Roasting our WORST Takes on Anime | Trash Taste #21
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- Welcome back to this episode of Trash Taste that you just joined. So not welcome back with my boys today, Joey and Garb. - Welcome to this episode of Trash Taste. - Welcome back. - Welcome back to Trash Taste. - As you should with every Trash Taste episode, you should go and watch the previous episodes in order without break. - We have a watch order. It goes one, then two, then three. - Ooh, controversial. Are you gate keeping Trash Taste?

- What if I wanna watch episode four and then go back to episode one? - Bro, you're not a real fan. I mean, you gotta start from part one and then part two all the way to part 20. - And then watch halfway through part three. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jeff. - And you're a real fan if you see the OVA special episodes, then we know if you're a real fan. - If you don't know what we're talking about, don't worry about it. - Sorry, sorry, Jeff. - This is bullshit. - What are we talking about today?

- I don't know what we're gonna talk about today, Joey. - We hardly ever know what we're gonna talk about. - Yeah, I feel like we have a few ideas we wanna do, but we'll save the special ones coming up. But I mean, yesterday, I'm gonna tell you a little story, boys. - Okay, yeah, it's Connor story time. - It's Connor story time. - We're getting traffic, Connor story time. - I went to the DMV.

- Gather around the campfire, oh my God. This is already sounding horrible. - This is not a campfire story. - This is already sounding horrible. - So as you guys know, none of us have the ability to drive in Japan, but we all have the licenses in our own respective country. - Yes, yes. - And I thought, well, one of us needs to do it.

I'll do it. I like driving, Garnt hates driving and Joey's just Joey. So Joey just stands there being like, I don't wanna do anything. - I'm healthy. - Joey doesn't wanna spend a whole day at a DMV. - No. - And more probably. - My relationship with driving is that it literally serves a purpose.

Like I don't care if I can get from point A to point B in a way that's like other than driving or someone else can drive me. I don't care if I have to drive, I'll fucking do it. - I can afford an Uber. - I'm convinced that you wanted to become a rich person just to get a chauffeur. That's like eventually. - That's the dream. - That's the dream. Okay, I don't hate driving. What I hate is,

- Parking? My God. - Just like at all? - The thought of parking, yes. 'Cause I suck at parking, okay? I barely passed my test when it came to like parallel parking. The thought of parallel parking gives me nightmares. Like I wake up in a cold sweat and I'm like, what if the car doesn't fit? And I make a fool of myself, like spending 10 minutes trying to get into the slot. - Because everyone's been on the other end, right? Where you're trying to watch someone parallel park and they're just like, come on, it's not that hard. And then when you actually go to do it, it's like,

Oh, it's that hard. - I somehow nail like the hard parking and then take 15 attempts for the shittiest, easiest parking. When there's like a hundred people around me just watching me, like really embarrassing. But yeah, I wanted to get my license 'cause you know, I wanted to have the options open. 'Cause I feel like you can still explore a lot of Japan without a car.

- Once you're outside of Tokyo, you pretty much need a car. - It comes a little more difficult, especially if you wanna really explore a lot. Like if you wanna stick to the main tourist stuff, there's buses and stuff, you'll be fine. But I wanted to drive and I mean, nothing goes better with my beep boop Daft Punk music than driving. I love driving with music, man. It's so like smacking that wheel, you know? - What? Smacking that wheel all the time? You're like a dad.

- Yeah, man, I love it. I love all of it. So I thought, you know what? I'm gonna get my license 'cause if you have a British license in Japan and a select few of the countries, a lot of European ones,

they said like America, but only Hawaii and Alaska. It was like, so only Hawaii and Alaska can do it. If you're from any of the countries where you don't, from those countries, you have to do a test as well. - Why Hawaii and Alaska? - I have no idea. I don't think it was Hawaii and Alaska. It was Alaska and some other country, some of the state. Which is really confusing, 'cause I'm pretty sure, don't they all drive on the same side of the road? - Yeah, I thought so. 'Cause the reason why American- - Maybe there's something we don't know. - Yeah, 'cause the reason why Americans have to do a driving test is because we drive on the other side of the road, right?

- Does Alaska drive on the same side of the road as Japan? Alaskans, let us know. - Yeah, so I had to go to the DMV and I knew it was gonna be a stressful process 'cause it always is with any driving. - I mean, that's just universal, but I can only imagine how stressful it is in Japan. The extra layers you have to do. - Right, right, right. Because you're like, it was already hell in my own country. It's probably gonna be hell again in Japan times two. And I had to bring a translator with me. So it was just awful. - I'm so glad the translator was not

- I was gonna ask Joey, but then another friend offered and I'm like, - But then I was like, oh, you're on a DMV. Sorry, I'm busy. I'm busy that day. I can't, I'm not that man. - So first I gotta ask, how long were you there for? - I got there at 8:20 in the morning. - Why so early? - So, - He said to line up. - Yeah, so right now, because I'm not sure if it's 'cause of COVID, but right now only 10 people are allowed to get a foreign license a day.

- In the whole prefecture. - Wow, so it's like first come first serve. - Yeah, so whoever's at first gets it. If you don't, you have to come back at 2:30 and wait, but they give out the 2:30 slots at the 9:00 AM. So I was in the 2:30 slot.

- Oh shit, Jesus. - So I queued up at 8:20. I was told on the website it says 9:30, get there at 9:30. And then I called them up and I asked, "Hey, what time should I get there?" They said, "Get there for like eight." So I got there 8:20 'cause I thought, "Oh, no one's gonna be there." There was already like 14 people lined up when I got there. And so I was in the second bunch. So they only give out 10 licenses a day in the whole prefecture, which is like millions of people for foreigners. And it's like, what?

- How is this a thing? Why only 10? Like they just do the first 10, like go home. - At least it wasn't like the bullshit, like, you know, when they did like event gotchas and stuff like that. It's like, here's a ticket and if you win the ticket, you have a chance to get in. - Well, I'll tell you more about the story. - Okay, go on. - So it's like an hour away from me. So I have to get up at like 6:00 AM, which is way over my like comfort zone. I can wake up at eight and be fine.

- Before 7:30. - I feel like shit the whole day. So I get there and we line up and then I have to wait an hour to get my ticket. So I have to wait an hour to wait more. So then I went to Coco's Diner, which is like Coco H-Brand. Went there, stayed there for three and a half hours. - Jesus Christ. - Came back to the place, waited another hour, finally got to go in. As I'm going in,

this couple is like screaming at the employees. Like what the fuck or something in Japanese. I remember some of it from anime. So they were saying the bad anime words. And I was like, I was like, that's a nabby. I was like, what happened? He's like, apparently he didn't have the right documents. But before we went in, they gathered us all around and were like, hey, some of you are gonna be rejected today for no reason.

- They literally said that. They said, "We might reject you and not explain why." And I'm like, "What?" - What is this YouTube demonetization? - What do you mean? I've come here all day. And you have to bring like so many fucking documents. You have to get like your license translated at a different building. Wait a few days for that. Go to the ward office, which is another building. Get proof that you live where you say you live. Bring your other license, your passport, literally every single documentation that you were ever a person to begin with.

And then they grilled me for like an hour, like asking me- - Asking what? - Well, so a part of to get the foreign license, you have to prove that you were in the country where you got your license for six months after the fact. So I brought tons of paperwork proving that I was in the UK at the time when I got it for six months. And they just kept grilling me and asking me pointless questions what I thought.

Like they asked like, did you have like a provisional license? Which in the UK and I think in America as well, Australia too? - Yeah. - You got a license before the actual license. They're like, did you have one? I'm like, obviously I had one. I had to drive. - Who doesn't? - That's part of the official process. You need a provisional before you get a full license. - I don't think a lot of countries would let you get the full thing without doing it. And I said- - I'll speak about Thailand driving. - So I'm like, yeah, of course I had that. And then they're like, how long did it take you to get your license? I'm like, why?

"What do you mean, how long? "Did it take like a week "or did you do lessons over a long time?" I was like, "I did lessons over a long time." And they're like, "Oh, how long did you have the provisional for?" I'm like, "Why are you asking? "Who cares? "Who cares how long I had it for?" - Who cares? You got the full license, right? - Yeah, I'm like, "I had it for five years." And she's like,

And then she asked, why did you have it for so long? I'm like, why does it matter how long? Because in the UK we don't have ID. We don't carry around ID. So most people get the provisional license even if they don't intend to drive. - Just as a form of ID. - So I'm here explaining like a cultural difference to her. - So what did you say? - I explained that. I'm like, in the UK we don't really have ID so people will get the ID. - But that's what Japanese people do as well. - Is it real? - Yeah, there's a lot of like- - Why am I being cruel to you?

- Because in Japan, a lot of people are like known as paper drivers, which means they have the license, but they don't have it to drive. They just have it as a form of ID. - In the UK, people get provisional licenses because we use licenses to prove that we can get into bars and parks.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's pretty much the only reason we get provisional licenses. - Yeah, so I had to wait an hour and I was like, "Cool, it's all going well." She seems to be happy with it. She's like, "Yeah, okay, yeah, no problem. Just come back in two days." I'm like, "What? What do you mean come back in two days?" - Wait, so you didn't even get it? - I didn't get it today. I didn't get it yesterday. - Oh my God. So you haven't got it yet? - No. - After waiting, how long did you wait? - I left at 4:00 PM and I got there at 8:00 AM.

- And it's an hour away from me. - So eight hours. - Yeah, like eight hours total. - You wasted a whole day. - I lost a whole day. - To not getting a license. - To get the paperwork to get the license. - Because I remember you telling me just before that you were getting this- - It's all a bunch of fetch quests. This is why they love. This is why all the RPGs in Japan have a bazillion fetch quests. 'Cause living here is a fucking fetch quest. Every time you wanna do anything, it's like, okay, get the prerequisite items, which they're all in different locations,

because of course they are. Like they're not all in the government building because that would be too easy. That would make life too simple. - That's why Gacha games work here because you even have the waiting time, like the loading time where you like think you got all the items and then you have to like put it in to like fucking, yeah, you gotta craft the item and you gotta wait until the item is finished being crafted. - And then you pull the dud Gacha as well because you have to wait till 2:30. - Yeah, so they said I have to come back on Wednesday, which is tomorrow. So I'm going there tomorrow to do the eye test, that's it.

I do the eye test and once I prove I'm not fucking blind, I get my license. - Imagine if they just reject you after that. - I would fucking lose it. - So you basically spend eight hours for someone to tell you come back in two days.

- Basically. I know that DMV is bad in all countries, but in the UK, I would never have it that bad. - It wasn't that bad. And especially with how many documents you needed to grab before just to get your license, like just to be given a license as well. - Because it's crazy because like Nabi who went with you, who's a friend of ours, like when he went, he had such an easy time, but I guess it's because he got it before COVID. - I think they've made it a lot slower from COVID. Like apparently, and they also told me that

for some reason because of COVID, the amount of people applying has gone up a lot. - Well, yeah, because no one can travel outside of the country. So therefore they want to travel inside. - Yeah, true. But I guess I would have thought the other way around, but yeah, it's just- - Speaking to you has made me like, has entirely put me off from wanting to get a Japanese license now. - I'm glad at least someone on Trash Taste now has a license 'cause we're just gonna ask you to show for us everywhere. - I just, I wanted, I,

even when I don't need something, I wanna just do it because if I have the free time, I know there's gonna be a, I never wanna be in the point in my life where like I need something

and it's gonna take- - Oh, I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm like that as well, but I'm not gonna go to a DMV for eight hours to be like, come back for an eye test two days later. - I didn't know they were gonna do that. - That doesn't sound worth it to me. So I'm glad you went through the pain because like I said, like I- - Now we know not to do it. - Yeah, now I know not to do it. And like driving for me is a stressful experience anyway, but that's probably because I've spent most of my time driving in Thailand.

because I never actually drove so much in the UK 'cause like I grew up in Brighton and then moved to London for my job. So I've never needed to be in a place where I drive frequently until I moved to Bangkok. And my God, driving in just Southeast Asia in general is just nothing like driving in Japan or driving in the UK or anything. So let me describe what it is like driving in one of these kinds of countries. Okay, so in Thailand, we don't have road rules.

- We have road suggestions. That's kind of, so we technically have rules, but whether people follow them or not is up to the individual driver. - It's like a Mario Kart with like a lot more death. - Oh, it is basically.

- You know how you change lanes? There's like a system, for example, changing lanes, right? You signal and then the person like whether- - Backs off. - Yeah, the person backs off, whatever, like whoever has the right of way. The right of way in Thailand goes, "Okay, we're gonna play this game of chicken." - Oh no. - So imagine I wanna change lanes or someone else wants to change lane and there's a car just like behind them or like in the same lane. So the person's gonna start changing lanes

And either one person backs off or the person changing lane backs off or we're gonna crash. And so there's no rule to say who has to back off. So one of them is gonna back off or you're gonna crash. So it's basically who has the bigger balls to like not give way or give way. - Who's gonna be the bigger man. - Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. - Dude, it's wild. I think like Thailand looks scary. There's other countries even worse I think. There's like, I think,

in Saudi Arabia, the number one cause of death is car accidents. - I wouldn't be surprised. - Which is crazy because I don't think any other country it's even up there. - I mean, I went to the Philippines a couple of years ago to go see Aki's family and we had to drive through Manila. And that was one of the most terrifying things ever because not only is there no lanes and it's the same thing, like it's just whoever gets in there first, but there's also people just

on the road, just in the middle of the road trying to cross. - The worst thing is like the people on the middle of the road who have just no fear of death and then motorcycles as well. Motorcycles are like the fucking like annoying house fly that you just can't like fucking swat away, but they're always there and you always need to be aware of them. Like driving in Bangkok, you just have to like, you just have to master ultra instinct. They just, every driver just needs to master ultra instinct. - You just have to be like the rain man

- They've all got their fucking men turned on. That's why they can all drive. - They got like the fucking observation hockey, like permanently turned on when you're driving. - And it's not just a motorcycle either. It's like a motorcycle that's normally for like max two people that somehow have like eight people

- And I'm just like, what? - Like sometimes there's just a motorcycle and there's just like the entire family on the motorcycle plus the chauffeur as well. - It's like a clown car on a motorcycle. - Don't stress me out so fucking much. - It's funny 'cause,

- Because Bangkok, living in Bangkok, you often take motorcycle taxis, even though in any other country you would not take it. And I described Bangkok as like the only place I've been to in the world where I will willingly risk my life every day going on a motorcycle taxi so I can save myself from sitting in an hour of traffic. - Oh my God. - That's the kind of city it is during rush hour. And that's just given me a huge, I wouldn't say fear of driving, but just every time I think about driving, it just gives me a cold sweat.

- I gotta get back on that road, man. - Or you've just like perfected your like dodging techniques. - You got hit in the UK by some asshole. - Not really. - Yeah, yeah. So we were on, I was driving to, we have like a yearly house party where a lot of my friends in the UK catch up.

And I was sitting in the car with Alan, my editor, Alex, Alan's girlfriend, Sydney and D, Revel House. And so we were on like a country roads and we had just like, there was a car in front of us, so we just stopped. And I did like a kind of like a sudden stop. This car in front of us like did a very quick stop. And then D was about to say, "Nice driving, Garnt."

And as he was, as like the sound was leaving his mouth, a fucking car just like tail ends my car and it fucking destroys my car. - Jesus. - And like my car is fucking totaled and the car in front of us has the audacity to be like, yo, this was your fault by the way, when are you paying up? And the car behind us was like, so,

So during the interview when the police came, we called the police, everyone got like checked up in an ambulance. And apparently he just, he was going like 60 or 70 down a country road and he just had his eyes off the road. He was like, yeah, I just took my eyes off the road for a second. And who knew a car could creep up on me?

in one second. - Oh yeah, dude. It's terrifying the country roads. I learned to drive in London, but I also drove a lot in Wales. But like those roads in Wales are scary 'cause they're all like thick trees and really tight roads, especially like Wales and then probably in Devon as well, we were in there. Like there's like fucking trucks coming all the time on these roads. - It's like a one way road or? - It's two, but when you get the bus,

- It's like, you can't have to stop and pull into a ditch. So sometimes you're going like, and they're normally 60, 'cause they're national speed limit roads. - 60 miles, right? - Miles per hour. And then they'll just be like,

- Trucks coming and you really have to like, - I feel like truck drivers in every country are like, - They don't give a fuck, 'cause why would they? They win every time. If I had to rock the destroyed paper, of course I'm gonna pick rock and fucking kill everyone. - They're like the jocks in the school hallway, right? It's like, you have to move out of the way 'cause they're not gonna move. - Yeah, I mean, that was the only car crash I've been in, but there's been many, many close calls as you can probably imagine in Bangkok. Like the health and safety in Bangkok,

especially on the roads is very worrying. - How does an ambulance get to you?

- I've wondered that exact same question during rush hour. - Motorcycle, get in the back. - I guess you just got to fucking bleed out on the road, right? 'Cause what's even scarier, right? Is the taxi drivers in Bangkok. 'Cause it's such a roulette wheel. Okay, so for one, you'd expect one of the most dangerous cities to drive in to have a lot of like safety measures on the public transports, right? So most taxis, you go in the back and there's no seatbelt.

- Some of the closest near death experiences I've had have been on a fucking taxi because taxi drivers, they don't get paid the most as well. So they work ridiculously long hours. So I remember this one time I had a night out

And we stayed out till about like 3:00, 4:00 AM drinking at some Izakaya in like Bangkok, whatever. And we had to go home. And so we get a taxi home. And the good thing about driving back home in like the middle of like 4:00 AM is it normally driving there takes two hours, but when there's no traffic, it takes 30 minutes. That's kind of like the time you add on when you don't factor in traffic. But we get in, so it's me and Sydney and we get in this taxi

And this guy just seems really quiet. And then we get to the highway and he's doing like fucking 80 to a hundred miles an hour on the freeway, right? And then Sydney's like asleep in the taxi.

So it's just me and it's complete silence. And then he just starts like swerving a bit. He just, you know that thing where you- - When you wake up, you're like. - You're like, whoa, whoa. And I'm like, okay, we could have crashed right there. So I asked him, are you okay? And he's like, yeah, I'm completely good. I've just been out for like 36 hours. I'm like- - Pull over right now, pull over. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. And to explain something about Thai culture,

we have this thing called a Maipenlai attitude, which the closest translation is like a "Daijoubu, daijoubu." - Yeah. - It's okay kind of attitude, which, you know, it's great when you're on holiday, you know, because the reason Thailand's so great when you're on holiday is 'cause everyone's so relaxed, you know, it's stress-free. But there are some,

where it's very, very not a, very not a Maipan Lai situation. And this was one of those situations. So I'm asking him, are you okay? You sure you don't wanna pull over? We can get another taxi. And he's like, Maipan Lai, Maipan Lai, Maipan Lai.

- Bro, this is a very not my Ben Lai situation right now that we're in. - I'd be next to him the whole time, like slapping his cheeks. - No, I literally, I was literally in the back seat. No seatbelt by the way. This taxi did not have a seatbelt. And this guy just, I told him to slow down and he goes, okay, I'll slow down. So he goes from a hundred miles an hour to 80 miles an hour. I'm like,

- Yeah, like brilliant, brilliant. - Everything is not my fault. - Yeah, yeah, he's like, "My fault, my fault." And like every five minutes he would just like, I could see him nodding off to be like, "Ugh, ugh." - This is where you get in the front seat next to him, just stare at him like, listen, like the fucking L, like just like fucking.

- Because like Bangkok has like a legit, like a highway. So it's like an elevated highway. So we couldn't, I couldn't just tell him to stop and like, and we get in and out of taxi. Cause we're in the middle of the fucking highway. - If you're in a fucking Japanese taxi, he'll stop on the highway.

on the highway. They don't give a fuck, they're crazy here. - Yeah, so basically I was in, it was the most stressful half hour of rides I've ever been on. Sydney was like stress-free, she was asleep. She could have died in her sleep. - Sydney was the only one who was my open life. - It's a good way to go. - And I was up like fucking pissed out my mind at 4:00 AM being like, trying to have this conversation with this taxi driver. I was like, I was just trying to keep him awake and he was telling me like, "Oh yeah, you know, I've got like two kids waiting for me at home." And I'm just like, dude,

After this taxi drive, go home to your fucking kids. Just think about your kids. - Sleep for fuck sake. - Please, please just think about your kids right now. - My God. - And yeah, that was one of the near life. - Jesus Christ. - Death experiences I've had in Thailand. - Garnt's always like, "Yeah, Connor, come to Thailand. "It'll be great." I'm like, "Bro, what do you mean? "You make it sound like it's fucking Jason Statham movie "every time you talk about it. "Holy shit."

- Fast and furious. - Keeping this man awake to save your life. What is this? It's like, yeah, I was saying earlier, like Japanese taxis, they just stop anywhere. Have you noticed that? - They are the jocks in the school. - When I tell them to stop around somewhere, they like take that literally and they'll stop in the middle of the fucking busy highway. And they'll be like, all right, here you are.

- What are you doing? Get to like a side road or something. - If you don't specify, like, can you stop like down the road? If you just say stop, they'll be like, okay, stopping. - They stop. - They just stop. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I say like, tomatoes, they stop. - I'm like, we're in the middle of an intersection. Maybe you should like move forward a bit. - He did that when we went to the, we had ramen last week and then he stopped at the intersection. Just stopped. - And I'm like, I'm not getting out of the car. We're in a fucking intersection.

Like, bro, were you sure? - It's so weird. I don't know, 'cause they follow road rules so strictly here, but then for some reason taxi drivers just don't. And it's funny, 'cause I noticed on the British government website, when you go to Japan, it says, "Be careful of taxi drivers, "'cause they just stop anywhere." Especially when driving. 'Cause if you're behind a taxi driver in Japan, you're driving, be careful. He will probably just stop.

Like full force, just full of, it's crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, like the road rules or like who has the right of way kind of confusing me sometimes. And okay, zebra crossings. - Oh yeah, yeah, we have that. - Zebra crossings in every country have a different meaning and I don't know what it means in Japan. So to explain, in the UK, if there's a zebra crossing, the pedestrian always has the right of way. - Yeah, yeah.

You never need to fear for your life if you're near a zebra crossing. - You're taught to stop. As a driver, you stop even if you see someone walking near it. - Yeah, exactly. - Like slow down. - Exactly. But you know, in like Southeast Asia, zebra crossings mean nothing. - It's a suggestion. - It's a suggestion, right? In Japan, I don't know what it means either. Sometimes they stop, sometimes they- - They're supposed to stop, but they don't. - I've had instances though where I've stood like

at the front of the several crossing, right? When you put people to stop and like five cars just pass by, I'm like, can I go? - You have to like start walking in the road and then they'll stop. So I realized like I'm playing fucking chicken. I've got to walk in the road and be like, halt. I have the right of way. - Cease. - Cease, my Lord. And then go. It's weird. I don't know why you'd think that, you know, considering how strict their road rules are here and everyone leaves so much room between the cars here. I noticed that. - It's like three cars worth. - Yeah, in the UK it's like this much.

But in Japan, it's like, all right, leave a car, at least a car. - That's why I'm kind of glad that Japan doesn't have like roundabouts. Can you imagine? - Oh God, it'd be terrible. - Like just how much of a fucking- - No one would like- - No one would give way. Everyone would just be waiting for someone to come in. - No, no, no, dozo, dozo. - Like, please, please, go ahead, go. No, because like, there was this like,

I don't know if it's an actual road rule and I wanna preface, I don't know if it's an actual road rule, but in Australia we were taught and some people were taught that when you're in a roundabout, usually it's like whoever's in the roundabout first. It's basically like once you're in the roundabout, you have to give away to whoever is in the roundabout. But in Australia, some people were taught that like, oh no, you always have to give way to the person on your right. And I'm just like, but then what if there's four people at the roundabout?

- Who's gonna give way? - It's kind of like if you see them and they're far enough away on the right, it's like, I guess go. This is why I hate roundabouts. 'Cause there's no like super like rock solid logic that you can apply. - Australia is the land of fucking roundabouts. - Because we have so many in the UK as well. It's kind of like, you just gotta be like, Americans are like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Basically you just like,

you see a car coming and you're like, do I think I can get this car in gear and go? - That just brings an extra layer of stress to my drive. 'Cause it's like playing a quick time event. And if you fail the quick time event, you just crash. - Joey drives automatic, so he's lucky. The worst part is 'cause you obviously have to stop most of the time with a roundabout. So you're not in gear. So you see a car and you're like,

I've seen this car, I have to quickly decide whether I can get in gear and go. And if I'm fast enough to not make that guy slow down too much, 'cause it's just a mess. - Oh yeah, dude, it's easy for me, 'cause I just like, can I make it? Yeah, I'll just floor it. - I'll just press the go. - Yeah, I'll press the go pedal and just get in. - But yeah, I did my driving test for a manual car.

And this driving test put me off driving manual for my entire fucking life. Okay, to explain, I think you're allowed 16 minor offenses, right? - Oh, oh, were you driving test? - Minor, minor, when you're driving test. - What registers as a minor offense? - Like not indicating?

- No, no, no. That's a major one. - Like maybe going a little too early, leaving too much time. Stuff that doesn't matter, but if you do a lot of them, it would be like you're a shit rider. - Stuff that won't cause an accident. - Yeah, exactly. - If your tires hit a curb, I think that's a major- - No, that's a major offense. - So that's the level of- - Okay, okay, okay. - But like a minor offense is something that can't cause a crash or anything like that, I think. But I got 13.

- Holy shit. - I got 13 on my driving test. - Oh my God. - I thought I'd failed, right? - So I'm gonna test the limit. - And I swear like, 'cause I was so fucking stressed. It was my first time driving. It was my first attempt at a driving test as well. And I remember this, there was always one road I was so,

super fucking terrified would be on my driving test. And of course it was on my driving test. And so driving a manual car, it's a hill start. - Oh, I heard that as well. - Yeah, it's a hill start into a roundabout. - Oh, same, same. - Oh my God. Like that, that.

I remember when I pulled up and normally I hope that the roundabout is fucking clear. Of course it's not clear. So you're playing about five different mini games at once. And if you stall the car, if you go too early, go too late or do any of that shit, you fail the test. And that like the experience of having to drive manual and

'cause with driving manual, you are constantly playing a mini game where I just wanna shut my brain off. I wanna stress free driving experience. So yeah, that's why I've driven automatic my entire life since then basically. - I've never driven an automatic. So I don't know if it's like- - Really? - I want to though. - It'll be like fucking putting the antenna on in Mario Kart 4.

- How do I crash? How do I crash this? - On my way to the driving test, I did like everything wrong. Like I didn't indicate, I ran a red light. I fucked up on a roundabout, nearly caused a crash. My driving instructor was like, it's okay if you have to do it twice. And then I got like two minors.

I like went in like Nen mode, like focus. I just like killed it. I was like, wow, okay, damn, I'm good at this for this very small point during the day where it mattered. - It's not as bad as my uncle. He like, my uncle, like he failed his first driving test and

- Do you wanna guess how he failed his first driving test? - What did he do, crash? - So like, you know, when you, do you start at the DMV, like in your driving test or do you just start at like a random road? - We start at a random road for- - Wherever you parked your car. - Okay, so in Australia, you start at the actual DMV and you have to like go out of the DMV, drive around, come back to the DMV and then once you're back at the DMV, then that's the end of the test. My uncle went out of the exit.

- No. - Of the DMV. - Okay. - So he got in the car, he started it up, drove out, two seconds later, he was like, "You failed."

- Why? - Because he drove out of the exit. - Oh. - Oh, sorry, he drove out of the entrance. - That sounds better than what happens in the UK. In the UK, if you do a major, like major mistake, and you know you've done it, you have to complete the test. - Oh, really? - They don't tell you you failed immediately. You could like do something and you know you failed, and you still just have to go through the entire test knowing that you've already failed. - Oh no, because in Australia, the moment you fail, they just immediately tell you and they tell you to drive back.

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- So they changed the UK test from when you did it now. So when I had to do it, there was like a portion of it that was with like a sat nav. And then there was another part where they were like telling me the directions. I hated it when they were telling me directions. - Oh yeah. - I'm like, why do I need to be tested on this? This is like testing my ability to use like a quill. It's like, I'm never gonna use this. Like just give me the little robot that talks to me. I can see where the map is. I know what the, like when you say right to me 10 seconds before my brain goes dumb. It's like, right?

- Right now? - Like this right, like my right arm this way, right? Like this, my brain is like, bro, when I hit directions. This is when I'm driving, I'm like, bro, I'm trying to change gears, shut the fuck up. - No, what they're testing you for is for fucking backseat drivers. - Yeah. - Just being like, turn right, turn right, turn right. - I'm like, yo, can you judge my mix tape at least? - Can I get your thoughts?

- That was pretty sick. - If I failed the test, at least I'd want to put the mixtape on. - Just slip that in. - I'll give you the mixtape for free if you let me pass. - Can we hook up my orcs or something? Come on, man. - Don't play anything cringe. All right, I got you. - Just start playing all the fucking anime openings and everything. - Oh fuck, I love this opening. All right, turn right.

- Oh my God. - So yeah, so now I know not to go to the fucking DMV in Japan. - Thank you for that story. - Thank you for taking the bullet for us. Now we don't have to hire a chauffeur for trash days. We just have you. - Can't wait to go tomorrow. - Yes, moving on from driving, that was a pretty big tangent. I have an announcement, gentlemen. - Go on. - Like I think after 10, 12, 13 years,

I may have a new best girl of all time. - Wait, who was it before? - Senja Gahara. So ever since- - I like "Ware Bread" too. - So ever since the very first time I've watched "Bakemonogatari", Senja Gahara has been my waifu. You know what I mean? She's always been the top tier girl and people have come close, but no one- - Where are you going?

but no one has come close to dethroning her. But recently I caught up to the "Rent-A-Girlfriend" manga. And I think that Chizuru is in contention for being like my best girl of all time. - Really? - Yeah. Which like leads me to the question, like when did you first know that you had like a best girl? 'Cause I know who's yours is Joey. - Yeah.

And then Ocon is losing his mind at this question. - This is like when people on the forums are like, how did you know you were in love? Like what made you feel like you were in love? Was it like the stomach? - What is love? What is love and when did you first fall in love? - I mean, first of all, I'm surprised that Shinjogahara was like your waifu 'cause I always thought it was fucking Oscar.

- I mean like Asuka was someone who I could just respect for. Connor's dying in his corner here. - Asuka isn't my waifu, she's just someone I respect the most. - Isn't Asuka like 15? - I mean, it depends. - Well, this is the biggest, no officer, she's a... - She's a drawing.

- I don't know if I wanna open up that debate 'cause that debate is a fucking landmine of takes. - We can open that up. - I don't know if I want to, man. - 'Cause you're gonna look like a pedo. - I'm in the worst position for that. I'm in the worst position for that argument. - 'Cause you know there's no good defense for yourself. - Oh, I mean, yeah, but I also don't really care.

It's like you don't need a defense to be like, yes, this is my girlfriend. I don't care what you think, I love her. - I mean, I don't think it's like, I'm not trying to, there's people who are like, yeah, it's pedophilia. I'm like, I don't know about that. - No, that's stupid. - But like, I think there's gonna be something a little sus about being like, yeah, they're my waifu. - I'm not gonna willingly walk into a courtroom and being like, here is my defense.

- Your honor, she was a drawing. Which, you know, like, okay. - Your honor, I have a birth certificate. She's technically 900 years old. - I do think there's a huge difference in like having a waifu and, you know, like,

sexualizing whatever. - That's true, okay. A waifu is like a character who is a female, I guess most of the time. - Yeah, exactly. - Who you just really dig. - Yeah, exactly. - I get that, I get that. - Yeah, and for me it's always been Senju Gahara, just because I like from watching "Bakuman no Gatari" like I love the personality and- - Why? - Huh?

- Why? That was the biggest huh? - Huh? - It's like, how dare you even question? - How dare you even question? - I just wanna know why. So I can think of some excuses when I need to. - Just because her interactions with Araragi were some of the most entertaining interactions I had seen in anime up to that point. I think it was the way she was written and the way it was written,

what really sold me on the show was basically Senju Kahara's interaction with Araragi and how their romance developed and how her character was explored as well. It was just something that's like her character arc just really resonated with me. And I think that's what really a waifu is. It's a character,

who really like resonates with you on a personal level. Like you don't necessarily view them as a life partner or anything like that. You were just like, damn man. - It's just a character that whatever they do, you just fucking love. Like they can say or do anything and just how they react and how they are. - It's just like the highest tier of simping. - And Joey heard and saw all of that and was like, nah, give me the one who sucks my neck.

- Nice character development, bro. How about you suck my neck? - Senjogahara is not my waifu, but I fucking love her as a character. Like I love how everything she does and says is deadpan as fuck. - Yeah, exactly. - That's what I love about her. - It's her deadpan delivery and deadpan humor, which really drew her to me. And then it was exploring another side of the character, her more vulnerable side, which made me like, okay,

I'm simping, I want you to be happy. You know what I mean? - Okay, okay, okay. - I totally get that. - I'll take that Bruce. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's why there's so many wife is, yeah. But no, I agree. It's like every time like Shinobu, like his shot came on screen, like everything she said and did, I was just like, I fucking love it. I don't know why.

I can't explain it to you in words. I just love it. - That powerful that when you're done watching it, you're like thinking about it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - She's such a good character. - Have you never had a character, like waifu or not, like female or not, that you've just like kind of resonated with? - You can have a husbando as well. I have a husbando. - Yeah, I think so. I think so. I don't know, I can't name it. - You can't name it? - On the top of my head. I don't know. Yeah, no, I can't really think of any immediately. - Do you have a husbando?

- I'd have to think about it. - 'Cause my husband is Usui from "Kaichou Meitsuma". - Oh, okay. - The bald head guy. Yeah, so Maylene's like, "All right, that's a good choice." - Wait, what's it called in English, that show? - "Kaichou Meitsuma" is a president, is a maid. - I don't think I've seen that. - Do you wanna explain his character? - Okay, so Usui is like the, okay, so "Kaichou Meitsuma" is based off a shoujo manga from like the early 2000s, I believe. And the anime is from like the early 2000s. But basically,

It's the story about like how the school, like class president basically is like, you know, normally the anime trope of class president is like, you know, that they're very like pure hearted. They're very like together, you know, they're very adult for their age kind of thing. But this particular Kaichou is also a maid at a maid cafe.

- Sounds like I could relate to that. - Yeah, so basically it's like a complete opposite, right? And so basically she gets found out by this like fucking hunk of a dude called Usui who like all the girls fucking love. And so it's this like special relationship where he's trying to hide the fact that she's not actually this like altogether like me time personality and she fucking hates Usui for it. But of course with how every shoujo manga goes, she's like, actually this guy, I might like this guy.

I like this guy. And then Uzu is also like, you know, I kind of started off, you know, just like just teasing her, but she's kind of hot. - That was a guy character I liked. What was that show where the character, his whole thing is that he's perfect and he's a student. - Sakamoto. - I fucking loved that. - That anime was so good. - That was so funny. - I did not go, like that was an anime that I heard was decent. And I was like, I did not expect to love that. - Oh, it's so funny. - If you haven't seen Sakamoto, it's basically like the whole premise is that

that this guy is just the perfect human being in every way. - This is just the perfect guy. - And everyone in the school is trying to like fuck with him and he somehow always manages to flip it. Like there was one time where they needed to like make a fire in a room. So he literally started doing like back and forward. He goes back and forward, like jumping back and forward to start a fire. - And the friction between his shoes and the ground. - And the friction starts a fire and it's like, what? I love this. I love this man. I want to fuck him. - It's so good.

- I loved him so much. I wish I was that cool. - Sakamoto, like, I'll be honest, I didn't like it that much. - What? - Why? - It's so fun. - It's funny. - How come you don't like it? - It's because Sakamoto pretty much like, every problem I have with most comedy anime is in Sakamoto, which is I liked the first two episodes

And then I'm like, oh, you know, they kind of doing the same joke over and over. - But it got funnier every time for me. I don't know why. Because I knew it was coming. It was always funny when it came. I don't know why. - It's like, you knew like whatever situation it was, it's like, you knew. - He was gonna come out on top. - He's gonna solve it. But it's the excitement of like,

- How is he gonna do it? - The absurdity of how he was gonna overcome it. - I love that show because it completely defies expectations of like, oh, he's probably gonna do this. But then they just completely flip it and be like, oh yeah. - There was no point in my mind where I thought he was gonna friction burn the floor into a fire to save all the students. Like I didn't see that coming. - And then he was just like, I just want it to work out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, what? It's so fun.

- I love the comedy anime like that, that are just like not trying too hard, I guess. - It's really weird 'cause I've had the hardest time getting into comedy anime. - Comedy anime are normally the worst type of anime. - There are very few comedy anime that I enjoy. And I put most of them in the same category as like Sakamoto where it's funny to me for like one or two episodes and then I get bored very quickly if they're just kind of doing the same thing. I always need to be like,

They always need to be doing something different for me. - So what about something like Nichijou? - Wait, wait, yeah, Nichijou and also what do you think is like the best comedy anime? - Yeah. - Oh, that's so- - In my opinion, it's Nichijou. - Nichijou? - Yeah.

- Off the top of my head, probably the hardest I've ever laughed at a comedy anime was probably Golden Boy, if you remember that. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - But that was mostly- - That's an old one. - That's a really old one and that's only like a six episode OVA. So I'd never got the chance to get bored with it. And it is one of the best dubs I have ever heard, especially when it comes to a comedy anime. 'Cause you must've seen the meme of the one clip where it's the guy doing the swimming.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - That's the one clip that gets shared out of Golden Boy. And if you're gonna, if you laughed at that clip, please watch Golden Boy because it's like every point of Golden Boy I feel like is just as good as that clip.

And that was just a one clip that if I would sell you on that show. - I could easily rewatch that. - Konosuba was also way funnier than I thought it was going to be when I first got into it. - Konosuba is good. Konosuba, I really enjoy in the same way I enjoy like Always Sunny in Philadelphia or something like that. It's just a bunch of awful people doing awful things and it's fucking hilarious. - We need an anime that's as awful as Always Sunny. Always Sunny is like my favorite fucking comedy. I love it so much.

- Yeah. - My God. - The "Cornosubur" movie as well was surprisingly really funny. - I haven't watched that yet. - Yeah, but it was also really weird because it was really funny, you had no one in the cinemas laughing out loud. - Japanese cinemas. - Yeah, so I felt really bad laughing out loud. I was just like, "Ha!" - Do you ever wish there was more like, I guess, Western humor in comedy and anime? - Yeah. - 'Cause a lot of it does kind of feel- - A lot of it's very anime-esque comedy. Some of it's very slapstick. What would classify though as like Western comedy? Right? That's the question really.

- Because slapstick as well is technically worse. - I don't necessarily even think the Japanese humor is as slapstick as we like to point out. I think there's a YouTube video on this and it's like, well, there's like, I mean, there's a lot of TV shows in Japan, right? Where like the whole comedy is like game shows with their like language, right?

- Oh yeah, like Wiz shows. - There's a bunch of other stuff like that. But I feel like at least in Western, we're like really fucking brutal with our comedy. You know what I mean? Like you watch something like Always Sunny and it's like, I couldn't imagine anything like that coming out of Japan. - I kind of imagine like a family guy in Japan. - Right, it's weird though, 'cause you have,

the game shows here, which go above and beyond what we would think is acceptable. But then when for some reason comedy, it's like, they don't really joke about that kind of stuff. - It's a lot of wordplay in Japan. I feel like Japanese comedy is a lot of wordplay. - A lot of wordplay, right? But like they have like the show like fucking orgasm wars in Japan where it's basically a show about if a dude can make another dude come. That's the whole premise. - What? - Yeah, Aki recently did a video on it, but basically the most famous one was there was this, it was versus this,

like super professional Japanese male porn star who can like, he says like, "I can control when I come." Basically. So he's like, "It's a 40 minute shoot. All right, I'll come at minute 38." - I can come at command. - Yeah, basically he was like, "I can come at command." Which means that if you,

"If you tell me not to come, I'll never come." And then he had to verse this guy, this- - Verse? - Yeah, it was a verse. It's like, he basically had to verse this guy. He was a bartender in Shinjuku, Nijome, which is like the gay district of Shinjuku. And he's like considered to be, he says he can make any man come.

with his skills, right? - Right. - So basically they put both of them in a room, right? This is on TV, by the way, on national TV. So they put him in a room, he's inside, the male porn star is like inside of a box that's completely covered and the gay guy gets in basically and you don't see anything, but they're both mic'd up. So you can hear everything.

- How does this pass television? How? - And of course, you know, with traditional Japanese television, like in the corner, there's like always the reaction, like face cam. And this is the bunch of people just fucking losing themselves. Just watching a dude suck off a game. - Doesn't he like make him nut like immediately? - He makes him nut in like five minutes.

- And the funniest part is like, obviously like, you know, watching the male porn star, like come on national TV, but then the gay guy coming out and being like, - That's so funny. - Do you hear like the dick sucking sounds? - Oh yeah, yeah. It's on YouTube as well, mind you. If you look it up, I guarantee it's on YouTube. - It's crazy that like, that's like,

like totally acceptable, but then like their humor doesn't, maybe not even like it's not allowed, but they don't really find that funny. - Right. - Maybe. - No, no, they find it funny. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that was one of the most like legendary pieces of like TV. - They found it that funny, but then why would you reckon that something like "Sunny" would be, do you reckon that would be funny to Japanese people? - I don't know, really? - Have you watched "Sunny"? - Yeah, I've seen a bit of it. - Yeah. - They probably think, man, these people are really rude.

- Yeah. - That's what's so funny about it. - I don't know, 'cause like the reason I've really enjoyed "Konosuba" over something like say "Sakamoto" is that "Konosuba" was like way more character-based comedy. - It's true. - I very much enjoy character-based comedy where- - "Sakamoto" is just like Mr. Bean.

- Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. - Sorry to cut you off, but. - And no, that's like the perfect analogy where a lot of comedy anime. - It's the perfect theme. - A lot of the comedy anime I see is just like, hey, there's this one joke and it's funny like the first few times. Let's see how far we can stretch it. But eventually, eventually I'm gonna get bored. Whereas with a lot of like, you know, sitcoms and everything like that, you know, it's a lot of character based comedy where, you know, some of the best moments are seeing how,

knowing the characters and seeing how they will interact with each other. And you know, that's what the comedy builds off of. You talked about Nichijou. I haven't actually seen Nichijou yet. - You haven't seen Nichijou? - I haven't seen Nichijou. - It's been like one of the one anime, the one comedy anime I haven't seen. - If you love Sakamoto, you'll fucking love Nichijou. 'Cause Nichijou is that one comedy anime where every joke is,

- Expectation defining? - Yeah. 'Cause one thing I will say about Nishijou is that it doesn't seem like, it's not a character based comedy, is it?

- Every clip I've seen looks like funny as fuck. - The thing that sells me on like what makes me really want to watch Nichijou is that every clip I've seen is vastly different and vastly like they have an original approach to a joke every time, whether it be like animation or the punchline or something. So I would probably really enjoy Nichijou as well. - Yeah, Nichijou is interesting because I feel it's kind of half,

it's like halfway between Sakamoto and Konosuba in the sense that it's a lot like Sakamoto where like all the jokes are very, you know, expectation defying and stuff like that. But as you're watching these like short clips of like, because it's basically just a bunch of short jokes put into one episode essentially. But the way that they do it, the way that it's written is that like each character's like development is,

you know, very physically defined. So by the end of like the 20 something episodes of Nichijou, you know exactly what these characters are like. So there is character development and character comedy within it as well, which I think is what makes it especially funny. Where like the more episodes you watch, the more you start to understand, okay, this character is like this and this character is like this. So I can expect some kind of joke like this.

But then the writing's like, no, fuck all of that that you thought you were gonna expect. We're gonna give you something completely different. And that's what makes it so funny. And of course it's Kyoto animation. So you know the animation is gone like- - I have been meaning to watch it for like forever. - Are you like, I've seen the dead scene, the dead scene so many times, every time I fucking lose it man. Like there are so many layers to that one scene. That just makes me want to watch Nishijou so badly. - Especially after when I helped you film the video with the interview with one of the

the main voice actress. - Oh, on the Michael, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, and she was super chill and nice. - Yeah, she was the voice of Yuko in Nishijou. - And I felt bad 'cause I'm like, I wish I could appreciate being in front of you more. - It was crazy because her regular voice is literally Yuko. So I'm just like, holy shit, it's like I'm talking to Yuko. But yeah, it's fucking hilarious. I mean, I'm sure people can agree, but that's the good thing about Nishijou, right? Is that unlike Konosuba where you kind of have to understand the story and the characters, I feel it's really hard to watch a Konosuba scene out of context.

and it still be funny. - Yeah, I would agree with you 'cause it's the characters that haven't built up. - Right, you need to understand the characters but Nichijou somehow, there is characters in it but they've somehow established the joke where you can just watch a clip completely out of context and it's still fucking hilarious. - Yeah. - Because okay, like to counter off that point, there's the other show that I can think of where I got kind of bored quite fast was a "Pop Team Epic".

- Sorry, Joe, nothing to do with you. - No, no, it's okay. - I heard your narration, Joey. I turned that shit off immediately. - Wasn't funny, try again. - Like "Pop Team Epic" was great until I realized that not every- - That's not funny. - No, no, that not every clip was funny.

And then I realized that the optimal way to watch "Pop Team Epic" was just to watch like the YouTube compilations of the best ones. And so I realized that, hey, I could spend 10 minutes or 20 minutes if you wanna watch both versions, or I could spend like five or three to five minutes just watching the best ones. - I hated how it played twice. - Yeah, that shit was weird. - It was okay for one episode, but I was like, oh, we're doing it every episode. - Every time. - Oh, Jesus. - Yeah. I mean, having been in the anime, I can confidently say,

a lot of it wasn't funny. A lot of it was just really stupid in my opinion. - Yeah, it was very like- - Except for the episode I was in, that was funny. - That was a banger. - That was a great episode. - That's in the top 10 anime episodes of all time, like come on. - Yeah, it was like way too much, haha, XD internet humor, like internet meme humor a lot of the times.

I would say the one comedy anime that I'd say pulled that off well, but this is going back way back. I don't know if you guys have heard of this anime called "Kumari High School." - Yeah. - That's like a really, really old anime that kind of predicted a lot of internet and meme humor way before this was like prevalent in like our culture. And I remember the one clip that,

made me watch the entire thing was, it was, I can't remember when it came out, but it was like early 2000s. It was like 2002 or something. And it was like parodying internet trolls and stuff like that. In like the early 2000s, I'm like, this is fucking brilliant. It was so ahead of its time. I don't know if it has aged badly or not badly. I haven't rewatched it in a while, but that was also something where the dub was fucking brilliant as well. - Yeah, I remember reading the manga at a friend's place and I've never laughed,

- What's an anime that was funny purely because it was just so fucking awful?

I mean, there's a lot. That's my entire career. Just watching bad anime and laughing at it. - I feel like when I watched King's Game for the first time, I fucking lost it. I couldn't stop laughing at how shit is out there. - No, no, no. King's Game was bad. Other than there was the dub, which just made it- - I didn't watch the dub. Is it bad? - I felt so bad 'cause it was obvious that like, you know, it wasn't on their priority.

- It was rough, dude. It was rough. - That's a real shame as well because when I heard that the Kings game anime was like fucking horrible, I was like, oh man, I kind of liked the manga though. So it's like really a shame that the anime just like completely fucked it. - I can't remember cause I only watched two episodes where I was like, ah, I've seen enough. I'm satisfied.

I was just like, fuck dude, this is fucking awful. - I think the scene I burst out laughing at was, I think there was a challenge where the guy had to sleep with the girl or something like that. And the girl is like the main guy's girlfriend or crush, I can't remember what it was.

- But so it's his best friend who has to sleep with this girl who is the main character's girlfriend. I'm just gonna say girlfriend now. And so he doesn't wanna do it.

- So he doesn't want to betray his bro like that. - Yeah. - So the main character is trying to fucking argue with this guy to sleep with his girlfriend. And so he refuses. So what he does, his solution is to fucking deck the guy in the face until he's unconscious. And then he turns to his girlfriend in the dark and just do it while he's unconscious, please. And I'm just like,

- It's so bad. - I need to watch the dub now. - And I've never laughed so hard at just the idea of just basically just a guy getting fucking raped, right? I mean, that's basically what happens

- It's fucking awful, but the way the anime played it so seriously contrasted to how awful the situation was and how it was being portrayed was just like the juxtaposition just made me fucking laugh, man. Like obviously rape isn't a joke and everything like that, but this anime was so awful that you couldn't help but laugh is what I was trying to say. - What about you, Jerry? Any anime you think of at the top of your head? - Oh my God, I mean like,

- I mean, I've been meaning to like make a series on my channel where I do exactly that. Where I just take the worst anime and just laugh at it. Like, I don't know. A lot of the, like the most horrible ones are like obviously the ones that no one's ever fucking heard of clearly. So like, I don't know. What's a famous one?

like "Skelter Heaven" is a famous one. "Mars of Destruction" is a famous one. You ever seen any of those? - No. - You ever seen those? - I still haven't seen "Mars of Destruction." - Oh, "Mars of Destruction." - "Skelter Heaven" sounds familiar. I don't know why. - Yeah, "Skelter," it's like one of the worst rated anime, basically. "Aken" is another one that's one of the worst rated anime. - Oh, not "Aken." - "Aken" is so bad. - Oh my God. - I love it.

But yeah, I've been meaning to make fucking some videos on them all, but like those ones make sense though, right? Because it's like, of course no one knows them. They're fucking horrible. - Yeah. - Right. But I'm trying to think like, what's like a well-known anime?

- That's bad. - That is like horrible. - It's well known because it's bad. - Because like the only one I can think of is this anime called "Gazi's Wing." - Oh yeah. - Which is like, I would say it's less- - That's like a meme, right? - That's less famous and more infamous. - Yeah. - I'd say like the most other infamous one is probably the "Ghost Stories" dub maybe. - Yeah. - I mean, if we gotta bring up "Ghost Stories,"

- We'll talk about it. - Okay. - The ghost stories dog? - It was fucking legendary. - My favorite fucking dog. - We're never gonna get anything like that ever again. - We never will because, do you know the story behind how that dog died? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know a lot about it. - Why don't you explain it for people who don't know? - Basically ghost stories is a, okay, what is the actual plot of the show? Kids go into an abandoned school building, find ghosts, try and resolve it.

- Isn't it just their school building? It's like, there's just ghosts and they have to use- - No, it's like an abandoned side of the building, right? There's like the main building and then there's the abandoned side. - Who the fuck fucking pays attention anyway? - I have no idea.

- Yeah, they basically have to get rid of ghosts. - Yeah, basically. - Basically, the story doesn't matter. What matters is the dub as it's considered one of the best or the best worst dub of all time or the worst best dub of all time. Take your pick. - 'Cause online, it seems to be like people can't agree if it's like good or bad. I don't understand how- - It's funny. - It's the room of anime. - Yeah, yeah. So basically what happened is this was a show that started

sold so poorly when it aired in Japan, that when they sold the licenses, they just basically told the licenses, "Do whatever you want with this show to make it sell. Like we don't care, you have all creative control." And so basically they just shit posted in the dub. It's often like seen as the very first abridged series 'cause it's basically what happens if a bunch of official dubbers just

basically fanned up and abridged the show and fuck about. And it's one of the most infamous like dubs that has ever been released. - The one, the father kills me every time. He's like the little, the younger brother and his entire like time he's just going, like his mouth's moving, but the dog is just like, I'm gonna make him cry every line. - There's a really good video about it by,

I can't remember if it did sell badly or not. I know that's the common thing, but I swear there was some point where that actually wasn't the case and it did do well. I can't remember exactly the story, but again, yeah, Cartoon Cipher did a really great like 30 minute video about this whole dub. They spoke to a ton of sources. It's really good video. It's just a really unique dub. And also because of how they recorded it, normally when you record anime, whoever goes in first is like,

the first to record. So basically they all wanted to go in first so they could like start the improv scene. So everyone had to play off of went first. So they were all trying to get in first. It was just interesting 'cause when you're watching it and you know that, you're like, "Ah, I wonder who started like." - What this scene. - Yeah, because even if they spoke first, doesn't mean they were the one who recorded first. So it's fun to try and figure out, "I wonder who fucking started this shit

- Shit joke basically. And it's just such a fun dub. Have you guys watched it all? - Oh yeah, I've seen it all, yeah. - Yeah, I've seen it all. - Yeah, it's so fun. I really wish that we could,

- Get something again, but we're never gonna get anything. - Yeah, yeah. - Different times. - It's different times now. I'm sure some of the jokes that were set up probably would not be able to have like, you couldn't get away with in this day and age. - Oh God, no. - But it's just such like a timestamp for that time period. And it's just basically all improv as well, which is kind of funny how some like,

Some of the jokes I thought were very good. And the fact that it wasn't scripted at all and it was just all improv, I'm just like, man, I still think it's funny to this day. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - Even though it might be slightly, you know, not politically correct. - It's definitely not politically correct. - Like the rabbits here. - Yeah. Oh yeah.

- It's, wait, what was the joke about that rabbit where like the dad leaves or something? - No, no, it was like the- - Yeah, I can't get with you. It's not because you're a rabbit, it's because you're black. - Oh my God. - Do you remember that one? - The joke? - Yeah, that was the joke.

- And then the rabbit, like in the flashback, the rabbit is like talking in the flashback. He's like, "Touch me harder." - Oh yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, you'd never get away with that now. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - I think it's also back then, like there was money in it, but the money level scale is like very different. - Oh yeah, yeah. - And I think a lot of the dubbing is focused more on the big shows. - But aside from dubs, like what is like universally considered like, oh, this show just kind of sucks and it's just not very good.

It could be objectively bad. Like we can be talking like- - This is gonna be like hot takes though now. - Is that what "Trash Taste" is all about? - I don't know. I can't decide if the reason I thought Higurashi was shit was because I watched it in dub. - That's definitely the reason why it was shit. - 'Cause I thought the show kind of sucked after like episode two. I was like, wow, this is really fucking boring.

- Is it like that normally? Is it boring after episode two or is that because of the dub? - No, it really picks up like near the end, in my opinion. - Again, this is when I've watched Higurashi when I first started watching anime. So this is nearly like- - Also you've been tainted by the dub. - Yes. - I mean, we talked about the dub the other day very briefly. - I will say I've just recently watched Higurashi for the first time and I watched it

- Why? Why? - And it was a hilarious watch at times because- - It's bad. - The Higurashi dub is really bad. And it's not like, it's not the kind of bad where it's awful that you can laugh at. It's just, there's one good voice actor in the entire thing, I think. And everyone else is just pretty bad. - Wait, which character is it? That's the good one. - I think it's Shion.

- What color is her hair? That's how I remember. - Three, three. - Oh yeah, yeah. - What color is the hair? - She's the one who did the screaming, a lot of the screaming, right? I remember that was pretty good. - I've seen the dub scene where she like does the maniacal screaming. And I looked at that clip and I'm like, oh, the dub must be all right. - There was a lot of people who when the new show was announced were like, I hope you're bringing back the old cast. And I'm like, I hope they don't bring back the old cast.

- Why would you want that? - I mean, they met the Japanese cast. - Oh, the job as well. - Oh, really? - People were saying when they saw that the Japanese one was announced, they wanted to bring it back. They were like, because there's an argument to made where it's like, oh, the actors are probably better now and stuff. But it's also like-

- Yeah, sometimes it's like, just recast it, get a new slate going. - I mean, if they are going to bring back the original cast, please have a re-auditioning, you know? Or please make them audition because the quality of dubbing is, I'd say, a lot better now compared to back then. Back then there were definitely some very, very good dubs, but it was definitely a much larger spectrum than you get now. I mean,

- Some of the dubs that came out after Cowboy Bebop dub is like, oh, oh, these came out at the same time. Oh, okay. Oh no. - I remember when back in the day when it was like every dub was like mediocre to shit and then there was Cowboy Bebop. And everyone just points to Cowboy Bebop as the golden child to be like, yo, yo, not all dubs are bad. We got Cowboy Bebop. - It was like the DiCaprio. - I think as well, even people who,

- Like I think, I think right. Bryce Papenberg, I think, I don't know if this is true. I was told this. So a lot of the actors, even though they were the voice and there was no problem with the voice and it's great. They still have to audition again for season two, just to make sure that they still, they have it. - Just to make sure they still got it. - Just to make sure it wasn't a fluke. - I think I heard that. I don't know if that's true. I mean, I'm happy to be corrected on it, but that's what I was told. - But yeah, I mean, I thought, I mean, it might've been because I watched the dub as well, but I just, I just didn't care. - Why would you do that to yourself though?

- Okay, this is back. Okay, I don't know, you 100% did not have this face. - Of course not. - But when I first got into anime, I only watched up 'cause I came from like- - No, that's understandable. - Right? I was like, I'm not used to it. I rarely, I only do it once every while for a foreign film that everyone says is like amazing. I have to watch them. If I have to watch them talk French, fine. You know, don't like doing that. I'm getting excited about people.

But for a very long time, I watched only dub. And this just happened to be one of the top rated shows. And I watched a dub, thought it was shit. And then I just moved on with my life. And then obviously later on down the line, a show comes out that you're like, I really wanna watch the show. It's only available on sub, you make an exception. And then suddenly everything becomes the exception and you start watching only sub. I think a lot of anime fans go through that where they wanna watch dub if possible. And I kinda know, 'cause I'm like, you'll come around.

- You will, 'cause there'll be that one show that's coming out that you're like, all right,

- Demon Slayer is an episode 19. Everyone said it was hype. Yes, I'm watching it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause now I, whenever I get the chance, I watch dubbed all the time because there's- - It's come full circle. - Yeah, the chances where I can watch dub are like a lot less than just me watching sub. So if it's probably, you know, like if it's out on Netflix or something, I'm probably gonna wait for the dub like I did for The Great Pretender. 'Cause I was like, I knew I could watch it on Netflix in Japanese with subtitles, but I wanted to wait for it to be dubbed so I could enjoy it in,

in a different language. - I could not express my disappointment in the dub when they dubbed it like multilingual to begin with. So when they were speaking Japanese, they were speaking Japanese. And when they were speaking English, they were speaking English. - Right, right, right. - Only for the first 10 minutes.

And then they just cut, they put a note on screen saying, "All right, back to normal." - Yeah, they did that in the sub though. - Yeah, as well. - As well, yeah. - But like, why? - Just because I guess, well, because in the sub for the first 10 minutes, it was the most God awful English that I've ever heard. And I was like, "Thank God it's in Japanese now." - The French guy was okay. - The French guy was fine, but- - The Japanese guy sounded like, I mean,

- Here's the thing, right? - The Japanese guy was like, "I've done Duolingo." - He sounded pretty bad, but also, have you seen people speak English here? I don't mind it, 'cause when I heard the Japanese person speak broken English, I was like, "Yeah, that sounds right, yeah, cool." - Yeah, but can you enjoy the entire series as much? - Yeah. - Hearing that- - I would not be able to enjoy the series. - I would not be able to immerse myself. There's a difference between like- - I'd argue it's almost more immersive that he's speaking to me in broken English. - I mean, it's...

- Possibly too immersive in that sense. - I don't want that kind of immersion in my anime. - I can't imagine like- - We're in the anime. - I can't imagine him being like a fucking top class- - The French guy was so good though. He had a French accent. - The French guy was good, but I can't imagine like a class A actor, like scamming all these people with that like broken English. You know what I mean? That just- - Give me audio!

- But it's like sometimes in, you know, when you watch a Hollywood movie, they might have like not a main, but like a side character who's pretty prominent who speaks fucking broken English. - Yeah. - And that's fine. - I don't like it though. - Why don't you like it? - Because it's broken. - But they're trying their best to learn English. - No, but they're not like, they're never like the main character or the main focus.

- I guess, I don't know. There was something that was really like refreshing about hearing a guy with a Japanese accent who clearly was Japanese speak fluent like Japanese, then go to English. Even though I guess they were speaking mainly English. - Yeah, because if you're gonna have a show where they speak mainly English,

then why not just re-dub it so it's full English. - I'm sure there was actors out there who sounded Japanese but were like native quality English. That could have been, Ken Watanabe, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - Someone on Ken Watanabe's level definitely would have worked. - I love the French guy though. I love that he had a fucking thick French accent. - If we could get that level of, what's the word I'm looking for?

- Multilingual. - Multilingual fluency, I'm sure. - That's a term. That's a term that we definitely didn't just coin. - I know there's a term for it. I'm just drawing a blank now. - I don't fucking know. - Multilingual fluency. - I get what you mean though, don't worry. I get what you're saying. - 'Cause you know, like,

- You know, like Hollywood films, you always expect when someone's from that country that they come from that country, right? And like, yeah, okay. The budget is, it's not even in the same ballpark, right? But I think it's doable. I actually wouldn't have minded the great tender with the broken English the whole time.

- There's a level of broken English I would find acceptable and that was not like, I would just be like laughing half the time. - It's like, you know, I love Ken Watanabe, but I don't think I'd be able to watch an entire movie where 90% is Ken Watanabe talking. - Ken's English I feel is good enough. - It's good, but like even then it's like cutting close with me.

And like the English in "Great Pretender" was like nowhere near that level. - I guess, yeah. I'm sure there's actors out there who are Japanese who live in LA who could have like probably have done it. - Oh yeah, of course. But do they have the budget for it? Probably not. - Yeah. - I mean, that's the problem with anime isn't it? - It just felt like this was the perfect show to really try and pull that off. Just kind of disappointing. - Also, I think it's because like to most Japanese audiences who are watching "Great Pretender,"

that level of broken English is like, damn, this boy can speak English. He's basically fluent. - I'm sure Japanese side would have also liked to have maybe heard the same thing, right? Where with the English people trying to speak the Japanese, sounding somewhat competent. I don't know, maybe. - Yeah, maybe, maybe. I don't know. There might've been like a slight like racism problem though involved in that, right? Even though it's really not racism, but you know, people always throw that out, right? Being like, oh, they're speaking in a funny accent, must be racist.

- Yeah, I feel like the rules do work a bit differently from like live action film to dubbed and voice acting and stuff like that. Because the expectation isn't that you can get like a multilingual cast. It's that there's like one spoken language and you should speak to that one spoken language and everything else is like, it can be possible. - I guess like, yeah, when you watch,

what's a movie with like multiple languages? I guess 'cause if it has multiple languages, you wouldn't need a dub, right? - "Inchlorious Basterds"? - I guess, yeah, you wouldn't need a dub, right? - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's a bit confusing.

- Yeah, I mean, in "Inglourious Basterds" they put subtitles when they speak different languages. - They're like hard coded on the film. - Yeah, in the movie. - Yeah. I know 'cause I watched a movie recently that was about like World War II. Also really fucking awkward being the only white guy in like a World War II movie about like the Japanese being like destroyed. I was just sitting there in like my seat like this like,

- I'm not American. - Just waving the flags. - 'Cause like, you know, like when the fucking like, there was like the planes are being bombed and shit. And I'm like, do I like feel happy that the Japanese got like one tier? Are they happy or are they like darn those Americans? They got us. It was weird. - Damn it. - I didn't know like what the vibe is in the cinema. - Considering have we talked about that time we watched

- What's that film? Fukushima 50. - Oh my God. - Fukushima 50. - Holy shit, Joey wasn't there. - I wasn't there. - You weren't there. - It was fucking awkward as fuck. - Okay, so is it called Fukushima 50? - Yeah, Fukushima 50. - So there was this film that was made in Japan about the whole Fukushima tragedy. - And it's by Katakama. - And it's by Katakama. So we got invited to like a private screening of it. So we got an early copy basically. - To give our thoughts to that. - And you know, the whole film, you know,

- Ken Watanabe is in it. - Ken Watanabe is in it. - He's fucking amazing. - Fucking great. - Yeah, it's great. - I'd rate it a good like six out of 10. There was some really good moments and then there was some really boring moments. And then there were these moments in it where they focused on these American characters.

and the American military who wanted to help Japan. And for one, some of them weren't even American. - They were like South African. - Yeah, there was this one South African dude in it.

They were like South African in this military, American military boardroom. And he sounded, they didn't even try to fucking hide it. He sounded like such a thick, and it's not like a light accent, South African. It's really fucking full on. And I was just so confusing and yeah, go on.

- Yeah, and I can't remember the exact line, but there was this one. Do you remember the exact line? - I do, I do. - Okay, do you wanna explain the exact line? - I might be paraphrasing, but it was roughly something like- - So, okay, to explain the scene before he says the line. So obviously the Fukushima emergency was happening and the Americans were like discussing how to help the Japanese and how to provide aid and stuff like that. - All these scenes were shot like, so the Japanese scenes were shot like

The cinematography was on point. And then it cut to like a fucking sitcom quality looking camera. It looked really shit. And then the actors opened their mouth and you're like, oh fuck. And imagine a script, right? Of how Japanese people think that American people talk about the war. That's the only way I can describe how the Americans spoke because it was like, the one line was like when it like the,

it blew up, it cuts to the Americans and they were like, "Man, you think they would have learned how to handle nuclear technology after we nuked them." And I was like, that was like the line. And we all looked at each other like, "Did he just say that?"

- What the fuck? - We were in this private screening. We looked around, it was me, Connor, Sydney and Maylin and then just Japanese businessmen. - We were like, what the fuck? - The Japanese businessmen were fully immersed. They were quiet and they were like, yes, this is how Americans speak. And I was looking around at Connor, Sydney and Maylin and we were just all like, what the fuck did we just hear? Is this okay?

I'm like, what? They can't say that, can they? And then you were like, it was just so bad. It was so bad. All of it was so bad. - And then I just like to imagine the fucking South African guy cutting and being like, oh, I agree with everyone in this room right now. - That was the South African guy who said it. And it was just every time it was like, please don't cut to the Americans. Please don't cut to the Americans. And it cuts to the fucking Americans.

- It was just like an 80s sitcom. You're totally fucking right. And they had like this flashback scene as well with this one American general who had no play in the plot or whatever, had zero screen time. And then it just randomly cuts to a flashback of him in Japan. I'm like, why is this in the film? - And then like towards the end, there's just a shot of like the Americans coming and giving water bottles to them. And it's like, all right, sick.

- I'll take a bottle of Evian, hell yeah dude. Just been nuked, but thanks for the water, bro. - This will really save us, thanks America. - Like if that line was in an American film, the fucking shit storm, it would start. - Yeah, that's the thing, right? It's okay 'cause it's written like, I assume it was written by a Japanese and outsourced to like an American company on a bus.

I'm fucking guessing. - I can't say that the American like outsourcing was like, we have to translate this? Are we laughing? This is right, right? - Yeah, I mean, it was fine. I guess I just try not to go to films where Japanese the bad guys, I've kind of learned my lesson. - Yeah, it's brutal. - Yeah, I thought I was gonna watch "Tenet" but it turned out it was just a war movie. I genuinely got the wrong tickets. I went with the wrong thing.

I paid for the wrong tickets. Yeah, I wanted to watch Tenet. I did watch Tenet, really good by the way. - Yeah? - Watch it, yeah, it's basically- - I wanna watch that as well. - It's like Inception, but more mind fuck, I think. - Really? - Yeah. - I know, what were we talking about? - We were talking about bad anime and we got on another tangent. - Why do they talk about the cinema?

- I don't fucking remember. - Everyone can scroll back and find out, all right? We can't do that though. - Yeah, everyone's gonna be like, "It's so obvious, I know what you're talking about." I'll just, I'll rewind. Higurashi, right? Or some shit. - That's right, yeah. - We're talking about Higurashi. - Yeah, how you guys willingly- - Oh, the actors. Oh, "Great Pretender," that's it, the actors. - I am gonna watch the remake of Higurashi in Japanese. The reason I watched it in dub was 'cause like, you know,

- I'm gonna rewatch it in Japanese anyway. It's on Netflix. I might as well watch it. I thought it was an okay time. Honestly, I was paying half attention half the time 'cause I was fucking doing "Ark Knight" roles or something. I don't fucking remember. - I watched an episode of "Anahana" again. - Oh yeah? - I kind of thought it was shit.

- I've watched all of "Anuhana" and I- - I was looking at you to be like, don't you fucking dare finish the sentence. Don't you fucking dare. - Don't drop the S-bombs. - It was kinda shit. I watched "Anuhana" like three years ago and I fucking bawled my eyes out, great time. I watched the episode one again, I'm like, wow,

I stuck with this. - It's just episode, nothing happens in episode one. - Yeah, that's why it's shit. - Episode one was by far the worst episode of "Anahana." Episode one of "Anahana" almost put me off of "Anahana." - Yeah. - That makes it kind of shit, right? - Yeah, 'cause I thought when it first started, I thought it was like some lolly fan service bait. 'Cause I remember the scene where Menma sits on his lap and I'm like.

- Here we go, here we fucking go again. - I'm just, I was just like, another lolly bait fan service show. And then I think it was like halfway through episode, or like the end of episode two or three where I actually got emotionally invested. I remember episode one was like pretty bad. - Do you think if Anna Hanna came out today, it would be given the same level of respect?

that it's given. I feel like, I don't think it would hold up today. - I don't think so because at the time that "Anahana" came out, there were very few shows that went in that direction, I feel. And especially with how short the show was, it managed to do something in 12 episodes that a lot of anime struggle to do in 20 plus. - That's why I feel like it's kind of meh. Now, if you go watch it back, I don't think it- - Okay, to be fair though, you only watched episode one, right?

- I didn't rewatch it all again. I watched just episode one again. - Well then that's probably why you thought it was shit. 'Cause you watched the worst episode. - But after I watched it, I was like, how the fuck did I make it to episode two after I watched this? 'Cause it was shit. - Yeah, but that's the same as like every person who watches like the first episode of Steins;Gate.

And it's like, why would I continue to watch it? - I've seen one of "Steingate's Good", right? I think. - I think it was- - I thought it was really boring. - I don't remember. - I remember thinking- - I'm like an Alzheimer's patient half the time. I don't fucking remember anything. - Yeah, that's probably why. - For some reason with anime, like I do- - Why did you start to rewatch it? - 'Cause, who was it? Emily, Emma Richie told me she thought it was shit. And I thought, no, it's good, right?

- It's good. So I went back and rewatched it. - Yeah, but I guarantee Emily also only watched episode one, was like, "It's shit." - No, she watched all of it, she said. - Oh, well then she's just wrong. - But she watched it recently. Come on and defend yourself, Emily. - I've rewatched "Anaheim and Arebell" like four times, I think. - Four times? - Yeah, yeah. - What?

- I've only rewatched it once and I thought it was stupid. - Bro, we'd have flying cars by now if people stopped rewatching anime this many times. Are you fucking kidding me? Four times, why? - Because I remember, I think "Anahana" was the very first anime that got me to cry. 'Cause I remember back before I watched "Anahana", I was like stone faced. I can never cry during anime. - John's just like this watching anime.

- I'm a real man. And then like, I cried like a bitch the first time I watched "Anna Hunter." And like, after I watched "Anna Hunter," it was so fucking long before I could find like other shows that I could, you know, bring a tear to my eye. I tried watching "Clannad," that just didn't fucking happen. - It's so easy to make me cry though. Like I feel like just the right beeps and boops will make me cry. - You find one good Daft Punk song, you're like, I love these beeps and boops.

- Yeah, so like the reason I rewatched it so many times was whenever I felt like, I just need a good cry right now. - Yeah, yeah. - But so I would just put on "Anahana" just to like get, just to get those emotions out. - It takes you that much to get a cry out? - Before it did. - Can you not just like do it on command? - No. - Shit, I need a spin. - Can you? - Okay, if I'm fit, oh. I didn't know I put that there. Maylene's like, "What?" So.

- Gotta prepare myself. That's how I'm spilling tears already. That's how I do it on command. No, so if I feel like I need to cry, like, so you say you feel like you need to cry, right? - Yeah, yeah. - So if I feel- - I need that push. I need to like listen to that song or watch that anime. - I pretty much replicate what that guy did in the best cry ever video of like that. I basically like just sit there and I'm like,

And then once you get it started, it like goes, you know, for like 30 seconds. - Does that feel the same as normal crying? - Yeah, totally. - You can watch a fucking KFC commercial and start crying. - If I'm in the right mood, honestly, yeah. Like if there's like an emotional soundtrack to it, like I can get it. 'Cause the thing is, right, it's like wanking. It's just a different type of wank, right? In my mind, like they both feel the exact same when you've done it.

Like when you cry, it feels like a relief. When you wank. - Have you ever cry wanked? - I don't dare try to mix the two. - He hasn't read "Metamorphosis". - Read "Metamorphosis", you'll know the definition of a cry wank. - Okay, when you do that cry without a heart, do you not feel like when you stop crying, you're like,

- No, that's why I would put it on because before that, I just couldn't cry. - How long does that whole process take to make you cry though? - Well, if he has to watch all of "Anahana" that's like, what? - How many episodes do you wanna watch before you start crying? - I mean, okay, so, so, so. - Can you skip to the right part like in porn? - Okay, so if we go beyond just rewatching the entire thing, sometimes I would just like, if I needed a quick cry, like if I needed like a five, if I needed like a- - Time steps, time steps. - If I needed like a five minute wank or whatever and like a cry wank, I would just put on the final episode. I'd be like,

- Did you just say you cry-wanked at the ending of "I'm a heartless-" - No, no, no. Using the same analogy. If I needed that quick set. - Skip the blow job, right? - Yeah, exactly.

- Right to penetration. - Yeah, just straight into tears. You'd go to like the fucking end of "Anahana." If I needed like the full buildup or anything, if I had like a whole day to waste and I just felt, if I just felt emotional the entire day, if I just had a shit day and I just needed to cry it out, I'd just rewatch "Anahana." - I was about to say like,

I can't imagine someone being like, fuck, I need to cry. All right, time to invest six hours into this. - Yeah, I just put like, you say run on or something. And then like, I just start crying, man. - I completely like relate to the, if I need to cry, then like a good song will do that to me instantly.

Like I know, I have like a list of songs where immediately I'm just like, I know if I put this song on, I know the exact timestamp as to where the tears will start coming in. - Men should cry more.

- Yeah, I feel like men should cry more. Once I discovered "Anahana", I was on a fucking mission to find my next anime that could make me cry. - So you said that next time. - Yeah, it was because I don't know, I've always had trouble crying or showing my emotions publicly

or whatever, but for some reason, like watching and like the saddest thing could happen to me IRL, right? - Yeah, same. - And I just don't cry. I don't know why, like for example, like I fucking love my grandma, right? And I thought this entire time when I, you know, when she passed away and I went to her funeral, that I would shed some tears.

for some reason I just couldn't shed tears even though I knew I cared about her. Like I loved her as like family and like one of the person I like. - But that's the thing, like you don't have to like show that emotion express it like outside to feel it.

- Yeah, but for some reason watching a good scene in an anime or watching that one anime that just brings it out, that just gets it out for me. - I think it feels safe at home, right? Like you feel like, all right, I can be vulnerable, right? I can do this here. - Can you cry in front of other people though? - Yeah. - I can't. - When I'm in a movie with someone, it doesn't matter who it is, if it's fucking sad, I'll be like,

- Are you one of those people who like watches like something really emotional on a plane that you can cry on a plane? - I can cry on a plane. I think I have cried on a plane. I'm like them, they're like, "Fuck it, dude."

- 'Cause I'm definitely one of those people who like, if I watch, 'cause I watched "Machia" on a plane and I fucking cry like a bitch at the end, but I had to like really just fucking strain my ass. I cannot show weakness to the person sitting next to me. - I think it's a subconscious thing for me. 'Cause if there's other people around, like there are some times that I wanna cry. I wanna cry. And it just, sometimes when there's someone else there, I just lose like, for a split second, I lose the immersion. And then I'm like,

I got to build up myself like the tears have to build up again. Crying is hard for me, I don't know. I value it whenever something does make me cry, which is why I really value, for example, your name, because that was the only time I've ever cried in a cinema with other people around me.

But that was less because it was sad and more because it was like, there's just so many emotions right now. This is beautiful. I just have to let it out somehow. - I was on a train and I was on the, I think Yamanote line or something. I was watching a video and it's actually about like

- In Japan they have like seminars to make men cry. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that, yeah. - And so I was watching this video about like where they make, basically they just cry porn to a bunch of Japanese businessmen. And it was kind of like a game show almost in this video. 'Cause it was like this one guy was just refusing to cry. And then right at the final clip, like the sixth one, it's like a fucking tear as he's like.

- It's so funny. - Why is that so funny? - But yeah, as they were describing like this woman was describing what was in the clips to you, they didn't show you it, but just her describing it, I was fucking like tearing up on the Yamato, like fucking.

- So fucking sad. I just do something like, it was something like a kid's mom passes away and he's helping with his dad or something. I'm like, that's so fucking sad. Holy fuck. I don't want to go through that. - I don't know, man. It's like, I know there's nothing wrong with like crying in public.

- I don't know. - It's not like full on, I'm just like shedding tears. - Oh yeah, no, but even like shedding tears, like I have like, I don't know, I have some kind of restriction with it. - I think it's just a subconscious mental block. I don't know, 'cause I have exactly the same thing and I wish I could like bring out my emotions more easily, but because it takes me so many fucking steps to get to that point, you know, that's why. - I don't give a fuck though.

- It's not about giving a fuck. Like I don't give a fuck, but there's, I don't know, something like- - Do you give a fuck? - No, I'm like, in my head, I'm like, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry. - Now!

And then something in my brain is just like, "Nah, don't do it, don't do it." - Yeah, I guess there is like some mental block that even when you know you should, it's like your brain is like, "But don't." - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think it's just the way I was raised, I guess. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, sometimes you've realized, man, the way you were,

how you're raised as a kid is pretty fucking important to me. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause it like affects how you subconsciously think for like the rest of your life. And it takes so much more effort to unlearn something. - Yeah, there's been a lot of that. - Than to like relearn, to like learn something for the first time. - Did you ever like catch yourself doing something that your parents used to do to you when you were a kid? Like the way they would talk or like- - Oh yeah. - I remember like,

I think, what was it? Like my dad used to have this really specific way of making excuses up. And I caught myself doing it one time and I was like,

"Fuck, I picked it up." - It's that moment where you're like, "Shit, I am my dad's kid." - "Fuck, I'm becoming the post." - "I thought I was superior this whole time, but I was just equal." - That's the thing, right? It's like, you listen to your dad doing it all your life. You listen to it all your life, and then when you get to your teens and you hear it, you make fun of them for being like, "Oh, look at this bullshit." - "I'm never gonna be like that." - And then years later, you catch yourself doing it,

- Oh no. - Fuck. - I was the same this entire time. - Yeah, it's been a lot of like- - Always has been. - I've had to like physically like, and mentally just be like, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this thing, don't do this thing. 'Cause I thought they were like weird things, nothing bad, but like just little quirks that my parents would do. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. - There's just like certain ways you say things where you're just like, this is the first time me saying it, but for some reason I've heard it before. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, fuck my parents did it. They planted the seed.

- But yeah, I mean, "Anahana", I still love it to this day. - Mid, mid. As Joey loves the word mid. - If that's the case, what anime would you recommend to someone to make them cry in? - "Golden Time".

- Golden time? - Is that the right name? - Yeah, golden time. - I always fucking call it something different by accident. Like golden week or some shit. - I mean to me golden time is in the same category as Anna Hanna for like- - There's a cult though. I like the cult. I'm kidding.

I just found that whole cult arc really dumb. And I really enjoy how stupid that was. - I can't even remember that one. - I can't even remember that. - There was like a part where she was like brainwashed in a cult or some shit that happened. I think so. I don't know. Again, I'm basically an Alzheimer's patient in waiting. So I mean, I'm probably the wrong person. - I definitely didn't get a cry boner though from watching "Golden Time." - What is another show that's like really good cry porn in anime? What's the best cry porn anime?

- I mean, anything by- - Shinkai. - Jin Maeda, right? - Yeah, anything by Maeda Jun, anything by Shinkai. - I'm not one of those people who knows directors. - Maeda Jun is like, or Clannad, Angel Beats. - Clannad, Angel Beats. - Little Busters. Anything by Key Studios, basically. - Yeah. - Is like pretty good cry porn. - I didn't find Angel Beats as sad as everyone else.

- I cried at the Angel of the Angels. - It was obvious it was gonna happen though. - Yeah. - I still cried. - I felt exactly the same way. It was my same problem with Clannad, just less stretched out where it was so obviously trying to make you cry. It was, yeah, it's literally just cry porn where you just,

- You're gonna cry, aren't you, you little bitch? - It's designed just to like make you cry and make you shed tears. - Yeah, but I have like an initial, like my cry boners rock hard the moment I see Maya de Jun, you know what I mean? It's like, I know, it's like, I didn't even have to watch it and I'm already prepared. - So I just Googled saddest anime. - Okay, okay. - Just saddest anime and in Google it says number one, Anohama.

- See Emily, even Google agrees. - Plastic memories, which is, it was... - Plastic memories is okay. - It was, you knew, okay, again. - It was just basically cancer with waifus, basically. - Yeah, that's what it was. - It's like the I wanna eat your pancreas, right? - To a certain extent. - Actually, I wanna eat your pancreas, it's fucking brilliant. - I wanna eat your pancreas, I fucking cried. - Angel Beats. - Angel Beats, okay. - Madoka Magica?

- I didn't cry at the end of "Madoka Magica." - Okay, there's a difference between sad and bleak. I feel like "Madoka Magica" is more on the bleak side. - Yeah, "Madoka Magica" is like grief crying. - There's "Guilty Crown" here. - "Guilty Crown"? - Why? - I cried because of how bad the ending was, if that's what they mean by that. - Actually, you know what? I really like "Guilty Crown." I'm gonna say it. I like it. - The ending though? - I like all of "Guilty Crown." - Really?

- Really? - Yeah. - You know what Connor? I'm absolutely there with you. - Yes! - The one fucking time me and Connor agree. - People need to stop comparing it to like a shitty Code Geass. Code Geass is in its own world. - I don't compare it to that. I don't compare it to Code Geass, but I still thought the ending was mid. - It wasn't the best ending in the world, but man, it was a fucking good ride. - It was entertaining as fuck. - Did you cry though?

I think I probably did. - I was actually this close to crying and that's, it wasn't because of the story. It was just because of how good- - The music! - How good "Sono Songs" was. - Yeah!

- The beeps in the boots was so hype. - Here's the thing. The thing about me and crying is that music has so much more power over me than it does. If there's a good soundtrack, I'm like almost always close to crying. - Why do you think I cry to everything Maeda Jun does? - It's 'cause he makes the music as well, which makes me cry like a bitch. - But like, I don't know. Like Guilty Crown had its like emotional moments and obviously, you know, the soundtrack was good, but like, I don't know.

I don't know, my cry burner was like a half chub the entire time. - I really liked it. - It's like, it was so close. - Maybe it's because I haven't watched it in four or five years, but maybe it's rose tinted glasses I'm looking through right now. But I remember I really fucking enjoyed it. - I really enjoyed it, not in the sense where, hey, I'm gonna recommend this as a good show. I really enjoyed it in the sense where it was just, here's a lot of dumb anime tropes that I enjoy. I don't care if they make any sense whether they put these anime tropes in, but-

It's just like a lot of good popcorn fun. - Yeah, yeah. - That was a great show. - Yeah, it kind of reminds me, I remember when Darling in the Franks first aired, I called Darling in the Franks the guilty crown of this generation. And I kind of still agree with myself on that point where Darling in the Franks got stupid as fuck, but it was entertainingly stupid, I would say. - Oh yeah, of course, of course.

I mean, the thing about Darling in the Franxx is that I went through a whole fucking emotional arc with it because it was the first half I would say was actually legitimately good. - Did you watch it weekly by the way? - Yeah, I did watch it weekly. So I've already thought that Darling in the Franxx was a great character drama with mechs in it. And I was super, super emotionally invested in this as a series.

And then the fucking space thing happens. And then it went- - And then Trigger was like, let me introduce myself. - Yeah, exactly. And my enjoyment for "Darling the Franks" kind of just shifted off that. I wasn't emotionally attached to you more. It wasn't that same kind of enjoyment. It was just the, "Look at all this shit happening." - I think when you watch a show weekly, I think like you're almost more likely to think it's better than it is.

if it's like holding your attention. - I disagree. - Really? - I think watching something, like not having to wait and just marathoning something. I've enjoyed shows that I haven't enjoyed weekly that I've watched and that I've marathoned. - Really, like what? 'Cause I almost find that when you wait a week for something that you're kind of excited for, you almost like hype yourself up for it and like think that it's better than it is. - Yeah, I agree with that.

- It's hard for me to say though, because I haven't watched an anime weekly since like high school. - I've been watching Re:Zero weekly and I think maybe there's an aspect of me that thinks it's better because the mystery is being like drip fed because I'm having to wait a week at a time. - Right, but I think that only works because it's a mystery. - I actually, yeah, I actually, Re:Zero is that exact show. I remember kind of like,

I remember enjoying it, watching it weekly and I kind of only kept up with it because it was my job. And I remember rewatching it all at once after there was no pressure to like keep up with it or review. And I enjoyed it way more watching it all at once and not having to wait weekly, even though I knew what was gonna happen. And that's why I haven't like, I've kept up kind of with Re:Zero season two, but I watch it in chunks.

Not completely up to date with it yet. - 'Cause I wonder, 'cause I watched Attack on Titan season three part two. Is that the title? - Yeah, that's the title. - The latest one, right? - I watched that weekly. Yeah, the latest one. And I don't know if it's because like, I watched it weekly and every single week was like, oh my God, I have to wait a week. This is so hype. This is the best thing ever. But like in my memory,

- Season three part two was just fucking like God tier. - I marathoned it and it was still good. - Is it still like that amazing? Even if like- - I mean, I don't know how you're feeling about it. - I feel like it's probably one of the best anime I've ever watched. If not like, it's like top two or three. - I mean, I binged the entire thing in a day. So it's fucking amazing. - We've already sung the praises of "Attack on Titan" a ton on this podcast. - I think though, like that's one of the few rare shows where it's like weekly or not,

it's just objectively a fucking great show. The experience I think is just as powerful. - Spoiler alert, just for like one minute here. Whenever the video comes up my recommended of Levi versus the Beast Titan, I'm like, I've got time. - I can watch it again. - I've got time for three more minutes of that. All right, spoiler alert. - Yeah, no, I agree. - Well, we somehow got onto good anime now. Let's go back to that anime, the worst anime ever. - Oh, I don't know.

- I mean, what's like a famous, like what's like a show that is like not universally praised, but it's like, not like, it's not like "Ghazi's Wing" or like "Miles of Destruction" where like the only reason why it's known is because it's bad.

- I don't know because here's the thing, if there's a bad anime, I'm likely not to watch it or finish it, right? Because, okay, here's the thing, if something's as bad as "Gazi's Wing" or something, then I'm gonna finish it, but I still think it's good because it gives me some kind of entertainment value. What I don't like, the worst thing an anime can do for me is just be boring. - It's be mid. - Not gonna lie, go to high school, kinda shit.

- Kind of shit. - Oh, he said it. - I'm gonna say it, it's kind of shit. It's kind of boring. - You mean God of Mid-School? - Yeah, I love it. - God of Mid-School. - When I made a tweet about Rent-A-Girlfriend, there was like three people who were like, "Yo, God of High School is the best anime this season." I'm like, "What season are you watching?" - Watching God of High School just makes me so disappointed. I'm like the disappointed dad, 'cause I look at some of these fight scenes

And I still think choreography and animation wise, it's probably some of the best fight scenes you can find all year. So far I can't think of a better anime. - I think we've said like, it's pretty shit. Just disappointing. It was so popular. - Yeah. And I don't know, I've heard from a lot of webtoons readers that it basically skipped through everything and just gave you the fights.

- That's not how to do it. - No, exactly. But I mean, it just gave me the feeling of just, I don't know, watching like a very good fight animation on like YouTube or something where you have these fight scenes and it would have worked better being clipped and put onto YouTube with no context than it would have being in like a full narrative. - That's what I watched. Like, 'cause I didn't actually watch the anime. I just saw the clips on YouTube and I'm like, oh, there's some cool fight scenes, but.

- Is it enough for me to get invested into the show? Probably not. - I watched like 10 episodes of Naruto like last year. - Why? - 'Cause I wanted to get into it. - Like first season? - Yeah. - Like as kids, Naruto? - Yeah, yeah, like the very- - Oh, okay. - And that was horrible. I was like, oh my God, even the story feels like filler. - Yeah, that's why I never got into Naruto, dude. - And like I'm watching this and I'm 10 episodes in and I'm like, nothing has happened. We've like left the village.

And we've done like, I've watched more opening and ending than I have like show development. And then they did that annoying show and thing, which I think should be like, it should be illegal. You should be put in prison if you do it, where you put four minutes of the previous episode at the start of the episodes after the intro. So it's only six minutes of like shit that you've already seen and don't need to see.

- In the industry we call that Shonen recap syndrome. - Yeah, and then 14 minutes of the actual episode and then like seven minutes outro somehow they find a way to drag it out. - The last like six arcs of One Piece is that. - Yeah, I was about to say, I don't know how there are still anime only watches of One Piece when that was like literally every episode for the past six years. - I remember the last I watched of One Piece was the Punk Hazard arc and literally every fucking episode was like,

Here's an extended opening and then 10 minutes of filler, five minutes of actual content and then an extended ending. - It's cause there's only one, they only adapt like one chapter per episode sometimes. And you know, granted the chapters are dense as fuck. You compare the chapters today of One Piece to like some of the early chapters. And it's like Oda added like a light novel into his chapters in between these like- - There's so much dialogue on the page. - There's so much dialogue and it's so small and it's so concentrated.

But yeah, I mean, it still doesn't add up to like one entire anime episode worth of content in my opinion. So yeah, read the manga of "One Piece." - Which why should I gone? It's too long gone. It's too fucking big. - That's the worst argument I've ever heard anyone say.

I don't want to, it's like, why don't you get a degree Connor? It's only four years. Come on, man. Why aren't you doing it? It's so good for you. I got a degree and it was shit. - Okay, but- - Yeah, but if you enjoy the degree then- - Okay, what if there's this really good thing

Do you want it to like end quickly? - No. - Or do you want it to keep going on for as long as possible? - No. - 'Cause that's one piece, right? Like you're talking about it like it's a commitment. If you're into one piece- - It is a commitment. - Like you could say the same thing about JoJo. You know what I mean? - I guess, yeah. But at least JoJo there's like parts so you can like stop- - Yeah, well, in one piece there's arcs. - Arcs are different to parts though. - I don't know, man. I stopped at the Punk Hazard Arc and I could easily go back to it.

- I wouldn't feel comfortable stopping mid arc. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - But that's the thing- - Sorry, in between arcs. I wouldn't feel comfortable. - No, no, no, but that's why I ended until the arc was over to like take a break. - Yeah, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. - Why? - 'Cause it's the same show. It's the same characters. They're still doing this adventure. I'm not finished. I can't just stop. - It doesn't matter because you're gonna get Shonen Recap Syndrome at the beginning of the next one anyway.

So it doesn't matter. - I think the thing is, is because it's also daunting for the fact that if I get into it, it's great that there's that much, but it's also terrifying that there's that much. - But that's the thing, right? Like you're saying it in the pretense of like, oh, I'm probably not gonna enjoy "One Piece," right? - No, no, no, no, I'm saying what's worrying is if I do enjoy "One Piece," 'cause I'm not gonna get anything done for like five years. I'm gonna be there just fucking reading about how Luffy's arms had ripped off by,

- I completely get what you're saying because I was having this thought experiment of if I wasn't already into one piece. - Would you get into it? - Could I convince, could future me or could like, could I convince an alternate universe of me who hasn't seen one piece to now get into one piece? And I'm like, that is so fucking difficult. I don't know how I would convince myself to get into one piece.

- My schedule was already pretty rammed with not reading manga. And the manga I do get to read is very small parts. And I wouldn't want to read something, 'cause I don't read several manga in one go. I read one manga at a time. I read it all, I go on to the next. And I don't know why my brain just can't, I don't really enjoy. - 'Cause I'm exactly the same as Connor when I'm into something. - It has to be that. - I am into something. - No, I get that. - I literally lost fucking,

two days of doing nothing because I caught up to Rent-A-Girlfriend and that was just like my obsession for that two days. If Rent-A-Girlfriend was like 500 chapters, I would have just lost like- - Oh yeah, yeah. I dedicated like an entire month to just reading "Barky". - How many chapters of "One Piece" is there? - Almost a thousand. - Yeah. But like on the flip side, I really value that because it's so like, part of me as like,

part of me of like has, who is someone who has been an anime and manga fan for so long, I kind of miss the feeling like you

you had as a kid where you could just lose an entire week to just watching this anime. Because is it like, is it, are you guys the same way? It's like so hard for you to like marathon stuff now. - Yeah, yeah. Like, especially if it's like over 12 episodes, it's really hard for me. I'm like, oh God. - It's really hard for me to marathon something. But that's why when I'm like into a show and I'm like properly into it and I'm just losing days, I really fucking value that. And I search for it wherever I can, but it's,

so hard for me to find. Even if there's like technically a good show or a good series, which I can say, yeah, this is a good show. - I felt really fucking good when I finally marathon Demon Slayer in like two days. I was like, damn, I haven't felt this good. I actually finished a show that was more than 12 episodes, what the fuck? - Yeah, I miss the feeling of just having fucking days and time pass where you're not like- - I was discussing why it sucks to be a fucking adult.

- Damn, I just have like no fucking time. - I have no time to marathon. - Why am I working all the time? What's up with that? - But like, I will say that if you do want that feeling, just get into one piece. - I'm 1000 chapters.

doesn't sound that bad. Like I read all of "I shield." - There's more volumes of JoJo than there is one piece. - Is there more chapters of, oh, I guess there's technically more. Yeah, I mean, I read five through seven of JoJo's in like, I think just over a week. - Yeah, you could easily get from like the alabaster to like the mermaid. - That was like a week of me sitting in my bed with a cup of tea nonstop, just like.

- Well, that's the thing, right? It's like, if you get into it, then it won't really matter. - Yeah, but that's the problem is that I'm gonna lose three weeks of my life minimum. - Yeah, but you're gonna enjoy those three weeks. - You're gonna remember those three weeks of your life and you're gonna look back at it. - What will I have to show for it, Garnt? - And then you'll finally be able to jump into a conversation about "One Piece" and being like, yeah, I fucking remember that. - If there was like an Xbox, like a real life Xbox achievement where you can be like, I've read "One Piece" and you can have like this badge that says you've read "One Piece"

- If it was on my driving license being like all in one piece. - You need something tangible to show for it for you to be able to invest yourself into it is what I'm hearing. - Yeah, I guess I don't really, how much free time do I have? It kind of varies, I guess, on the day. 'Cause like some, we're YouTubers, right? So some days I'm working fucking all day nonstop. Some days I'm sitting there,

- I'm trying to think of a video idea and nothing happens and I just didn't do anything all day. Played a game of league maybe, I don't know. But like if I read something, it's so hard to see that as like a, I'm not the type of person who reads casually. It's like, if I read, I need to like focus and decide that I'm gonna read and it'd be a long thing. I can't just be like, yeah, I'll read a chapter for five minutes again. - I can't do that either. - There's people I know who can pick up a book, read two pages and be like, nice, that was good. I'm gonna go and do the rest. I'm like, what? - Yeah.

- That's like getting a semi and being like, I had a good wank. - I need like a minimum of like five chapters to fully get myself in like the reading zone. And then once I'm in that zone, I'm like, okay, don't talk to me. - Yeah, exactly. - It's like that sense of flow. You know what I mean?

- I don't understand people who can like read a book and watch a movie at the same time. - Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. - Or like have the TV on in the background. - I can have it on the background. I won't pay attention to it. - I need complete silence to read. - Oh yeah, that's because like every time on like Aki's story, she comes into you reading manga, you're like, "What woman?"

And it's like, there's no noise in the room. - I'm like, silence woman, I need my total peace to read this. - He's holding like fat lolly asses volume one. He's like, what is it woman? Oh, can't you see I'm reading literature? - Fat lolly asses. - Make it a manga, I don't know. - That's an oxymoron, isn't it? - It's like a color book. - I'll just draw a coloring book.

- All right boys, I have a question. I wanna know, is there any anime out there that you, you know, maybe have a hot take on like an anime that you think is either really good, an anime that you like that is highly praised and widely accepted to be amazing that you think isn't that good? Or is there a show that everyone thinks shit that you think is pretty good? - Joey's already had his with fucking school days. - 'Cause.

- I really liked the "Cowboy Bebop" dub, but the show itself, I didn't think it was that good. I'm gonna be honest. I liked it, I liked it, but I didn't think it was the masterpiece worthy. Everyone says it's like- - I hate that I can't disagree with you. - Like it's- - Like the dub- - I preferred "Samurai Champloo" a million times more. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - Nah, nah, you're both wrong. - A million times more. - I was about to say, I have exactly the same opinion just with "Samurai Champloo." - No! - "Samurai Champloo" was a million times better. - To me,

I don't know what it was about Samurai Champloo. I thought the story, the style, the music was like amazing. And the music is amazing in Cowboy Bebop, don't get me wrong. But like the reasons why I liked Cowboy Bebop was

well, one the dub and two nothing to do with the story. I thought the story was kind of like, all right, okay. - I just feel like Cowboy Bebop had some really interesting ideas 'cause it's kind of like Cowboy Bebop isn't like a long, like it doesn't have like a very long overarching story arc. It's more of these individual ideas that, you know, that's Watanabe wanted to explore. And I thought it had some really good ideas and so did Samurai Champloo,

I don't know, something about Samurai Champloo just made me feel like the ideas just weren't as interesting on an individual level. - Can you sit here and say to me that Cowboy Bebop deserves to be in the top five as it always is on every single- - Yes. - Really?

- Yes. - Really top five? - Okay. - Like when I see it- - Like of all time. - Like when I see it, it's like those people who put Citizen Kane at number one on movies. It's like, yeah, I know movies. Citizen Kane's my favorite. I know the movies. - Oh yes, Rosebud, my favorite quote. - It's like, when I see that on someone's like top five, I immediately think they're like trying too hard to be a critic. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause to me,

- Again, I don't think of anime in like a critical sense most of the time. I just thought when I watched it, I was like, it's really fucking cool. Tons of style. I just thought the story was kind of meh.

- Yeah, I mean, if you go into it for like a big story, then it's- - Just as a show. - Okay, so what about the "Samurai Champloo" story was good then? - Okay, this has been a long time since I watched both. - Same here, same here. - But I don't know, I remember just really having fucking a ton of fun every single episode of "Samurai Champloo." - To me, the story and like character, like how much I enjoyed the story and the characters of both "Samurai Champloo" and "Cowboy Bebop"

were around equal. It was everything else around the show, like the music, the soundtracks, like the effects, like the animation stuff that made Samurai Champloo just that much better. - I did not give a fuck about the fucking annoying kid on Cowabeebop. - I mean, I didn't give a fuck about Fu. What were they trying to do again? Finding the samurai that smells like sunflowers.

Like the plot doesn't matter in either fucking show. - I like the characters more in "Samurai Champloo" as well. - I agree, I agree. - Like I thought because we had only three of them, it was like, we got a lot more time to like flesh it out. Whereas they just brought this fucking sidekick character and a dog and I'm like, why? - To be fair, I love Ayn though. - Ayn is great. - Ayn is dope. - Spike is like one of the coolest anime characters of all time. - I think Mugen was cooler to be honest with you.

- Just saying, I think Mugen was way cooler than Spike. - I think Spike is dope, but if I had to like say which one was cooler, definitely Mugen. - Yeah, but Spike can beat Mugen. - Oh my God.

- My dad works for Microsoft. - Would Spike be able to survive AIDS? - My character can beat up your character. Have you thought about that? What's Mugen gonna do, swing a samurai sword? Spike can just fucking shoot you, man. - Mike. - Mike. Where's Mike? - Mike Spiegel. - Fuck, where's Mike?

- I mean, I don't know. - No, I just- - Cowboy Bebop has been one of those shows that I do think is great, but it's just whenever I see it in top fives, I'm like, you're just churning out of your ass. - Yeah. Okay, like I have a very similar opinion, not of Cowboy Bebop, but just- - Evangelion? - Akira. Akira, I think- - I thought you guys were gonna shout at me when I said Evangelion. - I think Akira's mid as fuck.

- You're dead to me. You are absolutely dead to me. - I think it's one of those things where it came out at the time and it was a game changer at the time, but I don't think now it holds up as well. - It is still a game changer to this day. - I've rewatched it several times trying to find what about it was so amazing. And every time I rewatch it, I'm like, man, the animation still holds up. The animation still holds up. It's just like, it just, it's just, I don't know.

- Nothing much about it. - You wanna share your thoughts on that? - This is my last episode of trash day, so I'm leaving after this. I can't handle it. Okay. - Okay. - Akira, all right. Akira to me is like, I think to this day, it still stands as one of the most unique cinematic experiences in anime.

And I'm not just talking about that. - Wrong, okay, you're wrong. - And I'm not just- - I'll agree with that. - And I'm not just talking about that in terms of like the flashy colors and the fantastic animation. - Don't worry. - It's like, "Oh, it looks pretty." I'm not just talking about it like that, right? But like, I just, I don't know. Like I've rewatched "Ikira" so many fucking times. And every time I've rewatched it, especially like you have to see it in a big screen as well, in my opinion. Like I went to go see it. Okay, 'cause I went to go watch it. Obviously I wasn't born when it came out in cinemas. - Yeah.

like a couple of years ago, they did a re-screening of it in Sydney, in Australia. I think it was like the 30th anniversary of the movie or something on the big screen. And like, I loved it on the TV, like watching it in my room and shit was like, fuck yeah. But watching it in the cinemas was like, holy shit. Like, this is like an adventure. Like this is just like such an out of body experience with just the music is God-like, the fucking voice acting is incredible. Like everything about that has,

every single element of that movie has a quality that can still stand to like modern anime cinema in my opinion. - I agree with that. - And like, and I think that's why it's just so incredible because you watch it and you forget, oh shit, this was made 30 fucking years ago. - Yeah, but that's my point. I completely agree that it's an experience that can stand out in modern anime cinema. - Right. - But I'm saying it's definitely not as mind blowing as it was back then. - I don't know man, I think it's still mind blowing.

- Every time I rewatch it, I feel like damn son. - I feel like I can agree with both. - I'm not saying it's the best movie. - No, no, no, of course, of course. - But Jesus Christ, it's good. Like I could easily read, have you read the manga? - I have not. I think that's part of why I didn't enjoy it 'cause it just felt like it kind of just ended.

It didn't feel like a complete experience. - Well, yeah. - Does the manga continue after? - The manga is twice as long. So the movie actually, the ending of the movie is completely original because Otomo released the movie halfway into Akira's serialization.

Because the first like three volumes were so popular that they were like, we gotta make a movie of this. And they made it, but they were like, but I haven't finished the manga yet. What am I gonna do? - Bro, I'm trying to finish it. - So the movie is completely original. And like the manga continues for another like four volumes after the point of the movie. And it's insane. It's fucking insane. Like I highly recommend it. And I'm not just saying that it's like a super fan of Akira. I just think in terms of like storytelling and just like

I'm just throwing fucking key terms. - Characters. - Characters, storytelling, development. Honestly though, it's good shit. - How many more buzzwords can I throw in? - Yeah, right? - Synergy. - Plot progression. - Synergy. - Synergy. - My God. - Again, I don't think it's the greatest piece of anime cinema out there, but I easily, it's one of those movies where I'm like,

don't be fooled by the fact that it's 30 years old. I still think I can easily recommend it to new watchers. - Yeah, you can definitely still watch it today and not feel like it's dated, especially as like, for me, like a visual experience and everything like that. I just feel like, you know, it's, I don't know. Maybe it's cause like cyberpunk has just kind of died recently for like the longest time until what recent cyberpunk anime have we got recently? - "Adora Hedorah."

- Dora Hedora. - It's pretty good. - I mean, seeing a world like that is a lot less, you know, seeing a world like that now is a lot less common than it was back then when cyberpunk was kind of in its prime. - Oh yeah, 80s was like fucking cyberpunk. - Hell yeah. - So like you can still watch Akira and feel like, hey, this is something I can't really get today just because cyberpunk is just, is really rare to find nowadays. - Because to me like Akira is like one of those movies, like those anime movies where,

every single person I've asked who is clearly not an anime fan and I asked them what anime have you watched or enjoyed? 99% of them will say, oh, I watched Akira and I thought it was fucking amazing. - Yeah, it's just a good movie. - It's just a really good movie. It almost defies anime in a sense, which is really weird because it is- - Like the love movies. - Which is really weird. - Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean defies anime? What does that mean? What does that mean?

- It goes beyond, like it has an enjoyment factor in it. I can't exactly like describe, I'm sure someone can explain a bit of me, but there's something about Akira, the experience of watching Akira that you don't necessarily even have to really like anime to fully immerse yourself in. - No, I agree. - Which is really weird because when you actually watch Akira, it is anime as fuck.

Like everything about that is so anime. And yet it's somehow is almost not anime at the same time. It's really hard. I don't know how to explain it. - I can relate to what you're saying. To throw out my second hot take, I guess. I don't know if I've said this on the podcast before, but I think I've said it in other places, but I fucking hate Ghibli movies, man. - I only liked like three. - I think I like,

- One or two and even like- - Which ones? - Princess Mononoke and Nazca. - Do you like Howl's Moving Castle? - No. - I really like Howl's Moving Castle. - I really liked Howl's Moving Castle. - And the reason I don't like Ghibli is just because I don't like Disney. And I don't know, because Ghibli, like when I see a Ghibli movie, I'm like, this is an anime.

- Like this isn't anime, this is a fucking Disney movie. - Can we also talk about how Hayao Miyazaki's a fucking asshole? - Oh yeah, he's an absolute cunt. - Did you see the clip of like him going to his son's premiere? - Oh, you gotta recommend that clip as well. - So this clip, right? You can search for it, but he goes to his son's premiere who's making a movie, right? He's a director. And he fucking walks out of the premiere halfway through being like,

he's not an adult yet. And I'm like, oh, he's fucking one of those dads. He's like, he's not an adult yet at like 30 because I haven't deemed him worthy. It's like, get, get.

Shut the fuck up. - Yeah, he goes out for like a cigarette and he's just like, "Yeah, this movie's trash. "You could have done better. "He hasn't grown up enough." - Yeah, and it's like, "Are you fucking kidding me?" - As if Miyazaki hasn't made shit movies himself. Like, I love "Ghibli", don't get me wrong, but have I enjoyed every single "Ghibli" movie? Absolutely not. - I just hate the kind of director who is like, "Everyone else is unimportant and my ideas are the best." And he gives off that vibe and as much as, you know,

cultural icon for many parts. And you don't want to be an asshole, you don't want to shit talk anyone for no reason. - Yeah, because like- - Every single time you see him in an interview or do anything, he just seems kind of like a cunt to be around. You would hate to be around him. - You can tell like he's such a close-minded dude because apparently the only movie that Hayao Miyazaki has made that he himself cried to was "The Wind Rises." And I can tell you that is the most mid-Ghibli movie I've ever watched.

- I heard good things about it. - It's good, but compared to other Ghibli movies, it is mid as fuck. - What are your favorite Ghibli movies then? - "Princess Mononoke" is easily my favorite. I mean, obviously I grew up watching like "Nausicaa" and "Totoro" and stuff like that. "Howl's Moon Castle" was really good. I thought "Ponyo" was okay.

- I think Ponyo is very much the jubilee of the new generation. Sorry, the Totoro of the new generation. - Totoro, oh my fucking God. I fell asleep during Totoro, man. I'm like, why am I watching a kid's show now? Why do you expect me to be entertained? - Yes, Totoro is a kid's movie. That's why I don't recommend it to people. It's a kid's movie. - Yeah, but so is Toy Story, bro. I can watch Toy Story.

- Toy Story though, Pixar has done a thing where they've managed to intermingle like very adult humor into it. - Kids like media is great when it can be enjoyed by everyone. - But Japanese media does not do that. - It does sometimes though. - Not Ghibli though. - Yeah, not Ghibli. - What is it the fucking one with the pig flying?

- And I fucking had to turn it off 20 minutes in. I'm like, I'm so fucking bored. - I enjoyed it, but I thought it was okay. Like it's not amazing. - That's basically my experience with a lot of Ghibli movies is that this is the most okay film experience I've had. And I like, okay. The reason I really can't get into a lot of Ghibli movies is that they just don't feel anime. I don't know. I don't know because they feel like,

Disney movies, right? And I know like Miyazaki's gone on record, like criticizing a lot of anime animators who are like, man, they're just like inspired by other people working in anime rather than inspired by real life. And I'm like, this is why I go into the medium, dude. I like that. - It's the whole, I hate the tacos thing, right? - Why do you hate the thing that I like?

- And also just on top of that, knowing that he's an asshole makes it so much worse for me to like try and enjoy it. 'Cause I think you can make great shit without being a huge cunt. - Oh yeah, absolutely. - I think maybe if you cure every single type of cancer in your lifetime, go ahead, be an asshole. Like you probably did, you get that pass. - It's that whole thing of like, you should separate the creator from the creation. - I disagree with that. - But sometimes it's really fucking

- It's fucking hard not to do that. - It's really hard. - When a person markets their work so heavily as their work, right? It's a Hayao Miyazaki film. It's not a film, it's a Hayao Miyazaki film, right? So then it's like, well, he's kind of a cunt. So it's kind of like, you know. - Yeah, I agree. - But I mean, sometimes it doesn't detract on like how good this specific work is just because you enjoy work doesn't necessarily mean you, you know,

I forgot the first thing of what I was saying. Just because you enjoy the work doesn't mean you can't, you have to like- - I agree with that. But it's also like when you don't like the work, knowing the guy is kind of a bit of a hassle. You're like, God, I fucking hate this. - Yeah, but most people don't know that. - When I turned off Porco Rosso halfway through, I was like, you're not an adult yet. You haven't done it. You haven't done it. - I walked out of my room. I had a cigarette. - I had to walk out the room, put my arm on the doorframe.

- It's not ready yet. He wasn't ready. - It's weird though, because like to me, like my favorite Miyazaki film isn't even a Ghibli film. It's the fucking Lupin the third movie. Like way before Ghibli, the castle. That shit's fucking dope.

But like, yeah, I don't know. It's great. - I wonder, was he always like that? Or is that something that happens when everyone tells you you've come down from God to bless us with animation? - I'd say it's the latter. - He's also like fucking 150 years old,

- I think if I was that old. - He's retired like eight times. - I'd like to think when I get old, I'll be the fun kind of old guy. The one who's like, yeah, I give a shit about what the young people are doing. Instead of being like, I hate life. - You say that now. - Yeah, you say that now. - I hope, I hope. - As like a 20 year old. - I hope, I hope that's how. - I doubt Hayao Miyazaki in his twenties was like, I'm gonna grow up to be the absolute cunt. - I will redact all my statements if I see him hit the whip. You know what I mean? If Hayao Miyazaki comes out, hits the whip,

- I doubt Miyazaki is just like browsing Twitter to be like, oh man, they think I'm an asshole, I better change my ways. - They think I'm an asshole, fuck the haters. - I don't care what he thinks, but if he wants to see it and think, whatever. But I mean, all I'm saying is that,

- You don't have to be an asshole. - Yeah, exactly. - You could be humble. - Did you really have to tell your son his movie was shit in front of the cameras and go out of the... Did you really have to? - Did you really have to have the cigarette? - This really feels like a drive home kind of thing. Like, son, it wasn't that good, but don't worry, I wasn't gonna embarrass you in front of all the news outlets that were waiting for me. It's your son, for fuck's sake. Are you kidding me? - That was the thing that broke you? - That was the thing where I'm like, oh, this is too much, Ryan.

- You purposely went out of your way to be a cunt. You could have waited till he got home and texted him and been like, "Son, it was I." - That's the thing though. I watched the Hayao Miyazaki documentary that they did years ago. And it was such an interesting documentary because you get to learn about his life and his thought process about everything. But I don't recommend that documentary to people, nor do I want to rewatch it because in the entire documentary, Hayao Miyazaki is just an absolute dick to the interviewer. - Yeah, it's just kind of like- - I'm just like,

- This is the fucking fucking question like a normal person. - Right, it's like when people are just making things difficult for the sake of it and then you have this whole, oh, I'm the best, I know everything. It's so frustrating to have to put up with that when it's like, did you have to be an asshole though? Why?

Why do I want to be an asshole? Like, what did you gain from that? Did that make you feel big? Did you feel better? Like, just be nice. - But like Stanley Kubrick had the same thing, right? Apparently Stanley Kubrick was an absolute dick. - Apparently directors in general tend to be. - Well, like when some of the most talented people and the talented visionaries are probably some of the biggest dicks. - I mean, especially with a director where it is literally like, you have to be like, put your foot down constantly. I think it's a great YouTube video. It's like, are all directors dicks? It was on my recommended for like,

- I love that title. - It's actually really interesting, go watch it. And it basically, he interviews a ton of directors asking them, you know, should you be a dick? - Are you a dick? - A lot of them would be like, yeah, I am because I have to put my foot down constantly and tell them no. You know, especially if you're working with some actors who are stupid. - I get being a dick on the job. - Right. - But like when it's just like, you know. - This is what I mean. Like, yeah, you can be a dick on set to get what you need done. But did you have to go home and humiliate- - Did you have to be a dick to the interviewer? - Yeah, humiliate the interviewer, humiliate your son.

- I don't know what it was when I saw that clip, it really fucking struck a nerve with me. I was like, I didn't mind him being an asshole sometimes. I was like, all right, whatever, that's his thing. Everyone in the office gets it. But then when he did that, I'm like, that was just cruel. That was cruel. - I think what hit me about that clip was that he did that in front of cameras.

- All the other people there, all the other old men came out afterwards. It was good, wasn't it? And he was like, no. - And he just left. I remember there was a shot of just him going down the stairs and be like, I'm fucking- - He dragged his wife out with him as well. And I'm like, oh my God. - You guys chill out, I'm fucking off back home now. - Fucking hell. Yikes. - Yeah, it's just kind of like one of those things you're like, damn bro. - I don't want to be like that.

- No, I don't think I have the like, I don't think I could do that to my kid. - That's like your son, like making his first YouTube video and you just like pause and just walk out and have a cigarette. - My parents did do that. - Thumbnail game week. - They pretended like they got it. I know they didn't, but I appreciated that they sat through it. - Yeah, exactly, right?

- I just have this image of you like, you seeing your son doing his first YouTube video and it's fucking like reaction video or something. I was like, son, I expected better from you. - I expected more creativity from you. - I didn't raise a fucking son for him to grow up to be a fucking reaction YouTuber. - Which PC is it in? Yeah, I mean, it's like, it was, yeah, like I said, it struck a nerve. Fuck, I was gonna say something else. I totally fucking forgot what I was gonna add.

- Yeah, bottom line, just don't be a dick. - It was like, I read an article as well. How he's actually openly said that he was just never there for his kids growing up. - I read the article after that video. - Because of course he fucking was. - Yeah, well that makes sense. - Too busy making the movie. - Yeah.

I mean, that's when you want to finally come through. It's your kid's movie. You finally want to be like, son, I know I wasn't there for you, but God damn, you did me proud dad. Could you imagine? He probably spent his whole fucking life chasing that moment. That one moment where he just needed his dad to be like, you know what kid, you did good. I watched the movie. It was better than half the shit Miyazaki made. I watched the movie out of pure spite.

- I don't even remember what it was called. I would've said it was the best movie ever. - It's "Tales of the Earthsea". - That's it. - Oh, yeah, okay. I haven't seen it, but I heard it was really good. - It's pretty bad. - Oh, really? - Yeah. - Come on, come on, just say it's good. - It's probably like universally agreed as one of the worst movies Ghibli's ever made. - Really? - I feel bad. - I didn't shut that off. - I feel bad, but man, you know, I feel bad that Miyazaki just fucking shit talked to Son. 'Cause like, no matter what, right? As a parent, you gotta- - That just makes me so much better.

- This could have been a snuff film. I would have sat through my kid's first movie. You know what I mean? I'm sitting through that. Like I have to. - No matter how bad it is, you gotta fucking have your kids back. - Yeah. - Like no parent, right? Like goes up to their five-year-old, looks at their macaroni artwork and goes, "That's shit." - Fucking sees the macaroni out, lights up the cigarette. - I expected better from you, son.

- Son, I saw the other kids macaroni. It was much better than this. - They use the gluten free shit. - Okay, then have you ever had a show or series where you really, really enjoyed and then something came, like you enjoyed before and then you learned about the creator or the author or whatever. - Yeah, absolutely. - And has that like affected your view of the show at all? - Absolutely. Fucking when, what happened to the fucking Rurouni Kenshin, right? Or recently Act Age happened.

- Yeah. - I was enjoying acting so much. I'm like, this is one of the most unique Shonen Jump experiences. And then that happened and I was like, well, fuck. I kind of don't want to read it anymore. - And people want to always be like, you know, you should separate them, but it's so hard to do that when you,

you really respect the work. - Especially the Rurouni Kenshin because like this is coming from a massive Rurouni Kenshin. And I was like, I can't read it anymore. - No, no, it was one of my favorite Shonen manga and anime growing up. And I still have the volumes on my shelf. It's just like gathering dust now. - It's hard as well because you almost respect

'cause you respect the work so much that came from the mind and you almost respect like the thought process and the creativity that came from the person, right? It all came from a mind. I think what's disturbing is like what all these such amazing ideas came out of the same head that was like, oh, I should collect this,

- Yeah, because like re, like I remember I was really into "Act-Age" as well. And then after the news came out, you kind of looked at some of the plot points of "Act-Age" where it's like- - It makes you re-look at everything. - Like an older guy grooming this 15 year old school girl to become like one of the best actresses of all time. And you're like, it was cool,

without that knowledge to just think, hey, you know, maybe he's just trying to help her as like an actress. You know, it was like a- - But now you kind of see like the underlying reason as to why he chose that, right? - Now there's just this underlying reason that just makes you really uncomfortable. Like I can't shake the uncomfort. - Maybe that's a complete coincidence. We'll never know. - Yeah, yeah.

- The fact that we can now make that correlation, it just makes it that much more uncomfortable. - Exactly. - And then you see people on Twitter who are like, "But was it legal though?" They're like, "It doesn't matter if it's legal." - It doesn't matter. I just don't wanna support a pedophile, really. - Just seeing the fucking replies to the Twitter on that was just like, "Oh my God, I hate this world so much." - Oh yeah, yeah. - 'Cause people clearly liked the show who were like, "But it was only one, right?" It's like, "It doesn't matter if it was only one.

- What do you mean if it's only one? - One is more than zero. - It was only one murder, Your Honor, I swear. Come on, give me a full stab. - It wasn't a serial killer. Please, give me more credit than that.

- Yeah, no, I was so fucking disappointed in that. And I'm like, why is it always the good shows? I wouldn't even care if it was like the mediocre shit that like- - Gary's wing. - If it was like the fucking creator of "Gazi's Wing", right? Then I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck ever, right? Like I didn't even enjoy it to begin with. But why is it always the good shows that it happens? It's always like the most talented shit. - It's a shame, it's a shame. - It's a shame. Stop it.

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