The Japanese Food You've Never Tried | Trash Taste #17
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I am your host for today, Gigguk. And with me today, I do not have a guest.

- This feels so refreshing. Like for like the first few times we've had guests on and I just haven't been able to like sit in the center where I deserve to be. - I love how the, as well as the subreddit has come up with this controversy or like conspiracy that, oh, Garnt is the one that always hosts all the guest episodes because he's the most social out of the three. It's like, no. - No, there is no conspiracy. It was just a coincidence that both times it was my scheduled time to be a guest, but this is my time now. I get this side.

- Finally, you're sitting by yourself. You get an entire camera to yourself. - Yeah, I know. And we've meeting again with the boys as per usual. - What was that drop in energy, Garnt? You just felt like sad, bro. - I know. - It's Giga. - And the boys, whatever. - I should be the tired one.

I've been up since 4:00 AM. - Why were you up since 4:00? - I was doing fucking Carson's pool tournament. - Thank you for inviting all of us by the way, Carson. But there was only one madman between our group who was willing to wake up at like 3:30 AM. - Yeah, 3:30 AM and then I had Japanese school after. So I had to go into Tokyo and then I had to come back here and do the podcast. But Carson, fuck you.

for kicking me out of the tournament. I don't know if you guys probably didn't see this. I was crushing my opponent in pool. - Do you wanna explain the tournament? - So it was an eight ball pool tournament, right? And 64 bracket. And I was first to play, right? So I didn't have any knowledge of what the, this fucking pool table looked like an eight bit windows kind of game. It was fucking awful. He kept saying, "No, it's great," on the stream. It was fucking awful, Carson. I like you, Carson, by the way. - I like you, Carson, but I don't like your pool table. - This pool sucked, Carson. Anyway.

- Immediately I was against the Boatess and I just started clapping her dude. I was getting all of these balls in no problem whatsoever. And I was down to the eight ball. And then like something weird happened on the fucking and the pool thing, right? And I'm like, "Carson, what is this?" He's like, "Oh, don't worry, just click, just click." So I just clicked. I shouldn't have believed Carson 'cause of course he's gonna troll me. It's the first game. So I just ignored it, part of the black and I'm like, right.

"See you guys in the next round." I was about to leave the call and then they were like, "Wait, you lost Connor." I'm like, "What do you mean I lost?" Like, "Oh, you picked the wrong hole." I'm like, "It didn't give me..." Oh my God, Carson fucking played me though. Carson, why? - Because in eight ball you have to select which pocket you're gonna put the eight ball in. And if you put it in a different hole, then you automatically lose. - I feel so lied to because on mini clip on the eight ball pool game.

- Going way back. - But this is, it's from mini clip, right? The game, this game, which is the one that I know he plays all the time. You don't have to select a fucking pocket. You just hit it in any of them.

- That's normie rules. That ain't competition. - Justice for C-Dog, man. That's all I want. Give me my 20K cash prize. - The thing I noticed about playing pool is like, I swear every country I play pool in with like a different person, everyone has their own fucking rules. I don't know what happens half the time. - It's like Uno and Monopoly.

- It's like the free parking spot on Monopoly. Everyone just makes up their own fucking rules. No one knows what the actual rule is. - It's just, no, no. The actual rule is nothing happens. That's just, that's the actual rule. - Because in my house, what you would do is, you know how you have to pay

- The taxes. - There's like fifth taxes and like 50 bucks to get out of jail. All of that money goes into the middle and then if you land on free parking, you get the park. - I think that's hopeless optimism 'cause we like to think our taxes go somewhere, perhaps to someone else. They don't, they just get sucked into a hole. They don't get, nothing comes of your taxes. You're not happy about it, okay? That's what happens. I remember I saw this. - That makes more sense. - Yeah, nothing happens.

- I don't know how this one rule in Monopoly just got spread around like globally, even though it was like not on any rule books, I think. - Like pity rules. - I think because it's so depressing to do a role in Monopoly and it's like, wait, nothing?

- Nothing? Like not even like a bad thing? - Yeah. - No, no, it's just nothing. - Especially when it's already a game where nothing fucking happens sometimes. It's like, oh, I landed on my own property. - Could you imagine if there's a white circle on Mario Party and it was like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? Just nothing, nothing, nothing's gonna happen. Just white. - Have you guys ever completed a game of Monopoly? I have never completed a game of Monopoly. - Yeah, of course. - I don't know, I just don't have that

- I am so competitive that I will like trap everyone. - Of course you are. - I will trap everyone in the room until the game is over. - This just calls for a Monopoly episode now. We need to play Monopoly. - How long is a game of Monopoly meant to like last? - Depends how much you suck. - Because I've been in Monopoly games that have lasted like two, three hours and I'm just like,

- That's a short game. - I don't- - Wait, do you, okay, this is the thing, right? Some people don't do this. Do you let auctions happen? 'Cause I think in the rules auctions are, oh fuck, are they allowed? - Yeah, they're allowed. - I thought they were allowed. I could be wrong now. - I just get to a point in Monopoly where just like the money is just like, it's just circular. It's just like, you know what I mean? Where like people are just passing the counts for each other. That's exactly what it feels like playing a game

that I'm using. - I like to do the mind games. Just let my opponents know immediately from the get go, I'm out playing them and maybe they give up. - Maybe it would end faster if it wasn't for the free parking rule. - Yeah, probably. - Probably why. - I feel like that's what happens. It's like, oh shit, I've got 50 bucks left. Thank God I landed on free parking. $2,000 comes to me and then it just goes

- There shouldn't be a way for someone who has like no properties to get back in the game. They should be out. They deserve to be out for their poor financial decisions. - So maybe if we do play it on the podcast or whatever, then we should just completely get rid of that rule. - Exactly. - And free parking is just the way out. - We'll get Maylene on as well, right? - Yeah, exactly. - Maylene, do you wanna play Monopoly with us for an episode?

- Yeah, she said, yeah, she said, she said yes. - She said absolutely boys. - Going back to pool though, like what are the rules when you foul? 'Cause I swear there's like a different fucking rule in every country. When you do a foul, like do you get control of the white ball? Do you get two shots? Like what is the rule? What is the official rules? - I don't know what the official rules are, but my understanding is if you sink the white ball,

then you can place- - Put it wherever you want. - You can place it wherever you want. - But is it wherever you want past like a certain line? - No. - Or is it wherever you want- - That's what I thought it was. But apparently it's not. - Isn't that snooker? - Yeah, that's a different game of football. - Fuck dude, I don't wanna say anything 'cause I'm gonna be wrong no matter what I say. - We're probably wrong here. And there's gonna be someone in the comments that's like, "I know the international rules are cool. "You are all wrong." - If you put two in a row, multi-ball happens, right? Where there's-

- I'm chatting shit. - I thought you were like, just here we go. - I'm chatting shit. - I was like, multi-pot? What's that? Just sweating. - It's like pinball, right? When all the, it's the best part, man. - No, I think like, yeah, because every single person I've gone to Bagus with to play pool, they're just like, oh, it's two shots, right? It's like, no, no, no, no. It's behind this like white line and you have to shoot it forward.

"No, you can place it anywhere." It's different every single time. It's just like, whatever. - People just make up their own rules. There's always house rules. And I don't know, America works in its own system. Asia works on another system and Europe works on their own system. I don't fucking know. I just go with the flow most of the time. - Yeah, because recently I found out with Uno, right? Do you stack the plus two cards?

- Yeah, that's a rule. - No, it's not. - That's not a rule? - The official rule is you can't stack plus two. - That's so fucking boring. - I know. - That's so lame. - I looked it up because there was so many people were like, no, you can't stack plus two or you can stack plus two. And everybody thought, yes, of course you can stack plus two. That makes the game so much more interesting. I looked up the official rules. You can't stack plus twos.

- But that's not fun. - Exactly. - And also Joey fucking, I remember this pissed me off dude. It was like a 30 minute game of Uno and I just wanted it to end, right? And what I normally do in Uno is that I will save the all color cards until the end so that I can just win when I get Uno. And Joey was like, "No, no, you can't do that. You can't put down, it has to be a solid card." - That is an official rule.

- On the Uno game on the PC, you can do that. Explain that Joey. - PC is not canon. - We were also very drunk then when we were playing that game. - We were also shouting out like a different standard for the different colors. - I was just like asleep by the end of it. And Joey was the only one who wanted to drag on this suffering. - It was like 2:00 AM or something. We were all like heavily drunk. I was like struggling to keep my eyes open. - I wanted to go home. I wanted to sleep.

- When I ended the game, I was secretly like, yes, yes. It's finally over. Then Joey goes, excuse me, that is not a rule. You cannot end the game like that. - Look, if you're gonna put me through a 30 minute fucking UNO game, I wanna win. I wanna win on the proper rules. - It's UNO, who cares?

- Who gives a fuck, man? It's not even a skill-based game. - Yeah, it's not. - I just had fun just every time there was a red card, just being like, "What was it? It's like Magicians Red." Every single time. - The people in the other room must have thought, "What the fuck is happening in there?" They're just screaming "Magicians Red" every two seconds. - "Arfanto Green" every time we drop the green card.

- Before we move on to the actual topic of this podcast though, you talking about, what was it? Mini clip? Just reminded me of like all the, did you guys ever play like- - I spent my whole life on mini clip. - Do you guys remember like the good old fashioned flash games that you have to play on your school internet because actual games wouldn't work. - I remember being like in like the lunch break being like, yo, I know which website Bloons Tower Defense is on.

- It's all about the helicopter game, man. - Yeah, remember that helicopter game which was like pre Angry Birds? - Oh yeah, I remember that one. - It was the most difficult gameplay with just the space bar. - When somehow one of those websites with all of the games got through the filter, it was like opening the flood gates and you were like, holy shit. - Yeah, because I remember in my primary school, Miniclip was amazing.

- Oh yeah, Miniclip was planned. - But then someone was like, "I know a website called Albino Sheep."

And it's not blocked on the firewall. Don't tell the teachers. - It's got all the games. - Did you ever have someone like, 'cause in the schools, right, all the PCs are hooked up to like the main admin. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - One of the kids in my school like changed the like background of all the things and it was the funniest fucking shit. It was like, 'cause the teacher left the room for one moment and he changed all the backgrounds to alien versus predator.

but the predator was just like a priest.

And so a bunch of 13 year old kids are just doing their thing and they minimize like word document or like the fucking PowerPoint. And they just see like fucking like one of the popes holding hands with the predator, with the alien or something. And it was just the funniest fucking thing ever. I remember being so amused by this. - That is just peak 12 year old. - I love it. I remember just 12 year old me thought, man, nothing's ever gonna live up to this moment, bro. That was the funniest shit ever. - This is the best prank of all time.

- Just giga brain, bro. I can't imagine it. - I remember like IT class back in the day, like in school, IT class was just like a second playground. - Oh, did everyone just fucked around? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, it was, nobody actually did the work. And I remember like,

- If you had to do the work, it was like a five minute job. - Yeah, because they were teaching you stuff that you were probably already using. Like they used to teach us like Microsoft Word and PowerPoint, not even like Excel. And everyone, everyone at age like 10 already knows how to use like a PowerPoint. At least our age they did. I don't know about now, it might just be different. But when I was growing up, everyone knew how to use PowerPoint. Everyone had made a PowerPoint for like every other class that they had. - Yeah, but they had to go above and beyond by being like, "Do you know a thing called transitions?"

- They will really spice up a presentation. - Word art. - Yeah, clip art. - Oh God.

- God, I remember like first discovering transitions on PowerPoint and you just use that for every fucking slide and you thought you were the fucking shit. - Every single letter had a transition. - There was that one kid who would just do like, okay, bear in mind this transition is like 30 seconds long. Just watching each single letter just bounce into the screen. - The star shake in the middle. And the last little moment would take fucking forever to like lock in. I remember that one, man.

- I remember this one time in my IT class, we had to create a website, right? So we could choose a website on whatever topic we wanted to create. So at the time- - Why are we sponsored by Squarespace? - Perfect for Squarespace. But yeah, I chose to make a website on the original Nintendo DS, right? - Okay, very specific.

- Yeah, no, no, I don't know why. 'Cause I was a Nintendo kid back then. And I remember like, I was like doing a really good job. My teacher was like at the time really impressed at the website I had created because I was actually putting effort in and like the other kids who were just like dicking around like you do in IT class. - Yeah, of course. - And then he was asking me, "Oh, so what are you gonna name it?" And I was just 10 year old me. I was like nine or 10 years old, trying to think of the coolest name possible. I was like, "How about DS Dominator?" "No, no, I got a better one."

- How about DS dominatrix? 'Cause I was like dominator, like dominatrix for a nine year old who doesn't know what it means. Sounds like a cool fucking word. - It's like dominator and the matrix. - Yeah, that's exactly my mindset. And I just remember the teacher's face being like, probably shouldn't call it that. And I was like, why?

- That's a cool word, dominatrix. - Tell me why. - I'm gonna call it dominatrix. And he refused to let me call it dominatrix. And nine year old me was so fucking pissed 'cause I thought of a fucking brilliant name. - You don't understand me, the genius. - Have you seen the matrix? It's epic.

- So yeah, that's going back to GCSE IT class or whatever it was back then. - I had a similar thing where I also had to make a website as well for like my IT class. - I didn't have to make a website. - You didn't have to do that? - No. - Oh, okay. Because I- - I don't even think my teacher knew how to make a website. I don't think he was gonna teach us. - Because I had to make a website, but it was when I was like 16 years old. So it wasn't like 10 years old. And I was like, okay, I gotta think of a cool name for my website.

- How about the anime man? - Wait, does this still exist? - Yeah, it does exist. - Oh my God. - It's theanimeman.wordpress.com 'cause we used WordPress back then. - Did you like do anime reviews and all that shit?

- Oh, of course she did. - That's how I got started. - Is this where we can still go on this? - What? Oh yeah, it should be up there still. - Go on, pull it up. - I went on there like a year ago because I did a video where I was just basically roasting my own horrible reviews and they were absolutely garbage. - What was your very first review? - "Serial Experiments Lane." - Oh, that's a Herculean. - I wasn't like, "Fairy tale review, one piece review." - I feel bad for just reviewing Bleach for my first video.

- No, but I gained so much of, I don't know how the fuck people like came back. They were like, yeah, dude, I got to the point where people were like, I would like to request a review from you. Can you review this particular series? And I was like, okay. - Were there many anime reviews at that time though, in English? - There were a lot of like, there weren't a lot of people on YouTube who were doing it, but there were lots and lots of like anime blogs

- Yeah, it was pretty around 2000s, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - That was when blogs actually got views and everything like that. - Yeah. - It was 2010s. But then it got to the point where someone was like, "Hey, you should do some video reviews." - Yeah. - I was like, "Okay."

And then I did that and then- - That was the origin story. - And that's the origin story. - Fucking dusted off that chopper hat, you were like, it's time. - It's time. - The giant rainbow beanie as well that I used to wear. - God, so hideous. - Did you guys have that one really cool teacher in school? Like for me, it was the IT teacher. Like he didn't give a shit about what we did.

but every other teacher in my school at least was a fucking asshole. But there was just the one IT teacher for me that was really cool. - Yeah. - I had that, that was our physics teacher in high school. He was such a fucking character. And I don't know if he did it on purpose just to be entertaining because maybe he thought that not a lot of kids would take physics as a major. But I took physics 'cause I just found physics interesting. But it was just, imagine this like middle-aged, just completely bald dude.

and him trying to teach you about like how electrons move. And he's carrying around this giant stick. Like I'm talking like twice the size of a cricket bat, right? Like just as thick as a cricket bat. And in like marker on it, it's called the gentle persuader. - Oh my God. - And he would just swing this thing around. And whenever there was a kid who was asleep at his desk, he would just get the gentle persuader and just,

whack it on the table to get the kid to wake up. - It's always the physics teachers that are like the fucking nuttiest. They're always either the most passionate about it or insane. - But the absolute clap of a sound that this thing would make, like you could hear it probably from across the school of just this giant piece of wood clapping against another giant piece of wood. And the kids after a while, like after like two weeks, no kid would fall asleep in his class.

- Just 'cause he's just swinging his finger around. - That's asserting dominance as a teacher. - The dominatrix. - Asserting dominatrix right there. - No, but he was like really cool. Like he made physics really fun for me. And I feel that if I didn't have him as a teacher, I probably would have found like the whole, all the sciences and physics just really fucking tedious and boring. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I remember the first time I read "Great Teacher Onizuka." Fucking one of my favorite manga of all time. - So good. - And I remember- - I haven't read it.

- Yeah, to give you a synopsis, it's about like this teacher who is like a 22 year old delinquent, like never finished college, I don't think, or like was a dropout to college. And basically he takes over this delinquent classroom and just kind of reforms them. He doesn't teach them like the curriculum, he teaches them life lessons. And it's a pretty simple premise, but what sells it is how good of a teacher Onizuka is and just,

I wish I had a teacher like that in my own life. That was just, you know, Mr. Sullivan, IT teacher, I'm never gonna forget you, but you were no Onizuka. - You ain't great teacher, Solomon. - The coolest thing he did was let us call him by his first name a few times. - Oh yeah. - That's how you know. - That's how you know. - That's how you know. - Damn bro. - There's a special moment when you're in your senior year of high school where your teacher's like,

just call me by my name. And he's like, "Yeah, all right, all right, man." - You're the real one, man. - We're real bros now. - We're friends, right? - Yeah, we're friends. - We're friends, right? - Yeah, I don't know. My biology teacher was really nice. She was so cool. I did so many dumb stuff that she was like, she had my back. She was like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

- She was teaching a class and this guy, so one of the guys was like, I was having a fight with him and I fucking rammed him through her class door and the door slammed open, like absolutely like smacked her like whiteboard and stuff and made so much noise. And yeah, she didn't tell me off. She was like, it's okay. She was like, I know he's a piece of shit.

- I got you bro, I got you. - This kid drove all the teachers insane. He was the worst bro. And he always got away with it. 'Cause the teachers just stopped like, do you ever have that kid where the teacher just gave up? 'Cause they were like, he's such a piece of shit. There's no point even trying to discipline him. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was that kid. I'm sure you guys know. - Yeah, I think we all had that one kid in school. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like when my phone went off on an exam, which is not good. - Just like normally an auto fail. - Yeah. - Yeah, so like what happened was is that

I was like super into enter Shikari, right? At this age. - Of course you were. - So my second name is C, right? - Yeah. - On the exam. So I was right at the front always. - Yeah. - And I turned my phone off, right? And I didn't realize my phone could turn itself on to turn the alarm on. - What?

- I did not know. Is that true? - Some phones could do this. Some phones could do older phones. - What kind of sentient shit is that? - This is the back of the day when the phones had the batteries you could take out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so my other friend, I remember distinctly before the exam, he was like, "I'm taking the battery out, dude, just in case." I'm like, "That's fucking dumb, bro. "I'm just leaving mine in, man." And then obviously, I was sitting down in my history exam

And I hear this mumble in the back and I'm like, "Fucking idiot, whose phone is that? "What a fucking loser." I finished the exam comfortably. I kept getting louder and I was like, "Whatever." And then I go to like to the back to get, 'cause you put all your bags in the back. And I'm like, "Where's my bag? "Where the fuck's my bag?" And then I was like, "Fuck, is that my phone?" "No, no, no, it's not right." I got fucking grilled by the headmaster who was like, "You trying to cheat?"

trying to cheat, they were like, you know this alarm, and it was fucking enter Shikari. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like in the like fucking whatever room it was while I was doing this two hour of exams, right? It was just in the like the reception area. They were keeping it. They were like, you know, it kept going off. And I'm like, alarms tend to do that, yeah. - Out of every ringtone you could have chosen, you chose fucking enter Shikari. - Because that shit woke you up, man. - I don't know, like I would never, like I've tried,

putting like my favorite song as an alarm. And then you realize after about a month, you hate the song. 'Cause I remember in university, I did like exactly the same with like the killers or like sometimes Muse. And I'm just like, well, I hate the song now. This is not why I picked the alarm. - It's because this Enchicada song at the time was like their most popular and it just started off with

Do you know this one? - Yeah. - And the server was like immediately screaming. And yeah, so then I was just like, I remember I was fucking like tearing up. I'm like, no, I'm not trying to cheat. It's just an alarm bro. And they're like, can you prove it? And I'm like, it says nine o'clock man. It's a little alarm bell and everything.

'Cause they treated it, bear in mind, right? This school is like 200 kids total. This is a high school with 200 kids. This is like a very small school. And they have my bag on the table, like at an airport being like, "Open it up." "Open it up, what's inside?" - It's like TSA. - Yeah, yeah. They're literally like, "It's a bomb." They're like, "Open it up, what's inside, bro? "What's inside?" And I pull it out, it's the phone doing it. And then, yeah, they asked me, "What was it?" And they're like, "Can you prove it's an alarm?" I show them it's alarm, they're like, "I'm calm."

And then they just let me go. - Well, imagine if they grilled you being like the shit song. - End of Shikari, what are you? - I think I stopped listening to End of Shikari after that. 'Cause I think every time I got like, 'cause bear in mind, right? As a 16 year old thinking that you're possibly gonna be like kicked out of like

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was like traumatic as fuck. I'm like, fuck dude, my mom's gonna kill me. I'm gonna be destroyed for life. But luckily they gave me a slap on the wrist. Although I'm pretty sure they should have like disqualified that exam result, but they did. - I purposely chose a song that I knew I was going to hate because that just, especially if it was like an alarm to wake me up because you can't listen to an alarm of a song that you hate for too long. - Yeah. - Right, so it just- - That's actually really clever. - It further incites me to be like, I gotta turn this shit off immediately. So I chose fucking "Yan Cat."

- I like "Nyan Cat." - I did not. I could not listen to that for more than five seconds. - Exactly, I was like this perfect alarm material. 'Cause at the moment, imagine just like 8:00 AM and you're just having a nice sleep and then just from downstairs, you just hear . It's like, "Shit, I gotta." - Songs like that help me get in the zone though. Like when I'm gaming, repetitive. - "Nyan Cat?" - Dude, I could, man.

- I remember I got like four hours in. - This fucking brain, man. This fucking brain. - What's the dance till you're dead song? You know the one. - Dance till you're dead. - Yeah, the 10 hour compilation. - In one gaming session, I got like six hours into the...

- The Deku dance to your dead thing. - To be fair, that song is sick. I have gone through like a few hours of that 10 hour mix up. - That song when you're gaming, dude, it's like you're in the fucking zone. And then you check over, you see Deku headbanging and you're like, nice.

- That song is just like audible crack. Especially when you're gaming. - It's hacking your brain, bro. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just probably gets you in a zone. Nyan Cat on the other hand is just the complete opposite of that where it's just like this really annoying noise that you just can't pinpoint. - Yeah, yeah. Nyan Cat is like audible heroin, right?

It just doesn't do anything for you. It just makes you feel sluggish. - With audible heroin. Does heroin not do anything for you, Joey? What are you taking, bro? - It's more just like the more you take, the more you're just like, I can't function as a human. - This is obviously coming from an analogy from three people who have never taken heroin before. - It's like that office joke, right? Where it's like, why do they always talk about it's like crack? They've never tried crack.

- That's actually one of the few jokes I love from the office. - I remember one time I was hanging out with Jeff, mother spaceman. Sorry, Jeff, I'm gonna call you out for this. But I remember we were, I think it was at an AX party and we were talking about like how much crazy, like some crazy shit that we've done. And I was talking about, oh yeah, it's like downing a pint of cocaine. I'm like, that's not how you do cocaine.

- It was just the blinking memes like, "That's not how cocaine is done. You don't down a pint of cocaine." - Have you downed a pint of anything? - So yeah, thank you for that, Jeff. I'm definitely gonna be using that in the future. - And the subreddit is definitely gonna be using that too, I guarantee. - It's like downing a pint of cocaine. Talking about downing things. - Snorting a line of heroin.

- To get to the actual topic that we were gonna talk about before we went on this massive tangent, as we always do. I guess we wanted to talk about food, right guys? - I love food. - I love food, who doesn't love food? - I only exist for the next meal. - I love consuming things in my mouth. That came out really wrong. - I'm glad you prefaced the way you do it. - Perhaps a pint of cocaine.

- I love when the final cocaine is in my mouth. - Yeah, I guess the reason I wanted to bring this up is Joey, you recently chose to become a pescatarian. - Yes, but let me explain. - A pescatarian in like inverted commas. - Yes, yes. So I didn't decide to like fully transition because I like meat too much. But I figured just for about a month, Aki and I were like, let's see if we can be pescatarian because I feel if,

there's any country that is perfect to be a pescatarian, it would be Japan. Because pescatarian, if you don't know, means it's basically vegetarian, but you can also eat fish. - Fish aren't animals, they don't have souls. - Yeah, exactly. It's not real meat. Fish aren't real meat.

So yeah, so I figured just as like, not so much like as a morality thing, but more just to better my diet and just eat a little bit healthier. We were like, okay, let's try and be pescetarian for like one month because it's gonna be the, so basically my last month of my 25th year is gonna be me as a pescetarian.

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the meal didn't have meat in it, it's not a meal. - Yeah, that's how I feel. - Maybe that's like, is that a British thing? - I don't think so. I think it's an Asian thing as well. Like I remember, I still to this day, I cannot get full unless I have some kind of meat. - Just give me a crumb of chicken. - Like I do count fish as meats, but if I just have no meat. - There needs to be like something dead on my plate.

- No, that's how it is though. I need something dead on my plate unless like, 'cause I've tried having like vegetarian meals and then I get,

and then I get hungry an hour later without fail. - Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess- - And I don't know if that's like a mental thing, my body's like, bro. - There's probably some diet expert watching us who can explain. We're just gonna go off all anecdotal evidence. So don't take anything we say seriously. - Yeah, so basically, yeah, I figured, you know, I like fish a lot and Japan is such a seafood heavy country where you could walk down the road and get some sushi or go to the supermarket and buy pre-cooked fish or stuff like that. And all of it tastes so good.

- It's so fucking good. - It's also, you also don't have to worry about it here, I feel. Like I, dude, whenever someone ordered like oysters or shit in a like not extremely expensive place in the UK, I'm like, bro,

- Oysters are like, you never order oysters unless you trust the place you're ordering oysters from. - Also if the curry place, the Indian curry place, don't fuck with shrimp. - That's always a coin flip no matter what. - At least in the UK that is a fucking gamble unless you have a place. Even if you have a place you're like, but do they treat the seafood correctly? They've probably got it. - I need to have seen this fish die in my face. - I feel like there are some certain cuisines

Like in the UK. - In the UK especially. - No, not just in the UK. It's like in Thailand, especially. Like street food in Thailand tastes amazing. But would you trust it for like to pass hygienic tests? Not exactly. But it doesn't stop it from tasting. You take that risk. And some of the dirtiest looking places

- I don't know why. - But it's like at AX, right? When you're walking down AX and those hot dog stands are there. - Oh yeah. - And they've had these hot dogs in these like cardboard packaging and it's been out there all fucking day. And then they just chuck them on the grill and sure it looks amazing on the grill, right? But like those have been soggy for like eight hours. - Yeah, dude, they smell fucking.

- No, they do. They smell amazing. But it's like, what is it? Like the fucking succubuses, right? Unlike all the stories, right? They look amazing, right? It's too good to be true. Don't, your stomach's gonna hate you. The only people, every time someone gets sick at a convention, it's always 'cause they go to- - It's always the hot dog. - 'Cause they always eat one of those things. And I'm like, why did you do it? And they're like, it just looks so good.

- I couldn't help myself. And it's like dumb fuck. There is like a Denny's, there was like everything around here. I'm not saying actually- - There's literally a Chick-fil-A down there. - I say that, but Denny's is probably a gamble as well. - In America, definitely.

- But I kind of had a similar thing in the Philippines with street food because the one time I went to the Philippines to go see Aki's family, I was like, you know, there's all this amazing looking street food, but I feel if I don't make the right choice, I'm probably just gonna die on the road. So it was really weird. I did like get not food poisoning, but I definitely got like some bad diarrhea from one of the street food. But it was from a mango.

- Wow. - Yeah. Which is weird, right? You wouldn't expect- - I feel really do you like that, man. - Yeah. It was like of all the weird things- - That's why I don't eat meat, man. - Yeah. I had fucking Bullwut that I just bought off a random woman on the street. Bullwut is a duck feeders, right? - Oh dude, that shit looks nasty, bro. - You would think that that would get me sick, but no.

- It wasn't the fetus, it was a fucking mango. - I can understand if you've grown up with food like that, but how can you, as an Australian Japanese dude, see a fucking bird and just be like, "Yo, fucking, that looks tasty, bro. Give me two of those." - Hey man, Aki's dad was like, "Yeah, that shit tastes good." I'm like, "All right, I trust you." And so I bought two. Is that the weirdest thing you've eaten?

- It's probably the weirdest thing I've eaten. - I trust people when they say that, but I'm looking at them the whole time like, I do not expect anything from this. I'm gonna eat it just to entertain you, but I'm expecting this to taste like shit. - I mean, yeah, I filmed a video on it as well. It's on my second channel, but like I went hot because apparently Aki told me that like, oh yeah, this is like one of the, you know, Fear Factor, right? - Yeah. - Apparently she said that, oh, this Balut stuff is like one of the last foods that they eat on Fear Factor. It's like, if you can eat this, then you can eat anything.

but it's just a duck fetus. - I'll eat it, I'm just not gonna be happy about it. - I looked at that motherfucker dead in the eyes when I ate it too. - Wake up, wake up. - I was like, yes, you are going into my stomach. - It's like in Japan, they have this at the sushi restaurants, normally fish restaurants, they have like the sperm sac

And this shit is disgusting. - Oh, shirako? - Yeah, dude. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And even when you speak to Japanese, they're like, yo, you either just despise that shit or you love it. - It's in a quiet sense. - It is a quiet, yeah. - It looks like a brain that has lost all the water. Like it's fallen apart, right? It's all untangled, bro. - Yeah.

And then when someone's like, "What is it? "Oh, no, just try it, hee hee." And then you try it and like, "Oh, it's a sperm sack." - With the sperm in it. - And it tastes like how you would imagine a sperm sack would taste. - It does feel like you just got jizzed in the mouth. - No, no, it totally does. 'Cause I remember the weirdest thing I would say I'd had was in China where it's, you know, I was with a friend and their family and I don't know what it is.

I don't know if this is an Asian thing, but whenever they see a foreigner trying, they always ordered like the most exotic food and then try to get them to try it. My parents do exactly the same and their family did exactly the same to me. So they were ordering all this weird shit and then they ordered this soup.

and they tell me, "Oh, try the soup. It's just beef soup." So I start chowing down on this beef soup. And then I was like, "Hmm, this is all right. This is all right." And then I get to this like really chewy parts that I have to like really like-

- I think I know what it is. - Bite my way through. - Right. - I'm like, oh, what is this? And it had like the most awful aftertaste you can imagine. It just like stayed in your mouth forever. And then I asked them, what the hell was that chewy bit? And then my friend asked their family and they translate it to me. And they said, oh no, that's probably the bull's testicles. I'm like, hold on a second, what is this? Oh, this is a bull's penis soup. And I'm just like,

- Why did you not lead with that? - Yeah, this feels like information I should have been told at the start of this meal. - They knew exactly what they were doing. They were like, "Oh, this is beef soup. This is beef soup. You can have this." - I don't know. I'm one of those people who would not be mad at that kind of stuff just because I want to- - For your dick, bro. - Yeah, I wanna try all the weird shit. Like, because I know- - No, I do as well. I do as well. - Yeah, because I know, right? I know if I went to a restaurant like that by myself and I looked at the menu and I saw bull's penis testicle,

- Oh my God, Joey. That was a fountain, bro. - Joey's like salivating at the thought. - Bull's feet, sorry. It's like, it just tasted so good. - See, it's like people like that, right? I'm like, yeah, order it, order it. I'm gonna look you in the eye. I'm gonna eat this shit. I want you to know that I'm gonna eat it. And I'm gonna tell you it tastes like shit. I'm not gonna give you the satisfaction of you going like, "Ew!" - But again, if I saw that on the menu, I probably wouldn't order it myself.

- No, there's no way. - The beef burger. - Yeah, I'll get something that I'm familiar with. So I would rather someone just order me some weird shit and then trick me into eating it so that I could be like, well, I may not have enjoyed it, but hey, now I can say that I've eaten bull's testicles. - I don't think I'd be very happy if someone had been like, hey, that's a dick. And I'm like, damn. - To be fair, they disguise it very well. - You know, sometimes- - Is it gay?

- It didn't look like a dick, 'cause it was like all minced up into like a ball. - I didn't think they would just chop it off and be like, there we go. - It's just a full dick. It's just like a full dick on a plate. I'm like, what is this? Oh, it's just ball meat. And I'm like,

- What kind of bull meat? That looks very much like a testicle right there. - I think the problem is with stuff like this for me, and I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this. I don't want my fucking meals to be a fucking like adventure game for someone, dude. I just wanna eat, bro. Like sometimes I just wanna enjoy my meal, have a nice time. - You just wanna skip the story, right?

- And not turn it into like a fucking Bear Grylls TV show in the middle of this restaurant. You know what I mean? Like, I hate it when people try and do that. They're like, try this awful thing. I'm like, why would I try that awful thing? You've just told me it's awful. Why are you trying to make me eat something awful? - I'm the complete opposite. I will happily be like, yeah, I'll do that. - Joey's that guy in a restaurant where he just like orders the weirdest shit. - Yeah, you and Aki both do it. We sitting down, it'd be like, so who ordered the slime shit? Who ordered that?

Oh, I like that. And I'm like, that's a lie. You don't like it. You're just ordering it to make yourself look like your fucking bad grills at this is a car. Just admit it. Okay. Admit it. No one likes it. - I love the fact that every time we get to that moment, every time without fail, you're like,

"Do you guys want to try some?" And every time we just say, "No, Joey, that doesn't look appetizing." - But I want you guys to try it. - Joey finishes, what is it? What is this goop shit you always get? What is it? You know the goop. - Oh, takawasa? - Yeah, it's fucking awful. - Yeah, it's like octopus and wasabi and you put it in a blender. - I've never seen any Japanese person order it around me. - What do you mean? I know plenty of Japanese people who eat it. Why do you think it's like a staple menu at Izakaya? - Nah, it's on the bottom, dude.

And then after that, there's this other like fish that,

that I don't know how they prepare it, but it's just got the consistency of a tire with no taste. - Oh, the toenail. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the toenail thing. - It tastes and looks like a toenail. - And it feels like a toenail. - It's ray, it's stingray. - Stingray fin, right? - It's the kind of thing where it's like, yeah, sure, when I'm drunk enough, I'll chew on it and I'll have no complaints. But when it's like, I want to have a meal, why would I fill myself up with something that doesn't taste like anything and takes me 10 minutes to eat

and just frustrates me. - You had that the other day, right? When we went to a restaurant and I ordered, I ordered the rubbery stuff. - Joey was like, it's zero calories. And I'm like, so what if it's zero calories? - Well, because you're always on about like how many calories does this have? - No, no, no, no, no. I'm just thinking like sometimes, you know, in a meal, you're like, all right, I don't wanna kill myself, right? - Yeah, my dad described that at once as eating an eraser.

- Yeah, that's pretty much what it looks like. - It's like sometimes when you hear zero calories, you're like, oh, it's gonna taste bad. - 'Cause celery has zero calories. I don't know if you've eaten celery on its own. - Of course I have. - Yeah, it takes more on its own. Oh bro, celery tastes like shit on its own. - No. - Yeah, it does taste like shit. - It tastes like ass, bro. - What the fuck? - It tastes like paint. - That's not even a quiet taste. - It just tastes like paint remover in vegetable form. - It's like Brussels sprouts.

- No, I love Brussels sprouts. - Get the fuck out. Brussels sprouts is like F tier vegetable. Why do people put it on roast? Everyone's just, it's a massive lie. It's a massive lie. - I love Brussels sprouts, man. They're great. - Get rid of those fucking Brussels sprouts on my roast. - 'Cause they have such like a really nice distinct flavor to them that no other veg has. - Yeah, it tastes awful. It's like bitter. - Hey, man. - I don't know. It's just like anti-umami with the roast. - Do you like broccoli? Do you like broccoli?

- Broccoli's okay, but you have to keep in mind, we're talking to someone who doesn't like ketchup. - Yeah, so Garnt- - Like what the fuck? - Okay, before we go into more in-depth food discussion, Garnt doesn't like condiments, basically. - I just like the way things are meant to taste. - So barbecue sauce, no? - No, no. - Ketchup? - I just like- - No, we're gonna go through all the condiments here just to make sure. - Mustard? - Yeah, mustard, no. - Mustard, if it's just like the beans. - Mayo, you don't like any mayo, right? - No, I don't like mayo.

- Tabasco or anything like that maybe? - Tabasco, I don't really see that as a condiment. It's something like if I need an extra kick to make it more spicy. - So when you eat like fries, it's just plain? - Yeah, it's just salt and pepper. - That's so sad. - Just salt and pepper fries. - That's so sad. - No, that's why I like my thin fries 'cause it like absorbs the spices. - It's just oil. - We said that the other day, 'cause we were talking about how we like the thick cut fries. - I like the thin fries.

- But then Garth was like, "Oh, I don't like the thick fries 'cause I taste the potato." I'm like, "Yeah, that's what a chip is." - No, I want to taste, you know, this is gonna sound so bad. Like it's the oil flavor or the salt and pepper flavor. If it's like too much potato, you're just eating, it just feels like eating starch with no flavorings. - Yeah, but sometimes if it's done perfectly, that starch is just.

- And it works so well when you put it with like ketchup or like mayonnaise or whatever you put with chips. - Yeah, when you mix the ketchup and mayo together, you get a nice burger sauce. - Oh, that's awesome. - That makes me gag so bad, man. I fucking hate ketchup and mayo. Like ketchup and mayo. - Go eat your dick, bro.

- Ketchup and mayo by themselves are like disgusting enough to me, but to mix them together and they form this like pink color, I'm just like, get that shit out of my face, man. - No, fry sauce is so good. - Okay, so like,

- Can you like go into like- - I can't be the only one here. I can't be the only fucking one here. - No, I think in this case you are the only one. - When you go into like any like normal chain in the UK, you can't get it 'cause it's called burger sauce, right? - It's called Thousand Island sauce. - Is it Thousand Island sauce? - Yeah, I love Thousand Island sauce. - Yeah, but they don't do it in like McDonald's, KFC or whatever. - That's like ranch with ketchup, right?

I think so, but mayo with ketchup mixed is just burger sauce in the UK. - Oh yeah, it's called fry sauce in the UK. - And you can't get it unless you go to those like dirty chicken shops in London. You go to them and you gotta like fucking haggle with them just to get like the fucking like ketchup. They're like, they're so stingy, bro. They won't give you anything. And I used to go into mine all the time, dude. And I felt like I was getting mugged off of that. 'Cause I was like the only white guy in this area. And I would always go in like, yes, I would like five wings.

and then people come in like, "Yo, what's up, boss man? "I'll have the wings set." And I'm like, "Fuck, dude, oh, Jesus Christ." I felt so out of place 'cause I just didn't know how to talk. Do I say boss man to the guy? Can I say boss man? Is that weird? I feel weird going, "Yes, I'll just take a fry, please, "and a tango." - Yeah, I'll take a fry, boss man. - Yeah, and I just felt bad when there was like 12-year-olds fighting in the area next to me and I'm just trying to order the chicken. I'm like, "I just want the meal."

Can I have burger sauce please? While the other guys are fucking like jumping over the counter to grab it. They would do that. They would put their hands over the counter and grab the shit. - Really? - Yeah, the fucking owners of the shit. - The fucking audacity. - I know, the audacity of these bitches. - Actually there is one sauce that I do like and it's very specific, but it's peri-peri or nabe sauce. - Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But are they in the same category? - No, no, no, that's like a marinade. - Yeah, that's 'cause like, I feel like if it's more on like the marinade side of things, I love marinade. - That's like teriyaki, right? - Yeah, yeah, exactly.

- Do you have Nando's in Australia? - Yeah, we do, but it's fucking expensive. So no one goes to it. - It's amazing in the UK. - I fucking miss Nando's here. I miss it so much. - Cheeky Nando's, boys. - Yeah, to be fair, I feel UK, I tried Nando's in the UK and it's infinitely better than the one in Australia. - People always chat shit about it, but like,

- The thing is, is that it's like the perfect in between a fast food place and a restaurant where sometimes you just want the chicken and you wanna get out. You just don't wanna feel like shit. - It's one of the few places in the UK that we can be proud of in terms of like food because when you think of British cuisines, you're like, "What can we be proud about?"

- Oh yeah, beans on toast. That's British cuisine, right? - Man, what's with British people getting bullied online all the time now, man? Remember when it used to be British people were like cool in 2012 and Harry Potter was in full steam and Tumblr loved British people. And then now it's just like, "Ha ha, he said 'choes-tay'." He said 'choes-tay' innit? - You chew. - Water, water, water. - Bottle. - He likes beans on, yes, I like beans on toast, okay? I can eat it as many times as I need to, God damn it. - There's a limit with me with beans.

- Why do you say beans like that? - Why? - 'Cause it's a funny word. - I love like saying joining the B and beans. - I can imagine if I wasn't born in the UK, I would think baked beans are just like, why would you ever eat baked beans? - Well, I mean, 'cause in Australia we eat baked beans quite often as well. Like sometimes I would eat it on toast. Sometimes I would just fucking crack open a can and just eat it by itself. - Yeah, in university I basically lived off just beans in cans and I would just heat them up and eat them for dinner. - That sounds disgusting to me. - Oh yeah, it was. - I wouldn't be able to live off

- I didn't know how to cook. So I would just boil pasta and put salt on it and eat the pasta. - I love how the cooking experience at university is just how many ways can I cook pasta? It's just that. - It took me like a year to figure out that you could just pour the pot sauces on top of the pasta. Because I really-

- I was so like content and I didn't wanna look stupid in front of my uni, like the maze. And I remember my mom like offered to teach me how to cook and I was like, I don't need that. How hard can it be? - I got this. - How hard can it be? So yeah, I was eating like plain pasta and beans for like a year. It's pretty depressing. - And like cup ramen. Cup ramen is fucking great. - The first day of university, I went and bought like a crate of pot noodles, ripped off them. That was beautiful.

- You can't go wrong with pork noodles though. - We should probably get back onto Japanese food, shouldn't we? - Well, going back to, well, going back to, or like recently,

- Funnily enough, I just went to the Cup Ramen Museum in Yokohama. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which the only reason we went to the Cup Ramen Museum was just because- - It was just there. - It was just there. I was like, whatever, it's something to do. But it was actually like really interesting and really fun. It was not some place I thought to go that would be like a fun, exciting place to go, but it was fun to learn about Cup Ramen. Like I had no idea that basically Cup Ramen

because of Americans. Because like instant noodle was like invented, right? And like the usual packeted way. And then they tried to sell it to America and Americans were just like, how do we eat this? Well, you have to use a fucking chopstick with bowls. Like that's too inefficient. So they just start putting it in like their soda cans or the, no, not the soda cans, the soda cups. Just like poured like, put the soda in the cup

put the ramen in and just put hot water in. And that's how cup ramen was invented. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, it was- - So cup ramen is an American invention? - Yeah, well, it's- - No, no, it was invented in Japan, the method of doing with the noodles. - Yeah, but it was when they tried to sell it to Americans that he saw Americans doing that. And he was like, "Let's just put it in the fucking cup." So thank you, America, for cup ramen. - And yeah, if you're in prison, it's your currency. - Cup ramen currency. - See that one Vox video? It's actually currency in most prisons. That's so funny.

- But yeah, in terms of like Japanese food, what are some Japanese food you want more people to know about or that you have discovered since moving to Japan that maybe not many people like know about? - Well, you know my answer. - Yeah, I mean, I already know your answer. We've talked about this before. Go on, Joey. Go on, simp for your dish. Go on. - Yes, I'm simping for a little dish called skimin.

It's not ramen, it's skimen. So basically skimen to oversimplify, think of ramen, but separate the noodles from the broth and make that broth thick as a bitch. - I will say when I first, when I was first like, I saw it on the menu, I was like, why the fuck would I want my noodles separated from the broth?

That sounds like it's like de-marinating. - Yeah, an extra step, right? - Yeah, it sounded like it was just making the noodles less flavorful. - It just didn't make any logical sense. - But somehow it makes the noodles even more flavorful when you dip them into this and you basically have the broth on the noodles.

- Because the thing with ramen broth is that it's very liquidy because the noodle is gonna be sitting in this broth for a long, long time. - And you can drink it. - And you can drink it, right? But skim in broths, they have to make it thick because when you put the noodles in and then you take it out again, as you said, the broth has to stick to the noodle. And that shit is the,

The flavor of that is so fucking powerful. - And then when you're done eating the noodles, you can pour like a soup into the broth to like dilute it to make it drinkable. - It's basically like concentrated ramen. That's basically the first time, but like, I don't know, because I feel like no matter what we say or how much we try to sell it,

- You can't sell it in words, right? - Because it doesn't look as pretty as ramen. Ramen is so pretty. - And like you explain it logically and you're just like, that just sounds like ramen with extra steps. What makes it so amazing? - That's exactly what you guys said when I tried to sell it to you guys and I was like, trust me, let's go to one of my favorite skimming places in Igibuguro and you can just eat it and tell me. And I took them to this place- - I remember we were like chatting the biggest, the maddest shit. We were like, yeah,

- Sure Joey, sure whatever. And then we got the dish and we just sat there in like silence for a good like 10 minutes as we were just eating this. And I remember like, I remember the second place you took me to, I swear it took me, I had like an existential crisis eating this. I remember you went for eating and you were just staring at me and I was just like looking at this bowl of, I was just eating this bowl of Superman being just like. - It's perfect.

- Perfect. I'll tell you what it felt like. It felt like that meme in like Ratatouille where you know, where you have like one bite and it just like took me back to my childhood or something like that. Like I was having like a flashback to like this dish like grandma made me like, my grandma's never made me sukiyomen, but it like gave me that same homely feeling that,

that I had when like eating like a home cooked meal, like back as a kid. And I was like, what is happening right now? - I've never seen anyone have a food wars moment in real life. That was legitimately the closest I've ever seen. - I was this close to like fucking crying. - I remember I stopped to like, 'cause you were sitting opposite me and I was eating and I looked over and you were kind of just

just like silently staring at it. And I remember I said to him, I'm like, "Are your eyes watering?" Are you like really about to cry over this bowl of skimmy? - Does it hit different Garnt? - No, that definitely did. - Meanwhile, I was just there in my mind, like fucking Tyler Wong, like, "Yeah!" And just fucking eating it. - And then I remember the next day we were talking about whatever the fuck we were talking about and Garnt just texted like fully serious being like, "I had a dream about that skimmy last night.

I actually had a dream about that skim man because it's that fucking good. - Because they like have the meat and all the veg in the broth. When you bite into like the veg or the meat, they've absorbed this intense broth and it just bursts. And it's so fucking good. - And the meat is so soft and just like- - So tender, so tender. - Like honestly, like I'm not gonna say that the ramen in Japan is bad or anything. Like there's some fucking fantastic ramen out there

But I just feel that Tsukimen is such an underdog because people just, as you say, people just think that it's just an inferior ramen. - Yeah, I mean, that's what I thought. And I didn't even know about Tsukimen until I moved here and you told me about it. And I feel like people only come here and they only know ramen.

'Cause when I came here, I only knew ramen as well. - I totally don't blame people who are like, "Oh yeah, I just wanna eat sushi and I just wanna eat ramen." But it just frustrates me when there's literally, you go to a ramen shop and they usually have skimming on the menu as well. And yet they just completely ignore that and just go for like the basic bitch ramen.

- Yeah, and I feel like you do get a better ramen experience here than you do anywhere else in the world. - Yeah, it just frustrates me when people are like, "I'm gonna go to Ichiran Ramen." And it's like, you can have an Ichiran in America. Why would you fly all the way to Japan to have something you can have in America? - I do not understand why people come to Japan and they try like, what's the curry place? - Coca-Curry. - Is it Coca-Curry? That's like international one.

- Yeah, yeah. - I don't know why they come in and just try the Coco Curry here. - Right, right. In defense of both those chains, I'll be devil's advocate. I went to Ichiran Ramen like maybe a month ago. I thought it was pretty fucking good. I thought it was like- - It's not bad. - Yep, yep. - It's just mid.

- It is. - If you don't live here, right? And you don't wanna fuck around with going down these alleyways, looking on Google maps, right? Trying to find shit. I can understand where you're like, I want a good ramen that delivers and I don't have to talk to anyone. They have an English menu. I get that 'cause sometimes these ramen places, bro, no pictures, only congee. You gotta give your ticket to the guy. You gotta hope that he calls you out and you know that it's you, right? Like that's a little, you know.

- You gotta figure out if he's asking you if you want extra veg or whatever. - Yeah, 'cause you hand it to him and he'll be like, you know, he'll ask what size and you'll be like, "What?" Or like, "Do you want rice?" Rice they ask him. And like sometimes, and 'cause the word for rice and meal is the same, Gohan. And so one time they asked me Gohan, I just completely forgot that it was rice. And I'm like, "Yeah, I want a meal. I just gave you my ticket, you dumb fuck. Take my ticket." - Yeah, I know that's Goku's son.

- Yeah, so I mean, I get it. It's your own ramen. Okay, it was a little expensive though. I'll give you that. The noodles were thin, it was good. I wanna start a series where I go around reviewing ramen chains. - Yeah, but that's the problem I have with Ichiran, right? Is that it is the thin noodles. And like, I don't have a problem with the thin noodles, but I like my noodles like I like my women, right? Like I like them thick.

- I was like wondering what you were going with that. - Joey's like the inappropriate uncle that has to mention like something sexual every 10 seconds. - Of course, it's the only way people relate to me. - But yeah, that's what I love about skimming though is that like those noodles are so fucking thick.

- But I remember the first place you took me to, it was like trying to go to an all you can eat buffet with like this one little noodle dish 'cause it was so thick. I remember I saw you guys finishing it and I wasn't even like halfway through, I'm like.

- I can do more, I can do this guys. - I can't take all the thickness. - With Suket man, you cannot pause. You have to keep going. If you stop for a moment, you will think, "Shit, I'm full." - You can't let your brain catch up to your stomach. - No, no, don't let it. - It was like doing the Big Bang Burger Challenge in like Persona 5, you know what I mean? That was kind of what I felt like. I got what the main character felt. - You didn't have enough determination points, man. - No, I didn't, I didn't. I need to like upgrade more points, man. - Weak, weak.

- Okay, in Japan there's like what? Three main types of noodles, right? There's the soba noodles, the udon and the ramen, right? - Yes. - Okay, and the difference between these are the soba ones are typically like healthy, quite thin, right? - Soba is buckwheat. - Buckwheat, it's quite healthy for you. - Yeah, it's definitely the healthiest, yes. - Is ramen the least healthy for you? - Ramen,

- I mean, I don't know. - There's a lot of calories in ramen. - Yeah, ramen I'd say is probably the most unhealthy. - Probably the most unhealthy. - And there's udon. So ramen's kind of like in the middle. Soba's really thin. It tastes healthy, so make of that what you want. And then udon is the real fucking thick boy. - The thick white noodles. - Why does soba taste healthy? I don't understand. - Because it is healthy. - I know it is, but I'm just like, what is the big difference between

- Sober and ramen. I'm trying to like put it into words now. I'm just like, I don't really know. - I think maybe it's because a lot of sober dishes aren't sitting in this very like- - Sober doesn't hit back, bro. Sober just goes down. Ramen fights you as it's going in your stomach, bro. It's like, it's a challenge. You gotta like, you gotta beat that shit in your stomach.

- Ramen is sober with attitude. - Yeah, it's sober with attitude. - I think because ramen is so heavy in calories, even the shitty cup ramen tastes fucking good here. But if you go and get like the supermarket sober, that shit tastes awful. - Yeah, it does. - It tastes really bad. - You need to go to a good sober place. - Yeah, sober restaurants are amazing.

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Back to the video. - So yeah, in sober restaurants, they give you the choice of cold sober and hot sober. And as someone who's grown up with like noodles my entire life, I've grown up with the idea that you have to have noodles as like a hot dish. 'Cause I don't know, like, is it weird for you guys, especially you Connor, like the idea of eating a cold,

- If there's options, I'm always gonna go hot. I went out the other day and it was like, it must have not, this is like two weeks ago, I went to a place, the AC wasn't working, it was like 35 degrees, feels like 40. I was like, the person asked me, "Do you want hot or cold?" I was like, give me. No one else in this restaurant. - Like the absolute mad lad. - No one else in this restaurant had hot. I could easily see that 'cause it comes in a bowl when it's hot and when you get the cold, it's on like this little like bamboo thing.

And dude, I was sweating my ass off in this restaurant, but I still, I was like, I'm glad I got home. - 'Cause I remember when I first moved here, I was like hot sober, hot sober, only hot sober. And then I tried cold once and I'm like, oh, this is really refreshing. This tastes like, it tastes totally different, but it still gives me like a good feeling. - I've had it cold, it's not bad. To me, cold thing, like cold noodles don't feel like a meal. It feels like a leftover.

Hot noodles feel like a meal. - I mean, I kind of get where you're saying, but it's also very monkey brain. - It feels like you found it in your fridge, right? And you're like, okay, let's eat it. - Right, is the logic that you can't be bothered to eat it all? - To be fair, when you order cold or a hot soba as well, so when you get hot soba, you just get the noodles and the broth that it comes in. But I always feel jealous of the cold people who get the little dipping sauce. - Yeah. So with the cold soba, you have like,

like a tiny little bowl. - What is the sauce? - It's like a shoyu base. - I thought so, like a soy, and it's really good. - Yeah, it's not a broth, it's just like a sauce. And then you take out the soba, you just dip it in, like whip some wasabi in it, and then you just- - Yeah, cold soba is the skimming of hot soba.

- No! - It is just the Tsukimi. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - And further proves my point that Tsukimi is superior. - Figured it out. - I just wanna, and then there's the final noodle, which is udon, my least favorite. - I do not like udon. - I really like udon. - Dude, it genuinely feels like you're in a tentacle hentai every time you're doing that shit. 'Cause you gotta, dude, you can have like two in your mouth and you're like,

- I'm trying to force that shit down. It's awful, you can't, it's so heavy. It's like swallowing a brick, bro. - No, it's not that bad. - It is. - No, it feels like the vanilla of like the noodle world where it just, it just, it just,

- It hit the same every time. What can I say, man? - And also because ramen is somewhat thin, right? The source that it takes on to the ratio of noodle that I'm eating is perfect. Udon, it's like this thick in my mind, right? That's how thick it feels, right? It's like a coating of sauce. I can't get into that. - But here's the question though. Do you guys like mochi?

- Yeah, I like mochi. - And I'm not talking about like fucking mochi ice cream bullshit. Like I'm talking like- - No, no, no. - Like I actually like mochi. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, because it's like, I feel a lot of people who don't like udon are the same people who don't like mochi for the exact reason, right? Because when you eat like a block of mochi, that's like eating a brick and it's hard to get that shit down. Udon is just like the noodle equivalent. - Yeah, but like that, I like that because it's kind of like a sweet, you know? A lot of times I like mochi sweets, you know? - Oh, so you've never had savory mochi though?

- I've had savory mochi. - Okay, how do you find it? - I probably wouldn't like it. - Yeah, it was very like, fucking like a brick. But I mean, I was prepared for it to be a brick. You know, 'cause it's still dessert, right? So I mean, I was different. But like when we went to that sober place a while ago, an udon place, sorry. It was like,

we had this broth and the udon just didn't stick any of the broth to it. And I'm like, what's the fucking point? - Well, because it's supposed to be a light taste. It's supposed to be like a really thin flavorful, like umami taste. - Nah dude, it ain't that. - I don't wanna say it's an acquired, I didn't think udon was gonna be an acquired taste. - Do you think udon is the worst of the three? - I don't know. Like I feel like I like soba and udon equally.

But ramen is definitely, ramen or rather skimming is definitely above those two. But I like udon. I'm not gonna opt for udon every single time, but if I went to an udon place, I'm not gonna fucking complain. - If I had the choice, I would never go to the udon place. I would always be more in the mood for soba or ramen. There would never be a point where, udon's where I go to where there's no other places around.

I guess I'll settle for udon. - Yeah. - There are just some winter days where I'm like, man, I could really go for like a hot udon. - Yeah, I really just want like bricks in my stomach, dude. I just want warm bricks in my stomach with the sauce not sticking to it. - But then you drink the soup afterwards. - Yeah, but sometimes it's too rich then, you know what I mean? Like, come on, man. - No, no, no, udon broths are never rich. It's always really watery. - They're way too light, which is what I don't like about it.

It's a thick noodle with a light broth. - I like my ramen and skimming that have like a really thick flavor, right? It just completely sticks to you no matter what. But some days I'm just like, I don't wanna feel like I'm getting all this like sticky flavor on me. Like sometimes I just wanna get something down that'll warm me up and is nice and light and...

will fill me up, but won't make me feel like shit. - Yeah, yeah. - Because sometimes when you have, as much as I loved "Skin Man," it's like five guys, right? It's like, man, this flavor is so powerful. It sticks to me the entire time. But then the moment it starts to settle in your stomach, you're just like, kill me.

- Five guys is that thing where you're just like, I'm out for the count for the rest of the day. Don't talk to me, don't expect me to do anything. - I never thought food could knock you out. I thought I had five guys. - The opposite of that I feel is like sushi and the sashimi, right? I also had no fucking clue what sashimi was until I first came here. - A lot of people don't. - Seriously?

- No, seriously. - No, you'd be sorry. A lot of people don't. - 'Cause I didn't know there was a choice where you could just get rid of the rice. I guess it's like a steak without like the sides, right? Like you could just have a steak. And I thought like, oh.

I mean, yeah, I guess. I mean, I will admit, right? I wanted to be that guy who immediately loved sashimi and sushi and was like, dude, I fucking love this bro. But it took me a while to get used to it and really get like into it and appreciate like the taste of it. Because when I first had sashimi, I'm like,

- Yeah, it doesn't taste good. - Really? - Yeah. - It was definitely something that's grew on me. 'Cause I remember I went most of my childhood hating sushi and hating sashimi 'cause I was like raw fish. Why do I wanna eat raw stuff? - And in the UK they do that shit dirty bro. Yo sushi sucks dick. - True, true, true. And then I had like this one day where I just, for some reason I was like, man,

"That kind of looks appetizing. "Let me give that a shot." And then after the first time when I was an adult and I tried sushi again, I was like, "I fucking love this shit. "I love the taste of raw fish, tastes amazing." And having sushi in Japan is just the quality of the fish is just so damn good that even if you go to like one of those dollar places where you can get like, you can order like a plate, like a small plate of sushi for like a dollar or something like that.

That still tastes way better than some of the best restaurants that you can find in the UK or something like that. - Yeah, that's true. I mean the quality of like, 'cause I mean most of the fish that they serve we obviously don't have in the UK. But like even when you get the salmon, you're like, holy shit. I didn't know salmon could like just fall apart like this when you bite into it. Normally in the UK, you know, you get something salmon, you can go fucking, probably get away with it. - You got beer grills. - Yeah, I've had salmon, I'm like literally a fucking,

I'm fucking trying to stop it. But in Japan, you eat it and it just falls apart. And it works so good with the rice. But man, if I ever have a workout, sushi is what I'm always craving. It's like the best post-workout meal, I think. - Really? - 'Cause it's just filling enough where it's like, I don't wanna go too hard, but it's so healthy and so good for you. You're like, man, I feel healthy doing this. - But I remember you were once saying that you can't have sushi for dinner.

Which is weird because I'll take any excuse to take sushi. - Yeah, same here, same here. - Yeah, whenever these guys were out there like, "You guys wanna get sushi for dinner?" I'm like- - No, no, it's always, "What do you guys want to eat?" And Connor's like, "I'm easy." And I go, "Do you feel like sushi?" - Not sushi. - No. - Then you're not easy. - You're like, "Good, in fact, it is not easy." - No, no, no. - That was a fucking lie. - It's like, okay, I'm easy. If you wanna go to sushi, we'll go sushi. I'm just gonna be like,

- It's not a chief. - Well then we don't wanna do that to you, right? - For dinner, 'cause for dinner I feel like, okay, sushi is great, don't get me wrong.

for lunch, I don't mind having like one flavor, but for sushi, I feel like, 'cause it's all like, it all tastes like fish still at the end of the day. Like yes, the fish are different and they taste different, but it still feels like I'm just eating fish and rice, which is fine. But for some reason in sushi to me, it doesn't feel like a full meal. - But you know, you can get other things. - Yeah, but like when you order like fried chicken at a sushi place, that shit is so fucking awful.

It's like the fucking chicken has been abused and like beaten up. It's all muscular and shit. Like it's been in a fucking fight club before it was killed. You maybe get like one ounce of chicken breasts and the rest is like this black bone with like veins. You're like, holy shit, what do they do to this chicken?

And then you're like, what's the point? - Just like roided up chicken. - Yeah, yeah. And I'm like hitting up the miso soup like no tomorrow. I'm like stocking up on it 'cause it's normally free. Not that I care, I mean, it just normally tastes amazing. 'Cause sometimes they leave like some of the fish in there and they let it cook and it's so fucking good. But I don't know, it doesn't feel like a proper meal. I don't know why. 'Cause I fill up so fast on sushi and then 30 minutes later when I've left the restaurant, I'm like shit.

I'm hungry again. - Yeah, I get that with sushi as well sometimes where you feel like your stomach's about to explode and somehow like an hour or two later, you don't get hungry. You just like, you get peckish. I can eat a little more.

- I think it's just the rice that expands in your stomach. - Probably, probably. - And then once it finally settles down, you're just like, oh, all right, time for more food. But I just, I don't know. I never understood why you can eat sushi for lunch and yet you can't eat sushi for dinner. - Breakfast, lunch? I mean, normally- - You can eat it for breakfast. - Yeah, yeah. Normally my lunch or breakfast is sushi. - See, I can't eat sushi for breakfast. - Why not? - I can't eat sushi for breakfast. I can't eat fish for breakfast. - Why? - It's just weird.

- Why is it weird? - You're Japanese, bro. - I know. - Can we talk about the Japanese breakfast? - Oh my God, bro. - Not just the Japanese breakfast, very specifically the ryokan breakfast. - But that is the traditional Japanese breakfast. - My first time hearing this was Chris Broad saying, "Don't ever ask for the Japanese breakfast 'cause it's shit." And I thought, "Oh, he's just being pessimistic." Chris, right? I was a fool. I should have listened to you, Chris. It's fucking garbage. Okay, it's not. Okay, no. The problem is that it's,

the complete opposite of garbage. It's too much. It's too good. - There's like, you get about like 50 different dishes. I swear to God. And I'm just like, dude, it's breakfast. Just give me like, just give me a bowl of cereal. - It's like a worthy contender with an American breakfast, right? Where it's just like, that's just too much food. - It's actually even more than that.

- It's way more than American breakfast. Yeah, because there's like, with an American breakfast, you can fit everything on one fucking plate at least. With like Japanese breakfast, you have like, it covers this entire table.

And then as you're eating, they bring out like more dishes, like more small dishes in between like the fish, the tofu, the soup, I can't even name it all. - There'll be like a salad, there'll be like a potato that's been marinated in like a different fucking way, I don't know. There'll be like two different types of salad, probably a plate of just,

single tiny things that you've no idea what the fuck they are. They're probably gonna be radish 'cause everything seems to be radish. Everything is a fucking radish in these Ryokans. - Every time I see a Japanese breakfast in front of me, I'm like, why am I eating an art exhibition? That's just what it feels like. It's just like, this looks really pretty. It looks really pretty, but man,

- For one, I've never finished a Japanese breakfast. - And then rice as well, they give you rice. - Of course, yeah, they give you rice. I'm like, this is like a five course meal that I'm having just as I've woken up and I never ever finished a Japanese breakfast. - Yeah, I don't mind the fish, the cooked mackerel they normally bring you, I don't mind that. The cooked mackerel doesn't really taste like anything.

- I don't know about that one. - I disagree about that. - Mackerel is my favorite. - Mackerel has probably like the most taste. - It's my favorite fish, mackerel. But like, it's just so clean. Like you never get any like, there's no aftertaste to mackerel. It's just a pure, it's like the chicken. - No, I get an aftertaste with mackerel. - Mackerel is the chicken of fish. - No, that's salmon. - No, I'm not. - That's salmon. - No, no. - Salmon is the chicken of fish. - Salmon's the pork, bro. - Salmon's the pork. - You can do so much with salmon. - Yeah, that's why it's the pork.

- That's the chicken. - No, no, no, no, no. - That's the chicken. - No. - Mackerel is just salmon with attitude. - Oh, I'm just recalling all the food items they might make you. They probably give you eggs, but then you know, you probably want like fried egg.

scrambled eggs, maybe a poached egg. They give you like some fucking egg roll that's been rolled up and steamed. And I'm like, it's pathetic. - Oh, tamagoyaki? - Yeah, and it's fucking cold. And I'm like, why is it cold? Give me a hot egg, please. - Most of the dishes are actually cold. - They're all cold. And I don't know if this is like a Western thing, but like I want something hot to wake me up. And the worst part is, right, is that you're eating this and you're like, yeah, it's filling and something's missing.

Can I have coffee perhaps? Do they have an espresso machine back there? Please, I bring my own pods. I don't care. Just give me a fucking coffee, please. - Well, that's what the green tea is for, right? It's the hot green tea. That's the only heat you're gonna get out of a Japanese breakfast or the miso soup.

- I would kill for a coffee, man. And even when you go, like when we go with Japanese friends, sometimes they're like, man, I just want a coffee. - Japanese breakfast are like way too extra for my own liking. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I mean, I guess that's why, you know, it's a very infrequent occurrence, right? It's that special thing that you get at the ryokans. - It's for the ryokans. Like if you go to a hotel, it's gonna be the shitty continental breakfast that you reluctantly eat 'cause you don't really have much choice. - Yeah, because it's free food. - Oh my God, those are depressing. - I don't know, I liked that for like the first two days.

'Cause I don't know, it's just a recognizable meal and you have it for two days and afterwards you're just like, okay, this is getting really boring now and I want something different. - Yeah.

But it's like one Japanese dish that like, I don't really not recommend it, but I don't really recommend it either is when people come here and they try the curry. 'Cause I don't know about you, but no matter where I've had curry, whether it's home cooked, abroad, whatever chain, it all tastes as good as each other. Like I've never had,

but I've never had a curry that just blows me away. - Yeah, I can agree with that. - Every single time I have a curry, I'm like, this would be great if it was an Indian curry. Just give me an Indian curry could do this better and would taste better. I mean, it's too one noted. And they put curry in so much fucking things here. There's so many side dishes. The one place we had ramen and the side dish was just curry with rice. And it's like, why? Why is this a side dish? - Because curry goes with everything.

That's...

- That's their logic, that's their logic. It's like curry goes with everything. Everyone likes curry. You'll be having to eat it, right? - Okay, you're talking shit about Coco Ichiban. I do like Coco Ichiban. Because I know what I'm gonna get. It's like such a sterilized process. - It is. You get the same thing every time. And it really is no different whether you have Coco Ichiban abroad or here or any other country. - I've never had it abroad, so I can't comment. - I've had it in America. I've had it in- - The exact same. - It's the exact same.

- It's one of the only places where I can get spice that actually makes me feel alive, bro. - Yeah, except you choose the level of spice that is like YouTuber material. - I don't know if this is the same abroad, but in Cocoa Chibun here, you can choose the spice level of the curry. And Ten, as a certified Thai man who loves Thai food and spicy foods,

- It is fucking insanely spicy. - Oh yeah, it's a lot. - Except you willingly are like, yes, I will have the tan. And every time we've gone to Coco Ichiban together and you say, yes, I'll have a level 10 light. - They're like, - Yeah, they're like blinking me. Are you sure? Tan? That's the spiciest. And you're like, yeah.

- But one thing I don't like about the spice level in like Coco Ichiban is it feels like fake spice. I don't know. - What? - That's real. - I don't know. It's like when I was having it- - I don't know, I'm crying there. So I mean like, are those fake tears, Garnt? - What I mean by fake spice is that it just feels like- - It's added, it's like artificial. - It's just artificial spice. It's not truly a dish that was meant to be spicy. Like you have like an Indian curry or you have like a Thai dish and you remove the spice, you feel like it's missing something.

- I think that in a normal, a Coco Ichiban spice, it's like a mainly a throat thing, but in a normal curry, it's like a whole mouth meltdown. Those chilies get all over. Yeah, Coco Ichiban is just like my throat is on fire, but I love pain.

when I'm eating fruit. - I love pain when I'm eating things. - People are like, "Oh, it ruins the flavor." No, you don't understand. When you are in severe pain, it enhances- - It's euphoric. It's euphoric, it is. Oh my God. - The pain makes the flavor so much more prominent. - It's like a different kind of pervert, isn't it? - Yeah, it is. - I love the pain, so I don't understand it.

- And I know it's not an attractive thing to be around. It's not something you do on a date or something, right? 'Cause like I'm there and I'm like fucking. - Yeah. - 'Cause like, okay. - It tastes so good. - I remember the very first time I felt like euphoric from spice and it's on camera. If you watch my domestic girlfriend video where I eat a ghost pepper,

There's a point in there where I'm just, where I'm like explaining it. I'm trying to be a YouTuber, you know, explaining it in a funny way. And then there's a point where I'm just like lying there for a good few seconds. And I'm just like, and like at that point, like my brain was just rushed with endorphins. And I was literally high at that point that I literally, I couldn't think, right? 'Cause I was just, it was painful, but it was a good kind of painful. It's so difficult to explain where- - It was like downing a pint of cocaine, right?

- That's exactly what it was like. - I don't know. I mean, it's so, I don't know. It is like euphoric. - I don't understand it. I don't understand it at all. - 'Cause people, I think you like freak out when you, 'cause Jerry will try, he'll be like, "Go on, I'll try it. I'll try it." He'll put an inch on his spoon. He'll try it.

- I just don't like- - When you stop freaking out and just accept it, it's so nice. - Okay, but to be fair, I used to not be able to handle spice at all. So if we're talking Coco Ichiban levels of curry, 'cause I feel that's the easiest way to quantify it. Like I would always used to just pick zero, like no spice at all. - Lemon and herb Nando sauce.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The real. - What dressing would you like? Water. - Yeah, water. But yeah, so I used to be just zero spice at all. But then the more I would try, you know, the more, because I will always be that one guy who'd be like, oh yeah, I'll try this thing that I'm probably gonna hate. And spicy stuff was always one of them. I'm like, yeah, I know I'm probably gonna die from this, but I'll just eat it because why not? And spicy stuff, I think that's how I built my spice tolerance now. So now I can do like a level two,

- Real man shit now. - And be like, all right, I can still eat this and enjoy it. But I've once tried a level three. I was like, no, this is to the point where the spiciness and the pain just completely negates all flavors for me. - For me, like moving to Japan, the one thing I miss the most is spicy food. Because yeah, you get a Coco Ichiban 10 because you can't get any other spicy food anywhere. - They have like hot on the menu and it's never hot. - It's never hot. - I mean, it's hot for me.

- Okay, go on wasabi. I have a whole rant about wasabi. - Yeah, wasabi is like the closest thing you get to spice, but it's a totally different feeling, right? - It's in the nose spice. - 'Cause it's the spice in the nose. I really liked that feeling. I do, but it's just not the same as the burning sensation, the burning tingling sensation. - Yeah, whereas normal spice is pleasant. I feel like eating too much wasabi is like, you're in a fucking trench in World War II and the chlorine gas has just landed, you know what I mean?

It's like, you do feel like you're being gassed. It's not like spicy or like, ooh, ooh, it tingles. It's like . - See, it's so weird because I can't do a level three kokoyichi, but I love wasabi. I love wasabi. - 'Cause it's not, I think people saying wasabi is spicy is wrong. I feel like it is like suffocating. - It's not, it's not.

- It's not spicy, it's just painful. - It's disgusting. - A tiny bit, a tiny bit mixed in with the soy sauce, okay, we good. But the moment you put like a little bit too much on your sushi. - I love just dumping a whole load of wasabi into my soy sauce. - I've stopped putting wasabi in the soy sauce. And now sometimes like if I'm having like a mid sushi. - Right up the nose.

I'm just like ball of wasabi on the sushi. Let's fucking go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's like, I take that shit directly now. I don't need it diluted by my soy sauce. - Next trash taste in the veins, directly in the veins. Brings his needle to the restaurant, heats up the spoon. - It's like downing a pint of cocaine. - Oh my God. You know how I became to like spice? 'Cause obviously if you haven't noticed guys, I'm white.

- Yeah, I can see that. - It might not be a surprise to some of you. I'm very white and my mom cannot handle any spice at all. My mom will have like something that has actually zero spice in it and she'll be at the dinner table, "Oh, it's kind of spicy, isn't it?" "Mom, it's paprika." "It's paprika, mom." "It's not spicy, it's paprika for fuck sake, it's a spice." - Well, this water's a little spicy. - So naturally I was never raised with spicy food ever.

And what ended up happening was is that I started doing those fucking YouTuber challenges. I would start with a ghost pepper cause I saw like Rhett and Link do it when I was like 15. I was like, I want a ghost pepper, that sounds fun. So we started doing it in school. We'd all do it. - You had a ghost pepper at school? - Yeah. - Oh wow. - But you could buy it at the Tesco's and bring it in. So we used to buy them and just do it. I guess torture each other.

And so I got into it. And then when I started doing live streams, I kept making donation goals. I'll lead a Carolina Reaper, which is like, is it still the world's hottest one? I mean, probably is. Someone's probably made some Giga Chad pepper. - This is the spiciest one now. - Some abomination that's just pure gas. But I must've done it like seven or eight times. And by the end of doing it, 'cause every single 24 hour stream, I would at least do it twice. And so I started like just being like, okay, it's actually kind of fun now.

Like I would actually like look forward to doing it. And so then I noticed after doing that, where it was just pure pain, when I went back to eat normal curry, I was like, there's no spice. - You can't go back. - Once you get that, once you hit that spice level. - 'Cause you're desensitizing yourself to it. - This is how people get into dominatrix. - It hurts at first, but oh, it's kind of spicy.

- It's starting to feel good now. - This is literally like drugs. - It is drugs. - It is a drug. Spice is a drug. - 'Cause I remember when I first started dating Sydney, she could not handle spice at all. And I remember what got her to start liking spice was basically when I introduced her to my parents and every time we'd have a family meal, mom would be like, "Oh, I didn't make it so spicy for you."

In Thai, what making, what like less spice means just they take one chili out of the fucking 50 they put in this curry, right? That's what less spicy means. You've had the exact same experience, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, because when we stayed over at Garth's place, 'cause Aki can't take spice at all. And she was like, "Oh no, I'm gonna die with this." 'Cause your mom was making like Thai noodles or something, right? Which is usually hella spicy. - Yeah.

I had to make a really weird request to your mom to be like, "Can you just take all the spice out?" And the way your mom looked at me was like I was speaking another language. She was like, "What? No, that doesn't make any sense." - No, it's just like, "Can you take all the spice out?" "Oh, okay. So you want one less chili?" - And I was like, "No, no." - It's like, "No, all, all chili is gone." - It just does not compute.

- It's just like, this is the first time I'm ever doing this for anybody. I felt like I offended the time by saying that. - She was just confused 'cause she was like, "What do you mean no spice? "Like less spice? "Like more or less spice?"

Like what does no spice mean? That does not make sense to me. And so like, because Sydney would always have to like eat this Thai food, she would have to like, at first she was like crying every meal. And then as like the more she ate, the more she got used to it. And then now she like can handle spice better than a lot of Thai people. Like we have this dish in Thailand called Pad Kee Mau.

which translates to drunken noodle. And the reason it's called drunken noodle is that you have to be truly pissed to be able to handle the spice, how much spice this has. And she eats that on the daily, man. - See, because I'm sure that if I was put in the same position as you or Sydney, I would probably get used to it too. But I don't want to.

I wanna enjoy my meals. - It's good, man, it's good. Get some spice in your life. It makes the meal, like it gives this extra kick to the meal that you just can't get. - But that's the problem, right? Is that because I grew up eating Japanese food, there isn't any Japanese dishes that have spice like that. Because wasabi is, as we've established, completely different type of spice. And we don't really use chilies in a lot of Japanese food. So there isn't, I guarantee there's probably a lot of Japanese people who can just

not handle spice whatsoever. - Oh yeah, I definitely feel that as well. - Should we open the wine? - Before we move on guys, we've had this bottle of wine just sitting down that we were going to open this podcast because we've hit a new milestone, of course. - We've hit three milestones technically. - Yeah, three milestones at like almost the same time, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So we reached,

- 100, wait, what? - Wait, what are the three milestones? - Well, let me tell you. Well, first of all, we hit half a million subs. - At the time of recording. - At the time of recording. It's probably more by this time. So that's one of them. We hit 100,000 followers on Twitter. And we hit 50,000 followers on the subreddit. - Oh, okay. - It's like all on the same day. - All on the same, within a few days of each other. - Thank you, gamers.

- Thank you for fucking supporting us and watching what we do. - And now we have a Drops of God wine. - Yes, this is a Drops of God wine. I don't know which Drops of God wine this is. - That's fucking good. - So I'm just gonna pour it. - I'm just gonna do him first. - You see that? He's like swooshed around. - Yeah, I know. - Can you believe that, man? The gall of this man. - Ooh, there we go. - I would like to talk about Japanese bread for a moment. - Japanese bread, okay.

- I think we've already talked about it. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

- I need it, I just need it. - I need it. - And in Japan, it's like a fucking dessert project. It's like a fourth graders like, "Ooh, let's spice it up. "Let's put custard in the bread. "Let's do all this weird shit. "Let's put hot dogs in the croissant." And it's like, what? - Okay, to be fair though, they're all pretty bomb. - No, I don't want custard. And then like, okay, so,

I like this bread. Don't get me wrong, I like this bread, but I feel like something's gone wrong. So next to our house, there's this bakery and they sell this really fucking good bread. It's amazing. It's bread that's so good that you can just eat it with nothing on it. And I put stuff on it, like I put tuna and toasted it and it made the bread taste worse. And I was like, you're in the way of the bread. This is the bread's time to shine. And so I had this whole loaf of bread. Problem was,

the loaf costed like a thousand yen, which is like $10. $10 for a loaf of bread? Holy shit, dude, this better be diamond encrusted. Jesus Christ. - I mean, if it's the main star of whatever you're eating, I could see why it costs $10. I don't know, I've never been, personally, I've never been blown away by bread. - You ever been to Germany, bro?

- No. - Well, there you go. That's why. German people, man, say what you will, they've got bread figured out, man. All the Germans watching this are like, "Hell yeah, we do." You go to Germany, you get anything in their bakeries, it's fresh as fuck and it's amazing. It's so good. - All that just makes me wanna go to Germany. - So I'm gonna move to Germany when I'm done with Japan. Hi, Germany, please welcome me.

- Oh, pretzels alone? Holy shit, that pretzels are good. - German food's fucking- - Holy fuck. - I feel like pretzels and bread for me, always need to be, they are like the side dish to whatever the main thing is between them. - Oh, he said it.

- I need to have something with my bread. - You haven't had a good pretzel, man. A good pretzel will change your life. - A good like fat, hot German pretzel with mustard. - Yeah, mustard's good. - Oh yeah, you don't like mustard. - You can put cheese on it if you want. I think- - Yeah, that's exactly it. I need cheese on it. - No, no, no, no. I was about to finish my sentence, guys.

Let me finish guys. A pretzel on its own, just salted lightly man with the salt, like little salt chunks in there. Man, you get a nice bite of that salt, perfect with your beer, man. And even in the morning, right? It's great. It's light and you can have half the pretzel, leave it man. It's gonna be great later. It's just pretzels. - We're not talking about like the tiny fucking pretzels.

- The big boy. - We're talking about like the big German pretzels. - Tiny pretzels fucking suck. - Yeah, they do. - They suck dude. - It's airplane food. - Yeah, it's a shitty cookie is what it is. - It all hits the same. - No, it doesn't. And like, I think I've seen a lot on YouTube at least like bread is like a huge, like it's becoming a huge culture here of like experimenting with it and pushing it and making it more like dessert like and what you can do with it. And I've noticed there are

a ton of bakeries that none of them do normal bread. It's just like, what weird fucking thing can we do with bread? No, no, no. I put life on the edge, Garnt. I'm not gonna do it. I think someone said that in one of the episodes as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time I say it, I'm like- - Now I've noticed it, I can't not notice it. I'm just like- - Fine, fine. I'll put it down. I'll put it down. - No, but like, what- - I spilled some.

- Are you happy, girl? I spilled some when I moved in. - For fuck's sake. Near the TV as well, what the fuck? That's by your feet. Why would you put it by your feet? - 'Cause then if I- - I can't, I can't. - One thing though that I will say that I think a lot of people are gonna find controversial is that

- The Asian bakeries in America, like usually the ones that are owned by like, you know, Koreans or Japanese. - Yeah. - I feel that the bread there is like way too sweet. - Yeah, it's so sweet. - It's way too sweet, but they don't really do that here. - It's like everything is a brioche. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - Every normal bread you get tastes halfway like to a brioche. It shouldn't.

It tastes too sweet. - It's way too sugary. Like I don't even taste the bread anymore. - Yeah, and I've had a lot of Japanese people say like, do you think the Japanese food is too sweet? And I'm like, yes, it is too sweet. We have too much sugar in this shit. - Yeah, I would agree with that. - 'Cause you eat a melon pan, don't get me wrong, shit's amazing. You look on the back, you have a fucking heart attack when you see the sugar. It's like 80 grams of sugar in a melon pan. And that's like what, like two Cokes and a half? Holy shit. What the fuck?

- But I would rather eat a melon than two Cokes in a half. - 'Cause it's like, they make this bread and don't get me wrong, it's as amazing as it looks in the anime. It totally is. And the first week here, I used to eat it nonstop. 'Cause I was like, I'm never gonna get fat. And then I had a scare when I looked at the back and I'm like, oh, that's sugar, isn't it? Don't tell me that's sugar. Google translate, oh shit, it's sugar, fuck.

- The fuck you expecting? - You knew that a sweet thing would have sugar in it. - I didn't think when it said 82- - Surprise Pikachu face. - 82 grams, maybe it was protein. I don't know, maybe it was protein. Maybe the bread was very heavy in protein. - That's how all these Japanese waifus, all these waifus getting swallowed by a melon pan. - And then I started thinking to myself,

I had this bread and I'm like, the bread tastes awfully sweet. And I did think, oh, it's kind of weird that it's the topping is just sugar. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Who would have thought that? - That's awfully weird. - Talking about taking the bread away from things, let's talk about Japanese hamburgers or hambargoos. - Yeah, that's right. It's not a hamburger, it's a hambargoo. - An abomination to burgers. - I fucking love them. - I can't fucking stand when you order that shit. - So to explain Japanese hambargoos, it's literally just a hamburger or like a burger patty without the bun. - What?

- Because it's good, I love it. - The best part of a hamburger, and I'm gonna go one of those rounds again, man. It's like the pizza thing, dude. It's the synergy. - Synergy. - It's the synergy, bro.

There is a way to a burger, man. It's like, it's all the accumulation of the tastes that come together and they strike slightly moderate. - Because like for like 90% of burgers, you don't give a shit about the synergy. You're there for the fucking party. Like you have like a brioche bun with some lettuce, tomatoes,

- It's amazing, yeah, yeah. - It's fucking amazing. But like you get a McDonald's burger, who gives a shit, man? - Oh no, the McDonald's burger has been more engineered than any burger in the world, Garnt. That thing has been scientifically proven to be the perfect- - That has been optimized as well. - That is why you will never say no to a double cheeseburger at McDonald's, I guarantee it. - Yeah, of course. - I do because it's got ketchup in it.

But regardless of the point, it's a fucking dry ass patty. Like I don't give a shit about that. It is literal junk. - I love my gourmet burgers, dude. I love every kind of burger. The McDonald's burger has its place. - That's why no matter what hamburger you get, you get a gourmet patty.

Or like what would be like a gourmet patty on like a gourmet burger? - You always order the shitty patties though in these places. Like you order like the shitty hamburger that was made in a factory, like probably like 10 miles away. - And it's still 10 times better than anything you order from fucking McDonald's or even like Burger King or like most burger joints. You know what I mean? - I'm gonna have to agree with Garnt on this one.

- Like, don't get me wrong. Like, you know, sometimes I'll wake up and just be like, you know, like I'll never say no to a double cheeseburger or a Whopper, right? On some days. - A Whopper burger here is great. I'll take it over any of those shitty burgers. - Sometimes you just, you know, sometimes you're just like, I just want to eat some shit today. But then other times you're like,

I really just want meat. I just want a hamburger. I just want the patty. - It's just the patty. It's just the patty of a burger. - I just want the patty. - In my eyes, if you're going to just order a hamburger, just like with veg and maybe fries, just get a fucking steak. Just like- - No, no, no, no. - You're eating red meat. - It's totally fucking different from steak. - No, it's not. Are you kidding me?

- I will never eat a fucking steak over a hamburger. Never. - What? - Yeah. I just don't, I don't like steak. - I will take the inferior worst tasting piece of the cat. - I don't like steak. - Oh my God. - I think steak is fucking mid. - No, man. Okay. - Okay. Okay. Okay. - I think steak is, it's like eating cardboard. It's just a fucking piece of meat. - Like to me, eating a hamburger, right? - What is going on? - What are these takes right now?

- I'll let him freak out. Eating a hamburger, right, is just like,

It's like a kid's meal. It doesn't look right. It looks like- - What are you talking about? - Because it's like, "Oh, you little God can't handle the tomatoes and the bread? Oh, we'll just take the burger out for you." - It's just a different way to enjoy a part of the meal. It's like saying- - When you get like the veg in a bag with your little milk and your juice, right? Like it's a little different way to have it. - It's like, oh, you talked about pizza. It's like, oh yeah, I can only eat cheese when it's on pizza.

- Wait, who said that? - Huh? - Who said that? - No, that's by the same logic, you're like, I can't have mozzarella by itself. - Why would you have mozzarella by itself? - 'Cause it's fucking great. - Yeah, it tastes good.

- Like it's great with a salad. - With a Capri-Sauce. - Yeah, Capri-Sauce. - That's fine. - That's not by itself gone. By itself means on its own. - A hamburger is not a- - You know what by itself means? - A hamburger is not a patty by itself. You got like potatoes, you got vegetables, you got eggs, you got sauce, you got cheese. You put it on a fucking curry. You can put it on so many things that just is not bread and lettuce and tomatoes. - When you have a steak and it comes with fries, is the steak by itself?

- Say that again? - If you order a steak and it comes with fries, is this by itself? - No, it's with the fries, but I don't give a shit about the steak. - Yeah, but what you're saying is that because it's like taken out, it's not by itself or something? - The patty's not by itself. - What I'm trying to say is you don't have to have steak with fries. You can have steak with a lot of other things. - If the patty is just, it's a singular thing and there's veg next to it, the patty is by itself.

That's just a fact, bro. - What? - What? - What are you talking about? - Because right? That is not part of a burger. It's a meal. - The patty is a fucking ingredient to a bigger whole. But you can take the ingredients and you can do other things

- Other things with the ingredients. - If you have all the ingredients of a soup next to each other, it's not a fuck, it's not. You can't just be like, oh, it's not by itself at all, it's a soup, what do you mean? Like, what are you, you're chatting out of your ass, bro. It's a burger on its own, just left there, it's depressing. Put some fucking lettuce and tomatoes and bread on that shit, man. - But it's on the side. - It's on the side, you can have other stuff,

- You can eat a burger in more than one way. - You can eat the hamburger, you take a bite of that shit. - You uncultured fuck. - You can eat the hamburger on the side. - Why don't you just go to fucking McDonald's, right? Order a burger and just pry it apart, take the hamburger out and eat it, God, you fucking animal. - Because the patty is shit. That is why. - The patty is garbage. - Yeah, but so is this burger that you get. - No, it's not. - The beef they give you, the beef.

- The beef that they give you that isn't A5 beef here is pathetic beef. - No, it's not. - It's so sad. - It's great. - It's like, it's a fucking gray burger. - As I was informed by a friend of mine whose whole job is to manage exports of meat into Japan, he informed me that all the beef that isn't the top grade stuff is just imported from other countries. - Well then, fuck him. - And it tastes like shit. - Fuck him.

- You acting like that Reddit comment now. - I am, I am. - It's like, yes, excuse me, I am a beef expert. - My dad works in Nintendo. - I've heard from a friend who works in the industry. - Listen, listen.

- When you grow up basically, right? Next to farms, right? And you get that beef, you get it fresh, man. You can't give me this shit of like this air sealed bag of a beef carcass flown across a country. It tastes like shit. - Well, what if I didn't grow up next to a fucking farm? - Well, that sucks to be you. - Yeah.

- Go and eat your hamburger. - But like by that same logic, why can you still enjoy fucking McDonald's patties or like burgers then? - Because that as a burger is a great burger. It's a fucking great burger. - It's not, it's trash. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - It's not even the best burger in like the fast food joint. - If you take a fucking Burger King over a McDonald's burger any day of the week. - It depends on the mood.

- You're such a liar. - What fucking mood? Okay, explain to me the mood that you need to be in. - Who would actually take a McDonald's burger for a Burger King? - When I'm absolutely plastered, there's nothing more I want than double cheeseburgers from McDonald's. They have this- - That just sounds like your fucking prerogative. - No, no, no, no. But also, I just think that McDonald's in the UK at least was like the best fast food chain. - Yeah, probably, but there weren't many to pick from, I would say. - Yeah.

- But there's way more to pick from here. - I mean like, okay. - At the end of the day, I just think a hamburger on its own is pathetic. - If you could take a Burger King burger with McDonald's fries, that would be like the perfect fast food restaurant for me. Like as it stands, I either have to pick between a shitty burger and good fries or like a less shitty burger and worse fries. - I'm convinced all the fast food places have an agreement of who's gonna have the best what because why does not one of them have just figured out who?

Those are the good fries. Why don't we get those fries? You know what I mean? - Yeah, sure.

- But I guarantee if I blindfolded you and I made you eat both of them. - The fries? Oh, I could tell 100%. - No. - We're doing it. - I reckon you could do that with a burger as well and you wouldn't be able to tell. - Oh, dude, I could, with fast food chains? - Yeah. - 100% I can tell. I'll bet my life on it. - We gotta do it now. - Order of eats right now. - We gotta do it now. - Talking about beef though, let's talk about actual Japanese beef and Japanese steaks because like,

- A5 or nothing. - A5. - A5 is like, I thought- - It's not that much more expensive. - It's so weird living in a country where you can go to your local supermarket and get A5 beef. And then this is the type of beef that gets like shipped over and you pay like 50 bucks for like a fucking 100 grams or something abroad. And then you can just get it here at your supermarket. - As much as I don't rate steaks, like A5 steaks,

- They do the striking. - I had a Wagyu burger yesterday and it was fucking amazing. And I'm so glad that there was bread, lettuce and tomatoes and cheese. - Don't start this again. We just stayed away from this. - I'm just saying, it felt good. I mean a burger and a steak are two different things in my mind. But okay, Wagyu steak is like amazing. Especially when they like fry that shit in butter, like so much. It like absorbs it. You bite into it, it's like.

- Yeah, I don't know though. Like for me steak is just like, how often do you have a steak? - Not often. That's why- - You can't have steak often. - I would understand coming from your perspective why you hate steak. But to me steak is like the best meal or the best meat you can get if it's like prepared well. - Just false. - Right.

- What's better than the good steak? - Bro, I think pork is the best meat. - Fuck, get the fuck out of here. - Like a pork steak? - No, no, no, not a pork steak. I just think, well, pork steaks are good. Like gammon chops are fucking amazing. - Right. - No, no, no. - It goes, okay. Here's how the tier list goes, okay? Here's how the fucking tier list goes, okay? It goes like an amazing steak at top. I couldn't eat a steak every day, but like as like a one-off meal, like steak is like SSS. - It's up there, it's up there, yeah. - And then after that comes chicken.

- Because chicken you can do so much with. - Yeah, I agree. - And you can never get bored of chicken. - I've never gotten sick of chicken. I could eat fried chicken every day at the work. I'll be real. - And then below that is pork. - No, no, no. - Below that is pork because I would never, like anything you cook with pork, I feel like you can do something similar with chicken.

- No, I feel like pork has a like, it's the in-between, like, whereas beef is really heavy, pork is the in-between. And I feel like you can do so much with pork. Like I love sausages, man. Sausages are amazing. - Yeah, but you can also have beef sausages as well. - What the fuck? I've never had a beef sausage in my life. - There's nothing you can do with pork that you can't do with either chicken or beef and have it taste better. - Wait, do you like hot dogs? - No. - Oh yeah, he acts like a guy who doesn't like hot dogs.

- How do you not like hot dogs? - The dude who was talking about- - It's 'cause you don't like fucking condiments. - And also the people who talk so highly about steak are like, "No, no, no, hot dogs are for peasants. "That isn't, no, no, no, I couldn't possibly." I love a good hot dog. - Hot dog? Does this have dog in it?

- Dude, I love hot dogs, man. I know they're absolute garbage and like probably cancerous, but I fucking love them. - Okay, you have to have like a beef sausage hot dog though, because you've never had a beef sausage, right? - Oh. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. Tell me the difference between like a hot dog- - And a sausage. - Like and a sausage. - A sausage is, okay.

- If you're ever gonna take a hot dog over a sausage, I don't think we can be friends. - No, exactly, exactly. - But you know when you're at a barbecue and like, you know, people are being kind of cheap, you know, they wanna bring the big sausages. You're like, fine, I'll eat four hot dogs. Fine, you know. - Yeah, like that's the thing. I would never pick a hot dog over a sausage. - No, no, no. - It's like a double cheeseburger, right? - Yeah, yeah. - If it's there, I'll eat it. - And you can, okay, with a sausage hot dog, right? Like a thick boy, you can only put one of those away. With a hot dog, I feel like you can put like three or four away.

- Oh yeah, 'cause they're so fucking thin. - And they just taste like, they don't really, like a sausage, a good sausage is heavy. - The reason I don't like hot dogs is that, or the reason I would never take it over with sausage is that it just tastes so processed. - Yeah, that's 'cause it is. - There's something about highly processed food that my brain is like,

- Okay, then question, do you like spam? - It's okay, you're gonna like laugh now. My mom's gonna feel so bad. My mom used to make this meal. I fucking loved it, dude. I would always ask my mom to make it. It was literally mashed potatoes and spam, just mashed.

And I fucking loved this shit. - Wait, was like no flavoring on top of it? - No, no, no, just mashed potato and spam. Imagine like a giant fucking pan of mashed potato, right? And I would just take like a giant plate full of this shit and I would gobble that shit up, man. I would eat that for days. - It's like cancer in a plate. - No, yeah, 'cause spam is one of those things where it's like, if I'm offered spam on its own and I can see it, I'm like, get that away from me. Get that shit away from me. But when it's like in something disguise, I'm like, yo, this shit claps, what is this?

- Spam fried rice is like, I used to fucking hate spam. Like I was like, ew, get that shit away from me. Give me real meat. - Isn't it like a spam Hawaii, in Hawaii they meant like a spam sushi or something? - No, that's, yeah, that's, it was either Hawaii or Okinawa. I think it's an Okinawa dish with spam nigiri. - I don't fuck with that. - Like spam or nigiri is fucking dope. - Yeah, I don't fuck with spam. - I don't know. - I used to not fuck with it, but spam is such a huge thing in the Philippines.

So going to Aki's parents' place, every second meal had spam in it. So I couldn't avoid the shit. - Spam is what I eat to remind me what good meat tastes like. - What do the peasants eat nowadays? I must know. Oh, spam is it? - Hot dog and spam? - I suppose I could give a hot dog and a spam a try or two. Oh, rather distasteful. I wanna know, when you go to the conbini, right? What's the top three food items that you get?

- Depends on the Konbini. - Yeah, it depends on the Konbini, but say if it's Family Mart. I always get the fucking tuna bread.

- Do you know the bread? - Oh, the like the- - The long boy. - Yeah, that shit's good. - The long boy tuna bread, that shit always- - Because, okay, anything with mayo in here in Japan is so much better. - Yeah, so like the tuna bread- - That mayo is god tier here. - Tuna bread with the mayo on top. - As someone who hates mayo, I got to admit, like- - Mayo is good. - Japan is the only place where I can

- I would kind of be okay with it. - That's saying a lot. - I will never eat mayo by itself, but when it's in like a nice potato salad or something, I fuck with that. - I thought that egg sandwiches were the most depressing fucking thing in the world. - I agree, yeah. - In the UK, they're like this white mush that looks disgusting. It smells vile. It's just gross. And then you have it in Japan. It's like this yellow bright color. It's inviting. It's like, oh, eat me.

And I was like, you know what? I just might. I just might. And I had it. I had it. And my mind was blown. And I cannot stop eating the egg sandwiches here, man. I can never eat an egg sandwich anywhere else now. Cause I'm going to be thinking. Japan has ruined eggs for me.

- Eggs and mayo are just God tier here. - Yeah, because like, I remember the concept of just going to my first like yakiniku place and just having the dips like for some like dipping sauce in like yakiniku, which is,

how do I explain yakiniku? It's just like grilled meats, basically. - It's like Korean barbecue. - How do I explain it? It's just meat. - It's like Korean barbecue, but replace Korean with Japanese. - Yeah, and it's on like a skewer, basically. So for some dishes, they give you just like an egg as a dipping sauce, like the egg yolk, a raw egg yolk, which firstly, the concept of eating raw eggs was really, really weird for me until I tried it for the first time. And raw egg here tastes fucking great. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - And it's safe.

Our producer Maylene is obsessed with eggs. It's completely that you can't get salmonella here from the eggs. - It's pretty impossible. - When I did one of my videos, I like drank a bunch of egg and all the comments were like, oh my God, Connor, you're gonna get salmonella, you dumb fuck, I know more. I got told eggs give salmonella and I was like,

reverse Uno card in this. - Yeah. - You hit me up with that. - You can't, you can't. It's like, I don't think it's a hundred percent unlikely. - Yeah. - I have heard of a couple of my friends. - It's worth the risk. - I've heard of a couple of my friends get like very mild salmonella from the eggs here, but it's really, really rare. Like it's not as easy to get salmonella

- It's because I think in America and the UK and most of Europe, I think we wash the eggs and we get rid of the protective film on the coat. And I think it's also something to do with how we feed them certain drugs to like make them immune to diseases. Yeah, 'cause like, what is it? Shabu-shabu and sukiyaki? - Skiyaki. - That's one of my favorites actually. - Skiyaki is like, yeah, I put you onto that, right? - Yeah, that shit's in there. - Skiyaki is the best fucking hot pot. - Shabu-shabu is like, they,

boil like this meat and veg in this broth. And it's kind of weak. It's like, ah. - I don't rate shabu-shabu. - It's like they always advertise themselves as shabu-shabu places. And then they might have the sukiyaki on the menu. But they never advertise. It's always, yo, we've got shabu-shabu. And it tastes like shit. It's like water. It's like bath water for your meat. - I feel like, I still think like the best hot pot for me is Chinese hot pot. Chinese hot pot, it's like way more flavorful.

- It's like, it's a heavy broth. - Have you had sukiyaki though? - Have you had it? - I have. - Okay, so sukiyaki, if you don't know at home, it's what's the broth that they cook it in? It's like a rich like- - It's soy based with like a little bit of like, fuck, what was it? It's like a-

- Dashi? - Yeah. - It's dashi, I don't know how to explain dashi. - It's this really rich broth and to like mellow it out and give it this, like enhance the flavors, you dunk it in like egg yolk. - So you crack a raw egg, you whip it up and then you dip that shit in. - So you cook everything in the broth and it's all covered in soy, like all the veggies absorbed it, you dunk it in the egg and then you eat it.

and it's fucking amazing. It's so good. - So good. - It's so good. And Chinese hot pot is good, right? But I think Sukiyaki's better. - Yeah, Chinese, like I rate Chinese hot pot. Every time I've had a Chinese hot pot, I'm like, hell yeah. - Also Japanese hot pot's pretty good too. We've had it at our place. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We had like, I don't know which hot pot. - We had that on Christmas 'cause Connor didn't want a fucking roast.

- None of us have an oven. What are we gonna roast Garnt? How are we gonna fucking roast a chicken in the tiny little fish grill? You get a grill in your like a stove top, right? Oven top, sorry? Oven top. And you get this grill for fish and it's like this wide. - You have to like pull it out. - It can literally fit just one fish. You want to roast a potato? Good fucking luck.

- You're gonna cut that bitch into- - You're gonna have to pan fry a potato. He's like, "I wanna roast." How are we gonna have a roast, Garnt? Explain the logistics behind this. The logistics, Garnt. I'm bringing it back. - Now I have an oven and I think you can have an oven as well. - Yeah, I have an oven as well. - So yeah, next time we- - Sorry that we can afford an oven. - Why would I need an oven when I eat out every fucking day?

- Connor, you're so lazy, why'd you eat out? - Sometimes I meal prep. Meal prep, that sounds so fucking lame. I'm a meal prep bro. I'll make a curry for five days and I'll eat the curry over five days, like a Thai curry. That's about it, that's as far as cooking goes for me. - But that's the thing, I feel Japan, I'm pretty sure we touched upon this on a previous episode. - People got so pissed when we said that. They were like, "It's not cheaper to eat out "if you do X and X and X." And it's like, yeah, if I ate pasta and sauce,

of course it's gonna be cheap. But if you want to have something that tastes different, yes, it's gonna maybe be like 100, 200 different. - If you want a different meal every day. - Yeah, exactly. And you can't be fucked to go shopping every day because the expiry date on shit is like two days to go. - Yeah, and more often than not, when you buy stuff, it's too much portions that I can't use. Like veg here is normally portioned for more than one person. - Yeah, it's like family portion. - Yeah, so I wanted, how was it?

- What's the small onions, like the green onions? What are they called? Green onions? - I have no fucking clue. - I think it's shallots in America. - Spring onion? - Spring onion for us. You cannot just get like two spring onions. - It has to be a whole fucking. - Yeah, it's either a whole fucking one or a giant tub of like cut up ones. I'm talking like more than any one person could ever use in a week. It's like a tub like this thick

just filled with these cut. And it's like, I'm not gonna use this. I feel bad 'cause I throw all the ingredients away 'cause I can't use them. - Well, it's because it like, cut shallots are used in literally every Japanese dish. - Yeah, they are, they are. And like, if I get tomatoes, they always come in like packs of like six. Tomatoes are fucking big.

I don't need six most of the time. And you know, 'cause of how we do, like say we record on Tuesdays, we're gonna eat out and then maybe on Monday I'm going to meet someone for a meeting or maybe I've got a shoot on Thursday, so I'm gonna eat out. So it's more like one day a week I eat in. And even then I'll just go to the con being at the 500 yen ramen, which is like, you know, sure I could make my own.

- Which I could make my own ramen, but it'd be more expensive. So it's like, yeah, of course some people, if you want to be picky about it, yeah, you can save money. The same way if you eat pasture in the UK, you'll save a shit ton of money. But if you want to like live like a human being. - But if you actually want to like, you know, enjoy your food. - Yeah, yeah. If you want to not be depressed 24/7 with what you're eating, like, yeah, okay. - Yeah, 'cause going back to the conbini thing about foods that we buy, like I,

- I go less to the Konbini now to get meals. I remember when I first moved here, I would go to get a Konbini meal like every fucking day. And like the Konbini fried chicken here is fucking great. - Okay, with an asterisk. - With an asterisk. Family Mart fried chicken fucking sucks, okay? It's way too greasy.

- It's like a layer of fat around it as well. - I see it as well. - You feel like you're eating death as you're taking a bite. - And I see YouTubers, I think like Chris Broad says that his favorite is Family Mart chicken and you eat into this thing and it's the most depressed thing you can eat. - It's as depressed as he is. - Yeah, yeah.

You take a bite into this thing, it is pure water and oil. That chicken was probably anemic in its real life. And they pumped that shit with water and oil and they're like, "Do it." Lawson's fried chicken on the other hand. - Nah, nah, nah. Seven fried chicken at the top. - I think seven fried chicken is in the middle, man. Lawson's do this like sweet and sour, salty and sweet teriyaki fried chicken. It's fucking good, dude.

- Yeah. - It's fucking good. It hits different, it hits back. It hits back. You bite into this thing, it's fighting you bro, in a good way. It's like, damn, there's so much flavor in this thing. It's like, oh shit, holy shit, I just wanted a fried chicken, not a fight. Okay, also when you first come to Japan, right? - Yeah.

onigiri, bro, jelly-filled donuts immediately. 'Cause it's new, it's exciting, it tastes good. And then when I moved here, I was eating it and I'm like, this kind of tastes boring, really boring. And then I thought, who would have a sandwich in Japan? I want a sandwich, I need a better sandwich in the UK. And then you start experimenting a little bit and I had the egg and my go-to sandwich combo.

- I cry if this isn't available. In Lawson's they have like a God tier tuna mayo sandwich. And the other one is the egg one. - The egg and ham. - It's beautiful, man. I cry every time I get it. - That is definitely my favorite sandwich combination. - It's so good because you have the tuna and you're like, ooh, a little salty, a little fishy. You have the egg mayo one and you're like, fuck dude, this is good.

I'm actually the opposite. When I first moved here, I'm like, why would I want to fucking onigiri? And now it's just like a very nice casual snack where like, you don't want to fool me.

- Onigiri is quite filling though, I find. - That's it. You have that as a snack and it fills you up and you don't need anything else for a while. - I guess, yeah. - I always, when I go to the Konbini in the morning, sometimes I can't be bothered to make a breakfast. So I go to the Konbini in the morning and I always get my breakfast and then some kind of Onigiri because I know the breakfast is gonna fill me up. But then I know a couple of hours later, I'm gonna be feeling a little bit peckish and the Onigiri is just,

perfect to fill in that little spot that creates. - My problem with onigiri is sometimes like it's like a coin toss. Like you might get one where they're generous with the fillings. And sometimes you bite into that shit and there's one shred of tuna in it. And you're like, where is the flavor, bro? I just ate into seaweed and rice. Like there was one piece of tuna with a slab of mayo on it. It sucks, man. If it was consistent, maybe I'd like it. - But you only eat the tuna.

- No, I like the salmon and the cod roe one. - Oh yeah? - Yeah, the cod roe one's fine, but cod roe is kind of intense, so. - Have you tried like some of the other flavors, like the flavored rice flavors? - I've had the, oh, you mean like the fried rice ones? - Yeah, the fried rice ones. - Yeah, the fried rice ones are fine, but again, I'm always thinking like- - They're situational for me. - I would rather them warm.

- I want it warm. - You can warm it up, but just put that bitch in the microwave. - It doesn't feel right. - I don't want a microwave rice. That sounds depressing, man. I don't know. - I don't know, would you rather cold rice or microwave rice? - Cold. - Well then stop fucking complaining.

- But like, I would rather be like freshly grilled. - Yeah, but that ain't gonna happen at a fucking corner. - Like did for you as like a white person who grew up in Wales. - As a white person. - No, no, no. The point I was trying to make is how did it feel going from like eating rice every now and again to eating rice for almost every meal?

'Cause I've had conversations with people who grew up in America, grew up in England, they've moved to an Asian country and they're like, "Man, I really liked it at first "and then I just got bored of eating rice for every meal." But I grew up with this shit, so I'm used to it. - I mean, it wears you down a little bit, but I feel like you really do get used to it. I don't know, maybe some people, it's like they like it at first, like you said, they start to hate it. But for me, it was like, I don't know, rice has just always been there. It's like bread, but in a different format for me.

It's like if bread is the hard drive, then rice is the SD card. It's like they all do the same thing. They just fill you up in their carbs, right? I think most of the time here, it's not just plain rice. Sometimes it is like when you go to Ryokan, it's just like plain fucking rice in it. And it's so starchy and sticky like fuck dude, I'm eating fucking Play-Doh here. But,

- You know when you go like my favorite place in the world, Matsya, you know? - Here we go again. - I almost look like a freak when I do this, right? So when they cook the pork, pork by the way, not beef, beef is like shit. They cook the pork, right? There's like juices, right? And normally you just kind of like pick up the pork and put it in the rice, put some mayo on it and then eat it. I fucking like in the restaurant, I'm like, hold up my plate and like.

- Pour all like the fats and stuff on the rice. - I can agree. - That tastes so fucking good, dude. 'Cause it makes it so rich. - But it's just the fucking audacity to go into a beef bowl place and order pork. - This guy. - Honestly, you go mad seeing man, I'm telling you, man, that pork and ginger. - Oh no, I've had it. - Yeah, yeah. - It's great. - We were smashed one time and I was like, "Jerry." - But it's like vanilla beef. Why would I have a- - Vanilla beef?

- Don't start this again. Vanilla beef, really? Oh my God, man. - Like I would definitely, if I walk into a matzah, I'm ordering a beef bowl. - It's beef without attitude. - What can I say? That's pork. - Yeah. - That's pork. - Yeah. - Dude, pork is like beta beef. - Nah, nah, man. I don't know, man.

- I already know this is gonna be like the biggest comment war in the comment section out of like any shitty opinion on anime. - We have mainly Americans watching us and I feel that Americans will side with beef 'cause like beef is way more prevalent. - And they're right. - No, no, they're not right.

- You know what's an underrated meat? - What? - Lamb. Lamb is pretty fucking good. - Okay, here's the thing about lamb is that it has to be like really good quality lamb. - Yeah. - Because if it's not- - That's for you to Wales baby. - The aftertaste in lamb can be so overpowering that it just tastes like horror. - Yeah, lamb fucking sucks here, bro. - Yeah, sometimes leather, it's like eating leather essentially. - Yeah, we went to a restaurant once man and it was like a roulette wheel on this lamb thing.

For some reason, some of these lamb chops were like perfectly cooked. You had another one. It's like trying to chew through a tire, man. It was like, when do I just swallow it and give up? When do I just admit? - I had a chisel jaw line by the end of it. This is from all the fucking chewing I was doing. - It's like either my jaw dislocates or like I'm done, bro. - Or I'm choking on this fucking tire piece of a lamb.

- Yeah, there's just some meats like that. And especially coming from Wales where like, you know, they fuck sheep, that's the stereotype, right? That's what everyone does. I mean, lamb is fucking great. You get great lamb. - I guess like another question I have for you, which is like a conversation I've had with a lot of people who have never been to Asia. - Go ahead.

who had like never been to Asia or like lived in Asia is this concept of cooking your own meal in a restaurant, like going to a Korean barbecue or going to a Shabu Shabu and having to like cook your own meal and like cook your own meats. Like what was your opinion of that? - As a colonial white man, I'm sorry.

- Because I really liked that. I really liked the social. - The first time I went to Korean barbecue was with you and I was like, I'm just like, can't do this. Let the brown boy do it. - Because I really liked the social aspect of one being able to control like how, for example, how cooked your steak is and being able to do that yourself. - Yeah, sure we have Gordon Ramsay, right? He's a white man who can cook. That's an anomaly, right? White people can't cook.

I'll give it to every other culture. - Because there's a chain of pubs in Australia where inside of the pub, there's literally just a butcher of just rows and rows of steaks and meats and whatever. And you pick out whatever steak you want, you pay for it, they give it to you. And then you have to take that over to the barbecue and just make it yourself. - The reason why I don't like cooking it myself is one, I wanna pay the other person to do that, right? Like I don't wanna pay you so I can fuck up this piece of meat.

I'll go and do that at home. I'll go and fuck this up. - I don't wanna embarrass myself in public. - 'Cause the worst part is, is when you like go to Korean barbecue and you take someone there, when you take someone to Korean barbecue or any kind of barbecue like that, you're the one who has to cook. 'Cause you took them there. It's on you. And they just sit back and they're like, "Go ahead, go ahead." And then I'm like, "Fuck dude, how do I know this is cooked?" And the worst part is they're like, "Let's get chicken." I'm like, "Fuck."

- Fuck, fuck. When is chicken cooked? I don't know. 'Cause I'm personally, I will just let the chicken get black and I'm like, all right, it's safe to eat. - It's good to go. - It's safe to eat. - It's good to go. - It's just like, you're okay with going to a barbecue and having someone cook for you. So why can't you put that in like a restaurant experience, right? What's the difference? - I mean, 'cause it's like, we're all bringing our own meats, you know? We're all bringing our own- - You can just order like good quality meat, I guess.

Why would I do that at a restaurant when I could just do that at home? Are you at the exact same experience? - Because why'd you go to a barbecue? Why do people do barbecues? It's 'cause it's a social experience. - Hanging out with your friends, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's the exact same thing with a Korean barbecue. - That's exactly the same thing with like going to a Shabu Shabu or going to like a Korean barbecue. - Okay, if you gave me the choice, you're like Connor, you can have Korean barbecue where you cook it or Korean barbecue where the guy who works here and often comes on.

- They see you fucking burning the meat anyway and they come in like, "No, no, no, let me." And they start like, they're like, "They come and fix it for you." So just save the embarrassment and just do it for me right away. - But it's just like an activity, right? Because I feel like- - Just go and do an activity. Why are you gonna make your fucking meal into an adventure, bro? - Because like,

- Like, okay, here's the thing, especially like, I remember going to America where the only reason you like, especially hanging out with Sydney's family, like deep in the Midwest, like they only go to a restaurant to eat and that's just it. - I think that's how it should be.

- The only exception to me is hot pot 'cause you can't fuck hot pot up. You can't fuck that, you just throw everything in. Just throw it all in. - I don't know, I've seen people fuck up a hot pot. - Really? - Yeah, that's true, that's true. You can fuck up a hot pot. But like to me, like a restaurant can be like an entire experience where you like catch up with friends and everything. But like, I feel like in the West, you like, you don't go to a restaurant for anything else but the purpose of just having a meal and eating. - I disagree, I think it's,

- Changing a little bit now, at least it wasn't the UK before I left. Like it was very much becoming like an experience kind of thing over, you know, whatever the restaurant was. - There's been like some of the quietest restaurants I've ever been to have been in America. - Yeah. - Where no one is talking and they're just silently eating. I'm like, you could do this at home. - I don't like,

to make my meal that I look forward to all day into a stressful thing. Like if every time I took a shit, I had to put in like the input code and it's flashing on the bidet, dude, that's gonna, I don't wanna, yeah, it's a fun activity at first, but that's gonna get old real fucking fast. Like if you're adding steps- - I don't know if that's the same thing. - I mean, I just feel like you're adding steps to something that doesn't require steps, right? - But it does, that's where the enjoyment comes in. - Yeah.

- Why? - It's like a group activity, right? - Okay, shout out to the people who get anxiety with cooking. Like, I'm sure you can relate. You're like, why would I want to fuck this up when I could just pay someone to do it? - In my defense, like I can't cook to save my life. Like I fuck up a toast, right? Like that's the kind of like,

That's the kind of like fucking horrible- - And you will cook your own food in those restaurants? - And yet, I love going to Yakiniku and being the one to be like, "I'll cook the meat." - Yeah. - Because it's the one and only time I'm in front of food where I have control. - It's like a power move. - It is a power move. - Let me fucking have this. - Yeah. - Let me cook the meat. - Let me show you how it's done. - Yeah. - I mean, it's like, if you get impressed by someone putting meat on a grill, I mean, fair play to you, man. I'm not really buying that.

I'm like, "Go and work in the kitchen." Get out of my seat. - That's what I love about like yakiniku and like Korean barbecues is that it's literally, you just have a fucking meal of just grilled meat. - Yeah. - That's like having the burger without the barbecue. - Here's my main problem. - Cut out the fucking meal, man, and just give me the good shit, man. - I love yakiniku. Don't get me wrong, man. I love yakiniku. There is a fundamental problem with yakiniku. - Go on. - I hate the loading times for the meat.

- You can't skip the loading time. - You can't skip the loading, right? Okay, at a good restaurant, right? What would a good restaurant do? They prepare all the food so it comes out at the same time. That's the sound of a good restaurant, right? Because everyone could start eating immediately, right? With the Yakiniku place, right? Especially if you go with fucking Maylene, right? I wanna chuck all the meat on straight away so that we can start eating everything. And like we have a constant stream of meat coming in, right?

- Right. - Maylene, when I went with her, she wanted to put one tiny fucking piece of beef on it and wait five minutes. - Well, that's Maylene's problem. - Yeah. - You know. - That's why you don't go to a restaurant with Maylene. - What I'm saying is, when I like to eat, I wanna keep eating. - Yeah, that's why you gotta fucking optimize it. So you have- - He's got the strats down. - You can fucking optimize this because you have like the meats on it. And then as the meat's getting done, you put

- You put more meat on it and you put this on a side. - And then as you're eating the meat, then the other meat is cooking and there's never like a down period. - No, no, no, that's not true. That doesn't happen. In a realistic world Garnt, that isn't how it happens. - That is how it happens. - That is how it happens. - You've just not optimized your Korean barbecue experience. - Maybe you don't like yakiniku because you've just been to shit yakiniku. - Also, right? Here's another awkward scenario. I hate this, right?

Four of you go to Yakiniku restaurant, right? The A5 beef comes out. It's in six pieces. What do you do, Garnt? Who decides who gets how many A5? This is the A5 beef, Garnt, come on. This is like 8,000 yen for these six slabs. Who gets what, Garnt? 'Cause personally, I'm not gonna lie, I want two.

- Okay. - How do I argue? - That just goes down to the Asian experience of sharing your meals and sharing your like dishes, right? - How the fuck do we turn six into eight Garnt? - Cut one of them in half? - No, that's depressing bro. You can't do that man.

It's already pre-cut. - Asian families can do it no problem. - I need to do Monopoly mind games at my fucking family dinner to make sure I'm getting the most. - Let me tell you how to solve this. Because this happens every time. You have the four pieces, you have two pieces left. And then Connor's like, "So we're gonna eat these?" Okay, I'll just take it. - In my mind, right? - That is the experience hanging out with Connor. - In my mind, right? - He is that guy who's just like, "Listen."

- You know what's more stressful than when you're hungry and there's one piece left and nobody seems to give a fuck that there's one piece left on the table. It's like, are we gonna eat this or not? Because if no one's gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. - Then just do it. - No, because I also, you know, maybe, okay, with you guys, I don't give a fuck, right? I'll do it. But maybe when we first get to know each other, I didn't want you guys to go home and be like, why is Connor always fucking taking all our food, man?

He's always going for it straight away. He's going for the kill, right? This is a real social problem. 'Cause if I'm getting dinner right, every single time I have my piece, I'll chat a little bit. And I look to go and get my next piece and the fucking fat ass over there is taking it every time. I want to know that there's at least a cool down period between him eating one piece

and like there's at least a two minute cool down to wait, right? It's so stressful. There's so many social issues with meat being cooked on its own. Just let us all order our own shit. - I feel like you're like way too over complicating this man. - Listen, because you don't realize it Joey. - You're creating problems out of nothing. - No, no, no, no. 'Cause Joey, your social skills

are like perfectly normal human beings, right? You just glide through it. You don't worry about it. Joey just dances through it, man. For me, it's like a science, bro. It's a science, the social situations, right? You gotta make sure you don't do anything for a new person that could make you seem weird, right? So that includes not eating too much. If you go home and you think you're a fat ass, oh, get a load of this guy, right? Eating all our meat, right?

that we all split the bill on. He had the most, Connor should have paid the most. - Yeah, but in my mind, it's like, if you're not gonna eat it, you guys know we're splitting this meal. So if you're not gonna eat it,

I'm gonna just fucking take it. - But sometimes that hasn't been made clear, right? Who's splitting? Are we splitting this? Are we not? Like, we don't know. These are the awkward social situations that you encounter often, Joey. - Right, but I'm just like, well, you know, this opportunity of taking this last piece of meat is here right now. I don't give a fuck about like, oh, what percentage are we gonna split this based on how many pieces of meat we ate? - I'm jealous of you, Joey, that you can throw caution to the wind like that and just take the meat. - If people think I'm a fat ass, well then that's their problem. I have the full stomach, not you.

- You missed the opportunity, I take that opportunity. I'm an opportunist in that sense. - You say that like you're the one who always takes the last piece when it's me. - Yeah, it is you. - It's me, but I- - And in my head I'm just like, "Look at this fucking fat ass." - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What I do is I wait. You gotta wait, right? Until everyone, you're pretty confident that everyone has just decided they don't want this anymore. - Right, right. - And then you go in for the kill. You take the- - See, I've been in way too many situations where, it's such a Japanese thing, especially when you go to like a business dinner in Japan, there's always, it's like a rule. It's like a social rule to leave

one piece of whatever the fuck it is. - Why? That's so annoying. - Because it's this whole idea of like- - This is the Japanese culture of- - You're making a stressful situation. - No, you go. - Yeah. - No, you go. - It's like, please, please. - No, you go. - It's the crowd before me. It's the whole collective mentality, right? And so I've been in so many of those situations where in the end,

no one takes the piece at all. - And they just take the food back? - And then they just take the food back. - Oh no, dude, take me back to the kitchen. Give me all the one piece left over. - So that's why now, because I've been in so many situations where I'm like, why is he taking that away? There's still one piece left on it. I'm just like, let me use my Gaijin card for a second here and just like, give me that piece. - Think about all the wasted food that happened because of socially awkward situations. Wasn't it better if we all just like figured out a system? - It's just a piece of meat, bro. - It's not just a piece of meat, John.

- That's A5 beef you're talking about. - She meant something to me. - I mean, if it's A5 beef, fair enough. But if it's like another piece of like pork or something, I'm like fucking serious.

- This guy is so fucking, this guy gets two million subs. He changes man. No more hot dogs. No more spam for God. - Can I talk about one thing that I'm not a fan of in Japanese cooking culture, which is not really like widespread, but okay. So we're in a Rio can. Okay. And we have this mini grill.

And we have this mini grill next to us, right? Okay. And they put like a shellfish on the grill. - Abalone. - Abalone. They put a shellfish on this grill, right? - Expensive fish. - And we're all sitting next to each other. And then the fish, the shellfish starts dancing and turning. And I'm just like, "Hmm, okay. "Are shellfish meant to do that when they're dead?"

And then it looks like it's like trying to crawl off this grill. And then it goes from like, I slowly start to realize that shit's alive. I'm watching something being burned alive in front of my eyes and you expect me to eat this shit?

- Yeah, because you know that shit's fresh. - That shit was amazing. - It was so, yeah. - Isn't that like $50 a piece? - Yeah, you know why it was amazing? Because it was alive two minutes ago. - Dude, it was, okay. - There's fresh food and then there's witnessing a fucking murder before I'm about to eat. - It's a fucking abalone, who cares? It's not like it was,

like you knew this abalone. It's not like watching a friend die. - This man's like a meat eater and now he's fucking complaining that a shellfish dies in front of him. - I'm fine. - Would you kill every animal that you eat? Would you kill a cow? - Yeah, but like- - That's a fucking lie. You're sitting here being like, "Oh no, this shellfish died." - This cool abalone.

- You're telling me that you would kill a cow and eat it? - No, no. - You would kill a cow. - Because I need to be mentally prepared. - Mentally prepared? - Yes, yes. - We're fucking shellfish. - You eat all of this meat like it's nothing, bro. You never think about it, bro.

You can't just sit here and then pick and choose when you see a little thing squirming in front of you being like, oh, well I guess now I have a problem with this. - No, because like, okay. - Someone should do something about this. - I know animal needs to be killed in order for me to eat and everything. Like if I need to kill an animal to eat it, I'll fucking do it. But like, I need to be in like the mental head space. But when I'm sitting down at like a restaurant or something like that. - Fuck it, we're getting a chicken

I wanna see him kill it. - No, because it's not the only time it's happened. 'Cause like a few weeks ago I went to this teppanyaki place, which a teppanyaki is like a flat grill and a chef like cooks the food. - Oh yeah, I like that. - Yeah, fucking amazing. - Great that someone else cooks it for you. - Yeah.

- But I remember I was sitting there with Sydney and on the opposite side, the other people had just ordered lobsters. And so what happens is that they get the freshest lobster. They have like a tank. They have the tank with this like just lobsters in it. And they pick a lobster and the chef like puts a lobster in front of them. And it's like fucking trying to crawl around. And like, this is a fresh fucking lobster. Now I've seen lobsters being prepared by fucking Gordon Ramsay and shit.

he like puts a knife in like the spinal cord and like kills it instantly.

But not at this fucking restaurant. This fucking restaurant presents lobster, it's calling around and the customer's like, "Yes, this is a fresh lobster. "This is amazing." And the chef goes like, "Okay, brilliant." Puts the lobster on the grill and you just see it being fucking cooked and it's like trying to fucking crawl away. - To be fair, I'd rather see that than when you go in those shitty restaurants with those obviously dead lobsters in the tank that are like barely fucking alive 'cause they've been suffocated in their own shit.

I would rather the lobster probably have quite a painful death, but like it's over and pretty fast. It probably tastes better too. And it's not poisoning its friends. 'Cause when a lobster dies in that tank, bro, all those lobsters are dead. - I see the lobster squirming like really rapidly. I'm like, okay, this is a healthy young lobster. - That's a healthy boy. - What are you gonna do? Fucking take it out back and put a bullet in his head? What do you want? Yes.

- Yes, please. Kill it first. Kill it. - Who cares? - Kill it before you fucking burn it to death and give it like a few minutes of agony.

- I don't know. - This is how vegans are born. This is literally how vegans are born. - This guy is the same guy who would sit there and be like, "It doesn't taste fresh enough. Let me murder the cow myself. Let me grab the meat from inside its loins." - I don't know. If I know that I'm just gonna witness a murder before a meal, I'm like, "Okay, let me prepare myself for this." - I'm pretty sure they can't feel pain though or anything.

- I'm pretty sure they can't feel pain. - I don't know if they can feel pain or not. That's beside the point that I'm trying to make here. - I don't know if they feel pain, but I'll still always remember. - More than the flavor of that abalone we had at that deal con is his face.

- It was incredible. It was like you witnessed a box of kittens die. Like it's just a fucking abalone. - No, because I just, I have never seen any fucking living being just squirm right in front of my face as I'm about to eat it, I guess. It was just like, you can see the realization of my face when I'm just like, "We're grilling meat." Oh, it's moving.

- Why is it moving? I remember asking you guys, why is this thing moving? Is this alive? - And then I said like, yeah, it's alive. - Yeah, I'm just like, oh, it's alive. I'm just watching something being killed. - It didn't look very appetizing, I will say. 'Cause isn't it referred to as like a pussy in the-

- It does look like a bit of a vagina. - It does. - They have a nickname for it where like it's in Japan where like a man calls something. - Yeah, really? - I think some Japanese told me that like, yeah, it's famous for looking like that. - Yeah, it's straight up looks like a vagina. - So it doesn't look appetizing enough. And then it dies in front of you. - Imagine a squirming vagina on a grass.

- I wanna get monetized Joey, goddammit. - You're the one that brought up the fucking vagina. I didn't even know that shit. - But two of those words together in combination sound disgusting. - Or squirming vagina. - Joey stop. Smoo-dan can you fucking censor that shit please?

- Do you have any other food topics, anything else? I'm trying to think of, there's gotta be something else before we end this. - There's a lot of Japanese food out there that I feel just gets completely swept under the rug. Because again, the whole Western perception is ramen and sushi. That's it. That's all Japan has to offer. - Okay. - I mean, I think- - Okonomiyaki is okay. Okonomiyaki is like- - No, you take that back, motherfucker.

You fucking take that shit back. - Okonomiyaki is like a good like pasta in elsewhere. Like it's like a carb filling and it's very like, you know, you can't really get mad at pasta most of the time. That's okonomiyaki. - You're saying a lot of shit for someone in slap distance. At least Garnt is like on the other side of the table. - Okonomiyaki, which is like, how do I explain okonomiyaki? - It's a savory pancake.

- That's exactly my point. It's just a savory pancake. And it looks better than it tastes. 'Cause you see okonomiyaki and it's like the fucking shokugeki food porn. You could watch this thing and jack off to it basically. But when you actually eat it, it's just like,

- Wow, this should be up on the fucking painting. - I'm a finna quit this podcast. Just because I've never heard anyone, every time I've taken someone from overseas to an Okonomiyaki place, they've had the food wars experience. - It's just street food though. - It is a street food, but it's probably the best street food you can have. Like I will happily take an Okonomiyaki over like a yakisoba in my opinion.

- Maybe. - No, I'd take a Yakisoba. - As much as I love Yakisoba as well, don't get me wrong. Like all street food is great. - Okay, but like, okay. - It's all kind of meh tier for me. - Well yeah, because it's B grade food, right? It's street food, of course. It's not gonna be like, oh my God, this is the best meal I've ever had. It's just there to fill your stomach, right?

- In no world, if a Matsuya is nearby, am I not gonna choose Matsuya? - Matsuya is the definition of B grade food. What are you talking about? - Yeah, but like that's what I'm saying. It's the king of B grade. - The only difference between Matsuya and street food is that Matsuya has a logo. That's the only difference. - It's comfortable, man. It's comfortable. Yeah, sure, I saw a cockroach run across the floor one time. I don't give a fuck. The food tastes amazing. - Okay, so then if Matsuya started making like yakisoba and okonomiyaki, would you eat it? - No.

- What the fuck's the difference? - I get the same, 'cause dude, the beef bowls are like, if we're talking B grade food in Japan, beef bowls and pork balls are the king. - Oh yeah, of course. But you're not gonna get a beef bowl and a pork bowl at a fucking summer festival. You're gonna get an okonomiyaki or yaksum or takoyaki. - Yeah, when I get to the summer festival, I'm like, yo, this is sick. Google Maps, where's the nearest maps?

- Jesus Christ. I never want to go to a summer festival with you. We're just going to end up in a fucking . - No, cause like,

- I remember when we went, I think Aki got like all the fucking weird seafood. I'm like, oh, that's cool. That's really cool. - Yeah. - Let's go to a restaurant. - As the certified Japanese person. - That's what I am now. I'm the certified Japanese person of trash taste. That's all I am. - Why is anyone taking my opinion on food? I'm white. - What are the Japanese dishes that people should know outside of just ramen and sushi? And now we've mentioned sukiyaki, man. - Yeah, I feel that again, it's a lot of like,

- I mean, we've already touched upon a lot of them, right? Like Skemen is one, Skiyaki is definitely another one. - Yakitori. - Yakitori, like just a lot of, oh shit, a lot of street food, like just B grade street food. Like, you know, as much as you guys say that it's me, like I reckon not enough people try Okonomiyaki. - I will destroy an Okonomiyaki, don't get me wrong, but I'm not gonna feel happy about it.

- Yeah. Here's the thing, right? I feel like moving to Japan has just completely shifted my perception of what good food is. 'Cause you give me that shit when I come from England, everything's like S tier. Everything in Japan is like S tier compared to like what you can get in England. And then you live here, you're like, man, there's different tiers of it.

- There's like a single S tier, there's a triple S tier. - I saw an article that was shared around on Twitter. It was basically like, why does Japan and Switzerland have such a high baseline for what should be standard in terms of just everything in life? Especially food, just public transport, daily living.

Everything in life has such a high minimum requirement in Japan. In the UK, it's like I could pay like a hundred pounds and get a fucking garbage meal. In Japan, it's just not gonna happen. If you pay more than normal here, you will just get something good. - You'll get an experience. - I've never gone to a restaurant here where I've paid more than like the baseline and been disappointed. And even then, like I said, like the matzias, right? And the chains and the really average stuff,

It's so good that like anywhere you go in Japan, if you're not from here, you'll probably be really satisfied with it. And fuck, it must be awful being Japanese and traveling overseas and being like, wait, this restaurant was shit. I just paid a hundred pounds and it was garbage. - How is this legal? - They know it's shit, right? Yeah, of course they do. - They don't give a shit though. They don't give a shit, they don't care. - I don't know, it's just really interesting. And yeah, that is the baseline I think is why

when anyone asks you like, what is your favorite thing about Japan? I'm sure we can all agree that it's probably top three of like food. - The food, yeah. - The food is amazing. - I mean, I knew I was gonna like the anime or whatever. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - Yeah. - And yeah.

- Is hamburger on its own a devastation to hamburgers worldwide? Yeah, it is. But is it still gonna be better than any other country that does it? Honestly? - Yeah, it will be. - It's gonna be better. Like I'll admit that much. - That's the thing is that I think a lot of people who haven't come to Japan or know nothing about the Japanese food culture here think that when people say the food is just better in Japan, people, I think people are just quick

to be like, oh, they think Japanese food is better in Japan. Of course it is. - No, no, no. - Every food is better in Japan. - Look, let me just tell you like this. It just don't miss, okay? No matter where you go in Japan, you don't miss. - And even like foreign foods, like Italian food is such a unique flavor here, but in a really good way. The way I see it is,

Italian food in Japan is the way that New York pizza is to pizza. It's a totally different take on it that's still really good. - It still works. - It's really good. And I feel like it's the same way with a lot of the foods they have here. And so I love people ask, oh, you know, can you get like authentic? It might not be authentic, but who the fuck gives a shit if it's authentic? If it tastes good and it's amazing, who cares? - I mean, we recently found like an Indian,

- That's very authentic. - It's authentic, but it was also still good. - Amazing. - Destroyed my fucking stomach. - Like a proper Indian shit. - Like the naan was perfect naan. - If I'm waking up the next day and I'm not destroying my fucking toilet, that's not a proper Indian. - It's not a proper Indian. - I wanna be like doubting it.

every single moment until it's in my mouth. Then I'm like, I made the right decision. - Yeah, if I wake up in the morning and I don't know if it's a fart or a shot, that's how you know it's a good curry. - And that's been that episode of "Hot Jerky." - Hey, let's say thank you to all the patrons who help make this show come to life. - I will say, if you ever do come to Japan,

please get a hamburger just so you can finish this debate. - Honestly, just give anything a go. - Maylene pointed something out to us before we end. Unagi, Unagi is God tier.

- Oh my God, oh my God. Something we all agree on. - Do we all agree on? - Yes, eat the unagi. - Unagi, you explain. - Unagi is, it's like a boiled eel and then it's grilled and in this like beautiful sauce. I don't even know how to describe it. And they just serve it on the rice and don't get me wrong, it's very expensive.

- But it is worth the price. - It's a summer food and it is, you eat it and you feel clean, you feel happy, but you're getting that fillingness that you get from other stuff. It's so good. - It's so weird 'cause eating unagi is like in the middle of eating fish and meat. I can't explain it. Like it feels like a fish, but it,

- It's feeling like a meat. - It sits like a meat. - Yeah, it sits like a meat. - Eel sounds like something that like, I think a lot of Westerners, I mean, I know if you told me eel, I'd be like, "I don't wanna eat eel." But it falls apart, it doesn't taste fishy at all. It's so good.

- Yeah, okay, it's expensive. Like I think when we went to one- - We went to a really fancy one where you paid like 60 bucks for one. - I fucking paid 68 bucks for me. I know that's too much. I know that's a lot, but like my brain just turned off. I didn't look at the price. I wanted a large one. Give me the large one. It was like two and a half eels of this. And I was like,

- It was really fucking good. It was really fucking good. - And this is so fucking good. And like, if you come here during the summer, I highly recommend it. I think it is by far the best summer food in Japan. - Easily. - I don't think there's anything close to it. Winter food, a lot of heavyweight contenders, bro. But in the summer, I think Unagi is the king. - Yeah. - So in summation, if you ever come to Japan, apart from the usual ramen and sushi that you're gonna try anyway,

with regards to what we said. - Get in Nagi, you can still get it in the winter, it's good. - Get in Nagi, you can never go wrong with that. Tsukiman. - We need more people in the cult of Tsukiman. I need to build this cult. - The cult of Tsukiman. - Sashimi, get sashimi. - This is the only cult that you'll thank me later for.

For me, don't get curry. No matter where you get curry. - Yeah, you can get curry. - Try it, try it. - If you've never tried curry before, try it. - Japanese curry. - Japanese curry. But if you have tried curry before, to me, it's gonna taste exactly the same as everywhere else. - Try soba, you know, some healthy noodles. - Try soba. - Udon, just to confirm you don't like it.

- Bottom line, there's way more to Japanese food than ramen and sushi. There's so much more. And I guarantee everything you'll try here is either gonna be some kind of just a positive experience or just something life changing. - Yeah, before we end it, I wanna say that like when you eat food here, like you almost wanna cry because you just feel like someone cares.

You feel like someone really cared about us. - I almost did cry when I fucking- - We've already talked about that. - All the food, you're like, fuck man, someone really fucking cared about the quality here. And if that doesn't make you tear up every single time you have a bite of food,

I don't know what will. - I never thought I'd fucking almost cry over fucking noodles, but here I was. - Yeah, and it's the same thing like fruit, right? Like they have that saying of like, you know, the reason why it's so expensive is because so much love is put into it. You do really feel like, I know it's cheesy as fuck and I think it's dumb as fuck when they say it, but when you eat that food, you do feel like every single step of the process, everyone cares. - For some reason it's just a marketing ploy everywhere else, but in Japan, you actually kind of genuinely feel like, okay, yeah,

- Yeah, it might be. - You feel the love in the food. - Yeah, you feel like it's pride. There's so much pride in every single piece of food that you eat and you can just taste it. And just honestly, when you come here, go on Google Maps, if it's over four stars, it's gonna be amazing, I guarantee it. Just go everywhere, trust me. 'Cause they are fucking strict with their ratings. - 'Cause when you compliment the chefs, they actually appreciate that. - This is the only place on earth where I've actually wanted to be like, do the meme where it's like, "Can you call the chef over?"

- I need to shake his hand or something. - I gotta shake this man's hand, man. This man's done a masterpiece. - Yeah. Like if I ever get the opportunity, I like thank the chef. - Yeah, exactly. - I think that's everything we wanted to talk about. I can't believe the most heated podcast we've ever had. - Was about fucking meat.

- Was about meat and food. - Remember how this conversation started with me being pescatarian? This like made the school days debate like baby mode, man. - I just feel like it should never have been in debate. It's just not even a point. Like it's so fucking dumb. - You know what? You can start the debate over in the comments. We're gonna love looking through those. Or you can do it on our Twitter or subreddit, which is as always down in the description below. So meme the fuck out of our heated meat argument.

- But yeah, I think- - Will you beat our meat argument? - That was awful, I feel bad for laughing. - Thank you for all the patrons, you are amazing. This guy is my favorite. - Thank you for 500K and all the fucking milestones we hit. And this has been Trash Taste and we'll see you guys later. - Let's go smash a Tsukkoman. - Yeah. - I'm ready to fucking cry again, man.