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The Doujin Episode | Trash Taste #53

2021/6/18
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Garnt: 本期节目需要饮酒助兴,因为要讨论的内容比较敏感。他认为阅读大量的色情漫画是一件很累人的事情,长时间观看不感兴趣的色情内容也是一种糟糕的体验。他认为耽美漫画比动画更刺激,阅读耽美漫画比观看动画更能投入剧情。他认为有些耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快,有些故事很混乱。 Joey: 他不读耽美漫画,也不喜欢带有阅读性质的色情内容。他们决定让Connor阅读他们各自推荐的三部耽美漫画,他们都推荐了至少200页长的耽美漫画给Connor。他认为阅读大量色情漫画是一件很累人的事,长时间观看不感兴趣的色情内容是一种糟糕的体验。他认为阅读耽美漫画比观看动画更能投入剧情,通常会快速浏览故事的主要情节。他选择的作品是因为喜欢其作者的画风,并认为这是该作者作品中最不奇怪的一部。他认为耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快,有些故事很混乱。 Connor: 寻找和阅读耽美漫画的经历非常糟糕,网站上充斥着弹窗广告。他阅读的耽美漫画没有章节划分,导致阅读体验很差。阅读这些耽美漫画比看烂电影更痛苦。他觉得阅读耽美漫画时难以产生性兴奋。他认为耽美漫画比动画更刺激,阅读耽美漫画比观看动画更能投入剧情。阅读耽美漫画时很难忽略故事本身。他认为有些耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快。他觉得有些故事很混乱,有些情节带有男性沙文主义色彩。他认为色情漫画需要一定的故事情节。他认为有些作品很糟糕。 Garnt: 他认为有些耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快。他觉得这个故事很混乱,结尾处有180度的大转折。他认为故事中有一些情节带有男性沙文主义色彩。他认为耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快。他觉得这个故事很混乱。他认为色情漫画的情节发展速度太快。 Joey: 他选择这部作品是因为喜欢其作者的画风,并认为这是该作者作品中最不奇怪的一部。他认为耽美漫画的情节发展速度太快。他认为这个故事很混乱。他选择这部作品是因为他知道其他人会对它有强烈的反应。他认为故事结尾的反转不应该出现在色情漫画中。他认为色情漫画需要一定的故事情节。 Connor: 他认为这个故事很奇怪,但有时也很刺激。他认为故事结尾的反转很突兀。他认为故事中有一些情节带有男性沙文主义色彩。他认为色情漫画需要一定的故事情节。他认为这部作品很糟糕。

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The hosts introduce the concept of doujinshi and discuss their personal experiences with it.

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- While you open the wine, Garnt, I will explain what we're doing today. - This is going to be a wine episode because we're going to need the alcohol to get through this. - We've been drinking a while on Trash Taste 'cause I feel like we've been filming earlier. But yeah, essentially, I don't read Durgens as I've expressed before. - No, no, you don't read. - I don't read. I don't read full stop. And preferably I do not like my porn to be reading. We can get into that.

So instead we decided the boys have both recommended me three doujins each to read. - And then we are going to end on a very special one where I'm sure people are going to be excited for. - So in total we're gonna talk about seven? - Yeah, we're gonna be talking about seven doujins or doujinshi. - Six doujins and a mess, metamorphosis, which we'll get into.

So yeah, and there's a little special thing going on where I don't know whose is which. So I've been recommended six. - Do you have like no clue at all? - I think I've, some of them I know. Some of them I know. - I thought some were pretty obvious. - Some were very, very obvious. Damn, you needed two shots of vodka there, God damn, okay. Some were very obvious, some I don't know. And throughout this, I will be guessing as well,

whose doujin was which recommendation. - Well, mostly though, this show is gonna be just watching me and Garnt just enjoying Connor's reactions to our recommendations. - And I assume you both read each other's recommendations. - Yeah, yeah. It's funny because we recommended three doujinshi each. And I remember giving the list to Joey and Joey gave his list.

And we were like, "Damn, we both recommended Jojins "that were like 200 pages long at least." And we were just like, "Connor, it's cool. "You don't need to read it all. "Just read like three chapters or something." - Until you get like the general gist of it, right? - Yeah. - But then Connor was like, "Bet."

- I'm like, first of all, why do I even read "Dogens"? I don't even know where you go. I was like, I'm totally confused. - I mean, there's lots of sites out there. - And then I look for the sites, you know, and it just gets to the point where I'm just fighting for my fucking life to get the shit on full screen. There's fucking pop-ups every two fucking seconds. I'm just trying to do my homework and I gotta worry about fucking hot single ladies in my area. It's terrible. - We'll get used to it, man. - How long did it take you to read

Everything.

- I was under the impression, right? That doujins were like 30, 40 pages. - No, a lot of them are. That's the thing. - How did you guys manage to find all of them that were like 200 fucking pages? - Because those are the best ones. - Those are the best ones. - Yeah. - And I remember you saying, oh, you know, just stop at one chapter. There was never any breaks in these things. So I couldn't just draw them. - What do you mean? They all had chapters. - Not that I saw when I was reading them. I don't know where I was reading them. - When it says at the end of the chapter, it says like ending or like to be continued or something. - But I also feel like, you know,

- Some of them literally have a whole page that says chapter two. - I did not see them, but I read them all. - Jesus Christ. - So I'm gonna tell the names of these Derogations, which again, still mean nothing to me. Doro Saggy to Anthony.

- White man butchers Japanese. - Anthony? - What is it? - I don't know. - Go on, go on, what else? - Sakubai's supporter. - So you're saying the Japanese name and then the translated name. - Oh, is that what this is? - Some of them have like English translations of the Japanese name.

- Life consultation after 10 years. - Yeah. - Very interesting title. - Yeah. - Okay. - Teacher and student. - Yeah. - I mean, I understand that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. So, I mean, I just went in order of which one you gave me. So I read. - Okay. - I read Dory, Usagi, Anthony. When should I guess whose I think it is? - Why don't you guess it right at the beginning? - Why don't you guess it right at the beginning?

- It's a 50/50. - I think I wrote down each one. I think this was Joey's. - You are correct. - And I think because there was like a lolly for like 10 seconds. I was like, "Joey." - I saw the cover and I'm just like Connor's gonna immediately guess this. - Yeah, 'cause the cover looked like fucking Shinobu.

- Cover looked like this bitch. - This was the cover of the main girl. And I'm just like, she like emanates such Shinobu energy that Connor's gonna immediately guess this. - The first thing I wrote was just from the cover, I think it's Joey.

- This is literally gonna be, if it's not a MILF, it's a lolly, the episode. - There was some where, yeah. - To be fair, this one I don't blame you. - She wasn't a lolly, she just looked like Shinobu. - Before we jump right into it,

- What were your thoughts? Yeah, what were your thoughts going into just reading "Hentai"? Because this is like our unofficial sequel to the "Hentai" episode, I guess. - Go check that out if you haven't yet. - It is exhausting reading porn. - Well, I'm sure it is if you read- - It's like, if you asked me to like,

Okay, if you're horny, you want to jack off to something, you can do it, right? A 10 minute video or whatever. If you made me sit through like a two hour JV when I'm not horny, I couldn't imagine like a worse experience in my life. - 'Cause how long were you collectively reading these doujins for? - Like three to four hours.

- Back to back. - Well, it's because we thought, right? We were like, I saw the list and I was like, all of these are like full on like books. - Yeah, I read them all. - So I was like, oh, okay. So like, you know, a couple of chapters each max take like an hour. - He just needs to get an idea of each. - Well, there's only one of them I didn't read fully was 'cause there was like 20, 800 pages. - It was like 500 pages, right? - Ridiculous. So I gave up on the first one, but I mean, yeah, it was just, it was exhausting. It is really.

I've sat through really bad movies that I felt were less painful. It is just difficult. I'm like reading "Dogins", I can see it. Sometimes you see something like, oh, that's hot. And then I'm like, even if I wanted to jack off here, what am I supposed to do? Do I just sit there and think about what I'm looking at? Like that feels like I'm like de-evolving.

Like at what point do I just do like Morse code masturbating? Like where I'm like, oh dude, that's so hot. She's telling me she's gonna fuck me in Morse. Like, I don't know, to me, I like the movement. I'm not seeing enough movement, you know? - I'm not seeing enough movement. My eyes are not stimulated enough. - I don't know. I was reading this and I just like, every time I thought this was really hot, I'm like, well, what'd I do?

- What would I do? - It's not continuing, I have to continue it. - My cock in my hand, I don't know what to do. - I'm like, what do I do? Dick in hand, what do I do? What do I do? It's not moving, it needs to move. When does it start moving? - This is the exact reaction I wanted. - Yeah, yeah. - Even if I thought it was hot, you know, I just,

- Some of them, I will admit, some of them I thought were quite attractive. I thought they were very well done. If they were an anime form, I'd not. - It's weird because some of these have had anime adaptations, right? - I know. - But to me, the doujin version is always hotter than the anime version. I don't know what it is about- - I mean, the drawings are very more intense. That's something I learned very quickly. - I get a way more intense feeling from reading the doujins. No, no, because-

than watching the anime adaptation. - No, no, I agree. - To me, it's a different kind of art form, right? 'Cause to me, reading doujins is like, to me, it's a really good way to warm up, right? Because to me, who really likes sitting through a 20 minute hentai?

- I don't mind, you know, I've got time. - I mean, most of the time I'm just like, whatever. But for some reason in stories and doujins, I'm like, I'm listening, go on. - You're reading, Joey. - I'm reading, I'm like, I'm invested, go on. - To me, reading doujins is just getting the story, you know, getting the context and getting, being able to get the story without having to like,

just watch 20 minutes of just boring buildup. - And it's so much hotter when you understand the context. - I like speed run the story most of the time anyway. Like if it's like this, you know what they're doing.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Tap, tap, tap, tap. I get it, I get it. He's your brother, all right, okay. I'm a laundry machine, I don't know. I skip forward, I'm like, okay, I've got enough understanding of the plot that I can go now. - Yeah, right. - I can do it, I can enjoy it. - So did you like, did you like,

- Did you input any of the stories of any of the ones you read? - Yeah, no, I did. I actually like, 'cause obviously when you're reading, it's really hard to ignore the story. - You can't double-tap. - It's really, really frustrating. - You couldn't skip the cut scenes. - You're like, what am I doing wrong? - I feel like this is a fatal flaw of books. You can't skip any of the story. - You can't skip the cut scenes. You can't just go straight to the gameplay. - As much as I tried. - All right, so let's start with the first one then.

- Which is the first one you wanna start with? - Do you wanna go in order? - I thought it was like a dance in here. - So this is the one where, it was just a strange story. And I admit that at times it was quite hot, but then it was also really weird. Really, really weird. So I mean, like- - How so? - So there's this girl who's a ghost, but she's then not a ghost. I think she's taking medicine to go invisible.

And then she's like sucking him off in the class and no one can see him suck it. No one, but she's invisible, but he's not. So why is his dick invisible? This is gonna sound really strange. This was a very confusing plot. - Oh yeah.

if you care about reading the doujins, we're gonna be spoiling it, I guess. If you care about the plot. - Spoilers. - This was like, for every like, in this one at least, for every like one moment that I was like, oh, that's hot. It would literally do 10 other things. So I'm like, what the fuck is this? - Honestly, I, 'cause,

- After you've read everything, 'cause I only, I thought you were just gonna read a few chapters of everything. So I read a few chapters of Joey. And then when you said you read everything, I went back to just completely finish everything as well, right? - I feel like there's just a complete 180 at the end as well, where it starts going into this other backstory. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - That author tends to do that with everything he writes. - There was just like moments in there where I had to write down. It was like, this shit is mad incel.

- Isn't that most dojins? - That's most dojins. - Because there was this moment where like, oh, these girls are wearing skirts. They're such sluts. And I'm like, all right. - These femoids. - All right, okay, geez. - How dare they? - I know what I'm getting myself into.

I mean, look at the main character. He's just, he's like- - Okay, okay. I guess before we get into it, Joey, do you want to explain why you chose this one? - Yeah, why did you choose this one? - Why did you choose this one? - Okay, so literally, I'll admit, this was the part where I was like, fuck, I don't know what to do for the third one. - Oh, okay. - But, but,

- I like everything by Akatsuki Mito, who's like this artist. So honestly, any one of his could have been on this list. - Right. - But I figured like probably the least weird one for Connor would be this one. - The least weird one? - The least weird one. - I feel like this is not the least weird one. I mean, there's a few other ones. I mean, it's not that bad.

- Not bad. - No, at least weird out of his works. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean like the other two are ones that I actually really enjoy. - Yeah. - That like immediately came off the top of my head. - You know, the one thing that I wish they would just chill out with on doujins is just how fast shit escalates. It goes from like, ooh, ooh, to like gang bang in the showers within like four pages at times.

And I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. - There's no time to fuck around. - Let this boy chill out a little bit. Let him play some video games. Be like, fuck, I just fucked, you know? Like, damn. - I don't know why you're suggesting that, 'cause you're probably gonna skip over it. - Yeah, I know, I know. But it's just like, oh God, okay. I'm like, I should've paid. Oh God, we're fucking, oh jeez.

- Give me a warning. - I actually had like out of everyone, I had the most trouble following this story. - This was really confusing. - I thought it was like a really simple story. And then like the last chapter here, I'm just like, what is going on right now? - 'Cause I'm fucking stupid. Can you explain the basic premise of the story?

- From what I understand, this guy was, okay, so again, you're not found, I want to spoil the thing 'cause you find out more earlier on, but we'll start from the start. You just kind of find this guy, kind of like a normal incel kind of,

- Basic anti-protagonist. - Basic anti-protagonist. - Wants to get revenge on all the women around him and then a girl transfers into the school who then immediately just starts- - Is a ghost. - Is a ghost and starts fucking him but then- - So only he can see her but no one else can see her. So she gives him glasses or something

that makes, yeah, she gives him some glasses. - That make all the clothes see through. - Yeah, that make all the clothes see through. So he's just looking at all these naked girls while being sucked off by this invisible girl, even though no girl can see anything sucked off. - Yeah, and also this girl immediately starts sucking him off right away. And then I hate it when they do this, when they refer to the characters, when they refer to themselves in the third person, to me, I'm like, stop that.

- What is that? - Is that what they did? - Yeah, they did that in the first, only in the first scene. I was like, oh God, please don't make this a constant thing. She's like calling herself her name, which is Charlotte, I think. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - She's like, Charlotte is happy. And I'm like, oh for fuck's sake. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, she calls herself third person. - Admittedly, it's been a while since I read this one. - I was hoping you'd bring more context into it. - Okay, but I remember the reason why I picked this one is because it literally has every tag.

- I guess. - That's what I enjoy about it. Like you get the best of, I was about to say both worlds, every world, every multiverse. - There's a lot.

- So he fucks the ghost blow job and apparently no one else can see. - Even though he's like clearly not. - Yeah, I'm like this guy is literally nutty. Are you telling me? - And she's like, are you okay? - Yeah, like as if no one would notice that you're, you know, come on. - To be honest, that sounds fucking hilarious. - It's hard to believe that it's as attractive 'cause there's,

there's no way I could be like, oh, that's hard. That could be me. Like, no, it could never ever be me. And not that I would ever want to go sucking. I don't want Casper sucking me off. But you know, it's kind of, you know what I mean? - Basically like the first chapter just kind of reminded me of like some porn spinoff of Bunny Girl Senpai, right? - Yeah, yeah. - You know where he's in the library and he sees Mai for the first time and no one else can see him. This is basically just that, you know?

- This is that if it was R18. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - I know I've watched "Sentai" so I know this shit exists, but there was one piece of dialogue as well where like the bully girls who are like attractive or whatever. - Oh, the gals, right? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

they ask him for money and that's so inexcusable that in return, he's gonna fuck them. That's how he's gonna get back at them. And I'm like, what the fuck is this logic? - It's in so long. - I know, I know. - Bro, she just literally asked you for a tenner. What do you mean? Like, come on. I don't think it's that bad. - How dare you? - Okay, now he become horny Casper the ghost. He goes invisible. - Oh yeah, that's why he goes invisible.

- I was not following the story at all. - So then what happens is, is that he, the girl, the Charlotte ghost girl then is like, well, don't worry homie, I got you and starts like drugging the other people in the class that make them horny. - Oh yeah, she does do that. - And then he starts fucking them. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then she introduces like new power-ups. This is like the fastest PS2 game. - That's what I'm saying man, like it's every tag. - And then he's like, hold up, but now you can drug them and then I'll give you invisibility drugs. And then it's like, but you only got 30 minutes. And then he starts fucking like the whole school.

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And then they find out and then they don't care. And then they carry on fucking. And then this just goes insanity. And literally the whole school is being fucked by this guy within like, I'm literally 10 minutes into the story. And this is what's going on. I can't think, what is happening? Which girl is which? I don't know which, they all have the same hairstyle. Wait, is this girl Robin? Wait, which one's the girl? What is happening? - It was at this point where like, you know when there's like so many girls that all of them just start blending in together. And you're just like, I don't even know who you're fucking anymore. - Yeah, right?

And then where the fuck did this Willy Wonka candy come from? Where everyone's just fucking horny now. Where does it come from? Where's the backstory to that? - There's no backstory. - And then later on, we find out that the main girl who he wanted to fuck the whole time was some poor homeless girl that he was speaking to in the start. - Oh, the student council girl. - Yeah, that he got made fun of for talking to. And then the girl wishes that they never met

- Or he misses the- And then his doll comes to life and that's the one he's fucking and she brings the drugs. What is going on? - That's what confused me. It was that chapter where the doll starts talking and I'm just like, have I just skipped over a chapter? - This is literally like Lord of the Rings when you miss like one page, you're like, hold up, did I just miss the whole, did I miss the whole story? - You missed the whole point of the story. - I need to go back 20 pages. - It feels like I just got a Shyamalan twist without having a Shyamalan movie.

- Every page is a soundbar. - I can't keep up with it. I'm just like, what is going on? But like, there'll be like two moments I'm like, that's hot. But then what is going on? - Okay, okay. What I didn't understand was, okay, so was the main girl just,

was she wearing a wig the entire time? Was that a twist? - I didn't understand. - She's a real bald bitch. - Like my weave. - He shows up at this house and he's just like, what's the girl's name again? Like Charlotte. He's just like, Charlotte? And it's a girl with black hair. And then Charlotte fucking runs away and starts putting on a wig, right? - Yeah. - Am I following this correctly?

- This was like the second to last chapter, right? - I thought it was just like, you know what? I honestly got very confused. I'm not gonna lie. There's multiple times, I reread this ending like four times and I still didn't understand what was happening. And then like, they just pull like, you know, he literally, it's just the sheer like,

how it just changes like completely. It literally ends on like a gang bang and then the next panel, it's like, you could hear the Anahata music playing. But really there's a sad backstory as to why he's fucking everyone. It's like, oh, get the fuck out of here. What is this? I don't give a fuck. - Not gonna lie, I chose this one because I knew you guys would react like this because it's so ridiculous that I just love it.

- Well, you know that Shonen trope where like the villain gets defeated and then after the villain's defeated, you finally see his backstory. That's like, that doesn't belong in a hentai. You can't just fuck a girl and then just show her backstory after she gets fucked, okay? Like I need this context before the fucking happens.

- It's like putting a backstory in the middle of a fight. It's just like, why now? Why now? You couldn't have waited till afterwards? - I'm not gonna lie, some of these are blend, no, it's blending into my head. And it just ends. How does this one end? - It ends with this random fucking side story of someone- - With the marriage? - With the marriage. - I was like, what is happening? - I didn't recognize any of these characters. - None of these characters look the same. - It wasn't even the main fucking character. - But they just fuck.

They just fuck for some reason, even though he's just cheated right before his wedding day or some shit. He like cheats right before his wedding day. Like the whole story is like, they're a fan club of him, I think. They're a fan club of the ghost that fucked, like the main protagonist, the incel guy, they make a fan club of him in the side story. But I don't recognize any of these characters. - No, no. - And then two of them are getting married. - And it's not even the men going,

- It's a different girl. - And then he cheats on her right before the day of. And then there's a whole scene of does anyone object to the marriage? And they were like, "I do."

It's like this shit is insanity. It's like, I didn't even know what to critique. - I don't regret writing this one. - There's so much shit happening that I'm like, what do I even begin to critique? Because there was just way too much shit going on. It's like someone, he literally pulled up every genre and he was like, "Bet." - Yeah, that's exactly what you did. - It's like, is there a genre where it's like, you know,

- Shout at the wedding, no. Stop the marriage, is that a tag? That could be a tag. - Yeah, it probably is. - Stop the vote. - Stop the count. - Stop the count. - My favorite anti-tag, stop the count. - That is this tag, it's just stop the count, right? 'Cause he's fucked so many girls now that he can't even count how many girls he's fucked.

- To me, like I said on the hentai episode, there has to be some kind of story in there. And there was moments- - Oh, now you care about story, huh? - And hentai, I do, yeah. I need a little bit of story. - This is the only time when- - Some of them, it might shock you that I enjoy later. But this one was just like,

"What the fuck is happening? "It's a dumb ass story. "Shit keeps getting weirder and weirder." Not in a funny way like that one hentai where people start shooting each other in this dubstep. There's no dubsteps going on with these panels. Dubstep would have gone great with some of these scenes, frankly. I wish there was a built-in like dubstep. - You could have just gone onto YouTube and just dubstepped as you read it. - Honestly, this is the kind of, yeah, it's literally the kind of doji where I put on Skrillex in the background and it'll be well-paced like Skrillex. - Honestly, like reading this, I feel like my boner got whiplash.

- Yeah. - With the amount of shit that was happening. - True, true. - You're just like- - You did got a workout after that. It's just like, "Wep, ep, ep, ep." - Every time you're like, "I'm into this." It's like, "No, no, no." - No, no, no, okay. It's like you start getting into it, "Nope, new tag, okay. Well, I guess I'll just, nope, okay, new tag, okay." And I'm just like, "Okay, what is the theme to this? What was the author trying- - What was the vision? - What was the author trying to say with this? - This is literally what tags you want, yes.

This is what this is. - It's terrible, it's fucking terrible. - I know to me it needed like, it needed, okay, this is gonna sound so fucking pretentious. It needs something to connect all the dots, right? - No, I honestly,

- I'm gonna agree with you. - Oh my fucking God. Are we agreeing on something Connor? My fucking God. Trash taste first. - This felt like just 10 doujins that have been like, let's just fucking ram them into one. We got these sexy girls that I don't want to redraw or in different ways, like shoving them into one. - You know what this felt like? This felt like it was like if the MCU had one recurring character in every movie,

- Right, but then it was just like, it was one continuous narrative, but it's because every movie genre is so fucking different. You just don't know what the fuck's going on. You can't follow anything. - It's like playing all the MCU movies at once. - I gave this one a,

- I originally wrote down seven, but that can't be right. I'd give it like a five really. - Oh, we're doing scores as well. - I would've given it, personally, I'd give it a five. - Is this one got an anime adaptation? Like a hentai adaptation? - I don't think so. - I don't think so. - I don't think so. I don't think anything by Akatsuki Minato has gotten an anime. - I don't even know the authors. - I guess before we move on though, what did you think of the art?

- It's fine, it's pretty good. The art's pretty intense. I mean, I feel like there's a lot more fluids going on in the doujins and the anime adaptations. - Oh yeah.

- Yeah, I was like, it's pretty damn good. I mean, I can't fault that. - He's a really good artist. - The art was good. - I don't think there was any of these doujins where the art put me off except, I liked all of them actually. I'd say all of them had their merits. - That's good. - So like in his other work, she said this one was one of the least weird ones. What's so weird about his other works? What happens in his other works if you can remember? And Ashley, can you put on the air conditioning right now? 'Cause I'm getting a bit heated.

- Mentally and physically right now. - So there's another one when I was like thinking of what the last one is, right? I was like, all right, let me go through my favorite artists and see if there's one I can remember. And then I got to his works. And one of them I wanted to recommend was one called Lingua Franca, which is also done by him. And again, this is a while since I've read this one, but basically,

oversimplified premise is guy and a girl flying a plane across an island and they crash land onto said island. And that island has this secret civilization of all these like Amazoness girls.

- This is a Futurama episode. - And the guy gets kidnapped by that civilization because he's the first male that they've seen in like over a hundred years. - Death by Snoo Snoo. - This is literally the Futurama episode. - It's literally Death by Snoo Snoo. - Oh my God. - But then you find out there's like this like alien species that has been controlling that civilization for the longest time. - That's Futurama. - Is it? - Yeah, there's a robot controlling them.

- I do not remember that part. - That Bender like makes out with. - I can't believe Futurama ripped off. - This is literally a Futurama. - I can't believe Futurama ripped them off like that. Season desist incoming.

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I mean, if you had to give this a rating, what would you give it then?

- Top of your head, eh? - I'd say like six or seven. - Really? - Yeah. It's good, but it's not my favorite of his. - I think the best part of this was the art. - Yeah. - The ending.

and the fact that it ended, honestly. - The ending just made me confused. - I did not. And I don't like it when they put a one shot with totally different characters that's like 10 pages. That just confuses me. I'm like, wait, should I be, wait, what's going on? - The bonus content. - I hate it when they do that. It confuses me to death. - Well, that's like the bonus content you get from buying the full book. - Right. - Rather than just reading in magazine. - Right. - I'll give it a five. - It was like- - That's a pass.

- That's a pass. - I've seen like a lot of hentai like this where it's just like, all right, let's just get into the fucking as fast as possible. What is the premise? All right, premise done. How many girls can this fuck in one single sitting? - Yes. - Yeah. And that was just this hentai. I mean, it was good. It was good. - I'll admit, even though I recommended it, it's nothing special. - Okay. - I just really liked the art. - You were just gross. - No, no, no. I just really liked the artist and how,

and how fucking ridiculous and like, just like his passion for just being like, Finn up with every tag that I can. It's like, I respect it. - I respect it. - All right, what's the next one? - Succubi's supporter. - Oh yes, yes, yes. Which one do you think this is? - Whoever chose this knew me well, I'd say. I think I have this as Joey here. - Okay.

- It's mine. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - This one could have gone either way. - Yeah, you know what's funny is that this is one of three that I've read before. I was gonna put it in until Garnt sent me his list. - Dude, it's a classic. - It is like one of the top rated ones. - I think it's one of the most famous doujinshis, like long form doujinshis of all time. - I see why. - And for good fucking reason. - Art is great, story's great. - Art is great, story's great.

- Blow jobs? - Very good, very good. - It will blow your fucking mind. - So essentially how the story starts is there's just a guy who doesn't have a job chilling on a bench and then succubi's come up to him, kind of like a hot singles in your area ad. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - With IRL. - With IRL. - They just come up to him, they're like, "Hey, do you want a job helping us succubuses?" And he's like, "Oh, I don't know what that is, but okay, sure." - What's a succubus? - To give a bit more context, so this world,

has like succubi or succubus have integrated into the human society. So like they're not this mythical creature anymore. So like a lot of most of the population of the world has some succubus blood in it, right? - That's right. - And the science is that the more succubus blood that's in a guy, the less tasty their-

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I am being held at gunpoint, but it's because I'm a gamer and I play games. - Back to the show gamers. - And of course our main guy here is one of like 90, like one of the 0.1% of the population left. - That is just pure human. - That is just pure human blood, right? Pure, no succubus blood in this family tree.

And of course the job he's given is to basically just like provide an all you can eat buffet. That's the best way I can provide. - One man buffet. - One man versus the world.

- I mean, I liked this one. It was very good. How can you not like this one? - This is one of the least offensive ones. - What guy wouldn't want this? You're just a piece of meat, you know? - Yeah, yeah. One thing that like, 'cause this artist I feel is probably like the best artist when it comes to drawing blow job scenes. I mean, this doujinshi in general is just 90% blow job, right? I think there's like one sex scene in it and it lasts like two, three pages or something.

- It's mostly like- - It's mostly blowjobs. - Yeah. - So clearly we know what this artist likes.

- This is like, it's like literally the blow jobs you wish you were given. Like if I could give this manga a summary, it's pretty much that. I mean, yeah. I mean, what is not to like about this? Like I said, like the god tier art positions are fantastic. - Yeah. - Fantastic. - Okay, here's the question. Do you think this would translate well into a hentai? - Yeah, dude. If fucking pink pineapple made this, hell yeah, dude. I'm there. - Wait, did this not get a hentai?

- No. - No, they got State at Home Succubus got one. - Oh, that's right. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other one got one. - The other one got it, yeah. - And I don't know, like what I think wouldn't translate well is that the fucking blow job scenes here are so intense. I couldn't see it translating well.

- It might be able to be done, I don't know. Maybe science will advance and we'll get good technology to be able to animate that. - It'd be like a 20 minute BJ scene. - So yeah, they have this story where, okay, so they just start fucking him and then apparently his PP is so good that they're like, "We made a website about your dick."

- They made him go viral, didn't they? They made him go viral. - They were like, "Oh, by the way, we've put your dick online. Don't worry, by the way, we haven't shown your face. We wouldn't do that." - Yeah, of course. - "But your dick's famous now to all the other sucky bi in the world." And then like, "Oh, okay. There's more sucky bi in this world, okay." And then they hold a,

an award show, not an award show, like I just- - Like an idol handshake. - It's an idol handshake thing where you can come and instead of handshake an idol, you can suck the dick. - Yeah, yeah, so these succubus, they're like hundreds of succubus show up to this handshaking event where- - Cock shaking event. - Yeah, yeah, where they get, where they pay an amount of money to get like five minutes

- To milk the cow, right? That's the best way to describe it, right? - Yeah, pretty much. - That was probably my favorite chapter. I'm just like, that was one fucking intense chapter. - Yeah.

'Cause normally I'm like, I'm not into like the whole harem angle of it, but it was so like, the concept was so overdone and the art was so great. And it was just, some of the scenes were so fucking intense that I'm just like, yeah, that's hot. All right, that's hot. - It's very good. Very good stuff. - Getting flashbacks. - This is one where it's like, if I'm suffering to like, you know, pick one,

- This is the comfort food. This is the one that I always go back to. - Yeah, I mean, the reason I picked this one is because like out of every doujinshi, if I were to pick one where I'm introducing someone to like the world of doujinshi and what it's like, then this one's just like an all rounder in every category, right? - This is the fun. - It don't miss, it don't miss.

- This is the fucking Naruto of hentai, okay? It's the gateway drug, okay? - It's the gateway drug! - It's the gateway doujinshi, okay? - The code geos. - I mean, yeah, because like the content, like the tags are so inoffensive where it's like, it's not too weird where it's like, oh, I'm not really into that. Like everyone's into fucking BJs. Like who doesn't love blowjobs, right? - Who wouldn't want three succubuses? I mean, you know. - This is such a god I wish that were me doujin.

- And it's okay, right? 'Cause it's succubuses, right? So if you're not too early, that's like great. They like that. That's what they want. They want more of them. - Yeah. - More for them. - No disappointment. Oh God. - Yeah, I mean, what I liked is that they gave context to, you know normally like a hentai protagonist can orgasm like an ungodly amount of times.

- Yeah, I like the fact that they gave it a reason for him to be able to orgasm that amount of time, which is just like, if you feed on the- - They have pheromones or something. - They have pheromones and if you like feed on their spit or something. - Yeah, it's always the saliva. - Yeah, if you swap body fluids, then it's just like this,

- And the semen is like an aphrodisiac for the succulents. That's like a twofer. - Never ending cycle. - Oh God. The perfect system doesn't exist. - In this story after they have this whole handshaking event, as they like to call it, they put his face online anyway. They're like, "Come guys, look how amazing this guy is." And then suddenly a fucking Sundari Loli shows up and I'm like, "What's all this?" Why are you getting in the way of my hentai?

- I'm like, because I didn't know which one of you did this, right? That was what tilted it in the end. I was like, fuck. - Oh yeah, this bitch, I remember. - Yeah, I remember first reading that. And then she's like, "Hello, I am the mother." - Yeah, and then I was like, literally the headset meme of like taking the headset off like,

- You had it, you had it. Why did you introduce a fucking lolly? It was so good. - Because what's so funny is that she's technically a lolly milf, right? - Both worlds.

- Everybody wins. - Literally, I wasn't even wearing a headset, but I metaphorically pulled one off for that meme. I'm like, fuck this shit. - Just did the movement. - Fuck. It was so, oh God, it was so perfect. I was enjoying life, it was great. And then this happened and it ruined it for me.

- It was great. - There's no pleasing, even with the most inoffensive Trojan, there's no pleasing this man. - I just didn't like, and she got a whole own section. I was like, no one else got their own section. Why do you get your own section? They do later on, but at this point, no one else had their own section at this point. Why does the fucking Lolly who just showed up looking like a fucking Bratz doll get to have a whole fucking 20 pages

"What's this? I don't want this." I'm like fucking speed running this shit, trying to get it over with. Like, when is anything else gonna happen? And then luckily, luckily it saved itself. It brought out the big guns. - The next chapter, right? - The next chapter, yeah. - And then suddenly they introduced, they're like, "Oh, by the way, there's a union for Sakebases." Because of course there is.

- And they have a headquarters. - Yeah, he gets shipped off to like the fucking UN or something. - Yeah, the fucking UN of succubuses. He gets shipped off and then they're like, "By the way, succubuses have been stopping wars for generations because we fuck people into submission. So no wars because everyone is happy because we fucked them." And it's like, oh, okay. I mean, I guess that makes sense. - Of course. - Gotta introduce some world building somewhere. - You can't have wars if you're fucking

- Yeah, I really liked that woman. She was great. She was very attractive. I very much liked her. - She looks like a mill. - Oh yeah, she does. I thought she was right up my alley. I was like, this is great. - You do look like an office lady tag kind of person. - Because she was also like, "Oh no, I don't want it, don't want it." But then she did want it. - Out of context, Connor. - No, no, no!

- But it was obvious the whole time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Fuck. - Yeah, of course. - Because we're in a dojo. - Wouldn't have been such a Shyamalan twist where they introduce her and she's like, "I don't want any." It's like understandable. - I wanna watch a porno where the plumber comes and just fixes something and then just leaves and then she just masturbates. I want that. - That's very avant-garde. - Subvert my expectations. Give me something, throw me a curve ball.

- We're deconstructing porno now. - Yeah, exactly. - Do it. - Yeah, but I mean, I think I wrote down, I said, this would have been a 10 out of 10 if they didn't have the fucking lolly. The lolly intrusion as I called it. - The lolly intrusion, oh my God. - Yeah, I mean, I wrote the art is God tier. Like pretty much everything was God tier. I'm not fucking around with eight out of 10. I mean, yeah, it was probably my favorite out of all of these in terms of,

- Could I not do it? - Yeah. - That's definitely the- - That does not surprise me. - Despite being just pictures, I think I could manage. If I scroll really fast. - The first thing I did when I looked at like the list with Gart and mine is like- - This is gonna be Conestoga. - This is gonna be Conestoga. - You guys know my taste now. You know my taste. - I'm like, this man likes vanilla. This is the most vanilla he's gonna like.

- It's not so much vanilla as so much as so it's just universally agreed that this is God tier doujin. - Oh yeah. - It's one of the best doujins ever made. Some of the best art ever made. Hasn't yet gotten a hentai adaptation, which I'm just like, how? How has this not gotten hentai adaptation? - I would appreciate an adaptation to this. Maybe all the studios are scared.

- Oh yeah. - It's like a VIP. - And a queen bee cracking their nose. - Dude, if queen bee adapts this, I would cry so hard. - Let me take a shot of this. - Just comes from behind the tree. - Because what sucks about queen bee is that when you, it's like every queen bee doujin that seems to get adapted is like a doujin I respect like close to this level, right? It's a god tier doujin that gets passed around and you're like, brilliant.

- That's fucking fantastic. - I mean, I feel like when I see people in the comments of these websites being like, "Oh God, it's Queen Bee." I'm just like, I don't even know who this Dojin is. So I could have never been disappointed anyway. - What is this? - And frankly- - I don't even know who you are. - I literally don't even know who you are. So like, it's not a problem. But some of them I still manage, you know, Queen Bee does a good enough job sometimes. - A good enough job. - Right, you get the job done, you know? The task can be complete. But yeah, I mean, this is just great. So I highly recommend if you haven't read "Dojins," go and read it.

- Wow, Connor recommending doujins? - Wow. - You know what I would prefer Queen Bee did actually, instead of what they do now. I would prefer that if Queen Bee animated their doujins or animated their hentai the same way that

- Animated doujins are made? - Kind of like, what was that house, the Yakuza husband one that got animated. - Oh, "Way of the House Husband." - "Way of the House Husband." - Yeah. - You know what I'd- - Like slideshows? - Yeah. - Not slideshows, but just like an animated comic. I would actually prefer that style over- - Where they just copy each frame. - Where they just copy each frame, right? Because to me, like a motion comic would give way more of like,

then whatever the fuck Queen Bee do. Like please Queen Bee, please. I can handle that. Just give me a motion. - Call me Queen Bee. - How much? How much you need? 20 bucks? - 20 bucks, yeah, it's your whole budget. - It's gotta be. Fuck, you know? Yeah, I mean like, I wrote eight out of 10 'cause of lolly, but I'll probably give it a nine. It would have been a 10 out of 10 if there was no lollies, honestly. I'm not joking, that's serious.

- Would you be interested in his other works then? - Are these this good? - Yeah. - This artist is really good. - Most of his work is very blow job oriented. Like he's just a fucking blow job. - I always think, you know, blow job is like the best

visually part, like the visually like sexual thing, blowjob is probably the most attractive looking I think when done right. - Yeah. - It's like a, what's it, a macaron? There's a little fucking sweets. You know what I'm going with this? You always see those sweets, right? You're like- - Are you comparing blowjobs to macarons? - Because you look at a macaron, right? You're like, that looks amazing. That looks fucking amazing. I really, really want that. And they never, ever, ever taste as good as they look.

And that's how I feel about blue. - Really? - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah. - Why? - Because in hentai- - I can feel the salt. - In hentai, bro, they make it look like fucking WrestleMania, SmackDown, whirlwind on the dick. It's not like that in real life. It's like, oh shit, ah, ooh. You know, you just say, ooh.

- You've been getting shit blow jobs. - Is that what it's like? That's not what it's like. - That's what it looks like in the entire list. It's very aggressive, very aggressive. But I mean, actually a lot of work sometimes, you know, sometimes it's awkward. You just realize that you're just standing there and you're just like, oh fuck, it's awkward, isn't it? - Oh, so much work, you know? - I mean, it's just like, sometimes like, what's so great about blow job is that there's literally no pressure to do anything, you know, right? 'Cause you know. - Sometimes I get that moment where like,

I get distracted for one second and I get taken out of it. I'm like, fuck, fuck, I gotta do my taxes. Fuck, now I gotta pretend like I'm still there. I'm still in the zone. Fuck. - Oh yeah. - Oh, oh, oh, fuck. I really gotta file those taxes though. Fuck, I really forgot about that.

Oh God, I can't do it now, can I? That's gonna be really awkward if I go and do those now. - Babe, can I get my laptop real quick? Just gotta follow these taxes. - It's not interactive enough. But yeah, no, it's good, it's good, it's good. - All right, next one. - It was the, I already know who this one was. This is fucking degenerate.

Life consultation after 10 years. Okay, be me guys, be me. You sit there, right? I only know, right? I only know one thing. I know the word oromo, right? And I know it means incest.

I know Garnt likes incest for some reason. - Guys, as I said before, Oromo isn't an incest anime. - It's just an incest anime. - This is an anime with incest anime. This is very much an incest ocean. - I have not watched Oromo. I opened this thing. - Don't worry, you don't have to.

- It's literally, I feel like I understand the story of the anime through this. - Yeah. - Which is very concerning because fuck this is weird. - Whatever you're thinking about is probably what happened in "Orima." - There is so many things in this anime that made me like push my desk chair back a little bit and go like,

- Yeah, because this one I saw on the list. I was like, oh, I've never heard of this one. I'll check it out. - Fucking open up, it's just Oromo fan book. - Oh no, no, no, my one just, because I read mine in Japanese. So my one just said, "Jūnen go no jisei soudan." And I was like, oh, okay, this one sounds interesting. First page is literally just like Kirino with massive teeth.

- Okay, I knew this one. - You did this to fucking troll, didn't you? - No, no. - No, you fucking did. - No, no, no. - Don't tell me you like this. - This is to me probably the hottest like series doujin I've ever read. - Why? - Okay, because like I purposely avoided parodies.

- Okay, I thought we, you know- - Because if that was the case, I would have recommended like three of my favorites are all parodies. - Yeah, so this is like the only parody, like parody doujin that is on the list. But like, I didn't know if we were avoiding parodies or not, but I just wanted to talk about this no matter what. - We could do a parody episode in future. - And then it's like, 'cause like most parody doujins, they last for like one chapter. They last for like 20 pages. - Yeah, it's like 10, 30 pages. - Yeah, yeah, this one lasts, this one's an entire fucking story. - It's like 220 pages.

- I felt like I was on like a fucking like big brother episode. Like where this was just fucking never ended. It just never fucking ended. - Not gonna lie. - It just kept getting fucking weirder and weirder. - With this one, okay. Admittedly, I don't like "Oriima" like the show, but I think "Oriima" doujins are hot as fuck. - Yeah. - All right. But here's the thing. - Why? - This one, because all the characters are hot.

- But here's the thing, right? Here's the thing with this particular one. I've read a lot of "Ori and Maud" I've never read this one. This one I was like, okay. First half I was like, okay, this got kind of an interesting story. Like you kind of get to see like the backstory of like the actual characters. - It gets real fucking weird. - And then second half, like,

- She just like turns into a yandere. - So can you walk me through the story? - Okay, okay. - 'Cause I had to pull up the fucking Oromo wiki to understand who the fuck everyone was. - Clues notes of Oromo. - It doesn't try and fucking ease you into these characters. - No, no, no. - You know Oromo, you're jacking off to Oromo. - You know why you're reading this. - Okay, so to explain the, I guess the basic premise of Oromo as well.

- So Kirino and Kyousuke is the main sibling pair. - Brother and sister, yeah. - And then all you need to know is also he has a childhood friend who I don't even remember her fucking name. - The glasses girl. - The glasses girl. - The one who's the wife in this story. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Not mommy, what the fuck's her name? - Natsumi or something else. - I'll look it up. - Look it up. But basically those are like all you need to know.

about the characters in this, right? So in the ending of the original anime, Kuro no confesses to Kiyosuke that which was like a fucking 180 twist from like everything that was built up before, right? And then, you know, they have a few dates together and then they decide- - With his sister. - Yeah, with his sister. Which, you know, they're not blood related, so whatever. - So it doesn't count, clearly.

- Literally they can't keep getting away with this. The no you, the like brother or sister not blood related, fuck man. - Oh, shut up Connor. - Shut up. - Look, you recommended mother's no breast? - Yeah, exactly. - That's literally a guy and his step mom. That's just incest with an age gap, Connor. - It's different, it's different. - No, no, no, no, no, it's not, it's not. - She went into it. It's a whole different, it's a different thing. - Legally it's different.

- It depends if it's like the stepbrother, I don't know. I could be like, maybe, maybe, but no. But this one's like, we're literally, they're literally brother and sister and this is literally just the fucking card, they slither in by the way, not blood related.

- God damn, what the fuck's her name? - Just Google. - But this was just fucking weird. So explain the story of this. - Okay, so I'll explain it. - Manami. - Manami, okay. So this is like kind of like a fan story set 10 years after the- - I got that, I understood that. - Yeah, 10 years, that's why it's called 10 years after consultation or something like that, right? So this is set 10 years after the ending of the anime where it has like a slightly different ending

So in this version, Kirino and Kyousuke sleep with each other, right? And their family finds out and Kirino just gets fucking banished, right? And they don't see each other for 10 years. - Understandable. - Understandable, banish the fuck out of it. - Parents doing what parents should do. - Exile your kid if they fuck your sister, I guess. - And so I guess this is set 10 years afterwards where she comes back

and they're both now married. He has married his childhood friends, which is like in the anime, like Minami is like, she's built up as like the plain girl, right? She doesn't really have any special features. - The girl that will probably never win. - Yeah, the girl that was never on the winning list to begin with, but she's built up as just the plain girl. She's the childhood friend, right? And in this version, she's the one that he ended up marrying.

And Kirino has also apparently after 10 years married someone else as well. And this is the first time they've met after 10 years. And they think, you know, they're kind of like testing the waters to see if, you know, they still have feelings for each other. And it turns out- - Spoilers.

- They do. - And it turns out they do, I guess. - Who tests the waters with your brother and sister to see if you still have feelings together? That feels like a very dangerous game. It's like Russian roulette. - Welcome to the incest tag, bro. Literally everything in this tag is that. - What if I just like put my dick in your hand? Let's just see if I get hot. That's a good test. - What if we just fart? How weird would that be, right? - Okay, so to explain my tastes, right?

To explain what I like, why I thought this was like great. Because for one, most parody doujins, they just like, it's the most vanilla fucking storyline like ever, right? It's just, here's these two characters, they sex. You are watching it because it's the characters you recognize with this. What I liked about this is that it took the concept of Orimo and it like built on it and start like started its own fucking story line. - I do appreciate that element. - Yeah, it was like, this is,

- This was actually a really story heavy doujin. - Yeah, I mean, unfortunately I couldn't really appreciate that 'cause I didn't know fucking anything about the show. I was just like, this bitch crazy. - No, yeah, no, I did like the fact that it built on the law of the original series that it was based off of, but just, it took like a fucking depressing fucking turn. - Oh, it was fucking depressing as shit, right? - Yeah, it's like Kirino turns Yandere and then like threatens Kyousuke and then Mamimi gets like, like,

- Yeah, it's like this whole thing just kept getting weirder and weirder. So, you know, be me, I don't know anything about this. I don't know anything about this series. All I know is that he got banished for fucking his sister 10 years ago. And then they're like, "Oh yeah, we're gonna meet again." Immediately fuck. It's like no fucking downtime. We just made eye contact, we fuck it. - Yeah, of course. - Oh, she's like, "I don't even love my husband, I love you." And it's like,

- Oh Jesus. - Well, it's because they both know what they want, right? - Yeah, I just say it's- - No words necessary. - And I guess like for me, if I were to explain my taste, what I find hot is like when a taboo gets broken, right?

It's not the incest, okay? - No, I was about to say, I'm pretty sure that's the one reason every person who likes the incest taxis. - But like what I hate about most incest fucking hentai or whatever, it's like one girl says Oni-chan, incest. I'm just like, get that shit out of here. I don't give a shit.

I don't give a shit about that. - So you need the full backstory of their brotherly and sister love to be crushed in front of you. - Well, it's not just between like step-siblings, step-mother, step-sons. Like I like, you know, two co-workers who know they shouldn't get together. They get together, that's hot. Like a teacher-student relationship, that's pretty fucking hot as well because it's- - No, I understand that. - It's like, what I find hot is like,

two characters who know they shouldn't get together, but they're too hot for each other to be able to stop it. And they do it even though they know it's wrong. And I don't know, man, to me, like breaking a taboo is fucking hot. - I totally get that. I think that's hot as well. But then there's the scene where she just goes loony. Like she just loses her mind. - For every moment I thought maybe this could be hot. There's just something happened where I'm like, God damn it, this is fine.

- So there's this whole bit where he's having sex with the girl. - Which girl? - There's only two girls. - There's only two girls, yeah. - The other girl, the boring one, as you said. - Oh, the wife. - Yeah, and then she pulls out just a strap on for some reason. And it just comes out of nowhere. And it feels like, if this feels like, it just felt like the DLC being tacked on at the end.

This was so rushed in and happened for like one second and then it was never mentioned again. It was never shown again. She just had it with her. She was ready to go. - You know what I love about that scene with the fucking strap on scene where she like puts it into the wife and she's like, "It's too big." And then he's like, "This is the same size as my big brothers." I'm like, "Was he never serious with you?" And I'm like, "Oh my God, that's a burn."

- She just got fucking burned. - This is the moment that like really puzzled me the most. I just didn't understand why. So, you know, he fucks his step sister or whatever sister and has this whole thing and they have this thing and he cheats on his wife and they're cheating on his wife and they have this whole weird scene where she fucks his wife and stuff. I don't really get why that's happening, but.

- At the end, she's like, "By the way, I told mom again that we fucked." And I'm like, "Why? Why did you even- - I completely forgot about that as well. - I was just sitting there like, "Did you really need to just tell your mom that you fucked your brother again? What are you trying to achieve here? What is this? What is this? Who does this?" - I read that and I was like, "Well, that was unnecessary." - I was like, "Well, this just went too far." Because frankly, your mom is probably just a very nice woman. - Let's be real.

- Let's be real, your mom didn't need to do this. - Your mom's getting to an older age. You gotta let her live her life peacefully knowing that you were a good son and daughter. - Just like, "Beaty doves, mom. Fuck my bra." - And then just leaves. And then leaves. - Peace. - What's wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Why did you do this?

I just couldn't fathom it. It's like you don't see this in the, you know, when you go on fucking, I don't know, one of these porn websites, Bang Bros or whatever, and there's the whole mom versus son step. Mom versus son step. There's not a whole scene at the end where you're like, okay, son, I'm going to tell dad now.

I don't wanna see that shit. Don't include that shit 'cause I already feel guilty enough for this shit. Don't include that. - This was supposed to be depressing, right? - It's meant to be a depressing doujin. - Really? - Yeah. - It's like if it was like scat porn, they're like, "Right, let's do 10 whole pages where they clean it up."

- No, let's not do that. - The aftermath. - Get the clean felt bags, get the bleach, we'll clean this place. No, I don't want to see this shit. This felt totally unnecessary. Why was this in the story? Like you finally had to wrap it up. How does this wrap it up in any way? You're making more problems. - To be honest, like right before that whole thing happened. No, no, right before that whole thing ended, in my head I was like, how are they going to end this? And then that happened, I'm like,

- Well, I mean, that's an ending. That's not the correct answer. - Okay, the ending was a bit weird. - Only that was a bit weird? - I mean, like the reason I really liked this doujin was 'cause like the first two chapters, like when it started getting a bit NTR-y, I'm just like,

- You're kind of losing me here. - They had us in the first half. - It was because to me, the first half was so fucking well done that I'm just like, okay, I'm always gonna remember this. - The art was very good. - I mean, the art was good, but to me it was the story. - Art was good and the way that they broke down the law was really good. - Because it's so fucking rare for me to find like hentai and the Jinchi that actually give a shit about the story, right?

Like most, like when you think of like, for example, most brother sister hentai, it's the most like simple shit. - It's like sister comes in, wakes up brother, "Oh no, you're hot, I guess I'll suck you off now." - And I'm just like, that's Dojin over. - Yeah, that's exactly, I'm just like, who gives a shit about that? - It's like cool. - Okay, now I got a perfect thing. I need spice with my hentai, okay?

- Incest is not spice, incest has never been spice. It's illegal. - I mean, that's why it's always fucking step siblings in hentai, right? They never go the full fuck. They never do the full Monty, right? Step siblings, step mother. - You'd be surprised. - Okay, that's not the shit I watched. - Joey's like, I can name a few.

- I can name like 10 off the top of my head. - I'll tell you what, the reason every hentai does it is because it's like that disclaimer that goes on like the beginning of every YouTube video. It's like, this YouTube video is fair use. This video is protected under fair use. Your honor, these siblings are simply step siblings. It is not illegal. - They are not blood related. They are just drawings. - Just in case you didn't hear me the first time, this episode is sponsored by GamerSups. Did you borrow anything yet?

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- The man knows his taste, man. What can I say? - I know my taste. Okay. - I respect that. - Yeah, because to me, like I said, Breaking Taboo, that is my taste. Unfortunately, it's so fucking hard because 99% of hentai when it comes to like Breaking Taboo are just like the most depraved NTR shit you can find on like God's screen up. - Why is this shit so nasty? - I don't know. I don't know. - Why is this so much of it? - So many people are into it, man. - You know, you go on like the hentai releases and nowadays it's like,

60 to 70% of it is just NTR garbage. - Yeah. - It's like, I can't nut to this. Who's nuts to this? - The majority of Japan is nutting to it apparently. - All I wanna fucking see is two people who know they shouldn't be together, but just for like one fucking- - Cheeky little rule break. - Have like a cheeky Nando's, have a cheeky little blow job here and there, you know, fucking.

- Have one or two hot nights and then just- - Mom doesn't need to know. - And then just call it a day. Unfortunately, hentai takes us as let's rip someone's life into pieces while we do this. - That's what I wasn't fond of with this one. They were like, "I'm just gonna tell mom."

- That part really fucked me up. I was like, why would you do that? - The part that made the least sense to me was just like, Kirino was just like, "I've left now, I fixed their marriage." I'm just like, "In what way have you fixed their fucking marriage?"

- The matchmaker. - I fixed their marriage by literally getting my brother to fuck me all over his house. Every part of his house. - We've had like a threesome where we're just not gonna ever be able to talk about for years. I'm not gonna be able to look at my wife in the eyes for like years to come. Jesus, imagine if we have kids, like what the fuck?

- I love how after that intense threesome scene and Kirino leaves, there's just this monologue of Kyousuke being like, "Manami and I talked it out. We're mending our wounds." I'm like-

- Oh, it's that easy, is it? Oh shit, all right, cool. - It just be like that. - We just talked it out. - It's like, babe, I know I kind of just fucked my sister and fucked you at the same time, but I think we can work through this, right? - Happy wife, happy life, right? - She's like, yeah, I'm glad. This has never happened before, right? - Looney Tunes ending.

- This is just a phase, right? - It's just a phase, yeah, totally. - It just happened one time, right? - Yeah. - Yeah.

- The DNA test results have come in. - 'Cause like when you see cheating in hentai, normally it's like the person is cheating against this fucking faceless dude that you don't see, right? It's like- - I'm not a fan of it, the character having an active part in the story. - Yeah. I mean, that's the difference between cheating and NTR, you know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And like even fucking Kirino's husband comes back at this, even though he's like a faceless fucking guy and just beats the shit out of Kyousuke.

Like where did that come from? - I love the ending scene too because he gets absolutely the shit kicked out of him and Kurosuke is just like, "Worth it." He's like, "Right, I'm still protecting Kira now." I'm just like, "What?"

- What is going on here? - How did you think that would go? How did you think that would go, huh? - But yeah, the reason this is one of my favorite series, like parody doujins of all time is 'cause of the first two chapters. The first two chapters, 10 out of 10 hot. - Hot as fuck. - That is my exact taste. - I'm not gonna lie, one thing that really did put me off, I didn't make a note of this. I'm like, why is she being like, "He, he, get me pregnant." But then be like, "Oh, no, no, no."

- That was really fucking weird. Can we admit that that's kind of weird? - Wait, wait. - Okay. - Yeah, there's a- - Dealing with your stepbrother is really pushing it, what I could accept to be like, "Oh, he hits hard." - Yeah, yeah. - But then being like, she's like, "Make me pregnant." Literally the first time she meets. And I'm like, "What am I supposed to think?

- I'm not supposed to think here. I'm not supposed to be like, "Yeah, that's hard, dude. "Impregnate your sister. "That'll show 'em. "That'll show everyone." - I think this is, you saying this now, I think this just shows that I've just been so desensitized. - You literally just fucking like, it goes right over your head. - 'Cause I feel like that's just the fucking, that's just the default in a lot of hentai, right?

- There's always that one panel in every hand sign which is like, make me pregnant or I'm going to become pregnant. - I am trying to be supportive of my friend's taste. And I'm reading this, you know? And I want to be like, good for God. But then like, it's literally, again, the amount of times I'm gonna reference the fucking headset meme where he just rips it off. It's like, I'm trying to get into this. And she's like, make me pregnant. I'm like, fuck.

- Fuck, why, why, what do you mean? - I think it's just because sometimes your tastes are like, my taste is like so specific that it's kind of like, I'm willing to look over some of like the weirdest shit or the weirder aspects of some hentai if there's like this aspect that has done like ridiculously, ridiculously well, you know? - You sound like someone who's like,

- I'm desperately digging for good hentai after you've had it all. You're like, I need to see something. - I need to feel something. - I'll forgive the weird fucking shit just for a crumb of good blowjob art. - If it scratches that one tiny itch, that's all I need. That's all I need. - This was fucking weird. I did give this one a three out of 10. - Three? - Honestly, there was very few moments where I was like, this is hot. And there's so many moments where I'm like, fucking hell.

- Fuck, like I don't even smoke and I wanted a smoke break after this. - This is a doujin read and you're like, I need a fucking smoke break after this. - I don't even smoke and I was like, fuck, I need a cigarette. Just like fucking look out my window and just be like fuck.

- But I feel like that's, to me, that's what makes a great doujin. Like if it can fucking affect you in some way, then it's, that means at least- - If it changes your life. - No, that means at least it's doing something right. It's making you feel something, right? - My dick's so numb, I'm just waiting for something to happen. It doesn't matter what, disgust, anything. I'll make it work, like anything. - My dick is numb, but my heart aches.

- Three out of 10. What'd you give this one, Joey? - I don't know, I weirdly enjoyed this one. - Yes, fuck yes! - Yeah, oh my God. - This is why we need a me on this podcast, to balance out the fucking degeneracy that we have over here. - This is how I know Joey's a brother. - I weirdly enjoyed this one. I give this like a, it's probably a seven or an eight. - God damn it. - Yeah. - Story's spicy, man. It's a spicy-ass story. - I don't know why, but this is not spicy.

- The word spice went out the window when he told her fucking mom. That was when I was like, this is not spicy. - That's like last fucking panel. You should have already nutted by then. You don't give a shit about- - I don't wanna- - He told his mom.

- I don't wanna get post-nut clarity and then also find out afterwards, he told the mom. And that's like the biggest whiplash of post-nut clarity. He'd be like, "Oh God, oh Jesus." - That's not spice, that's like a Carolina Reaper to the eye. - Oh God, what would you give this one out of 10 then for you personally? - Nine. - Oh my God. - The good parts were so good that I'm just like,

- To me, it's the most unique parody doujin I've read so far in terms of building on a premise and being able to take this premise in an anime and just make a hot situation out of it. - Just the dildo burn did it for me. That was hilarious. That was fucking hilarious. - I respectfully disagree. - Moving on. - The next one was Pisu Hame. What does that mean in Japanese? Pisu Hame.

- Hame means to fuck and peace is peace. - Oh, peace fuck. - Peace fuck. - Fair enough. - Yeah. - So the premise of this one was a strange one. There was like, I guess kind of- - Well whose do you think it is first of all? - Yours. - Yeah. - I thought it was yours. This seemed very much like a you thing. - Yeah. - But I also really, really liked the plot to this one. I really enjoyed the plot. - I love this plot. - Yeah, it's very good plot. - The plot was good. - So, okay, first of all, I did read the, I was very, very confused because it came with like a prequel

- Yeah, that's like the YouTube hook, right? Where you have like a few pages to hook in the reader. - Where it was just like a bunch of girls who had been taking photos of who were naked. And I was very confused. And then when I started reading it, I almost forgot for a second, I was reading a doujin 'cause I thought I was about to get some kind of sick fucking epic doujin about Kendo.

- Kendo? - Kendo fighting. And it very quickly became not that. Just for a second, I totally forgot that I was reading porn. I thought I had escaped into a regular manga. You have this little, the Chad woman who is this amazing Kendo player, very attractive, very beautiful. And like the simp guy who's like this very tiny, very wimpy looking character. And then,

For some reason during the story, she's like, oh, please, can you help me with something? Obviously the wimpy character's like, yes, of course, I'll help you.

So they go to the office and there's the guy who's in charge of the Kendo club. Who's engaged to the, to the girl. Is he a student? I don't know if that's a student, but he's literally built like a motherfucking whale on steroids. Like this man is absolutely tall. That's generous. Like 15 feet tall, muscular, you know? And he's like, this is my, this is my fiance. By the way, I need you to take photos of all the women at the school, the graduates, all the graduates.

naked, being fucked, anything. And then there's just so many quotes in this, which is very funny to me. And then he's like, "Oh, is that a..." The little wimpy character's like, "Oh, is it okay that we take sexual photos of the girls?" He's like, "Oh yes, all the girls have given their consent to this." Literally the extra doubt. - Extra doubt.

- Really? - Yeah, because it's a long standing tradition in the school. - It's a long standing tradition. I'm like, this is like some YouTuber cancel bait in the world. How is this? - This is a tweet longer waiting to blow up, man. - How does this become a long set? I wanna know that backstory. Who started this?

How did everyone just come to gradually- - This is a TW- - How did everyone give consent? - Yeah, how did everyone just accept this? - I feel like this needs to be like a signed form or something like this. - I really wanna know more of the story. There must be an ironclad contract to this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Release waivers out the ass. - Signed by blood. - There was so many funny,

- They have given their okay to this. That's what they say. - What I appreciate about this doujin is that I always appreciate a doujin when it takes more than 20 pages to get to the fucking. - Yeah. - Right? - I appreciate that a lot about this. - Because, because like- - I literally experienced two hours of just the worst shit. I read the RMO one before this. I was begging for something that wasn't fucking awful.

- Oh yeah. - So this was a breath of fresh air. - 'Cause the difference between a parody doujin and an actual doujin is that parody doujins, if you're a fan of the show or the series, you can skip the context 'cause you know the context. You can build on top of that. But like the real challenge with just a plain doujin is that original, you know, original Takabon or whatever is that they need to build up your investment into the story by itself with no pre-investment to any franchise or whatever. And normally that takes a long time.

And I can appreciate when he go, he went like 40 pages. He went like a whole chapter, I think. - Almost. - With no fucking. And I'm just like,

- Respect. - Respect. - Restraint, I appreciate it. - Yeah, exactly. - One thing I really liked about this one is that like the whole, I guess point is that like, obviously he's gonna fuck the main girl, but they hold off on it for so goddamn long. I appreciate that. - Wait, so did you read this whole thing? - No, I read about nearly two stories. - Two chapters? - Yeah, the first chapter was like 150 pages. - No, it wasn't. - It was like six pages.

- If you're thinking of the 500 page one, those are 16 chapters put together. - Oh, well it was, when I looked on the website, it said six stories or whatever. - Oh, okay. - So, I mean, I read up until like- - How many pages? - Which way, which goal did you get to?

- I think he actually fucked the girl. - Okay, you got further than me then. - Which is like, I think it's like 200 pages in. - Yeah. - But then there's still like 400 more after that. - Yeah. - Which I didn't understand. But I was still like, all right, this story's pretty hot because the whole premise is that he has to then go and he's recruited

- He's doing his job. - This wimpy kid is recruited to take all the naked and lewd photos, you know, and if he has to help to get the photos done, he does. So he just starts fucking everyone.

- As you do. - I appreciate the hustle. I was like, you know what? Good for him. - He was scared at first, but then he gets more and more confident. - Ticked all the boxes. It was like consensual, attractive, kid coming into his own, getting pussy. Good for him. I was rooting for him. - It's a coming of age story. - And I thought it was very attractive that she was watching the whole time, giving moral support. Who doesn't want that?

- I love the scene where she just like comes around and grabs his dick and is like, you got this. - It was like IRL Twitch chat with fucking. It was like, Pog go in, Pog take the photo. - I'm surprised you like this one. - I'm surprised you like this one as well. - I like the long game. I liked that they were reserved with a lot of things. - 'Cause this one is one of my favorite of all time. - The art style.

threw me off a little bit in the start. - It's unique, isn't it? - But then I got into it. I was like, you know what, I fuck with it. - That's exactly how I felt. - And then, you know, because obviously you can't just have the gimmick of he goes to take picture, he fucks them. It's how we get old. So then they start introducing like these fucking battles

- Yeah, that's what I liked as well. - I was like, this is so fucking dumb, but I'm here for it. - The betting battles, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So like bet on something. And so the first bet is that he has to choose what he thinks is her favorite volumes of her like lewd outfits. Am I correct? - Yeah, yeah. So she's like a gravure model who does like sexual stuff. And she's like, pick two things that I consider my best works. And he's like,

- And then if you pick them out- - I was already a super fan anyway. - And he's like, "If you lose, you throw out all of your porn. If you win, you get to fuck me." - And he gets to fuck her, so congratulations. - Spoiler alert. - There was another one where they did like wishbone breaking. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the grass. That's like a really old Japanese game. - Yeah, and then he wins, and then this,

- 20 foot Kendo man is like, "Hmm, he's so powerful. He's won two betting games. This kid's good." And it's like- - It's like, "We need more photos." - Like he literally guessed doujins and then played Wishbone, a luck game. What do you mean? And it's just like, "He might get all the photos this year." Implying that some of them don't want their photos taken, which is like, I was like, "Oh, that's a little weird, but I'll forgive him."

- Oh, forgive it. - Some of the later chapters, it does become like that. - Yeah. - I thought, you know what? Fair enough. It was, I see the vision. I appreciate the execution. All around good fun for the family.

- What I love about- - Cheers. - Yeah, cheers. - Cheers to that. - Cheers to that. - Cheers to consensual. For the most part, I think. I didn't get far enough. - I'm sad you didn't make it to like the, pretty much like the finale or like the epic part. - I might in the future. - The epic because there's like a whole, there's like three chapters. - Sell me on it. - Where there's three chapters where the Wimpy Kid, the main character,

the student council brick shit house in a wrestling match. - I knew that they were building up. It was very obvious that that was gonna be a final showdown. - And while that's happening, all of the girls that he's fucked are getting like gang banged by the entire school. And he's like, if you wanna stop this, beat me in a wrestling match. I was just like, what? - After reading all of Joey's recommendations, I figured out Joey's tastes.

Like if there's, he recommends a doujin. If there's a panel on it with more than like eight tits in one panel, that's a Joey doujin. - True. - Yeah. Yeah, you're right. - I can't, you know, I'm mad that you're right. - The more the merrier, yeah. - But like what I love about a story and a doujin like this is when like they introduce the one winning girl at the beginning, sure. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I mean, she's the hottest. - Oh, 100%. - I don't know how like doujin artists, they just know. They know I'm gonna make this girl the hottest. - There's something about a supporting girl that you can't help but root for. You're like, she is just helping. She's just doing her part. Fuck it. Literally. - It's like, they must have like a talent to be able to like,

make a girl that you know is like, just radiates best girl energy. Right? Like they just radiate best girl energy and everyone just unanimously agrees that this is best girl. And every girl is just like the losing girl. - Honestly, Shibasan Okina who's the artist, he's like a fucking amazing at that. 'Cause all of his other ones, he always introduces this like beginning girl.

And whether like she gets fucked in the beginning or right at the end, she's always ends up being the best girl. - Because throwback to the hentai episode, the one thing that I did like about that one thing that you picked, even though I didn't particularly- - Which one? - The one that was like the Edo era Japanese. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like- - That's the one. - I was at least like the fact that they took three episodes to build that shit up before they were fucked, you know? I like it when they tease you. Like, you know, 'cause,

You can go on fucking Pornhub and you can skip two minutes in and you're already at the fucking meat of it. I like it when they make you wait for it sometimes. It's like you're making me feel like these characters are worth it. You know what I mean? Because when they immediately put their pants down and these fucking two other women, I'm like, I'm not invested. You've lost me.

It's a no from me. - Yeah, I like being able to wait to see the best girl. - I'm impatient, but I'm patient. - I'm also impatient. Sometimes I'm just like, let's just skip to episode five and let's just see, okay. But I feel like the best times is when you know there's a reason to turn the next page. There's a reason to watch the next episode. It's like "Metal Gear Solid," the best is yet to come. - Don't consider the plumber turning up

- A riveting story worth me turning the fucking page. - Yeah, yeah. - What part of the house is he gonna fix? - Oh shit, is it there? Which kind of clog is it? I'm fucking hyped to see which kind of clog. Is it a grease? - I wanna see all the size wrenches he has. - Is it a grease clog or a fucking toilet paper clog? I can't wait. You know, I mean,

- I think that's the one thing that at least I can appreciate about the "Durgeon" is that you can kind of almost, if there's a story, you can kind of read it in your own pace and you can get the feel for it that you want. I can respect that. I wish that I could read it and then the moment the fucking starts, I'm like, turn on the hentai version. - Well, this one actually does have a hentai adaptation. - Yeah, I was about to say, this one does have an hentai adaptation. - You say that, is it bad? It sounds bad. - It's "Queen Bee." - Oh, I'm gonna watch it.

- All right, I'm actually curious about your opinion. I'm actually curious about your opinion now that you're gonna go from like a doujin to an adaptation of that doujin.

- That you enjoy. - Because there's another one by Shiosun Okina that I was debating on whether to recommend called "Nudist Beach," which is- - I love the "Nudist Beach," the hentai, it's great. - Yeah, yeah, that's the same guy. - Yeah, I like that one. - Yeah, that's like, and the doujin version is like one of my favorites and also Kaho's favorite. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And we like bonded over that, but like, I was like, do I recommend it? But like "Piece of Harmony" just has a better story, in my opinion. - I like the story a lot. - Yeah, and I know you like stories. - With "Nudist Beach," I was, you know, when I watched that recently, I was like, you know what?

you know when you watch something and you just know this is popular. - Yeah. - I'm like, I know this. I don't know anything about hentai or doujin community and what the fuck they get up to, but I watched that and I'm like, I bet this is famous as fuck. Just from watching this, I'm like, this shit is too good. - Who adapted "Nudist Beach" again? - Queen Bee. - No, it wasn't. It was good adaption though. - Was it? I thought it was Queen Bee. - No, I swear I watched that and it was good. - I don't think it was Queen Bee either. - Really? - I swear it was a good adaptation. I swear it was. - Let's see. - But I gave this one.

What did I give this one?

- I usually want a nine out of 10. - Really? - I genuinely, I dig the story. - Honestly, that's really surprised me. I thought you would hate this one. - Cheers to that. - Cheers to that. - Cheers to that. - Look at us, look at us. - Recommending each other. - We are two for four, I think. - Two for four. - Two for four right now. - We're slowly converting him. We're slowly converting him. - I'm not gonna say I'm gonna go home and read this shit or it's my preferred. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. - But if you're gonna sit here and force me to read this shit, I'll say it. - Okay, here's a question then.

Like if you had just experienced this through the hentai, would you have watched through the story? - Yeah, for sure, for sure. - Really? - I mean most hentai watch the story. - Really? - 'Cause it's like 19 minutes. It's not a big ask.

- That's the most un-Conner thing I've heard in the history of this podcast. - As well, okay. You know when you, I don't know if you do this, right? Okay, I gotta ask. When you're doing your business or something. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - If you finish your business and there's like six minutes left, do you just save it for another time, the rest six minutes, or do you just keep watching and see what else happens? - Save it, I save it. - Yeah, me too, me too.

- I'm like, this was so good that I don't want to spoil the rest. - Yeah. - God damn Connor. I've never connected to you on such a spiritual level before until you just said that moment. - It takes restraint, but I'm like, you know what? No, I could skip ahead and find the best part, but no. - This is fresh content for the next time. - Connor, I agree. - Oh shit, God agrees with me. - Pog, Pog.

'Cause you don't want to spot, you get so limited. I've realized with hentai, it is literally like, it's like mining for diamonds in Minecraft. You just don't get it. - That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. - You don't get the good shit. - It's like when you find a good shit, when you find one of the good shit, you got to save that shit. - There's like 10 hentai that I can probably, I could be like, you know what? These are probably my favorite that I can revisit. But like they never come around 'cause we have so much goddamn NTR. It's fucking, it's,

- It's awful. And the moment we don't get NTR, as much as I can work with Queen Bee, but I don't like it where every single non-NTR is Queen Bee. - Yeah, honestly. - What is happening here? Can we not do this for 10 seconds? - 'Cause just imagine me when I go onto just like a regular hentai website and I see "Pisou Hame Episode One," I was like, my time has come. My favorite hentai's finally been adapted. - When did they come out? - The doujin or the hentai? - Oh, the hentai.

- A couple of years ago? - Yeah, it was quite recent. - I wonder, I'm like, is Japan just ahead on porn? Like are they speed running it? Is this where all porn is gonna go to where everyone in the world is gonna be NTR fans? - God, I really fucking hope not. - 'Cause I feel like they're like five stages ahead of like fucked up shit.

- Oh yeah. - The rest of the world. - I mean, it's because Japan just accepts any kind of fucked up hentai, right? - Is this what the world is going towards? Are we all gonna be NTR fans? Are we all gonna be NTR fans in 20 years? - Here's the thing, there's obviously someone out there watching NTR. - A lot of people. - A lot of people. - I actually know someone. - Sydney. - Well, there you go, point taken. - But this is the thing is that it is like- - You literally just proved your own point.

- NTR, sometimes is attractive. I will admit there are one or two where I'm like, you know what? They had me in the first time. - It's not all bad. - Which ones? - I can't remember off the top of my head. There have been one or two where I'm like, you know what? This is good. But then I'm like, ah, it's NTR though. Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. Because I'm like, you know what? Like does vanilla really have to die? 'Cause I feel like vanilla is the minority of hentai that we get now. It's very rare where you just get a, oh my, they like each other?

There's no cheating. There's no sibling rivalry. Oh my God. - I think it's because in the context of Japanese, I think it's because in the context of Japanese audiences who read it, it's like,

- Why would I read this when I could just have it myself? - X it out though. - Okay, but like with your vanilla thing, do you count for example, step siblings or step parents, step mother, whatever, if there's no other complications other than them for some reason just being step siblings or step mother, is that vanilla to you? - I'd say yeah, probably. - Yeah, I mean, that's pretty vanilla. I mean, that's pretty,

- That's probably the most vanilla you can get nowadays. - Yeah, I mean, 'cause the thing is, it makes it even rarer. - You go on any porn website now, it is literally all stepmom, everything. Everything is stepmom. - Really? Are you sure or is that just the shit you look up? - No, no, no, I kid you not, you go on this shit and all the most viewed shit is all stepmom. And I'm like, what is happening?

- I'm here for it, but like, when did this happen? - I don't know when it happened, right? - You know, right? You see it too. - I think, wait, Maylin, can you search up some of the most searched terms on PornHub? Like, 'cause I guarantee, I think stepmoms,

- Okay, Ashley, Ashley, Ashley. - Yeah, Ashley do it. - I think it's either top three or top five. Stepmom is up there. - What happened? Because I swear like five, six years ago, lesbian porn was always number one. It was never dethroned. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere in like the space of two years,

all the fucked up shit goes to the top. What happened in those two? Is this coronavirus where people are like, "I guess NTR's pretty good, huh?" - I'm looking up the most popular tags for doujins right now. And would you believe that MILF is in the top 20? - I mean, I hope so. - But you know what's directly on top of that? - What? - Incest.

- It's concerning. No, this is not a celebratory moment. - I will take my crown right now. - No, no, no. - Oh, but then you know what's- - Fellow degenerates rise up. Degenerates rise up. - Man, there are some like, oh my God. Number 10 is Shotokan.

- Ashley, you're literally looking on Pornhub. Just search top search. Just search top Pornhub search. - You're gonna open a Pornhub. - Your boss is sitting right next to you and you're on Pornhub. - She told me to do it. - Maylene! Maylene, what are you doing? Stop corrupting Ashley like this. - What if the most search terms are in the top? - It's literally, they do it like a survey. - Yeah, they do a survey. - They literally do a survey and like a...

- Speaking of Shotokan, should we get on to the next one? - Yeah, sure. Let's get on to the next one. - Seikatsu Shuka. - Do you wanna know? For 2019, number one was amateur, number two was alien. - Those were the search terms. - Search terms. - Search terms. That's what you're going for. - Japanese. - Japanese number one?

- Number two is hentai. Number three is lesbian. Number four is MILF. - Hentai is above lesbian, now? - What? - What's number five? - Number five is Korean. - I swear it's like nearly, like you go on these websites, it is like Russia driving half of this shit. - Wait, where's Stepmom up there? - Seven. - Okay. - Stepmom and MILF though. Stepmom and MILF are normally very like closely. - Yeah. - But also,

- If you look at it, the amount of people in Russia that watch hentai is insane. - Really? - Hentai is massive in Russia. It's insane. - Fuck, I need to move to Russia. - Putin's like, "Put Mother Knows Best on my 90 inch OLED TV. "I'll check off on my Italian leather couch. "On my polar bear rug."

- So yeah, the next one is say cats as you can. I'm near certain Garnt recommended this one. - It was me. - Are you?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna say it right now, boys. I like the hentai version of this one. - Yeah, the hentai version is fucking racist. - Because, dude, you can't, the animation alone. - God tier. - In the hentai version of this is so goddamn good. And I was so confused when I opened this doujin, 'cause I was like, what is this story in the start? This is the shit story. Get to the story I know. The good story. 'Cause the first story is just like,

- Yeah, so this is like a collection of stories. - Is it two stories? - It's like two or three stories. - Okay, so there's two stories in this. It's Seikatsu Shukan and I think it's,

So the first part is like a teacher who fucks their students. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And like this teacher is not very charismatic, very creepy, very rapey, really weird. You know, you get introduced to this girl and she's a little concerned, you know? She's like, why are all the guys looking at my big, you know, big, big, big- - Big badonkos. - And you know, and this teacher's like, oh, don't worry about it. I'll help you. I'll help you get used to them. Because if you don't care about it anymore, no one's gonna look at them. And I'm like, jeez.

- Genius logic. - I'm like, "Ah, okay." And so he's like, "Oh yeah, just take your bra off in front of me so you can get more used to showing them off." And I'm like, "Oh God, all right, it's one of these." 'Cause it's just like, it's really rapey

'Cause you did recommend the next one we'll talk about is the teacher one. I think that's done much more tastefully than this one shot. Not a fan of this one shot at all. - Yeah, the one shot I didn't really want you to care about. - Well, the one shot was like 100 pages long though. - It was long. - It was long. - Because it's like, and this is the thing that I hate about hentai, this happens all the goddamn time. Let me see it. So, so.

- One trope that I really am not fond of in hentai is where the girl is like, "No, oh my God, please don't." And they're clearly being sexually assaulted really. And then suddenly they start doing it and they're like, "Oh wait, I like this now." And I'm like, "I don't think that's how it works."

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- Okay. - Did you know the first 5,000 people to click the link, add the samples to their carts and check out with code "FREE" will get free samples delivered to them. No bullshit. - That is the last chance. This is your last chance. I'm telling you now. - What am I, your mom? Go buy a game of Sops. - Your mom would love these cups. - I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed if you don't click the link right now. - Click the link in the description down below. - Back to the episode. - Generally did not enjoy this teacher fellow. I thought he was a little bit rapey.

- A little unpleasant. - Yeah. - And like, I think I said this in a Hentai episode, not really fond of that kind of stuff. You know, to me it's just like, oh, okay. And he's like, oh, I'm gonna teach you how to be more comfortable with your booze. I'm like, are you really? Are you sure about that? - Did you say like the name of the doujin? 'Cause I'll tell you, the name of the doujin is Abstinence Club, at least the first story arc, right? Which is, it's obviously nothing about abstinence.

- There's no abstinence to be found here. - It's quite the opposite. These are not good Christian girls. That's not what we're talking about here. - And there's two things that personally I'm not really fond of, or I just, I'm like, ah, whatever, that come up in this dojo.

First one being that apparently dick can just convert your feelings entirely and that you can just suddenly love it once it's inside of you. I'm like, pretty sure that's not how it works. - Nah. - Whatever. - It's gotta be pretty fucking good dick for you to do that. - You'd be surprised about how many times that pops up in hentai. - It's literally in every single fucking hentai as well. - I know, where it's just like, huh, you don't want it? Well, you obviously haven't had the Giga Chad dick yet. Let me introduce you. - Say that after you feel my dick.

- I'm fucking dumb. I hate it so much. And then also they have that whole fucking trope of, for some reason this happens a lot in hentai as well where the girl is having sex with the teacher because of course she is. And outside is another student who happens to catch wind of this going on. And naturally, instead of being like, oh God, oh my God, and running away and telling friends, she's like,

I think I should start nutting. I think I should start masturbating right now. Right now, outside. - This is an optimal time to nut. - Either winter or summer in Japan, which are both wildly uncomfortable seasons to be doing this outside, by the way. So this is just a terrible experience overall. And I did not enjoy this first story at all. I thought it was shit. And I was really confused. I was like, "Man, I really liked the anime version of this. I thought it was really hot."

I didn't even remember this, that this had an anime adaptation. Cause like I had to like, I was, I was- - You remember if you've seen it. - No, no, no, exactly. Cause I was like, this name kind of rings a bell somewhere. - Yeah, same, same. - So I look at the anime and then I look at the doujin and I'm just like, these aren't the same fucking story. I literally thought I had made a mistake.

- They adapted the better half into it. - Yeah, yeah. - Smart man, smart man. - Thankfully. - 'Cause the first half is every other fucking doujin that exists. - Yeah, yeah. - And every hentai. Like, all right, whatever. Fucking teacher abuses power. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever.

- Whatever. - Yeah, whatever. - Which we'll get to. - Okay, let's get to the part you wanna talk about. - Listen, okay. - Let's get to the good part. - The animated adaptation of this one, I have seen. I enjoy it thoroughly. I think it's great. The animation, very good. Because the boy isn't actually a Shotokan, makes it, in my head, I'm like, free pass. I'm like, it's free real estate. Because he transforms temporarily. So it's- - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm willing to bend the rules. - This is like, if I close my eyes and forget it's Connor's voice coming out, I'm just like, man, is Joey fucking talking right now? What is going on? - Yeah, that's like a me argument. - Are you okay with Shodacons, Connor? Is that what you're saying? - No, I have watched, I don't know what that other famous one is that always comes up with like the big, big,

and the tiny, tiny kids. - Oh! - That I do not- - The yokai one. - I fucking hate that one. That one is fucking disgusting. And I accidentally watched it and I thought, oh, oh!

- You know what I'm on about. If you've seen it, it's this vile- - It's like the eight foot milf, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's fucking disgusting. - It's like fucking watching "Attack on Titan." You know what I mean? - It's like POV, the fucking colossal Titan fucks you. It's like, I don't wanna watch this. I don't want this. - I was just like, this doujin disappointed me so fucking much, right? And the hentai also disappoints me. 'Cause you know why?

Do you know what the worst, do you know the only thing worse thing than a lolly? A Shodacon. - I agree though, I agree. - Because the thing is, with lolly hens- - They're equal in my hate. - 'Cause like, no, they're not equal to me. 'Cause with lolly hens, I was like, I was never gonna jack off to you anyway. It's whatever, I can just skip over this.

- The one reason why it's so fucking hard to find MILF hentai is because 90% of them are Shotokan. And the thing is most of them have like the fucking hottest MILF, like perfectly crafted MILF from God. - Perfectly crafted MILF. - I don't think there's that many. I think you're exaggerating a little bit. - That's what it feels like to me, right? And I'm just like, all right, I'm in this, I'm invested, I'm ready for this hentai. And then the fucking shota comes out and I'm just like,

- You are this close to greatness. We had it and then you lost it. - They had us in the first half.

- You know, I can understand the frustration. - Yeah. - But I think this is an exception. - Hell yeah. - You know, if I had read the doji and I thought, so what, so what, another like B tier. But you watch the anime version, you're like, this has a place. - S tier. - I'm like, okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. - This is such a Shyamalan twist for me 'cause I thought you were gonna hate this one. - No, how can you-

- I thought you were gonna hate this one. - When you watch the animation of this one- - Because it has a Loli and a Shota in it. - Okay, the Loli one, I really liked the redhead girl. - Yeah, the redhead girl is hot. - I was just like, redhead girl is fucking hot. Shota, why? - Why? - I think- - It's like if you have the fucking Mona Lisa and you just decide to fucking piss on it. - Do you ever see something that happens in porn that it like,

where you're like, oh, I didn't know I was into that, but that's very nice. - Yeah, that's what I like search for every day. - Try to feel that craving every day. - There was a scene in it where she like gives a hand job at the dinner table. I don't know why that was very attractive, but I was like, I'm into that. - The redhead girl. - I'm into that. I'm like, you've sold me, I wanna invest.

How do I invest in this? Put my money in the stock. - Stocks. - Put my money in the stock. - To the moon. - That kind of shit, I'm like, I'm here for it. But like, I know it's terrible. 'Cause it's like my body, my mind's telling me, "Put my body."

- It's like literally that. It's like, I know this is fucked and I'm always very, very hard on you guys with this kind of shit. So I feel like it's very hypocritical. - Well, I mean, I'm just happy we found out that you have a new favorite fetish which is cheeky handjob under the table. - Honestly, cheeky handjob at the family table. What's a better genre? I like danger in mine.

- You like a bit of spice, would you say? - I like danger, not spice. I don't want to go on spice. - That's me. That's you. - I like the fact that anyone could walk in. I like that kind of shit. I like that kind of stuff. - He likes having a danger wank. That's what he does. - Danger wank? I'm not out here in the fucking, the taxi wanking.

I'm not saying that, but a little bit of spice, a little bit of danger. I didn't say it. A little bit of danger adds a little something to it. - Danger wank is gonna be my next album. - But also every single, you know, again, like my love for like this thing is purely based

This is not even a doujin thing at this point. The doujin was mid when I was reading it. - 'Cause you are talking about the animation, right? - 'Cause the animation is so goddamn good. Pink Panther were like, "Finna bring my A game to this one." For some reason, but this one. - I completely agree. Watching the animation of this, the animation for "Hentai San" is fucking-

- It's what happened. I need to know what happened. - This is also like, I'm surprised that no one recommended this on our Hentai episode, right? 'Cause it's just that famous. - I was going to, but then I thought he would hate it.

- No, I like this one. I like this one. - Because I was like, I don't know if Connor's into shoulder or not. - No, I'm not. Most of it, I absolutely despise. This is probably the only one where I'm like, that's hot. - Really? - Yeah, this is the only one I've ever seen that I'm like, I think this is good. - That's really surprising. I'm learning a lot about you today, Connor. - What can I say? I'm willing to bend my morals. - All right, so just purely just based on the doujin out of 10.

I think a six, five. It was like the first story really ruined it for me. The first story was so basic, so bland, so insulting. None of the characters were hot. The teacher was fucking just not even remotely attractive.

I was not into the teacher character at all. I'm getting to the next teacher character. - What I'm getting out of this is like, what if like fucking you photo animated some lolly hentai. Would Connor enjoy it because the animation's that good? I don't know. - I was saying I like my hentai animation bad because sometimes I feel like- - Oh yeah you did.

- I completely forgot about that. - Because sometimes I feel like it serves the story better to have like bad animation. 'Cause sometimes the fucking isn't that great. And I'm like, you know what, it's fine. - We are talking to the one and only fan of Milky, right? - Yeah.

But for this, this is one of them where I'm like the animation is so goddamn good, where it feels like this is better than most anime we've been getting recently. So it's like, what am I supposed to do? How can I hate on this? This is just so goddamn good. I'm not saying I want all hentai to be like this because God knows we'd get 50 NTRs animated like this. And my mind can't take that. That would be 50 NTRs. - Unfortunately the NTRs are like some of the best. - They are, they always are the best. - I fucking hate it. I hate it. - It's like they draw this ugly bastard

the detail of a Mona Lisa. And it's like, why would you do this? What is wrong with you? How is the staff okay doing this? Like, I just don't get it, but it's fine. - It's like they're just playing nut chicken, right? Because it's just like, are you willing to nut to this? Are you willing to nut to this animation? - We can't always have a masterpiece. I've accepted that not everything can be a masterpiece, you know, literally the animation, watch it, it's great. But yeah, this is good. I like the animation. The story was kind of shit, but the animation very much saves the story.

- You just reviewed the Hentai, not the doujin. - Essentially, I mean, I genuinely, when I go to the second heart, I'm like, seen it, skipped it. I already know exactly what happens. I went through to make sure. It was like one for one the same as well. - Was there a reason why you suggested this doujin? - It's just the first one I thought of when I thought like, you know,

all the girls are hot. Like it's just an interesting premise. Like, yeah, I don't know. Like again, this is another one where it's like, as long as you're okay with the whole show to thing, it's very inoffensive. - That's a very big ask. - Just get over the show though, it's fine. Just pretend you're the show that's all right. - I don't know. Is it one of those things like,

- Is it because I'm a guy where I can forgive it a little less? Is that why? - What do you mean? - Like with the shoulder in this case, am I making an exception cause I'm a guy and I could be like, you know, he was an adult at the start of this thing. - Right, but if he was like a full on kid. - If he was genuinely a kid, I don't think I could enjoy it. - I mean, this is like a very deep conversation that I don't feel we have time to explore on this podcast. - Maybe at a later point. - Maybe on a future podcast. - This is definitely one of those things where I'm like,

I hate letting the exception, like I hate letting them be like the Uno reverse card, kind of save it. But like for this one, I'm like,

- It kind of does though for me. Like he acts like an adult. He is an adult. All right, fuck it. All right, I'll let it slide. - The thing that turns me off originally was that he didn't know that he wasn't a shooter. They like, you know, the girls didn't know that he wasn't a shooter either. - I did think it was weird when I first watched it that suddenly into him now that he's a kid, I'm like. - Yeah, 'cause all the girls are into shooters. - And I'm like, there's a few things we unpack here. - Wait, wait, wait. So it's kind of like when you have the siblings fucking

but then they'd be like, "But they are step siblings." - No, no, no. - This video is under fair use and not under copyright law. - No, because there was no moment where she was like, "I'm gonna ruin your life. I'm gonna impregnate you, impregnate me, ruin my marriage." There was none of that. That's pretty fucking hard to deal with. I don't want a marriage that's being ruined while I'm trying to have a wank. Like, you know what I mean?

- Let's get onto the last one. Or the second to last one. - Second to last one. - All right, second to last one. - Which is teacher and student. - Yeah. So this one's obviously Garnt's 'cause the last one's mine. - You know what? I had this down as Garnt's actually. - Okay, well perfect. - Again, I'm shocked I got some of these wrong. I thought I would've got them both right. - Yeah, I'm shocked you got it wrong too. I thought it would've been fairly obvious. - I thought it was fairly obvious. - It was just because, you know what it was? 'Cause me and Garnt had a conversation the other day where Garnt mentioned the word "shota" and I'm like, "This has gotta be Garnt."

- He said the word. - He literally said the word shorter to me like a week ago, it must be gone. He's trying to fucking inception my ass. Yeah, I mean, this one was weird because I thought the premise was really quite attractive. I thought it was quite hot. And then suddenly things just started happening where I'm like, ooh, ooh, I don't know, I don't know about this. - Really? - So let me explain the premise. So a teacher who works at the school

- Is broke, I guess. - Very broke. - Very broke. - But she has a job. - Very broke. - Full-time teaching, which I feel. - Obviously isn't paying the dog. - Seems like everyone else is managing fine. So her genius solution is to ask one of the kids whose dad owns an apartment complex. - Yeah, he's a rich kid. - To just stay in his house. And so he says no because he's a very responsible child.

Chad child says no, he says no to this woman. No, you're my teacher, you can't stay in my fucking apartment. Why the fuck would you? So she turns up at his door, naturally. - As you do. - As you do when you've been rejected, just fucking turn up at their door. This is already extremely wildly inappropriate for HR standards. And she's like, invite yourself in. And then she just starts living with him. And mad props to the kid, pushes her away and says no like 10 times.

that has to be rewarded. - Yeah. - Claps to you, Chad. King shit. But it's a dojin, you could only last so long. But the fact that he said no a bunch of times, I respect that. - Right. - Expecting, you know, he's respecting the HR standards of the workplace. - Yeah. - Which frankly, for a kid, very professional. - Yeah.

I notice I'm calling HR. How did this woman get this job? Is what I did write down because she's essentially just trying to fuck this guy constantly. And I'm just wondering like, how did she get this job? What's going on here? What's going on here?

- What's going on here? - Probably did a sneaky hand job on the table. - Did she try to fuck the guy? From what I remember. - She definitely did. - Did she? - Yeah, she literally grabbed his dick out and started sucking it. - Oh yeah, the first time around. - That was the first time though, right? - That was the first time around. - Before that, even before she even came to his house, she's like, "Do you wanna touch my boobs? "I'll let you do it if I get to stay in your house." - No, but she said it like jokingly, right? 'Cause she's supposed to be like, "Ha ha, hee hee."

- She can't say that shit jokingly to the student. - It's a doujin. - Wait, can I have a beer, Ashley? - Yeah, can you get me a beer as well? - From the fridge, I need a beer for this shit. I can't talk about this shit without a drink. Are you kidding me? We ran out of wine. - All right, so to explain why, I guess to give context to why I chose this, this is one of my favorite doujin artists. It's an artist called Fuga.

- I don't know how well known he was, but this man is to me the king of vanilla. Like this man's like his art is like, I would say like about average, maybe a bit above average. - I'd say average. - It's about average. But like why I love his work so much is that

his stories and characters are so fucking good. Where there are some points where I feel like I'm not even reading a doujin, I'm just reading a romance manga with sex scenes. - I wanna agree with you so bad. I wanna, but there was so many moments where I'm like, nah bro, this ain't it. - Is it the incest? - Of course there's incest!

- The incest side story, right? - So, let me explain the story first and I'll build up to, you're probably wondering, why is there incest in this story? This doesn't, Connor didn't even mention incest. Why is there incest in this story? Great question. I'll answer why there's incest in this story. So in this story, like I said, you know, she moves into his apartment. For some reason he doesn't kick her out or try to get like his dad to kick her out. He lets her live in there.

And they both explain to each other they're frustrated because they haven't been able to jack off because they're both always around each other. And so her solution is, well, great, I'll just make you nut.

- As any good teacher would. Apparently. So they start fucking and then it becomes a thing. And it's very honestly, like I will admit it's quite attractive up to this point. It's done very tastefully considering the fact that it would be very illegal and very concerning in real life. In doujin form, very tasteful. I thought it was done really well. I was on board.

- I would say the reason for that is because like there's a good like 40 to 50 pages before there's this first sex scene. - True, true, true. It's done well, it's done well. - You hear this premise and you think, okay, I've seen dojos like this before. They fuck one of like the third, fourth page or something. No, there is like- - It was tasteful, it was tasteful. - There is 40 full pages of characterization

And that's the thing, that's why I love this Dojin artist is because he gives a shit about characterization. - I'll say that there was, he definitely took the time and again, like I'm saying, like, you know, obviously in real life, this shit is fucking weird. But it's Dojin, right? So you set the kind of disbelief apart.

And it was done really well. I'd say up to this point, it's done really well. - No, I was just gonna say, I fucking love this one. - I was honestly, I was so into this. - I was like, this reminds me of like an early 90s Shonen Jump rom-com. - Yeah, it does, doesn't it? - With like the art and like how it's paced and like the characterization. I'm like, I fucking love this dude. - I'm not just here to hate, you know?

- I agree, it was hot, right? Up until this point, I was like, they're hitting every mark, you know? They've done this about as tastefully as you can. A little weird at parts. - Was it chapter three? - It might've been chapter three. So first of all, right, we get this whole like, I mean, the whole reason why they fuck is 'cause there's a rumor going around the school that she's dating a teacher. And the teacher's like- - Like the vice principal. - The vice principal. And the vice principal was like, "Yeah, we're dating, kid, get over it." And he's like, "No, they're fucking, yeah."

And she's like, "No, no, no, you turn to him to hotel and he tried to come on me. We didn't fuck." - Yeah. - I'm like, "All right, respect, respect. I get it." And then out of nowhere, like fucking Randy Orton slithering in, his sister comes into the play and is like, "By the way, I love him. I'm gonna fuck him now." And then they start fucking.

And I'm like, what is going on? Where did this come from? Why, why, why? It's like, it's like this incest was just like, allow me to introduce myself. Like, why did this, why is it- - No, it wasn't allow me to introduce myself. It came in like the Kool-Aid man. It was just like, bah! - Exactly. - Incest! - Like, like to this day. - Out of nowhere. They just start fucking his sister and then she leaves and it's never brought up again. Why? - Why not? - Justify it to me. Justify the incest. - No, no, no, I'm not justifying it. - Why do you like incest so much? What the fuck?

- I fucking hated the incest in this one, okay? - Thank God, what the fuck was that? - The reason I fucking love this one, teacher-student relationship done fucking tastefully as fuck. Like, okay, chapter three, like she doesn't fuck the main guy. For some reason, like there is just this, like one of his classmates comes in and is just like, "I've run away from home." - That's right. - That was weird too. - My sister is harassing me, right? Like that one, yeah.

- To correct what Connor said, the sister doesn't fuck the main guy. It's just these two side characters who is the brother sister who just randomly fuck for no fucking reason. I don't know why is there either. - It's not the main character. - No, no, no. - It's not the main character. - It's the main character's friend. - Yeah, it looks so much like him.

- It's the main character, but less Chad. - Yeah, yeah. It's like the main character's friends shows up and he says, "I've run away from home." And then he finds out- - Sister, fuck me. - Yeah, my sister's been harassing me. And then he, and then, so- - This is even more concerning 'cause it has absolutely nothing to do with the- - The main story, right? - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's just like a fucking T-bone. - So his friend finds out that the teacher and student are living together and he's like, "Oh, okay, that's fine, whatever." And then the sister comes along and was like,

the sister comes to the teacher and is like, "Do you know where my little brother is? I heard he went to your place or something along those lines." And so the sister comes in and she's like, "This is mine. He's mine." - Yeah, yeah. - And then she, and then- - I didn't even know who he is. - I literally don't know who you are. - And then the little brother starts like, and then she starts fucking sucking his dick or something in front of the teacher and the teacher's just there being like- - She's like, "All right, you guys, you do your- - The teacher's just like fucking Mike Wazowski face, just like-

- This is why I was like, what the fuck was that? Like I was literally into this headset meme. I literally took it and I'm like, what is this? Like, why do they do this? Like every time you get into it, a random side story comes up. There's absolutely fucking nothing to do with the story and it's shit. - I thought that side story was fucking hilarious. - But it takes you out of it. - No, it was funny.

- The wrong way was shit. - Nah, nah, nah. - It was so shit. - I mean, it was so out of place for like the rest of the "Totion." - 'Cause it's only one chapter. - It's only one chapter. It's a side story that I don't know why this side story is in here. - Put it at the end. Put it at the end. Don't ruin the flow. - Because it literally had no effect on the story and they don't call back to the characters at fucking all. Like, I don't know why this side story is in here, but the point is like,

- The reason this is one of my favorites is that the relationship between the student and the teacher is like so well. And it's just like, you don't, you can never read a Fugadoujin and just not come out just like with a warm, fuzzy feeling. - I agree with that. - What are you laughing at Connor? Why are you laughing Connor? - Because there's a few, I gotta stop you right there. I will stop you right there. There is one moment where I was like,

I don't know about that one chief where she's like, she's like, guys, I have an announcement to the school. I've been fucking one of the students. And I'm like, I don't think that's a good idea. - Well, like it's completely in character though, isn't it? Like they've built her up as just someone who just doesn't give a fuck. - Yeah, but I'm thinking, I'm sitting here like, all right, all right. - She did it for love. - I respect it. I respect, I do, I do. But I think about your career a little bit.

- No, she doesn't care. - You're not employed. You've literally just admitted to a criminal offense. I'm pretty sure, like in front of everyone. - No, dude, she was just like, "I love this guy so much. I'm willing to quit my job." - Your honor, it was love. - Yeah, it was love. - You've been sentenced to 10 years in jail. - That's why it's Holtzman's fuck. She sacrificed her career to declare her love. And I'm just like, this is a doujin. I don't care.

I don't care about the legal ramifications. She obviously didn't get any. The point is that like it was building up to a point. - Listen, I will admit the ending was somewhat sweet. I will admit. A part of me was just like, did you really have to announce it to the school?

- That's the dramatic scene. - It's not like the Shrek fucking wedding. You don't have to be like, "Lord Farquaad, you cannot marry her because I'm going to marry." You don't need that. It really doesn't add anything. You could have just been like, "You know what? I'll see you after school. Graduate? Well, fuck." That could have been it. - No, but that's boring. - Yeah. - Is it though? - I mean, it was dramatic.

- You need the drama. - You need the drama, you need the spice, motherfucker. - That's the pog moment where you're like, I can't believe she just said that. - Like when he confessed to her and she just went, I know. I'm just like, oh shit.

- She did not just say that. - What? I mean, she literally been fucking riding this boy's dick for 10 months. Of course she likes her. That's how this shit goes. - But that's what I loved about this doujin is that it reads like a 90s rom-com because there's so many moments like that in 90s rom-coms that I've read where I'm just like,

- I mean, of course, like of course you would do that. - I was so fucking invested in these characters, in this character's relationship, more so than like any other doujin I've read apart from his other works. Like the only reason I really chose this was of course, Garnt, teacher-student relationship, of course I'm gonna fucking love that. - I mean, you know, as taboo as it is in real life, it's very attractive in fictional works. - I don't think about the legal ramifications when I read doujin comics. - Sometimes I do, I'm sitting there and I'm like, fuck dude,

Like how many years am I getting for this? - This isn't even his like most highly rated works. There's like one, which I would say is like the children of hentai. If you remember children, it's like an anime that focuses on different couples kind of like and getting together and it's wholesome as fuck. And his work is basically like that but just with the fucking included, right? You get the same kind of character development. You get the same kind of,

care in the characterization as you would in any other fucking manga. - I would say there was big props to, you know, making me actually give a fuck about the story. - Yeah. - Despite the weird side story. Again, I really want to know what the thought process was. I'd love to have been there. In the board meeting, I wish I was there. So I could be like- - Yeah, I thought it was fucking hilarious. - It was, but it also took me out of it. - I was like, halfway through reading this chapter, I was like, I know this is gonna happen.

no ramifications on the story, but it's just hilarious to read. - I was just like, 'cause I knew when I recommended this, that it was that scene that was gonna get brought up. - Of course it is, how could I not? - I knew it was just gonna be the moment where it's just like, "Go on, this your man?" I'm just like, "This is not my man." - This is literally your man. - "Come get your man." - All I'm saying, right, is that two out of three have incest gone. What's up with that? What's up with that?

- He likes it, man. Leave the man alone. - This is good. I like it 'cause I get to be the judge, jury and executioner here. And I didn't have to show my taste. - He didn't have to show your taste. - I don't have any taste. - We roasted you enough in the end. - I put a lot on his breast. Come on, I've been roasting him for a lifetime. Stand by my words. But yeah, I mean- - Out of 10? - What did I give it out of 10?

- I give it a seven out of 10. - Oh, not bad. - I thought the good moments were very, very good. The story was pretty damn good. A few moments where I thought, "Eh, whatever." And a few moments where I'm like, "All right, a little too much."

keenness from this lady in the start. I'm like, why are you into this kid? Is there any reason why is it purely- - I don't even think she was into the kid at first. - Really? - Right? - She's just joshing around. - Yeah. - What kind of woman joshes around? He gotta fuck around living in your apartment, bro. - She's like early twenties. She doesn't give a fuck. - The reason that they used the cat analogy so much was because she would just basically was a stray cat. That was like the analogy. - I get it, I get it. - When I'm just like, she doesn't give a fuck.

- It was the first time where I read a doujin and I looked at like a character and I was like, you're not even hot. You just cute as fuck. - Yeah, honestly, the reason this is my favorite of his works is because I fucking- - Like you are the cutest fucking personality. - I fucking think the teacher's like, I love the fucking teacher. - Yeah, I think she's cute as fuck. - She is cute as fuck. - The fang is like, bro, that doesn't fit me. - Seven out of 10.

- All right, but what's most important is this final one. - Okay. - It's neither gone or my recommendation or rather it's both of our recommendations. - It's both our recommendations. - They just wanna scar me. - We were never going to do a doujin episode without talking about metamorphosis. - One of the most legendary doujins out there. - Okay. - Connor's never read it. - Before we start, I got something to say. I have a confession to make guys. - Oh no, what are you gonna say, Garnt?

I have before this never read Metamorphosis. - Really? - Yes. - Wow. - Metamorphosis has been my full metal alchemist. - All it took was an episode to make him do it. - Congratulations, you did it. - It takes 10 fucking minutes to read. It's not long. - It's not 10 fucking minutes. - It's like a 20, 30 minute read.

- Yeah, yeah. But like it was the one where I'm just like, people have talked about it so much that I had just been putting it off. So it was that one hentai when I'm just like, I will read "Metamorphosis" when I am ready to read "Metamorphosis." - I will say for all I've heard about this,

I almost expected it to be more fucked up than it was. Did you feel that way? It was pretty fucked up. - Okay. - But because of the reputation it had, I expected it to be- - You over-hyped yourself. - I thought it was gonna be even worse than it was. - So did you just hype up the fucked upness in your head? - Well, you know, I mean,

I've been an anime fan for a long time. You hear about this constantly. It's referenced constantly as being that one fucked up thing. - It's fucked up for a vanilla audience. - I've watched the final season of Game of Thrones. I know true disappointment. And that's what it felt like a little bit. I was like, this is fucked. Don't get me wrong. It's very fucked up. - It is fucked. - But I almost expected something worse. Like I almost expected like absolutely horrific shit. - I think it's because you've already put your foot

in the doujin and like hentai world. - Yeah, I mean, I know the amount- - This is like grade A fucked up of someone who's like never stepped foot into that, right? - I feel like I've seen S tier fucked up and this is A tier fucked up. Like it's very fucked up and very uncomfortable. Maybe it's just more accessible. I'm not really sure why this one has gotten a notoriety. - I think it's because this was one of, I think this was just that one doujin that really just

I guess for whatever reason it is. And I'm like- - Should we explain the premise first of all? Metamorphosis is a very well known doujin. - Yes.

about a girl who, you know, she doesn't, she's not the prettiest girl out there. And then she gets a makeover and then suddenly- - Literally takes off her glasses. Takes off her glasses, puts on a bit of makeup. - Becomes hot. - Becomes hot. And then guys are suddenly attracted. - You have seen this beginning panel somewhere. If you're in the anime community, you've seen this somewhere. - It's iconic as fuck. Even I know what this panel is.

And then I didn't know any of the other panel, which is this is the before and this is the after. Completely different character. And then this character is just shocked that guys are now paying attention to her and that they wanna fuck her. And so she starts fucking these guys and it gets really derailed really fast.

- Yeah, it's a big yikes of a read. I mean, how do I explain it? I mean, here's, okay, let me just, I put some notes down while I was reading it. - Yeah, go on, go on. - Seems normal so far. Not fond of how his dad reacted to her makeup, of her dad reacting to her makeup. - Yeah, what scene was that? - Makeover, makeover, not gonna lie. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Chapter three. - So she gets a makeover and the father's like,

I was like, I don't like that. - You won't believe what happens next. - I was like, I do not like that. I do not like that look he gave. This does not mean good things. And unfortunately I was correct. - Top 10 foreshadowing moments. - Literally, watch Mojo, you can take this from the top 10 short foreshadowing moments in anime. Yeah, so, you know, a kind of sleazy dude kind of uses her for sex.

and then gives her drugs. - Yeah, I think the biggest aspect of the story, which I've never seen in any other doujinshi before was the drug angle, right? - Yeah, it was pretty uncomfortable. - Yeah, yeah. - It was pretty uncomfortable. - Yeah, where it was like, so she puts on makeup, she has her makeover and then she finds this douchebag guy who basically gives her a drug. - It's kind of like a Mandy ripoff kind of thing.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. And basically she experiences the best sex of her, or just one of the best experiences of her life. - Literally her first time. - She's a virgin then and she just becomes kind of a nymphomaniac, right? Where she just- - And a drug addict. - Yeah, well, a sex addict and a drug addict at this point, right? Where she's addicted to the sex and she's addicted to the drugs and she's addicted to the sex and drugs. And then this, it just kind of spirals down from there. It is, it is,

it is a downward curve from chapter one. - But you almost feel like when the character is this disconnected and barely gives you any,

signs of wanting to, I don't know, like this, it feels so forced at times, this decline of mental state where it's like, all right, all right, you're just doing the fucking best of depression hits at this point or something. You know what I mean? Like it's literally, you're just trying to get, I feel like they're just making things bad for the sake of it. Like there's like a lot of the time I was like, I guess. Like there was a moment in it where I was like,

I don't know, X to doubt on that one. - Which point? - So it was in the school where during the story, they know that she went to a hotel. Okay, so, okay, I suppose I should back up. So she has this boyfriend

who's kind of a scumbag, gives her drugs. And then she kind of wants money. So she starts fucking an old guy who gives her money. A little disturbing and the sexiness- - Ugly boss attack. - Literally really, it's not an uncomfortable, it's quite uncomfortable, I'm gonna say. It's very uncomfortable. I didn't mean to say not uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable.

And then for some reason, one of the students finds out that she went to this place. So naturally all of the boys together decide, well, let's all get blow jobs from her. That's what me and the boys do at school. - Yeah, of course. - First of all, never gonna happen. But also that was the part where I was like, ah, I feel like this is kind of like, ah, just a little extra,

That was where I was like, I get it. It's very depressing, but I was like, this feels really forced, this part. I'm like, you're making me sad for the sake of it. Do you not agree with that whole school part where I'm like, this is a bit of a stretch. - I mean, it's just like a trope that I've seen in so many- - And they all start fucking her and I'm like, name one school kid that minds showing his dick to anyone, let alone fucking someone in front of his friend. - You'd be surprised in Japan.

- I don't know man. I don't know man. - I mean, this is a culture that is grown up on just seeing each other's dicks in the onset, right? That's like...

- It is. - It's just probably another day at the office, right? - I know, I don't want to fuck with the same fucking girl. - No, no, no, no, no. - It's such a stretch that I'm like, ah, I feel like they're just doing this. - I mean, you say it's a stress, but again, it's like such a trope that you see Doja. - Yeah, yeah. - It happens all the time. It's not even like surprising. - But I guess when it's used in a way, it's like, feel sorry for this girl, feel like sadness. I'm like,

- I mean, that wasn't even the part where I felt sadness at all. It was after that. - What I would say is this is like the requiem for a dream of hentai. And I didn't think I would say that in like a sentence, but it's a thing. It is a thing. - So after she sleeps with this old guy for money, after she gets blackmailed by the other kids in a school to have sex with them and do all this other stuff, which is really horrifying. It's not portrayed very well. It is portrayed very horrifyingly.

her dad wants a piece of the action. And this is where I'm like, for fuck sake. This is just like, this is like literally the saying, my day can't get any worse. This is literally it. This is literally, so I'm like, God, what do I even say about this thing? This is so fucked up that I'm like, oh my God. Like, what, why? And then she fucks the dad, the dad fucks her, right? And it goes on and the mom blames her. And I'm like,

Really? Like you were married to this man for how long? And you think it's your daughter's fault? Come on, come the fuck on. No way. I bet 99% of wives would be like, "Man, you're out. I don't care what happened. I don't care who tempted who, you're fucking out. You are the problem. You should fucking know better." I'm like, that's where I was like, "All right, okay, okay, maybe, maybe I'm like- - Maybe, I'll see where this goes. - "I don't know about this move, chief."

- I don't know, could you see a world where the mom would be like, "I blame you daughter for fucking dad." - I mean, fuck, I don't know man. I don't know anyone who's been in that situation. How the fuck am I supposed to know? - You never know, there might be, who the fuck knows? - What do you think then? This is just fucking weird. This one was fucking weird, uncomfortable. I'm like,

- I get why it's got a reputation, but I was just like, fuck. - Oh no, it is absolutely fucked up and it's not supposed, it's one of those doujins where it's not supposed to be enjoyed in the conventional way of enjoying a doujin. - You know some shit. - I'm a fucking, I'm a fucking. - Oh no, of course, yeah. - I'm a fucking say, I think this doujin's a masterpiece. - Thank you, thank you.

- I was just like, I have, not because I thought it was hard. - I raised this boy. - This is like, I Google every depressing thing that could happen in life. I put it in a dojin. How is that a masterpiece? - I have never been so engrossed in a dojin before. Like I, where like I was turning every page and I was like,

- I was like, 'cause I was thinking, where is this doujin gonna go next? I'm 100% serious. - I literally saw it from like the moment she met this guy, I'm like, I bet just fucked up after fucked up shit is gonna happen. The moment he gave her drugs, I'm like, I know this is going. This is just gonna- - It has the greatest show name battle of all time, dude. Who is going to win? One innocent girl or one spiky boy?

- No, because like I tried to come, I feel like you came in with like a lot of preconceived notions where you're just like, this is fucked up. I'm ready for this. - If this was a movie or a TV show or anything, this would be like,

just like bait tier of like, this is just baiting. Like this is just so lazy in terms of how little they try to sell this as like a realistic journey that I'm like, you know, we've had movies about stuff like this that are fucked up, that have done this so much better that I'm like- - Literally Requiem for a Dream, like I said. - Just because this is in doujin format and it's literally the only one that's like, how about we be depressing? You know, it's like, I don't want to give it props for that.

'Cause like I give a props for that. - I think it's a bit more than that. - Yeah, but I think it's a little more. - Maybe I'm being a little too harsh, but I feel like this has been done before in other places. - Because I feel like metamorphosis has like, well now it has to battle with it being like the meme doujin, right? 'Cause it's like people don't judge it on its own merits anymore. People judge it being like, "Ha ha, I've seen this been memed everywhere as like the big thing that people like recommend to people to like fuck them up and stuff like that."

And it's like, one thing that I don't like is that people

people in like the hentai community or what I've seen, people were just like, I've seen more fucked up shit than this. I've seen worse things than this. And I'm just like, of course you have. I too watch Euphoria. I too have seen some of the shit that Sydney has recommended and fucking reviewed. Like I've seen the fucked up shit. - I've seen the daily collection of shit. - A part of me obviously went into this thinking it's gonna be the most fucked up thing I've ever seen in my life 'cause everyone's recommending it. But it wasn't that.

Then the other hand, I'm like, you know, it's almost trying too hard to make me feel sadness for this character that I don't really feel like they built her up that well. Like honestly, personally. - I thought they built her up really well. - It was so short and sweet. And it's like, I guess it felt very one dimensional to me.

I felt like there wasn't enough depth to the character. And then the moment shit started going wrong- - Look at us, depth to the character in a Dope episode. - Listen, listen, listen. - Look at us, look at us. - If you want me to give a shit about this story, you sit here saying it's a masterpiece. I'm gonna sit back and be like, "Listen, I'll find, I'll talk about the characters for one goddamn minute." The moment shit started going wrong for her, all character development went out the fucking window. There was like nothing was added or introduced. It was like, all right,

It's like the, it's like an Apple event. It's like, we've seen the iPhone. We've seen being taken advantage of. Let me introduce being taken advantage of by your father. And everyone's like, that's what I felt like. I felt like I was being condescended to in terms of the shit that was coming up. - Okay, because I would feel like the thing that I also want to mention is that God damn, Shindell knows how to draw a good sex scene. My fucking God. That's the thing that's missing, right? - He's the man. - Because like, okay, here's the thing.

I think fucking chapter one awoke something in me. You're like, you remember talking about like that new thing where it's just like, ooh. - Wait, what is the new thing? - The new fetish. - The new fetish is just like this girl who like, I've never read a doujin where like this sex scene is like this intense.

- I'm just like- - Like the drugs and shit? - Yeah, where they introduce the drugs and it just like enhance their experience to a point where it was just like, nothing that you can ever experience on this earth. - I don't know why I didn't enjoy that scene that much. I'm not really sure why. - No, that scene single handedly awoke that for me.

- I'm just like, me reading that scene was just like fucking heavy breathing cats. I'm just like, oh God. - Fucking up your PC monitor. - Jesus Christ, for a second I understood Mei Lin for like a second. That's fucking saying something, right?

- I didn't know I could feel this way. And then like chapter three here and I'm just like, I think like my fucking penis shriveled up and it just inverted back into my body. It was just like such a whiplash of emotions that I'm just like, it went from like, oh, that's hot to just like, what the fuck am I reading? - Have you seen that fucking like, there's a thing in the UK where they would go, there's a TV show they go and visit tribes and there's this one clip, it's one of my favorite clips, the guy's like, there's a ceremony where they invert their penises

and they invert this dude's penis and he immediately faints. I just imagine, I imagine that's what happened to God. He just, it's penis inverse. He just fucking.

And his PC monitors and he's like, "What happened, Garnt?" I was reading Metamorphosis. - Understandable. - Understandable. - Here's some Powerade. - Honestly, 'cause I feel like the difference between me and you was just like, at a point I was into it. And then I was just like, okay, I am not into it anymore. But I was like, I was invested into it. - Maybe that's why it was so strong for you because it was like, you were into it at one point. And then it's like, slaps you on the back of the head. It's like, stop.

- It's the whiplash of emotion. - Stop it, that was a really good clap by the way. - Even during some of the later chapters, I'm just like- - No, don't say it. - No, because his art is fucking amazing, right?

I don't know how he draws his sex scenes to be this intense where I'm just like, I'm feeling emotions that I've never felt before in my life. - I was reading this praying, I wanna go back to the succubus one. I really wanted to just open it up. - Okay, I gotta ask, what do y'all think about the final chapter? - Fucked up. - Fucked up. - I think because I think,

- I almost think now hearing your guys' thoughts on it is that this manga works amazingly, or "Dershin" works amazingly if you get invested really heavily in the first part and the first sex scene. Because then like I said, it hits you in the back of the head. It's like, no, don't be horny. It's bad.

- Horny bad. - It gave me such a mess of emotions, right? Because I'm just like, I know I shouldn't be horny right now. This is fucking depressing as shit. This is fucked up. - I didn't like the guy at all. I think that's why. Like I couldn't- - No, I didn't like the guy at all. - How can you get behind him? - You're not supposed to like the guy. - Yeah, but that's, to me it's like, you know, the whole hotness of the sex is the duo dynamic. - Okay.

Someone who is that depressed shouldn't be making those kinds of facial expressions. You can fucking frame some of the facial expressions. - What do you mean by that Garnt? Let's unpack that a little bit. Let's jump right in the woods. - Let's talk about the art of that. - This guy need another drink. - Let's talk about the art of the ahi gal, right?

- I'm not fond of it. I've been oversaturated to it. - Yeah, you've been oversaturated. - I think we all have. - We all have, right? But like his like ahi gow faces are some of the most unique fucking ahi gow faces I've ever seen in all of hentai. - It's Asanagi and Shindewala. - I'm a man of the church though. That's not enough to make me quiver. I don't see that. My wills are not compromised by such,

- Such ill thought ideas. - I'm sorry Connor, that this art piece was so good that it made me question. It made me question it for a second. And then I was just like, no, I'm back to it. This is awful. This is depraved. - I'm just imagining the fucking name of the clip of this fucking thing. God thought.

- Fucking metamorphosis was the fucking Mona Lisa of doujins and some shit. - I personally think it's the Mona Lisa of doujins. - No. - Okay, okay, the reason why I was so engrossed in it is because it was such like- - You love incest and there's incest in it at some point, Garnt. So clearly that's why you like it. - It was such a fucking mess of emotions and it was like an emotional uproar

- It was just down from the start. I knew the moment she was like, I can't make good friends. I'm like, oh no, that's gonna lead to bad decisions. - The only other time I felt that depressed reading something was Oyasumi Punpun. - It also, okay. - I've never, I've not read Oyasumi Punpun. - This is the Oyasumi Punpun of Doshu. - I also want to put it into perspective.

that I just read like three and a half hours of porn before this. So reading this last was not a good way to end my day. I was already quite done with reading porn. And then you have to bear in mind, there was probably no way I was gonna find any, if it was the hardest- - Well, that's what you get for doing your homework the day before it's due. - I was given the thing the day before. I was given this two days ago. So, you know, I think that also didn't help because there was no way I was ever gonna find any of these things attractive. 'Cause I was pretty much,

I was pretty done with reading porn. - You've read, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've read so much- - You did your year's quota of reading. - I literally read like what I think is like a normal person's like month worth of porn in one day. So I was pretty exhausted. And the fact that this came up and I just saw the right through it right away. I knew exactly what they were gonna do right from the start. And I was just like, you know,

"It's fine, I see what you're trying to do. "You're trying to make me sad, and I don't appreciate it." Frankly, it's not done well. The moment that her dad looked at her, I'm like, "I see what you're doing here, buddy."

- Your next line is? - We keep talking about the dad, but I think the dad is the worst part of the doujin. 'Cause it was just like, for me reading the dad episode was just like, let's just throw in something fucked up. - I would rather eat my own toenails than read them again. - But like, it was after the dad doujin, the dad chapter part when I'm just like,

- This is really engrossing as a story. - I knew it was going there. The moment he gave her a drug, I'm like, he's literally gonna sell her later on and use drugs for it. It was so obvious it was going there. And so when it went there, I was like, I was not even surprised. The dad thing caught me off guard. I had a feeling it might happen. And then when it did happen, I'm like, for fuck sake. God damn it. God damn it.

'Cause like to me, it was just the feeling of just being like, this is the most depraved shit. I shouldn't feel horny at all in this situation. - Are people jacking off to this? - I don't think so. I don't know, probably someone is. - Probably. - I mean, because Vsauce. - 'Cause the thing is, the thing is, it was that emotion juxtaposed between how amazing the sex scenes were. 'Cause like out of context. - Extra down on this. - No, out of context.

Out of context. - No, I don't think the sexy was that good. - The art was fucking amazing. - Half of it was fucking ugly bastards. How much was to get behind that shit?

- I mean, it wasn't all ugly bastards. - It wasn't all ugly bastards. - Okay, so it was, we had two very big scenes with older men. - Yeah. - And it was very gross because- - There were six chapters and two, maybe three of them were ugly bosses. - Which frankly, one is too many for me personally. So the fact that I read this shit and I thought it's bad enough she's fucking some random dude for money who is literally the ugliest man on earth. And then next it's like,

It's like fucking smash bros introducing a new fighter, fucking dad, into this fucked up story already, which is already depressing as fuck because everyone in the fucking school has had a go at her. And it's just like that shit alone, I was like, you know what? Yeah, sure, Japanese kids are fucked up, but like this is too much. This would never happen.

No way in any school would this ever happen. - Well, it's interesting because like I interviewed Shindelwell like a couple of years ago and we talked about this. I was like, 'cause I wanted to know, I was like, what inspired metamorphosis? And he said that he, because he was born and raised in New York. So he was like, I heard and saw so many stories that were similar to this.

And he was like, I wanted to bring light to it 'cause otherwise no one fucking talks about it. - I bet this shit has happened

like separately, like all of these individual things. - No, no, absolutely. - This isn't based off a real one. - No, I know, I know, but the fact that like you string these all together to a point where I'm just like, I suspend my disbelief and I'm like, yeah, I don't know. - No, it's not supposed to be realistic, but it's supposed to be, it's basically, I think in my opinion, it was Shindel being like, look, this shit happens. - But like, I think about movies that fucked me up and I think that could be me. I could make that mistake. I could be in that situation. And this one, I was like, this is,

- Well, yeah, 'cause you're not a chick. - Even then, I feel like it was trying too hard to be fucked. - I think the most fantastical element of it was how much she enjoyed the sex, right? 'Cause that was, I feel that was the big difference between- - That was also an uncomfortable part, 'cause I'm like, is this,

Is this good? Is it what she wants? I don't- - That's the most interesting element. - That to me is what like drew me in was like the fact that she enjoyed the sex so much, which I know is like unrealistic. - But with her dad, Vsauce music, why? - No, no, no, that's the point, right? Where it's just like,

such a mess of emotions that is just like, you have no grounding. - It questions your morality the entire time. - There's no grounding on this kind of situation 'cause personally, I don't know anyone who's fucked their dads.

- I'm glad. - I personally know four people who've done that. - And I kind of want to keep it that way. That's just me. I don't know if that's a hot take, but I hope that that never happens to any fucking body. - It's fucked. - Yeah, that's the point. It's fucked. It's fiction, right? But the thing that drew me in was that it was just these fucked up situations juxtaposed between sex scenes that she obviously really enjoyed at the time.

And I'm just like, yo, this is like really weird. This is like a weird car crash of different fucking things that I shouldn't be feeling right now. But I'm just like,

I don't know how to like, I'm still like processing it now because it's like the only time, the reason I call this a masterpiece is that it's the only time I felt this emotion that I'm trying to describe right now. Normally you get depressed. Normally you get horny. You don't talk about depression, depression boner, do you? Like that just doesn't happen. But metamorphosis is just these two fucking things that shouldn't coexist together. - Coexisting together. - Yeah, coexisting together. I'm just like, what?

- And that's why I think it's brilliant as well. It's because he took such a fucking risk with this, where he was like, this could have easily just been like a weird thing that no one would have picked up and then just like brushed under all of the, oh, okay, that's fucking weird. Let's not talk about that pile of doujins that are out there. But there was just, again, he just presented it in a way where it was just like, you came for the horny.

but you're gonna stay for the depression, whether you like it or not. - Yeah. - And like, I don't know any other doujin that's managed to do that and managed to make me stay the entire time until the end. - You've seen the Shia LaBeouf movie, "Nymphomaniac"? - No, I haven't. That's like the three hour long one, right? - It's like there's two parts to it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I felt like that was a really uncomfortable depiction of a woman who's addicted to sex.

I felt like that was really somewhat well done. - I thought that's an interesting movie. - It's a very hard watch. - Yeah, really? - It's very long. - Yeah, yeah. - It's very uncomfortable. - It's that fucking like really avant-garde director. - Yeah, it is. And it's one of those things where it's like,

it really reminds you, like you think you're cool with sex until you see it in really uncomfortable ways and you're like, ah yeah. - Oh, it's the "Wiles Vaughn Trier" movie. - I kind of do have weird thoughts about, 'cause it really makes you be like, oh, you're comfortable with sex? Bet. And I feel like, you know, having experienced that kind of weird shit, I feel like going into this, I'm like, yeah, I can kind of buy why she's into it, but also,

I feel like it's been done better in different places almost. Not saying that movie did it better essentially, but...

I feel like I've seen it done in a way where I'm like, I think this is done slightly more realistic to the point where I'm like, I believe it. I believe it. - Yeah. Right. But it's hard to like, I get it how like, you know, movies like Nymphomaniac probably did this whole thing better. But at the same time, Nymphomaniac has the upside of being more realistic by using real actors. - That's true. - I mean, we shouldn't have like the biggest thing is- - I guess it's hard for me personally, who's never read "Dogens" to see this and be like, damn, that's fucking, that's art, man.

- It's a tall hurdle. - We literally just chucked you in a deep end and just like fit, like try to see if you can crawl your way out. - It's like, I'm not used to this genre. - Yeah. - I mean, I don't think anyone is- - All these kind of tropes in here. And then there's this girl who happens to believe is this kind of well done character. And I'm like, yeah, I don't believe it man, personally at least.

- I mean, at least you gave it a go. At least you can now say you read "Men of War." - I've read it. I'm not proud of that fact, Jerry. I wanna undo the reading that I've done. - So what would you give it out of 10? - In terms of what? - In terms of just like how you felt about it. - Four. - Four? - It's an interesting read. - And what would you give it? - 10. - Hell yeah. - Fuck off. - Hell yeah. - What does Sydney think of it?

- I don't know what Sydney thinks of it. - You should ask her what she thinks of it. - And frankly, I'm afraid to ask because I- - She'll be like, "It's the hardest shit that she would- - I've just said it with the dad. - I have heard too many things that have worried me in the past few months of my relationship that I'm kind of afraid to ask her opinion of any hentai right now.

- I guess we'll leave it at that then. - Jesus Christ. - I appreciate you guys introducing me to the wonderful world of-

- So has this experience changed your perspective at all? - I mean, I still have my preferred methods. I got my systems in place. - But would you ever in your life go back to like try another doujin? - If I was recommended a doujin that was highly praised, I would go and read it. I mean, it's not too difficult. Hopefully it's not too long.

- I would say the biggest appeal about reading doujins or highly rated doujinshi is like, you've talked about finding that one hentai that's fucking like the diamond in this pool of shit, right? There's so much choice with doujinshi because there's obviously so much, right? - Infinite amount of tags. - There's way more choice than there is for hentai. And you can find,

way more doujins that are like specifically garnered to your choice. - I just really enjoy voice acting so much. And especially in that manner, I really enjoy what it adds to it. I feel like it helps sell my believability. - To me, the best tag you can possibly get is plot.

- Plot is the best spice. - Isn't it tragic that it has to be a tag though? It's not a given that everything has to be- - No, no, I don't want plot in my- - Some people are like, "No, no, no, I don't want the plumber turning up today. I don't want the pizza man delivering a pizza." - The fact that we're talking about the plumber and the pizza man just shows how fucking devoid of plot every fucking porno is that we've gotten this kind of mentality where it's like, "Plot's kind of hot." Knowing the context of why people are fucking, that's kind of hot.

- Is that such a hot take? - Me not being a fucking monkey and just scratching my nuts to people fucking, you know, great, fantastic, you know, wow. - My God. Well, I'm just glad Connor that we managed to finally do this episode. 'Cause we've been talking about doing this episode for quite a while now. We were like two out of three, love Dojin.

- Monkey man over here doesn't wanna read. - I feel at this point we should just make it like a bi, is it bi-yearly? Bi-yearly? - Bi-yearly. - Is it twice a year? - Yeah. - We'll do it. - Doji and the hentai episode, right? - Yeah, this is like about six months after the hentai episode. We'll do another hentai episode in six months. - Oh my God, it's already been six months. - Yeah, I know, right? - Jesus Christ. - We just talk so fucking much, don't we?

- Honestly, this has been such a fucking episode. It's such a fucking fun episode to film. - A fucking episode. It has been a fucking episode. - This has been a fucking episode. That's what it's been. - You know, the succubus one, I'm praying gets it. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So out of the seven, what's your favorite? - Can I rank them in order? - Sure. - All right, metamorphosis zero. - Oh my God. - Metamorphosis is the worst one. - Okay, least favorite to most favorite. So metamorphosis. - Okay, so...

Metamorphosis is by far the worst one. Very close. Last second, last place. The fucking Orimo one. Fuck that one. Fuck that one. So that's what? Gone in the bottom so far. Yeah. I will say that probably after that is, it's gotta be the,

- The first one. - Dora Yusagi. - Yeah, that one I wasn't too fond of. And then third, I guess is, this is difficult. - Seikatsu Shukan. - Seikatsu Shukan. - Okay, okay. Shota. - The Shota one, yeah. - Fourth, I'll give it to the Sensei one. - Okay.

- Fifth I'll give it to Pizuhame. And first place I'll give it to Succubus. - Wow. - So two of yours are my favorite. - That's pretty balanced then. - That's pretty balanced actually. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's not bad. - Well you recommend the Succubus one, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So yeah, I'd say- - And the Pizuhame is my one.

- Yeah, I'd say you both gave me, you know, I was shocked. I was expecting worse from you. I was expecting lolly or gang bangs from Jerry and from you Garnt, I was expecting the whole family fucking each other. - I mean, we could have recommended that to you. - We got pretty fucking close with the Ori-Mae one, right?

- The whole family came out for fun with that one. Fuck me. - And you haven't finished "Piece of Harmony" so I'm just gonna leave it there. - The thing is we can only recommend three. So like when you're choosing three doujinshi, that's like a fucking hard choice. It's like choosing between your children. I was just like, I wanted to recommend like one of the top tier MILF ones, but I'm just like,

- There's not enough space. - Next time you can recommend me like one good one and two ones that you know I'll fucking hate. - Honestly, you know what you can do? Give us a list of tags and we'll find you something. - MILF, MILF, MILF, MILF, stepmom. - Stepmom, stepmom, stepmom, stepmom. - Mother knows breast. I don't know. - It's like the, I don't like incest,

- I'd like to tell you boys that I'm gonna go here, I'm gonna go home today a changed man reading "Dogins", but I'm not, I'm definitely not. - Next one is the "Eregei" episode. So we gotta recommend some "Eregei". - No, 'cause they're like 10 hours long. - No, they're like 100 hours. What I wanna do for the next episode is like the "Adult Manwa". - Oh, that's a good one. - That's a genre I've been getting into. And honestly, I think "Adult Manwa",

- Story-wise is even better than some Da Jinci. - Yeah, we can recommend Connor some Adol Mawa. - I feel like Connor would very much be into Adol Mawa. - Corrupting me slowly. I'm a man of the Lord. I've never been corrupted until today. - Hey, if you also like to be corrupted or watch this episode uncensored, then make sure to support us on Patreon. Patreon.com/trashtest. - Look at all these lovely degenerates. - Look at all these lovely degenerates who are already there, probably watching this

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