The Biggest Scandal in Anime History | Trash Taste #59
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- For free gentlemen. - Are we fucking jumping right into it? - Because that's gonna be the first topic for today. But right now I have with me the boys, Garnt and Joey, and I am monkey brain Connor. - You didn't even say hello. You just like fucking opened up with this. - That's what every good sales pitch does bro. - Like illuminati conspiracy theory. - Every good sales pitch starts

- With the hook. - Literally reminded me of that Wolf of Wall Street. - Sell me this pen. - Because, you know, now they're listening, they're intrigued. How can we get free anime? - What a hook. - They don't wanna know about Trash Taste. They wanna know why they get free anime. - Did you just use like the OG, oh my God, I can't fucking talk today. - A natural salesman never stumbles on his words. I said free anime, I wasn't stumbling. - Tell me more salesman who's totally not shady. - Well, if you just go to the Kickstarter page.

- Oh, we're gonna talk about that. - Anime tube, is that what it's called? - Anime tube. - Well, that's the first topic today. Two weeks ago, we wanted to talk about this last week, but Chris came on, inconvenience does again. We would have talked about this last week. - 'Cause we wanted to talk about anime tube. - We know Chris goes into fits when we talk about anime. - So we're gonna be like three weeks late, but the whole debacle is kind of finished now.

- We have all the info. - It like lived and died within the span of a day, I think. - Yes. - Pretty much. - It was very interesting. Essentially what happened is this thing called AnimeTube popped up on Kickstarter and offered to give all the kind, anyone really,

- Free anime. - Free anime? - And you're probably thinking, well, they probably only got like, you know, C-rate shows, you know, like really terrible. - What did they have? - They said they were gonna, they were in talks to get "Evangelion." "Love Hina," which has been stuck in copyright hell, not copyright,

- Specifically Love Hina. I don't know who like just specifically picked Love Hina to be on the list. - Death Note, Attack on Titan. - Full Metal Alchemist. - Even though these were already all on streaming platforms already. And I imagine that- - And the ones that aren't have been out of print for the past 20 years. - They say Re:Zero as well.

- I didn't see the list. - They've got everything, it's anime shoes. - And so I can't, I don't know how much these properties are worth, but I can't imagine you getting Evangelion for less than like a hundred million or something ridiculous. - Probably sounds absurd, but it's probably worth that much, right? So clearly these guys have big bucks to spend around. - I mean, I'm just glad a company is giving the power back to the people and taking on small indie companies like Sony. - Fuck license holders, man. - So taking on small indie companies like Sony and AT&T

Someone's gonna take these in the company out of the field. - What were they gonna do with it? - So yeah, so essentially this Kickstarter promised that and it raised in like one day, like $110,000. - It literally came out of nowhere because I remember we literally came in the Trash Taste studio in the morning

And then it was just all over my Twitter timeline. I was like, what the hell was going on? And we all looked at it and we were just like, wait, this Kickstarter launched yesterday and it's raised over a hundred thousand dollars promising people free anime legally. And I'm just like, what is going on right now?

It was an absolute disaster. April was about three months ago, guys. You're a bit late to the joke right now. Yeah, it was just a mess. It was hilarious, dude. It was a mess. I think it's so many levels to it. There's so many things that are really sad about it. One, I think it's safe to say that this was either the most over-ambitious Kickstarter of all time or...

- It was, they were lying. - All the most genius scam. - Now, yeah, I mean, you know, you have to be careful when you say these scams because you can get sued. So trying to get trash taste sued here, Jerry. But from what I saw, yeah, it's a scam. It's a scam. - Well, I mean, I'm protecting myself. I'm not gonna say the S word, but I'm going to say that it looked very sus. I'll say the other S word. - Little sussy scam.

- It's a sassy bucket is what it is. - I genuinely wonder because again, they promised to have all these titles that there's absolutely, not even like Netflix or Amazon can get all of these shows, right? This is some serious amount of cash.

and negotiating power that I doubt a Kickstarter would be able to convince the Japanese investors. - Like if Netflix and like Sony can't even get the rights to some of these. - Yeah. - What suggests to anyone that this Kickstarter group will be able to? - Like Evangelion literally couldn't be

- Even if it's been out of print for the past 20 years. - You couldn't get the license for it until Netflix somehow, probably don't even wanna know how much Netflix played for that. - I know the creator didn't even have the rights to it for the longest time until I had to fucking fight with Gainax to get it back. - It's insanity. - Yeah, I mean, the thing is, I think there's, as you said, there's so many layers to it because in theory, it's a nice idea. Having somewhere where you can watch anime legally for free in this utopian world.

- One part of me feels bad 'cause we're like laughing at the like, imagine trying to take on the big guy, funny. But like if it was a good attempt, I would be like go for it. - If it was a good attempt, but like keep in mind you're taking on like companies like Sony, like Netflix, you know, like people who have a bit of dollar in their pocket, you know.

- I don't think we're trying to be like, yeah, we love corporations and stuff like that. - No, because I feel like a lot of this was driven by the people's hatred towards corporations. And I get it. If you don't wanna support the big corporations because of whatever reason, I get it. But there's a difference between not wanting to support big corporations

And then like supporting like whatever this is. - Blindly accepting anything that you want. - It's like not wanting to buy paracetamol from your pharmacy. So you go to like the local drug dealer and they're like, what's the, yeah, I guess it's nonsense. - It's like bidding in a horse race, but the horse has two legs. - That's why I felt so kind of just sad about it really. I felt sad that there was enough weebs out there that,

were this desperate to like stick it to the companies. - It's like, yeah. - They would throw their money into a void. - Dude, weebs want free shit, man. At the end of the day. - This is also what I don't understand is that we have weebs that are this dedicated to say fuck you to companies that they're willing to give money away, but they could just pirate it if they really want to really get it for free. I'm not saying you should, I condone that, do not do it.

- I mean, it's also like- - If you're gonna basically- - I mean, it's also like with the money that they gave to this Kickstarter, right? 'Cause like there were a lot of people who were giving like hundreds of dollars to this Kickstarter. And like some people I saw were giving literally thousands of dollars to this Kickstarter. - When I looked, there was a thousand backers giving a hundred thousand. So it's, you know- - Rough on average, a hundred dollars each, right? - We're giving a lot of money this day. - That's like, you know, a year's subscription to Netflix.

- It's not about the money, Joey, it's about the message I'm sending. - It's about sending a message, the message of I got scammed. - Yeah. - I mean, it's the thing is where if anyone just like literally used a single brain cell, like think about like the logistics

of this, like just the logistics of why this would not work in the first place. Or like, you know, a hundred thousand seems like a lot of money to like any normal person. It's like a drop in the fucking bucket for like anime licensing fees and all that stuff. - You can maybe license

- No, no, not even that. You can maybe license the thumbnail of an image. - Half an episode of like a C tier anime. - Pretty much, yeah. - Yeah, I mean, yeah, and what surprised me is that they were, the shows that they were listing

as the shows they were going for, were like the fucking AAA titles that are worth millions and millions of dollars, right? I mean, God knows how much Netflix actually paid to get "Evangelion" out of licensing hell. 'Cause "Evangelion" was out of like, couldn't be licensed by any Western company for like,

- Like a decade or something. - Literally since it was made. - Yeah, yeah. - Basically. - Since ADV collapsed. I can't think of any other company that has successfully licensed "Evangelion." - And I think people like to think of anime still as kind of underground thing, but some of these shows are easily worth over hundreds of millions of dollars. - Oh, definitely. - Just think of the merchandising of these shows as well. The IP is so expensive.

- Like any of the mega shows, like any of the Shonen Jump shows, like My Hero. - How much is Attack on Titan worth? - Fucking Demon Slayer. - Demon Slayer is a billion dollar property. - Yeah, exactly. - It's already proven to be that. - Yeah.

I just, I don't understand. Like every, none of this, who were these thousands of people who gave money? Like I legitimately wanna know. - Yeah, I legitimately wanna know. It's obviously very young impressionable anime fans, right? Who are just hoping for this society, right? - I wonder if some parts of it, we're just completely like oblivious about like, we take for granted some of them. 'Cause we, I mean, we work with Japanese companies. We know how these things are. You can't go around saying you're in talks

That is like the biggest no-no in business. And especially here, I feel like it's never a done deal until it's done deal in Japan. - Did you read their FAQ? - What was it? What did they say? Oh, okay. I read some of it. Do you remember the thing about licensing or something? - Yeah, I remember like one of the FAQs, one of the questions was, "Isn't anime licensing really expensive?" - Yes. - And they legit went, "Actually,

Anime licensing isn't as expensive as everyone makes it out to be. The only reason nobody does it and nobody talks about it is because of NDAs. But we are in talks with real Japanese anime licenses. And that was pretty much the answer to the question, can they get anime licenses? They literally just shot themselves in the foot.

- They didn't have to answer that question. - You can't say you're talking to these companies. It's all very secretive, you know, intentionally so. - All these companies are like,

- Do you know this guy? - Yeah, 'cause there was a guy, there was a, so they also, I think the person, I'm not sure if it was the CEO, someone representing Right Stuff Anime. - Yeah, yeah. - Which is the American company, I think, which buys the licenses for, again, I'm not sure. Either way, they buy licenses or they sell DVDs of anime. They reached out being like, "So apparently you've listed some of our titles "and you say that we're in talks." And the guy tweeted at him saying that, "We've never been in talks."

And then they replied saying, we sent you a message on LinkedIn. That was their, we're in talks. I'm in fucking talks with all the people that email me about weird shit then, aren't I?

- Fuck. - It's just like, bro, bro, I DM'd you. Why didn't you DM back? - I sent you my LinkedIn DM, please respond. - We're in talks now, right? Hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake because of my LinkedIn DM. - I sent you a DM, please give me the anime license. - Please give me the IP. That's how anime licensing works, right? - I'm in talk with all my favorite succubuses from all the hentai. I've sent them a message. They haven't responded yet, but we're in talks. We're working on an arrangement.

- It's just insanity. - We're part of this one sided conversation. - It was just, it was just, I mean, it's all burned down in flames luckily, but yeah. It was just, oh my God, it was such a fucking mess. - It was just so bizarre to see and you know, we knew it was gonna like come down in flames. - 100%. - Yeah, I mean, I think right now it's like been taken off Kickstarter, right? - As far as I know. - I hope so, yeah.

- It's still there? - It's still there. - But the funding is stopped. - Oh, okay. - So no one's given them any more funding. - That's good, that's good. - Okay, it does say suspended. - Okay, so yeah, it is. - So Kickstarter suspended the page. - $111,000. - Yeah. I don't know how true this is, but I did see a screenshot on my, pop up on my timeline the other day though, that shows that they haven't given up. They've started like a newsletter, which you can subscribe to for a dollar.

- So for a dollar for this newsletter, you can subscribe for updates. - People are just taking your money. - Updates of what? Talks in the anime industry? - I don't know. I legit don't know. - On this week's newsletter, we're in talks with ADV.

- Trying to get the ride. - It's just absolutely tragic. It's obvious that, I'm not being funny, but there's a reason why Netflix doesn't have its own Discord server as well. They had their own Discord server and they started banning people. And it's like, what is this? This is fucking Yandere devs game. What is this? This is like, what's going on here? It's so obvious that they're just, 'cause they've done this like two times before as well.

and they failed twice. - Oh yeah, I saw they've made other Kickstarters. - So they're trying to make this Kickstarter. This is their third attempt at doing it. And I think another app similar to it popped up on the Microsoft store and was taken down before as well. So they have a history of doing this and failing and whatever. But clearly, every time it comes around, it seems to get some money. So I guess why not? - I got some real balls to do it like three or four times. - No shame, man. If you get money.

I'm sorry if you fucking gave money to that Kickstarter. - Yeah, I mean like, I would say like, I like the idea of it. - No whole intentions, you know.

but intentions aside, I like the idea of it. - Everybody wishes for it. - I mean, everybody wishes for it. 'Cause I feel like, you know, in the era we're in now, I think like we're past the golden age of streaming because we're past the point in time where you could get every show that you've physically, feasibly watched on one platform. And it's unfortunate that that's the case.

but it's kind of evolved into like a similar era to what the cable era was like. But I mean, when corporations started to realize that there was money in streaming, this was going to be the way that things were gonna evolve, unfortunately. - Of course. - Because unfortunately money talks, you know? And if there could be a platform where every anime you ever watch was on a single platform, I'm sure someone would have done that already.

I'm sure someone with a lot of money would have done that already. - Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but anime is a business. - Streaming is one of those businesses where it's nigh on impossible to get into it unless you've got like massive investors. - Yeah, maybe like 10, 15 years ago. That's good.

you know, if you at the start of the streaming age, like when Crunchyroll first started, but like that time's past now. You can't just be like the little guy taking on the big guy anymore. - Well, yeah, it was like Quibi as well. I'd like what, like $6 billion?

- Oh shit. - Yeah, exactly. You don't even know what Quibi is. - I remember that shit. - It was made, it was founded by the guy who left Disney and founded DreamWorks. I can't remember his name. And made Quibi a streaming service. And it was an absolute dumpster fire. But it had like billions of dollar in investments. - Yeah, but it disappeared after like two weeks, right? Or something. - Well, it was like, you got a free trial then you had to pay. And it literally just tanked.

like immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they paid for so many original shows as well. Who was on there?

- I don't fucking know. I didn't go on Quibi. I didn't use it. - Did anyone use Quibi? - I didn't even know about this. - Oh yeah, how did you know about this? - It was a couple of years ago, I think. - Was it a couple of years ago? It was like two years ago, I think. No, it was like a year ago. - Was it? - I think I might have. - It's recent memory. - I don't even count last year. Last year, frankly, just flew by. I can't remember anything. - Did that happen in 2019? It was a year ago. - Yeah. - I'm still 22 as far as I'm concerned.

- 2020 was just like fucking King Crimson existed in 2020 and just like fucking erased the entire year and we just skipped it. - Literally felt like last month was like April 2020. This is really weird. - Yeah, I mean, we're already halfway through 2021, which is terrifying. - Didn't Mixer die as well? - Yeah, Mixer died. - Oh yeah.

- Man, fuck, I wish I got offered to move to Mixer. I would've gotten nice cash out. - And Ninja's just like set for life and he's the only reason anyone knows about Mixer, I think. But like, yeah, I mean like even with those failed platforms, they had like millions and billions of dollars invested into them by angel investors. - Yeah, they definitely weren't started by a fucking Kickstarter. - Yeah, yeah, and unfortunately,

- Even if you have like, what would be like the most successful Kickstarter of all time? - I don't know. - That's very telling that we can't think of one. I'm sure there is some good ones out there. I've never been interested. - Yeah, to get into- - Any good Kickstarter, you could just buy the thing when it fucking comes out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause I'm just thinking with the money that Kickstarter can be, people can invest into Kickstarter, even like the most,

successful Kickstarter of all time would probably have trouble getting into the streaming field. - The only one I remember was those like sunglasses that had the built-in headphones into it.

- What? - That was successful? - There was a Kickstarter. I remember it because it was like during my uni days, but there was this pair of sunglasses where on the brim here, it was like this new technology and audio where it would vibrate and the vibrations would travel through your ears and the music would come into your ears. And I remember it was a successful Kickstarter. It was like millions of dollars.

- That's not successful. - Yeah, but- - Wait, is that the most successful Kickstarter of all time? - The OUYA? - The OUYA? - The OUYA is the most success- Are you kidding me, Naby? - Number eight. - Oh, number eight. The OUYA is the number- - Wait, how much money did the OUYA raise? - 8,596,000. - Yeah, but you gotta bear in mind, right? Even if someone raised- - The success was actually Pebble with 20 million. - Pebble? - The smartwatch. - Oh. - You gotta bear in mind, even if- - Yeah, Pebble, yeah. 10 million.

- Even if somebody raised 200, $300 million, that doesn't mean shit for streaming. You can't buy much with that. - No, that's what I'm trying to say. Like even with the most successful Kickstarters of all time, to get into this field, you need external investors. If they really wanna challenge the big guys, you know, 'cause there's a lot of money in there right now. - Most of us are broke.

You could gather all the anime fans in the wall and it probably won't even be enough. I don't understand how people can invest in Kickstarter after like it's just track record is just appalling. Have you ever donated to a Kickstarter? No. Why? You save like $20 and you got to put a hundred in for some shit and it's like, I'll just wait till it comes out. I've done it.

- I've done a few, but not like the stupid amounts of money that some people, like every time I look at a Kickstarter and I see like the top tiers, which are like a thousand, $10,000. And you see like one left, two left. I'm like, who are these people that are just dropping $10,000 on this? - For stuff that genuinely needs the money, I would be more inclined, like a game or something that I like I'm into, I would, but I haven't though. But most of the time, the stuff that gets the most is just like fucking pre-orders essentially.

You're just, the product's made, they know what they're doing and you're just pre-ordering. - Yeah, I mean with Kickstarter, I feel like if it's a small indie project or something that you can see feasibly getting funded on Kickstarter, yeah, I would support it. I mean, I think the last Kickstarter I supported was actually the

to trigger anime. I think they funded the second OVA of like Little Witch Academia. - Yeah, I supported that. - That makes sense to me. That seems like this is why Kickstarter should exist. - Yeah, yeah. But like if you're coming in trying to change, like stir up an entire industry or whatever, Kickstarter is just not gonna do it anymore. I think Kickstarter is really good for a small indie team to do some kind of project.

on like a fucking industry changing project, you need something else. - Usually key starters is for like, you know, like kind of at it stops at an artistic level, right? It's not really the thing that you go into to be like,

I'm gonna cause a scene in the industry. - Fucking everything on Kickstarter is the same shit. It's like, all right, get the stock image of people running. Play the music, Mudan. - The ukulele one? - That one, or like there's always some like motivational thing and then it's just like, have you ever had this problem that isn't a problem? Well, now we can solve it. And then it looks amazing. And then you think about it, you're like, it's all shit.

- It's always the same type of people that he kickstarted to, isn't it? It's always like the way too overly enthusiastic, like, "Hi, my name is Kyle." - It'll either be someone from California or someone from Eastern Europe.

Like with a really thick accent explaining why his fridge is the best fridge. And it's like, okay, that's cool. That's fine. I just don't want it. - With our last project, The Walking Fridge, we raised $200,000. That's insane. - I just realized that Kickstarters are basically the modern infomercials. - Yeah. - Pretty much. - Yeah, pretty much. I just don't believe any single advertisement

where someone gives it to a random person and they're like, "Whoa, it's amazing." I just don't believe that. Even if it actually happens, I just don't wanna see that. - I don't even believe it when there's a thing which says like, "Not a paid actor." - Yeah. - You sure about that? - Did you say, going back to AnimeTube, did you see the fucking testimonials they had on the Kickstarter stage? - What were the testimonials? - I think they just got some random people they found on Discord to give them testimonials off their app or something like that. - It's good.

- What would the testimonial be? - Let me see if I can bring it up right now. But yeah, I mean, it's all the same, right? It's literally, yeah. - It's just like, you know, I frankly don't really do, I don't trust anyone who shows me their reviews. Just let me see your reviews. I'll have a look. - It is routinely maintained. It's comfortable. It's quite logical and ergonomic. It's way beyond any competition. I like it.

- Of course it's beyond the fucking competition when you can just take the licenses, like rip them off a DVD. - The best app for on hand anime I use to spend days looking up series, but now I just use this app with ease. Thank you, Robert. - Thank you, Stefan, Robert and James. - With the most rudimentary anime profile pictures I've ever seen.

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a third party's website. You know what I mean? - Even some third party websites, right? - Like even Amazon, they're all fucked, right? And especially if it's on your website, bro, I don't trust your review. Five stars, no way. It's on your website. - I just don't trust Amazon reviews in general. Like especially in Japan. - I mean, we've talked about this before, right? But I mean, that's why they have like the certified seller thing, certified buyer.

- So you bought it, which makes more sense. - We need more people like Meilyne. - We need them with the hard opinions. - Meilyne, the top 5% Google reviewer. - I just feel like I'm a shit reviewer 'cause I don't really give a shit as long as it does the thing. I don't care. - Have you ever written a review for like an Amazon thing or anything? - Yeah, I'm always five or one star. I'm that guy. I'm that kind of guy. 'Cause to me it either works or it doesn't. And like, if it looks fine, fine. That's it, I don't give a shit.

if it does the thing I paid for it to do. - Five stars. - That's great. - You're not those assholes who are like two out of 10, the box was bruised or whatever. - People like rate furniture and they're like, it was complicated to build.

two stars and I'm like, but that's surely that's just like- - That's on you bro. - Yeah, I feel like that's a interpretation thing. Like is the thing good? At the end of the day, you're only gonna build it for like one hour or two hours or three. - There are some times when I'm just like how, like I'm pretty sure you need a PhD to translate this instruction manual that they gave. - Every Ikea furniture. - There's just like one. - I know what you mean, but at the same time, like my, okay, I have a coffee table right now

It was so over-engineered and the amount of screws and shit for it was totally stupid. That was three hours out of like the two years I've been using it. I don't give a shit about those three hours looking back now.

That's why I write the review like three months after I get it. Cause then I'm like, oh yeah, it's good. - It's still standing. - That's why I wait. If it breaks after like one month, all right, fine. That's one star. I shouldn't have broken one month before I use it. But like, these people who write it and they're like, the cardboard box was slightly damaged. You know, the furniture took a little longer than I'd like to it. Like fuck off. - The delivery man had a bad attitude. Like, it's got nothing to do with anything. - And then as well, even if it breaks, I'm like, all right, how long reasonably did I expect it to last? Like my bed's broken.

- But it's two years, is that? - And you also spent like what, a hundred bucks on it? - It was, oh, it was 300 bucks for the mattress and the bed. - Which is very cheap for a bed of your size, I feel. - Considering how much we've spent like on Amazon to get like our first furniture, I think the furniture I have right now has lasted very well. - Well, my bed is like, this design of this bed is, when I was building it, I'm like, huh, this doesn't seem super structurally stable. I understand why it was three stars now.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well basically, you know that meme with the Cheeto in the door, holding the door closed? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's like a tiny plank, like a piece of plywood that basically is like holding up the middle of the bed and like all the way on it. - That doesn't sound safe. - No. - Well, if you stood on that and jumped on it, it would just crack, right? - Well, one time I think I like just like,

'cause I don't know, I wouldn't say I get into bed aggressively, but I'm not polite about it. - You're not gonna be like- - I'm not like sneaking into my bed. I just kind of like, you know, just fall on. - Lady bed and just like fucking does a clothesline on the bed or something like that. - Boom, WWE Spectre Arena. - No, so I just like popped on my bed and I just heard the boom. And then I like looked under my bed and this thing had just like fucking went to the side.

And I was like, oh, that's all right. - It's not even screwed in. - No, no, it's literally just like put in with the weight. It's just a plank of like, literally like if this is the bed, make sure I don't trip the, like, it's just like this. You just gotta like center this piece of wood. - Engineering 101. - It's literally like this size as well. - Oh my God. - And so when I looked and it was like this, and then I was just like, oh, it's all right.

So I do that every time it does it now. - I mean, that works, right? - It's probably time for a new bed, man. - Yeah, probably time for a new bed. I mean, you're moving soon. - Yeah, I'm gonna get rid of it. - Upgrade your breads, which- - Bread? My breads? - Upgrading my bread from white to rye. - Yeah, I'll definitely get rid of it. - 'Cause you can feel the springs on it and everything right now, can't you? - I kinda like feeling the springs, though.

- Why? - Really? - It's got a nice feel to it, you know? - I know. - Does that make, does no one else, someone else is like this. I like feeling a little bit of the spring. - It sounds like peasant talks. - You're looking around the room, not a single person is like, mm-hmm. - Sounds like peasant talk to me. - Okay, I'm, shut up, I'm not peasant. How dare you? - No king wants to feel the springs on the bread corner. Stop saying bread. - What is your obsession with bread? - Yes, I don't want springs in my fucking bread, Garnt. That would be really awkward when I'm trying to cut it.

- The knife keeps bouncing back. - It's just slinky in my brain. Well, when I go to a hotel, I have their amazing, you know, fucking whatever the little hippo is, the brand, I don't know what it is, Sleep Easy. - The anti-gravity mattress or whatever the fuck it's called. - The hippo, it's like Sleep Easy, the brand, and I think it's a hippo in the UK. - Is that the brand?

Anyway, it's like some deluxe divine 10,000 sheet. I'm like, oh, it's pretty good. This it's great that but also those beds are ridiculous. And like, I don't think they're that much better than a shitty bed.

- I don't know about that one, chief. - You know a shit mattress when you're on it. - Yeah. - I had a memory foam one at my parents' house. - I don't like memory foam ones. Those ones I don't like. - Really? - Yeah. - I love those. - Well, yeah, it's 'cause you gotta break it in. After like a year, it's amazing. - It's like putty. You just gotta kind of sink yourself

- It takes like months for it to like actually get the right shape, but then it's amazing. - I want to like feel some bounce in it. With the memory foam one, it feels like I'm sleeping in quicksand where you just sink in and you're just like, oh. - Yeah, that's the thing though. Like the comfort envelops you. - But I feel like, but the thing is, you know, I mean, I feel like that's like admitting you're just single if you get a memory foam one, 'cause it's like, it's not an exciting bed, you know? - What do you mean?

- Do I need to explain? - Yeah, please. - There's no bounce. - I gotcha. - It's just depressing. It's like fucking on a beanbag, you know? - I don't use memory foam beds, so I- - There you go then, you know what I mean? - I like the bounce. I mean, I like the bounce normally when I'm sleeping, you know? - Are you fucking sleeping like this? - You can like rebound them.

- I need some balance when I'm fighting my sleep paralysis demon. It's like, "Get off!" - Do I really need to explain this? Come on. - I get it, I get it. - Sometimes, you know. - Sometimes you just wanna play a bit of basketball, right? - Sometimes. - Just wanna dribble some balls. - Yeah, sometimes you need to like dribble, you know what I mean? Can you catch my drift, guys? Use your imagination. - No, but like spring breads are like awful for that. They are not good for that. - No, you can use the springs. - Stop saying bread.

- I said bat there, didn't I? - You literally said string bread. - I have to kiss you, man. - Does Garnt go to the bakery and ask for a mattress? - Give me a finest bed, please. - Oh my God, what is this fucking- - Have you ever slept on a water bed before?

- I imagine that must be fun. - That's really fun. It's like literally- - Is that actually fun? Is it comfortable? - It's really, okay. I find it to be super fucking comfortable, but that's because again, it's like, it's, but I find memory foam to be really comfortable. So it's kind of like that because like the mattress kind of follows you.

as you're moving around. - But then like, if you're like in a- - It's like you become the mattress. - If you get a double memory foam mattress, you guys are like never gonna touch each other. You guys are gonna be like, we have our crevice, it is set. Goodbye. - Yeah, that's what I don't like about memory foam mattresses. You just sink in and there's like- - It's a single bed thing. - There's no movement.

- I'm not seeing enough movement anywhere on a memory foam mattress. You sink in and that's just it. - That's what couples do when they like agree that they're just not having sex anymore. Like that's what, that is true. - It's like, let me just sink into my crotch. - Well, yeah, because you have your, you literally, if a memory foam is like set, it's so uncomfortable to move to a position where it isn't set. - What about memory foam pillows? - Oh yeah, I like the pillows. - Do you like the pillows?

- I like feeling that. I like a little resistance. I like a little bounce on whatever I'm- - You fucking the pillow guy? - I like when the pillow fights back. - I like when the pillow's hard to get. - I think the pillow needs a little bit of firmness. - I like when the pillow's a tsundere. - If you're thinking too much,

- I do like being able to like, you know, if I'm kind of just not happy with the pillow, I can just like. - Punch the shit out of it, yeah. - Yeah, literally. Until you're like, all right, it is refreshed. - Yeah, 'cause sometimes you just gotta fucking tenderize the pillow, right? You fucking gotta get the fucking steak tenderized. You wanna go like, ugh, ugh. All right, now it's perfect.

- I used to use two pillows exclusively, but now for some reason I can't use two. Is that like getting old? Is that an old thing? - No, I've actually gone the opposite. I used to be able to sleep on one pillow, but now I need two. - I can't do two anymore. It has to be one. - Why? - I don't know. Maybe because when I was a child, sorry, my mom probably bought the shittest, thinnest pillows. Maybe that was why. So I was like, yeah, I always sleep with two and I'm like this.

- Yeah, I always sleep with two pillows. - No, I was the opposite. Like I had like the really, really thin pillows, right? And we couldn't afford another pillow. So I was just like- - I think that's why. Yeah, I think that's why I had two. - So I was like, why am I waking up with a headache every morning? Oh, it's because all the blood is rushing to my head. I'm like this.

- Japan has these pillows that you get in like hotels and stuff that I hate. - Which ones? - Like double-sided ones. - Yeah. - But, but- - Double-sided? Aren't all pillows double-sided? - No, no, so like that there's two different types of material on each side. - Oh! - And one of them is literally like solid bean bag.

It's like a bean bag that you have to physically move around. - It's the sand one, right? - Yeah, it's horrible. - I love those ones. - And it's sticking into your neck. No, what? What? - You know when you're sleeping on a futon, the sand pillows that you get on- - I know, I hate those. Give me something soft. - I love those because, again, it gives me that perfect height.

where it makes me sleep so well. - Did you just say sand pillows? - It feels like sand. - It's like a beads sand. - Yeah, it's like- - It's rock solid though. - Yeah, it's like if you packed a bean bag a little with too much beans. - Yeah, I stayed in a hotel one time and I was like, when I left, I was like, "Fuck that, that fucking, that was horrible." And they're like, "Oh, you could've just flipped it." I'm like, "What?"

- I didn't know that. - Most of them are two sided, so the other side will be like a normal pillow. - Oh, I always just like go to the hotel and just touch the sand side. I'm like, I'm satisfied. I'll take that. - Hey, I hate the sand side. - Maybe because I used to sleep with those at my grandma's place. 'Cause that's all she had. - It just makes you feel like I'm in a hospital. I don't know why. - Hospital? But the hospitals have like the super like pillows that kind of go around you like this, right? You sink in, it's like. - I don't know. I've never stayed in a hospital.

- You've never stayed in a hospital? - No. - I've stayed in a hospital once. - I'm trying to remember if I have, I definitely have. It's just, it's not a common occurrence obviously, but. - Maybe I have some time in my childhood. - I was taking a weekly trip to the hospital, just casual. - It's a free hotel in the UK if you get injured. - Have you ever like injured, have you ever like been to the hospital? Like with an injury and stuff like that? Have we ever talked about that? Like you've injured yourself so bad that you had to go to the hospital. Like breaking a bone or anything. - I've never had any bad injuries, I don't think.

- No, you? - I had once, like I have like stitches, like you can still kind of see it right there on my finger. That was the only time, 'cause like I fell when I was like two years old and I landed like kind of like my hands like that and a piece of glass just went straight into there.

So that's a pull it out and give me stitches. But that's about it. - That was a boring, boring. - I was hoping you guys would like burn yourselves. - I was like that time I fucking crashed a car. - I was like, guys broke a bone. - Guys, guys, any injuries? - Are we that boring that we haven't injured ourselves? - No, I have strong bones. I drink my milk, bro. - I've had some pretty bad injuries, but for something I've never had like, never been like, I've always been like walking off, walking off.

- Just your arms falling off. - Yeah, I probably have like broken my toe or something. I'm just not known about it. - That's pretty common. - I feel like it's pretty common. - I've sprained my wrist. I did that. - It's like the most boring injury of all time. - Sprained my wrist, yeah. - Yeah, it was from like, I think I told this story when I failed like a jump skiing, snowboarding, right? And that was fucking horrible. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - I thought I was gonna die, but I was like,

I'll snowboard it off, I'll snowboard it off. - I just kept snowboarding when I was winded. - That's how you know we're inside kids when we haven't like broken any bones or anything like that. - Yeah, what are you expecting Joey? We're fucking like- - I don't know man. - We're fucking anime nerds and gamers right here. - I've been very lucky. - Wanking yourself so hard you dislocate your wrist or something, I don't know. - I think about all the injuries I've had and how I've just never had any damage from it. I'm like, that's very lucky. Tipped a quad bike when I was like 10 on myself. - And you didn't go to the hospital? - I wasn't injured at all.

- Jesus. - Tipped a quad bike on yourself. - Yeah. - How'd you do that? - I tipped a quad bike. So my, 'cause you know, my mate owned a farm and I loved getting his house 'cause it was just basically like a free theme park. - Yeah. - Farms are great when you're 10. 'Cause it's like everything's- - Especially with a quad bike. - And he had a quad bike. - Yeah. - And his dad didn't give a shit. He was just like, "You can just go on the quad bike." - Right. - So he just let us go on the quad bike. And I was like one of those like fucking danger addicts when I was like a 10 year old. I just wanted to like do dangerous things. - Yeah. - And so,

My friend, he was used to going on the quad bike and he was just like, yeah, it's all right. Just don't go too fast. And I was like, all right. Immediately went too fast. I'm like, I try, I was just turning really, really fast. And when I was going so fast, the bike just went like, oh, it just flipped over. Did like a barrel roll. But I, so it like tipped, but I think I was small enough where like, I don't, I don't know how it happened, but it tipped. I didn't get hurt at all. And I just got up and the bar was a little fucked on the thing, but we like hit it into place and it was good. And then I went back on it.

- You went back on it? - Yeah. - I would not fucking go back on it, I flipped. - I was like, yeah dude, it was so fun, let's do it again. - Almost died, let's do it again. - Yeah, I've had many like- - Have you guys had any near death experiences before?

- I've told the story about how I'd like got launched with a bounce castle, right? - Yes. - Oh yeah. - That was probably level one as well. - Yeah. - 'Cause I remember telling you this like a few days ago, but I think the nearest death experience I had was like the most, probably the most lamest story I could tell. - Yeah. - But it was during a snowball fight, right?

- So in university, in England, we don't get a lot of snow. We get like snow once or twice a year. And so anytime it snows, everyone takes the opportunity to play around in the snow. And in university, what that means is we just go out and have a bunch of snowball fights, right? So it was like,

one dorm versus another dorm. And we were like having a snowball fight in the middle of this like residential area in Bristol, right? So it wasn't like in the middle of a field or something. It was literally like on the roads and the pavements. And I remember we were just throwing snowballs and one fucker, right? You know, you have like the snowballs and some, the common courtesy is you make the powder snowballs. - Yes, of course, of course. - One fucker decided to make an ice ball

You know what I mean? The ones where it's like melted ice and you fucking pack it in. - On the side of the road. - Yeah, on the side of the road where you just like- - They used to put a stone in it. People used to do that in my school. - Seriously? - I had that as well. - I feel like ice balls are like even worse because you get the hardness of the ice and the coldness as well, which is like numbing as well. - It's basically just getting a cold rock. - Yeah, yeah. So I was standing right by the side of the road and

I see the snowball coming and I'm just like, it's a snowball, whatever. Hits my fucking balls. And then I realized number one, that is perfect aim because it literally hit my balls. Number two, that is not a snowball I just felt. That is a solid ice ball that just came full force right to my fucking balls. - I have a really similar story, but he said total opposite. It was at the beach. - Right.

And my dad and I were at the beach. I think I was like maybe 11, 12 years old. And my dad and I were kicking like the rugby ball around. And like one thing I really liked was trying to catch like the ball that gets kicked really high up and then you kind of get under it. So we were doing that a couple of times. I was practicing that. And one time my dad just kicks it really fucking high up. And I was like, all right, I got it. Sun's in my eyes, but I got it. I think I got this. And it,

comes down, it misses my arm and it just perfectly flicks my knob. Oh, I see.

It just flicks it. - That's worse. - It didn't even like land on my balls. It just flicked it. Like it just went, "Pah!" Like that on my knob and I just collapsed. - Yeah. - 'Cause like if you're not a guy, if you're not a male, it's really hard to describe the pain you feel when your knob gets flicked or some, or like you feel an impact on it, right? - It's not your dick or balls that hurts. It's like above it.

- It's just the entire area. - It's the flick. The flick hurts the most for some reason. - And so obviously this happened to me and I was in total agony, right? 'Cause your mind just goes blank. So I start like walking forwards and I didn't realize I was walking right into the middle of a road. - Right. - Jesus Christ. - Because I was just like, oh shit.

And then the last thing I remember is my mate go, "God, what the fuck?" And he grabs my bag and pulls me back, right? He full on pulls me back. And then I just see this fucking bus just going, like right in front of me. And yeah, that was the closest I've come to dying, I think. - Imagine dying while grabbing your balls. - I think you actually just missed out on your own isekai story. - Yeah, right?

- That was your chance, that was your one chance. - Yeah, that was literally like an "Isekai Origin" story. Yeah, I got snow, I got an ice ball in my balls. - Now I wanna watch an "Isekai" story that literally starts out like that, where the protagonist gets smashed in the balls and then gets transported to another world. - Jesus Christ, that's scary. I don't know if I've had any near-death experiences. I had a really stupid accident one time

We owned like one of those big trampolines, like the big ones. There's like two sizes, right? The small and then there's a big one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Had one of those. And I loved doing like front flips, back flips, all the works on it. You name it, I jumped it. - I jumped it, I flipped it. - Yeah, yeah. And one time I was like, I'm just gonna do it on my knees. Like I was practicing like doing tricks on my knees. And one time I just like did something, landed on my knees and instead of like me jumping back, my back just went like .

while I was still on my knees. - So my back just- - Oh Jesus. - Like that. And I was like, I've never had this pain in my life. I wanted to throw up immediately and I couldn't move. - Probably just winded yourself, right? - I don't know what I did, but it was fucking horrible. Scared the shit out of me. I was so winded and it was horrible. It was so horrible. - Oh God. - I was like 12 and I was like, "What's happening? Why do I wanna throw up?" And then, oh God, oh Jesus. - That must have been scary for people watching you where you literally- - No, no one was there. - Your back just goes . - No one was there. It was just me. - Damn, man.

- Where was this trampoline? - It was my house. - Oh, you had a trampoline at your house? - Yeah. - Your parents are like, "He's probably having fun on the trampoline." - Having a trampoline in your house is great when your friends came over, 'cause you can just fucking fight on it. - Yeah, we didn't have a backyard big enough for a trampoline. - Yeah, I didn't have that much space. - Our backyard's pretty big.

- Well, you're a country boy, aren't you? - Well, it's Wales, so. - You have all the land in the world, don't you? - Most people have a pretty decent sized backyard. It was really good though. I mean, yeah, it's great. We used to fight on it and stuff.

- As you do. - So in other news, Japan is back on lockdown. - No way. - You know what? We had a pleasant two weeks. - Yeah, we had two weeks out of lockdown. - Out of lockdown. - What blows my mind is that they canceled spectators like now for the Olympics. It's starting this month, right? - Yeah, like in a couple of weeks. - Yeah. - What the fuck? - Actually, by the time this is up,

- It's probably already started. - It's insane to me that they canceled it this, like the spectators this late when, you know- - But the athletes are still allowed to come in, right? - I mean, I get that, but like as if they didn't know how bad the situation was, it's like, whoa shit, it didn't get better suddenly? What the fuck? You know what I mean? To me it's insane that, you know, it's also just irresponsible as well 'cause it's probably people who booked

'Cause even in Japan, right? You can come from Hokkaido, whatever the fuck you are. You can come and watch. Poor people probably booked time off work maybe, probably booked some hotels. - Yeah, they use their limited like pay leave, right? - It's like the Cyberpunk release, but just like on a scale 10 times that, you know?

If somebody booked time off work in Japan, they ain't playing around. That doesn't happen. - Like the Japanese government just puts out a tweet, which is just like the fucking Twitter. - The yellow thing. - We have delayed the Olympics. - We have canceled spectators. We apologize.

I mean it's just yeah unfortunately you're not we're gonna have to wait even longer for the new figure episode because uh we're still under a new lockdown and it just feels like this entire year has just been a lockdown but not really for us it feels like now that the rest of the world is kind of getting back to normal it's really weird seeing timelines where people are having parties and going out without masks and stuff and I'm just here like yeah this is just this is just

- This is life, yeah. - This is just life now for us, right? - It's weird 'cause it's like, I know we've talked about this a lot before, but it's 'cause it's such an ongoing thing and it changes throughout the time. It's like, "All right, restaurant's open. All right, okay, cool. But now they're closed at eight. All right, okay. But now they can still have alcohol. Okay, but now they can't." It's like, wait,

What's going on? The fuck is going on? It's just, I'm so confused. - The limit is three. No, the limit is six. The limit is four. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's like, all right. And then Google maps is completely unreliable now because now not all the opening and closing times are fucking live. - Yeah. - Because it's totally dependent on the place and whether they're doing it. And most of the time they're not the ones updating their Google page. So you don't even know if shit's open or not. - The only thing that has stayed consistent throughout this entire thing is

- That's literally the only thing that stayed consistent. - Pretty much. I mean, you wanna go to a new place now, you check out on Google maps, oh, they're open. You turn up at the door and they're not open. And then you try to find another place. And it's just kind of like playing a roulette wheel of just seeing what you can do. 'Cause lockdown has been really weird 'cause we say lockdown, but it's just like,

you can still go out and work. You just can't really do anything else but that. I mean, the trains are still fucking packed as shit. - Oh yeah, if you get an eight o'clock train still, you're fucked.

You still get squeezed in. There will be people pushing you in still during all of this. And that's why a lot of the experts say it's so worrying in Tokyo because the density is insane. You can't just social distance anywhere in this fucking town.

- And yeah, did you see that thing with the Tokyo hotel or something where it was like the foreigners have to get a different elevator from the Japanese people? - Yeah, I saw that. - Classic Japanese xenophobia. - I heard that it was a misunderstanding. I don't know if this is true. - That's what they all- - So I heard this was a misunderstanding of, especially for people who came from a foreign country.

- Right, even though realistically right now you're probably safer if you've come from a foreign country. - Yeah, I think that was a lot of the, even though like some people were trying to defend it being like, no, no, they meant people who just came in from like America or whatever, you know? And, but a lot of people arguing, so like, yeah, well, Japan has not handled this very well. I don't think they're in the place to be able to, you know. - I don't even think, what is this? Like less than 10% of the population's

got the vaccine, right? - It's probably higher now when the times comes out. - But I mean, still it's like, it's nowhere near where it should be considering the Olympics is from this side. - To me it just seems like why not just socially distance in general in the elevator? Why not just let two people go in at a time on the opposite end? Why have to make it like the distinction?

It just, yeah, I don't know. - I mean, they could be, that's too logical. - Japan is just a little, you know the thing that sucks about Japan is that they're just a little too quick on the decision to make it harsh on foreigners. They're a little too comfortable with making those rules. - They're always, it's like- - They're like a little too like- - It's like, is something wrong? It's the foreigners. - They're just a little, it's just the speed at which they'll be like, "Ooh, maybe we should just, maybe just discriminate a little bit."

- I'm feeling a little discriminatory today. - It's like the image of that guy falls off the bicycle and it's like, oh, it's the foreigners. - You know, at the one time, you know, people do try and justify it and all that, but it's just the ease at which sometimes Japan does it, which bothers me the most. Like we had that thing from the, I think we do talk about the podcast, the Ibaraki prefecture.

- I don't think we have talked about that. - Ibaraki prefecture gave a warning out for people not to interact with foreigners. - That's right, yeah, I remember that. - That was one of their warnings. Don't interact with any foreigners. I think, again, some people defended it being like, well, they're only people from a foreign country, but there's no way for Japanese people to be able to distinguish between foreign and a foreign person who came from a foreign country recently. It was very obvious what they were trying to say,

just stay away from foreigners. Yeah. You know, which...

- It's a massive yikes. - If this happened in literally any other country, they'd just be called out for it, right? By everyone. - I mean, luckily though, in a sense, like at least what I've seen on social media, they have been called out. That's why they're so quick to retract and being like, "Oh no, it was a misunderstanding, guys." - It was retracted very fast. And I mean, you can imagine why. It's supposed to be very... The hotel is...

- It's like quite a, what's it? Notable hotel. - It's a big franchise. - It's generally an expensive chain. - Yeah. - Oh, was it an expensive chain? - Yeah, the Tokyo hotel is a very like- - Yeah, it's up there. - Oh, I thought it was just like this really- - It's a premium hotel. And you know, normally for rich tourists. - It's like if the Hilton was like no Asians. It's that level. - It's, you know, so.

It's just sad, very sad. - Yeah. - I forgot what I was gonna say something. I had a really good point, but I fucking forgot. I'm done. - Must've been a good point. - It was such a riveting point, but oh well, lost the time. - Yeah, oh well. - I mean, it's just like, it's, you know, obviously we're grateful to be here, but it's just, it's weird that,

- It's not exactly that we feel discriminated against, obviously. It's just sometimes there's just like a lot of little things that we see and we feel. And obviously hearing news like this, it kind of like adds to that little by little. - Yeah, I mean, when I speak to someone my age, I've never ever felt that in Japan at all. I just feel that the government, like almost in every country, is just older people kind of out of touch. - Yeah, I feel that's especially prevalent in Japan because again, the older population is the majority.

Yeah, the difference is that

- That's totally fine because that's what the voters want. - Exactly. - Literally all the voters are old. - Wasn't it like one of the people on the Olympic committee, like just saying that women- - Women shouldn't talk. - Women shouldn't talk and just stay in the kitchen or something like that. - It was something along the lines of women shouldn't be allowed to talk at meetings 'cause they talk too long. - Oh, that was it. - At the Olympic meetings. - And I'm like, that's what dudes in the 50s used to say to their wives. - But that was the ex prime minister of Japan.

- Was it? - He was the prime minister of Japan as far as I'm aware. Can you Google it to confirm that? But as far as I know, it's the ex prime minister of Japan, which is just very telling. I'm not saying the UK is much better. We're fucking awful with that shit. But again, they're very quick to get called out by it. But then people calling out the Japanese government for a lot of this stuff, a lot of the time it is the younger people who are doing it. - The social media generation. - Yeah, it was the ex prime minister of Japan.

- Mori Yoshiro, yeah. - Yeah, but he's also like what? 91 years old or something? And he's the fucking like Olympic- - I'm not being funny, but no one 91 years old should be making country-wide decisions. I think at that point you were just so far out of touch with the country. - Absolutely. - You can't. - I mean, it's just like at that point you don't really, I mean, you're 91, right? Why would you care to change for society? Because you know,

At that point, you already know who you are. You're not going to put in the effort to change. Exactly. And it's just...

- Yeah, at that point, you probably shouldn't be running a country. - I mean, what, Joe Biden, like 70 something? But then like Bernie makes me always think like, damn, okay, maybe old people, maybe they know what's up. - Oh yeah, 'cause they forgot. - I guess that says I'll put in my political shit. - I thought you were too political on the show. - This is probably the most political we've ever gotten on this show. - What, just naming politicians? - He said the name!

- Yeah, I don't know. - It's one of those things where it's like, I don't know, it's just, yeah, they're a little too comfortable with dishing that shit out. - Then like whenever I hear stories like that, there's a part of me that hears that kind of stuff happening and just makes me wish that young people in Japan were a little more politically interested. - Yeah, they pretty much have no interest. Or even if they do, they don't talk about it publicly. - No one talks about it publicly. Barely anyone has any interest. No one believes in the government here. They're just like, yeah, whatever. They're just doing their thing.

As long as we're not in a war with another country, we're good. - Yeah, the consensus seems to be from what I've speak to people is that they're like, "Oh, I don't care as long as they don't like ruin my life." - There's a lot of young people who don't even know who the prime minister is. - Yeah. - Wow. - Yeah, it just goes to show like they're that out of touch. - But in Japan, you don't get to choose

- No. - You choose the party and then they choose the prime minister. Whereas, you know, I think that's technically the same in the UK, but it's not done like that at all. We're promised who the person is when we're voting and that's how it is in Japan. You vote for the party and you don't get to say who they pick. - But again, it's like, I've talked to young people, you know, some same age, a little bit older, a little bit younger. And there's a lot of them who don't even know what the political parties are or what they do. They're just not interested in it whatsoever. And it's like,

- I kind of get the vibe that everyone is just like so overworked that they don't have time to care. - It's the last thing they wanna worry about. - That's pretty much the vibe I get is like everyone's just fucking fighting for their life here as it is. Everyone's just trying to get through the day. They don't have time to care about other issues a lot of the time.

- Yeah, I remember when they like raised the GST from 8% to 10% and there was like all these like mobs. - I saw that. - All these mobs of all these old people. - Yeah, I saw that. - How fucking dare you? Meanwhile, the young people are like, "Understandable, have a nice day. I'll just work harder." It's like, they just don't care. It's just like, "Oh, they made a new law? Sick, I guess I'm just gonna have to mold my life around this new law now." - Speaking of dumb Japanese laws, you can be arrested in Japan if you are,

like save files. - Yeah, that sounds about right. Can you actually? - Yeah, so a guy in- - The Skyrim community are sweating right now. - A guy in Nagano, I think, Nagano was arrested and fined 65,000 pounds, about 100K dollars for selling Breath of the Wild save files that were modded.

- Seriously? - Yeah, no joke. And apparently like I've read about it. Apparently one of the main reasons why this law was passed was because guess which company pushed for it? - Nintendo? - Yeah. - Of course they did.

But obviously they tried, obviously that shit just, America's like, "Lamao, no." They're not passing that law in America. - Yeah, of course. - 'Cause you have the right to do whatever you want with the products you buy. - Yeah, yeah. - But yeah, Nintendo somehow managed to push for a law. - To be fair, I think the selling part was the problem, right? If you just put it on the line- - But it's also illegal to even mod a Switch in Japan. - Oh yeah, yeah, of course. - You can't mod a Switch in Japan. - But I think it was extra bad for the dude because he sold it for money. - Isn't it technically illegal everywhere to mod a Switch?

- No, no, no. So in the US it's counted as you bought a product and you're allowed to do whatever you want with that product. You can do whatever you want. - So what's the illegal part then? Buying the games, getting the games? - Apparently,

- So I think the way they've managed to pass the law is that like, it's still like an ongoing thing, like a service. You don't actually own the game. You own a copy of the game and by changing it, you're like ruining or infringing on what they have. - If you buy a Nintendo product, Nintendo owns you. - It's insane to me. - There is no escape. - You know, like it's a,

- Didn't Apple try, I don't know if it's illegal in, again, can you check it if it's illegal to jailbreak your phone? I'm pretty sure it's not illegal. - I think it is illegal. - In every country? - I don't know, is it? Or does it just break warranty? I don't know. - I thought it just broke warranty in the UK. I can't remember though. - It definitely at least breaks warranty.

- Yeah. - I know that. - Everyone knows that. - Generally, that's where the fuck you want with the stuff you own. - I've never heard of anyone getting arrested for jailbreaking their phone. - To me, just the idea of a fucking raid going on into some guy's house.

"Get down, stop, drop the Legend of Zelda copies, "put them on the floor." - And you know in Japan, the thing is in Japan, right? - Boys rock up with hazmat suits. - When they arrest people in Japan, they don't arrest you with two people. They send like 20 fucking police officers in Japan when they arrest you. - They send the boys down, man. They got the whole squad coming. - Overall, it's breaking your iPhone's warranty. - Yeah, yeah. - In terms of legality, I think it differs between the country, but in terms of like Apple, it's like,

- No, no, yeah. - And they're not gonna fucking sue you for doing it. - Yeah. - So it's just your warranty is gone. - Yeah. - I mean, that's understandable. - Well, most products do that. Like, hey, if you fucking change this thing, we're not gonna fix it for you. - If you break the seal that says breaking the seal breaks the warranty, then generally, you know, that breaks the warranty, right? - Yeah, but then I feel, you know, you also have to understand that Japan is falling a little bit short on most,

like fair use, for example. - Well, yeah, I mean- - Fair use just isn't a thing here as we found out many times. - Just seeing all these videos of like Nintendo fans playing with Nintendo to like change their mind and then like after living here, I'm like, dude, it's- - It's not gonna happen. - That's not how it rolls, bro. It's like us pleading with Nintendo is not gonna fucking do anything unless you're in the- - We should start a Kickstarter.

- To get them to change the laws. - Unless you are fully 100% Japanese and in that boardroom meeting with them, it isn't gonna matter. - Unless you are Shigeru Miyamoto, it's not gonna change. - Yeah, definitely like coming to live here and seeing how it works on the inside. I'm just like, yeah, it's a lot of like, no matter how much noise gets made on Twitter, I think most of the time it's gonna fall on deaf ears. - Yeah, so the way that I've,

at least from living here. You can say anything you want over an email. You can explain everything as well as you want through a different person. But unless there is a Japanese guy there in the room at the board meeting explaining something directly to the person, it will not get nothing. - You can't have a Zoom call. You can't send an email. You can't send an angry tweet. You can fucking ratio the shit out of Nintendo. They'll be like, "I don't give a shit."

You need to have someone there explaining to the person in person speaking fluent Japanese and possibly having a Japanese passport before they take anything seriously. - And even then it's like, oh, so what company

- What company do you work for? Who are your backers? Who are you representing? - I've worked with places where I've wanted to shoot there and I've had a friend tell them who wasn't Japanese, "Hey, can we shoot that?" And they're like, "No, I don't know about it." But then you have a Japanese person do the exact same thing. Like if Kaho hits them up and is like, "Hey, here's what we're doing." And they're like, "Oh, okay, sure." It's like, what?

It's just like, they don't believe you. Like they think you're lying because you're not Japanese. Like you don't understand. You don't understand how I think. - These sneaky foreigners trying to get around our ways. - It's bizarre. It's really strange, but this is the way that it's like business is done here. And it makes so much sense now why these companies do this fucking stupid shit. 'Cause I'm like, oh, I totally get it. - And I'm kind of like sitting in that halfway point

'Cause like, if I don't open my mouth, they'll be like this fucking foreigner trying to like get around me. The moment I open my mouth, they're like, "Oh, you're Nihongo? "Nihongo Jozu?" - Yeah. - All right, let's do it boys. I'm just like- - All right, let's do business. - Yeah. - Right? - Let's do, exactly. I rock up, let's do business. No, you're a foreigner. JK, I am Nihongo Jozu actually. And they're like, "All right, I'm sorry. "All right, let's do some business." I'm like, it's so fucking embarrassing. - Yeah, yeah. And I feel like companies in Japan are very, very, what's the word?

they very much stick to the hierarchy of decisions. And if you're not like the same level, you can't comment. - Are you talking about

- The pyramid? - The pyramid scheme. - The pyramid scheme. - Well, like if you're not in that meeting, your opinion doesn't matter no matter who you take it to, right? So I feel like when people are like, all right, even if like, I don't know, 'cause Nintendo has a Nintendo of America. I'd love to know how much Nintendo of America has a say over what Nintendo of Japan offers. I feel like- - Probably not a lot. - I feel like people would,

- Yeah, I think it's probably not a lot. Just based off like what I've seen from other companies here where you would think that they would have an input, but they don't. - Yeah, Doug Bowser is like, "So can we change this thing?" And they're like, "But we're in a Zoom call." You're not in the office. So I don't know about that. - I don't know. Again, it's all speculation, but I imagine it's,

- From what I've seen here, it's very difficult to get things done if you're not like the same level. - Basically like the longer I live in Japan, the more respect I have for Suzaku and Code Geass. 'Cause you watch Code Geass and everyone wants to be the Lelouch, right? Everyone wants to be the fucking Lelouch, bring down the system, fuck the corporations. But then I'm just like, yo, Suzaku's out there working his fucking ass off to change shit, man.

Like he's the real one. He's the real one. - He's climbing that pyramid boys. - He's climbing the hierarchy man. - If this was IRL, Suzaku would still be a fucking grunt in the middle of town.

- He's like, "Well, what do you mean you're 22? "No promotion for you." - Yeah. - "Do you have work experience? "Then stay the fuck down." - "Oh, you're an honorary Britannian?" "No, no, what the fuck is an honorary Britannian? "You're not one of the point killed by the ones." - He wasn't even like one of them. - Yeah, there's no way he could pass. - No way. - No, no, no. He's a guy who changes the vending machine. Come on. They wouldn't let him. Don had to pee, so we're back.

What have you been up to, Garnt? How was your pee? It was great. It was great. Interesting, Connor. I mean, speaking about the rest of the world healing, it's getting to the point now where I kind of meet lots of people that are planning their journeys home, and that includes us as well. Well, me and Connor, at least. Yeah, you two are. And yeah, you know what?

- You know what I was missing the other day? And I know I must be fucking mental. - What? - I was missing a pub. I'm just like- - What's wrong with that? Pubs are great. - I mean, I've talked about how- - There's no fucking good pubs here. - But I mean, Garnt's talked about how he doesn't like pubs. - I've talked about how pubs are like- - Yeah, but Garnt's a fucking idiot. So like, he's just- He isn't like, crusts or- And Garnt thinks the architecture here is great. You know, I mean, Garnt is a fake British person.

- Maybe. - Yeah, he's Thai. - Yeah, I'm Thai. I'm an honorary Britannian.

- You got it there. - I guess so. - Yeah, got him. - Got caught. - Came full circle. - Yeah, but yeah, I just had this overwhelming like urge to go to a fucking Wetherspoons and I'm just like, what the fuck is wrong with me? - As you should. - Wow. - Every week you should get that urge. - Yeah. - The moment Friday takes over, you're like, fuck, I want the curry club and a pint. It's great. You can get like a curry, a whole curry meal

and a full pint of your alcohol of choice, like 10 bucks. - Damn. - And then Fridays, it's fish and chips Fridays as well. - Oh, you know it is. You know it is. - Now he's speaking my language.

- Yeah, I don't know. Like now that we are in the process of being able to go back to our countries, it's just like, it feels good. And it feels like I get to like kind of look forward to all the things that have made me feel kind of homesick, I think. 'Cause I didn't think I would feel too homesick about England until kind of moved out of it and couldn't go back for a while. - I think this like lockdown or pandemic has definitely proven to people that like, oh, maybe I am homesick.

- Just give me enough time and I'll call you a homesick. - First year I was like, "Oh, it's all right. It's not that bad." I was like, "Well, okay, I can get used to this." And then now I'm just like going insane. Now I'm like, nothing is open. I can't fucking do anything. We can't film any cool videos all the time. Every single thing is like boring as shit.

And then now I can't, I don't know. So we're booking a trip home. I don't even know what the fuck is happening 'cause every country keeps changing its mind on what's happening. So I'm like, wait, do I book the hotel for a lot for like how many days is the lockdown? Like, when will I get rid of it? It's like, are you getting rid of it? Like, can you tell me if you're getting rid of it? I would like to know. So it's really difficult right now. - Isn't the like home quarantine an option though?

- Yeah, in the UK, yeah. - In the UK. - In a hotel. And then Japan might be doing, is doing- - Vaccine passports. - Vaccine passports. - Yeah. - I think that's to return Japan, I think? - Yeah, to return to Japan. - Which apparently you can apply from the 26th, my birthday, woo. - Yeah. - Which is when we get off. - The ultimate birthday present. - Which is when we get a second dose as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So yeah, I don't know what's happening. I guess I'll figure it out. - What's the first thing you're gonna do when you go back to England? - Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask as well.

- I'm going straight to the fucking pub. - Check into the hotel, I guess. - I mean, that's the practical answer. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - But after that, after you've settled down at the hotel room, what's the first thing you wanna go to?

Tesco's? - Tesco's meal deal. - Actually, I want a fucking meal deal. They'll probably have one at the airport. So I'll probably get a meal deal at the airport. Tesco's meal deal, banging. Three pound, fuck dude, choice of my favorite sandwich. - Oh yeah, but if it's the airport, it's probably like seven pound, right? - I guess it's like four. - Yeah. - It's just gonna be so weird going to like a shop or just the Tesco's. - I genuinely miss airports. I miss going to an airport.

- I miss chilling at the airport. - Yeah, I get that. - You get to watch so much shit when you're on a flight. I haven't been able to watch TV in so long 'cause I haven't been on a flight. You know what I mean? You get so much watching done when you're on a plane. I'm chilling in the lobby, having a coffee. When you finally you've checked in, your bags are in the thing, it's actually kind of chill, that hour before your flight. - I like the feeling of going on a long haul flight, just knowing, 'cause it kind of like, aside from like,

the long haul part of the flight. I just like the feeling of knowing it feels like I'm going on a holiday. You know, it feels like I'm going away for a while. And it's, there's something about going to, to the airport of like your home country. It just, it just feels like, it just feels, feels like, you know, mom's cooking or something like that. It just feels, I don't know. It just, there's something about it. Because every time I go visit Thailand and I step out and I see like the, the Thai airport, I'm just like,

I'm getting all nostalgic. It's just the fucking airport. It smells different. Every country smells different. I don't know why it is. - I totally get that. - But like, I literally, I step out of the airport, go to the Thai airport has this certain smell, Gatwick and Heathrow has a certain smell. And I'm just like, I can't describe what it is, but I just,

But it just feels comforting. And I didn't know that airports smell different until you go off the airplane and you're like, "Damn, I recognize this." - I recognize this. - I don't know if this is the talk of a madman right now. - No, no, I get that whole smell thing, yeah. - Yeah, I don't. - It's like when certain smells trigger certain memories. - I just feel like it's like the breathability of the country, you know? - What? That makes less sense. - Because when you land in like a...

in like Japan, depending on which airport you land, like the air is like stuffy or like when I landed in San Francisco, I was like, fuck this air sucks. Like I breathe in the air and I'm like, oh my God, the pollution or some shit. - You're literally just saying the same thing as he said. - No, no, he said smells. I'm like pollution level. Like Tokyo. - How can you tell the pollution level? - When you breathe in.

- Can you not like breathe the quality of air? You can't tell? - I can, but there's- - Yeah, but I can't do it at different fucking airports. - I can. - What are you, a fucking bloodhound? - When I land in the fucking country, I step off the plane, I take a deep breath, and I'm like, this is shit.

- Why is this insane? - You called me the fucking insane one. - You literally breathe the air and you're like, this air is polluting. - It literally sounds like the stupidest superpower. - I can tell pollution levels in the air I breathe. - LA has horrible air and San Francisco had- - Most big cities have horrible air.

- Yeah, it depends. - That's what makes up the city. - I can't tell the air pollution differing from most cities. For example, there's a difference between Bangkok and London. - Tokyo's awful. - Tokyo is- - Tokyo's air is horrible. - Tokyo's fine, it's fine. What are you talking about? - You don't know 'cause you've been here too long. - What are you talking about? - What are you talking about? - It's awful. - Tokyo's fine. - It is not, it tastes like shit.

- I don't like the smell. I don't like the taste. - You got your carton, it's horrible. - Yeah, go, go. - That sounds like your problem. - Anywhere in Southeast Asia is horrible. - Literally go to anywhere in Southeast Asia, go to China. - You're not selling me on it. - It's fine though.

- Yo, fuck off. - No, Singapore is not fine. - You're literally surrounded by country food. - I landed in Singapore airport and I was like, this is a really pretty airport. - That's why the airport has so much plants. With the first breath it lies to you. So you think, oh, it's actually good. Then you leave the plant fucking, 'cause I've seen their airports. It's just full of plants now.

- Yeah, yeah. It's a really pretty airport. - Okay, out of every airport I've been to, Singapore airport is by far the best fucking airport. - 100%. - And I have no idea why the Singapore airport is so good. - You know which country is the best tasting air upon landing in my experience so far?

- Amsterdam had the best air. When I got off that plane, I was like, damn, this is some clean air. - Yeah, I can agree with that. - See, even you can agree. When I got in Charles de Gaulle in Paris, I was like, put me back on the fucking plane. Get me out of here. It's bad enough I'm in Paris, let alone having to fucking breathe this air. - I was like that when I landed in JFK. - Oh my God. - In New York, I was like,

You're the New York air, you're like, "Bro, I don't even need to like, I don't even need studies to tell me this air is polluted." You know what I mean? Like, this is what I'm saying. You can tell when you get off the plane, you breathe, you're like, "Ooh, it's rough." - Yeah, but that's the same logic as what Garnt was saying about the smell of air. - It smells different to me. - Yeah, it smells different. - Maybe it's the same thing. - You're always biased about your hometown airport.

- You're always biased. I guarantee people living in New York from New York is like JFK has the best smelling airport because it smells like home.

- Guarantee. - Yeah, maybe I just know what fresh air is 'cause I'm a city boy. - I was saying to Garnt, when I get the train from London to Wales, like when I step off the train, when the train opens and I breathe in Wales, I'm like, "Holy shit, this is what actual air tastes like." - That's because you're from there though. - I'm like, "Whoa." - So there's probably a bias. - It's not like super industrial. It's just like, there's just fucking fields everywhere. - 'Cause me and Connor were walking to the office and Connor was like,

"God, this air tastes horrible." And I'm just like, Connor, what the fuck? Tokyo air is great. I don't know what you're talking about. - It is not. What are you on about? It's like a mega city, bro. The air is fucked here. - For a city, the Tokyo air is actually pretty good. I feel. - Could that possibly be the most wankerish thing that Connor has ever said? "Oh, the air tastes horrible here." - Am I allowed to- - Get this out of my face?

- I'm just saying, it doesn't taste polluted. - That could probably be the most privileged thing you could have said in your life. - My air is better than yours. - My air is better. - I can't believe I'm breathing in this precious air. - Bring me my fresh air canister, won't you? - Connor's mom comes to visit from Wales and she just brings like a jar of air. Just like Connor, breathe this in.

- What did Maylin write? Did she write incest again? - She's giving me the air quality. What is this? Is this the rating? - All right, let me see this. - Lower is better. - That's bullshit. - Let me see this. - Let me see. - Also, Hill is terrible. - So air quality index. So the higher it is, the more polluted it is. Amsterdam, 69, nice.

San Fran is 31. - I hate the fact that we've got the whole fucking office to laugh at. - No way. - Because it's number 69. - You know it. San Fran air quality index is 31. - No way. - And then Wales is 68. - It's just thrill, doesn't count. Thrill's a shit hole.

So basically what Maylene is saying is that San Fran air quality is twice as better as Wales. - Yeah, that's biased as fuck. Maylene's from San Francisco. That's why Maylene pulled that shit out. - She just came up with a random number. - No fucking way. - She's like, "Facts don't care about your feelings, Donna." - Maybe they took that out in some vineyard somewhere where it was perfect air, but that city is fucking awful. - Your nostrils are dirty. - Yo.

- Those dirty Welsh nostrils. - If you're born and raised in the city, your nostril hair is longer. Did you know that? Google it, Google it.

- Where did you get this piece of information? - On the next episode of Scientology. - Because your nostrils need to filter more shit, so it naturally just grows longer. - I get that, but where the fuck did you read that? - I don't know, I just heard it. I read it somewhere. It's true, look it up. Google it. - I believe the logic because it's just like- - That's why Marlene has these massive bushes going.

I'm gonna get a death after this. While Naby looks it up, it's true. But yeah, I don't know why I heard about that. - I don't know, man. - Yeah, I don't know. - There is a research about this. - Is there actually research about this? - Well, how climate helped shape your nose.

- Well, yeah, no, I get that, but like nose hairs? - Type in one of those. - I'm still certain. - Type in nostril hair length. - I feel sorry for the person who actually did like a full on study on this. Who woke up one day and was just like, you know what? I wanna measure nostril hair length. - My friend's nose hairs are longer than mine. There has to be a reason behind that. - We need to know these things. We don't know enough about the human body. We need to know everything so we can determine what the fuck's going on.

- Is this like when you were talking about fucking mouth breathers and all that shit? - Mouth breathers having no chin. - I don't know if this is one of those lies or not, it could be, but in my head it's one of those things where I'm like, I don't even care if this is bullshit, it makes sense. - Yeah, 'cause why are you scared? Because you were going to the dentist to get, not retainers, but the- - The mouth guard. - The mouth guard thing, and you were just like, I didn't wanna breathe. - Well, generally it's better to breathe through your nose anyway, just for air quality.

- 'Cause it filters those filters. - It has to fucking filter through. - All right, Naby. - All right, Naby, what is it? - Well, there is a study in like, but very . - Study, he says. There is a study on top of it. - I could be churning out my ass. - I feel like you are Connor. - Who knows? - If there are any nose hair experts watching this, could you leave it down in the comments please? Thank you. - The nose hair indicator forever.

- That sounds like an onion article. That doesn't sound real. - I know, but it was. - The nose hair indicator.

- It would make sense though, right? If you were born and you were in a place that was more polluted, naturally it would make sense that your body would want to do that. - I feel like that's something your mom says to be like, "It's a good thing you're not in the city, right? They have long nose hairs in the city, Connor." - You don't have to trim your nose hairs, boy. - I feel like that was a lie. - It's like a wives tale. - I always felt like I had long nose hair anyway. So I'm like, fuck, imagine if I was born in the city, I'd be like fucking Tarzan's crotch in my nose. - So interactive indicator for air quality using

nose hair length as a rough metric for just how much nasal fiber one would need to catch and filter harmful particulate matter in ageist urban air. That sounds like I'm right.

- But it's so ridiculous though. - I literally stopped listening halfway through that sentence. - But yeah, also- - Did you get that off like WikiHow? - Also, I don't know why, I started getting recommended videos about like breathing from your mouth. And I don't know why I was getting recommended this stuff, but I watched it and I thought- - Watched by other mouth breathers. - I watched it and it was like, it was one of those videos where it's like, this is, this would be,

- If I wasn't dumb as fuck, this would be so convincing. It felt so manipulative, these videos, that they were like, "Look, there's twins. "One of them was allergic to hamsters "and they had a hamster in their room "and thus he couldn't breathe through his nose. "And look what happened to his chin.

It's all gross. - They just showed like a fucking picture of leafy or something like that. - Why you gotta do them like that? That's bullying bro. - One of them is leafy and the other guy's like a chinger. - Well, it was like, one had like a clearly defined chin. - Just like, "Buff a shit chat." - One had like a clearly defined chin and one had like the, I don't even know what you call it. It's like the not really a chin. It's kind of like it leads into it. And that's generally believed to be unattractive amongst,

- Sigma male. - It's where your chin is getting swallowed into your neck. - Kinda, yeah. And it's one of those things where you're like, huh, everyone I did meet who I feel like had that kind of face did breathe through their mouth, I think. And then it's one of those things where it kind of, it builds on your just like ignorance of it and your anecdotal evidence of it.

- And I saw more videos about it and I was like, the more I feel like it, the more this is like, feels like some kind of Sigma male bullshit. You know what I mean? I felt like I was getting fed, but I don't know how accurate it is. 'Cause then I started watching videos about apparently doctors who specialize in what they'll do is that they'll, fuck what they do. They'll do something so that when you sleep or when you normally do it, that you breathe through your mouth and they go, look, it's fixed. His chin is fucking normal. - What they're just like, here's some tape. - I don't know.

- Put it on your mouth when you sleep. - It was one of those things that I didn't particularly care to learn more about it or check how real it was. - But now it's in your head. - Yeah, it was. - And now you're just like, but what if I do breathe through my nose? - But also I generally wanna breathe through my nose anyway 'cause it's just the whole of, you know, when you breathe through your mouth, it isn't being filtered and shit. I'd like to live as long as I can so I can be as stubborn as I can for as long as I can. - Yeah, I mean, like I feel- - And maybe I can become a Japanese politician and make life hell for the other young people.

- I mean, I feel like you do breathe through your nose most of the time. You can only tell who the mouth breathers are because- - Can you? - Let me finish my sentence. You can only tell who the mouth breathers are when you're in a hotel room.

and there's always the one snorer who is just like, you know sometimes when you're like bunking with- - I snore sometimes. - Yeah, sometimes when you're really quiet, when you're really tired, but sometimes you are with a group of mates and you know who the fucking snorer is, right? And it's like a fucking time limit.

of just like, all right, I've got literally half an hour to fall asleep or I'm not sleeping tonight. - And it's not just the snorers, right? Because there are the snorers that do it through their nose and then there are the snorers that do it through their mouth. - You can tell when people snore through their mouths. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it's so weird because I grew up breathing through my mouth. So I was a mouth breather when I was sleeping.

when I was a kid. - That's so funny. - But that's because I had like horrible hay fever. So like my nose was constantly blocked all the time. So I literally used this sleep sense like low key insult. I knew you were a fucking mouth breather. - It's used as an insult. - Is it? - Yeah, it's used as a predominant insult. - Like a fucking mouth breather? - Yeah, 'cause it's- - By who?

- A lot of people use it as an insult. - That's not me. - It's a pretty good descriptive insult because I feel like, you know, as much as I wouldn't use it, you get a very good picture of what they're trying to paint when someone calls you a mouth breather.

- Sounds funny, I don't know. - You fucking mouth breather. - Fucking mouth breather, god damn it. - And I just became, for a little bit, I definitely became paranoid that I was breathing through my mouth. - Am I becoming a mouth breather? - I remember that. - I was like 10 seconds, I'd be like, oh my God, I just breathed through my mouth for 10 seconds, my fucking chin.

- 'Cause I feel like I have a semi-defined chin, I guess. I don't know. - A semi-defined chin. - I don't know. I haven't got those chapped levels. - You have a nose breather chin.

- And I was like, yeah, I did breathe through my nose as a kid. But then again, I feel like it all goes on anecdotal evidence, you know, everything. Again, I don't know how accurate it is. It felt like pseudoscience when I was watching this shit. - Pretty much. - It was enough to make me care, even though I know I shouldn't. - Now you've made like a lot of people self-conscious. Everyone watching this is gonna be like, oh shit, do I breathe through my mouth? - I need to tell people I'm just doing this. Do I have a chin? Am I good? Am I good? - Isn't it sad that we give a shit about chins?

- I don't care about chins. - Why do we care about chins? - Dunno. - Did your parents ever tell you like an old folk tale or something to get you to do something as a kid? - I don't know what Japanese things there are, because in Thailand, it's like one of the things is if you eat on the bed, then when you're reincarnated in your next life, you're gonna reincarnate as a snake.

And I'm just remembering this now. - That sounds epic. - Sign me up. - And that was what I was told to not get me to eat on the bed. And I guess it works because I hate eating on the bed now. - Japan is like infamous for all these like proverbs and wives tales. Like one of them was like, if you sleep immediately after you eat, then you turn into a cow. - I think Thailand had something similar to that as well. - I think my mom stopped telling me this because whenever my mom told me them, I would immediately go and try them.

'Cause I just don't, as a kid, I just never believed anything people told me. - No, I get that. - When people would be like, "Don't walk under ladders or some shit." 'Cause apparently it's superstitious. - Or like a black cat walking past you. - Yeah, I would just go and do all those things. I'd be like, I remember one time my mom was like, "What the fuck you doing?" I just kept opening the umbrella and doors. I was like, "I wanna see if something bad happens."

So I just kept opening it indoors. - In Japan, it's all this. - And nothing happened. I was like, oh. - Well, that's the thing is like some Japanese proverbs are based on like actual like facts that are harmful to your body. Like, so the sleeping after you eat thing is actually has a little bit of logic to it because like if you do sleep immediately after you eat, then all the gastric stuff goes up your esophagus. - Why do they make me so damn sleepy? - It burns your esophagus and like damages your throat. So I'm like, oh, okay. So there's actual reasoning behind that. That's cool. But then there are some which just like-

- I reserve the way to sleep. - Don't whistle at night because snakes will come. And I'm like, snakes are literally deaf. - Oh, that sounds amazing. - They have no ears. - Snake army. - Well, yeah, 'cause you know how snake charm was there. It isn't from the music, it's from the movement. - From the vibrations. - The movement. - It's literally the movement of this. - Yeah, the movement of the guy that they follow.

- How did snake charmers like start? - They just wake up one day and they're like, "You know what? I want to charm some snakes. I got a flute, got a basket." - White people are stupid. I don't know. - Do snake charmers even exist anymore?

- You don't really charm them, do you? You just make them dance a little bit. - Right, but is that like a thing? Is there a person out there somewhere in the world that's like, "Yes, I'm a professional snake charm"? - Probably. - It's probably your mouth breather.

- Why, why? You're obsessed with that word now. - Now that you've told me it is an insult, I'm just like- - All snakes' charms are mouth breathers. - If there's fucking psychics out there, that can be any job. I don't really give a fuck. - I just feel though, it's like one of those like pseudo occupations that were kind of very timely back in the day. It's like, you know, like a soothsayer, right? Like no one goes around being like, I'm a professional soothsayer.

- What's a soothsayer? - They're just like budget magicians. Yeah, what is that actually? - A soothsayer is like a person who goes around and tells fortunes and tells your future and stuff. - Oh, that's a load of shit. - Like a fortune teller. - Like kind of, yeah. - That's an occupation that should have been- - But soothsayer sounds way cooler. - That's an occupation that should have gone out of business. - I think it did go out of business. - No, fortune telling. - Oh, fortune telling? - Yeah. - How that shit still exists, I don't know. I have friends who do that and I'm just like, you're a fucking idiot. - Oh really? - Yeah. - With like the what? The crystal ball or tarot cards? - Or like read their hands and stuff.

- Oh, like the Meridian signs and stuff, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm like, have you seen some of the fish out there? Like, do you think God really gave enough of a fuck to worry about putting fucking inscriptions on your hand of what your life's gonna be like? Man couldn't even finish half the fucking fishes in the ocean. Are you serious, bro? Like, come on. No, no, he did not. He did not inscribe. He just didn't give a fuck about you. - I mean, I like doing it every now and then just to see what they say.

- We like to feel interesting as people. That's an egotistical need that we have. But I genuinely believe that we are not interesting things. It is up to us to make our own lives interesting and horoscopes and all that and all that nonsense. I just don't believe in any of it. 'Cause I'm like, nobody gives a fuck about this. - You don't believe in like star signs or anything like that? - No, honestly, I don't. - Yeah, me neither. Anyway.

- The whole blood type, the whole lines on your hands, all of that shit I just think is fucking nonsense. I think it's cool and when someone tells me I'll listen. - I think it's cool for the sake of entertainment. - I view it as more just like an entertaining thing or like a conversation starter.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's not something I take seriously. - But I'm like, is your life so fucking boring where this is the thing that gets you excited? This is what you look forward to? Like you need lies to tell yourself to feel like you're doing something in life? Just go and fucking do something. - Some people need that, man. Some people need that encouragement. - Wow. - Stop. Go and do something. Stop reading your fucking hands. - Only mouth breathers do that.

- The reason why you have no chin is not because of a line in your hand, okay? - It's because you breathe through your mouth. - Connor's like, "Fuck reading your hands, but please breathe through your mouth." That's real.

- I think that you could like, there is behavior that you can do that can affect your health and your body. - Yeah. - I feel like that's fair to say. - Yeah, I mean like I feel- - But I think that no mystical entity decided to carve some fucking lines in your hand and that that would decide how your personality was gonna be. No, fuck no.

- I mean, yeah, there is a clear difference because I feel like there is a lot of little things you just don't know about your body and then you don't figure it out until you hit like 30 or something. And then you realize, oh. - We also don't know a lot of the stuff about the human body. We have like, we're still like barely understanding how the mind works, you know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're still like fucking,

decades or centuries off to like figuring out how that works. But in terms of- - I mean, all of America doesn't even have bidets. So how the fuck are they gonna have scientific breakthroughs? - I can't believe it. - You can't have a scientific breakthrough not with a bidet. - They call themselves a first world country. - I know. - Not having any bidets. - It's like if they haven't figured that out, how the fuck are they gonna figure out what's going on in the brain? Sorry, go ahead, Carl.

- I completely forgot what I was gonna say now. - You're talking about saying that you haven't discovered anything about the brain. - No, it's just like part of like growing up and growing into like your thirties, I guess, is just realizing that sometimes you just have a problem with your body. And like, as a kid, I thought everything's fixable. Everything will go back to normal eventually. Yeah, and then you don't realize that sometimes you just have a problem and then you just,

- You just learn to live with it. I guess it's sad. - I just kind of hope that you don't get a problem that's too insufferable. - Like kidney stones, fuck if I get those, fuck.

- Everyone around my age just starts talking about their knees and luckily enough, I haven't felt anything about my knees yet. - It's like lower back pain, knees, neck pain, headaches. - It's just like God decided, all right, everyone gets a debuff at 30. Everyone gets a different one. - It's like the moment you turn 30, just God comes to your sleep and just clocks you in the knees. It's like, you're 30 now.

- Yeah, I don't know. I watched that video of, what was it? It was probably on your guys recommended as well of like, how do kidneys- - I was gonna watch that. I had it on the watch later, I never did. - Yeah, 'cause it was super interesting video. I recommend it, but it's like- - Explain it to me. - Basically it's this guy who, he got big off TikTok I think because he's like a,

He's like works in forensics or something, but basically he uses like the bodies that, you know, you donate to science and to study things about the human body basically. And this guy got really big on TikTok. I forgot his name. Basically just doing short videos of like, did you know that this is a real stomach? I'm going to open it up and show you how food is digested or whatever. And he has a YouTube channel.

And he literally gets like a real human body that like was donated to science. - Where's he getting this? - People donating their bodies to science after they die. - Okay. - It's TikTokers, TikTok. - Yeah, yeah. He works in like some kind of like scientific research facility. - Fucking Dexter or something. - Here's what I dug up earlier.

- It's like the modern day Dexter. He's not a forensics expert, he's just a TikToker. - Has anyone checked this guy's credentials? Is he legit? - It's just insane. - I'm sure if I turned up with a body being like, "No, no, no, I got it, I got the donation." - Yeah, some guy donated it very kindly. - It was a donation. - But basically he gets a proper human body and opens up the kidneys and explains how kidney stones form and why they fucking hurt and stuff. And it's like,

Man, I can't imagine something that big traveling through my dick. - How big is it? - Some of these are big, bro. - Some of these can go like that. - But you have to just hope they break down in your kidneys, 'cause they just can't go through the tubes. These ultrasound, ultrasonic? Yeah, ultrasonic. - Yeah, yeah.

- Kidneys to break it. - They literally scream at it to like crumble. - Scream. - It's like, oh! And then it shatters. That's literally what they do sometimes. - That's actually the Tyler One audio they play. - Get the shit out of me! - But in worst case scenarios where like not even that works, that it's so crystallized and so hard, they literally go through your penis with like a pair of tweezers to just pull it out.

- I did not need to hear this. - Yeah, I'm sorry. - I did not need to hear that. - Yeah, this guy, Institute of Human Anatomy. That's the guy. Yeah, really cool TikTok channel. - Sounds legit. - And YouTube channel, yeah. - I just hope he's not a serial killer. - Yeah, yeah.

- I mean, he sounds nice. - I don't want any tweezers going in my pee-pee. - Yeah. - I can't, I literally can't handle like hospitals at all. I just like faint immediately doing anything. - That's why I'm like really nervous to get older because you have to do, you know when you hit like a certain age, you have to do the annual colonoscopy and shit like that. I'm just like, I'm just not looking forward to the day where a camera has to go up my ass. - Hospitals are probably the only fear that I have that I think is like irrational, I guess. I guess is that what it counts as?

- Well, I mean, because lots of bad stuff happen in hospitals, right? - It's just like, I know the shit's gonna happen to my body. I'm not used to it. I don't like it. I don't like anything. And I just always like get so lightheaded to where I faint. It's horrible. - You scared of needles or anything like that? - No, I don't give a shit about needles. It's like operations and stuff terrify me. - It's just things entering my body that shouldn't be there. - Even like when I went to the dentist the other day, like just having like the fucking shit in my mouth, like fucking loud as fuck, it hurts. Yeah, I was getting lightheaded. I was like,

- I mean, that's why everyone hates going to the dentist. 'Cause like you hear sounds in your mouth that just shouldn't be made anywhere near. - It's weird 'cause I didn't give a fuck as a kid. I didn't care at all when I had to go and do that stuff. But I don't know what happened between like after age 18 where I suddenly started being terrified of it. I'm not really sure why. - Like I can barely,

give myself eye drops, let alone something going into my body. - Sometimes you have that friend who's had like 10 surgeries. - Yeah, right. - I'm like, how the fuck are you doing this? How are you not like fucking freaking out all the time? - Yeah, right. - Maybe they are, I don't know. - It's like when my dad comes back from his annual colonoscopy, right? It's just like, you know, it's the same vibe as like, yeah, just went to the pub. - I think I legit would faint. - Yeah, right? - How do I tell the doctor, I'm like, listen, I'm a little bitch, bro.

- I don't know what's gonna happen. - Yeah, like I'm- - You gonna lube me up or something? I don't know. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, like I'm lucky enough to like have never needed to have surgery or anything like that, but just like the concept of it fucking terrifies me. That's one thing that fucking keeps me up at night. - Even if it's not a life threatening surgery. - No. - It's like- - Like the whole idea of being under anesthesia just like terrifies me. - Oh no, I hate the surgeries where you're not on it. - Yeah. - Or you're on light one. Like the surgeries when like,

but I think my parents, my mom had something with a heart and she had to be awake for it. And that was just terrifying. - What? - Yeah, 'cause apparently, I don't know, it sounded awful. Apparently you can feel it and stuff. And I'm like, "Ah!" Yeah, it's terrible. Imagine like you can, yeah, exactly right, it's horrible. But if you have to have it, you have to have it, right? But I think maybe it came from, I had to get, so I had hemophilia where like, if I bleed, you know, don't stop bleeding. I had to go like every three weeks

three or six months to the hospital to go and do tests just to make sure it wasn't getting worse or getting any better. Luckily it didn't get any worse. But yeah, it was awful. I hated going. And I would do it. It was just like a terrible experience. - I think it's because of what like the atmosphere in a hospital. - Oh, yeah. - That hospital atmosphere. - So the ward that I'd always have to go to was just filled with like old people that were like dying.

Like some of them couldn't like even like think or talk. And it was, and I felt so bad 'cause they would talk to me and they just didn't understand. It scared the fuck out of me when I was like 13. - Oh yeah. - I was like, oh my God. Oh Jesus. - Yeah, because it's like, it's that like glimpse into a possible future where I'm like, oh shit, I could be like that one day. - Yeah, and the smell.

- Yeah. - Yeah, talking about smells, hospitals do definitely have a distinct smell. - Even like thinking about the smell makes you uncomfortable. - That's what I hate about the dentist as well. Like the dentist has that like type of smell that's like, "Oh, what is that?" - That's why when you get- - Dentists smell sanitized. I don't know.

- It's like it's overly sanitized. - This is too- - Yeah, it's like you just stepped into a crime scene. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just like, oh man. - Everything's bleached to shit. - Yeah, everything's bleached to shit. - I hate it when the doctor doesn't talk at all, doesn't crack jokes or anything. I like it 'cause when the nurse is funny as fuck, I feel so good. I feel like, oh, I'm chill. When the nurse is cracking jokes, she's like, "Yeah, I do this all the fucking time." And she's like, "Tell me about funny old other-

of patients and stuff. I feel so more at ease. When the doctor doesn't say anything, I'm like, "What's going on? Talk to me, what's going on?" - Yeah, when the doctor doesn't smile or anything like that. - Yeah, I'm like, "Whoa, what's going on, bro? Come on, tell me, tell me." - It's like, "I know you're being serious with your job, but..."

- Help me calm down a little bit dude. It's like we're at a job interview. - I remember there was only one time I ever wanted to go to the hospital and it was this one specific hospital that I think I went to one time had a GameCube right when it came out and I was like- - What is this mythical hospital? - Right? - Yeah. - But- - Why don't more hospitals do that? - And I was like, all right, next. I saw it and I was like, I saw it as I was leaving. I was like, next time I'm coming, I'm gonna play it.

And then I went and someone fucking stole the controllers. So they had a GameCube with no fucking controllers. They're like "Super Mario Sunshine", "Super Mario Strikers", "Super Mario Party Brawl". They brawl somehow. I guess you couldn't even buy that game often. - Why did they have this at a hospital? - I think it was like a charity had given them, had donated this like a room where, 'cause it was when I was like 12. So I was like, "I want kids."

- Well, that makes the assholes stole the controls even worse. - Some fucking dickhead stole a fucking GameCube controller from a children's hospital that had been donated from a charity. What? Who does that? Who does that? I hope it's another kid. - It's probably a mouth breather. - I hope it's another kid.

- I don't know if this is a controversial insult. - Is it a controversial one? - I don't even know. - I don't even know. If it is, we apologize. - I just can't take that insult seriously anymore. - Apparently it was an insult back in the 1940s in America.

- 40s America. - It's been around for that long? - Yeah. - Jesus Christ. This is the first I'm hearing of it. - This is like if I taught you the word bussin', you found out it was racist or something afterwards. It's like, shit, I've been saying it the whole episode. - Jesus Christ. - I wonder the motivation of somebody who steals a GameCube controller from a, it was already a rare console at the time. - Honestly, it was probably another kid, right? - It was probably another kid, I imagine it was. - Another kid who just doesn't have a GameCube or is wanting a GameCube. - Or they stole a GameCube from someone, forgot the controllers.

- Yeah, how are you like, 'cause GameCubes at that time, I think were quite expensive and they were, I mean, the games weren't cheap 'cause it's Nintendo. - Yeah. - So- - I mean, the games are still- - Imagine you're rich enough where your parents buy your GameCube, but not enough controllers. So you steal it from a kid's hospital? Like, what? - What an asshole. - No, I don't know. Really strange, really bizarre. Fuck that kid. I was so excited to play fucking Brawlers. They're chibi-robo as well, bro. - What were you in the hospital for? - I don't know, I was getting checkups, I think.

- You're like, "Mom, mom, can we go to the hospital please? Mom?" - I know I went to the hospital a lot. I know I had a lot of, I think injuries, but all of them ended up being like just chill ones. Just like no big deal. - Just like bruises or whatever. - Just like bruise, sprains, like not nothing. Luckily I never broke bones, so. - Wow. - Yeah. - I don't know how I got so lucky 'cause I fucked my body up so many times. I don't know how I got so lucky. - It's like, why is my kid so enthusiastic to go to the hospital?

- Yeah, and also sometimes you get like, your parents would like buy you like a sweet or something afterwards. They'd be like, yeah, you get some like nice food 'cause you went to hospital. - I thought when you said sweet, I thought you meant like a hotel suite. - You're too adult, J.O. - That's born me a sweet. - We call them sweets in the UK. - Oh, okay. - If you buy like chocolate or that, it's like sweets. - Do you know what we call them in Australia? - What? - Jandy? - Lollies?

- Oh yeah, we are. No, no, no. We have, we refer to lollipops. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do you refer to all candies? - All candy are lollies, yeah. - Oh, so we refer to lollies as just lollipop. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in Australia, they're all called lollies. There's this infamous meme photo of me from back in the day where I'm at an airport in Sydney and I just thought it was really funny. I just posed next to this sign that just said bagged lollies and I just like.

- He just did that. And it's like made his rounds on like mean forms and stuff. - I'm glad that the lollipop is the worst candy of all time. - It is. - Because now I can say I hate lollies in every sense of the word.

- It is, no, I remember when I used to get it like age 10, they give you a lollipop and you're like, for fuck's sake, it's the cola flavored fucking lollipop. - I like the cola flavored ones. - Fuck, that sucks, man. - You mean the chopper chops, right? - Yeah, the cola flavored chopper chops are the best. - No, fuck off, cola flavored sweets are just not good. - They suck. - It's like eating hard, flat,

And that's the best way I can describe it. Like flat Coke is bad enough as it is. Let's make it hard. - I never liked, who liked lollipops? They fucking sucked.

- I mean, I'm not gonna go out of my way to eat a fucking chopper chops now. - Yeah. - But I won't complain if someone gives me one. - It was made to like make kids eat sweets for a long time that aren't actually like at a lot of sweets. - Yeah. - I was smart. I realized this is waste. This is not optimized. I can eat way more than this. - I have teeth to break this down. - I hated it. I'd never go for the lollipops. - What's your favorite type of candy?

- The one that you always go back to. - I think chocolate is the best sweet thing, but that's often not considered candy. It's kind of its own thing. I really liked the- - Haribo. I love Haribo. - Sour Haribo were pretty fucking good. I like sour Haribo. Anything's, I like the laces.

- Oh, the sour like strips, right? - Sour laces, oh, the sour strips, the rainbow sour strips. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Those things slap, I love those. - In Australia, did you have like the penny sweets? - Penny sweets? - Yeah, we had this in the UK. - Yeah, where you go to like a, literally a fucking candy store and you get given a bag and you just like fill it up. - Oh yes, yes, yes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean those, I think those fucking candies slapped. - Oh yeah, yeah. - Well, we have the biggest one in Wales is like in my town and it's literally like the size of this set.

- That's huge. - But I mean, every single wall is candy. It's good. And they used to have these like really fucking sour things. Like the most sour sweet in the world. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They're just dunked in that fucking horrible sour stuff you gave us for that one video. - Oh yeah. - It was just fun. - I love sour candy, man. - Yeah, sour candy is my favorite, but it's awful though 'cause you can't drink anything afterwards and water tastes bad. - Water tastes sweet, right? - Yeah. - I kinda like that though. - What? - I don't know why. It's something about that where it's like every other drink,

tastes like absolute shit. But like when the water is sweet, I'm just like, ooh. - Yeah, I mean, it's kind of nice. - Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's that bad. It's fucking water. - It's just water, bro. - I'm not too British. I think I like crisps the most. That is my favorite snack. - Walker's crisps? - Yeah, Walker's crisps are amazing. We have so many good crisps in the UK 'cause it's like a national like identity.

Like every single lunch must have a bag of crisps. - Not chips, crisps. - Crisps. - Crisps. - Nah, they're called chips. - We have so many good brands of crisps. Like I fucking love Monster Munch. I love McCoy's. - Okay, those are good. Monster Munch sounds epic. - Do Monster Munch fucking sound? - I will say the best crisp I miss, Walker's Max Paprika flavor. - They're just McCoy's kind of, but like lighter. Like McCoy's are like thick.

- No, no, no, 'cause like Walker's Max has like the right- - These must sound fucking stupid to any Americans. They're like, what are they saying? - I'm just like one of these. - The Walker's Max crisps have like the right amount of like oiliness to them. - Yeah. - It's just like, it's a little unhealthy. - It's kind of weird 'cause like we give like, you know, I don't know what the standard lunch is in Australia or America. - Yeah. - But like if you ever have a lunch in the UK, it normally just comes with crisps.

- It's like a given that it comes with. - Oh, like a school lunch. - Most lunches come with a bag of crisps. - I mean, yeah, I guess like, you know, I used to eat like chips and stuff during like lunch and stuff. - But then it's really common as well to just have tons of bags

of crisps in your house in the UK. - Oh yeah, no, no, yeah, we had that as well. - Every meal deal you get in the UK includes crisps. It doesn't matter if it's like fucking Tesco's or fucking Subway. - You go to Subway, yeah, there's crisps. You go to Greg's, there's crisps. It's always like, it comes with the lunch. It's such a staple in the British lifestyle. - Wait, what, just like salt flavored? - No, we have so many flavors and I think they're amazing. I've yet to find many brands of crisps that I don't like in the UK. Like Quavers, I love Quavers.

- I love, even though you have to buy, so Quavers, have you seen these before? Basically like cheese flavored, like thin curls of like- - Yeah, they're cheese flavored, but they don't taste anything like Cheetos. - No, no, it's like a much lighter. You can eat like seven bags in one sitting, no problem, 'cause it just tastes like air. The whole thing is like, it's light and has like two calories. Yeah, but it has like two bites in the bag. So it's two calories. Yeah, that's what it looks like. - Yeah, 'cause like, yeah. - They're fucking amazing, bro.

- Never seen those. - I think those are okay. - We have like these Pombears, what are they called? They're in France as well. - Pombears? - Yeah, like the bears, Chris. - I've never seen those before. - They're really good. - What the fuck are they? - They're in Europe too. Yeah, they're German, right? We have those as well. But the other British ones, the Monster Munch is my favorite. Chris loves Monster Munch too, I think, and McCoy's. He's pretty British though. - Yeah. McCoy's is okay. I still stand by the Walker's Max. - Let me Google British crisps. There's so fucking many.

- It's been like a fucking tangent, hasn't it? - Yeah. - We have so many good- - All Australians watching this can agree that the best chips we have is Red Rock Deli chips. That's like the one Australian, that is the one brand that I've been saying since the beginning of my career, I will happily sell out. - We recently, but by about this time, just before I left, we recently started having a boom of like,

- High-end crisps in the UK. - Oh, you mean the kettle chips? - Yeah, kettle chips. - I do like them. - Kettle chips are bomb. - I fucking love them. - There's like Tyrols are like massive now in the UK. - Tyrols? - Tyrols. You sometimes see them in Japan. They import them. - Really? - As like premium British crisps. There's also French, they're called French fries. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do you have these? - I think so. - They're just like crisps that are shaped like French fries. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have those. - They're really fucking good. - I don't think they're called French fries though. There's like a different brand for those. - We have Squares.

- Squares fucking slaps. - I fucking love squares. - They're so good. - Okay, now you're talking, Connor. Now you're talking. - Dude, they're so good. - Squares? - I'll put them on the screen. - I assume they're square. - They're already crispy, salty squares. And the salt and vinegar ones are super fucking salty. They have salt and vinegar, prawn cocktail, and cheese and onion. - Prawn cocktail. I've realized cheese and onion is a very British flavor.

- Fucking cheese and onion is like the best fucking- - 'Cause we don't have cheese and onion flavored stuff in Australia. - Dude, you're missing out. - Cheese and onion is honestly like- - It's the best one. - The one brand of chips that I thought was fucking awesome was when I was in Ireland, I had Tato's. - Tato's? I think that's a specific Irish one. - That's specific to Ireland, but the cheese and flavor Tato's

- Man, orgasmic. This is so fucking good. - But wait, yeah, wait, fuck. What were we on before that? - Squares. - Squares. - Squares are really nice. We also have hula hoops. - Hula hoops? - Do they have these in America? I'm pretty sure they do. They're just the ones that you put on your, they can fit on your fingers. They're like rings. - Oh yeah, I remember those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We have knickknacks. I really like knickknacks. - I never had those. - People, that's a very like marmalade kind of thing.

- Marmalade. - Right, I think that's what it is. Is that what it is? I can't remember what it is. We have Wotsits. - That sounds weird. - What are they called, Wotsits in America as well? - I think they have Wotsits in America. - They're like Cheetos? - Yeah, they kind of feel like Cheetos. - Jacob Minis. Sensations.

- I remember sensations, oh my God. - They had like premium bagged crisps. - But these are all like Walker's brands, right? - Yeah, they're all worn by Walker's. - 'Cause Walker's is just like, what are they called in America again? - Lays. - I wish we had this conversation last week when Shu was here. 'Cause I don't have another Australian to relate to. - Apparently there's so many news organizations in the UK have done tier lists of crisps.

from like bottom tier to like high tier. - Well, that's an after dark story. - We also had a bag of crisps that was really popular. It was called salt and shake. That was like a bag of crisps that hadn't been salted and it would come with salt. And the whole gimmick of this thing was that you put the salt in and shake it. - You'd shake it. - Yeah, you'd literally salt it yourself. - Right, right, right.

and it tastes like shit. - I was about to say that's kind of innovative. - Because it was like, it was just unsalted evenly. Like the salt would stick to like the bottom and- - And then the rest of the sauce just at the bottom. - Yeah, it was terrible. But like, yeah, it's like, if you come to the UK, I really highly recommend trying all our crisps. - Yeah, I don't really rate the Japanese ones too much. - No, they're pretty bad.

- The pizza potato one's pretty good. - Yeah, I was about to say, only the pizza chips are good. - I don't know why you like the pizza potato ones. - Yeah, I told Chris, I was like, next video that I wanna make with him is trying all the Japanese crisps and grading them. 'Cause it was like, you know, just two fucking super British people complaining about crisps. 'Cause there's a lot of like meh ones here. - Yeah, there's a lot of meh ones. - Most of the ones you find here are just pretty meh, especially the ones from like the Konbini. - But the flavors they have are so bizarre. And they have Doritos here, but they're like taco flavored.

and it does not taste like taco. - Well, they have Cheetos here as well, but it doesn't taste like Cheetos. - But that's how I feel about like pizza flavored stuff. I mean, what is the flavor of pizza anyway? Right? - Crust. - Yeah, no crust apparently. - No, no, no. - No crust apparently. Not a single fucking crust in sight, mate. You won't see a crust. - Yeah, you should love it technically. There's no crust. - I mean, it's a pizza, you know? A pizza has a unique- - It's a pizza. - It's a pizza. You need the crust in the pizza, just not the crust by itself.

- You hearing this? - This man's stuck. - I'm not gonna start. We're not gonna start talking about fucking pizza crust again. We've moved on. We've evolved from that. - Let's just talk about the patrons before we get onto that tangent. - Talk about people who are definitely not mouth breathers. Look at all these patrons. - I bet it's gonna insult Sony people. - I really hope there isn't like a mouth breathing community on the internet that's just gonna come out.

But hey, if you're not a mouth breather, then maybe go over to our Patreon. - I'll laugh if this episode ages super horribly. - Probably fucking will. - So it becomes like the next Rachel slur. But yeah, consider following us on Patreon and support the show, patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our faces, listen to us on Spotify.

- I'm literally Googling right now, is mouth breathers offensive? - It doesn't matter 'cause the way Garnt said it sounded a little too cozy. - That was a hard M on the word mouth there, Garnt. I don't like the way you inflicted that. - But I hope you enjoyed this episode of Trash Taste. - And we'll see you guys next week.

- It says, "Being called mouth breather is used as a derogatory term used to describe someone who as well..." Here's the urban dictionary definition. "Literally someone who lacks enough intelligence that they never learned to breathe through their nose." - Well, that's been this episode of Trash Taste. - And on that bombshell, good night. - Bye.