Sitting Down with YouTube’s Top Streamer (ft. Ludwig) | Trash Taste #114
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Garnt. Once again, joining me are the boys as usual. And again, we have another very special guest today. Do you wanna introduce yourself to our audience just in case there is someone who doesn't know who you are, what you do out there?

I'm sure there's a lot. I'm Ludwig and I stream sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. Just sometimes. Okay. I mean, I got the YouTube. Every six hours? I got the YouTube bag. It's like once a week these days. One foot out the door, halfway to retirement. Oh,

- Yeah, you're just living the life, man. Once you get like, I feel like the end goal of every streamer is just like to get signed up and just like live the cushy, like comfy life. And that's, you fucking living the dream, man. - That was it for a long time. I was like, okay, just get really, really big. And then like Mixer will give you a big offer. And then you just stay on Twitch and you get paid a shit ton of money to do what you were doing anyway. - Yeah, the ninja strat. - Yeah, it's the dream. You're like $30 million for eight months of work. And so that was always the dream, but that dream's kind of dying.

What do you mean? Why? They stopped handing out big, juicy, fat contracts. Oh. Like every other week, I'll hit up YouTube. I'll be like, hey, sign this person, like a streamer friend of mine who I think is really good. Yeah. And they'll be like, you know, we spent all our budget. And I'm like, on what? On you. I'm like, what did you spend it on? They're like... And then Twitch is handing out like the worst deals of all time. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Have you heard about it? I haven't heard about this. What is this? They're just like...

they used to offer deals, but they've realized that even if people leave who are big streamers, they still have a monopoly. It's like 70% like of the whole market. So like,

we don't need to pay anyone. So they just don't. - Right. - And no one will leave unless they get paid by YouTube and YouTube's pockets only go so deep for this. - That sounds like the deal with like YouTubers where, I remember a lot of YouTubers went through like a massive phase and they're still going through a phase where they fucking hated the platform, especially when like the content system got implemented. And then everyone wanted to leave YouTube to go to a different platform.

- And then they're like, there is no other platform. - There is no other platform. So they just gotta like fucking suck it up and deal with it. - The best case out of that is you end up looking like the Republicans who go to Gab or Truth social media. And there's like eight of them and Donald Trump all hanging out.

- You don't wanna be that guy. - No. - So, you just gotta stick with the website even if it sucks. - Yeah, I remember back in the day, there used to be other websites that tried to compete. I remember, I don't know if you were around when every movie reviewer moved to Blip to try to like- - What is Blip?

- I don't even know. - I heard of it. - Were you around this? - I think I remember that. - This was like back in like the, that guy with the glasses era where like nobody could post like reviews on YouTube. Everyone moved to this new up and coming website called Blip. And well, the fact that they haven't heard of it just says all the story that needs to be said about what happened with that website. But it just seems like anytime there's a different site that tries to compete,

with like the fucking big players now, it just never works out. Like, okay, okay. Are you allowed to say, now that you've been streaming on YouTube for a while, do you think it has an opportunity to compete with Blip in the future? - With Blip? - I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. - Blip's the big player, man. - All right, I'll announce it here, I'm going to Blip.

with Twitch as a live streamer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for the next five years, Twitch will probably remain the top dog. But I do think Twitch is mismanaged so badly at the top. The only way to grow on Twitch, and everyone internally knows, is to grow on another website and then go to Twitch. And I think there's a lot of pressure for them to be profitable. And they've announced that they might slash pay 30% for creators.

or they might make people like run ads. And so they've done a lot of things that are unfavorable, but it's because Amazon's like, Hey, you've been losing hundreds of millions for five years now. Could you please stop? And eventually they, I think what will break the camel's back is if they get rid of Twitch prime. Right. Well, cause like another thing that I've realized recently about Twitch is that it's, I, I feel like Twitch, like in my mind was way more of a mature platform. Uh,

than I thought it was because I think what made me realize this recently was the recent matter of just streaming copyrighted shows, right? And there was just nothing that was done about that. And you look at something like YouTube, I mean, you lasted like what? 24 hours or something before you had your first down on YouTube or something like that? - Dude, I got knocked off so many times for like listening to songs. Like even if I listened to like the Naruto,

So yeah. And I'm playing like a blitz game of chess and I'm like, let's go boys. It'll just be like, like boop. And then it'll take me down. Um, and so it's, it's crazy what you can get away with on Twitch. Yeah. And I think a lot of streamers would struggle even with like the daily, like, Hey, let's react to videos thing. Yeah.

And they would just get burned. Yeah. I'm not really a fan of that anyway. Reacting to videos? I don't know. Why? It's tight. Why? Why would I want to... I don't know. Watch YouTube offline. Why are you going to... I don't know. Well, I agree with you. I think...

like 95% of the time, the thing that I like doing is like watching what I do these days. I have my mods, I pay them all. And I'm like, Hey, get me a list of like the coolest food from every country. It'd be like a, like a minute clip of all that. And I'll watch them all on stream. And so it's like a compilation of all of those with the overarching idea of like, which places the coolest food. Yeah. I think you did one with like YouTube is from different countries. Yeah, exactly. And so that I do that a lot.

Uh, but I do, I get uncomfortable when I'm just sitting there, even watching like a curse Gazette video. They've given me permission to watch it, but sometimes I'm sitting there and it's almost like, I feel like I'm high and I'm like, I haven't said anything in a while or do they know that I haven't said anything? And then I'll watch XQC like react to like watch him. He reacts to movie recaps. I've seen this. I haven't seen this. It's a text to speech voice that,

is like someone wrote and it'll be like a movie like The Martian. It'll be like Matt Damon goes to space and he has to live there for 60 days and it's the entire movie for 10 minutes and he just watches it and he won't say a word. What the fuck?

And I'm like, man, he's the goat. That is like a new level of just like gaming the system. Yeah. Like what's next? Just like reading like entire Hollywood scripts, like text to speech. That'd be fire. Just the B movie, Texas speech. Yeah. Sitting there reacting, laughing as if you could actually see it in your mind.

- It's like, oh Ray Leona. - Yeah. So like, is it like, 'cause I've talked to a lot of Twitch streamers and they constantly talk about like the meta of like whatever's going on in Twitch. How is that set? Is it just like a few people at the top, just like figuring out something new and then everyone just kind of copies that? - It's just like toilet paper. You know, we're like,

when everyone was buying toilet paper. Everyone's just freaking out. What they think is the meta, it's just such bullshit. Everyone's just like, this is the meta. And you're like, why? Because one person did it. Yeah, you're right. It feels like a fire sale. It's the same thing on YouTube, though. Is it really? I don't know. YouTube's...

- I think for a lot of trends that are like a lot easier to do, I guess, and you know, obviously like if Mr. Beast starts doing something, then not everyone's gonna jump onto that because there's a high bar of entry. But if it's something like, you know, like, you know, any of the fucking stupid YouTube challenges, right? It was also the same thing. - I guess, but like, I feel like on YouTube at least there is like,

like tangible numbers where you can be like, this is the result. Like if you take a hot knife and cut something, you'll get 10 million views. That's guaranteed. But sometimes on Twitch, I feel like it's just like, oh, this big guy did it. And it is no like numbers saying this improved or did any better. It's just like, just jump on it.

I think it's usually related to something timely. So like our forward slash place is a great example that could have only happened in that window. Yeah. I'd say that's, that's valid among us when it came out is cause it was hot. Yeah. And like, usually the metas are things that are happening because like either there's an innovation, like, Oh, I can stream in a hot tub in a bikini. Okay. Innovation. Is that innovation? Yeah.

That's American Ingenuity. We're going forward. The car, the plane, Amaranth. In that order. And so that's usually what dictates it. But you're right. Sometimes there's lulls and down times. And then XQC will play Fall Guys. And it's like, is Fall Guys back now? And it's like, yeah. And you can kind of force the meta. Yeah, I just feel like that. One time there was a thing where the meta was putting the V2 attack.

Yeah. For like no reason. Yeah. But that's like a faux meta. It's like, it's useless, right? Yeah. It's not like chess, which was like a real, like, you know, it was like chess is, I mean, it's kind of coming back as candidates. I'm trying to make it a meta again, a meta again. I'm trying to bring it back. Yeah. Yeah. You're one of the meta setters, right? I have the power. I think I can, cause I have this idea of chess, but you see the eval bar while you play.

And you've all done chess, right? Yeah. Oh, it was in the players see the eval. Yes. While you're playing, you see the eval bar, which if you don't know, it just, there's like a bar and it's usually split 50% white, 50% black when you start. And the better you play, like the more in one favor it is. And you know, when you're playing in a tournament, you're like, am I doing bad? Am I winning? Like what the fuck is going on? But if you could see a bar, that's like, you are doing great. You'd be like, cool. And I think you play better because of it.

- I don't think I would though. I don't know. - This is literally the equivalent of having a friend behind you go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yes, but the friend is Magnus Carlsen. - Literally, just like, oh. - I remember when I first tried streaming chess, I thought, okay, I'm pretty, I'm okay at chess, right? And then I was-

trying to stream for the first time with while reading Twitch chat and like my performance just dipped by about 20%, I swear to God. 'Cause if there's a game that's like backseat gaming puts you off of it's chess. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's like you constantly doubt yourself with every single move. So I don't know if that would help or enhance. I guess like- - Well, no, 'cause Twitch chats are dumb asses. The eval bar is God.

- The eval bar is a literal algorithm that works in your favor, right?

- But I feel like it would snowball it way more, right? 'Cause if you're ahead, you would get like way more confident. But if you're like even like 5% behind, I feel like- - Rip. - Okay, remake guys, I'm tilted, I'm already tilted. - I think it'd be interesting like for example, if it says like mate in 13, it's like, okay, now I spend more time looking to find something. If you don't find it and I think it'd make you play better. - Yeah, then you run the clock and you lose.

- Yeah, maybe. - That's what will happen. - Either way, I'll bring the meta back. I will implore you all to jump back into the chess meta. - You've all enjoyed it. - I'll try. - I can be Connor all the time in chess. - Hey, me and you. - Who can't? - God damn it.

I got a DM from Iron Mouse before this and she's like, "Be mean to Connor." And I was like, "All right." - What the fuck? - All right. - Everyone's mean to me. Just a good punching bag. - I like to play more like, 'cause like one thing that's awesome about chess.com is that the UI is just so clean. But I remember like playing Connor with like a real board and that was just like way more challenging than like,

Yeah. Right. It's so hard to see things. I know. Yeah. Because you have to stand up and look at them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand. Like, I think it's a thing when they teach young people, they never have them play online because it's so much harder to go from online to on the board as opposed to the other way around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's weird how much just playing with that UI just improves your performance and trying to,

- Trying to play with a real life chess board is kind of like going from an automatic car to a manual car. You're like, how the fuck does this work? I've completely forgotten everything. - Yeah, true, true. - Yeah, that's why you beat me last time we played in real life. - I think I had more experience playing over the board. - That's from like childhood? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Really? - A lot of the time.

- It wasn't very good. - Welsh chess school. - Yeah, I guess so, yeah. - Yeah, my experience is just my uncle beating my ass repeatedly and then ignoring me for the rest of the day. - My dad always wanted to play chess until I started beating him. And then he was like, "I don't wanna play anymore." - Wait, at what age were you beating your dad? - Like 10. - What? - Yeah. - Was your dad dumb as bricks? - No, no, no, he was okay, I think. I don't know. Well, as a kid, you have no sense of what is a good chess player. - Sure, of course not. - Yeah, I don't know.

- So like you, you've like, you're one of like the top Twitch streamers just like in general. - Is he a Twitch streamer? - Well, you're one of the top. - Was, was, was. - He's one of the, he's fell off the most on Twitch. - Yeah, I am. I do have the world record for the biggest fall off of all time from 283,000 subs to zero.

No one is close. No one is close. Where's the Sonny V2 video? Dude, I hate Sonny V2. I hate that guy. We spoke about this yesterday on the air. Yeah. Why? Because he does like the random YouTube generator and it's like...

how this person fell off. And then it's just like always based off like looking up their social blade and being like, you gone down there worthless human. And it's not substantial. - Yeah, and 90% of the time it's just a Minecraft YouTuber.

I swear that's like 80% of his channel. And then occasionally you get like, I think he released like the Shane Dawson one recently. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He calls it a downfall, but it's like, he's making more than enough views. - It's just like trying to make it dramatic to pull in views.

- Yeah, of course. - I don't know. - I mean, it's clearly working for them. - It's a boring formula, so. - It's the sad reality of like, 'cause I was a journalism student when I went to college and there's a whole semester we spend on like just general trends.

And there was this one news station that did only good positive news stories for like a month and the ratings plummeted. And then they went right back to like sensationalist, you know, highway chase, bank robber, murder in your area. 'Cause it just gets more views. - Yeah. - I mean, that's just true with, I think every platform, unfortunately. - People just love watching train wrecks. - Yeah, they do. - I think it's only like- - He's good at gambling.

- There's not that many actual like big downfalls on YouTube. It's just people just fizzling out or people who quit. Like if you quit, is it a downfall? - Like on your own volition? - Yeah, if you're like, I'm done with YouTube. - Yeah, I think we mentioned this as well, like Epic Meal Time, right? He was like, yeah, she's not getting views, so I'm quitting. It's like, that's not a downfall, the dude just quit. - But also sometimes like there are creators that just like fucking burn out. They just need like a break from the platform. But like we've seen enough people like,

go off, do their own fucking thing and then just come back in like a different way or a different like, seeing like, for example, like Ray William Johnson become relevant again through like YouTube shorts and TikTok. It's just like so weird. So weird. Yeah, considering like how he was like kind of like for like the longest time, the staple of like the biggest YouTuber who fell off, you know, he quit Equus 3 and nobody ever heard of him and then now he just did his own thing and now he's coming back in a different platform. They do so well. Yeah.

His shorts get millions of views and it's all like cringy roasts. It's literally, he's recycling the formula of equals three, but because of the meta right now, it's just working again. Yeah. And it's so, yeah, it's, it's cause, yeah. Cause I remember I was like flicking through Tik TOK and they just like,

randomly showed up. I was like, oh shit, I completely forgot about this guy. And he's still doing the exact same shit. Oh, he's doing React too? Yeah, yeah. So the thing I saw from him, he would find a TikToker and he would just roast them. Oh, he does that as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he would just sit there and he'd be like, you look like you've never had sex in your life, you virgin headass. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

That's fucking comedy. Yeah. And then, you know, they'd be like really mean though. And then he does end up with a, nah, I'm just kidding. I was like, you went in on them. That's the magic. Yeah. But,

but I guess you can't have success even that many years later. - Yeah, I saw a TikTok where he literally started off being like, "Check out this video." And I'm like, "Oh my God, the nostalgia wave of Eagles 3 just came back." It was exactly the same formula. - I think I saw one that was, it was something about Drake. He'd kind of like blocked off traffic so he could get out or something. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - And his whole thing was like,

- Man, doesn't it suck when celebrities just think they're better than you guys, right? Like, comment, subscribe. It's like, what is this? Yeah, no shit. Like what the fuck? I don't know. - Yeah, I mean, it's like pandering to you, making you feel like an idiot. - Yeah, I mean, it's given me more confidence as a creator 'cause I see them and I'm like, man, if I fall off next year, no problem. There's a chance. There's always a chance, baby. - I'd love to see Gert in five years just on TikTok roasting people.

No enemy watching. I'm just playing, man. That's the future for God.

- I think that is the future for all of us though, right? You either, the views either start trending down until you eventually like quit because you don't want it to go so down that you're sad or you pivot to something that like you are, it makes you happier. That's totally separate. - Yeah. Have you ever thought about like at which point you throw in the towel, do you, you know, at which point do you stop huffing the copium and you realize, okay guys, it's time to give up. It's time to give up, you know? - Yeah. - It's hard, isn't it? 'Cause it's like,

'Cause if you have enough of a backlog, especially on YouTube, even if you're not making like the most amazing views, the backlog can still like kind of save your ass. - It'll make money for years. - Yeah, it'll make money for you as long as it's all monetized, right? So it's like, you know, some people say like, oh, if I get like 0.1% of the views that I used to get, then it's like time to pack it in. But there's people who have been around, you know, who have those like mega hits and that are still picking up views that are just like,

even though they make like three, 4,000 views a video. - Yeah, 'cause we were talking about Sunny V2 and his recent Shane Dawson video. He was just like, "Man, Shane Dawson's views dropped off by 90%. "He used to make 40 million views per video "and now he only makes four million." - Only four million. - And I was like, "Damn, I wish I was making four million views per video." - Meanwhile, you close out a full screen and you see his views are like at two mil.

He's doing better than you. I wish I could be irrelevant. I think it was a lot different. Cause when I started streaming, I decided I would only do it for five years. Yeah. Right. Uh, and I, and then I was like, after five years, I'll stop. And then I'll just have to find something new. Why five years? Cause I thought that was a long time. I mean, it is, it is a long time. Yeah. That was it. Uh,

And I'm at four. I'm at four in May. And contractually, I have to do a little over five. God forbid. God forbid. But it has trended up enough. And now I feel a pressure to keep doing it also because I have like 15 employees. But I think I'll go a bit longer. But I do like hard capping and like forcing yourself to either review if this is what you still want to do or consider other things to do. Right. What would you do? Yeah. Yeah.

- WikiFeet. - I was gonna say that foot just right in my face. - Do you know my rating on WikiFeet? - What is your rating on WikiFeet? - 5.55. - How is that possible? - I know. - It's out of five stars though. - I know. - How is that possible? You're like hacking WikiFeet. - My grippers are that good that I have shot above five. - Where are you ranked on the entire website? - I'm the goat.

That's what we're going to title this episode. The Code of WikiFeet. No face in it. No face, just your foot. Just Photoshop it over me for the whole two hours. But yeah, I've never really thought about it because I guess I'm not there. I'm also, I'm a guy who's scared to think of future. So I think very present. It's crazy to think you've only been doing it for four years though.

- That's a long time. - I think she just blew up from the subathon, right? - Yeah. - No. Well, I feel like you'd blown up before then and then the subathon just like put you in the strats. - No. - Really? - I wish. - What do you mean? - Okay, going into the subathon, I averaged 20,000 viewers. - You did? - Yes. - Holy shit. - And then the subathon happened and it's like,

you know, Nyan Cat theme planes and I'm, and I'm popping off. But then it ended and within 60 days I was back down, not just to 20,000, but to like 15 to 20,000 average. I was below what I was before the subathon. And in my mind, after it ended, I was like, I'm a 30 K Andy. Now I have, I have passed. I am onto the XQC territory. Right. Uh,

But that's not how it went. Everyone just left because they were more interested in the timer. And I realized I never really showed what my content was. I was just a vegetative state on stream while a timer played that people were watching. And so no one actually knew what I did or cared what I did. So what was the thing that initially blew you up, you think? I originally, I started to get to like the thousand views just from like posting YouTube videos. And they were doing like, well, they'd get like maybe like 100K. And then it was PogChamps.

okay. Right. Right. That's what blew you off. I went from like, maybe like 5k to like easy, like 10, 12, even 15 K sometimes. Cause I was, I was farming jokes. I like would buy books that I'd make fun of like chess players. And so chess.com would put me on like their like front screen, like in breaks. And it'd just be me. Uh,

And I just used to like... I remember every day I would end stream and there'd be like an LSF clip and it'd be like, this new streamer is making jokes on Chess website. And I was like, yes, I am. Yes, I am. And then right after PogChamps ended, Amogus hit. Oh, yeah. And Amogus was... People don't remember, but it was weirdly competitive to try to get into lobbies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Toast was talking about that to me as well the other day where it was kind of like there was...

there was like a kind of like circle where you would always try to get into the lobby, but there was only like nine places, right? - It's 10, yeah. - Yeah, it's 10. So even if you circle through people, you're never gonna get through everyone who wants to join your lobby. - No. - Yeah, so it kind of weirdly felt like became like political in a sense. - Very, yeah. And like the biggest lobbies were the OTV ones and they had like obviously their group of friends that they've had. So they would always have 10, but people would drop after an hour or two hours. And so I remember,

a lot of the times it'd be me and Corpse Husband. It was before he had really blown up too. And we'd just be like waiting in the discord. And then it'd be like one spot open and we'd both be like, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. And then like we'd get in and eventually like, you know, you get in enough times

And I think the one thing that I was good at was being okay with losing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause a lot of people are just, their egos are so big. Yeah. They just hate being losers. But if you're a really good loser and it's fun to laugh at you when you lose, then it's fun for other people to play with you and beat you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I was cool with that. Right. It's weird to think like how much among us just,

catapulted so many streamers up into like- - I can't take people seriously when they say Among Us, my brain is rotted. - It is, it has. - I hear Among Us and I'm like, "Hm." - IQ drops to two. - I feel my brain being caged in Among Us. - It's like when the dent is in. - I literally feel that happening. I'm a fucking, oh my God, I'm an infant.

Yeah. But it was really the, it was the shit. It made so many people and it was so easy to, I remember I would watch other people's streams while streaming and I'd be at like my peak viewership ever. And I'd be at like averaging 25,000 and I just be, cause I'd be dead. And I was like, well, if I talk over it, it is worse content than if I just shut up and then I watch germa on my other monitor. So I just do that. Yeah.

Damn. When's the next, when's the next among us coming? Cause I feel like has that, was that like the last massive trends that really just blew up a lot of streamers or do you think there's been like something, something else? I think what was cool about it is everyone was in on it, but it opened up everyone collaborating, but now they collaborate with everything, right? Like there'll be just people being,

degenerate in VR chat together or like rust servers in their sweatier or fall guys and they're more casual. Yeah. But it's just now everyone collaborates with everyone. Right. Right. Okay. Where's Among Us 2, man? That's what we're waiting for. I'm waiting for VR Among Us. VR Among Us, yeah.

That'll be hype for two weeks. Yeah. And then totally fall off. Until people start getting sick of it. Yeah. Everyone hates wearing the headset. Yeah, exactly. Well, Soda Pop is going to bring his mute to the VR chat among us and then it's going to be weird.

It's going to get all problematic. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. That's going to be an interesting time. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. So like you do a lot of events now and stuff like that. Is that something you've always wanted to like work yourself, like work up towards where you can get this freedom and just to do a lot of different fun events? Like how did that idea come about where you just wanted to like do tournaments and do events and do like mogul money and stuff like that? - Yeah, I think they're always the thing that

I feel like if you're at a successful point streaming and you get a shit ton of money, you should put effort back in. Yeah. And events always seem to be successful. Yeah.

And I mean, honestly, I think the goat is Jerma. Yeah. Right. He's like so original. I saw his like he did the Sims like the dollhouse one. Sims dollhouse. Yeah. Fucking insane. Yeah. Like it's insane. Like his brain comes up with that. And I know he has like a few coming up that are like he's told me about it. Like he did one that I did with him where

He had a he was in like a room and he had a clipboard and he had people dressed like him. Oh, yeah. So to try to replace him. Yeah. And then it was a reveal that it was a replaced German show and it was like America's Next Top Model or whatever. One of those game shows buzzers.

And like, he's just has an insane mind for it, but I'm not nearly as original. So I think I'm doing more of like the e-buy route. And like, you, you probably saw his stream. He got the, the viewership record. Yeah. Three million. Yeah. Yeah. I thought my Twitch had glitched when I logged onto Twitch. Yeah. I saw that. He had more than all Twitch combined.

And it's because like he did an event and I don't think he's like nearly as original as creative as Jerma, but he's doing events to such like a high level that it's like every week you tune in and it's like, oh, he's doing a mogul money. Oh, he's doing a boxing event. Oh, he's doing a cooking show. And I think that's the goal is to get to there. Yeah. Because the one thing that I always respect about that is,

- It's different being a YouTuber doing an event versus I think being a Twitch streamer and doing an event because we can plan big projects, big videos, but we can edit that. We can pre-film that, we can edit out stuff that doesn't work. You guys are doing it live, right? Which takes like, I'd argue like double the team to be able to make something like this work. - And like 10 times the planning as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the dollhouse thing. I can't even imagine how much,

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I have 15 full-time employees right now. Holy shit. Damn. Who I hire. Fuck.

- Fuck it, and you're just one guy. - I'm just a dude. - Us three, I think you hire more people right now than we do. - All of you combined? - Yeah, all of us combined. - Yeah, it's helpful. 'Cause what you find out is like, okay, you do need a huge team to do all of this. And it's much better if it's in house as opposed to reaching out to someone else to do it all. 'Cause then there's like onboarding and they might not do it right. And you can't really get mad at them 'cause you know.

They're just doing their job. - They're doing their job. - I think we figured out how much work and effort it takes to plan like a live show when we did like our 24 hour charity stream. And even that was like, I think like pretty simple compared to some of the stuff you guys are doing. But that took like months and months of planning

And like, yeah, even still, it was like fucking hard to pull off as well. - Yeah. - 'Cause you get to stay up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The schedule crumbled by the second half because we're all just so fucking dead. 'Cause we planned to do like six or seven other things in the second half and we're all just like,

let's just read donations for the next two hours. I remember watching and it was like a period where you all looked like you had taken ketamine and you're reading donations and you're just in a daze. Like Connor, you were just like, thank you. And like people were talking next to you and you, I don't even think you're in it. It was completely dead. I don't know why. It was such a good event though. Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah. We really want to do another one. Yeah.

- I mean, I like the idea of doing the other one, but I remember the last seven to eight hours of that stream and I just like-

- We need some way to like rotate out or something guys. - Yeah. - That was hard. - Just do like eight, eight, eight or something or just have one person sleep while the other person, it's like when old military people would be on guard and then the other people rest, then you swap. - I think we made the mistake of drinking when Chris came on and then like, after we stopped drinking when he came off, that's when it like truly hit. And that's when like the lack of energy. - Chris turned up with like cider and he's like, "Boys, let's drink." And I was like, "Oh." - Oh shit.

Not going to say no. It came all the way. I mean, it was good there. It was good. Yeah. It turned out really well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man, I always wondered why you don't stream on YouTube. I think I talked to you about that. You guys.

Because you guys are so big on YouTube. Like, you're the biggest podcast, I feel like, in terms of floor. Or one of the on YouTube. And I was like, oh, it makes so much sense to just stream on YouTube. You'd probably get a bunch of viewers. But then you're like, ah, everyone go to Twitch. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why we decided to go for Twitch instead of YouTube.

- Maybe one day they can sign us, right? - This is why Twitch stays on top. 'Cause when you're like, "What do I live stream?" You're like, "Nah, Twitch." Yeah, I don't know. I mean, we didn't really have much plans regarding the live streaming. It was kind of like an experiment.

turned out really, really fucking well. And then we are kind of like figuring things out as we go along because I think always our YouTube is our main priority and then the After Dark Twitch streams were just things that we wanted to do on the sides. And yeah. And Twitch is pretty helpful. They've given us some more incentives to stream on their platform as well, which is good, which YouTube hasn't.

So it's kind of like whichever platform is like, "Hey, we'll help you. We'll give you reasons." - You're like a kid and it's like just an old truck waving candy in front of you. And you're like, "Yes." - Yeah, well, I mean, 'cause the platforms do the same thing really. I mean, it's just kind of whichever one is willing to help you out more and give you more tools to do what you need to do. - We just went for the truck that had more candy. - Yeah, a lot of candy in that truck. - Well, how's the changeover been from Twitch to YouTube?

Just the worst. I think I had the foresight to ask one of the people I hire, he's a developer, his name's Otto, to make an extension that would make the transition much more seamless. And that's been a godsend. Because I don't know if you've ever been in a YouTube chat. Oh, it's awful. It's awful.

It's miserable. The delay is terrible. The messages flow like water and you can barely read them. You feel like you're going crazy. And everyone is just like a YouTube normie. So they're all just kind of not fun to talk to. How haven't they fixed that? It seems so simple to fix. Because they have like a

million employees and are bloated and are slow. - But you had like Susan, you know, do you feel like Susan can fix it? - I can be, but then she'd be like, yeah. And they'll do like eight months of analysis and research and then figure out how to fix it and then decide if they want to fix it. They're just slow. And I think they will. It'll just be like in two years. - I realized yesterday after going on the yards, right? That Susan had to go up those ladders. - Yeah. - You mean Susan go up like ladders to get on this? - I did. - Fuck dude.

dude. Susan, I interviewed her on the yardstand. Susan would just be the CEO. What ladder is this? To get to my podcast room, we

we basically changed a closet into just like a ladder room. And it's kind of like a fireman ladder. It's literally a vertical ladder. That's your closet. It was, it was, it was a closet. And then we just change it into that. Cause the only other way to get in is like, it's one of those attic doors that you have to pull down with a string. Right. But it goes into my roommates, Aiden's room. And it like, it leaves dust everywhere. So we don't like to use it. So I offered Susan that, and it's like more, you know, uh, diagonal. And she was like, no, I want to go up the ladder. Yeah.

And I was like, all right, bet. No help though. How did that happen?

Susan thing? Yeah. I tweeted at her jokingly while doing the podcast. Yeah. Because they were like, do you talk to Susan? I'm like, yeah, I'm close to her. I'm tight with her. So I just, as a meme, I was like, come on my podcast. And then she talked to the people who hired me to YouTube. And she's like, man, I'm down. Let's see if we can set it up. And then she actually came and she was super nice. You were like, shit, shit, shit. I was nervous. I was joking. Well, okay. What's fucked? Okay, so...

We started joking before she was going to come on because we knew she was coming on about Susan. And we made some not so savory jokes. We made some jokes about dogs who run a clinic. And in the clinic, they're scientists and they test by...

having sex with adult women. What is the point of this joke? I don't know where it spawned, Connor. It just happened. The joke devolved to a point because we kept running with it and no one wanted to end it. We're talking about a Doberman named Bruce having sex with Susan. And we're all laughing about this. And then Susan reaches out to my partner manager and she's like, what's a good episode of The Yard to listen to? And he's like,

He's like, I'll give you one. And she's like, no, I want to listen to the most recent one. And he's like, no, you don't. And she's like, no, I really do. And so I think she listened to it. And I think she's so aware of the content that happens that she was cool with it. She was like, oh, I get it. Like you're just making content and you're doing anything to make jokes. Just joshing around. Yeah. And she was cool with it. But I was like, that was the most nervous I was. It's like when she came and I was like, I'm going to get yelled at.

I'm sorry. - So what was that about dogs you said? - I would be mortified. - It's like a teacher calling you into their classroom. I saw the note that you were passing around in the classroom. - What a missed opportunity, Susan. Could have roasted him.

Oh, yeah. No, we're good. That would have been some great content. That would have been some amazing content. It would have been. It would have been. After the downfall of Ludwig. I watched the whole thing. It was really good. You killed it. Yeah, it went great. And I think it was good. Like, it made her seem like a human because I don't think... Because, like, I just genuinely don't think people get to see her a lot. Yeah. And the whole science laboratory thing.

- Yeah, and she is formed in a lab, of course. Like all CEOs have to legally be, pour water on them. - Did you have to do a lot of prep for that episode? 'Cause like whenever we have guests on, we just do like zero prep. It's been eyeopening, like going on other podcasts and meeting other creators, having like fucking talking points laid out. And I'm like, shit, man. What are we doing? - We should probably do that. - We should probably do that. - Wait, you guys are trying?

We do the same thing when we have guests. But with this one, I had to tell them everything I was going to do. She has like a team. She's like content person, social media person, YouTube person. And they all hopped in a meeting. They're like, what do you want to do? And I was like, I want to get an NFT of Homer Simpson spreading his asshole and then say, I bought an NFT. And they're like, no, no.

- I wanna bring in a Doberman, you know? - I couldn't believe you showed the Pepe. - Oh, that was golden. - I didn't tell him about that. - Oh, you just did it? - That's the one thing I did, 'cause I told him about everything and I was like, well, I really wanna catch her off guard. And so then I was like, I'll show a picture of a Pepe hanging himself.

which maybe wasn't the classiest idea. Yeah. Were they annoyed about that? No, no. The actually the only thing, cause there was literally a watch party downstairs in my living room while it was happening and I could hear laughter like through every part. And so I knew I was killing it when they would laugh. But there was one part where I came down after and they were like, yeah, everyone viscerally cringed. And it was when I said the word come,

And I was like, wow, I'm shocked because I showed them so much worse things. I thought you said the word come in what context? Because I talked about how my girlfriend's podcast gets demonetized and it was just a broader intro to demonetization. And I was like, well, our podcast, we talk about shit and come a lot.

just to like, that's what we do. And then, and then apparently they were just, they were like losing it downstairs and just devolving into like, like among a sus picture face. Yeah. And that was it. Oh my God. I can accept a frog hanging yourself, but I draw the line of shit. Let's be classy. Let's actually be poor. I think we're, we're, we're in trouble as well. A lot of come talk here. Well,

A lot of shit. A lot of shit. Yeah. A lot of shit. Not like we just had like a- Just had a hentai artist on recently. That was an interesting conversation. I was on their show and they were like, so you're uncircumcised, right? And I was like, what? It's really you, boy. You've got to be uncircumcised. Yeah. That is our intro question. Yeah, yeah. This has to be an uncut couch. I believe this is all uncut. Wow.

- This is an honor. - You guys should know that we've seen each other's fucking dicks. - Well, cause we're not from America. We're not from America. They all sit in silence for some reason. - See that's why we don't have the conversation. Cause we've already seen each other's dicks. Cause we go to your like onsens in Japan and everything like that. - We're aware of each other's circumcision circumstances. - Connor told me that we went rock climbing and there's a shower and obviously like there's curtains and dividers. But after he's like, yeah, just so you know, like I've seen Joey's dick.

I'm like, we've just, I've seen all my friends. Yeah. He's like, no God. I've seen a load of dicks. Yeah.

- I'm jealous, but. - They were asking like, they were like, I think we sent came up by onset. I was like, yeah, you just see each other's dicks. That's what you do. And they're like, what? What? - Can I ask a question? - Yeah, sure. - Okay. - I know what he's gonna ask. - What? - What are you doing?

- Dude, this led me into an onsen. Could I cover it or is that- - No, you're good with that. - No, you're good with that. - You're good with that, yeah. - I thought you were just about to whip your fucking dick out. - I thought you were gonna be like, where do I stand him? - Do I need cream from this? - I thought you were gonna pull your dick out and be like, all right, can we go to an onsen now? You're gonna be like, okay, out of 10 guys, out of 10, rate it. - How do I hold up?

Thinking about starting a wiki dick, you know, out of five, you know, what do you guys think? I'm so sorry for that, by the way. I got the tattoo and my first fear was now I can never go into a Japanese onsen. You could also just wear, if you're really worried about it, just put a bandaid on it. But isn't that like rude?

- No, no, no, no, no, no. - I thought it was like sacred and I would be tainting the water with my ink blood. - You know what's more tainting? If you had blood everywhere and pus all in the- - Yeah, I guess that's fair. - No one cares about a bandaid. If you're really, really worried about it, just put a bandaid on. - Yeah. - Yeah, yours is small enough where like people won't even see it in passing.

The times where they like shit themselves is if you have like a whole sleeve or something. - Yeah, yeah. - But if you got like a couple of small ones. - We've had friends who have had like very, very small tattoos come on and they just like, they put a towel over it or sometimes a lot of people just don't even care. - Really? - Yeah. - I'd be really impressed if you got kicked out for that. - Okay. - Yeah, yeah. - You'd have to be in like a really traditional place to be kicked out for something like that. - Yeah. - But like, nah, you'll be fine. - Also why are they looking?

- Yeah. - Yeah, he's like, "What, what?" - "Look at that." - "Yo, you slipping, bro, hey yo." - He's like, "Damn, you do leg day?" - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause the thing with onsen, people think that you just like go around staring at each other's dicks and all that stuff. And it's just like, no, it's just in your periphery. - It's only for 10 minutes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You acknowledge that. - Maybe 15 if it's like a good dick. - I need a good gander out of it. - Would you go to Onsen then? - I would love to, yeah, I'm dying to. I mean, I'm dying to go to Japan as a whole, as I'm sure every guest you've had has said. - You haven't been yet, right? - I think you're the most obsessed with Japan of any of the guests. - Yeah. - Well, you applied for the jet program. - I did, and I got declined in record pace. - Why'd you get declined?

- I don't know, I thought it was a standout. - I know the selection process is really tough. - Is it? - I thought they let anyone on. - Jet selection is actually quite tough. - But they let Chris go, so it can't be like that tough. - Bro, it was very different all those years ago. - They would just take it to anyone. - It's like our economy is in shambles right now. - Do you have a heartbeat? - No, when I applied, I went to a whole seminar 'cause I had graduated from Arizona State.

And, uh, which, which is a university where they actually check your heartbeat and they let you in. Yeah. Uh, and I got a degree in English and journalism. Right. And, uh, and I had recently broke up my girlfriend. Uh, and I was like, you know, at that pivotal point where I'm like, what do I do with my life? Yeah. I was like, fuck it. I'll go to Japan. Yeah. And I applied and I thought I was a standout and they're like, no shot. And I was like, Oh,

And like in preparation for it, that's I think what I originally, like that's where I found Chris. And I was like, okay, I have to watch a broad in Japan videos because I have to know the seven things I can't do in Japan. I would hate to do those. And then I just, I literally continued to watch it as if I'm applying every year. Right. Even though I have no ability to go to Japan. Right.

- Right. - You've never been to Japan? - Never, no. - Yeah, 'cause I remember you were saying like before your Twitch channel popped off, you used to watch a lot of like Japan-based creators and like Japan-based like Twitch streamers and stuff like that, right? - First guy I subbed to was RetroGaijin. - Yeah. - Oh, damn. - He's just a dude from like Ohio who lives in, I think Tokyo now. And I watched him back in the day, like seven years ago. And he just used to play Smash 4, which was my favorite game back then too. And I was like, okay, Japan, cool. Smash, cool.

Right. Right. And yeah. And so it's like, I'm still, I still watch him. I watch pretty much every Japan creator. I've seen them at some point. Right. You know? So I think I'm going in.

not disillusioned, not thinking anime will rain down from the skies and pretty aware of everything. - Or subtitles. - Yeah. Well, wait, what? There's some, right? - After the Olympics, yeah. - And I still think it'll be really tight. - Yeah, you'll love it. - Is there anything in particular you wanna do there now? 'Cause like, it seems like out of every creator,

you've been in like indirectly involved in the Japanese YouTube community just because you consume so much of it. - Yeah, I think because of that, that will influence a lot of what I do. Like I want to go to Dogen's place 'cause it seems so tight. - Oh yeah, yeah. - I really want to go as well. - And he offered, 'cause I hit him that right after he got, I hit him with that sly like, "Nice house." Be ashamed if you didn't have someone in there filling it up. - That guest room looks awfully empty. - Yeah, exactly.

Uh, and like, like all the classics, like Okinawa, I want to go to Alamori cause that seems tight. Alamori is tight as fuck. Yeah. Uh, and yeah, when I go, I think I'll go for a month and I'll just live there for a month. Yeah.

Don't go during the summer months, though. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's horrible right now. It seems brain dead to go. Yeah. I hate being here and it's probably worse than here. Like, oh, it's 10 times worse than here. It's here, but just up the humidity by 90%. Yeah. Yeah. Which is miserable. It is. Because it sucks here. Like, you go outside, it's 95. UV's like a 10. You're burning instantly. I think yesterday it was like 110, 120, something like that. Yeah. Which is,

- Fucking disgusting. - Yeah. That's the time when we don't leave our houses. - Right. - Yeah. - I think the Tokyo, I saw an article where it was like Tokyo government was asking people to not leave their lights on after three or something. 'Cause they're so short on electricity, powering all the AC. - Yeah, yeah. - Fuck dude. - That's not surprising. - I mean Connor has his like AC on 24/7. - Oh yeah. - It's running right now, just waiting for him to come back. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I wanna keep it at the same time. - It's more expensive to turn it on and off. - Yeah, exactly. - Just leave it running.

- Yeah, I mean, I get like heat stroke and I faint and shit if it's too hot. - Really? - So like I pretty much just have it on all the time. - Yeah. - During the summer especially, it's brutal. - Yeah, there's a lot of people who like pass out and die from the heat stroke in the summer. - Whales, we don't have that.

No, I don't have that in the States either. I mean, like, unless someone's like hiking on the Appalachian Trail and then it's like, or you're in Arizona, which like you decided to live there, your fault. Well, you're from New Hampshire, right? Yes. Is that pretty cool? Is that nice? It gets humid and like muggy, but it gets like, you know, not too bad in terms of temperature. What is New Hampshire famous for? We have one of the worst presidents of all time, Franklin Pierce, who committed genocide amongst Native Americans.

And also a cool mountain. Oh, okay. Well, it kind of bounces. So the mountain's really cool. Maybe you saw it off at the mountain, you know? It was called Old Man on the Mountain and it was just a mountain that looked like it had a face on it and then it fell because the face was so heavy. So now it's just a mountain. Yeah. And now it's just like a normal mountain, but we still call it that when we drive by and we're like,

It was our 9-11. Never forget, baby. I like how that's the equivalence for Americans. Like, is it a bad thing? It's the 9-11. Yeah. That is the worst thing that could happen. Nothing worse has ever happened. No. In history. Yeah.

- Yeah, that's it. It's a small, small state. - And you're the biggest YouTuber in your school, right? - No. - I know, yeah. - Fuck you. - Are you not? - I went to a school, it's Hollis, Brooklyn. They had to combine two towns and our graduating class was like relatively small. It was like 200 people.

And I'm not the biggest YouTuber who graduated from that school. I just want to ask you that. Because there's this annoyingly big, successful Fortnite YouTuber who's like, Mr. Top 5. And it'll be like, Top 5 Fortnite glitches in Season 8, Act 3, Prog 2. Like, whatever. It's like 4 or 5 mil. Oh, you ain't catching up to that.

up to that. Oh, I didn't get, come on. Come on, I'll get there. That's like five, and by then he'll find, he'll be on the Roblox hype, dude. He's DMing. He's like, dude, we went to the same school, and I don't have the heart to message him back because all I feel is anger towards him. Don't talk to me. I'm like, who's your podcast assistant, huh? He's also younger than me. Are you like a senior class? I'm older than him. That's even more insulting. I'm supposed to be cooler. I was a senior. You were a freshman.

So that's sad. - I'm the biggest YouTuber from my school. - Oh yeah, of the 20? Are you the biggest Welsh YouTuber? - No, I think there's someone who did like FIFA or something. - Roald, idiot. - Yeah, LaMal, hell off the ratio. - Hell off the ratio. - Are you the biggest YouTuber from your school? - I mean, I am. I mean, I would be the biggest YouTuber in my city until fucking PewDiePie moved here. - But even then, some Jack would say. - We got Jacksepticeye there. I got a ways to catch up.

- But they came into my territory, you know. I feel like that. - You're the biggest native in Brighton. - Yeah, you know, I was like born and raised there, no? - If by that metric, I wouldn't be the biggest YouTuber in Wales 'cause I don't live there anymore. But native, you know. - Are you native to Brighton? - Yeah, yeah, I was born and raised in Brighton, yeah.

- Isn't that like an amazing town to be raised in? It's beautiful, right? - Yeah, yeah. I mean, right now it is. It wasn't even like a city when I was growing up there. It was just like a small town. And then suddenly it became, I guess now like the San Francisco, I guess, of the UK. - Is the YouTube a hub of that?

- Yeah, now it's like the YouTube hub of the UK. - Yeah, everyone lives there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Every YouTuber I've met. - Yeah, either you go to London and like you hate life or whatever, or you move to Brighton and just have a great time 'cause it's just good vibes. What can I say? - It'll be well seen. The Wales will be the hub of YouTube. - Well, yeah. - You'll see, you'll see. - Climb eight mountains if you pass the bar and you've gone too far.

- You get one megabyte upload down. - Yeah. - Brighton's nice, but Cardiff though? - It's got some nice sheep though, right? - We do have nice sheep. - You're saying it weird though. You're saying it like you like them too much. - Nice. - What a nice sheep. - From the wall.

- Cheap houses, very cheap houses. - Yeah, I imagine, cheaper than here. - Way cheaper than here. - I'll give you that. - Anything's cheaper than here. - You did that one video where it was like, what can you get for like a million dollars? Did you do whales? - No.

- I did like, well, I did like the click-baity ones. Japan gets clicks, America gets clicks, Philippines gets clicks. - The Welsh flag is clicks, dude. - Welsh flag does not get clicks. - It gets clicks, dude. - It gets clicks. - You just think kids are like, "Dragon." - Yeah, everyone's like, "Dragon, dude." - Cool dragon. - It's like the one Welsh person trying to get like Welsh culture up there. - I'm trying my best, dude. I'm trying to, they won't do it. For some reason, the Welsh board of marketing or whatever the fuck is not doing anything. - You could probably like say,

- Say, hey, I want to start a channel with you guys. You pay for it all and you just teach Welsh lessons once a week. - Who would I talk to? Who's the fucking guy? - You like upload YouTube. You talk to the Welsh guy. I don't know. There's like seven. - The Welsh guy. - Seven of us dude. - Just go in. - Do you know any other Welsh YouTubers actually? - Now that I think about it, no.

No, not at all. Because no one can understand him. You know, I think I told about this story. There was this TV show that was produced by like the, because the, Wells has their own like TV, I don't know, fucking, what do you call it? Network syndicate. And they had this documentary, which was like about successful Welsh YouTubers. And I was so pissed off they didn't ask me.

- You weren't on it? - No, because they'd got someone who had like 10,000 subs. I'm not like a guy who's like, I don't give a fuck about numbers. But at that one time I was like, are you fucking kidding me? I would have said yes. They didn't even reach out to me. - Wait, were you living in Wales at the time though? - No, but that's even more hype. That's more hype though. Come see me in Japan, dude, from Wales. That's awesome. Like that's a success story. - Your accent's not thick enough for them anymore. - I could have brought it back. So, you know, I just make

these videos in Japan, you see. I'm going around and I talk to the natives, you know. And we make these fun video. Like I would have done it. Whatever they wanted, I would have done it. I would have been flexing anything. I was so annoyed they didn't ask me. And I'm like, yeah, I just thought, come on, even there's more than people with 10,000 subs. There's someone else who could have gone. - You should ring him up and be like, do you know who I am?

- Well, I think that's where like, it was just the production company were just like, "Ah, we found this guy. "He seems to be doing somewhat well." - He's good enough. - Like followed the life. - It was probably click bait. They probably found the guy and then they were like, "Oh, we'll make the segment." Not like, "We'll make the segment, we'll find the guy." - Yeah, and the person who was the YouTuber had like a full-time job as well. And I'm like, "What the fuck is the point of this? "It's not even their main shtick." - It's like just home videos. - I'm just like, "Come on guys." - What do they have in Wales? Is it a president?

- We do have a, yeah, prime minister. - Prime minister? - Yeah. - Be that, go be that. - I don't think it's that easy. - How many people live in Wales? - Three million. - In my mind, just run for office, right? - Oh, that's pretty big. - Well, England has like 60 million. - I mean, yeah, I know it's not that big, but it's bigger than I thought it'd be. - Yeah, well, it's more than Northern Ireland. So we're not the smallest. - Right. Hey, you're not Isle of Man.

Yo's got that. Who wants to be the island man? Exactly. Chris says it's nice though.

- Yeah, I've heard it's really good. I haven't been myself. - Well, Wales is really amazing. - I'm always sussed when someone says like there's a really nice spot to travel to in the UK. 'Cause I'm just like, why would you travel to the UK when you could travel out of the UK and experience something even nicer? You know what I mean? - People go around England and England is just the same shit, different place. - Well, I went to England my first time and I went to a beautiful town. Do you know Stoke-on-Trent?

- You went to Stoke-on-Trent. - Yeah, this is the same reaction I gave him. Stoke-on-Trent is not a great place. - I had a lovely vacation there. - Where is it? - It's north of London. - Yeah. - Why would you go to Stoke-on-Trent? - Why in all of the UK did you choose to go to Stoke-on-Trent? - I just thought it'd be lovely. - Everything is north of London. - I thought it'd be lovely and it seemed nice. - You went for a smash tournament. - There was, at the college, Staffordshire. - You went all the way for a smash tournament? Was it worth it?

No, no, not that. I mean, it was still fun, but I have, I've definitely gone to like, I used to go to smash tournaments and that'd be like my main reason to go somewhere like you guys with conventions. That's just what a smash tournament is. But then I was like, you know what? Traveling is exhausting and I cannot do YouTube or stream when I'm doing it. And I've, I've gone away less. I don't know if you've noticed that with conventions, it's like harder to sign up to go to one.

- Yeah, I mean, that's why we fucking took our equipment here so we can work on the road and make content. But other than that, I mean, I think the reason we're traveling so much this year is just 'cause we've spent like two fucking years of pandemic and we just want to travel.

- Yeah, we needed to get out. - Yeah, we were like, I've never been like stir crazy in a country before, but that's how I felt after two years of Japan. Love Japan, I just miss speaking English sometimes, you know? That was a massive thing. But what was your experience of British culture then? - It was pretty chill. You know, the Tesco meal deal is great. I went to a casino, everyone was really nice. The taxi drivers were way too comfortable talking about doing cocaine.

Stoke-on-Trent, right? Yeah. Outside of that. It's just something to do. Yeah, yeah. Great. We'll be back again. 10 out of 10. Nice Indian spot. Cool. But certainly not my number one vacation. No. Well, you started on- Have you been to London at all? You've seen London a bit? We went when we did the podcast with Asa Butterfield to London. Right. And that was chill. But I also find-

I went first day. I went to Coventry to do a podcast with Tommy and I, and I, I feel bad when I'm just like, Oh, I'll just vacation and hang out. So I didn't like do that. I just worked the whole time. I recorded super auto pets, VODs in my hotel room for like a few hours instead of going out. Was that the same hotel that I sent? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, they did not have a desk. How did you do that?

Mine did. Mine had like a little desk. Oh, fuck. Mine didn't have a desk. And I was just playing Super Auto Pets. It was just a game. Live or just? No, just recorded. Why? Because they did well on YouTube. What the fuck? But I don't feel like I should permit myself to just, you know, just have a night on the town, go get drunk. Why not? Like now you're signed now. So now there's not that much pressure. Maybe. I'm also, I think I'm anxious after COVID to just like go out to a pub alone and just be like,

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- With Intel, ASUS ROG and it's PC specialist during Intel gaming days. More info at the PC specialist website, terms and conditions apply. - Back to the episode. - When next time you got to come to a cool city like Brighton? - No, no, no. - Yeah, come to Brighton. - Brighton's so overrated. - It's probably nice though. - It's not. - It's not. - I like Brighton. - What, what, what? You're comparing it to what, Wales? - They're like, oh, we've got like a seaside and the beach is like mid. It's like a really mediocre beach.

I stayed in the worst hotel of my life in Brighton. - Really? - It was by far the worst hotel ever. - Where did you stay? - It was the one right next to the pier. - Okay, well you don't stay near the pier, you know, that's- - Yeah, but it's like this giant hotel and the best location in Brighton. You'd think it's this historical building and somehow they just made this like just amazing

miserable experience. Just like, I walked into the room and it was just mold everywhere. And then you go to the bathtub, you're like, oh, I'll take a shower. There's black shit all over the bathtub. You're like, what the fuck?

"Oh fuck." And they charge money for this. And then I went to boil a kettle. - That's usually how hotels work. - Yeah. - What? What? And so I went to boil the kettle to make a cup of tea 'cause at least if there's one salvation life, I can have a cup of tea. I can have that. I go there and the coil in the kettle is just rust, just completely rusted. And I'm like, "What the fuck?" These are like five pounds to get the shittest kettle. 'Cause the hotel kettles are the worst ones. This is a British problem.

- I can't believe they deprive you of this. - I just- - Basic human right. - In the UK, that is a basic human. In the UK, the hotel room will have like, they won't have fridges, but they'll always have a kettle. - Yeah. - Did you notice that? - I did notice that. - They will not provide toothbrush and two faces. - They'll have a kettle. - But they will have a kettle. - They'll always have a kettle 'cause you need tea. - Yeah. - You just always need a cup of tea. - You'll be in like a one star hotel. It's like a fucking mattress on the floor and there'll be somehow a kettle there. - You know, we used to go to like France, right?

like every year for like three weeks. My mom would always bring a kettle with her. Oh, because they don't have it in France. She wanted to make tea. Yeah. And in France, you're just taking a shot of espresso. Moving on with your day. Just be rude to someone on the street instead. That's how you get your kicks for the day. Yeah.

They're nice in southern France. Fuck off. Yeah, maybe like that. Outside of Paris, they're nice. Yeah. In Paris, they're dicks. But that's also the charm. Like, you want that. No, fuck. No. Yeah, it's like a fetish. You want them to like spit on you and be like, you speak French. Just go to downtown LA, man. You can experience it. But you speak French. I speak French. Yeah, so you probably had a better time.

- You have to speak French. - What will happen to me is, 'cause I speak French, but I speak kind of like a seven year old and everyone in Paris speaks English. So sometimes like it depends, but I'll speak French and then they'll reply in English and I'll just be like, - No, because I got denied entry into a restaurant because I didn't speak French. - Oh, that wouldn't happen to me. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. That's rude. - Yeah. - Yep. - Probably racist. - Yeah. - It was absolutely racist.

I think that's like the definition of racism. - That's the definition of racism. - So as I was saying, like you want that, like. - Well, it's such a great experience. - Part of the charm. - Yeah. - Got kicked out, I was frothing at the mouth. - Brighton sucks, that was the main point. - Yeah, that's fair. - I disagree. Of course I would. - Well, why wouldn't I? - Brighton's a natural cool city in the UK. I can't believe you're like digging on Brighton. - You've never been to Wales. - Huh? - You've never been to Wales. - What's in Wales? - You can have a look.

- It's actually this really cool YouTuber with 10,000 subs. He's my favorite. - You go to Cardiff? - Yo, Sea Dog VA's house, that's not a tourist spot. - Cardiff just has like a castle in the middle of the city. How fucking sick is that? There's just a castle. - Can you go in it? - Yeah. - Oh, then that's cool. - Yeah, right. - I'm on board. - There's no castles in Brighton.

- There's like a Rundale castle, which is like pretty damn close actually. - Is it destroyed? - No, it's working. You can go in there. - It's working. - It's working. People still go there. - They're currently fighting out of it right now. - Castles are either working or ruins. What's your thoughts on English breakfast?

- I mean, I love English breakfast. I wouldn't have it every day, but it's too much. - Oh wait, you wouldn't have 2000 calories at 8:00 AM every day? - It's too much. - You know what they have in Wales? Actually the best English breakfast ever. In Wales, ironically. - Did I call it a Welsh breakfast? - You're trying to single handedly double the tourism of Wales in this podcast. - There's this one place near where I grew up and it's just like,

- It's a farm, right? And the whole point is that all the farms come together and they all bring their produce to the store. It's like a hipster kind of thing. And so they make their own everything. Like baked beans, I've never seen homemade baked beans. I don't even know it existed. I thought Heinz had the monopoly. - Yeah, they've owned all the beans. - I just thought you weren't, it was like illegal to make

beans that didn't come in the Heinz can. But no, they made everything fresh. The egg yolk was so amazing. It was like bright red, so raw. It was amazing. Mushrooms all fresh. Bread was baked there. Bro, it was game changer. It sounds great. I can't have English breakfast anymore. I mean, that's communal, right? Like that's the penultimate breakfast you can have. Yeah, and it was expensive, but it was good. It

It was amazing. It was so good. - I mean like British, like English breakfast is one of the few British cuisines I'm actually proud of. There's not many in England. - It's pretty fucking good to be fair. I just can't have it more than three days in a row. - I like shepherd's and cottage pie. - I think it's better than American breakfast.

No, what's wrong with having 80 grams of sugar at 9 a.m.? What are you talking about? Why did you guys trick yourselves into eating dessert for breakfast? Yeah, why did you guys think pancakes were a breakfast for breakfast? It's because when you're a kid growing up, there's like a cute bunny and he's like, eat my cereal. Do you eat breakfast? Uh,

Yeah, I have a protein shake and a banana. I have a boring breakfast. I was going to say, that's pretty boring. Because cereal is terrible for you. Yeah, it's awful. You're not having Grand Slammages and fucking a Danny's? But hey, they go hard. I do like pancakes, protein pancakes. What? Protein pancakes? Yeah, you can get like pancakes that are infused with like protein powder. Oh. So you get like a little. Does it taste different or? You can't really tell because I lather peanut butter on it. I love peanut butter. Right, right. So.

- Right. - So that's just my shit. You know what? If they changed British breakfast to be called English brunch, I'm on board. - Well, it's not meant to be eaten traditionally as a breakfast. - Oh, English breakfast isn't? - No. - When is English breakfast meant to be eaten, Connor? - Basically lunch. - Yeah, basically you have a hard night. - It's a late lunch. - You need a hangover cure. And that's when- - You gotta change the name to brunch. It's a marketing problem.

But British people don't get brunch. That's like- - They wouldn't understand the combination of words. - I don't know if English breakfast was made in like South England or North England. Because in North England, they don't say lunch.

We don't say the word lunch. What do you say? Dinner. Yeah, they say dinner. Oh, that's right. Oh, and supper? No, no, no. We say tea. Tea. Tea for dinner. So when I was growing up, my mom would be like, oh, I'd be like, when's dinner? And that's like 12 o'clock. And then when's tea? Which is at...

- That's so weird. - Why are you laughing? What was that fucking face you just made up? - You just made up a word. - I did not. How is tea made up words? - Let's have ladder. You guys want, that's drinks. - It's been around for, I don't know how long it's been around for actually. That's a good point. - Look, you made the language. I can't be mad. - You guys skewed it. I am assuming it was bastardized into lunch.

- Yeah. - Maybe it was always dinner and then Americans were like, "No, this is too complicated."

- That's just a Northern thing. We say lunch down in the South. - I wonder which one, who started saying, which one changed? - What came first, lunch or dinner? Technically it's lunch, that comes before dinner. - Checkmate. - When you look at the map, what side is like the colloquially dumber side or like more rural? Not necessarily. - I fucking dare you. - Definitely the North. - Are you trying to start a civil war?

- Like who are the dumb idiots that deserve nothing? - The middle ones. - Connor? - Yeah, well typically the North has always been poorer. - Yeah. - Okay.

I felt the pain when Connor said that. London's in the South. That was the greatest save of all time because you rephrase it in a way that makes you the hero and me the villain. He lives in the rich South. Yeah. Swirling his martinis while I'm swirling my iron brew infused with a shot of vodka. Just crying. Just trying to make it through the winter. You ever had an iron brew? No. Oh my God. What's that? You don't know what iron brew is?

- It's a Scottish drink and it's just, it's kind of popular up north. It's this drink that is filled with sugar. - It's awful. - It has more sugar than Coke. - I think Americans would love it because it's so sweet. - Yeah. - Well, you guys have had a root beer, right? - Yeah. - I love root beer. - Really? - Yeah, root beer is awesome. - It's fucking vile. - I gave it to Connor, he hated it. - I love root beer. - No, root beer is fucking awesome. - It's like poor man's medicine. I don't know, it just tastes like shit. - That's Dr. Pepper. - What? - Root bark Dr. Pepper tastes good? - Dr. Pepper is good. - Nah.

- Dr. Pepper tastes too medicine-y for me. That's the medicine taste. - We gotta get every soda and do a soda tier list while you guys are still here. We have to go through it. - Yeah, one thing about going back to like North and South divide, like a big debate in the UK is where like even the South stops and the North begins because there's this place called the Midlands, right?

I don't even think the Midlands exists, you know, because anything above London is the North to me, right? Yeah. Where does the North begin for you, Connor? It's literally been like, there have been studies on this. It's like a diagonal line.

Right. Where it's kind of, cause it's not like a, everyone wish it was a horizontal line, but it's diagonal. Cause you don't want to throw Wales in there. Well, no, cause Wales would be considered North. Right. That's why it's diagonal. Cause if it wasn't, Wales would be part of the South. No, it would be probably part of the North. I'd imagine. Oh, still. Yeah. Which part of Wales? Cause like Wales is kind of in the middle. Right. So it's kind of, I don't know. Major cities in the South or the North. What? Like Cardiff? Yeah. Cardiff South. Yeah. Which would be South. I'm not from Cardiff.

- I'm from the North. - You're from the poor section. - Yeah, unfortunately. Again, the poorer of Wales, which is all poor. - I'm from the poor. - You're the poor, really poor. My man's struggling. - Yeah, I just can't get it. I can't catch a break. And I didn't even get the documentary to be on the Welsh biggest YouTube channel. - No Ws from Wales. - I literally can't get a W. - Are you showing me from Wales? - Even in Wales, I can't get a W.

- I think my favorite thing I've heard about the Midlands is who were you hanging out that said they went to Birmingham and they were like, "I understand why they called it the Midlands." - Yeah, I forgot who it was. It was like, yeah, I was like, I think it was one of my friends from high school 'cause he lives in the UK now. And he was like, "Yeah, I went to Birmingham the other day." And I was like, "Why'd you go to Birmingham?" And he's like, "I have a friend who lives in Birmingham." And I was like, "It was pretty mid. I think that's why they call it the Midlands." - Man, Stoke-on-Trent is above Birmingham.

I just looked where it was. I thought it was like in the middle. Oh my God. - Wait, so Birmingham is the South? - No, Birmingham is Midland. Although that's what people from Birmingham would say. - Yeah. - You're like an hour from, Strickland Tren is like an hour drive from where I grew up. - Really? - Yeah. - Well, it's a lovely town. You should go visit it with your family. - Go to Smash Tony? - Yeah. - How he was there? I don't even wanna know. - Did you have fish and chips while you were there? - I haven't actually ever had fish and chips in the UK.

I refuse. I don't think you guys would do fries, correct? What the fuck? Your fries suck here. Wendy's, bro. Come on. You had them. Yeah, those fries were good, but like thick fries from like Fatburger? That was terrible. You guys can't do like thick cut fries. No. Or chips. But I also don't want them. I want them fried salty with a bunch of MSG and I want to feel like a little tubbo guy. That's what I enjoy doing. It's a greedy endeavor when you even attempt to eat fries. I love the thick fries though.

- I actually enjoyed the taste of potato. - What? - I know. - You guys are not eating it for oil and salt? - No. - Okay. - Unfortunately not. - Interesting. - You know, it depends on the mood. Mostly I prefer like thin carp, but you know, sometimes you just want a nice thick,

bite a potato i want to think bitch yeah all the time it goes well with the sauce yeah i respect that yeah did you try any other british food while you were there no i tried to avoid generally we have a tesco meal deal all right tesco meal deal goes hard yeah it's very good uh and i don't mind that but everything else i didn't go to greg's once nando's i did go to nando's but that's not british food

- I mean, we try to pretend it's British food because it's one of the only things we can actually- - Well, like everything in Britain, we take it from another country and then just say it's ours. - Yeah. - That's been our history for a very long time. - I guess that you are the literal kings of that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause like in a lot of Indian restaurants, they like serve chicken tikka masala and that's a British dish. - Well, it's Scottish actually. - Okay, okay. - Is it? - Yeah. It wasn't invented in India. It was invented- - Tikka is like a-

are a Scottish thing, like the way of cooking the chicken. - I see. - It's like a Scottish thing. - I did not know that. - It's a Scottish dish. - So if you've ever had a chicken tikka masala. - Yeah, when I go into the Indian restaurant that I local, I'll say this is Scottish, just so you know. Just so you know. - But then like, I think like most Indian restaurants in the UK are ran by Bangladesh people anyway. - Yeah. - So I mean, you're not even getting authentic experience.

It's close. Well, it's like going to a Chinese restaurant here and ordering sweet and sour chicken, right? Yeah. Because that's not even Chinese food, right? I think it's all bastardized versions of the food that would be palatable to the people who want to consume it here. Yeah, of course. But surely if you teleported any American to like Shenzhen, China, and they went to like a local eatery, they'd be lost. Oh, yeah. Like Kung Pao chicken, like what's going on here? Man, Panda Express looks different. Is Panda Express good?

I mean, it hits right. - Yeah, I think you're being the right move for Panda Express. - Yeah. - Yeah, 'cause sometimes I've been- - What is the right mood? - It's the mood of fuck, there's nothing else open.

- That ain't a mood Joey. - The mood is I need food and I need it now. - I just need some food. - But it's just a bodily necessity at that point. - But I don't wanna like chow down on a burger or like a pizza or like anything like greasy. I just want like something. - And you go to Panda Express for a non-greasy food? - Well, I've only been like twice. So, you know, that says a lot. - I will say, I do think sometimes the bastardization of food is good.

- Well, yeah, like I'm not gonna say no to a fucking- - Sushi rolls are amazing. - Yeah, I'm not gonna say no to a California roll. Like that shit still slaps. - It's an innovation in a way. - I don't think that's like the bastardization of food though, right? - Some people would say it is. Like I think there's an argument to be made.

- I mean, I think the best argument I've heard is I can't remember what chef I was watching, but I do believe you can cook food from any culture that you want to and no recipe is sacred. The only time it is actually offensive is just if it tastes bad.

Yeah, I agree. But I do think there are people who would be upset if you called a dish like what it's called natively. Like if you called it sushi, but it was like some amalgamation of fish in different things that tastes good. But it's like, you can't call that sushi. Yeah. Oh yeah. You know, I do get that where I've seen like some people try to cook Thai dishes and like, I've seen some, I've seen some,

There was this like reality TV show on Netflix where people from the UK would try to like make their own restaurants and pitch it like kind of like...

- Kitchen Nightmares. - Sorry? - Not Kitchen Nightmares. - Not Kitchen Nightmares. - Like Shark Tank? - Like Shark Tank. - Buffer meals and food. - I remember these two British blokes tried to pitch opening a Thai restaurant in Manchester. And so they were going about their backstory and they were like, "Yeah, we firmly believe that you don't, as long as you understand the culture and you understand the recipes and everything, that no recipe is sacred." And I was like, "Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not gonna get patriotic,

to my own country just because someone else wants to cook it. And then there was talking about their experience cooking Thai dishes. And they were like, yeah, we've been to like Thailand for like two months and did like a bootcamp. And then that was it. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? - That's like the backstory of the two guys who started Outback Steakhouse. - Oh really? - They'd never been to Australia. - Supposedly.

- And it's an Australian restaurant. - So, 'cause like I remember the first time I went to an Outback Steakhouse was on Australia Day, God forbid, in Japan of all places. And my friend was like, "Yeah, there's an Outback Steakhouse right there. We should celebrate Australia Day." - What a crazy mashup of cultures to be eating

in an Outback Steakhouse, an American made Australian restaurant in Japan. - In Japan, yeah. - With my Japanese friends. - Presumably Japanese chefs as well. - Yeah, yeah. And I'd never been to an Outback Steakhouse. So I was like, oh, let's go in. It's supposedly Australian, right? - Yeah. - And immediately my eyes just glazed over from all the fucking boomerangs on the walls and like the deezery dudes everywhere. And it's like, I looked at the menu and I'm like,

- Bloomin' onions. - Blooming onion is not Australian, I'm sorry. And they had Fosters there. I tried Fosters for the first time. - Oh God. - In Japan? - Yeah. Tastes like ass, dude. - It's awful. - It's fucking horrible. I'm like, no wonder they don't sell it in Australia. Fosters has single-handedly ruined Australian beer reputation. - Yes. - I mean, Australian beer still sucks ass, but like, Fosters is, yeah, there's a reason why they don't sell it in Australia. No one would drink that.

- Yeah, it's like in the UK we have our local beer that's mass reduced is probably Carling. And I'm so glad that you can only get it in the UK or have only seen it in the UK 'cause it tastes like piss, right? 'Cause you had Carling, right? Did you have Carling? - Yeah, I did. - It was horrible. - I think it's, yeah, it's definitely UK. - Let's have a look before we go. - I mean, I think that's every country though. Like we always release our worst product but it's maybe the most palatable 'cause it's just water and it gets you pissed drunk quick. - Well, what'd you say is the worst American beer that you guys have ever had?

- Bud Light. - Is it Canadian? - It's Canadian. - No fucking way is it Canadian. - It was founded in 1840 by Thomas Carling at London in Upper Canada. In 1952, Carling- - Oh yeah, there's a London in Canada. - Oh, you thought it was- - Weirdly enough, it's a Canadian company, but they only sold it in the UK. It was first sold in the UK.

- Is it only sold in the UK? - I don't know. - So it's a UK beverage made by Canadian men. - We have so much good beer though that isn't Carly. - Yeah, we do, we do. Most of them actually comes from the North actually. You guys make good beer up in the North. I'll give you guys that. - There's a W. - There's a W. - Wales, Wales, Wales. - That's how you sell Wales, we have good beer. - We do, it's very affordable as well. It's like half the price of London. - Yeah. - Third time the price. - Yeah, what do you think is the worst

that you guys export a lot. - It's all shit. I mean, it's like if you have Bud Light, you have Natty Light, which is terrible. - Budweiser sucks, right guys? - Yeah, yeah, that sucks. - Do you secretly love Budweiser? - We did a beer tasting stream once, a blind beer tasting stream from like beers from all over the world. - And we thought Budweiser was like a German beer. - Like Budweiser, like normal Budweiser or Bud Light? - Normal Budweiser. - I mean, that's better. That's a full bodied.

- Yeah, but like. - It doesn't bode well. - It certainly doesn't make you look like you have great taste. - Yeah, exactly. 'Cause especially we were like drinking and we were all like, yeah, German beer. Definitely German beer. - Is there a big drinking culture in New Hampshire? - No, big fentanyl culture though. They do a lot of fentanyl. - What's that? - That's the like the- - It's the most lethal drug in the world. - Oh shit. - Yeah, it's like what they tie in with heroin and that's how people die.

- Huge opioid crisis in New Hampshire. - Is it actually? - Yeah, they're bored. They're bored. I mean, it's less people in New Hampshire than like Phoenix, Arizona. It's like 1 million maybe. - You must be bored if you can't even turn to alcoholism. You're like, "No, no, I need something harder than alcoholism." - Yeah, we need to go further than beyond. - The American medical system has failed America. - But it's cool drugs, man. You're losers. - What the fuck? I don't think it's cool. - Well, you know, New Hampshire's same motto?

- Now what is it? - Live free or die. - Oh. - Is that actually? - Yeah, it's bad-ass. And they'll inject that into their veins. - Is that what they say right before they do the- - At least they were free. Can't take that away from them. To my fellow New Hampshireites,

- I thought the East Coast had a good drinking culture. I thought they were all about drinking beer and- - I think Boston, Boston's, I mean, in general in the States, they've relaxed microbrewery laws. So there's insane beer culture if you're really into it. - Well, yeah, I guess Boston makes sense 'cause every second Bostonian is like, "Yes, I'm Irish."

- Yeah, they all claim. That is my biggest pet peeve of Americans is claiming like a European culture when it's like you have zero attachment outside of you took a 23 and me or your parents told you like, yeah, we're Irish I think. - Yeah, that's my favorite copium where I'm like, oh, so where's your family from? And they're like, oh, I'm like one 16th Irish, one 16th Scottish. I'm like, that doesn't count. - Why do they try and hold onto that? Like, why is that something they gravitate to try

label themselves. Connor, it's not that cool to be just American these days. I don't know if you've kept up. But like, no one's going to be like, yo, shit, for real? That's badass. Like, why do people still try and do it? I think it, like, it also ties into things. That's how it comes up. It'll be like, oh, I can drink all night. I'm 15% Irish. I don't think alcoholism just goes

goes through genetics. No, and of course it doesn't. But then it'll be like, you know, be like, oh, I can't be in the sun too long. I'm 20% Polish. So like they just have that and that's like they'll spout their one fact. This is like an RPG skill tree. Yeah. I've spent too much in a string. I can't, I can't do the agility. Exactly. But it's like your starting stats and it's like, it doesn't matter.

- You can speck anything you want at this point. - Yeah, yeah. Like I'm like Southeast Asian, full-blooded Southeast Asian. I cannot fucking handle the heat at all. So obviously it's got nothing to do with my genetics and everything to do with my fucking upbringing, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. All bullshit.

What is your ethnicity, background? So like culturally, I'm very French. 5% Irish. Welsh, baby. I'm mostly, my dad's side is like all Swedish and then my mom's side is all Spanish and they both immigrated to America from there. Oh, so you're first generation. Yeah, I'm first gen. I'm the only person in my family tree ever born in America. Wow. But now I'm hard-blooded American. Wow.

Through and through. My blood's red, white, and blue. But yeah, everyone else, like mostly France and Sweden's where they all live now. And have you seen like your family in Europe and stuff like that? Yeah, we used to go every summer. So I would spend like a month in Europe and I was always like a pissy bratty kid because I'd be like, I want to be in America and get a cake for my birthday and hang out with my soccer friends. And I'd be like, no, you have to go on like a multi-week trip. Where's my Sunny D?

You have to go to France and Sweden and experience cultures. And I was like, no. And I was such a brat. I regret it because we would go to France and it'd be like near Nice, like beautiful. And I'd be in my uncle's house just watching Naruto, like mainlining filler episodes. And then they'd be like, oh, come out. Let's go to the beach, like Pelleveste floats. And I was like,

Yeah, we spoke about this in the car. I had the same thing. My parents took me all around. I just wanted to play games. I hated that they took me around. And now I kind of regret it.

But when I was a kid, I was like, all I want to do is play Pokemon Fire Red. Like, leave me alone. Mine was Pokemon Ruby and watch Naruto. And outside of that, piss off. And I don't want to speak this stupid language. Speak English to me. I'd like go around hunting for Wi-Fi. Like, my whole thing is the whole trip, I would just try and find Wi-Fi. Yeah. That would literally be it. And it was so hard back then, too. Oh, yeah. Because there wasn't like a Starbucks or McDonald's that has free Wi-Fi for everyone. Yeah. It was hard. And then you'd have to go and ask the staff really awkwardly. And they'd be like, oh, God.

We're in France, we don't wanna give you anything. - I would just like stock up on games on like my Game Boy and just like bring like a fucking rucksack full of game cartridges so I was never bored. - This is like the age that you're trying to date a little bit, you're trying to message, you're trying to keep up, you know? And I just couldn't 'cause there's no wifi. - Not me, not me. - That's a you thing. - I tried to. - I was married to Pokemon.

I had the week before I was supposed to go to France. I got a call after school had ended from this girl and, and she, her name was Alexis. And she's like, Hey, uh, Rae Slin, which is another girl from my class. Rae Slin wants to date you. And I was like super uncomfortable and I'd never like done that before. So I was like, uh, I'm going to France. And she's like, well, what? Like she wants to like, she wants to like date you and like, like you can date when you come back. And I was like,

Oh no, I got to go to France. And I kept mainlining that. And that's how I got out of it. That next year, Rae Slin got expelled permanently because she showed up to school with a bunch of knives. She was very edgy. Oh wow. She used to show up with like- You could have had the goth girl GF. She was goth girl GF. She would show up with powdered sugar and be like, it's cocaine. Yeah.

And then she showed up with knives until she got expelled. But then I think she actually became edgy because she tattooed 5150 on her neck, which is the cop signal for like crazy person on the loose. And she got it just big tattooed. So I could have dated her. What does help? But I went to France. Could have had the girl. She wasn't like other girls. So like why smash? What got you into that?

Oh, like Super Smash Bros? Yeah, because you were like a... What? Smash. Just in general. Just in general. Smash. Everything. Philosopher's been working on this one for a while. How did that get in? Smash Bros was because Smash 4 came out and I wanted to be better than my friends. No. Roll is the third one. Oh. It goes... Yeah, yeah. Ultimate? You make me so disappointed. Which one's the fourth? It's the one for Wii U and 3DS. It's literally called 4. It's called Smash 4 Wii U.

- Oh, I didn't know that. - Smash 4, Smash 4 Wii U. - Why can't you just say which one it is? Why did you say number four? - He did, he said Smash 4. - I'm explaining why you're wrong. - I'm sorry, I don't know the chronological order of all the Smash games. - It's called Smash 4 though. It's not like it was called like Smash 4 Fight, Fight, Fight. - Smash Wii U, just say Smash Wii U.

He's a real smash. Creator Clash 2, me versus you. I got into it because Smash 4 for the Wii U in 3DS that came out in 2016 came out and I was the worst in my friend group. Oh.

And I was always the worst of my friend group. And so I wanted to be better than them because I went to college and I was like, I'll come back and I'll beat their ass. Like an anime. Yeah. So I went through a training arc and I watched a bunch of videos online of J-Tales and that's where I found like Retro Gaijin and I would watch his streams to get better. And I got a lot better and I even showed up to like some events and I came back and I

Just whooped their asses, which I found out it turns out it's not that fun. I was going to say, yeah, when you're way better than your friends, they don't want to play with you because they keep losing and it's sad. So the gratification I had of being better was replaced by sorrow of not being able to play with them because they didn't want to play with me anymore. Suffering from success is just one punch man, man.

It was too easy. No opponents for me. Well, then I found out, though, there was a competitive scene because what happens is you beat your friends. You're like, I'm goaded. I want to play someone better. And you go to all the locals and you're like, oh, wait.

I'm actually like level three and I'm all the way down here. - Did you just get stomped the first local you went to? - First local for Smash 4, I did okay. But I watched the, I don't know if you've heard of this, the Smash documentary. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Have you guys seen it? - The four hour one? - Yeah. So I watched that and I was like, I'm playing the wrong game.

And I switched to melee. And then I was like, I was all the way down here. I was terrible because they have like decades. Yeah. Yeah. Work put into it. And people have trained for a long time. And I found out that the college I went to, there's a hundred man locals. It was like free to play, no prize entry and no money for you winning, but they just play for the fun of it. Right. And, and a hundred people show up and I, and I wanted to get better. So I was trying to go through a training arc. So I did this thing one time that I saw in the documentary where I challenged a

a bunch of guys who were in a clan to a money match. Right. Yeah, they were called Cocklot.

And that was their clan name. And I challenged each and every one of them to a money match. And they just ran a train on me. Oh, yeah. Just one by one dusting me, taking $10 from me until one guy pulled out Donkey Kong, which is like one of the worst characters. And he beat my ass with Donkey Kong, which is never supposed to be Jigglypuff. And I was like demoralized from it. But that's it also made me addicted. So I just played like every day for like three years from then. Right. Did you ever get any good? Yeah.

I meme about it now. I was like, all right. I was, I beat like a couple notable people like chilling dudes, Mario, which is not his main character. And I got top eight at a charity tournament once. Pretty, pretty good. Not bad. Not bad. But I was all right. I never, I switched pretty quickly to commentary because it's like, wait, I don't have to try and I can make fart jokes and you

You get more Twitter followers. You get more stage time. Yeah, that's cool. Oh, damn. Do you ever want to get like, did you ever want to pursue it further or get even better? Or are you just like, nah, I've reached my ceiling. Do you ever have this thing where you really want to be good at something, but then you think about being good at it and you feel the gratification of thinking about being good? I did that.

- That almost sounds so sad. - So you're just sitting there being like, I could be really good at this. - You got the gratification of feeling good without doing it. - And it's like a micro hit, but it is instant as opposed to like the literal five years of work you would need to put in to get the true satisfaction.

- So you're getting that fake serotonin. - Yes. - You are getting that real serotonin. - This man is micro dosing on happiness. - Yeah. - It's like, oh, every morning, oh, it's good. - It's like if you find a sick anime and you're like, fuck, this is the greatest anime and you want to find something else like it, but you just never try to find something else like it. You're just like, no, I'm good. - I can just rewatch One Piece for like five million. - Yeah, literally. And I'll just rewatch this in my mind and I'll be the best in my mind. - Except it never happens, right?

It's okay. In my mind, I'm sick. So when did you start watching anime? Well, I applied. So I worked at Apple. Okay. Which I was, they had a college program and I would do tech support, which was mind numbing because I would talk to 60 year old people on how to reset their iPhone. And I was good at it too. I was like top 10 at one point out of like 2000 in the college program. Talking to old people? Yeah. Cause like they would, they would, they would,

They have every single metric on her. So it's like, how long were you on the call? Were they, was it a successful call? Did they give you a positive review? How quickly did you pick up a call after hanging up that call? Cause you enter back in the queue. Like, was your downtime good? And so they, they tracked all of this. And like, I had a six month period where I was like, just going off trying to do really well. Yeah. But after two and a half years, it was like, it was grueling for two and a half years. Yeah. So I would watch anime on the side.

And I did it because, oh, this is so cringe. I even hate talking about this. All right, all right. Go on. So usually what happens is you go to college in a different state or somewhere else, a different city, and you come back home for the summer. Yeah. One summer, I was like, no, Sigma.

I'm going to stay in this town because I have the dorm anyway. Yeah. And I'm going to work on self-improvement. Okay. And I made a YouTube channel called self-improvement. It's so good. And every day I would, I would work on fitness. I would work on learning a new language and I would work on playing the piano. Okay. And by the end of the summer, I would like have my level up moment. Yeah. And I would record myself and,

at like 9 p.m. in 95 degree weather in Phoenix, Arizona and then just take a picture of myself shirtless, like fully relaxed and I would just, I imagined a time lapse through all of this and I'd like practice a piano and I'd be like, Ichi, Ni, San. And I uploaded like maybe two of these. Right. And I recorded intros on like rooftop parking lots. Exactly.

Again, I'd never done YouTube to this point really. And I got a call from my mom. She's like, sorry, YouTube channel. Cause unbeknownst to me, it had been cross posted to my Google plus account, which she had access to cause she knew my email. Yeah. And this was like my one viewer. It was my mom and I was mortified and I stopped it that day. She was like, she was like,

So you're doing some fitness stuff, huh? She didn't really get it. She's like, what the fuck are you doing? So your mom stopped you from doing self-improvement? I was embarrassed and I didn't want my mom to be my only viewer watching me run shirtless. Who knows where you could have been right now? You could have been teaching a self-health class. I'd probably be on the jet program playing subpar piano running around the streets of Tokyo shirtless. I'm happy with where it ended up. You reach in here, man. Are you like...

- He's Mikey, he's ripped, he's like Mungo Jozu. He's got it down man. - He's playing Rushie in his head. - How does this, feedback to anime?

- Well, so then I quit that and instead what I did is I was just watch anime. - For the rest of the summer. - Literally the opposite of self help. Your mom find out you were doing self help so you were like, "I don't wanna do this anymore." - I'm gonna roll my brain. I'm gonna become a weeb now. - What's the opposite of self help is watching anime.

It's how you ruin your life. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I did instead. So wait, how did you, why, why anime? You never watched anime before this? You were just like, I'm just going to watch anime. I watched it as a kid growing up. I watched Naruto. I watched Dragon Ball Z Kai and, uh, but I never watched anything else. I had like a couple shonen jump. Yeah. Um, but nothing hardcore, like One Piece 2. Uh,

And then when I applied for the jet program, I was like, cause that's where I pivoted after the self-help thing. I was like, I'll do a jet program. Okay. My mom won't see that. And I was like, okay, Chris broad videos. And what's a good anime. I looked it up and I was like, okay, sort out online. And,

- Oh no. - My first anime. - It's not a bad first anime. I do think it's good. - It's flames. - It's good. - It's such a good show. - I think it's very good at introducing people to anime. I will say that. - It's a good gateway. - I mean, it is like, it has all the tropes you will find in anime. - Yeah, it gets you ready for anime. - Crossfield of Dreams song is also good. The one where it's like the- - Or Crossing Field. - Yeah, Crossing Field.

And I'm like, and it's like spike. It's three D's. It's like, I want to be, you die in the game, you die in real life, you know? And it's a lot of tropes that I know. And I was like, I'm all on board up until the main villain was holding the like main protagonist girl and like, like sexually assaulting her.

- Oh yeah, that's in the alpha. - Which time? - I was like, whoa. - Which time? - Yeah, which time? - Yeah, yeah. - Happens often in Sword Art Online, unfortunately. - Yeah, it's every arc. - And then season two, the sister's like, "Oh, Nii-chan." I'm like, "Whoa." And then I was- - I'm actually your cousin. - I was like, "Maybe I should find a new anime."

I stuck it out all the way through the gun series too. - Oh, Gun Gale? - Yeah. I gave it a good- - I watched all the gun ones. - Ass shot online as I like to call it. - Yeah. - Literally just ass shots and then shaking finally with the sniper goes. - Yeah. - Apparently it gets better. - No. - Like recently it's gotten better. - It does. - No, it does. - No, I've heard it's good now. - Okay, like as much as like clown and sword arts online, it's just kind of like my junk food. I've actually, I realized this recently, I've watched every,

anime of Sword Art Online that's been produced so far. - Really? - Yeah. I don't know why, how or why I did this to myself, but I did. And the latest season Alicization, I generally think is a lot of fun. Would I call it good?

I don't know. It's kind of like fun. In American culture, a lot of the times people have like a sitcom that they just watch on repeat. It's like their comfort sitcom. And it's, it's well, it's like it's friends. It's him. Yim. It's big bang theory. If you have no taste and it's just their show. And like, that's what sort of art is, you know, it's just easy. It doesn't surprise you too much. The big bang theory of anime. Yeah. It is.

- Honestly? - Yeah, but honestly? - It has its fan base. - So you finished Short on a Line, then what did you watch? - Well, then I wanted to be cultured. So I looked up what the best anime were and I tried to watch those. So like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, couldn't get through it. - What? - I couldn't get through it. - Did you eventually get through it? - No, it was so long.

- Hunter, Hunter. - What? - It was so long, Connor. - It's 64 episodes. - Yeah, but by episode like 35, it's mostly like recap and talking and no fighting. - Wait, which one? Brotherhood? - Yeah, Brotherhood. - Why? Did we watch the same show? - It's so slow. It's a lot of recapping. It's not well paced, I think. - I haven't seen it in a long time, so I can't say. - You are the only person I've ever met who has started Brotherhood and hasn't finished it. - That's like blasphemous. - You know what's fucked up too? I love Silver Spoon.

- What's fucked up about that? - Where the fuck did that come from? - That's a good show. - Same director. - Yeah. - But it's like- - Nothing to do with- - It's clearly the less popular of the shows that she's made. - Nobody talks about Silver Spoon. - Yeah, I love Silver Spoon though. - But to be fair- - Two totally different shows as well. - To be fair, your favorite anime that you told me about in your thing was a huge surprise. Like the fact that your favorite anime is "Welcome to the NHK" says like already a lot.

Yeah, because what I did is like you go through the any lists like top hundred and like I gave at least every big show like an episode or two. Right. And I was either like, okay, I don't vibe with this. I don't fuck with this and I don't subscribe to the

dude, you just got to watch chill episode 77. I agree. I agree. And I don't, I don't buy that. It's like, okay, but it hasn't hooked me out every one piece fan. Yeah. It's like, if I haven't, if I haven't like gotten into it, then I, I, my time is more valuable than subscribing to 70 episodes to enjoy something. I can just enjoy something off episode one. And that's great. Yeah, of course. Uh, and so I, I try them all and then you do what you normally do, which is ask other people. And so I asked Will Neff, do you guys know Will Neff? No. He's like,

He's like another streamer. I do. I didn't name sounds familiar. Yeah. He's a, he's a, he's a pretty successful streamers of super sweet guy in like one of the greatest entertainers I think in the space. Uh, and he's a huge weeb. Right. Right. And he's an older guy and he's like, yeah, you gotta watch welcome to the NHK man. Like it's a little horny, but it's like, it's, it's perfect. It's like you're ever feeling lonely. I'm like,

That's all my boxes. And I watched it and it's so good. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible. I haven't actually watched that one. Really? I've been putting it off.

- It is, I think like the worst first anime if you've never watched it. - I think you need to be in the right head space to watch it. It's not a happy anime. - No, it's about being like a neat, right? - Yeah. - It's like where I found out about like the term of Hikikomori, you know, that's literally from Welcome to the NHK. But yeah, it's like very real, depressingly real a lot of times. So it's not something you watch to be happy. It's like something you watch to just feel

I don't know what the right word is. - It's like OSU Reformed for a week. It's a great show and you learn a lot from it and it's very real, but it's not entertainment. - Yeah, well, I think that's exactly what I switched 'cause in senior year of college,

like this is also like kind of right when it started and i was watching anime right my girlfriend and i broke up because i caught her cheating on me right and i made a visceral decision i literally was like i am going to try to cry more because i'm not like a guy who cries a lot when i watch shows yeah right uh which is like a literal shift in how you like try to process them yeah and so then i like i tried to do it first but i was like okay i'll watch your line april you said dry crying yeah

- I was like, that made me cry. But I was like, am I crying because it's like good and making me feel or is it 'cause it's emotionally manipulative and they make you attach to a character and they play the sad song at the sad time when you're supposed to cry. - Oh no, I totally get what you mean where there's like two different types of crying where there are some shows which you cry. You just, you don't even know why you're crying.

You feel like a fucking dog. - Somewhere in there. - Yeah, you feel like a dog there where like you have like the right triggers and then it just like triggers your tears and you'd like, I don't know why I'm crying. - That was silver spoon for me. - Really? - You're not supposed to cry at that necessarily, but at a certain point, like I was at the festival and I was like, it's so beautiful.

And I was like, that's why it was one of my favorite shows as opposed to like a show that's like, you know, the classics that like, you're going to cry. Like the cry face, like I'm a hunter and stuff like that. We have planned this for you to tear up, which I don't, I think that's, that's more BS. So that's why I love welcome to NHK. Cause it makes you feel so much. Yeah. It's like a former Lachmus brotherhood. Well, towards the end, I am a homunculus. I am not a real person.

- I'm not gonna cry at that. - I can't get over the fact you got 30 episodes. You did not get 30 episodes in Andrade. - I did, I got all the way to a point where they were in some like white universe and it was like blondie with the fucking alfalfa hair and he was talking to himself. - Isn't that near the fucking end? - It was close. - That's pretty close to the end if I remember. - What the fuck? - And then I was like- - Hold on, no spoilers, Garnt hasn't seen it yet. - Oh, she knows. - Ever? - No, I've never seen it. - How are you on this podcast? - That's what I'm saying. - What?

- Okay, you got further than me. - Wait, how are you calling him out for not watching it when you haven't fucking finished it? - 'Cause I don't have a podcast called Trash Taste in a 15 year career about anime. - Yeah, I mean, it's just one of those shows where- - Garnt has to explain it for the 19th time. - I have to explain it every fucking time. - I don't know, don't explain it, I don't wanna fucking hear it. I'm just gonna think of you less for having seen all of Sword Art Online and not- - This man is boasting about watching every season.

- Not even like people who like Sword Art Online watch all seasons of Sword Art Online. - Full Metal Alchemist at this point is just gonna be like the last anime I ever watched. I'm gonna be like 90 years old on my death bed. I'm gonna be like, now's the time to experience brotherhood. - And then your soul fades before the final episode. - And then I'm gonna get 30 episodes in and then my soul's gonna fade. - I've never heard of anyone getting halfway through it and dropping it. That is psychotic. - I think maybe if I retried it, 'cause it was an

it was an early show. Like I stuck through all of Hunter x Hunter. - Were you killed by the hype of like hearing about the show? - Yeah, 'cause it was listed as like one of the best. - Okay, yeah. - It's the GOAT. - I don't think it is. - I don't think it is. - What? - I don't think it's the, I don't think it's the close. - What do you think of some hyped anime that actually like meet the hype then or meet the reputation? - Madoka Magica? - Hell yeah.

- That shows that it's- - That's a good show. - That's a great show. - I don't think so, no. - Good. - I haven't seen the movies. - You probably know. - "Promise Neverland" season one.

- Yeah, we don't talk about season two. - We don't talk about season two. - We don't talk about season two. - Wait, this is season two? - You don't have to watch it, it's fine. - Is it great? - No, no. - This is a bit. - Nah, it's a bit. - I stopped watching it. But season one I think is amazing. It's like a show that if I told someone to watch, it's like, they'd be like, "Yeah, that was great." - I just can't fathom that they fucked it up. - Death Note, Code DS. Why can't you fathom that? People fuck things up all the time. - Because it was just literally like, "Just follow the blueprint." - 'Cause it was literally like the fourth highest selling manga. - Literally just follow what is happening. And then they were like,

- Like the manga was so successful and the fan base was so big so that you'd think there'd be like massive pressure to be like, all right, we got to deliver to the fans. And then they were like, I know what they'll like, a PowerPoint presentation for the last episode. - Yeah, they just skipped. - They skipped everything. - Yeah, I heard they skipped the best arc. - They skipped the best arc. - Can you imagine if that happened in like the One Piece anime? People would like, I think there'd be riots in Japan.

I think it would actually would like quit jobs. - They also do the opposite where they just extend it for 3000 episodes too long. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They're like, we don't have enough manga. - It's like why is there no in between? Why do we have to extend it a billion times and then why can't you just follow the manga another time? - Shonen recap syndrome is what I thought. - If it's the fourth highest selling manga,

fuck would you not just stick to the manga? - Honestly, I don't know. I don't have an explanation for you. - I don't know. - 'Cause they fucking killed it on season one and all they needed to do was just do more of that. - Stick to landing. - And then they just didn't. I don't know, maybe they wanted to finish it in two seasons, but I don't know why they would. 'Cause it's like,

- I think it's always down to like probably rush timelines and some person above you who tells you to do things and you have to do them. - But I was just assumed that if you were the, you're a studio, right? It must be a fucking blessing getting a show that you could make like 10 seasons of.

'Cause you get guaranteed revenue. - Well, no, 'cause maybe you don't have guaranteed funding for those seasons. 'Cause then you end up with situations where it's like, you have a show that's great and then it's never finished. And then that's like an equally bad fate to die from. - What was the first show you watched where you had that cruel realization that sometimes, very often in anime, it just doesn't end or they just stop making it or the manga can quit? - Dude, I watched "Devil's A Part-Timer"

- Oh yeah. - Like five years ago, I was like, dude, this is hilarious. And I was like season two. And then you find like the threads being like, is there a season two? Is there a season two? And I was like, no. - Actually there is now. - Yeah, I know. - It's actually airing next season. - I'm hype on that. Cause that show was really funny and I liked it a lot. - I wonder if it'll be as funny as I remember.

'Cause I watched it like five, six years. - Also I watched it dubbed as well. - The dub was really good. - The dub was really, really good for that series. So I don't know if I will, it will- - I watched the same. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I feel like when it's such a comedic timing show, having good voice acting in English definitely helps. I appreciate the jokes more as an English person. - Yeah, I mean, I feel like,

especially with comedy shows and comedy anime, my favorite comedy anime are all ones that have amazing dubs. - Yeah, "Penny and Stocking." - Huh? - "Penny and Stocking," you've seen that? - "Penny and Stocking." - "Penny and Stocking" is a fantastic dub. - No, 'cause I generally don't go to anime for comedy 'cause I think 99% of comedy animes aren't funny. - Yeah, yeah, that is very true. - That is true. - It's rare I find a good comedy anime. - Yeah, a lot of them are like, "Comedy?" - Like what's the one that everyone talks about that's been long, "Psyche?"

- Is that it? - That show sucked. - You know, one of the fun- - I was like, holy shit. - Have you watched Sakamoto? - No. - That one's fun. - I think that's pretty funny. - Sounds like a ligma though. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, Sakamoto. - Yeah, he's Sakamoto. - That's like kind of, how do you describe Sakamoto? It's more like Mr. Bean.

kind of in a way. It's very slapstick. Oh, like physical comedy? Yeah, very much. It's like if Mr. Bean was a giga chad. Right. I would love to see the live action of Mr. Bean just yoked. Isn't that Johnny English? Yeah. What are some other shows that you like, man? I feel like...

- I had a Shonen phase. - Everyone, that and everyone else in the world. - I see you were once 14. - Your favorite Shonen? - I loved "Hunter Hunter."

- Yes. - 'Cause that shit was just, it was just great. - What you call it? Full Metal Alchemist? Long and you finish Hunter x Hunter? - Name another show where you cry over an octopus. - Huh? - Name another show where you cry over an octopus. - Yeah. - One Piece. - Yeah. - You cry over an octopus in One Piece? - Cry over a lot in One Piece. - There's a lot of things you cry over. - Okay, well I gotta get that. - I think for me, it's like,

They just, they, they've mastered the formula in every shonen. It's like, they know the exact moment to play the exact song. That's like the perfect song where it's like the Naruto theme or it's like the, you say run and it's like the climactic and they just have it. It's like, it will never surprise me ever.

It's basically the hero's journey retold a million times, but they're good at it. - They're very good at it. - But you know one thing I miss, I've noticed like a lot of Shonen shows or just anime shows have been doing this less often recently, which is, you know, it's the end of the season and then they play the OP. And I've noticed they stopped doing that. And it was just like, yeah, it became a trope, but it worked every fucking time, right? - Where it's like they lift off in a sunset and then you know season two is coming or something. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just like, I wish they brought that back. - And they're all laughing.

- And it's the 80s freeze frame. - It's that. I think it's a bit corny. And what happens is it's too corny and then it goes out of style and then it comes back in, right? - Yeah. - It always cycles. - Yeah. 'Cause like, I remember, 'cause "Hunter x Hunter" had the same OP throughout its every season. - That gets me hyped up every time. - Yo, it got you so hyped now. And now every different season has a different opening. I'm like, come on, bring back "Hunter x Hunter", man. That note only needed one opening. - "Departure"?

- Isn't it crazy 'cause like Attack on Titan has like 10 openings. - Yeah. - That's fucking- - They're good. - Rumbling is awesome. - I like that they try new ones 'cause I feel like they come out with some bangers. - Well, I feel like Attack on Titan, I can understand it because every season has such a different vibe to it. Like season one and season four have like nothing in common with it. - But you know, the one thing I do like about it when they have the same opening is that you recognize it so much more. - The familiarity. - So like sometimes you play an OP and you're like, I don't know,

what this is and it's like, oh, it's a Titan season three opening one. You're like, what the fuck? I had no fucking idea. I listened to this. - I have that problem watching Gintama 'cause there's like literally 20 openings in Gintama. They're all bangers, but it's like, you know, you want that one where you just like, oh yeah, I remember that. - But imagine Naruto only had one. They have the best intros. There's so many goaded intros. - That's true, that's true. - It's true, but like how many do you remember out of like the millions that they've had? - I only remember Haruka Kanata, the second one, which is like arguably the best one.

- I think I remember like three. - Oh, Bluebird is good. - Did you ever watch "Bakemonogatari"?

- The Monogatari series? You'd love that show. - Would he? I don't know if he would. - I think so. - He likes NHK. - No, he'd get to the toothbrush scene. He'd be like, "What the fuck is this?" - That's like out of pocket shit. - Yeah. - What happens? - It's some horny shit. - Tell me what happens. - Yeah, he'll like it. He'll like it. - Kinda say it in your voice though, slowly. - There was a, there was a,

It's a fucking weird show. If you thought the... Wait, what was the first show you watched? Sword and Line? With the guy...

"Holding onto the girl was a fucking weird shit." You're probably even more weirded out by this stuff. - I mean, that was early on. There's weirder shit. Eventually what happens, it's like when you're a kid and you see live leak footage, you become desensitized to the internet. Anime fans become desensitized to what is weird. - There's a very famous scene where the guy's sister, his sister is brushing his teeth and it's animated like porn.

and they're all like moaning and shit and like- - Oh, while brushing? - Yeah. - Like, is the brushing so good? - Yeah. - So like food wars eating? - It's like brushing his teeth is very sexual. - Honestly, it's fucking awesome. - Honestly, I'm gonna defend this because it's a really, really weird scene. - 'Cause it's a brother and sister. - No, no, okay. Genuinely.

- I think that brothers should be allowed to fuck sisters. - Is that genuine? - I wish hentai was this well directed. It's such a well fucking directed scene to be like, okay, how can we make toothbrushing really uncomfortable and really weird? And yeah, it's fucking weird and it's horny as shit, but like- - Is that what opened like your chakras to brother sister kind of? - I don't think- - No, that was our email. - But you must have watched "Back On The Gathering" first, right?

- I watched "Bakamonogatari" first. - But it's not even in "Bakamonogatari", it's in season two. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, like "Bakamonogatari" was just, it's a weird show in general. It's called like very weird, like directing choices. - It's one of my favorites. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's a Joey show. - 'Cause it's fucking like, it's art housey. It's like nothing fucking makes sense and then everyone's like, that's the point. And it's like, all right. - But it does make sense is the thing. - Do you think "End of Evangelion" is like that?

- That's like way too mainstream now, I think. - But it also doesn't make that much fucking sense. - No, I think Evangelion is kind of mid. I think it's kind of way over hyped and it was just like, it just happened to be there the right time. So it kind of caught massive popularity because of that. - Yeah, I rank it high so people think I'm cool. - And it was doing something unique.

Yeah. No, fuck you. I'm not even entertaining that comment. It's true. I do that. I was like, yeah, I love that shit. That was great. But when I think back on it, I was like, I don't feel like I should have it. Did you watch Evangelion? Were you like, this is insane? I was just kind of like, okay. I mean, I think...

I don't know if it's because I've watched shows that have come out after, but maybe if I was there at the time, I could see why it would blow the fuck up and be such a big deal. But now it doesn't feel that special. - Yeah, I mean, Ava for me, like Ava's like one of my favorite shows of all time. I fucking hated it the first time I watched it. Like I legitimately thought it was like the most overrated piece of shit I'd ever seen in my life.

And it was just, I don't know. It's very, it is a pretentious show. It's a fucking pretentious show because I only liked it because I was fucking depressed one time. I watched it and I'm like, "Fucking hell, there's someone who gets me." Because that's just Ava. - He's just like me for real. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like the whole struggling with relationships and growing up and struggling being a teen. I just like, 'cause I watched "Pocorano" before it. I thought "Pocorano" handled it like way better. - Yeah, but I'm sure "Pocorano" took notes from even

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And then they're like, the kid's like, well, fuck yeah, I want to play a game. And so he's like, oh, go on this thing. And then he teleports them to a mech. And then he's like, all right, who wants to pilot the mech first? And then some kid's like, yeah, fuck yeah, I want to pilot the mech. Kid pilots the mech. And he's like, right, now there's another mech that is invading your world. If you don't kill this mech, your world gets destroyed. And everyone's like, oh, okay. So then the kid takes it, beats the mech. And everyone's like, yeah. And the episode ends and the kid just dies.

Why? Because anyone who... It's a one-time use? Yeah, anyone who pilots the mech dies. And it's all like 12, 13-year-old, 16-year-old kids. And they're just using them as fodder? Yeah. So it's like a darker Ender's game? Yeah, but it's like... It's like...

It's not like it's kind of like a horror thing where it's like, whoa, it's like a death game. It's like they have to save the world and they have to die to do it. It's like a psychological. But they don't know. They all know. Wait, they didn't know though. They didn't know initially. And they see the kid die. They didn't know until the first kid dies. And then someone explains. And then the guy was like, oh, fuck, what happened to the kid? Dude, this is crazy. Oh, that wasn't supposed to happen. And like these kids. I guess it's gonna happen forever though. It's already running. It's already running. They don't know who's.

who's turns next. So all the kids are just kind of like, and you don't know when you're going to get summoned. So all the kids are just kind of dealing with their mortality. - Do they know they're going to win? - They don't know they're going to win.

- Like that would be the more stressful part. - Yeah, if they lose. - I feel like this was pretty irresponsible on the part of the adult. - It's extremely irresponsible. - Of course it is. - But it's an amazing show. - Like you should train the kids a little more. - And some of the kids deal with like this whole mortality and having to pilot this mech and it's so nuanced, it's so good. - Also the opening is sick. - Oh, you're fucked. - Such a good opening. - And like, I just felt like it offered so much more in that like kind of dealing with it. And in my mind, I felt like it did it better than even getting it.

- No, because like, I think it's entirely different from what I felt from Ava, right? Because Ava, like, I look at Boca Rana, I'm like, this is a really, really good exploration into like characters and how they deal with mortality and all that shit. But then like, you look at the last two episodes of Ava and it's just like, it's just a fucking person laying themselves bare. They don't even give a shit.

if they're making sense, 'cause it's making no fucking sense at all. But like, if you've been in that same head space, there's like a connection there that is hard to communicate, 'cause it's not really telling a story. It's just a guy just being like, "I'm fucking depressed, and I just wanna put something out there." - It's just like an overflow of emotion. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what I think is unique about Ava, where I don't even think like,

- If you say Ava's a shit story, I'm gonna agree with you. It's that there are like so many fucking plot holes and shit that doesn't get explained. - I'm not saying it's bad. It's just, I don't think it's as good as it's hyped up to be. - I don't know. - It's easy to say. Only bold takes here. This hype thing.

- It really might not be that good. - Well, you know, not everything that is extremely influential is necessarily gonna stand the test of time. - I mean, JoJo has a lot of dog shit stuff in it. Like I love JoJo to death. - You just don't get Avril. - I don't, like I legit just don't get it. Like I didn't connect with me at all. - There's also a lot of influential shit that you can understand and believe that's influential, but you don't care about. - Oh yeah. - Like in movies, like I've never seen Citizen Kane, it seems boring as hell.

- It's a pretty slow movie. - Three hours, Casablanca, no shot. Get some color in there. - Four by three? - Yeah, grow up. This is not some mash 64. - So pretentious they decided to go with the black and white scheme. - Bro, that's a lot of filler, man. A film is like three and a half hours or some shit, bro. Cut something that down. What is this, like the fucking Schneider Cut? - That's crazy runtime. - Any controversial lore?

on popular opinions of anime? - You got mad at me five seconds ago. - That's good, that's good. - For a little bit of us to miss brotherhood. - That was conversation. - Okay, do you do this? This is a quick aside. - Okay. - But okay, I will consume an anime. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And depending on if it's a good ending, I will feel emotion and I'll mull over the thoughts for like a day. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And then the next day I'm like Googling like, okay, what do people think about the show? Do people like the show? What did people say? And I'll look up all that shit and then I'll like add

outside knowledge, my own thoughts, and I'll try to form my opinion on it. Is that how you guys do it? Or do you just have your own thoughts? - I used to do that. And then I had to stop myself. So now when I watch things, I do not look at reviews. - Before?

before and after. - Really? - I don't wanna know. Sometimes I'll go, I'll have a look and I'm curious 'cause I'll be like, 'cause sometimes it's always when I think something is bad, but I'm not sure. I'm like, this is bad I think, and I feel like people might like it. So I go and look just to confirm. But I don't read reviews. I never read reviews.

Do you think that's 'cause it'll like sully what your thought of it is? - Definitely, I feel like there's, you know when you watch this like explainer videos and they explain more of the thing to you and you're like, oh, that's so big brain. Like I watched Dune and I love Dune, but when I watched a bunch of explainer videos, I was like, oh, I think I like Dune more. Then I'm like, I watched an hour and a half video about Dune. And I'm like, is that, I'm like,

like, do I need that to enjoy it? Like if I didn't watch that, would I like Dune as much? And it's kind of like this weird thing of like, how much do you actually enjoy something if everything has to be explained to you and bogged down and reviews have to be explained to you and all that. - Well, maybe it's not necessarily like new information they're feeding you, but rather something that maybe you thought subconsciously, which is now actually being said to you to make you realize like, oh, okay. I always thought maybe that element

might've been good. But now that I'm getting explained yet, now I can confirm my suspicions. Yeah. I mean like I,

I find as the guy who finished like all the fucking Sword Art Online, I've gotten to a point with anime where you watch anime and you see the good shit and you're like, damn, that's the good shit. I wanna find more of that. And then you kind of realize that you have taste, right? And so you have things that you like about shows and things that you don't like about shows. And just because some of the elements about why people are praising a show in like all the good shows are present,

that maybe it still doesn't appeal to you. So you kind of like shave off all the fat to only like the core elements that you do like, even if that's a very, very niche thing. So you get to a point where I can tell why I like a show.

even if other people won't like that show. Like I can say why I would like watched all the Sword Art Online, even though a lot of people clown on Sword Art Online. You recognize the shit things about the show and you just kind of learn to ignore it at the end of the day. - I like doing it 'cause it kind of feels to me like

like you can enjoy a sports game and like you can watch basketball. I'd be like, ah, dunk is cool. He jumped high. But if you are sitting next to Michael Jordan while watching the game, like his level of insight would be like, okay, you are, you are not seeing the things the way I'm seeing them. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I know that my lens is probably like very narrow and what I'm seeing in that goes for like shows, movies, whatever. Yeah. So that's why I like to, like I watched Tom Popo.

I think I told you guys about, which is like the Japanese 80s movie. Yeah. And I was like, this movie is sick. It's the only movie made in the 80s. Yeah. The only Japanese movie made in the 80s. Akira Asakawa or whatever his name is. No other movies were made in the entirety of the 80s. They've got one in there. Just replaying it. It was a tough decade is what it is. There was a recession.

The 80s, they were in the economic bubble. It was the best time for Japan. Somewhere else there was a recession. Sri Lanka was going through it. When is Sri Lanka going through it? That's true. Yeah, but I was watching it and I was like, okay, I left and I was like, I thought this was a good movie. I liked it. But then I looked up little things about it and I was like, yeah, it was actually also a direct contrast to Western American movies and old-fashioned spaghetti Westerns. They called it a

like a ramen Western. I was like, oh shit. And then like, I could think about it in that lens. And I feel like if I were to rewatch it, I would like have new appreciation. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, I feel like stuff like that, where you discover things that you can make that make you appreciate a certain show more. - Yeah. - That happens like a lot actually.

But like in terms of like reading, thinking a show is good and reading reviews and you were just like, "My opinion was wrong. "This show is actually bad." - I love it when there's like, you can rewatch a movie and there's those really cool things that you missed.

but I still think and fully believe that a movie or a TV show on your first watch should still have everything for you that you can enjoy. And if it doesn't do that and it requires someone to sit you down and be like, no, no, no, 'cause let me explain this to you. Let me explain. And I'm like, then it's failed. But if I can go back and do it a second time and watch it and I can appreciate all that, amazing. - Yeah, like the only time it ever really happens to me where I changed my opinion instantly is only like when I'm fucking watching like MasterChef or something.

you know, where they bring out a dish. I'm like, that dish looks delicious. And then Gordon says, it's disgusting. I'm like- - It's fucking raw. - I knew it was disgusting from the start. - It looks horrible, you know. - I'm with you, Gordo. - You're so right, daddy. - Damn, no cat facts.

when they bring out too much food and I'm like, fuck it, that's so much bang for your buck. And he's like, why is there so much food? It's disgusting. And I'm like, oh God, yeah. - It's like, yeah, give it to the children. - What a waste of food, what a waste of food, dude. Fucked up. - I was talking to Mr. Beast about that 'cause he hung out with Gordon. - Casual name drop. - I don't wanna flex. - You've heard of him? - I was a private jet, you know? - And he was like, yeah, he's just really serious about his food. 'Cause he'd be all jokey and fun 'cause obviously his Willy Wonka shit was like,

not real cooking. Yeah. But when he ate the food, he like took it so seriously and would retort like very seriously and like meanly, but it's just because he loves food so much. Yeah. It's crazy to love something and be that knowledgeable about it. Imagine having like, you know, Gordon Ramsay flies out to you and he's like, oh yeah, what'd you go get for food? Just pick a restaurant. You're like, oh fuck,

- What do you mean I can pick a restaurant? It must be awful. - Dude, you wanna hear something crazy? I think this will be fine 'cause it'll be released by the time this is out, but Mr. Beast was doing a no eating for 30 day challenge, which he told me about on stream before, yeah. Which is incredibly hard. I think I lost maybe five. - Five? I could do like one.

You could do more than a day. One hour. One hour. I've been in America too long. I can't do this. You did less than an hour in this setting and then got a box of snacks. I did an hour and I had to get a snack. Yummy Snackies. He lasted, so Mr. Biscoe's for like quite a while. The reason he cracked is because Gordon Ramsay cooked him a meal.

And Gordon Ramsay's like, yeah. - Was that part of the video or was that just unintentional? - It was unintentional 'cause he was filming Willy Wonka and then Gordon for his own YouTube was like, yeah, I'll cook you like this egg meal. And he cooks it up and Jimmy's like, oh, I can't eat. And Gordon's like, well, you're gonna have my meal. And like imagine not eating for like two weeks and then Gordon Ramsay is there. - How to break a man. - The most succulent meal.

- That is like your anime waifu coming to life on your no fap challenge. - Like second to last day of no, not no video. - It's like, oh! - Okay, okay. - Your balls just explode. - You come on site. - Speaking of which, do you watch hentai? - Not often, I used to. - Do you have like favorites? - In high school, I would just mainline fucking one piece Naruto hentai.

I would just... They didn't even animate it. It was just pictures. No, it was just pictures. Yeah. Well, because... He's a reader. He's a true cultured person. I would watch porn on my PSP, which couldn't load videos. Get the fuck out. Yeah. And it couldn't load web browser videos. 10p? I'd be like this. I'd be on my PSP. Watch it in the pixel, go in another pixel. So I would just watch... I would look at pictures and...

pictures of like porn pictures are like, they're really aggressive. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like porn, like IRL porn shoots. It's like, it's like a lot come everywhere. And I was like, like I'm a kid. I'm like too much for me. Yeah. That's when I was, I'm in high school, 14, 15. And, uh, and I'd go on benders too, like marathon jerk off days. Um,

And so- To the PSP. To the PSP. Making this sound like a fucking training arc. So yeah, I nutted every day for a year straight. I would try to go for my record. What was your record? That's like a new Mr. Beast video. It was like 18. In one day? In one day. And by the end of it, it's just like- You've got a carpet burn. My dick's just going-

It just dust flies out. - You did not do 18 in one day. - I'm doing 18 in one day. - You did not. - I can do 18 in one day. - I believe that's not even possible. - I would wake up, I would do a few. - A few? - I would do a few. - What? You can't back to back. - Yeah, I can cover a lethal weapon. Drake, 96, 97. I was in that bitch Connor. This is back, this is like peak balls drop. You are nothing but a horny child.

- I mean, I've been horny. I've been horny 18 times a day. - 18 is beyond horny. - I think it was like also- - We need like a Mythbusters episode of Adam Savage fucking going, "Is it possible?" - "Well, Adam, let me try to jerk you off here with this walrus massage." - Nuts busted. - "I pulled the visor, it attacked me off in record speed." - Pretty sure after 10, your balls just like invert back into your body, right? - I genuinely think that's awesome. - You could imagine doing like five or six.

The most I've done is eight. Yes. I think I was doing that and that's like more casual. Like, oh, I'm just- That's more casual? Fuck off, dude. This was like a goal. This was a goal. This is why Smash players smell so fucking bad. This is unrelated. Because they would do that 18 times and then rock up to the Invitational. I can't wait for you to have fun at Anime Expo. Fuck off.

It's gonna smell amazing, isn't it? - You're coming? - Yeah, for like 18 times in that day. And then I'll arrive to the expo. Yeah, so I was going for a record. - Okay. - For what purpose? - Just 'cause I wanted to see what I could do. I wanted to go further than beyond, come on. - Okay, okay. - And- - Limit testing his own dick. - And so, Naruto Hentai was helping you get there? - Yes. - Yeah. - Which characters?

Dude, I can't remember his fucking name. I could see the doubt in his eye. No, it's the girl from Naruto with the purple hair who had the fishnets. I know who you're talking about. She was this... Oh, Hinata. No. She was one of the senseis.

She was dating the guy with the blades. Oh, the one who... Into like older ones? Yeah, she's in the older one. Oh, you like MILFs? I was like, are you one of my men? Are you one of my men right now? Yeah, I was in a MILFs, I think. Who isn't? But I mean, she's not a MILF because she's still like... She's like a 25-year-old. She's an older controlling adult. To a 15-year-old, that's a MILF. Is that a MILF? It's not a true... Like, I think a true MILF, I would never...

Like a true mother, I would be like, "Oh, that is a mother." - What did Maylene say to you when you first, no, was it you? - No, no, it was ProCD. - Oh yeah. - What happened? - ProCD rocked out and within five minutes, Maylene's like, "But you know like 16 year olds can be moms, right?" - That's the intro? - That's what she said. - Keep it casual, all right? - Yeah, yeah. - Wait, so you don't watch stuff anymore? - No.

- No, not really. - Yeah, where'd you find the time? Where would you find the time? - I don't jerk off much. - Well, yeah, after 18 a day, I wouldn't either. - Your dick's aged like 50 at this point. - You need like a month or so to recover. - It's like it's been in the trenches, dude. It's got this trench thought. - Yeah, she needs a rest, Saga.

Yeah, I think it's like, you know what? Horniness is like the devil of working hard. That's very true. It's very true. It's like, it's the one thing. And so like, I've all been about working hard and also like have a girlfriend. But it's like, even before I had a girlfriend, I just went like anti-sex mode. I was like, shut off sex drive, work hard. And I was like, just strange. That does happen sometimes. I just get in like a trance for like four or five days where I don't even think about it.

Yeah. And then like the next three, I'll be like, I need a jacket. You're so much more powerful. Yeah. If you don't give in. You reckon? Yeah. Cause you're actually just like focused. And what if you have like a wet dream though? And then it's like, oh, I do. I do have, I used to have him so often. What? Cause you were jacking off 18 times a day. No. Like you're in cold turkey. I don't, I was like, it was like, it was like every month or every two months. I would just bust my pants when I slept. I was like,

It happened during the sub-a-thon. It happened during the show? Yeah. Did it actually? Well, because I didn't jerk off at all during the sub-a-thon and I didn't hook up with my girlfriend because, you know, we didn't have sex. Yeah, you're on live. Yeah, I'm live every minute. How many times did it happen? Like once, just once. Was it cool on camera? Definitely. I was live the whole time. It wasn't like caught like fucking, you know, Shamu drops down and a wave comes up. It's not what you were like. I just woke up and I was like,

And then I went to the bathroom and I hobbled over and I was like, that's funny. And then I told stream like three weeks after the subbing on ended.

Just enough to let the shame and you get it. Yes. Because I didn't want to tell them that morning because I was like, this is too close to the right. You wouldn't hear the end of it. Yeah. But yeah, that happens. It doesn't happen as much anymore. But wow, like my current roommate slime, who's the guy who got me into streaming. I slept over his house and we're going to smash tournament the next day. And I woke up just fucking trousers full.

And I had to go to him and I'd be like, look, I'm coming to you on the day of your daughter's wedding for some underwear. And he was like, yeah, that's right. But then you unlock the power of work. Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel like less drive to when I'm hardly working. Yeah.

I don't know. It gets to a point where there's a buildup, right? And then if you try to concentrate and work and then for some reason, like you just can't. You got a devil on your shoulder. Yeah, the devil on your shoulder is just like, come right now. No one will be as bad as Soda Poppin. He's an insane man. Why? Because he will be on stream. He used to do this back in the day more so, but he'd just be on stream and then be like,

I'm horny. I'm going to go jerk off. And he'd just leave his stream on and he would leave for like five minutes, come back and be like, all right, what are we doing today? And like shamelessly. What? On a consistent basis, there are still many clips you can find of this. And I was like, to have that lack of shame would be so impressive. Isn't there a clip of him shitting himself as well?

I mean, that's just art. Yeah. That's dedication at that point. I can't just, I can't believe. How could you not wait till the stream's over? Yeah, no. Sorry, what's, what happens?

- He just shit himself on stream. - He just shit himself on stream. - I think it was like a fart and it just came and then he immediately- - It's a shot. - He immediately was just like- - He shot himself on stream. - I just shit myself, guys. - I mean, what's the last time you shit yourself? - High school. - Really? - Yeah, that's when you were much, much younger. - Middle school probably. - Dude. - I've had some scares. - Yeah. - First like three months I was dating QT, I shit myself in front of her.

It was so sad. How did that happen? Wait, what happened? I just became horribly ill and I was staying at her place. Oh, that's understandable then. And I was just shitting myself constantly, but it was like a new relationship. But that's how you know she's definitely long-distance. Yeah, that's how I know she's day one road dog. But still, it's not great to shit in front of her and have shit underwear and be like a poopy dude.

But she was very cool about it. How did you explain it? I just had to suck it up and be like, I shit myself. I said it coolly though. You said it as coolly as you could. It's like, damn, I shit myself. Like, babe, I shit myself. You look down there, there might be some shit for you.

And she's like, oh, there it is. - What a vile creature. - But you were sick, so that doesn't count. - Yeah. - Like shitting yourself not being sick. - I mean, I have not shit myself. - That's negligence. If you shit yourself not sick, you are negligent and you are not taking good care of yourself.

- You either drink way too much or you are just- - I do not get the shits when I've drank too much. - No, I don't either. - Yeah, it depends. It's a per person thing. - You get it the next morning, right? - No. - No. - You don't? - No, I don't. - No, I'm 5% Welsh, so I never put myself- - Shut the fuck up.

- You don't get after grog bogs? - No. - No? - No. - Oh, I get them all the time. - What is the phrase? - After grog bog. - That's a great term. - In Australia we call it, it's an AGB. - So every time you drink, you get the shits afterwards? - Yeah, in the morning. I'm like, immediately I'm just like, oh, I feel horrible, I have to shit. - I think me too. Yeah, and it's never a pretty one. - No, it's never a pretty one. - Just some white clover, fixes everything. - You also can root, boot and loot in Australia. Do you know that one? - What?

What does that mean? So you fuck. So you fuck. Yeah. And then you boot, you throw up, and then you steal whoever your fucking stings, and then you leave. It's the root, boot, and loot. Who told you this? An Australian, I know. I mean, I haven't heard it personally, but I believe it. Do you know what a meat... Hold up. Do you know what a meat lottery is?

- Sounds familiar actually. - I've heard the term before. - In Australia, they'll have lotteries where the town comes together and you can win a bunch of meat and you can just buy a little vouchers to win the meat. - That's in like kind of small countryside. - When you said meat lottery, I was thinking something more. - I thought it was like meat spin, like around there. - They turn the lights off, they play who's in my mouth. And if you guess right, you get the meat. - Is that a dildo or a dick in your face?

- It's like the trikey taste. - Next YouTube trend. - Yeah. - Meat water and challenges. - Did you ever see that? - What? - The, the. - Is it a dildo or a dick? - No. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a YouTube video? - Yeah, yeah, that is a YouTube video. - What? - It would be like a screen, right? And you would just see the dude's like head and torso. - Yeah. - And there'd be a screen. And then someone would put,

- And then be like, you have to guess, is it a dildo or my dick? - And then the guy's like, no, that's definitely a dildo. That's a dildo. And then you go to the next one and he goes, no, this one's the dildo. - You have to be a hundred percent right, right?

- I didn't watch enough. - Oh, come on. - I just saw the title and I was like, wow. - No Mills, no me. - I just couldn't believe it was on YouTube. - Yeah, it is crazy. You can just look up like nude yoga and then immediately you get hit with thumbnails. It's just coochie. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's wild how YouTube decides to, just let Susan know.

- It's tight, I think, because the alternative is like you're on Twitch and then you're constantly scared of like a nipple flash or a butt flash and you're like, "I'm gonna get banned." But on YouTube, it's like, we'll just hit you with this yellow button. And that's it, you don't get banned. - So where's your stream of you watching nude yoga? - You know, it's coming. - Yeah, you can do that. - I would feel terrible. I don't wanna be like a child sexual awakening. Like I don't think most of my viewers are children. I think they're mostly like older, but there's a chance.

They're all adults and cool and chill at home. They're definitely like working adults with money and time and for chill. There's not a single kid in my audience. There's only adults who watch me. Come on, guys. They're all mature. But there's definitely a kid and you have like a weird sexual awakening and I don't want to be there for it.

- That's all I'm saying. - The con is like, thank you. If you didn't watch that nude yoga, I didn't tune into that stream. I wouldn't have met my girlfriend. - No, I don't want to hear this. Do it on your own time, brother. - Oh my God. - I'm hungry bears though. You guys want to get dead after this? - I'm so hungry. - Do you want to get some food off of this? - A tea if you wouldn't mind.

- You want some tea after this? - I'll take in some tea. - Let's get some tea after this. - Shut the fuck up. Don't mock my culture. - I'm sorry, I'm trying to- - Get into a frog's legs, you French boy. - I'm appreciating it. Okay. - That's Northern, man. That's all Northern. We say dinner like normal people in the South. - Don't call it your mans, dude. - Yo, that ain't my mans. - That ain't my mans. - You've heard my taste. You know what I've enjoyed. I really like...

things with mysteries like I've like erased parasite you'd like to race I like to race yeah I did even after the ending yeah no problems with it you know what I'm I think I'm a guy I don't give a shit about the ending yeah I'm okay with the bad I'm okay with a bad ending if the journey was good it doesn't okay I I do agree with that in some senses but a race journey wasn't even that good

- I think it was, it's not my favorite, but I think it was good. I enjoyed it. It was not a waste of my time. - But Erased was one of those shows where like- - The ending was so bad that it took away- - But the ending was also like necessary for it to be good. - Yeah. - You know what I mean?

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Like Game of Thrones, you know, it was a shitty ending, but we had a good time. - It's still, you know what? They just did a study, it's still super popular. It's one of the most popular TV shows still. - It's still a great show. Like first five seasons are great TV. - Yeah. - And like, I think people are so focused on the ending and it's not like, I think Code Geass is a better ending in Death Note, but it's no shot that it's better than Death Note.

Even if the ending's like beautiful and succinct or whatever. - People love Code Geass. - Yeah, they do. Even though the first 10 episodes suck, but they think that. - What? - The first 10 episodes suck? - Do they? - Yeah, they're terrible. - I don't think they suck. - I feel like the pacing is bad enough to turn people away. - What? - What, Code Geass or Death Note? - Code Geass?

- I thought the first 10 episodes were like the good parts. I thought it was like the second season where he got shit here. - I feel like Code Geass, there'd be an episode where it's just like today we are going to find a cat.

- And then the next episode. - Okay, yeah, that was a stadium. - Is that in the first 10? I thought that was like mid, that's like near the end of the first season. - No, it's pretty early. - Is it? - It might be like first 15. - I think you could Google this. - But all I'm saying is in the first like half of Code Geass, you'll have an episode that covers three months and then you'll have an episode that covers like a day at school. And it's really hard to watch and understand what's going on, I think. - Oh, the Stole Master, the sixth episode. Yeah, you are right.

- I'll give you that. - That's just like selective memory on my end. - That is a mid episode. - Yeah, but it's also just like, I think it's building to something and it takes a while to get there, but it's still a great show. That's all to say that those are the shows I like. - I think you have good taste though.

- Yeah, I agree. - Well, the thing is- - You gotta sort that Full Metal Alchemist shit out though. - I'll watch it again, I'll try it. - Yeah, I mean, the thing is talking to you, I'm just like, "Damn, this guy just doesn't like Shonen." And that's fine. Or do you like Shonen? - I like it. Like I've watched Full Metal Alchemist. - Would you say it's okay? - Or excuse me, I watched My Hero Academia is what I meant to say. - It's good. - I like it. It was all right. I stopped watching when girl was sucking him and he punched a guy really hard.

It was like the season two finale. The girls clinging onto him in a piggyback ride and sucking him dry. I'm so weak. That was chill. And then it ended and I was like, I will never need to watch a show again. It's offered me everything I can. - It was really kind of, the third season was really shit. - I'm trying to watch all one piece right now. - I'm reading all of it. - Watch it or read it. - I will read it.

- Reading it is a lot more manageable than watching it. I don't know how people watch One Piece nowadays. - Also the anime just sucks. - Yeah, yeah. - I've heard the recent arc. - The recent arc is really, really good. - What are you gonna do? Fucking flop between the manga and anime at will like some kind of psychopath? - That's what I tried to do. - You can't do that. - I do that all the time. - Yeah, for like a fight scene. - Okay, okay. Sometimes there are moments like I prefer watching anime, right? There's never going to be a moment in manga

that is going to hit as hard as that same moment being done well in anime. Because you've got the music, you've got the voice acting. - Sound effects. - You got the sound effects. Like to me, I'm not saying anime is the superior medium. I'm saying that I get way more immersed

watching anime if it's done right. 'Cause there's so many examples where anime isn't done right. - I've not read as much manga as you guys, but definitely the turn on that panel, turn the page, sorry. In Vinland Saga with the Escalade thing at the end. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Spoiler warning was like better than the anime for me. - Well, that's 'cause you knew it was coming. That's 'cause you knew it was coming though, right? - Yeah, true, true. - I feel like it's hard to judge because- - But in the anime, they have the music building up to it and have all the signs. In the manga, you're just like,

- But that what the fuck moment is what makes it so good. - Yeah, that's what makes it so fucking hype. And he's Welsh, of course. I mean, like that's pretty based. - Wow. - Yeah, I think One Piece is impossible to watch anime. Even though recent arc, I tried to switch over for- - Wano? - Yeah, for Wano, it was- - Don't spoil anything, please. - This is like a total aside, but he just fights a sumo wrestler. - Okay, cool. - And did you know that part? - Yeah. - I watched the anime of it. It's the worst animation ever.

The crowd is perfectly still, but they have like the wind effect over it. And they're all like this. And it's like, and their hair should be like this and shaking, but it's like, nothing's happening. They're just still. And it's like, it's like 80 seconds of reaction shots. And I'm like, God,

"God, you are the biggest in the world "and this is what you offer." It's so sad. - I just wanna milk it. - Yeah, I mean, just 'cause it's popular and big doesn't mean it's gonna be good, right? I mean, look at fucking "Seventeenth Daily Sin" season three. - Yeah, well, I think the problem with the One Piece anime is that it just never takes a break. At least with things like "My Hero Academia," "Jujutsu Kaisen," all that stuff, it comes in seasons, right? One Piece has just been airing since 1998,

Which is fucking insane. So like, of course the pacing is going to be shit, but I wish they did do seasons of one piece. I wish they just took some fucking breaks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's okay. The money, man. The money, the money. Yeah, well, apparently not enough for fucking, for promise Neverland. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Anyway, that's been this anime talk for trash taste. We talked about a lot of anime. Yeah, we did. Probably like the most in any guest episode. More than Prozy D? Yeah.

- Oh, we should write a lot of prose. - Oh yeah. - Equal amounts. - Equal amounts. - Equal amounts. - But yeah, thanks for coming on, man. - Yeah, thank you very much for coming on. - Hey, look at all these patrons though. - Yeah. - Pick your favorite patron. Pick your favorite one. - Oh, whoa. - Yeah, wow, look at that. - Piece of shit. - Hey, if you'd like to support the show, go to our Patreon, patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our face, listen to us on Spotify and yeah, go check out other stuff. - Yeah, anything I mentioned. - Shout out.

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