don't like instruments or care about music much is that I really like the, you can always like feel like you're improving when you replay a song or like when you're going through, you always feel like you're improving. - I'll tell you what like rhythm games are. It's,

it's feeling like you're playing an instrument without going through the boring parts. - Yeah. - Like my God, like imagine if you could just learn how to play guitar without having to do scales. - Yeah. - Exactly. - It's like, wait, there's only five buttons. - Yeah, I know. That's so easy. - You mean I don't have to like practice scales five times, like five times every time then just like. - One rhythm game I didn't put in my three by three but I could easily put it on there is Rhythm Heaven.

- You know that game on the DS? I played the fuck, I played that game so much that I snapped two DS styluses while playing that game. - Holy shit. - They can snap? I didn't know those things could snap. - Yeah, because I was like so fucking concentrated on it that like, I literally was like, and I just fucking.

- Your DS is just impaled like the stick comes out the other side. - Legit, I played like the reason why my original DS broke was because I played too much rhythm here. - Oh my God. - Because it got to the point where like my touch pad was like, you've damaged me like so much that the inside is just fucked now and nothing responded.

- Your DS is just like the anime character who's like gone through hell and just has been like battered and bruised. - No dude, my DS fucking like the touch pad on my DS just looked like Bucky's body. It was just like fucking shattered. It's like this guy's been through like a thousand walls. - Your DS has so much gunk.

- Yeah, oh dude, it was fucking, oh my God, that's so much fun playing Rhythm Heaven. - Any other questions? - I mean, everything else is- - Sonic Riders. - Yeah, Sonic Riders. - Listen, I know this is gonna get flat, right? I'm surprised this wasn't the immediate thing that I was giving flat for, right? - I'm just shocked there's a Sonic game on here. - Honestly, like, I don't know.

- I didn't give you flack because I was actually really close to putting Sonic Adventure 2 on my- - No, Sonic Battle Adventure 2? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That easily could have been on here. ♪ Running around at the speed of sound ♪ - Just for me giving my chows steroids. Like, go on, fucking drug him up, do the race. I love that, that was so fun. Yeah, I mean, Sonic Riders was the one game that, 'cause it came with my GameCube.

So when I bought the GameCube, it was when it was already dying and they were just literally trying to sell it with anything. So I got like a bunch of free games with my GameCube for like very cheap. And Sonic Riders was the one that I hated most that came with this game. I was like, these controls suck dick. - It is one of the most jank Sonic games. - It's like so fucking jank, right? And like the learning curve for this game, the mechanics seem completely like overkill for like a kid's game.

But then after like, I actually sat down and like just for like 20 hours, didn't understand the game and like eventually understood what was happening. This game felt so fucking clean. Like it felt so good. - I felt that way with the Kirby's air ride as well. Cause like for the first like 10 hours I was like, wait, it's not just a racing game. What the fuck is this? I have to like earn my ride and then go into,

- Right, 'cause there was like this glide mechanic where you had to jump in the other person's trail. It was completely jank and it would throw you out and stuff. And it was so jank. But it was probably the one game where my impressions on it completely 180'd after I actually put time into it and got good at it. And I was like, wait, this is a fucking clean game.

And I played it so goddamn much. I played this game so fucking much. - I'm just glad to know that I'm not the only one who has like a 3D Sonic game as like a guilty pleasure game. - Dude, yeah, it was a good game. - For me it was Sonic Heroes. - I could have put Sonic Heroes on there. - And I didn't put in my three by three just because like, if I did, I know people will be like, you put a 3D Sonic game on there? - No, dude, I could put Sonic Heroes on there, I'll defend it.

- I have no like fond memories of any 2D Sonic games, but it's the 3D Sonic games. I have fond memories of. - It's the Sonic Heroes theme, man. It's the theme song. - I remember I tried to play it. - Look, because there's one reason because I was a Nintendo kid through and through, so Sonic wasn't available till the GameCube, okay? That's why. - Exactly. - That's why.

- Listen, Sonic Riders is a good game. If you learn, listen, like if you watch people play it for the first time, they'll be like, this is fucking garbage. This is the worst game ever. But then when you see someone who's good at it, you're like, damn, that looks fucking good. No, legit, it's a good game.

- No, it is a good game, I played it. That's why I'm glad to know that like, I'm not the only one who's like, you know what? There are good Sonic games out there. - I'm sure Sonic Heroes, if I replayed it, probably jank as fuck. - Oh yeah, I'd probably hate the fuck out of it. - I remember that casino level, I fucking hated in that game.

But I enjoyed Sonic. And I remember you just keep dying randomly from stuff. - Yeah, it was one of the most, it was a shit game. - Yeah, I don't think I played Sonic Heroes, but I've definitely played some 3D Sonic games and I've actually enjoyed most of them. - I mean, what else we got? - Black Ops is self-explanatory. - Black Ops 2 that is.

I think even though I played- - I couldn't tell you the difference. - There's a massive difference. - Okay. - Okay. - Which one's the one where it literally starts off with the airport getting shot up? - That's Modern Warfare 2. - Okay, nevermind. That's my extent of knowledge of Call of Duty. - Dude, when that came out, that was such a big deal. - Oh yeah, it was a huge deal. - My mom, she'd already bought me the game and then she was like,

- Connor, I've heard about this thing in this game where you kill a bunch of people on an airport. I didn't buy you that game, did I? And I was like, no, no, no. You didn't buy me that game. She was like, oh, okay, good, good, good. No Russian. So yeah, Modern Warfare 2 is the one that I probably played the most. Modern Warfare 3 is one where I won a bunch of,

And then Black Ops 2 was probably the one I had most fun with and that I played competitively like in teams and stuff and I really enjoyed. It was so fun, it was so clean. That game, they like optimized it. It was like the best card, 100% hands down. The maps were the best. The multiplayer had like a good rank system which they'd never had before. I don't think they ever put back in. Like it was legit good. It was such a, it was just a fucking great game. Fantastic fucking game.

- Anyone who likes COD will tell you that Black Ops 2 is the best game. - Yeah, that's what I hear most of the time. It's like, it's either Black Ops 2 or Modern Warfare. - You're like, this is all noise to me. - It's all pew pew killer guy. - Is this how it feels when we talk about music? - Probably. - I'm like, cool. - Has it got the pew pew? - It's the most balanced, you know? It's just a great game.

- I put way too many hours and it's what got me into like competitive gaming. And I like really, that was like the first e-sports I started watching. - Oh yeah. - I just had like a really good tournament. - Okay. - But then all the fucking pro players like weird as fuck at that time. They were just like, yeah, it was weird. It was very strange. - And then I'm not surprised you have Time Crisis and Metal Slug in there. 'Cause it's like whenever we go to an arcade together and you have Metal Gear, oh not Metal Gear, sorry, Metal Slug or Time Crisis. - Metal Slug. - I was like, all right, see you later. - Metal Slug I've always just been obsessed with. - Is that the first one?

- I think Metal Slug X is like the best game overall. If you don't know what Metal Slug is, it's a Neo Geo game that was really popular in arcades and you can probably still find it in a lot of arcades. It's aged super fucking well. - Oh, it looks so good. - Like the sprite work on it for its time was like insane. Like, and it looks amazing. - It still looks insane to this day. - And it's got like some of the best fucking sound effects, the rocket launcher. I love that fucking sound.

- Missile. - Yeah, yeah. I love those things. You always hear those are like gaming, like .exe things. I fucking love those. Grenade. Like so good. Like the gameplay is so goddamn clean in that game. It doesn't overstay its welcome. It's like his six levels. Enjoy them, get the fuck out. - Would you ever enjoy Contra?

- Contra was really fucking difficult. - I mean, it was. - I think the reason why I don't like, I think Metal Slug 3 is like, - It's way too hard. - It goes from like, you know, level one and two in Metal Slug 3 from being, you know, a fairly challenging game to like level, I think four, five and six, just being absolutely fucking stupid. - I mean, I remember the first time you and I ever like game together, we played all three of the Metal Slug games back to school.

- Yeah, we did. - Like one gaming session. - It's not long. - It's not long. Like one and two especially, it's like, with two people who've played the game, you could easily breeze through it. And then we got to three and we were like, fuck this game, it's so hard. - Three, like there is, it is like, you have to play that game an absurd amount because,

even if you know where all the enemies are spawning and where they're coming from, it's like, it doesn't matter 'cause there's just so much bullshit. - It's literally bullshit. - It's complete bullshit. And they did it just to fuck with you and take your money. - I just realized there should have been another game on my three by three. I'm like, we're talking about this Mega Man X.

- I was thinking like side scrollers. I completely forgot how much I was obsessed with side scrollers at one point. - I was tossing up between "Mega Man X" and "Mega Man 2." - Right. - Yeah, just purely- - "Mega Man X" is just fucking, it still feels like anime, right? It's got such an anime storyline. But my God, the gameplay in that is clean as well. I forgot how much I loved hard games as a kid. Man, I already pussied out as I grew up. - Yeah, you did, John. - Easy mode only, please. 'Cause I'm like,

- Man, yeah, I remember I completed Contra, Super Contra, at least on the SNES. - Without the Contra code? - Yeah, without the Contra code, with my cousin. - Damn, hardcore gamer right here. - Yeah, I'm just like, what? And I remember completing Mega Man and that was really easy. What the fuck happened to me, man?

- Yeah, because I was exactly the same. Like I haven't beaten Contra without the Contra code. But like, I remember like how easy it was for me to beat like Mega Man 2. I could be like an hour and like, you know, I think last year or the year before I was like, I want to stream some retro games. Oh, I'll play Mega Man 2. Cause I played that like fucking crazy. Dude.

I got like 30 minutes in, I only beat like two like fucking Robo boss. I'm like, this game is fucking impossible. How did I beat this as like a 10 year old? - Patience man. - Yeah. - But like stuff with like Contra, like I never played as a kid. So when I play now and like just bullshit kills you, 'cause there's a lot of bullshit in Contra, right? Like I'm just immediately turned off from shit like that. This is just bullshit. - It's weird because I'm just like, this conversation has brought back so many memories about how,

how much patience I had as a kid. 'Cause I remember another game that was people complain about being super hard and super bullshitty was Battletoads. - It was the level with the bikes, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I still remember the level with the bikes and having to complete that and completing Battletoads. And I'm just like, man, I remember,

I think I just blanked it out because there was just so many hours of my life that were just some bullshit level. And I just, as a kid, you would just mind numbingly just like fucking learnt it through muscle memory. And I would not have the patience to do that anymore. - Well, 'cause you value your time. You're like, if there's some fight, because Battletoads, let's be honest, is bullshit. That game is full of bullshit. - But I fucking love it.

- I loved that game as a kid. - Yeah, because you can't play that now and be like, this is fantastic. - It's like Ninja Gaiden for me as well. - That game is just ridiculous. - I remember I almost beat that game as a kid. And I got to like, I think like the second to last level. Now I can't even get past level one. - Yeah, and I remember like, I'm trying to think back, how the fuck did I beat Mega Man X on the fucking SNES controller, right?

My God, I remember getting like cramps in Carpool Tunnel from like tapping the jump button on the wall. Like against some of the bosses, right? - At least it's not as bad as the NES controller. That thing was fucking awful. Sticks pointing in your hands. - Yeah. - I just think for me, Metal Slug is the best aged, just a best overall run and gun. - I think it's easily one of the,

one of the games that's like aged the best. - I feel like if you look at any like, any indie game that comes out now that is like a side scroller run and gun, it looks so inspired by metal stuff. All the sprite work is like identical. It's like the blueprint of like, this is how you make a clean run and gun.

It's Metal Slug, three is bullshit, but like one, two and X, I mean, X is just kind of two. But like one, two and X, I would highly recommend getting X. I think it's on Steam. One and two are also on Steam. - You can get all of them on Steam. - Yeah, go and get it. It's such a fun game. It's just great. - Especially when you play with someone else, right? - Yeah, yeah, it's so fun. It's so difficult as well.

- It's just a great game. I mean, it's clean. - Yeah. - Time Crisis, man. - Okay. - Time Crisis fucking like the original one, I think is such a goddamn gem of a game. When you go to an arcade, you see- - I still think Time Crisis is good. And the only reason I could never progress too far in Time Crisis was because I never had enough money. - Yeah. - Yeah, so like, I think once you get over that point of Time Crisis where you've beaten it a few times, you can beat the whole game, at least game one on one credit. Like pretty easily. - Really? - Yeah. - 'Cause you know when all the bullshit

it's coming. And to me when I used to play, 'cause like, you know, when you would go to an arcade, right? 'Cause I would stay in like France for like, I don't know, two weeks at a time. My parents would give me like two euros a day, maybe if I was lucky. - How did you complete the game the first time? Which is what I wanna know. - Yeah. - I've like, no matter what, I have always run out of money. - Yeah, I feel like the first time you played "Time Crisis", if you only had like two credits, right? - Yeah. - You could maybe get past, you know, maybe up to like stage two. - So this was like something over like years.

where it was like, I would always like see it in arcades and I would always pick it up. And then maybe if I had two weeks, I would play it like every day for two weeks. Or I would like, you know, and as well, I got to the point where,

- If you had your name on the high score, all of them. So I would go and try and take all 10 slots when I would go, when I would go to like a vacation point. 'Cause I would be there for like two weeks. So I'm like, oh, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take every single slot in this thing. But then, and so eventually what I would do is that I would be like, if someone was gonna play it, I would just like, I would just chill out and I'd be like, oh, that's me by the way.

And then they would be like, "Oh." - Whoa! - They would be like, "Oh, you wanna play with me?" I'm like, "Hell yeah, give me a credit." And they'd give me a credit. - Right. - And I could just play.

- You literally game the system. - No, yeah, but then it was bullshit 'cause some people, some of the systems when they pulled out the plug at night, like it would wipe all the high scores. That was like my worst nightmare 'cause I would get the high score, feel real good. I'd come back the next day and I'm like, where is it? Where is my high score? - My street cred gone just like that. - Yeah, I'm like, no. - How did you prove that that name was you though? That's what I wanna know. People just took your word for it?

- That's a good question. How do they do that? - I guess it's just the old system, right? People just took your word for it. - The old system. - I guess the moment I put the coin in, I started fucking just destroying everyone. They'd be like, "I think it's him." - It's the old speed run rules, right? It's like, "We don't need video proof. We trust that you said that." - Because if you're a rookie, right? They'd go like this, you know?

- I would just like, so I would like get the, I would get the thing and I'd like, and then like flick it off like that. 'Cause you're in time crisis, right? - This guy's good. - So yeah, 'cause the way I learned, right? I'm like, wait, the normal way of shooting, so if you,

I'm assuming most people who are watching this have seen or played a time crisis. If you haven't, it's the one where you put your pedal down on the thing and then you pop out to shoot. That should be enough to let you know. I mean, I assume if you've left your house, been to an arcade or anything or been bowling, you've seen this thing. It's fucking everywhere. - Basically it's the best arcade game you can play if you don't live in Japan or Asia. - And I realized right after a while, I'm like, right, if you're doing the whole, like holding it with two hands, pointing, shooting, your finger isn't fast enough. And the way the time crisis worked with points is that you had to,

like there would be this like a smash combo. But when you shot a character first, there was like a split second where you could keep shooting them with bullets to get more points and combo it. So if you shot someone once, that's it, you only got like 10 points. You could unload like eight bullets into one person. So what you'd have to do is, is when they would all pop up on screen, you had to get like max amount of points on each person on screen. So I would unload the whole mag into one character.

So that's how you had to be like- - A man just like discovered turbo mode. - I literally just learned the technique of like spamming this thing like this. I would like twitch my hand. So it'd be like, oh shit. And then I would do it for everyone on the screen. And so that way no one came close to beating me in school. And then I would remember the points where like, I think a time crisis one or two, there's a point where you get a machine gun and if you could like juggle the cover so that you could keep your combo even while going in cover.

So you could like juggle it to get an absurd combo. - This man at age 10 is optimizing games. - No, I was. So I remember this is what I- - Learning how to speed run time crisis. - And like literally like age 13, I was doing this. And then like, it was like, yeah. - Min maxing time crisis, let's go. - Yeah, 'cause I loved it. And then, you know, then you start playing time crisis three and four. So two was nice. Two was when they introduced like, sorry, am I going too in depth? - No, no, no, that's fine. - So time crisis one, all you had was the pistol and you could do boom, boom. Time crisis two, they started introducing like weird shit, like machine gun guns.

grenade, shotgun. You're like, all right, whatever, cool. Time Closed is three is where they start getting fucking weird with it and they start introducing all this dumb shit. Now we're on like seven and it's just garbage. Like it's shit game where you just get fucking shot. It's like House of the Dead now. - Well, you were playing five the other day and you said five is all right. - It's okay, but like they introduced like, I feel like they did what House of the Dead did.

Like where House of the Dead was an amazing arcade game. One was pretty challenging. Two was quite difficult. And they started adding a few things that were like, that's tricky, that's tricky that. And three onwards, they just started adding shit that would just kill you. Like unless you literally like perfect headshot everything. 'Cause you've played it, right? And there's times where you're literally hitting everything on House of the Dead in the arcade. - And it's just like, it's unfazed. - Yeah, you're just fucking dead. And it's like, this game fucking sucks dick.

"Fuck this game, you just took my money and I don't like it. I am a good gamer." - You're literally that kid in "Persona 5", you know the kid in the arcade who teaches you the gun moves? That's literally him. - I'm just sitting here and I'm just thinking, I don't think I've heard Connor talk more passionately about something since I've been friends with him. - That's "Time Crisis". - "Time Crisis" is the best game.

- And I also had it on PS2. So that also helped. - Okay, wow. That was the next stage up, right? - So I had "Time Gracious 2" on the PS2. And so when I went to the arcade, I was like, it's just like the simulations. - Been waiting to use that meme.

- It was literally like that. Cause I was like, I already know exactly when is the optimization. I know all the levels off by heart. - You're a fucking matrix like a fucking game. - Well that was the thing as well. Cause you were like, you were broke and you didn't have credits. I would legit, like it was the same thing with metal slug. I would be like, I would just go up to the kids and I'm like, hey, I'm really fucking good at this. If you give me a credit, I'll help you get really far. And they would be like, oh, okay, sure.

'Cause then it was a win-win. 'Cause even though I was doing all the work, they felt like they were getting an extra 15 minutes of fun where they would have got two. You know what I mean? - I mean, that's the thing, right? Where, I mean, I guess arcade games were the original pay to win. - Yeah. - Because I'd never met a single person who had completed "Time Crisis." 'Cause how the fuck does any kid my age complete "Time Crisis?" - Yeah, I would like,

I would like have a fit in my head if I even got hit once in time crisis after a while. 'Cause I was like, I knew where they all should have been coming. - This man's trying to no hit time crisis. - It was so fun 'cause after like you said, right? You're not supposed to. The games weren't designed for you to play it this much. But this is also why they started upping the difficulty of arcades 'cause people would just sit there all day and complete games on $1 and get 30 minutes when they should have been getting two minutes. And so that's why they started upping, you know, now it's like all the arcade games,

even the ones that used to be like pretty fair and used to feel good are just bullshit. Like the Mario Kart arcade game now, that game sucks. You get one race and it's over. - It's shitty. - You know, like if you were doing like Daytona back in the day, if you were fucking good at that game, you kept playing 'cause you kept getting to the checks points. But now it's like, you get one race, fuck off, that was $3. It's like, no.

Just 'cause you got to take a picture with me and put it on the character. You think that's enough to keep me happy? No, fuck off Mario, this is shit. - Yeah. Although to be fair, every time I see that and I'm with like three other people, I'm like- - They always wanna play it. You play it and then every time you play it, you're like, all right, that's it. - People wanna play it 'cause it's Mario Kart. - Yeah, and then it plays worse than the actual Mario Kart. How do they do that? It's supposed to be better. What the fuck?

I'm so passionate about arcade. 'Cause arcade games suck now. - See, DogVA, the fall of arcade games. - That's some good- - The rise and fall. - Yeah, the rise and fall. - Actually, you know what? - The absolute stain of arcade. - You know, I think we spoke about it on the podcast before, but Typing of the Dead.

- I hope it isn't in the one that closed down 'cause one of the game centers in Akihabara closed down and only one of them had Typing of the Dead. Which if you don't know what Typing of the Dead is, Google it. Yeah, that's good. The JoJo Battle Royale is okay. It's like an Unreal Engine mod. It's kind of shit. - There's no real arcade games now. Oh, the Mech one.

We even spoke about that, have we? - Oh, the giant mech. - The giant mech one. - That was fucking amazing. - That's fucking badass. - We don't know what it's called, but here it is. We know what it looks like. - You get to pilot a mech. Like you literally sit in the cockpit, put a seatbelt on and there's like gas pedals, drift pedals. - And it's like 4D cinema, so it actually moves

- It moves as you are flying about. So you are literally as close to a mecha pilot as you can possibly be. - And it's got ranked PVP. So you literally, like you all jump in the mechs with the boys and you can PVP against other players. - It's literally capture the flag. - And it's like domination from the cod I think. And yeah, you literally like, it's so fun 'cause when you smack down that thrust and drift pedal, the fucking,

The chair jumps back, it jumps back and then it's like, yeah, like, what is it? Like when a chain's going up on the rollercoaster. - Yeah. - Like drifting. - Yeah, yeah. - It's so good. - Like drifting in the air and just firing missiles at the same time. - Yeah.

- I'm just doing that with the boys, man. - You're like switch out the gun and reload the other one as you're shooting it. - Oh God. - Yeah, yeah. - We should go to an arcade after this and play it. - If you come to Japan, you've got to check this thing out. - This is like, everyone says rhythm games. No, this is the best arcade game I've played in Japan. Bar none. - Yeah.

- Is it Sega? - Yeah, it's Sega. - I've only seen it in a few like 80 centers though. - I saw it in a round one and I saw it in Sega, but like, yeah, it's actually insane. I think it's, is it $2 or $3 a play? - It's like, yeah, $2. - Not enough. - Yeah, it's $2 a play I think, but one play can last you, you know, like 15 minutes. - 15, 20 minutes. - I'd happily play like, pay like five pounds if it was like in the UK. 'Cause my God, you get to pilot a Mecha. - That's so cool. - Oh God. - I don't even know what's going on 'cause I can't read what the fuck.

the fuck they're saying. - Yeah. - Like, I love it. It's so fun. - I mean, I can read what they're saying, but I didn't give a fuck. It's not important to me. - All right, before we move on. - Okay, like I'm wondering why, okay, before we get to Halo Wars, I'm wondering why you put Apex over League. - All right.

- Right, okay. - Is this recency bias? - I think there's definitely a bit of recency bias. I don't know, for me, League of Legends was fun and I really, really, really enjoyed the time I had with it and it could easily be on here. I think Apex is on here just because like, I don't know, Apex made learning Japanese fun for me. - Okay. - Like, isn't that fun? - Yeah, 'cause you're actually using it, right?

- For me, Apex has been such a door opener right now. It's just like everyone's playing Apex right now. And it's so easy to be like, "Yo, play Apex, let's jump in." I don't know, just anyone, especially Japanese or VTubers, it's like, "Yo, let's play Apex, let's do it, let's chill out." I don't know, it's so fun. And I feel like even though I just started playing it recently, I have been playing it, I did start playing it at launch. And I feel like the game's only gotten bigger and better

And I feel like that's rare for games, especially battle royale. Like I feel like it's more popular now than ever. - Yeah, I would say so. - And it's fucking massive in Japan. - VTubers man, they just completely broke the system. - It's crazy. I mean, you know, it's crazy seeing how like when it came out, you know, the story of Apex is that they literally announced Apex Legends, I don't know if you knew this, a day before it came out.

- Oh shit, really? - Because what happened was is that it was made by the same people as Titanfall. So EA thought, so it's published by EA, but it's made by Respawn, the people who made Titanfall, who made Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 back in the day. So you have that clean FPS gameplay combined with a nutty movement of Titanfall. And yeah, so what happened was is that they literally were just like, "Oh, by the way, here's a new Battle Royale." And because they thought it was gonna bomb because it was made by the same people who had made Titanfall with no Titans in it.

And everyone was like, yeah, I'm not playing that. Where the fucking mechs? The mechs were the best part. But yeah, no, it was a surprise hit. It fucking blew up. The gameplay is so fucking clean. - I mean, from what I heard, Apex was just battle royales, but just was with every mechanic refined.

- It's so good, it's so fun. And you know, it's really like weirdly one of the most beginner friendly battle royales I think. - Yeah, what I wanna know is, has it gotten to a point where everyone's just really fucking good at the game yet and there's a meta and everything's broken? - The matchmaking is surprisingly good. Like when I play ranked, I really struggle like against people my own level. When I go in like normals, if I'm like playing with someone who's like got a really bad stats to like even us out, like I can feel like a God.

But you know, so. - So in other words, yes, but he's on the other side. - No, no, no, no, no. 'Cause I'm playing, you know, I play with some people who are like, you know, arguably have no hands. And they seem to have the time of their life. And I'm, you know, to me, I would be like, that's not fun. But they seem to, you know, they, again, people who, you know, 'cause it's such a position heavy game. It's not about mechanics. It's more about, like, okay,

are you standing out in the open and someone else is on the high ground shooting at you, you're probably gonna fucking die. But like, you know, you don't need to have like aim God CSGO shit. That's like, I hate that shit. Fortnite felt like that as well. Like I feel that like if you just have like some form of game knowledge which you can easily learn, you know, it's easy. And all the characters are really unique. It's really fun. Like, I don't know, it's great. I really think you guys should try it out. Try it out with me. Apex, Trash Taste Dreams. - Literally every episode. - Every episode. - I'm gonna keep saying it until it happens. Trash Taste Apex, when?

- It's good and legit. I've made so many new friends from it. - Week 47 of asking the boys to play Apex. - Yeah, right, literally. And so the other day I actually met up with people who I met up on Apex. I met on Apex, met up with two Japanese guys. - Oh really? - Spent the whole night trying to talk Japanese. It was very taxing, my God. I realized I was an hour into talking only Japanese and I was like,

fuck, I had to do this for like another four hours of like not being able to communicate. - It will do wonders though for your- - Oh no, it was definitely helping. Like I feel like I definitely have like the basics completely locked down. Like it's all muscle memory. Like I could just say shit, just talk nonsense, you know. - Yeah, it's good stuff. - Or chin, chin big, you know, all the stuff you need. - It's the only sentence that matters.

- Yeah, it was fun. It was just crazy to think that I met these guys from just chatting shit on a video game, literally just going into a lobby and screaming broken Japanese. And then I was hanging out with them. - That's cool. - Yeah, it was just chill. - It's all about the friends we made along the way. - And honestly, I have made friends- - Which you can't say about League of Legends. - Exactly. - I have made friends from League of Legends, but it just felt like- - I can't imagine making a friend from a guy you met in a lobby in League of Legends.

- Well, that's the thing. It was always weird friendships with them. Like with it, 'cause it was always like, we were the same rank. We played ranked together. And it was always this weird thing of like, that was what it was. And we were like, our friendship was tangential on the fact that we were both the same rank and we were good enough to play together.

But in Apex it's like, oh, you know, I play with a guy who is called Kyo-chan, he's like a 45 year old man from like West Japan who's fucking awful at the game, but he's really funny. And so like, that's like, you know, I like playing with him. - That's cool though. - And it's just like, there's no, it feels chill. It's a really chill game, but it can be a really intense game if you want it to be. And it's like perfect because it has like enough lows in it where you can just talk. And then when the moments where you're like fighting, it's like, all right, let's focus on fighting.

- Right. - So that's why it's on there. I legitimately think it's the best battle I've played. I've played so many of them. It deserves to be on there. It's a fucking great game, play Apex Legends. And finally Halo Wars, I'll quickly talk about this. I played, I have probably put more hours into any game here. Halo Wars is probably the game I put most hours into. - Really? - Why Halo Wars? - I don't know what it was. It was what made me fall in love with RTSs. That game was terribly unrefined and awful.

- I've never played wars, but that's all I've heard about it. That it was like extremely unbalanced. - I think it was the case of, I was very fortunate that my four, like I had three best friends and we all loved Halo Wars. So it was a case of every single day we just went home and played Halo Wars against other people.

And it was just like the perfect game to chat to and also be like, you know, all right, do this, do this. - Yeah, I really liked the idea of RTS games. I like, I mean, I remember playing Command and Conquer so fucking much. That was my RTS game. But I like, I've never gotten to RTS like more than just build a bunch of soldiers and then click on anyone who looks at you funny. That's like my tactics when it comes to RTS games. - I think the one thing that I really loved about Halo Wars is that it really,

did 2v2 and 3v3 well. I can't think of a single RTS game that has 3v3. Like, can you name it? It's always 1v1. And like, I find that like boring. Like the fact that I can be there with my mates and we can all back each other up and then like you kill one dude's army, fuck, his friend's army is literally coming to wipe you out. And then you're like, "Bro, bring in your army. Where you at, man? Where you at? What the fuck?" - That actually sounds really fun. - No, it's so fun. - I guess that's the reason I never played PVP

any RTS, even though I know there is there. I just played the campaign and I'm just like, I can complete the campaign, whatever. - And it's a chill game 'cause it's like the games were never more than 20, 30 minutes. They were normally 15, 10 minutes. So it was great because what would happen is like, you know, there would just be moments where your mate, there would be like all three of them would be attacking your mate and none of you are ready. And you're like, yeah, see ya.

- I'm just trying to think, did I play any RTSs? - No, I'm just realizing my three by three is a lie. Why is Red Alert 2 not on my three by three? Red Alert, Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 is like- - That's a good game. - That's a fucking amazing game and not many people remember it. - Halo Wars 2 is pretty good. You can play it on PC. It's pretty good. - Are the Civilization games RTF? - Yeah. - They're like turn-based. - It's like almost turn-based, right?

- I really, really like Civilization. - I played Civ 2 like fucking crazy back in the day. - I feel like it's in the category. - It's in the category. - It's just like a different style. - Like I play Civilization every now and again, 'cause you know when you get that feeling of just replaying a game every now and again. So I get that with Civ sometimes and I'm just like, I play one game, it lasts like eight hours. I'm like, okay, that's my one out the window now. I'm satisfied. - Honestly, Halo Wars is a great game. I'm sure if anyone played it,

- I would love to play an RTS that's like 2v2, 3v3. - We could play Halo Wars 2. - I mean it's 3v3, right? - I'm fucking down for Halo Wars, man. - You got a beast PC now? - Halo Wars 3 is- - Is it on PC? - Halo Wars 2 is on PC. Yeah, and it runs really well.

- I've gone so many games that I just, I know I'm gonna go home today and be like, okay, I'm downloading all these games now. - Time to replay all these 20 something games. - Well here's what we should do. We should all do like a day where we all just say like, let's all play each other's like choice of game together. - Yeah, sure. - We should do that. That should be fun. We'll do it. We'll stream it all, be a whole day thing. All right, should we move on to Joey's thing? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. - All right, prepare for one of the normiest

- Dude, I mean, you've already had my three by three. Okay. - Yeah, but look at this. - Bro, this is, there you go. - Okay, okay, okay. - Let me ask, shocked by any of the-

- So you're like a death below, like completely normie then. You haven't gone from "Final Fantasy VII." - Well, no, I think VI is like the second normiest choice. - You played "Terraria"? - Yeah, dude. - I didn't know "Terraria" was like up in your top nine. - Okay, "Terraria", I've dead ass. Like if you go onto my steam, I've dead ass played "Terraria" for about 500 hours. I was so into "Terraria" when it first came out. - We don't need to talk about "Persona" though, right? - Okay, yeah. - We've already talked about "Persona". - I don't really need to talk about "Breath of the Wild", obviously.

- Why Super Mario World out of all of the Mario's? - Okay, Super Mario World for me, okay, because a lot of these games, like especially the older ones, like Kirby's Nightmare in Dreamland and Final Fantasy VI and stuff like that. I got them as hand-me-downs from my cousin. - Yeah, me too, me too, me too. - So like basically all the Super Nintendo games and like, especially like Kirby games, especially,

Yeah, all hand-me-downs. And "Super Mario World" was one of the first like Mario games I had like properly sat down knowing it was a Mario game. - Yeah. - Like, you know, there's like games when you're like really, really young where it's just like, this is just a video game, but I don't know like what this is. It's just a fun thing that's on my screen. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Super Mario World was the one where I was like, okay, I'm playing this knowing fully well that this is a Mario game and that I love Mario games. - And you can't hate on that. That's literally like one of the best games of all time. - It is one of the best fucking platforms. Like it was a tie between Super Mario World for me, because we can only choose one game per franchise, right? So obviously for a Mario game, hard as fuck for me to choose. But it was a tie between Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island.

- Oh, Yoshi's Island, I fucking love Yoshi's Island. - I was like, both of them are like equal number one for me. - Right. - IGN top games of all time. - Honestly. - Except for Clan Ad. That's like Joey's like individual. - Clan Ad for me was just like, okay, that's what like really sold me on like anime games. - Out of everything on here that like, well, that will make it known that it's a Joey list, it's Clan Ad. - Yeah, it's Clan Ad.

- If you remove that, like I literally have no idea. - If you remove Clannad, it's like, oh, I see you were also born in the 90s. - This is like you typed in top Wii game, top PS5 game, top Game Boy game, top NSNES game. And then you've been like, I'll have those, I'll have those. - Yeah, okay. - Wait, which Super Mario is it where there's like,

There's a level where there's a sun trying to kill you. - That's Super Mario Brothers 3. - I had nightmares of that. - Really? - Of that sun. I couldn't beat it and I kept having nightmares about that sun trying to kill me. - That level is fucking hard. - Have you guys ever played the original Mario? - Yeah. - On the NES? - Yeah, yeah. - I think I've actually played every mainline Mario game. - Because fucking Nintendo re-releases it every fucking year and says, "Pay me 10 bucks for the same fucking game." - And I'm like, okay. - Did you play as a kid? - No. - Okay. As a kid, did you want to eat the fucking chocolate, the bricks?

- Was that just me? - No. - But like, yeah, as a kid, I remember I have a distinct memory of just looking at the bricks and just thinking, man, those look delicious. They kind of look like chocolate. - That is definitely like, I hope you didn't say that out loud 'cause your parents were like, oh God. Oh fuck. - We should take this game away. - Oh God. - All right, that's just me.

- Okay, but like much like Gaunt, right? I think my three by three is a little bit of a lie because there's a bunch of games on here because to me, I was like, okay, for me,

- Through and through, I was always a Nintendo simp. I was a Nintendo simp from the moment I got my first game console to today. But because of that, I feel I've kind of put too many Nintendo games on my three by three. - I mean, it's the first thing that came to your mind, right? - Yeah, but I would, okay. There's one game that I would fucking put on here on the Xbox and that's, do you know this game called SSX Tricky? - Of course. - Oh my God!

- I put so many hours into that game. - That was such a good fucking game. - Oh my God. - Dude, SSX Tricky, okay, for those of you who don't know, SSX Tricky is this snowboarding game, right? - Did you play Snowboard Kids as well on the N64 or was that just me? - Oh, I played a little bit of that. - Snowboard Kids. - Yeah, I played a little bit of that.

- I think it was the first time I saw SSX Tricky, 'cause I think my dad got it. Because like my dad was the one who bought the Xbox because he wanted to play like a bunch of like racing car games. And one of the racing car games that me and my dad fucking bonded over was Burnout 3. - That's a fucking, yeah. - Which is a fucking amazing game, which I would also put on my three by three. But like he also brought home this game called SSX Tricky. I'm like, I never fucking cared about snowboarding. I didn't know what the fuck this thing was. - Joey, we haven't seen snow. We live in Australia. Let's go and do snow sports. - No, legit. The first time I ever saw snow was in SSX Tricky.

- I played it and the moment you hear that fucking title screen music, I was like,

- Hell the fuck yeah. - Like to me, I'm just getting reminded, but SSX Tricky is on like the same level as Tony Hawk in my mind in terms of just addictive gameplay. - SSX Tricky, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2. - I never played any of these games. - Oh, so like SSX Tricky, I don't know. I think the one thing, I fucking optimized the fuck out of SSX Tricky because it was probably the one game where I was like, no, no, no, this isn't the perfect score.

I know I can fit one more trick into this job. - That's how you know when you're addicted to a game. - I know I can fit like one more 180 into this like trick combo on this one job. And I would just keep fucking playing this over and over and over and over again. I think I 100% it actually. It was probably one of the first games I 100%. - I think I was close to 100%ing it as well. - I mean, all of these games I have 100%ed. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - In terms of like Pokemon Silver, the original Silver, it's the one game where I've actually

broken the in-game timer.

Like I played so much of silver, right? - Yeah, tell me about that. - How'd you do that? What is the in-game timer? - The in-game timer, the max in-game timer is 999 hours. - That's reasonable. - Which is reasonable. It's like a thousand hours, right? But the only way I achieved that is because of like, you know, obviously you play through the game and then you're like, okay, well I've finished, I've gotten all 16 badges. What do I do now? Complete the decks. Okay, I'll do that. What's the step after that? Get every Pokemon to level 100.

"Okay, I've done that. "Get all the shinies." And I did that. - What's wrong with you? What the fuck? - I did that. - You did that to yourself? - I did that to myself because at the time, I was borrowing my friend's Game Boy Color. This was during the time where I had a couple of childhood friends lived nearby where we met each other often enough where it's like, "Can I borrow your N64? "Can I borrow your Super Nintendo?" Or whatever. So I never actually owned the Game Boy Color,

But I had Pokemon silver. I don't remember where I got it from. Maybe I borrowed it from a friend. - Probably like that. - Probably something like that. But like I borrowed the Game Boy Color enough times where I was like,

- And it was the only game boy color. - This is mine now. - Yeah, yeah. And also Silver was the only game boy color game I had as well. So it's like, whenever I saw the game boy color just sitting on my desk, I'm like, "Well, I mean, I could just fucking play this." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I kill some time. And as a kid, you know, you have no concept of time as you're playing a game, right? So it was like, so yeah, I just fucking was like, "Well, literally got nothing else to do other than I guess I'll just try and catch all the shinies."

- Oh my God. - And I fucking did that. - That sounds like torture. - And I maxed out the in-game clock. I was like, oh, 999 is the max. All right, I got it now. - Jesus Christ, Joey. - I'm telling you, like you think you're like, you know, Garnt thinks he's like, you know, once you're into a game, you get addicted to it. No, I get fucking addicted. - No, no, no, no. I know you do. You're on another level to me. - I'm like another level. And like Kirby's Nightmare in Dreamland was the first ever game I owned because the Game Boy Advance was the first console I owned. - I think I've played that.

- I've never played a single Kirby game. - Okay, this game was the game that got me into Kirby. And since then I fucking love every Kirby game. And like, I'm telling you like, if you're ever feeling sad, just play a Kirby game. It might be the most like childish. - Your therapist is like, "Yeah, so I'm gonna prescribe you a copy of Kirby's Dreamland." - Literally, you might think it's like childish and dumb and like fucking easy or whatever, but it is literally impossible to play a Kirby game and not be happy.

- Challenge accepted. - There is something about it. - Depression speed run. - There's something about it where it's like, I might be in the shittiest fucking mood and I'll play like 30 minutes of any Kirby game immediately happy. And like, I think that's why I liked playing it. 'Cause I was like,

I don't wanna play a game that makes me sad. I mean, later on in my adulthood, I was like, yes, I want- - Heavy rain. - Heavy rain, Metal Gear Solid, give me all of that shit. - Yes, I would like a bit of depression, please. - And I think again, like that's another reason why I like played a lot of like Animal Crossing, for example, or like, you know, again, like Pokemon, it's like you can't- - You'd put Animal Crossing in like the top nine in your life? - Yeah.

- Damn. - Damn, okay. - Because- - Like this one in particular. - Wild, wild, yeah, honestly. Wild world specifically because I was fucking obsessed with the DS and this was one of the few DS games. - Oh, this is the DS one? - This is the DS one. - I was gonna say, 'cause I heard a lot of like, you know, now that people have like calmed down about Animal Crossing,

Animal Crossing than the first one. I've heard a lot of people being like, you know, it is good, but it does feel like it's lacking in a lot of ways and that they're adding in the functions that were in the previous ones. - Literally all the add-ons that they're currently adding out, it's all in Wildwood. - This is gonna sound so boomer or not boomer, but like, what is the point of Animal Crossing?

- Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm trying to understand why there's like anti-vaxxers when I'm watching. I hear what you're saying, I get it, but I'm seeing it and I'm like, I don't get it at all. - I totally get people, which is why I was really shocked at how popular the newest one got.

Because to me, Animal Crossing, a lot like Harvest Moon, I always thought was like that one niche series where it's like, if you weren't into it from the beginning, doesn't matter how many new games they bring out, you'll never get into it. - I mean, like the more people talk about it, the more I'm just like, well, this is just a pay your mortgage simulator. - So I watch it and I'm like, okay, so you go hit that rock and then you get some stone, okay. And then you go and talk to a guy who gives you a recipe for something that you didn't want.

And then you go and make that thing and it's like a cabinet that you might not need. And then I'm like, and then I'm confused. - If you don't want it, you can sell it. - And then everything is just seems so slow. And of course it's Nintendo. So shit is just unnecessarily complicated and complicated. Like I saw someone going to like someone else's island and it took like a minute of like,

of like cut scenes to go to someone's island or something. And then like everything just seemed slow in it. And I was like, why is this fun? - But I think that's the entire point of Animal Crossing. It's supposed to be slow because it's not supposed to be like, I feel- - I hate games that make me wait. I hate games that make me wait. Like it's artificial waiting. - It's the slice of life of video games. - It is 100%. It is like Animal Crossing, Sims, fucking, I don't know.

- I get the Sims though, right? Because you're kind of like, you're kind of trying, you're kind of like living a life that maybe you couldn't like live in real life. - You know what's really weird? I never got into the Sims. - I never got into the Sims either. - I always thought Sims was really boring. - Yeah, same here. - Which is weird 'cause I'm an Animal Crossing fan. - 'Cause the thing is I really like simulation games, but I've never, like never a life simulator game. - You know what it is? You know why I never got into the Sims? - Why? - 'Cause it wasn't cute.

- Honestly, I understand that. - Honestly. - You look at Harvest Moon, you look at Animal Crossing, you're like, that's fucking adorable. - I was never into Sims, but like when I started voice acting, and this is a weird tangent. Like I started seeing Sims voice acting project everywhere. People making their own movies in Sims. This was a huge thing. - Oh yeah. - Like in cinema? - Yeah. And I was just like, what the fuck? This is ugly and it looks dumb. And it's like the animations of Sims like,

And then they would be, you'd have to like voice act to it. And I'm not auditioning for that shit. What the fuck? It's so bizarre. - I feel like that's part of the old age of the internet. There's some campiness to it that I feel like has its own charm. - Absolutely. - They would be like, it's like this Oscar worthy drama performed via Sims animation. And it's like, what the fuck? - But I think that's the whole appeal, right? Because when Animal Crossing first came out,

I think I've read this somewhere and correct me if I'm wrong internet, but I think the whole appeal of Animal Crossing was it was supposed to be marketed towards housewives in Japan who wanted something to do as their husbands or significant others were out working all day. That's literally how they marketed it. Because it was like, it was a non-challenging game.

- No, literally it was like, it was a game where it was like- - Are you tired of being in the kitchen all day? - Yeah, literally. It's like, because it's so not challenging and also it's non-stressful. It's like, it's a game that like literally gets all your stress off because you forget about everything in your real world where you can just focus on a completely separate, just,

there are no stresses or no, I guess like bad things to happen with like any consequence whatsoever in this world. So it's literally Nintendo was like, I'm gonna create a distraction for stressed adults and call it Animal Crossing. - Because I remember my first and only experience with Animal Crossing was the original Animal Crossing on the GameCube. And the only reason

I knew about it, right? Was because I think for the longest time it just wasn't available in the UK. Like it was only available, like they translate it but it was only available in the US. And I had heard about it from like this Nintendo gaming PC. Oh no, no, no, no gaming magazine, gaming magazine, gaming magazine. That's what I meant to say.

the Nintendo gaming magazine. And they were like, it just got like super good reviews. And I'm just like, holy shit, this must be a banger of a game. Every fucking review is giving us- - Chainsaws. - Every review is giving us five out of five. And I'm just like, holy shit, this is a must get game. Why is this not available in the UK? So I literally had to like look up some like import websites and like,

- No seriously, like I had to import Animal Crossing from the US, buy like a specialized import disc where like, because- - Region lock. - Yeah, because old GameCube games were region locked. So you couldn't just put a US disc into a UK device. You needed a special disc that you needed to insert into the GameCube to region unlock it so that you could put Animal Crossing into it. And so I had to research and do that

with a very limited budget because I didn't really have much of a budget to work with back then. But I had saved up and I had bought Animal Crossing and I was just like, this is gonna be amazing guys. This is gonna be an amazing game. I've imported this game which is fucking expensive to import a game. And I bought like extra hardware on top of that just so I could play the game. 'Cause every review said it was amazing. And then I started playing it and I'm just like,

"When's the gameplay kicking?" I was like, "Okay." - It's an awfully long cut scene. - Yeah, yeah. I was like, "Okay." - Your poor thing gone. - Okay, I was picking apples. I'm just like, "So the gameplay is gonna kick in sometime." I'm gonna have a point to why I'm doing this. 'Cause I expected it to be on the same level as like Pokemon or stuff like that when I'm catching stuff or I'm like, I'm going on an adventure. And I'm just like, "Okay."

surely when I pay off this mortgage, that's when the gameplay will kick in. So I play Animal Crossing and I fucking pay Tom Nook back or whatever the fuck his name is. I pay off my mortgage 'cause I'm just like, there must be a reason why every game, every magazine is giving this five stars. Pay off my mortgage and then the game just continues. - And then Tom Nook's like, here's another mortgage. - What's interesting is like,

Okay, because you like games like Banjo Kazooie or like JRPGs where there's like a whole like collect, like a collecting element to it, right? - You like linear games more than open world and stuff like that? - I do like linear games more than open worlds.

- It's funny because I feel like I do like the idea of open world games, but if I'm gonna sit down and play something, then I'd much prefer linear games. - Right, because one of my favorite aspects of Animal Crossing personally is like the whole like catching fish and bugs and collecting all the artworks and collecting all the furniture. So like it's basically the collecting portion of it. Whereas a lot of other people who play the game, you know, enjoy the whole like, you know, DIY, you know, creating your own amazing looking town, amazing looking house kind of thing. To me that's like second.

- Yeah. - Number one for me is definitely like, I need to complete my fish index. I need to complete my bug index. - Why? Why? Why do you want to do that? - Because I got that love from playing all the JRPGs.

- And obviously six is up there because like there was that for six for me as well. But like, I think the reason why I picked six and I think why Final Fantasy six is my favorite, not only Final Fantasy game, but my favorite JRPG ever is because like it was the first game where I was like, this is a work of art. Like this is like not just a game. It's like the gameplay is like cool. You know, I've played all the previous Final Fantasy is like four and one and shit like that. The gameplay is basically the same.

But six was the first time where I was like, I didn't know story could be this good. I didn't know game music could be this good. I didn't know you could have this much immersion in a game.

And I got to like the fact that, you know, people still talk to this day about like the final fight scene, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Of Final Fantasy VI. - Like Final Fantasy VI, I feel like it's overshadowed by Final Fantasy VII, but everyone I know who's played Final Fantasy VI holds it higher than Final Fantasy VII. - I've always said the true Final Fantasy, that's like VI is the true Final Fantasy fans pick. - Yeah, yeah. - Right, because it's like, you're not,

persuaded by like the graphics quote unquote because this was the last 2D Final Fantasy. - Sorry, seven is Roblox. - Yeah, seven is Roblox but people still put it on this fucking like pedestal of graphics, right? It's like, what are you seeing? And like, you know,

- Don't get me wrong, Seven's also a good game. I also like Seven, but Six was, I don't know, there was something about it where it was like, this game could look like absolute shit. And the story and the music and everything, just the immersion of getting into this world is so fucking well done. Where it's like, I don't care how this game looks,

To this day, the fucking battle theme, the decisive battle theme from Final Fantasy VI gives me a fucking hard on. Every time I listen to it, it's like Persona 5 and Final Fantasy VI easily have the best fucking battle theme music of any game. - I mean, I can't comment really. I haven't played any Final Fantasy, so I feel bad. I can't judge you. - There's a lot of Final Fantasy I could have put on. - We've talked about hating turn-based battles. - I am regretting not putting, I wish I put RuneScape on my list now.

- Oh yeah, I'm surprised RuneScape wasn't on your list. - I played RuneScape. That was like the first game I ever like had a membership for. Actually maybe Club Penguin. - Yeah, Club Penguin was the first one for me. - Where's Club Penguin on my list?

- Dude going on those fucking tubes down the snow slope. - Tipping the iceberg. - The CIA agent. - Bro, you're tipping the, oh God, yeah. RuneScape like definitely like when you say immersion in the world, man, I was so into those fucking quests and shit. - Oh yeah. - Going to like Monkey Island and stuff, oh my God. - So good. - I should put RuneScape on my list.

- I completely want to remake my three by three after talking to you guys about it. - I could honestly make a three by three of like each console. - Do you wanna talk about Terraria at all? - Terraria, okay, Terraria for me was like, so when it came out, I had already like known about Minecraft because Minecraft obviously came out before Terraria. - Why is Minecraft not on here in Terraria? I thought you liked Minecraft more than Terraria. - I think Minecraft for me is kind of like,

I like it and it's a game that I can always come back to, but I don't think I was like as heavily into it as I was with Terraria. 'Cause I think Terraria came out when I was in maybe like middle school or high school or something. And the only ever time where I would spend

like I would not sleep and be in like a fucking Skype call with my friends in high school was playing Terraria. Like there were so many nights where after school, you know, we'd be on the bus home and we'd be like, all right, we're playing Terraria after dinner, yeah? Like 7:00, 8:00 PM. Yeah, all right, cool. We all get on a Skype call and we fucking play Terraria till like 6:00 AM. Like, all right, see you in school in two hours. Like I had so many nights like that playing Terraria. I don't know why. I could have easily done that with Minecraft to be honest, but I think it's because

- I don't know, there's something about like side-scrolling games that just tickle my fancy. - It looks fun. Every time I see Terraria, I'm like, yeah, that looks like fun. - It's really, really fun. - I mean, was there a point to Terraria?

- Is there a point to Minecraft? - It's kind of like the point of my, I mean, there is actually like a story where it's like, you have to go through and like, there's like a bunch of story dungeons kind of thing that you have to discover. And there is an end game. - And it adds a bunch of content for free, right? - Oh yeah. - Everyone's always like the Chad Terraria DLC for free. - Yeah, exactly. - I think I have Terraria. I think I paid for it. I just never played it. I don't know why. - It's really, really fun. And it's like Minecraft for me as well, where it's like, if I just need like a game to just kind of

mindlessly play and just relax to, then I'll either put a Minecraft tutorial.

- Other than that, it is the most vanilla three by three I've ever made. - I mean, I totally understand why it's your three by three. This is very much a Joey three by three. - These are like nine games that I can always come back to. And it's probably the most amount of time I've ever spent on any game. - I wrote down a bunch of other games that I wish I could have put on. - Yeah, I think I did too actually. - Borderlands 2, I thought was really fucking good. League of Legends. - Oh, I put Gary's mod on.

- Maybe Portal 2, Mario Party 2. - I'm surprised nobody put Mario Party here because I wanted to talk about Mario Party. - Mario Party 2. - With that story mission, like the challenge. - Hands down the best Mario Party. - The amounts of blisters I've gotten from Mario Party, man. My God, whoever designs

- Sick fuck, sick fuck. - Yeah, whoever designed the N64 controller, like he just hated humanity. He woke up and he chose violence, man. - Yeah, he would like put it into games where I'm like, I'm sure there's better solutions. Like there was like a rowing down a raft thing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The man just saw an ergonomics book and just set it on fire.

- Yeah, because like I said, with the rowing one, the mechanic was you had to go this way if you wanted the boat to go this way or go the other way if you wanted to go that way. I'm pretty sure that's the fact, I might be wrong. - I think so. - And I'm like, you could have just done literally anything else. Like why did it have to involve spinning? - You know there's like L and R. - Yeah, like anything else could have worked.

- I think my favorite Mario Party 2 mini game was, I think it was on Mario Party 2. It was the one where you have to like, there was like, it was like Thwomp's Domino. - I love that one. - Oh, that one. - You have to fucking, no, you have to like mash eggs to like knock down as many like thwomps as possible. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I love the one, the skateboarding one as well. - Oh yeah.

- The blow up the balloon, like as full as you think it can go. - Oh, that was a good one. - That was a good one. - I just love the fact that like- - Fuck the go-karting one. The go-karting one fucking sucks. - So what I love about two is just that it doesn't fuck around. It does not hold your hand. It's like, if you fuck up, you fuck up. - Yeah, so good. Pokemon Colosseum. - Oh, Pokemon Stadium for me. - On GameCube, the one with the story. And we could catch other people's Pokemon, the dark Pokemon. - I got super into Pokemon Snap.

- Pokemon Snap was- - There's a new one coming out. - I know, I know, I know. - Oh, it's out today. - Oh, it's out today? - Yeah, we're recording on the 30th of March. - Oh, fuck. - Wow, way to spoil that. - Let's go. - Professor Layton, I actually really liked those games. - I played the first one. It was actually pretty good. - I really liked Professor Layton. And then I had an honor to mention for the worst fucking game I ever bought in my life, and I completely regret it, Wii Music.

- What? - You've ever seen this game? - No. - Fucking garbage game. You had to buy it with a controller as well. So it was like 90 bucks when you were a kid. So I asked my parents for it, 'cause I was like, wow, look at Shigeru Miyamoto on stage fucking waggling a thing. You get this game and literally to play the instruments, you just like waggle a controller and it sounds like shit.

And like, that's the whole game. - I've never heard of it. - I'm gonna show you later, you're gonna be like, fuck. - Oh, is that the one where you have to like conduct? - You can conduct and it doesn't work very well at all. - I think I've seen videos of it. - And then there's one where you like can play a trumpet and all you do is just press the button and hold the Wii remote like this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I've seen that. - And then there's one where you play guitar and you just fucking, it was garbage. - I've seen meme videos of it. - Shit game. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- For me, "Horizon Zero Dawn." I mean, I feel that self-expansion. Anything with a good story and good characters, "Fire Emblem: Three Houses." - I put "Fire Emblem Awakening." - Oh, okay. - Yeah, that one was really good. - I like the gameplay more than the story in "Fire Emblem." - Yeah. - I mean, the reason I put "Three Houses" on is because I'm eh about the gameplay 'cause it's turn-based, but it was just "Fire Emblem" with persona.

And I'm just like, this is everything I need. Like this gives me a reason to play through the game. Metroid Prime, fucking incredible. And that was one of the few games where I was totally invested in the world. And it went again, it went again,

went against what I said before because you had to kind of figure it out yourself. But the gameplay of that was so good that I wanted to. - Yeah. - "Walking Dead" season one, I mean,

- That's the Telltale game. - Wow. - That was, I mean, that was just, that was just a good story. - It was good and then it became brah. - I mean, it wasn't really a game. It was just a good story. - For me, Okami is up there. That was really fucking good. Obviously I said Rhythm Heaven, Link to the Past, Wii Sports, Smash Bros Melee. - Obviously. - Yeah, of course. - Obviously.

And then like recently, like I recently just played like the two Bayonetta games. Those were really fucking good too. Honestly, there's too many. Why do we have to just confine it to nine? - Well, 'cause you gotta have something to talk about. - I could have made like a five by five. - But none of them are Sonic Riders. - What I've realized after doing this episode is that there are so many games that I love that I just did not remember.

because I go back to my comfort picks, but man, there's a lot of games that- - What's the one game that we're all gonna, like if we had to pick one game after today that we're gonna go back and play? - Red Alert 2.

- Honestly, you didn't mention the soundtrack of SSX Tricky. - So good. - 'Cause the amount of time- - It's tricky, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, it's right on top, it's tricky. - That's what made that game so good to play, man. 'Cause I realized, the reason I freaked out was because for the longest time, I couldn't remember why I wanted to learn snowboarding so bad.

I had just thought that snowboarding seems cool. I would like to learn snowboarding. - Are you telling me you didn't listen to the theme as you were learning to snowboard? - I did not. - Missed opportunity. - You had just reminded me. SSX Tricky is the sole reason why I wanted to snowboard so bad. And that's why I'm just like- - Yeah, it's like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 was the reason why I wanted to learn how to skate. - Yeah, yeah. I just blanked out that memory of my life. My fucking God. - It's such a good game.

- It wasn't on any of our lists, but I really wanna play theme park world. - Dude, you guys have sold me on that. - I might stream that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I bet you guys would invest. - So many games to stream. - Yeah, definitely get your boys to play Halo Wars with me. - Yeah, yeah. - For sure. - I mean, like, I think we've gotten a good taste of what our taste in video games are. - I wonder, who are you more like viewers? Are you more of a Garnt, Connor or Joey? I wonder. - Yeah, let us know down in the comments. - Who has the best taste and why is it me?

- Why is it Sonic Riders? - Why is it Sonic Riders? - Battalion Wars 2, why is it the best game? - Sonic Riders is a good game. - It's fucking good, I'll fight anyone. - I love how this has probably been the most civil episode regarding our taste. - It's like the anime, your dog shit gaming. Ah yes, you raised great points, Garnt. - Yes, Sonic Riders, I totally respect your opinion. - How did I not get more shit for that? I thought I was gonna get fucking dunked on for that.

- I think it's because me and Joey aren't true gamers. - No, you aren't true gamers. - We're too casual for this shit. - We're too casual. But hey, let's give a special thank you to our patrons.

- Look at them. They're all these beautiful people. - Wonderful. - Gamers, gamers, pro gamers. So many of them. - Had to throw in one Nakey Jakey reference. Just had to do it. - Of course I did. - But hey, if you'd like to support the show, then make sure to go over to our Patreon, patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our faces, listen to us on Spotify. - Yeah.

- There's nothing else to say. Go game. - Go game. - Goodbye gamers. - Hope you're listening to this while playing every game we mentioned for optimum gaming experience. - Honestly. - You've just dropped the cartridge when we mentioned the game. - Yep. - All right. Well, I guess, yeah, that's it. There's nothing else to say. - See you later gamers. - Bye. - See you gamers. - No wait, rise up gamers. - Rise up. - Rest gamers, rest.

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