The REAL Japanese Nightlife Experience | Trash Taste #15
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- Welcome to this episode of Trash Taste. I'm the boy. Why are you laughing? I haven't said anything funny. - You sound so robotic. - I don't know, it was like such low energy and I was just expecting you to like project your voice and you're like, welcome to the episode. - Yeah, like your cadence is really like uplifting, but just the volume you sent it out was just so unenthusiastic. - Welcome to Trash Taste podcast.

- I'm the monkey brain and today I, in my mirror went, I'm today with Jerry and Garnt of course. How are you guys doing today? - I mean much better now. I'm awake after that scream. - I needed that scream to wake me up, to get in the zone. - It works man, it works. I don't know if my neighbors, probably wakes them up as well actually. Probably hypes them. - They don't need an alarm clock anymore. If they just hear. - You got this Garnt.

- Oh my God, this. - It's like, oh, it's time to wake up, I guess. - Can't snooze that along. - Oh my God. So how have you guys been this week? - Good. - Yeah, pretty good. - We fucking see each other all the time. What are you asking me? What am I up to? - I mean, because like we've all three of us went on trips this week. - Oh yeah. - Do you wanna talk about that?

- Yeah, sure. We went to rafting. It was not white water rafting. It was like playing a cut scene. That's basically what our rafting trip was like. Like we had to like paddle, like the maximum was like three times. And then the rest was just,

floating downstream in the river. - It did feel like a shitty "House of the Dead" cut scene-esque sequence where you press the gun once. - Yeah, we had that quick time event where you had to press X three times and then that was like the interaction with the cut scene. - At one point they were like, "Yeah, you can jump in the river." And then they were like, "Yeah, so you wanna just put your foot in the main gun?" Just fucking jumped in head first. But then I didn't realize it was like this deep.

So I immediately was like, yes, it's my time. And I just like jumped in and fucking slammed my helmet into the floor. - At least you're wearing a helmet. - I'm pretty sure they were gonna warn us that it was too shallow. But the moment they said you can jump in, before they could explain anything else, me and Connor just like jumped head first in. - Funky brain. - 'Cause it was so hot and we were just dying to jump in. - I really, really wanted to jump in the water the whole time.

- Oh my God. - But Joey went on vacation with his other friends. Can you believe Joey has friends outside of us two? What the fuck? - No. - The fuck, Joey? - They're acquaintances. - No, I went up to Hokkaido to Hakodate. - Fuck you.

- I'm so jealous. - Without the boys, I know, what absolute blasphemy. But it was just so fucking nice because actually, speaking of which, I've got like a bunch of like presents for the boys. - Oh, okay. - This is a surprise. - While Joey's getting his presents out, we have a new camera angle. That's because we need the space behind it. If you hate it, that's tough shit. You're gonna have to get used to it. - Yeah, this podcast studio is actually relatively small. I remember the first thing Chris said when he came into the podcast was like, "Oh, it looks a lot bigger on the camera." - It's like, "What is this prison room?"

- But our camera used to be like right in the back and we basically couldn't use the center of the room and half of it. - There's just like a lot of empty space that we couldn't use if we use the old camera. Hey, if you'd like to see the behind the scenes, then follow us on Twitter. Hey!

- But okay, here you go. - Oh, thank you very much. - So this is one of the gifts. - I did not get you a gift. This is kind of awful. - I feel bad now. - This is two trips you've been on where you've gotten me a gift now and I've been on one. - Yeah, the first time I got you guys gifts, the fucking snacks expired before you even ate it. - You never told me I should eat them quickly. - Okay, eat these quickly then. - We'll just eat these now.

- Okay, so this is like a type of cookie. - You know what? - Yeah, just rip it open. - I'm monkey brain, what am I doing? - I'm gonna be civilized. - So this is a type of-

- You're like a five-year-old. - Yeah, so this is a type of cookie that you can only get in, or Hokkaido it's kind of known for, it's called , which means white lover. - He gave up his love. - I'm civilized. - It was so well wrapped that I just needed to bust that shit open. - Yeah, so this is a type of cookie that you can only get in Hokkaido. It's called . - Thank you very much, Joey. - Really, really nice. It's like white chocolate milk cookies 'cause Hokkaido is known for its milk.

- Right. - Hokkaido is known for like a lot of things. - Dude, Hokkaido has one of- - Milk, milk I've heard it's amazing. - Dude, but Hokkaido has like perfected food. That's the only way to describe it. Everything I had in Hokkaido tasted so much fucking better. - It's like a cream pie. - Yeah, kind of. Oh, don't say that. - It's everywhere. - Oh wow. - Oh no, it's- - Is it melted? - No, no, no, it's all good. - Is it good? - Ooh. - Pretty good, isn't it?

- Yeah, which like when I heard you say like Hokkaido has amazing food, I'm thinking, man, anywhere in Japan already has amazing food. I can't imagine somewhere leveling up that food somehow. - Like if it's just like the seafood, even just for the seafood, right? Because where I was in Hakodate, it's a coastal town.

- It's really good. - So they catch all of the seafood there like fresh at the fucking port and it's, oh my God. They have a fish market there that we went to in the morning and all of the seafood that they sell there, they caught that morning. So it's the freshest seafood you can ever get. Legit, think of the best seafood you had and just imagine that is just trash.

because that's what it's like. - It's garbage. - It's garbage compared to what you can have in Hakodate. So I got you another thing as well because I thought it was funny. So there is this- - You got a wishlist on Amazon or something I can like repeat? - I wanted to get this for you guys because I feel it's very indicative of the kind of vibe that we go for. - All right, okay. - It's clown juice. - What? - Here's some clown juice for the boys.

- Hamburger Periot, Lucky Periot. - Yeah, so there's this hamburger joint that's specific only to Hakodate, not even Hokkaido, and it's called Lucky Pierrot. And they have their own branded energy drinks. Because do you guys know what like guarana is? Like the fruit that they use in like Red Bull and stuff like that? - Oh yeah. - They grow guarana in Hokkaido. And so I guess they just took that and it's literally just clown juice.

- You literally just sent us an IRL clown emoji. - Yeah, I was like, here's your clown card, drink up boys. - Anytime one of us has a shit take, we've got to take a drink. - Yeah, just take a sip of the clown juice. How is it though? - Tastes like an energy drink. - Honestly, for me, it kind of tastes like, how weird is it to say, it's like a healthier Red Bull. - It's like a Red Bull with a stronger aftertaste. I don't know, it's definitely got that. - I think that's definitely the Guarana you're tasting.

- I can't decide if it tastes cheap or expensive. - Well, let me tell you, this was 150 yen. - I'll tell you what, it actually tastes like a Thai Red Bull. - Oh really? - And to explain what Thai Red Bulls are like, so Red Bull actually originates from Thailand.

- Oh really? - And yeah. - I didn't know that. - So Red Bull actually originated from Thailand, but the version they have in Thailand is not carbonated. It's like a thick syrup. And whenever like the only people who drink, really drink Red Bull in Thailand is like truck drivers who like need to stay up. Because you drink one and that's like drinking five, the equivalent of like five Red Bulls you get anywhere else. - Jesus Christ. - Or one American breakfast. - Yeah, but I think this has probably the same amount of caffeine as like a regular Red Bull,

- I think we're gonna be loaded on this podcast. - But yeah, so, but they also have like the non-carbonated stuff as well. So they have like guarana juice, which is just this basically it's as you said, it's like a non-carbonated Red Bull essentially. And I had that and actually tastes really fucking good. And I think it works better than a coffee in my opinion, even though it has just as much caffeine as a coffee. So suffice it to say that for the rest of this episode,

- We all just fucking had a coffee. - You're gonna see when this energy drink hits. - Yeah. - 'Cause we're gonna be like- - You'll be able to see the heart palpitations through the screen. - I need like a beer to like down it. - No, we definitely gonna like, we're just gonna kill ourselves this episode. - Yeah. But yeah, I just wanted to get you guys some gifts. - Oh, thank you, Josh. - Yeah, thank you very much. Now I feel super bad that we didn't get anything. - No, it's okay.

- Although we didn't really get any souvenirs either for ourselves. - That's all right. But like hopefully like we'll actually be able to take like a proper boys trip up to Sapporo. 'Cause I know like you guys have been saying how much you wanna go up to the North, right? - Yeah, I really do. I really, really do. - I really wanna go in the winter 'cause it seems like really a lot of things happening in the winter. - Oh yeah. - I wanna hit up the onsen.

in the winter. - That's gonna be so nice. - I just wanna get naked. - I just wanna get naked with the boys. - We haven't talked about onsens on this podcast publicly, have we? - I've seen your guys' dicks so much now that I don't even question it, going to the onsen with you. - Are you mad? - The first time we went to the onsen together, I was like, "Oh, we gotta see each other's

- Penises? - Yeah. - Ew. - You know how Yoshikage Kira's like, "It's kind of lewd." But now it's just like, "Oh, whatever, we're getting naked with the boys." - Another day with the boys. But I feel like a lot of people are afraid to go to onsens for the first time because of that barrier, right? Where you just have to be naked in front of the boys. - I mean, in a lot of countries, it's not very normal, is it? - Some people have been like, "Yeah, you wanna come to the onsen with me?" And you know, they...

immediately it's like, no, I don't wanna do that. I'm like, why? And they're like, oh, 'cause I don't wanna get naked. And I'm like, it's just that. It wasn't even like a decision. It was like in the head, it was like, of course it's no, I'm not getting naked. - But everyone around you is naked. It's like, you're not gonna be the only one that's naked. - It's like most European countries, everyone's naked. - But that's surprising though, isn't it? Is that like, I've tried to convince so many of my European friends to go on onsen because in my head it's just like, oh, bathing together is like a very normal thing in Europe, in a lot of European countries.

So I'm like, oh, well if it's normal in their country and their culture, then it must be easy. So many times I'm like, hey, you wanna go to the onsen? They're just like, no. - I think, I don't know, maybe like our generation, it's like less of a thing than it was

- Yeah, in the older generation. 'Cause I remember trying to convince my cousin to go to the onsen when he visited Japan. And it was just like breaking down layers, right? So first I'm just like, yeah, it's kind of like, how can I, how can this, like, 'cause he's the biggest normie you can imagine, right? So how do I explain the,

cultural significance of like an onset and a hot spring to someone who has never watched an anime. - This is the same cousin that watched the live action at that one time. - Yes, yes, yes. - Okay, okay, okay. - And like, he's like seven, eight years older than me. So he's from like the older generation as well. So had to be like, okay, so it's kind of like

it's kind of like a hot tub, but it's like a public hot tub. And then he was like, "Oh yeah, that sounds fun." So he was like, "Oh yeah." - Does it? - Yeah, so you wear like a bathing suit and everything, right? And I was like, okay, so here's the thing here. You just, everyone's naked and you know, and that's, it's just a really relaxing experience and it's a really cool experience. And his voice tone just like completely changed to just, "Oh yeah," just to, "Oh."

- I don't know about that one, Chief. I love how you had to go in such a roundabout way. It wasn't just like a, yeah, we get naked. It was like, well, I mean- - We get bathing suits, we just take them off. - Yeah. - We just take them off. - You can wear bathing suits until you enter.

- Yeah. - 'Cause like, what was the first onsen experience for you guys like? 'Cause I remember- - I was with you guys. - Yeah. - I think it was when we all went with, I think it was us three and Alan. - Yeah, that was the first time. - Yeah, in the Oedo Onsen in-

I'm pretty sure, which is like a massive, it's like a super cent or super onsen as it's called. - And I remember the fact of like knowing that we're gonna get naked in front of each other. That was just like, I think I just built it up in my mind so much. 'Cause I'm just like, oh, it's about to happen. It's about to happen. - I mean, I remember that day, like we all stepped into the onsen and Alan was like, "All right lads, whip them out."

Let's just get it out of the way. Let's just like, let's just all gather around in a circle and we'll just look at each other's dicks and then just be over it. And we're like, all right, three, two, one. We'll look at your dicks. It's like, okay, we're good. No one's popping a fat. All right, we're good.

- Yeah, and then it just literally took five minutes and then I was completely comfortable. And then it was an amazing experience. I feel like people who are so afraid to go over that barrier are missing such a good experience of going through nonsense. - It's an experience you can't really,

I feel like even I've been to kind of, you know, public bathing places in Europe as well, but there's just, I don't know. It just, I don't want to say it hits different, but you know, there's something that's quite right. - There's the vibe is just different. - Yeah. - It's definitely like vibe check.

- Hey yo, onsen check. - Onsen check, yeah bro. - I don't think we have public bathing places in Europe, do we? But we have like the saunas, which are the best. - It's kind of similar, right? - I guess, yeah. You don't really bathe together. You just get in the sauna naked and some people are like, you know, they'll cover themselves. - I don't know, because for me, it's not just the onsen experience. It's like everything around the onsen experience.

getting out of the onsen when you're like, especially in the winter, sitting out in the public onsen when it's like really cold or sometimes raining. And I've heard when it's snowing, it's amazing as well. - So good. - Yeah. Like that's like, I've heard it's like proper anime weather. Like there's mist and everything. - Yeah. - I want to experience that one day, but after coming out and having that drink of cold milk,

That's like the most refreshing- - Hand on the hip. - Hand on the hip. So what do you do? You have to like put your hand on the hip, drink the milk in one and it's like the most refreshing glass of milk. But it's like vibe, right? You gotta do it. And then having like an izakaya beer afterwards is just fucking incredible. - When you're in an onset, for some reason it makes you wanna just be a CEO and talk business. Like I don't even have business to talk about, but I'll be like, gentlemen, let's discuss.

the topic at hand and they're like anime titties. It just makes you wanna talk about important things, taking a bath with three other people. - It's exactly the same kind of vibe, but like a different kind of vibe. But like, so we went to, the other day went to a cigar bar. I don't know what it is about having a fat cigar in your hand. You just wanna talk business. - You take a puff, you're like, fuck, we have a problem. We need to eliminate someone.

- There's a rat in the group. We got exterminated. - I remember we went for cigars with PewDiePie, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And he was like, "Damn, your voice got even deeper with the cigar." I was like, "I was made for this, Felix."

- The first time I had that cigar, I was like, oh my God, I could finally understand why mafia bosses feel so powerful with a cigar in their hand. Because it's like- - It's got an energy to it. - Yeah, there is, yeah. - I never smoke at all, but for some reason, the idea of cigar, I was like, that sounds good, I like that. - Well, because unlike a cigar, right? Like you don't inhale the cigar smoke, right? So I mean, like,

Don't get me wrong. It's still bad for you. - Oh, it's still terrible. - It's still terrible for you. - And you come out of the bar smelling like you've just like puffed an exhaust pipe. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? That's kind of the smell that you get. - Yeah. But man, you feel so powerful. Like just with that aura of cigar around you. Like, yes, I just came out of a cigar bar, what of it? - I do business, what I do, you know?

- Yeah, you do have like a different aura around you, don't you? You just feel powerful. - It's like when you order a drink at a bar, it's like, you're like the Virgin. When you order a drink at the cigar bar, it's like, oh, there's a chat. He's like, what do you want? Name a cocktail, any cocktail, a vodka. - What do you always get again? Espresso martini. - Espresso martini, if you haven't had it, it's an amazing drink. It's just coffee.

just with a vodka basically. - Yeah, pretty much. - It's amazing. It tastes great. - It's just coffee with attitude. - I love my- - Coffee with attitude. That's all it is. Am I not wrong? - What a terrible way to describe it. - It's a coffee with attitude. - That's like- - It is. - Describing anything with attitude. - Why are you booing me? I'm right.

- 'Cause it's such a like, I don't know, that sounds like how a Disney character would be introduced in a short. Oh yeah, he's the bully with attitude. - I'll take a coffee with attitude, please. Hold the attitude.

- I hate it here. I hate it here. - It's like today when you got a Frappuccino and you're like, no, I didn't just get a Frappuccino, I got an espresso Frappuccino. It's like, oh my God, you couldn't enough sound any more white. - It's like 35 Celsius. I want an ice cream and a drink in one, but I also want a coffee. So yeah, I normally think Frappuccinos are awful, but I bent my own morals. - Yeah, so you basically got a Frappuccino with attitude, right?

- I hate it here. I hate it here so much. - Just add anything with attitude and I'll just make it sound that much more horrible. - All the fucking comments now are gonna be like, "Damn, that was something with attitude." - Yeah.

- I want that to be a meme. - Oh no. - That's gonna be a meme now. - I'm gonna describe everything with something with attitude now. - Yeah, it's something with attitude now. - You're welcome. - Speaking of cigar bars, I think the topic for today that we wanted to discuss was nightlife in Tokyo, right? - Yes. - Or in Japan in general. - Yeah, just in Japan in general. - True, true. I mean, I wouldn't know, I haven't,

- I've been at night outside of Japan. - For a while. - For a while, yeah. - I miss home. I miss the English. - 'Cause I mean like what is a typical like nightlife for like say UK or Thailand or Australia? 'Cause like I don't know what the nightlife is in Thailand at all. - I mean the nightlife in Thailand is,

- Let me ask the question, does it exist? - Yeah, of course. - That's all Thailand is. - It definitely exists. And there's different kind of vibes you can go for. You can go for like a disgusting cheap, like nightlife in Bangkok, or you can go for like some more extravagant bars and everything. It's very varied, but I don't know if I would say that there's like a significant culture that exists.

pertains like all of Thailand. But I feel like with Japan, there's definitely like the Izakaya culture, which I fucking love. Like you talk about nightlife in Thailand, whenever I'm in Thailand, I just go to a Izakaya. 'Cause I like the vibe that much. - That's the thing, right? Like I feel an Izakaya is just, I mean, should we explain what an Izakaya is just in case people don't know? - Sure. - For those who are uncultured, basically a Japanese pub.

- Basically, but like- - It's like a restaurant and a pub combined. - It's like 75% pub and 25% restaurant is what I'd say. But like in a pub in the UK, I feel like- - But it's not depressing. - Yeah, yeah, it's depressing. And also for some reason, I always feel pressure to leave in the UK or like just drink, like not sit down and eat. I have this pressure that's like drink, don't you? You're not here to eat. 'Cause like when you go with your friends to the pub, I'm always that asshole who's like, I'm getting a meal.

- Yeah, because it's just really inconvenient 'cause you're there with like a table full of pints. - Tiny table normally. - Yeah, yeah. And then there's this guy who just orders like a three course meal and you're like, where are we meant to fit this? I don't give a shit. - You're expecting us to hold our beers? - I would like slowly nudge the 12 beers out of the way to make room for my like extravagant curry from Wetherspoons. And the table's like down here. You're like this. - Just like bombing out. Do you like pubs?

- In the UK? - Yeah. - I love them in London. I thought London had great pubs. - I don't know, I really don't like pubs. - Really? - Pubs are the one thing about the UK that I, like anytime I go out the UK, I'm like, yes, this is a much better drinking establishment than a pub. 'Cause it's just, I don't know what it is about pubs in the UK. I just find it so fucking depressing. 'Cause yeah, I can see that. - It depends, it depends which one do you go to. London has a ton of pubs that are like really lively and really great atmosphere, but they're also equally as many. - I mean, you guys took me to one

It was like a gaming pub. - That's shut down now. - Oh really? - That pub was a mess there. - I wouldn't even call it a gaming bar. - That was like a gaming bar, but like the dirtiest gaming bar. - What was it called again? - Meltdown. - Meltdown. - It was like a gaming bar with like five PCs, one dirty old Wii U. - No, it wasn't even a Wii U, it was a Wii. - A Wii U and like,

- They would be like the same people who would hog the PCs and there was no limit or anything. So it was just awful. It was terrible. - Yeah, it wasn't that great. - You compare a gaming bar to anywhere else and you're like, dude, they've got games. - They got real games. - The way I would describe Meltdown is basically like a uni bar. - Yeah, it was. But they charged London prices. - But they charge more than the uni bar.

- It was just like a rundown bar and like every single bar in London that is even remotely interesting, I feel is sort of rundown, unfortunately. - Yeah, I can see that. - 'Cause I don't know, the thing about pubs that I hate is that for some reason they just seem so dark. I don't know, it's- - I think what pubs you go into, man. There's so many in London that are so fun. - Anytime I go to like,

pub styled bar like anywhere else. The first thing I notice is, man, it's so bright in here. This is nothing like British pubs. This is nothing like British pubs at all. - Are you like going to the pubs that are like down the alley like?

- You must be going to like the proper like local pubs. 'Cause in the UK there's the pubs that anyone goes to and then there's the pubs that have like the exact same 30 people go to that. And those are the depressing as fuck ones. - I don't know, most 90% of Wetherspoons I'd say fit under that category. - Yeah, okay, most Wetherspoons are. Wetherspoons is a brand of pubs in the UK. It's just like this ultra treat brand.

- You took me to one. - I did take you to one. I think it's- - The reason people go there is 'cause of the very, very cheap drinks and cheap food that you can get there. - What was those like five pounds for like a full course meal or something with a beer? - You basically get like a full course meal with an alcoholic drink for like seven pounds, which is like $9. In London, which is like in London, the drinks alone normally were like $8, which I'm probably people in California are like, oh, that's true. But like in the UK that's-

- Bear in mind where I grew up, a drink that's over three pounds, which is like $4 is like, whoa, they're getting a load of this guy. - Because if you go to a pub in Australia, like for a pint, it's like nine bucks. - Yeah, I mean, the Wetherspoons, which is the cheap areas where I grew up, it was like, their main selling point was like two pound pints. - Jesus.

some of the special brews were like one pound 60. So that's like $2 something for a pint. You have no wonder that there's like people are in there from like 2:00 PM until 9:00 PM just dead. - Getting their money's worth. - Yeah, 'cause like to me, pubs are just the place where you pre-drink before you actually go out to the establishment you want to go to. That's how I see it. Whereas with Izakaya's, I can fucking stay there from the beginning of the night to the end of the night. - You don't feel pressure to leave and you normally have like,

that normally cordoned off decently well when you feel like it's just you and your mates. Whereas sometimes the pubs having to see everyone around you is a little like, oh my God, it's busy. - Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like about, I guess like UK style pubs. And there are a few of those in Japan as well. There's this place called The Hub.

which I'm sure you boys are aware of. Don't go to there by the way, because it's like going into a UK pub, but in Japan. So why the fuck would you do that? - Okay, but- - But it's a little bit brighter. - I've heard though, if you're a foreigner and you really wanna pick up some people who are really into foreigners, they're probably there because they know that foreigners go there. - If you have the yellow fever, but can't be bothered to go the traditional route, go to the hub. - The hub in Shibuya, you'll be fine. - Yeah, but like,

Like every time I go into a hub, it's just, well, first of all, it's like 99% foreigners. - It's also very depressing. - It's also very depressing because it's like kind of structured like- - That's what I'm saying, right? - It's structured like a UK pub where like the seats are kind of sporadic and then everyone is standing around you. So you just feel really claustrophobic. - Yeah, I don't mind standing and drinking. Sometimes standing is fun when you're drinking. - I don't know, like I need a table.

- There definitely needs to be a table there where I can leave my drink. If I'm just like standing in a corner, which sometimes on like a Friday or Saturday night in England where some pubs are crowded and you just have to stand there in the middle of the floor, just with your mates. I'm just like, this is not the vibe I want to go for. - My legs hurt, I wanna sit down. - Like the thing I like about,

is that you're always sitting down, you have your own sanctioned corner where you can just sit and talk to your mates. And it's just like the perfect kind of catch up vibe that I look for when I just wanna just chill with my mates and just shoot shit and stuff. - It's also so cheap. Like you can go to any Izakaya here and like the most you'll pay for a beer is like what? Like 400 yen maybe.

That's like a pretty expensive one. - That's an expensive one. - I'm saying like the max you'll pay is like 400 yen. - Normally you pay between 200 and 300 yen for like a beer, which is like two, $3. - I went to an Izakaya though where it was 50 yen beers.

- What's the point? - 5:00 PM. How do we even compete? 'Cause one thing that doesn't make sense to me, right? Is that sometimes it's cheaper to drink in an izakaya than it is to go to a family mart or a konbini and buy like- - A can of beer. - Buy a can of beer. Which like, can you imagine if that was the case in the UK? Like if going to Tesco is more expensive than going to your local Wetherspoons, I'm just like, nobody would drink at home. Everyone would just be out constantly drinking.

- I think the UK economy would just stop. I think the country would fail. - Oh my God. Yeah, but like, I think the one thing I like about Isekai is that, again, like even people who don't drink can still go to an Isekai and have a good time because as you know, we've established, like it's mostly like,

drink based, but the food a lot of the times is also so freaking good and cheap that you could probably, you probably won't have as much fun if you weren't drinking, but you can easily take your friend who doesn't drink at all. And they'll probably still have a decent time. - Yeah, 'cause like the food there, you can easily order a lot of like snack kind of foods. It's not like you have to order a meal. You know what I mean? - It's all your giant fucking pub food.

- Yeah, yeah, exactly. - I will say though, I do feel like the food is a coin flip sometimes at the Isekai's. You can normally tell which one's gonna have bad food, but-

sometimes the food is just really bad. - Are you only saying that because you got food poisoning the other day? - I did get food poisoning very recently from an izakaya. But then the more I've been living in Japan and the more I've been eating out at restaurants in Japan, the more I realized like, my God, this food is so much better than the izakaya food. I'm like, yeah, it's fine. Normally just sticking to karage which is like the Japanese boneless fried chicken.

- Don't get me wrong, like the izakaya food is good, but there's definitely like, if you want proper food, you need to go to like a proper establishment. - There's sometimes they're on an izakaya and I'm eating it and I'm like, God, this food is depressing. It's like, really? Like there's one near where we're filming this that like the, you know, the one, it was the underground place. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

they had like the driest chicken I'd ever seen in my life. You'd think of like, they'd have like let this chicken out to like die in the Sahara desert before they like harvested it. - Yeah, it was pretty anemic, wasn't it? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And everything on it was just kind of like, all right, I guess you just didn't love your job today. - Yeah, the food. Yeah, that one is definitely like, it's not,

- But you know it's gonna be that bad when like the menu, everything is like 150 yen. - Oh yeah, well you get what you pay for sometimes. - Right, right, right. - But like comparing izakaya food to some of the like the pub food that I'm used to, I don't know. - I think pub food's really fucking good in the UK.

- Really? - Yeah, maybe I'm too white to make this point. - I don't know, 'cause if I had the choice, pub food is where I go if I like have no other choice or if I can't be bothered to cook for myself. - I promise, right? Hand on heart. If I had to choose between izakaya food and English pub food, I'd go with pub food. - Really? - No joke, no joke. - Izakaya food or away from me. - I think I'm gonna go izakaya. - Okay, Joey's fucking.

- He's never gonna admit that. I don't care about your opinion. - Okay, shut up for a second. - Okay, fine. - Okay, like, 'cause it's the kind of the same thing with Australian pub food as well. - I don't know man, I can't comment. You Aussies are wild. - 'Cause Australian pubs is kind of the same as the UK pubs, right? Where most people just go to drink

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a stupid amount of money. - Right. - Right. And so sometimes- - So it's like a cost thing. - Yeah. Well, yes. - So what I'm hearing is that I smell broke. Joey's broke. - You will be once you go to an Australian pub, you will be. It's like 25 bucks for a fucking pizza. It's just not worth it. But the thing is, is that with Australian pub food, a lot of it's good, but it's just like, you know, even before you go into the pub, what food is gonna be there.

There's just so little variety. Same thing could be said with izakayas, but I feel that- - It's always the same shit in izakayas. - I don't know, man. Like different izakayas have different things that they specialize in, I feel. - Yeah, but then, yeah. - But pubs are always just like burgers, pizza. - The reason I love izakaya food is like, they're designed to go well with the beer or alcohol that you're drinking. It's just like the perfect, it's like the synergy you were talking about, the pizza synergy. - I was right about that, by the way.

- It just synergizes so well together. Whereas with pub food, it is like the same. - It's just like put this in your stomach. - I think sometimes it is, but not all the time. Like there's been plenty of izakayas we've been to where I'm like, this is just weak. Like this is mid, as you would say, Joe. - I mean, I wasn't gonna say it. - Even like the mid izakayas are still better than like,

some of the best pub food. I don't know. I just don't like pubs. I'm sorry, England. I don't like pubs. - You know what though? I do really like Irish pubs for their food. 'Cause I feel that at least with Irish pubs, unlike UK pubs, there's a little more variety in the food. And there's, I feel at least from my experience,

- I took you to shitty pubs though. - Yeah, but I feel less pressure to get out of an Irish pub than I do a UK pub if I'm not just sitting there drinking. - I like Irish pubs. - It's normally, what were you talking about, in Dublin or? - Yeah, Dublin and I went to some in like Limerick and stuff like that, like all around Ireland. - Yeah, I mean, in the UK,

apart from England, 'cause I think a lot of England is just depressing outside of the big cities. No offense. Like in the small towns in like Wales and stuff, there's some really fun pubs 'cause it's just like 20 people. - Yeah, but I'm not gonna go to Wales. - No, no, you're not. There's no reason to go to Wales, Joey. - I wasn't gonna say that. - I'm sorry, Wales. It's true. We have to accept that fact. Unless you like nature. - I like sheep. - Do you like nature, Joey? - I like sheep. - All right, do you like rundown castles? Do you like those?

- It's a hit or miss for me. - All right, well, you'll love where- - That's all it is. - Well, there's not really too much to do. - I wanna go to that fucking lake that has the longest name in the world. - Oh no, that's not a lake, that's a town. - Oh, it's a town. - Yeah, and it's is the town name.

- Honestly, you could have completely made that up. I'd be like, yes. - Is that true? Did I do it correctly? I actually was gonna make a video where I went to that place. I actually filmed it. - Was that a town where the news anchor pronounced it perfectly and that just went viral? - Yeah, so I went there and I filmed a video actually. I have all this footage still. - So wait, so what's in it?

- It's just me going around this place, just checking out. - No, but I mean, what's the town like? - It's fucking dead. There's fucking nothing there. - It's just dead because no one can pronounce the place? - Maybe. So it was like two hours drive from where I grew up. So I asked one of my mates, I was like, "Hey, can we go here and just film a bunch of shit?" I don't know why. I was like, "Fuck it, maybe something fun will happen." Nothing fun happened, obviously. But there was also a climbing place that we wanted to go to. So I was like, "We'll just go there after we're done filming." - You mean the hill?

- No, no, no, like a climbing gym. - Oh, climbing gym, okay. - It was a huge, huge warehouse. Pretty cool. So if you wanna go there, there's a climbing gym in front of that. But I went there and it was just a bunch of tourists from England who were like,

very, very old, like 60s plus, just hanging around, just checking it out. There's like a gift shop, tiny. And then there's a bunch of stores and I went in there, you know, asking like, 'cause we were in a really West part of Wales and they normally could speak Welsh. I was like, oh, well maybe I'll ask around, see if anyone could speak Welsh. No one could speak fucking Welsh. - Really? - Yeah, yeah. I was surprised 'cause normally in that far West, I think that county is the one with the highest rate of Welsh literacy as well. So yeah, nothing there. - Nothing there? - So if you've ever wondered what's there,

- Nothing. - Nothing. - That's just a really comically large train sign. - Yeah. - It's actually like- - How do they fit in? Is it like on like size two font? - No, no, no. You know like the normal, so normally in the UK, each one has like the standard size of font. It's quite big. They literally just added on a ton. - There's a really, yeah, there's a really funny image. - They all done a bunch. - There was a really funny image of a guy like standing next to it and it's like 10,

- It's really, really, I'll have some footage up from the video that Mudan can just show on screen right now. It's fucking huge and it's sad 'cause none of the trains stop there either. There's a really like train that goes direct to London that doesn't stop through there. And I think it's only local trains. - I mean, at least you have plenty of time to read it as you go past. - I wanna hear how like the train lady pronounces it. Like, is there like an automated message that pronounces that? - So it's shortened to like Llanfair PG or Llanfair Pwllgyngig.

- Oh yeah, okay. - Which is still awfully long. - It just sounds like you got a lot of flames stuck in your throat. - Right, right, right. But okay, the problem is, right, even with Wales, right, if you look around the rest of the map, like all the town names are just as bad. - Really? - Around that area to pronounce. I can't pronounce some of them without taking like three minutes to look at it and be like,

It's kind of hard. That was a nice tangent. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Cute little town in Wales. Don't go there, nothing there. - Don't go there. - I mean, I live next to some like weird sounding places as well. I remember when Joey came to visit, I took him and Aki to this place called Devil's Dyke. - Devil's Dyke. - I remember saying that, oh yeah, I'm gonna take you guys to Devil's Dyke. Aki's face was just like, what did you just say? Because do you guys like, is dyke,

- Does the word dyke have the same meaning? - Yes. - Yeah. - It also means like a hill. - Right. - But there's tons of fucked up names in the UK. There's places called like White Knight and stuff like that. - Yeah, there's another place I live next to or close to called Cuckfield. Every time I'm on the train and it goes past that, I just have a little laugh to myself.

- There's like Cockfosters as well in London. - Cockfosters. - One of the main trains stops at Cockfosters finally. So it's like, this is the train to Cockfosters. - I feel like a five-year-old every time I go on that line. I can't remember what line it is. - It's the Piccadilly line. - Piccadilly line, like the dark blue line. Every time I'm on it, and because I haven't lived in London for like,

like a few years, every time I go on there and I hear it, I just have to laugh. - Bust a little smirk. - You're like, I completely forgot. - To be fair, Cockfield is fucking hilarious. - There's so many that are just like swear words. I don't know how this is like a thing.

- How did we get this? How did this happen? - We just like in Australia, we just, we don't have anything like that. It's kind of sad. We just have a lot of like- - It's 'cause you're new. - Yeah, honestly. And like a lot of the names are just named after like indigenous names. So they sound funny, but they're not like cock-fiend. - I was, I remember talking to you about this. I was like, why is there a New South Wales? Like South Wales was never good to begin with. Why are we making another one?

- I don't know. - Maybe start up from the ground up, make a good one. - Honestly, I don't know. The only funny named place in Australia that I know is Banana.

- Is this a town in Queensland called Banana? And it has this thing called the Big Banana, which is the Guinness World Record for the largest banana statue in the world. - Why? - Did they just name a town after that one statue? - Oh no, it's because also like every banana in Australia grows in Banana, Queensland. - That probably makes more sense. - You probably should have led with that before you told us that it was. I have no idea why it's called Banana, but they just grow a lot of bananas. It's weird, right? - It's the only place they grow bananas. Oh, okay, well.

- That makes a lot of like, now that you've explained the context, that makes a lot more sense. - Yeah, exactly. So we just have stuff like that, but like, I wish I fucking lived in a place called Cuckfield. That'd be hilarious. That'd be the best. That would be the best fucking like conversation. - I feel like it would grow tired after a while. - Yeah, but it's like, where are you from? Cuckfield. And you immediately get a laugh. It's like, I've already blended in with the conversation. - You just gotta tell them in Japan when they're like, "Sundee imasu ka?" And you're just like, "No, no, no, "shushin imasu ka?" - "Sunde imasu ka?" - Oh yeah, "sunde" is like where you live now, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Getting back to- - Isekai. - Japanese nightlife. - How do we go from Isekai to Cockfield? - Wales, Wales. - To me, Isekai is like my number one kind of drinking establishment that I enjoy throughout the world. Anywhere. - It's the easiest, it's the chillest. - It's the chillest. - It's always nice. All foreigners love it 'cause it's so easy. You press the little button. Sometimes it's all you can drink. - 'Cause you don't have to order at the bar

- Never have to order at the bar. - Never order at the bar. - I will say that is 100 times better than the UK. - Order all your food and drinks from a tablet. There's no pressure to get order at the bar and they just bring it to you. - There is one of my favorite izakayas I go to a lot with my other friends is, it's one in Ikebukuro.

I don't know what it's called anymore. It used to be called Kobayashi's. I think I took you guys there. I don't remember. But basically it's like, it's on the west side of Ikebukuro and it's underground and like, it's exactly like in Izakaya. So it has like food and everything, but you pour your own drinks.

- Oh yeah, I think I've been to that one as well. - And there's like a huge like tub. Like it's like a fucking barrel full of misoshiru, like miso soup. And it's just all you can drink miso soup as well. It's the best fucking thing ever. 'Cause it's just like, 'cause miso soup is like the ultimate hangover drink.

in my opinion. - Yeah. - 'Cause like another thing I wanna talk about when it comes to Japanese drinking culture is nomihodai. - Oh yeah. - Which is- - All you can drink. - All you can drink, which anytime someone from England or like America or someone comes here and they,

see how many, like they learn about the all you can drink culture here. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like, boys, I'm moving here. I'm coming out every nine. - Every Australian I've taken to a normie holiday has always either been like, so is there like a drink limit? Or they're like, oh, it's only for like 10 minutes, right? Like it's like happy hour, right? It's like, no, you can do it for as long as you want. They're just like,

- How much is like a typical Nomihodai? - 1500 for 30 minutes, is it? No, no, no. - It's cheaper than that. - It depends which one you go. Either it's like- - I've seen like 2000 yen for two hours. - Yeah, I think it's about, so it's about 20 bucks for two hours of all you can drink. - It depends where you go. But generally it's around that price. - Yeah, around that price. And compared to like everywhere you see in England and everything, that's like a massively good deal.

- Exactly, it's like, why would you not? Like, even if you can't drink that much, right? Why would you not take that? - Even if you'd like, I'm at like a brisk pace. It's still good value for money. - Yeah, 'cause even like, say like, you know, it's like 500 yen for a beer. Even if you drink four beers in the two hours, you're still getting your money's worth. So it's like every time I'm just like, oh, I don't really feel like drinking that much. Let's go to Nomi Hordai tonight. - I remember when,

'Cause obviously when you move here, you kind of like stop wanting all you can drink 'cause you're like, it wears off. But the first few times I visited here, I remember thinking like treating it like an Olympic event. I'm like, all right, how many can I do in the two hours period? - No, 'cause that's what it would be like if there wasn't all you can drink in England. - No, it would be, yeah. That's how we think 'cause that's how we're wired. - You're like 80% speed running, I was like, get the clock ready. - Time.

- I remember I literally had this dilemma. I was like, I was drinking a beer and the first one I smashed it back, no problem. It was easy. Second beer, I was like, "Shit, I'm two seconds off pace." Like I remember, I actually remember being like, "I'm one minute off the pace I set myself." - I was exactly the same. You were like,

- How many beers do I need to drink to make this worth it? And how many can I go over? You're like calculating this in your head to be like, okay, if I drink one beer every five to 10 minutes, then I can smash this many beers and I'd be like earning back this amount of money. You know what I mean? - Yeah. - You're treating it like stocks. - I remember this, I first came here as a tourist. We visited a bar that had 200 yen beers. I thought, okay, that's my new baseline for all you can drink. I need to make sure I get more of my money

I need to make sure it's better value than 200 yen a beer. So I think we went to one that was like 2000 yen for two hours. And I was like, okay, in my head, I'm working it out. I'm like, okay. - That's 10 beers in two hours. - I need to get at least 10 beers. So I was like, all right, I gotta get 11 just to get an under. So I feel like this was worth coming to. And I remember I was in so much fucking pain on like the ninth beer that I got. 'Cause we were eating as well. My stomach was like, oh.

- Because I think it was like eight beers in where I was like, I don't know if I forgot to tell you, but you can get other drinks too. Like it's not, it doesn't have to be just beer. - But I knew that getting all you can drink like spirits was playing with fire. - Oh yeah. - And I would have been like on the floor. So I'm like, nah, I'll stick with beer. 'Cause beer is like the natural pace. - Now I gotta take you guys to the 50 yen beer place because it's not an all you can drink, but it's 50 yen. - I mean it's 50 yen so it might as well be all you can drink. - Yeah, right. - Because I feel like that's just the difference in mindset between anyone from like the West

and people in Japan, right? 'Cause when anyone in the West comes over and hears all you can drink or all you can eat, it's the same mindset where it's just like, I've got to fucking speed run this. I'm gonna optimize this. What is the optimal speed run strats for this all you can drink? And Japanese people are just like,

- No, we just drink however much we feel like. - I just like the pressure of not having to know how much I'm gonna. - Yeah, exactly. - 'Cause I think it works on like the trust system. 'Cause I remember- - We trust you not to be a fucking alcoholic. - That's why this would never work in any other country but like Japan, I feel. Because I remember I went to like,

I went to this kind of like, it wasn't a wine bar. What's like the place that they make wine? What's that called? - Winery. - Winery, that's the place. So I went to this winery with Sydney just outside of Tokyo. And they basically had a cellar of about like

a thousand different wines, right? And basically you could sample as much as you like for 10 bucks. 10 bucks, you had a seller of a thousand wines. - That's gotta be some Willy Wonka test. It's like, if you actually go greedy, you can like get killed. - You're going into the cellar. - You can drink as much of it as you want for 10 bucks? - Okay, so you can sample as much of it. So every-

- Every jazz sample. - The real British people don't sample drinks. - That's exactly the point. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. So me and Sydney went in being like, the exact same mindset where it's like, there must be a catch. There must be a catch. This can't be true. - One of them is poison. - So we go down there and they give us like this little cup, right? It's like this super small cup where you can pour like, I'd say a third of a glass of wine into it. And these Japanese people were just pouring like one little drop.

like two little drops in there. Just like letting the drop like sit in their tongue. And then we were just like, but we can draw, we can pour however much we want, right? So we in Sydney, like, 'cause that's the thing. It's based on the trust system. - Yeah, yeah.

- You know, if you want to, but if you want to, you can just pour however much you want for as many wines as you want and no one's going to stop you, right? - There's something similar to that that I saw in, oh fuck, where was it? I think it was in Nagano when I went for a trip. It was like a sponsored trip and at the station, because Nagano is kind of known for its sake, there was exactly the same thing. It was like,

50 to like a hundred like barrels of all sorts of different sake. And it's like, yeah, again, like- - I'll have one of everything. - Yeah, it was like a thousand yen for like all you can test. - All you can test. - It's not all you can drink, it's all you can test. - Yeah, yeah. - All you can sample. And I'm just like,

- Hell yeah. - But there's nothing stopping you from sampling as much as you like, right? - Oh yeah, I was like 20 in and I was like, I'm only a fifth of the way through this and I'm about to fucking faint. - Like imagine if you can ask for a free sample, but there's no one stopping you from asking for unlimited free samples. You get unlimited free samples. That's basically the mindset.

- So like we're here as a Westerner thinking we got the fucking cheat code to this. - Yeah. - So we can just- - It's like bottomless fries, but if you can go up and get your own fries, right? - It's like having a buff in this country. It's like being British with the alcohol. It's like, oh shit. - Yeah.

- What's like another establishment that's like very specific to like Japanese nightlife? 'Cause I like to think that like the karaoke nightlife. - I mean, karaoke nightlife here has just got it done. Like it's the perfect kind of place for karaoke. - Because I didn't realize until recently, but like the karaoke in Japan is so much different to the perception of karaoke in Western countries. 'Cause I remember when,

Yumi and Felix, when we took Felix to a karaoke for the first time, he didn't wanna go. He was kind of like, "Oh, karaoke." - Sounds cringe. - It sounds cringe because I think in his mind, his idea of karaoke is an open bar karaoke, which I think a lot of people think. - I think a lot of people think, 'cause in Japan, I feel like,

after the izakaya, or after going to a pub in England, the precedence is after the pub, you basically go clubbing. There's no other place to go. But in Japan- - Or go home and watch anime. - Yeah, exactly. But in Japan, you can just go to karaoke and just continue the sesh there.

- Just hang out with your mates and sing a bunch of songs as well. - And it's all you can drink in karaoke as well. - And again, it's all you can drink. Everywhere you go in Japan, you can get all you can drink. It's fucking great. - It's all you can drink and the karaoke establishment is open 24 hours. - Yeah. - Which is just like a power move. - Although I swear like whichever brand is offering, 'cause not all of them do all you can drink and some of them do it for like way more expensive than others. - Oh yeah. - And I never know which fucking one it is. So I just walk in and I'm like, please be the cheaper.

- Yeah, that's the thing though. Like you have to kind of go around to each brand of karaoke chain and kind of be like, okay, this is the cheapest one for all you can drink. This is the most expensive one for all you can drink. So you have to kind of be like, okay, do I take this?

- Like value over price or price over value? - Yeah. - Right, because you know that if you go to the cheap ones, the food is probably gonna be like not that great. - 'Cause like I've never like my entire life, I've never really enjoyed karaoke until I experienced karaoke in Japan. - Right. - 'Cause it's not only like having

having a private room. So to explain Japanese karaoke, you have this private room where you can just sing as many songs as you like that you choose. There's no one watching you apart from your own mates and you can just have fun and sing whatever the hell you want. - Especially just karaoke at home, right? - They also have like every single like Western song. - Yeah, yeah. So like they have a selection that is like

that eclipses everywhere else I've been to. They have like English songs, Chinese songs, Korean songs, and obviously Japanese songs. - Anime songs, they got a lot of anime songs. - I was about to say, man, singing anime songs while you're plastered as a weeb, that was like, I remember my first experience was with Joey and it was like one of the funnest experience ever.

It's like seeing that list of all the anime songs. It's like opening Pandora's box. You're like, man, which one do I sing? It's like, and then the moment he selected fucking tell me why by the pen pals, I was just like, yeah, okay. The original, the original,

- Berserk movie. - With the shittiest guitar riff in existence. I'm like, yeah, hell yeah. Like it's already bad in the original, but then the karaoke version is like, oh, this is so much worse, but it's so much better. - And then blasted at 3:00 AM, we fucking destroyed that song more than it already destroyed itself.

- It's like once was enough and we're like, let's do it again. - Oh my God. - I fucking miss karaoke, man. Ever since the Rona, we haven't really been able to go out to it. - No, they were shut down for a while. - I think it's back open though, right? - Yeah, it is now. - From what I understand, yeah. - It's hard to get in that mood, you know? - Yeah, I know, I know. 'Cause like, I don't know, like,

I feel now that we've all kind of been established here, it's like become a little bit more difficult to just be like, "Hey, do you wanna stay up till like 4:00 AM to go to karaoke?" - Maybe 'cause I go to bed at like 12 now, I think I get really fucking tired early. - My sleep schedule is a lot healthier now. Okay, to explain another thing about Japanese drinking culture is that you have this ticking clock and it's called the last train.

And if you miss the last train, you're staying out until 5:00 AM. There's basically no in between. Either you choose to go home at like what? Like 11:12? - 11:12 each year. - 11:30, which to me is like, if it was just one hour later or like two hours later, it would be perfect. 'Cause after about one o'clock I'd be like, okay, I've had my fun. This has been cool. I'm gonna catch the last train now. But like having to choose between going out at,

like 11:30 when you were just about getting to that point of drunkness that you just want to keep going to staying up till 5:00 AM, which we've done it several times. And every time I just feel more dead inside. - There is nothing worse. I think the only thing that is worse than going home while you're buzzed at 11:00 PM is catching that first train at 4:30, just like fucking like.

- It's like sunny outside and then like there's businessmen next to you and you're clearly a fucking mess. - You just turned into a fucking vampire. - The sun, no. - I fucking fell asleep one time and missed my stop by like an hour.

I woke up at like 6:00 AM, like so fucking north of Tokyo. - Like the end of the line, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like an hour from, like I think I was like an hour and a half from Tokyo. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's how far I'd gone. And I had to like get back and I was so fucking done. It was like 6:30 AM when I realized and I was like, no! So I wanted to sleep. - Yeah. I mean, that's the tough thing, man. I mean, that's the thing, like,

Back when I was like still single and like kind of going out and doing a lot more of like the 4:00 AM, 5:00 AM stuff, it would be a little bit easier because you know, say like a couple of my friends would be like, it'd be like, you know, 1:00 or 2:00 AM. I'd be like, ah, maybe we shouldn't continue anymore. It was really easy because you could just go to a manga cafe and just book a fucking room for like two, three hours and just fucking sleep in there until the first train. And that shit's like, but we haven't done that.

we should do that more often. Instead of just being like, let's call up a taxi and spend a hundred bucks to get home. - I've always known that you can do the manga cafes. I just don't wanna have that conversation at 3:00 AM smashed to some Japanese dude. I'm like, "Jikon, Jikon."

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hi, hi, hi. - You should just be like, "Sleep, two hours, let me in." To the monkey brain and they'll be like, "Okay, we get it, we understand." - Maybe, maybe. Every single time I've just been like, "I'll just wait till 5:00 AM, I'll just." - Yeah, we should just do that from now on. If we're having like a boys' night, we just be like, "I don't want it." 'Cause sometimes,

I don't want to spend a hundred bucks to fucking go home. - If we're all going back the same way, it's like we split it three ways. - I mean, yeah, I guess. But still, it's like, you still feel like shit going on. - It hurts me. This is my side. - Wait, what? - What happened? - I don't know why my, what is this clown juice doing to me? - The clownness is getting to you. - Fuck, it's fighting my monkeyness.

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- Fucking hell, Joey. - Oh, it's hidden, it's hidden. - So on top of the all you can drink, sometimes they have like other stuff that you can have, like drink and eat. They'll have soft drinks, but they might have like soup sometimes. - What? - Yeah, they have soup. - And ice cream as well. - Oh, I know the ice cream. - Do you remember that fucking time when you guys were like, "Connor, stop eating so much fucking ice cream."

- They had like two fucking buckets of ice cream. - So they had like small tiny cups, like bowls for this ice cream. And I was like, no, I'll take one of the big Coke glasses and just fucking pour all the ice cream in there. Must've refilled it like three or four times. - There's so much ice cream. - But I was just sitting there the whole time at karaoke sitting there just,

- I'm good, you go next. - I remember when I saw like the ice cream machine next to like the soft drink machine. - Who the fuck would get that? - I remember thinking like, we don't need that, we need alcohol. And then like two hours later, fucking plastered. I'm like,

- Coke float, Coke float. That sounds amazing right now. - That ice cream looks so good right now. - It is like pretty garbage vanilla ice cream. But when you're like that drunk, it's like, I'm game. I'll put anything in my body at that point. Yo, okay, you know what else I like in Japan? It just goes along with the nightlife. It's the Yukon drinks.

- Do you wanna explain that you can't drink because that- - So I should have bought one in preparation if I knew we can talk about this. But there's these tiny little things like 200 milliliter cans. - It's like that big. - It's like a medicine bottle. - Yeah, yeah. It tastes like bubble gum and it's apparently like ginger. - It doesn't taste like bubble gum, I think it tastes like ass. - I think it tastes- - I think it tastes great. - Turmeric. - Turmeric. - It's like ginger. - Thank you, Meilyne. But yeah, it tastes like...

- I like the taste. - Felix liked the taste. - Yeah, but Felix is fucking weird. - It reminds me of cow pole. That's why I like the taste. - So essentially what this drink is advertised as is prevents hangovers. And everyone in the Western world is like, that doesn't seem right. - That looks like a scam. - When I first saw it, I was like, I'm pretty sure if it worked,

- That was my thought as well. Like how, if it really works, why has England not used it before? - Don't you think the entire budget of the NHS would be spent on buying this because then all of the medical problems would be solved. Like I'm pretty sure we would have it, right? That's what I thought. And then one day on a whim, I was like, all right,

- I'll try it. And then it was like having a shield on your liver to like none of the drinks got me drunk. And it was like that for the first few times until I really drank way too much. And then it was like, not drunk, not drunk, not drunk, absolutely unable to sleep. Like not, it's so weird. - It was just like the 2020 economy. It's just like the coronavirus tank and then you're fucking drunk.

- I was fucking drunk in like an instant. - Because I never tried it until I tried it with you. Because every time I saw it, I was like, no, maybe that'll work for like one drink. I don't go to a Nizakai and have one drink. So I'm like, no, this won't work for me. But then yeah, I had it.

and it tastes like ass, so I'm like, great, this is already a good start. And then, yeah, I think I was like four or five drinks in. - You don't feel anything. - And I'm just like, oh my God. - It's weird. - The immunity. - So like it's advertised as like you don't have a hangover, but really I think you, it's like Full Metal Alchemist, it's like law of equivalent exchange, right? - Okay, okay, okay. - I know what I'm talking about. - So you drink it and you lose your fucking mother.

- You drink it and you get less drunk when you drink it. So you have to drink more to get drunk. But the day after, like if you completely destroy your body, I feel like it doesn't help the hangover. - If you go too hard, it doesn't help. But you know those times where maybe you've had like quite a bit, you're quite tipsy. You're not like absolutely shit faced. It like completely stops any hangovers. - Yeah, it completely stops any hangover. But for me, it stops that.

tipsy feeling as well. - Yeah, in my mind, when it comes to like whether it gets rid of the hangover the next morning, I feel like a lot of it is just placebo. Where it's just like, if I drink this, it'll probably stop it. - I definitely feel an effect. - Yeah, because the hangovers, the worst hangovers I've had in Japan is when I haven't drank that. - Right, right. - So now I pretty much like, you'll never see me go like drinking without drinking it now.

Which I don't know if it's a good thing or not. Like is my body gonna get dependent on it to drink? Is that a thing? - I always drink it when I know I have something to do the next day. - It's not bad for you by the way. It's literally just like turmeric I think or ginger. - If anything it's very healthy. - It's just a bunch of like fucking minerals and shit. I don't fucking know.

Look at me a monkey brain, like I know what's in it. I don't question this shit. - Just look it up and you'll find it. But yeah, from what I understand, it's very healthy. It's like a health drink. - Someone's gonna come up and be like, actually? - Actually it destroys your liver. It's like, well, as if the alcohol doesn't already destroy the liver. - Hidden health benefits, hidden health benefits, of course. - Oh my God. - How do you boys feel about clubbing? 'Cause I've not been to a club in Japan before. - Have you been to a club in Japan?

- Yeah, I've been to a few, but I've never enjoyed clubbing. Even back in Australia, it was just never really a thing. I like bars, but I don't like clubs. - I really like bars, but I don't like club. I feel like, okay, here's my theory. I feel like clubbing is this place that everyone's convinced themselves they enjoy when they really don't enjoy.

- Clubbing is one massive lie. I don't know anyone who actually enjoys clubbing. 'Cause the only time you enjoy clubbing is if you're massively plastered. - If you actually enjoy clubbing, you're someone I don't wanna talk to. - The people I know who enjoy clubbing are normally the ones who I just don't like hanging out with. I'm like, yeah, I know I'm not gonna like you. - They're like the epitome of, oh my God. They always talk like that. - It's like clubbing is great when you're young, I guess, but then you reach a certain point, like a few years pass, and then you realize, man,

I never really enjoyed clubbing, isn't it? I was just lying to myself. All I do when I go to a club is go in, see the dance floor, order a drink, go dancing for like five minutes, realize I'm still too sober, go order another drink. And then that cycle repeats until you're fucking drunk enough to not remember the night. And if you do remember the night, it's a shit night. - And it hurts 'cause like you gotta pay entry fee and then you gotta pay like double the price for a drink. So if you're not drunk enough, it's like,

"Fuck, not only am I having a shit time, "my wallet is taking a financial beating." - Clubs are fast, man. They're a lie. - I'll tell you the only times clubbing is fun, but can I tell the story about the last time we went clubbing together? - Sure, sure, go ahead. - Okay, I gotta hear this. - I feel like the only time clubbing is actually fun

is when the night isn't planned. When you don't plan to go to a club, I feel like the spontaneous clubbing nights are the best 'cause you're already really drunk and in the mood when you just suddenly decide to go to a club. So the last time I've actually went clubbing was like over a year ago with, and it was with Connor and two of my mates, right? And it was just a spontaneous kind of clubbing nights where we didn't even plan to go clubbing, we just wanted to go hit up some bars.

And then we got massively- - I think we were just sitting at your house and we were just gonna do that. And then I think someone brought it up and we were like, "What happened?"

- I think we were sitting in the house and we were just gonna have like a chilled night. - We were telling stories about clubbing. We were telling stories about clubbing and I think eventually we were like, should we just go clubbing? - Yeah, 'cause I remember we hit up a bar beforehand and we were pretty merry at that point. We weren't super drunk. And then we got to the bar, I think it was like absolute vodka in Brighton or something. And we just ordered like three of those 14 shot trays.

And we got drunk very, very fast. But the person who got drunk the most was this guy. - I think I had like one of the whole like 14 shots to myself. And like, bear in mind, I think I was just, at the time I just like broke up with my ex and I was like, I just wanna go out. I just wanna do something. I wanna get out of here. - It happens man. - I was like, I just wanna party. And then I went way too overboard. - So what was the last memory you had of that night?

I remember waiting in line for the club. Alcohol abuse is bad by the way. - We don't condone this. This is a story not condoning. - We're laughing about it, but we don't condone it. - Rarely do I get that drunk where I don't remember exactly what happened, which is when I speak to Americans like that sounds scary. I'm like, yeah.

- I mean, I'm around my mates, you know, they'll take care of me. - So after the bar, we clearly realized how drunk Connor was, but it was still like pretty early in the night. It was like 10 o'clock, 10:30. The club had just opened. That's kind of the timing we're talking about. We were like, okay, before the alcohol hits Connor anymore, we gotta fucking get in this club as soon as possible. So we line up just as the club was opening. - Nevermind, it's like a fucking Wednesday or something.

- Yeah, yeah. - No one was clubbing, no one. It was like just us. - We were worried about how Connor was gonna get in 'cause he was clearly over the fucking limit. And if you know UK clubs, if you look like you're too drunk, they're just not gonna let you win. Bouncers in UK are like the school bully. They will take advantage of any power they have. So we were fucking worried. So somehow Connor, we managed to get Connor in this club. - This is the best heist movie. - Yeah. So we managed to get Connor in and we're like,

- This is it, we've done it. - The Mission Impossible theme. - We've done Mission Impossible. Yeah, yeah. So then we go over to the bar, as you do in the clubbing experience, the first thing you go to is the bar. - Of course. - And then we go to order our drinks. And so I'm here with two of my mates and we each order a drink and then we look around

and Connor's just not there. We're like, wait, if you're not with Connor and you're not with Connor and I'm not with Connor, then where the fuck's Connor? And then we turn around and look at this empty dance floor, right? And Connor is just standing there at a 90 degree angle. He's like this. And then we're like, oh shit, we better get him off the dance floor. And then as we're walking over,

he starts fucking Fortnite dancing by himself on the dance floor. - You know what you gotta do, you gotta do it. - And so the bouncer sees this and obviously Connor's like way over the limit. So he gets kicked out. And so we also have to follow him out of the club. So we're like, do we attempt another club? It's only like 10:30. Let's try and attempt another club.

thinking we're not gonna get in. Somehow Connor by pure instinct, he's like, he can't even walk to this next club. But as soon as he's standing in line, he's like, "Yes, gentlemen." - I don't know why when I'm drunk for some reason, I can just like for like 30 seconds, I can be like,

- Yes, of course. Like I don't know why, like it's super power. - Yeah, like when he's in front of the bouncer, he just turns into like proper sea dog VA. - The monkey brain unlocks into human brain. So then we somehow get him into the second club and the same fucking thing happens again. We go to the bar and then we take our eyes off Connor for one second,

and order a drink, I look around, look to my left, look to my right, "If you're not with Connor, if you're not with Connor." And then we turn around and once again, Connor on an empty dance floor is just Fortnite dancing by himself. - Is that just like an instinct for you to do? - I think so, I think it must be an instinct. I like dancing, I don't know why. Fortnite dancing must be my go-to, I don't know.

And so we get kicked out of that club and that was the end of the night. - Oh my God. - It was a good night, it was a good night. - It was a good night, yeah. He woke up. - Don't get that drunk. - Yeah, we got him back home. I took him on the bed and he just started snuggling inside the saggery pillow. And that's what he woke up with. - Of course. All the instincts are getting unlocked. - Yeah, I woke up and I was like, where is my phone and wallet? Where is it? And then it was just under the bed. But I was like, that was like the first five minute panic of my, I was like, where is it?

- Oh my God. So you don't remember any of that? - I remember some of it, but not much. I mean, that was pretty the most drunk I've gotten in a very long time. I rarely ever get that drunk. But you know, sometimes you fuck up and do a lot of vodka. - It happens, man. - 'Cause like you've been clubbing in Japan, right? - Yeah, I have. - What's that like? How is it compared to the rest of the world? - It's just like, at least compared to the UK, in the UK I feel like everyone in the club is very drunk. And in Japan I felt like everyone was in the same situation of,

I need to be drunker, which makes a really shitty club environment 'cause everyone's kind of sober and it's weird. - No one wants to like step out of line. - Yeah, it's weird. Like no one's doing anything fun except like for somehow everyone is really well behaved

And somehow the moment you step into the toilet, it was like a war zone in that toilet. I don't know what happened. There was a dude who was like pissing and he was not even aiming in the urinal. He was aiming at the wall next to it and it was spraying. And I remember walked in and I'm like, I'm not getting blamed for this. I'm walking in. 'Cause I know this guy was Japanese. I'm like, I'm not fucking with it. I don't wanna be blamed for this.

I'm not doing it. - I'm the minority in this club. - I'm like, I'm the foreigner here. I'm not getting blamed. I'm walking out right now. But yeah, no, it was so filthy, but the rest of the club was just like fine. It was whatever. It was just a depressing situation. I'd rather have been smashed Fortnite dancing alone.

any day of the week. - Yeah, that's kind of a similar experience I had. I went to one club in Japan and that was enough for me to be like, yeah. I mean, I never really enjoyed clubs, but I was like, you know what? I'm living here. I might as well give it a go. It just wasn't it. - I felt like everyone was doing it 'cause they've seen it in the movies there. I don't know why. Everyone's like, this is cool, right?

- We've seen this in the movies. - This is exactly how we're supposed to behave. - 'Cause I think the most different clubbing experience I've had is probably in Thailand, but they have like, I like their clubbing culture even less, right? Because they don't even have a dance floor. So some clubs in Thailand, you go in and there's no dance floor, but everyone has their own tables.

but the music is just as loud as any other club. So try and say, so you're sitting around- - It's like a loud restaurant. - This is a loud bar. So you're sitting, everyone has these private tables. So you can't even like, it's not a social environment where you can go meet other people or even like,

interact with other people. You're with your mates, but it's so loud that you can't communicate with your mates. So what you're doing is sitting in this loud fucking room. I must sound like such an old guy now. The music was too loud. This was awful, but no. - No, to be fair, when the music is too loud, it's like my biggest pet peeve. I'm just like, I can't hate this. - I've been in some clubs in Australia where the bass is so fucking bass boosted that you can actually feel your chest going like this while you're sitting there. It's like, hey!

- My voice is so bassy as well, that in clubs, I could just cannot communicate. - It just gets drowned out. - I remember like university, if I ever tried to hit on someone, they'd just be like, "What are you saying?" - Do you have that thing where you're trying to say something to your mate, but it's so loud, or your mate's trying to say something to you, and it just sounds like, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." And you're like, "Sorry, can you say that again?" You do it like three times as the magic number, and then the third time you're like, "Oh yeah, yeah, definitely."

- Definitely. - I'll be like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Whatever they say. - That's just, yeah, that's just the clubbing experience, I guess. - I mean, we personally don't recommend clubs in Japan, but I mean, if that's your shtick, that's your shtick. - But we don't, I think we've made it clear that we don't really like clubbing anyway, so we're probably not gonna enjoy clubbing in Japan. - The reason I like izakaya is that it's the perfect social environment because I like talking to people. I like house parties. I like house parties a lot. And I've always,

- In university, if there was a choice between a clubbing, going clubbing and going to a house party, I'm like 100% of the time, I'm choosing the house party. 'Cause I like talking to people and I feel like the Izakaya vibe is just that perfect vibe that just like allows you to talk to your mates. - There's also that element of a house party. It's like, are they gonna fuck up their own house? If so, I wanna be there to watch this. - What's like the craziest house party you guys have been to? - Okay.

- I've got like two and they were both in university. 'Cause of course they were. - Yeah, of course they were. - Do you have one? - I mean, I can only really think of like- - I have one if you want me to go first. - There's a lot of like poop stories, but I'm like- - More poop? - Yeah. - No! - This is where the poop stories are coming out. - All of my poop stories come from house parties. - What?

- Like, okay, so in Australia, oh my God. Now that I think about it, this was fucking disgusting, but. - Oh no. - Oh no. - But do you know what a shoeie is? - That's where you do the beer out of the shoe. - Yeah, so it's this thing that's very typical in Australia because there's nothing else to fucking do. - Why is this typical in Australia?

- The local cuisine. - The local cuisine, the shoeie. But essentially what it is, is you, it's kind of like shotgunning in America, right? Where shotgunning is like, you know, if someone's holding a can of beer, they're like, oh, shotgun it. So you poke a hole on the side and then you kind of drink the whole thing like this. Shoeie is that, but way grosser. You say, hey, do a shoeie. And then you go around, the tradition is you go around and find whoever has the dirtiest fucking shoe.

- It's not just any shoe, it's whoever has the dirty shoe. It's either you do your own shoe or you pick whoever's the dirty shoe. - This is already starting horribly. - And then you grab their shoe, you pour the can of beer into their shoe and then you drink the beer from their shoe. And that's a shoeie. - That's disgusting. - And I mean, it's not that exciting of a story, but my friend did a shoeie once and he got his friend's shoe and he didn't realize until after he finished the shoeie that he had stepped on his dog's shit.

- So he had like a firm grasp. - He had a firm grasp of it and he finished it. And he's like,

- He flipped it over and just saw like shit. Just smeared on the shirt. - That's so disgusting. - And like normal people will be like, "Oh, what the fuck?" But because he was already so ham and he's just like, "Yeah." And everyone was like, "Yeah." It was fucking nasty. That's the only thing really. And then other than that, it's just like a lot of like vomit stories, you know, the usual that you hear at house parties. I mean, yeah, that was probably the grossest, but also the most hilarious. - Oh my God.

- I mean, I've been to like a few crazy house parties. I think most of the crazy house parties I've been to has been in Brighton. So that's like my hometown. There are some parties that are just like, kind of like, you know that scene from American Pie where you see that scene and you're like, there's no way that exists in real life. There's no way this crazy shit's happening. But yeah, I've been to a few parties where it was actually that crazy. So I remember one time where there was this,

- There was this party who we'd heard from a friend who heard from another friend who heard from another friend. That kind of thing. - Sounds like a beating to a horror story. - That there was a party happening in the middle of this field. I'm just like, there's no fucking way this is true. So we had to drive into the middle of fucking nowhere. And I was like, this is a scam. We're gonna drive there and there's just gonna be like,

it's just gonna be like a drug dealer den or something. Or this is gonna be like, we're gonna get fucking murdered. And so we drive to the middle of this field and this, keep in mind, this is all pitch black 'cause it's like the middle of the countryside where we were driving to. So we couldn't see shit. And then we go there and it was basically like a festival. Somehow they had managed to, because this guy who had owned the farm, right, had just told a few of his mates that he was gonna have a party.

And then mates started telling mates and then- - That's always the worst. - Yeah, I don't know how it spreads so wide, right? - Jesus. - But I feel like it's because no one else was having a party that weekend and people were just egging, like people were just really wanted to go somewhere. - I'm just going for a party here, lads. I need to do a party. - And yeah, somehow there was a fucking festival and then things started getting weird. They started setting things on fire, right? So they went into his house, right?

And then they took out the sofa and somebody thought it would be a fun idea to just start burning stuff. So it started off- - Why is there always one person in this? - I don't know, there's always one fucking pyromaniac, right?

And so first it starts with a chair. So they get a chair out. I'm like, okay, let's set this on fire. And it's like fucking caveman mode activates. Whenever you start a fire, for some reason, like you see fire and then you're like, oh, oh, fire. And then like you start fucking dancing around it like, oh.

- Oh, fire. I don't know why, whenever there's a fire in a house party and there's alcohol involved, you just forget, the lizard brain just takes over and you just like circle it and just watch it. And then so they burn the chair down and they were like, "What can we do next?"

What can we do next? Let's get a table. So out of nowhere- - They'll just take this guy's whole fucking Ikea collection, like Jesus Christ. - So then they take a table, they set that on fire, then as that's on fire, a fucking sofa appears out of nowhere. And then they fucking just chuck the sofa in. And then we were just like,

- At the back of my mind, I'm thinking, man, the host must feel so fucking shit. Like, I don't know where he is, probably plastered out his mind. - All my furniture is getting burned. - And then as the sofa is on fire, we actually see the host just walk out and he just looks at his sofa and like his fucking Ikea furniture collection that's on fire and just goes,

- What if, right? What if all along he planned this out, right? Because in the UK, if you want to get rid of stuff like that, you gotta pay a lot. So maybe this was all a ploy just so he could get new sofas and chairs and not pay to remove his old ones. - There's always also that one guy in any kind of situation like that where something's put on fire, where they're like holding an alcoholic beverage and they're like, "I wonder what happens if I pour it on?"

- It's like, this will probably put it out, right? It just makes the flame bigger. It's like, oh, I wasn't expecting that. Okay. Every time, every fucking time. - Animals, animals. - Yeah, fucking caveman. - There was a, so you know how I said I lived in like a student village? - Yeah. - It was basically a whole area that was just houses. And they had also two really big like apartment

And they were disgusting. They were like the cheapest apartment blocks you can imagine. And one time people, this doesn't exist anymore, this place, they tore it all down. So yeah, Swansea Student Village, RIP. They said like, "Oh yeah, there's gonna be a party at one of the apartment buildings." They didn't say which floor or anything. So I thought that was kind of weird. And then we turn up and like half of this apartment building, there's like bin bags.

on all the windows and stuff. And then you start going into this building and it's like been turned into like the set of the raid. Like there's just shit everywhere. Like there's mattresses on the floor and shit, like all over the place. And some of the rooms are open and have like nothing left in them. And I'm like,

And meanwhile, everyone is like drunk as fuck. There's like people doing drugs in certain places. People in the kitchen. There's always that one guy who's in the kitchen making food for some reason for all these parties. Like this building is literally like falling apart and one guy's still in there. - I want a pizza pocket. - Yeah, you want any beans? Any beans for anyone? It was just weird. And it was like,

The further up you went, the more mess it was. And I remember going to one floor and there was just like beds all over it and people lying down. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? That was just weird. And then I just didn't enjoy it. 'Cause I'm like, what is this? - Wait, wait, wait. So what was the, was it like an orgy floor or what? - I didn't stay long enough. - How did you get invited to this party?

- It was one of those things where everyone knew it was happening in the village apparently. So we all just turned up. - In the village. - Word around the village, it's like this building. - And I was like, why did you put a, I remember I asked one of the guys, why they put bin bags on the windows? And they were like, oh, so they can't see what's going on inside.

Who can't see? Because I think putting black window, like blacking out all the windows is suspicious. - Just giving it away, right? - Yeah, that's what I thought. And also a bunch of people migrating towards this one thing. They completely fucked it though. I don't know what happened to it or how this was even possible. I'm sure one of my university. - I mean, the fact that it's gone now is what we're telling you, right? - Yeah, true, true, true. And then there was another party, which is really weird. And it was a house party, like just normal house. And it had a bouncer, which I thought was really weird when I went in. - At a house. - At a house party.

- It was fucking loaded. - Right, right, right. So it was a three story house, not that big, but I thought, wow, this is fucking weird. There's a bouncing, you know, the list. And I said, my name's like, you're on the list. And I'm like, when do I get put on the list? - What is this list? - I was like, who's arranging this list? 'Cause my friend invited me. So he must have put me on the list. And then I got inside.

The first floor just is like a big living room, just has one small couch in the corner and like a hundred people just standing around this like very average looking laminated like wood floor, just people just standing around.

"Why is there a bouncer?" And then you go up the floors and it starts to get weird. - Yeah. - As of course it does whenever you go up floors in these weird house parties. I remember I asked my friend, he was like, "Oh yeah, I paid the bouncer like 300 pounds just for tonight." And I'm like, "Why?" - Why? - What were you expecting to happen? - Are you that worried? And then, okay, to be fair, and then I realized why he was that worried because the second floor was just people having sex.

- Of course. - That's actually pretty standard. - That's pretty standard. That's pretty standard. I was like, whatever. And I was like, okay, maybe I'm gonna chill. 'Cause the bottom floor was just really loud. And I was like, maybe I wanna go to the floor where people are just chatting. So I go to the third floor and that's where it gets really fucking weird. 'Cause one of the rooms is like,

What I thought it was, was like five beds, two bunk beds. And instead they just put all the mattresses on the floor. I don't know why people are doing this. All the mattresses were on the floor and like people were making out. And one of them had like, was doing like a needle. I don't know what he was doing. And I was like, oh, this is weird. This is really fucking weird. I'm not going here. And so I was like, I asked my friend, I'm like, there's gotta be somewhere else we can go. I do not wanna stay here. There is someone doing what I think is heroin

Can we not do this? University is a mess. - Jesus Christ, I've never had any like that. 'Cause I hung out with good Christian boys. - Well, no, so do I. But sometimes you go to a party, right? 'Cause you hear about a party, right? You don't know what it's gonna be like till you get there. Until you see someone doing like hardcore drugs upstairs and you're like, I'm not supposed to be here.

I don't do this. - I need to go to church. - With the house parties, the more stairs you go up, it's like the closer you get to hell. It's like the steps towards hell. - It's literally the rate. - It's like the opposite, right? It's like the further up you go, the closer you get to hell. - It's awful 'cause I mean, you have no way of knowing in the UK what the party's gonna be like until you get there. If your friend's like dead set on going, you're like, all right, fine. - 'Cause I've been to as many like dud parties where you go to and it's like, this isn't a party, this is a house gathering.

- Yeah. - With like prettied up, with prettied up alcohol. - Right, right, you never know. A party could mean like a come dine with me, four people making dinner for each other experience. Or it could be, you know, a fucking orgy going on upstairs. You don't know until you get there. - Jesus Christ. - No one knows. My parents are probably terrified. They're like, what was Connor doing in university? I was not doing anything. Mother, I was just, you happen to go to places.

And they fucked up. - Yeah, it's funny because I had less crazy parties in university, but that might just be because of the university I went to, which was like University of Bristol. And because it's like a city campus, it's like University of Bristol was like in the middle of the city. There was like less going on because it was all like we're integrated with the normal people.

- The normal working people. So you can get away with less shit than if it was on like a campus. - Right, right, right. - Yeah, mine was kind of the same 'cause Sydney Uni was in like the smack bang middle of like the city center in Sydney. So, I mean, there was always weird shit that were happening in like the smaller campuses, but nothing like that. - There was just so many rundown places. So it was like, sometimes I think like locals would like see a party and then just like go in. - Just go in. - Yeah, I think that happened a lot.

- Yeah, that makes sense. - That's why I would never throw a house party that would just let anyone in. - No, no. - I don't know how, bro, talk about the trust system, bro. That's just like the other end of it, like a stupid trust. - Like I remember if you were having a party and you told your close mates, especially in my school, 'cause this was like before I went to university, but like in like college,

if there was a party, everyone in fucking Brighton would know about it somehow. Word would get out and I would not throw a party, especially on a day like New Year's Eve where everyone's searching for a party. - People just rock up. I mean, that's kind of why I just kind of don't go to like open invite house parties anymore. 'Cause like after seeing that, I'm like, that's just too much.

I'm not signing up for that. I don't need that in my life. - Yeah, it's like if I wanted to go to a house party and like four fifths of the people there are people I don't know, I'd rather just go to a club at that point. It's basically, it becomes the same thing, right? - Yeah, like clubs are pretty bad, but at least there's not people doing like,

like fucking hardcore drugs on the dance floor, probably in the toilet, that's them. I don't care. - God, I can't even Fortnite dance. I can't even Fortnite dance without people judging me. - Me in the orgy room, Fortnite dancing. Oh, the mattresses are dance floors, right? They're not a dance, right? My God. But have you guys ever been to the, I know it's a popular like tourist trap, whatever it's considered, but the golden guy in Shinjuku. - Oh yeah, I've been, I've been a few times. - And did you like it?

- No. - No, not your thing? - Not really because- - You wanna explain what Golden Guy is? - Yeah, so Golden Guy is like this, fuck, what is it, like 40 by 40 meters area, if you will. And it's just like a series of alleyways, extremely compact. - It's not even a block. It's like within the block, isn't it? - Yeah, it's tiny and these bars all seat max three to four people, sometimes two, depending on where you go. And it's really expensive. You pay like sometimes like a 10,

just to sit down and then you'll be paid like 10 bucks for a drink. And yeah, it's a tourist trap 'cause a lot of the time it's tourists and also it's a very sketchy area. And if you are a foreigner, there will be a guy who is very much watching you. And the moment they see you're foreign, they'll come up to you. It's really fucking frustrating. - I went in there once just 'cause I wanted to take my friend who had never been. So I was like, okay, I'll experience it. And yeah, I was just like, man, this is just like a really cramped,

super expensive drinking experience that you can get anywhere else in Tokyo. - It's like, if you see pictures of it, which will probably be on screen now, it's kind of like cyberpunk house cloud like. - I love going to Golden Gate just to take photos. - Yeah, it's like that cyberpunk aesthetic where you just got these all, a lot of these buildings and a lot of these bars just like cramped together. And you don't even know how anyone could live in there, let alone operate a business in here. - Yeah, 'cause I can't imagine,

any of these bars getting maybe more than like 10 people a night, right? - It depends. There's one or two of the bars that are decently big, but most of them are, yeah, like very small. - I mean, there's like a few big ones like outside of Golden Guy, like right before you enter it, like near the entrance. But like once you actually go into Golden Guy, it's like, how do any of these places stay open?

- I think you go to Golden Guy to meet other people. You don't go there with your, well, you can go there with your mates. - But you can also meet other people anywhere else in Tokyo. - But there's this kind of vibe to it that's like, because it's so small, you immediately have to talk to anyone who's next to you. You don't really have a choice. In the rest of Tokyo, you kind of go out your way and be like, "Hi, you wanna know about my cult?"

You gotta like really, you gotta- - Let's pray. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta seem like a little weird, right? 'Cause you have, but in this bar, you know, you sit down, you're immediately next to someone and you start trying to communicate. And yeah, the one time I went was 'cause we were staying right next to it, funny enough. And I think it was one night where,

it's my second to last night in Japan, my first time visiting. I think Joey, like Garnt and Alan didn't wanna hang out. And I was like, well, I wanna do something. So I Googled, I'm like, where can I go? And then this was the only place that came up and I was like, fine. I'd never heard of it before. I didn't know it was a tourist trap. So I just went there.

And yeah, it was really fun. I mean, met a ton of people and then eventually made friends with these like Japanese people who took me to some of like the Japanese only bars. And that was really fun 'cause then they were all talking to me asking what my favorite anime was. Knowing the Japanese titles came in very handy that day. - Oh yeah, of course. - Yeah, it's just a lot of fun. I mean, when it works and you go out and you meet people and they're actually cool and it's fun,

- The best thing ever. - I feel like you got quite a lucky experience though, especially in Golden Guy. - I think so. - Yeah, I've heard a lot of like horror stories about Golden Guy. - I think you could easily go there and just have not meet anyone cool and yet be bored, spend a lot of money. - Because I've been to like quite a few like smaller,

bars and establishments that are outside, like just outside of Golden Guy. This is really fucking cool gaming bar that Chris Broad took me to. Like literally across the road from Golden Guy. - One up or zero? - I think it's called one up. - I've been there. - And it's tiny. Like there's just one bar. It can only maybe seat like six people, but like it's like a proper gaming bar. We're not talking about the one that you guys took me to in the UK, right? It's like a legit like gaming bar. And that one was really fucking cool.

way, way cheaper than Golden Gai. But the problem is that those kinds of places don't come up in Google searches, right? It's almost always like, where do you drink in Shinjuku? Golden Gai always comes up. - I noticed there's like a lot of bars in Japan that are fucking tiny and you go in there and it's like, I really liked the vibe 'cause it's like a really intimate vibe 'cause it can only fit like five to six people. And there's only like one bar and you sit at the counter. But I do like that vibe and I don't know how they stay in business 'cause there are so many in Japan.

- And they're so hidden away. - Yeah, they're so hidden away. - Like the cigar bar we went to in Ikebuka, right? It was like, how the fuck would anyone be like, yes, let me go into this tiny building, go all the way up to the sixth floor and there it is right there. It's like, how would you know that that's there? - Yeah. - Right?

It's like, it could be just someone's apartment for all we know. It probably is someone's apartment that they just remodeled. That's kind of like the size we're talking about. Like an apartment in Tokyo. - Yeah, like a one room apartment in Tokyo. - Well, you took me to that bar that was like, it was like an apartment, someone's apartment in an apartment building that had been converted into a ping pong bar. - Oh yeah. - What?

And they served food and everything. It was fucking weird. - So Sydney actually discovered that because she read a manga that I was based on, a manga that had that bar in it and she Googled and that bar actually existed. So it's this ping pong bar that has like this massive ping pong table

- It was like going into someone's living room. It was so weird. - To get there, we had to go down the dodgiest alleyway, right? It was literally this handwritten sign that says, "Ping pong bar, go down this alleyway." And so we go down this alleyway, it's like a dirty, dirty alleyway. - It's like some shit from PT. - Right, right, right. - There could be someone doing heroin around the corner. You had no fucking clue. So we go in there and then we have to go up these stairs and it was just like the stone stairs that someone's probably pissed on, you know? That kind of vibe. And so we go up and then it's just someone's apartment building.

It's just literally someone's apartment. But then they open the door and it's like a proper, they've properly remodeled it into a bar. And I'm thinking, man, how would anyone fucking discover this? 'Cause this is just hidden away down two fucking dodgy alleys that I would not go down. - That's what I'm saying. It's like, there are so many where I'm just like, you wouldn't, if you didn't have a curious mind and you weren't afraid that you might possibly get stabbed down this alleyway. There are so many places where it's just like, you'd never be able to see it.

- I mean, that's why I think Shinjuku is good. Especially if you're a foreigner, 'cause you can, I think a lot of people in Shinjuku are like wanting to meet foreigners and stuff like that or Shibuya. So if you've stayed at those two places, yeah, they're super touristy and everyone knows about them.

I think a lot of places outside of that, you probably won't find people who are super eager to talk to foreigners. - Maybe Ikebukuro. - Maybe Ikebukuro, yeah. - But that's as far as you'll probably go, right? - Yeah, I mean, in Shinjuku, you'll definitely find people who wanna speak to you if you're a foreigner. - And sometimes you go to a bar and the,

people serving you have to have to speak to you as well. - Yeah, that's fun. - Yeah, I like that experience. Like the one place we went to that started playing all of our YouTube videos. So there was this bar that we went to, right? There was this bar that we went to, like a really small intimate bar and

I can't remember who brought up the conversation, but I remember they found out that Sydney was a YouTuber 'cause Sydney was there as well. And she makes the stupid mistake of telling her her YouTube channel. So this bar has like four, like has like about three TVs in it. And so,

- As soon as the bar lady hears her YouTube channel, she just like Chromecast Sydney's fucking Sydney's videos. Sydney's video all over the bar where like other people are also drinking there on this bar. So we're just there watching Sydney's YouTube channel.

And she's just like dying inside. - That's a fucking nightmare, isn't it? That's the one thing you shouldn't do if you have a YouTuber friend is play their videos in front of them. - Oh yeah, exactly. - What is it about that? I've never understood that. - It's just hearing your own voice or you being not like being silly, right? It hurts. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But it's just like, you're okay with you. It's such a weird dilemma 'cause my cousin asked me that same question where she's like, "Okay, so you're all fine with me watching your videos as long as you're not there."

But the moment you're there, you don't want me watching the video. Like, how does that make sense? I'm just like,

- I don't know, I just don't like it. I just don't like it. - I hate myself. - I hate it when I have to rewatch my video to check it. - I'm fine with that. - Are you? - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm just like, man. - I used to not be, and then now I'm like, God, I love this video. God, I love this. - God, I love that guy. - I love this part. Damn it, Connor. Damn, that was a funny joke, Connor. I'm proud of you. - Yeah, I don't mind rewatching back on my video that I'm editing, for example, if I'm the only one in the room. But if someone's standing behind me, micromanaging me and watching, I'll be like, please leave.

I don't want you watching this right now. You can go watch it after it's uploaded when I'm not there. Yeah. I don't get it. It's weird. - Do you remember the time that you accidentally deleted a video while we were out drinking? - Oh my God. - Wait, what? - Do you wanna tell that story? - It was even worse. Because what happened was we were at a friend's house and they were Chromecasting all my fucking videos to the Chromecast. And I don't wanna watch my videos. - This is about 2:00 AM in the night. So we were pretty drunk at this point. - And,

So it was my most recent video and had a sponsor on it. And so here's what happens, right? When you have the YouTube app and someone's Chromecasting and you're also connected, you can like move the video, like skip it, whatever. And it said like, oh, like I could click on the playlist of the cued videos. And it said, I clicked it and my video was on. I was like, I'm gonna turn this off. So I click it and there was no off button. There was only delete video. And I was like, well, delete video from the Chromecast. - Yeah.

So I deleted the video on the spot. Bear in mind, I haven't been paid for the sponsor yet. And it got paid like, and I bloated like two days ago. And then I realized like 10 minutes later, I'm like, I look on my channel, I'm like, "Where's the video going?"

"Wait, did I delete the video?" And then I was just sitting there for like all night sobering up, just thinking like, "I deleted the fucking video. "What am I gonna do? "Maybe they won't notice that I deleted the video." And then on the taxi back with Garnt, I was like,

Garnt, I think I fucked up. What do I do? I deleted the sponsor video. I don't know how I, how do I play this off? - Wait, is this recently? - No, no, this was last year. This was back in England. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - Yeah, ages ago, ages ago. - I remember Connor telling me, he's like, "Yeah, I think I deleted a video." I'm like, "Oh, I mean, so that's not that bad, right? "Just re-upload it." And he's like, "No, I mean, it's a sponsored video "and I haven't been paid for it yet. "And do you think the sponsors will notice?" I'm just like, "Okay."

- That's a pickle that you're in. - Bit of a pickle. - And then like they, I can't remember who, which sponsor it was. I'm pretty sure they probably shouldn't tell anyway 'cause they don't want to know. They emailed me like two days after they were like, "Hey, where's the video gone? "Why is it gone?" And luckily I'd just been dealing with a ton of like copyright issues. So I emailed them back and being like, "Oh gosh, darn it, that YouTube copyright."

doing its magic again. They've blocked the video worldwide as I'm like retyping all the things. I'm like, I'm pretty sure I can fix it by tomorrow at 8:00 AM. And so I uploaded it and they were like, great work Connor, back up. And I'm like, thank you man, I'm so glad I fixed it. - Wow, you can't go bring that. - I was like, oh my God. I couldn't be there. So yeah, I was really drunk. I wasn't even that drunk. I wasn't even, I was just like lightly buzzed. - I was gonna be really dumb. - I was just really fucking dumb. I just did it. And I was like, fuck, that's a bad thing to do.

Can you please play me? Oh my God. - I got paid for it in the end though. - That's good. That's a YouTube's worst nightmare though. - Deleting a video not so bad, but having to explain to someone. - Why you delete it. - It's like, you know when you have to explain to your parents that you fucked up in some kind of way. And you're like, man, I really have to hype myself up to just explain to mom and dad why this thing has happened. - Oh my God. - That's terrible.

- But going back to Japan nightlife, how do we keep going off on these fucking tangents? - It's fun, let the tangents happen, Jerry. All the fun stories. - No, I'm okay with it, I'm okay. I'm just impressed at ourselves that we can tangent that fucking far away from whatever it is that we're talking about. But one place I like to go to a lot is Bagus. - Oh yeah, I like Bagus too. - Have you been to Bagus?

- I have not been to Bagus. - Okay, okay. 'Cause I was saying before that I was like, I didn't remember if it was you or Connor who hasn't been to Bagus. - I've been to Bagus plenty of times. - But yeah, so Bagus to explain is, it's like a darts, pool, ping pong. - There's more other stuff as well. It depends on like some places. - It's a manga cafe as well. So basically where I did the manga cafe video, that's a Bagus. So they have a bunch of different Baguses. Sometimes they focus on the manga cafe side of things. Sometimes they focus on the pool and darts bar side of things. But basically it's this like 24/7 establishment that's,

where you can just go in like get drinks and just hang out and play pool and stuff like that. - There's a ton in Shinjuku and Shibuya. - Yeah, yeah, a lot, a lot. But I'm surprised you haven't been. - I don't know, I don't think that's... Yeah, I don't know, I just haven't been. - I think it's one of those places 'cause you wanna spend at least two to three hours there and you don't really wanna do it before

you don't really want to do it after your meal. Cause that's like best drinking hours. So it's normally like, you know, gets to 1:00 AM. You're like, what do you guys want to do? I don't want to keep drinking that much. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - It's fine. I mean, it's kind of pricey though. - It is a little. - If you're there for like three hours, that adds up fast because they charge you per. - Half an hour. - Yeah, half an hour. And then you're buying drinks on top, which in the drinks are kind of a little pricey. - I mean, you can get all you can drink though, of course. - Can you? I don't even know that. - Yeah, you can do all you can drink at a bag.

Again, you have to be prepared to stay for like at least two hours. - Yeah, 'cause I know they do a package that's like till the sun comes up package where it's like one to 6:00 AM and it's quite cheap, but obviously you're committing. - Yeah, but it's like, I'm gonna stay up till 6:00 AM to play pool. - There's only so much pool you can play before you're like, this just isn't fun anymore.

We both aren't good at pool and we've been doing it for 30 minutes and I'm starting to think I don't like this. - I feel like I get better when I'm drinking at pool. - That's the alcohol making you think you're better. - It's not that you're getting better, your opponent, which is just as drunk as you, is getting worse. - I think I just doubt myself too much when I'm playing pool sober. But I think when I'm about two pints in, I just start hitting shots, I'm like,

for some reason it just goes in. And then I have four drinks and then I start getting worse again. I don't know. Like I feel like there's a sweet spot where I'm like slightly tipsy and I'm like a fucking god at pool. - I'm like that with bowling. - I like that darts because it's not a dart board. It's like an arcade machine with a dart board. - It's like, yeah, it's like an electric dart board.

- And some of them are so fucking overkill and what they are. Like there was one where it was like, you could play on whole RPG in Darts. - Yeah, that's right, I remember that. - And I was like, what the fuck is this? And it was like, your dart would do X amount of damage. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it's so hard with a straight face. Like if you're on a date or something being like, hey, do you wanna,

- Play the RPG doc. - That sounds amazing. - It's pretty great for the first time, but then some of the levels were so bullshit. You had to get like triple- - You needed to be like a fucking god. - Yeah, you had to get like triple 20s, like every single one. I'm like, this is bullshit. Medusa should die way easier than this. Come on. - Yeah, but like it's those little touches, right? That I think add to the whole like bag. - It is a lot more fun that you don't have to count.

in the darts 'cause the machine just does it for you. - Exactly, exactly. - And it does make it a lot. - 'Cause I've been to like a lot of old fashioned pubs in Australia where like there is like a dart board. - But you get the real darts in those pubs. They have these like fucking flimsy plastic darts. - Yeah, but it's also like just as dangerous as well when you're like fucking like, "Oh, I've got a fucking sharp metal object." - The drunk danger is exciting, Joey. - Nah, I'm good, man.

- I mean, you meet those people in the UK that are like four pints in and getting nailed. They get like the peak performance out of four pints. It's insane. - I'm like that with bowling. I fucking suck at bowling while I'm sober, but I've quickly discovered the other day that if I drink like two or three pints before bowling, I can do like a fucking turkey like no tomorrow. - It's 'cause you just don't think. - Yeah, I'm just like throw a ball at pin. - I don't know why, but I think,

Bowling is like the most depressing activity out of all of the activities. - Really? - I think so. - I feel like bowling with alcohol is fun. - It's fine. - But bowling without alcohol is boring. - I feel like I like bowling because I didn't really play it growing up. Like I know like you're either the kid who fucking used to bowl all the freaking time for fun or you were that one kid who would only ever bowl. - Who the fuck bowls for fun? - A lot of people do in the UK apparently. - Do they?

- Yeah. - I don't know. - Why do you think bowling's depressing? - I don't know, there's an air to it. - It just doesn't hit different. - Okay, so I went, okay, this isn't an exclusive incident. A lot of the places are like this, but I'm just giving this for an example. I went to a place in California, very nice area of California. And somehow in California, this place that was very like seemed very normal, there's just this one place

and somehow this bowling place was the only place that gave me mega redneck vibes. And I went in there and it was very much just like that, but it seemed like there was just a bunch of people who, you know, like, I don't know. - Have you been bowling in Japan though?

- No, I haven't. - Well then maybe it might change, right? - Unless there's like screens and shit's fucking like, you got to start like a 10. Like a guy comes over, congratulates you. Unless that happens, no way, no way. - No, I mean, there is- - How can bowling be any fucking different in Japan to like other countries? - I mean, there's no rednecks.

- 'Cause to me it just sounds like you said it was the air about it, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then this whole, okay. Are they kind of like, bowling places for some reason universally are like the most like semi rundown places out of any of like the entertainment things. I don't know why. Bowling's always, like places always look the worst.

- I mean, I can see that. - Does anyone understand what I mean? - But the difference is that like a lot of bowling alleys in Japan are run by like round ones. So they'll usually have like the first, usually with like a lot of big round ones, which is like a huge arcade chain if you don't know. But it's like, you know, the first like three floors are like the arcades and the rhythm games and whatnot. And then the next like four floors are all the ones

- To me it's just like an activity to do when you're drinking. - I enjoy it, but I do think it's the worst activity out of the bunch. - Why? - There's plenty of time to talk to your mates. You just throw a ball every few minutes. - And you get to laugh at your mate being shit at bowling. - 'Cause either like everyone's too invested in the bowling and then we're not talking, right? Or nobody's invested in the bowling and what we're doing

- Well then that's not the kind of people you should be going bowling with. - What do you mean? Okay, tell me the perfect level of bowling ratio to conversation ratio I should be expecting. Because what happens is, and this happens every single time you go bowling, right? Everyone's talking. Oh, it's my turn, but I was in the middle of a fun conversation. I don't really want to bowl. So you just fucking throw like a meh bowl because you're already 10 points down. You're not gonna win this one. You're not gonna get a strike. Let's be realistic. 'Cause you're kind of shit at bowling. - Right. - And you know,

- Then someone or sometimes you, okay, so then, sorry, I'm losing my, - If I'm getting tilted over bowling. - So then you go up, you miss out on the conversation and it just feels like you're like speed dating, but the one person is not getting a date who keeps going out. - Right. - I get that if you're only going bowling with your date.

If there's only two people- - No, no, no, no, not dates, not dates, just mates, just mates. 'Cause you're in a group and then you leave the conversation and then no one's really giving a shit about the bowling because they're having a conversation or it's vice versa. - It's just like a background activity, you know what I mean? - Then what's the point? Go do something else. - Well, that's exactly the same as like darts and stuff. - Yeah, that's also what I have to say. It's exactly the same as like darts or pool. - Now darts, you can keep talking while you're playing darts. - You can keep talking while you bowl. - No, you gotta like, what are you gonna do? Follow him up to the ball?

- What are you gonna do? Follow him up to the thing? Like, okay, okay, keep going. Oh, nice bowl. Let's go back now. Let's go talk. - Yeah, I do that sometimes. - Fuck off. I would be like, fuck off, Joey. I'm trying to bowl here. - Okay, that doesn't make sense 'cause you're like, I don't give a shit about the bowling. I only care about the conversation, right? - But when I'm bowling, I give a shit about the bowling, right? And then when I'm talking, when it's someone else's turn, I give a shit about talking. - You're the most difficult fucking bowler

- I just feel like it's a dichotomy and it shouldn't exist bowling. - There's like so many activities I can think of that, you know. - No, they're easier. Pool, while you're doing the pool, you can talk. While you're doing darts, you can talk. Everything else you can do without like talking. - It's because it's like a group activity. 'Cause with ball and darts, I feel like it's just like two people that's doing it at a time. - Yeah, but you can do it with like group, like pool. You can all sit around the table and enjoy this. - Yeah, but there's only two people playing pool, right? - Yeah, but okay, with bowling- - You can do it like tag. - Because it's such a distance,

- One, too much walking. Can I just put that out there? Too much walking. - From such a distance. - You have to walk far enough away where you can't be in the car. Okay, this is gonna sound so fucking dumb. All of this sounds dumb, I realize. But you have to walk far enough away where you are then leaving the conversation. - But you don't have to leave the conversation. - No, you are, you're gone, sorry. - If the conversation is like, you're not gonna

you're not gonna be fucking far away for like five minutes. You're up there for like three seconds. - That's enough to leave the conversation. - I'll be honest, I've never thought this deeply about bowling before. - I think this deeply about everything in my life, except for music and story. - So in your mind, are you thinking like, this could be optimized? This situation could be optimized. This isn't speed running fun. This is fun with extra steps. - There's too much gap between, no one needs that much run up when they're bowling. And if you do, something's wrong.

Let's shorten the distance between where the seats are and where the alley starts. - But I mean, you're not gonna have a fucking 500 meter run up to bowl. - I know some people who are like, I need the full length. - Well then I don't wanna go bowling with people like that. That just sounds like a douche. You're taking this bowling shit way too seriously. - I just think that bowling is a not very optimized sport for friendship engagement.

I'm gonna put that out there. I just think it's not the best. You know, what can I say gentlemen? - I don't know, I've had like, 'cause okay, 'cause I've been bowling with like- - I'm sure there's some people out there that are like, Connor knows what he's talking about. He's not monkey brain. - Yeah, well, they're the kind of people I don't wanna go bowling with. - Because I don't know, there's always gonna be those comments 'cause they're gonna be like, oh, I'm not talking

- I'm not alone. I need to speak up. - Finally. - Also bowling feels like an activity where I shouldn't have to change my shoes. You know what I mean? It's that level of activity that isn't,

serious enough to warrant me changing clothes. - I will admit, the shoes part is kind of bullshit. - It's not like you're going rock climbing or something, right? Like where it's like, I understand I need to bring flexible clothing, right? It feels like an activity that shouldn't require me changing clothes. And I hate the fact that you always get the most disgusting rancid shoes

that feels so, yeah, okay, sure, they fucking spray it. They give it a little alcohol spray. Like that does fucking anything. This shit is disgusting. - Okay, to be fair though, Japan is really good with their cleanliness and stuff like that. So I've never gotten, I've had that in Australia where like- - Still, I don't wanna fucking wear my fucking Where's Waldo shoes while I'm talking to my friends eating the most pathetic fries in existence that have been half cooked

while we have a half good conversation and overpriced alcohol. I just think bowling needs to be done better and it's depressing as fuck. - I don't know why. - It looks like someone's had childhood trauma in a bowling alley. - Who hurt you? - Show me on the door where bowling sucks. - Show me on the bowling alley.

- On the bowling ball. - My closing statement on bowling. - Okay, there's a question I need to ask you. Because have you had bad bowling experiences when you were a kid or is it something that you developed as an adult? - Yeah, as I become an adult, this became a thing. But now that I have that thought now where I was like, you know what? I just realized, 'cause bowling places always had arcades, right? I had more fun in the arcade than I did bowling whenever I went bowling.

So what does that say about bowling? 'Cause you know, when there was like, if you would have a party with like 12 kids, you're waiting a long fucking time. - I feel like you don't enjoy bowling for the same reason you skip stories. - I want the game play. - If you could just bowl 10 balls in a row and just like, and then have conversation. I'm sure you would enjoy it there. But you're just like, skip. Skip the other player. - Skip, skip, skip. - I think because it's like,

I don't know if you're like this, but when it's like not my turn, I have like a tiny bit of anxiety of like, fuck, when's it gonna be my turn? I don't know when it's gonna be my turn. When am I gonna get called out? I don't wanna be that ass. - It's not that serious. - I know it isn't, but this is the thing. - You're literally throwing balls.

- Someone out there viewing will experience this where you're just like, yeah, it's kind of anxious just not knowing when I'm gonna have to fucking stand up and throw something. Like I just like to know that, okay, I'm gonna just do it and then I can come back. - You're treating it like it's a fucking quick time event. Like you can go up whenever you want. - I just wanna talk to my homies or play the arcades. Can we separate them both? - Well then maybe you'll enjoy bowling if it was a one player.

- You can just play bowling by yourself. And be like, finally, I get all the turns. - You know what my best experience bowling was? Wii Sports. That was the best bowling. You know why? No waiting. I could just throw that shit. - And it's 100% optimized. - Yeah, and you had that 100 pin ball. That shit was fun as fuck. I love watching YouTube videos of people getting like the thousand pins. Shit's amazing. It feels good. - Well then maybe we should do that.

- Just wee bowling? - Yeah, just wee bowling. - No, no, 'cause I still gotta wait for you to do your turn. I don't like that. - Yeah, but you can skip it if you want. - Skip Joey's turn. - Yeah, skip, skip, skip. - Yeah, I feel like talking to you for enough times, I'm like, yeah, I kind of get the donkey brain now. It's starting to make sense. I'm like scientifically dissecting how your brain works. - I just think, 'cause you know, certainly pool or darts, you're constantly talking and next to each other. It doesn't really fucking matter when it's my turn, but bowling, 'cause it's like, all right, I have to walk up and,

- Well, why don't you walk up with them? - And also, okay, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a big fan of having to pick the ball. I'm kind of sick of doing that. 'Cause you've been there, right? That one place where they don't have your fucking hand size. It's either too fucking big where it feels like you're trying to grab three fucking food containers, large, or it's like, yes, I want my fingers to be crushed to death and potentially just pull my, dislocate my finger when I throw this.

You know it 'cause you've been to a place like that. - No, I haven't. - Fuck off. - That's why I'm laughing because you must have- - What, you haven't? - Because I feel- - Come on, I haven't. - You've been to a place and you're like, "I can't enjoy this bowling because none of these fucking balls fit my hand." - The one thing I will say about bowling is that no matter ball you choose, somehow it just doesn't feel right. - It never feels good.

- You pick a ball and you're like, this feels right. And then you throw it and like, ooh, that didn't feel good. Let me go for the smaller one. And then you throw it and you're like, nah, that feels too light. So you go for the bigger one again. And it just, I don't know. - You never get the right one and it's never satisfying. - You're in a constant state of like anxiety to be like, you guys must've gone to some shit bowling alley. - You know they don't fucking clean those bowling balls on the inside either.

- Okay, that's all the more reason I wanna take you guys to a Japanese bowling ball because every single thing that you guys have been complaining about the bowling experience, I feel is completely get rid of. - I feel like I'm in the middle for this. Like I don't hate bowling as much as Connor, but if I would like to make us like a tier list, bowling is like a good C tier. - Yeah, it's definitely the one of the worst. - Yeah.

- I'm not gonna say that bowling is like an S tier experience or anything. It's like a B tier for me as well. - It's like the fairy tale of entertainment sports. Like it's just mid, man.

- Bowling is mid. - I remember I went on a date when I first got here and they wanted to go to Bagus. And I was like, "Yeah, sure, sure, sure, we're Bagus." And then the back of my head, I was like, "Yeah, I'll take it easy on you." And then I just started like fucking destroying them in pool. And they were like, "Oh man, I guess I got lucky." We started playing darts. I started just fucking crushing them in that. And I'm like, "Yeah, good, know your place."

- I'm joking, I'm joking. - Wow. - She beat me in darts. - Yeah. - I just like, does the word casual mean anything to you? Like just playing casually? - Bowling is a casual player sport. I don't like bowling.

- It's 'cause you can't win in it Connor. - Maybe that's why, 'cause I fucking suck at bowling. Maybe that's why I hate it. - Yeah, actually I always wanted to ask you, like going back to the monkey brain thing, like your opinion on gameplay and we've had a few comments about this. Why don't you like fighting games? That is probably the game genre that would like in theory,

appeal to you the most? - Yeah, there's no story. - It's probably like the one type of video game that I've just never enjoyed playing. - Why is that? - I think it's like the difficulty curve is insanely high. And I feel that like, I don't wanna sit there and have to research combos because sure when I pull one off, I'm like,

"Cool, that animation was fine, I guess." I just don't feel like I care enough about like to learn these combos. Whereas in a game like, I don't know, like a first person shooter, it's so intuitive that like- - 'Cause it's just one button. - Yeah, it's literally just point and click, right? And like, yeah, it is very, anyone can figure it out. - Yeah.

it's that one simple mechanic that you keep mastering and you keep getting better and better. And so it's kind of like, I've noticed that I really only enjoy games where it's a easy to learn, hard to master type of thing. And fighting game is just hard to learn. - No, I feel fighting games are easy to learn. - No, Smash maybe? - Yeah, Smash I think is the one. - I really enjoy Smash. Smash is fun because I feel that it's just, I don't know.

it's not like fucking Tekken where I have to worry about like the frames and the frame spacing and stuff. - I know, I mean like people in Smash worry about that. - But Smash is a casual game, there I said it. I'm kidding. - That's what Sakurai says. - That's the take. - I just like fucking made like a thousand people.

- I'm kidding, I love watching Smash competitive, but for me it's a party game, right? - Oh yeah, but that's the great thing about Smash, right? Is that like, it's really fun to watch as a party game, but it's also really fun person. - Yeah, 'cause the thing that's really hard about fighting games is that it's hardly ever a party game, right? Because whenever you are at a party and people are playing fighting games, there's always that guy or two guys. You know who you are.

- You see people put on like smash or Tekken and you're like. - 'Cause they never leave that fucking couch. They will never leave it. If they need to piss, they're not going. They won't wait till they get home. Fighting games don't wait. - Like this is what they've trained like their entire life for. Like, okay, let me smash the noobs. Let me smash all the people at this party. And then they need to find other people like them to like continue on this path that they've put themselves on. - It's the same people who rock up to an anime convention just

with their like the game pad and they're like, I know where I'm spending this. There's no question about where I'm spending these three days. Point me to the room with the Wii U's. - Because I feel like with fighting games, it's yeah, it's, I've,

enjoy watching fighting games more than I enjoy playing them. Because you get to a point where you're just smashing buttons and you're like, I kind of get it. And then you go online or something and then you just get destroyed. There is like the difficulty curve, as you said, it's just casual. But to be the difference between a beginner and a casual is like so fucking massive. - Oh, it's huge. - Because you go from button mashing to having to learn like

of fighting games are basic combos and the difference between that. - Counting frames and shit. - Yeah, stuff like that. - The difference between the beginner and the casual is so fucking like. - Okay, for example, right? In a game of Overwatch, right? A pro can be killed by someone who is absolutely garbage at the game. Like it's very plausible that he could do that. But in a fighting game,

the fucking pro is never gonna lose to a casual, right? Like it's not gonna happen. And I think that that element of like, all right, well, if I just play better most of the time, I'll always win, right? Which is like- - It's because in fighting games, there's no element of chance in any way, like especially if you're at a pro level because they just know what's coming. - And I think that's kind of fun and that's the kind of stuff that really drives me into like overdrive of wanting to learn something is that like, I had a chance of beating that guy and I could have done it. If I just keep practicing, I'll easily get it. And then I keep going. And that's how I got into League.

- So then maybe if you just gave that a go with like Street Fighter or like Mortal Kombat. - Maybe. - I reckon if you learn one fighting game, you'll be- - I reckon I'd be hooked. Yeah, I reckon I would be hooked. Which is why I don't want to, 'cause I'm already trying to learn like Japanese. Last thing I need is something else taking over my fucking life. - Fair enough, fair, fair. - 'Cause like fighting games, people I know who like fighting games,

super chill, but their life is fighting games. Like they don't talk about anything else. Like they're like, oh, you had a nice day. Oh, that's cool. I had a nice day learning the smash combos. Like it's like, it's like what? Like they'll bring it up when it's not even in the conversation. Like, yeah, I love Leonardo DiCaprio, but by the time, sorry, fuck it. - That's what it sounds like sometimes. It's just a gobble. - It's like Leonardo DiCaprio, somehow turned into smash. It's like, what the fuck?

- I'd smash him the way I'd smash my combos in Super Smash Brothers. It's like, what? Stop, stop. - I will say like from the outside looking in, the fighting game community looks like one of the funnest communities to be in. - I love the trash talking. - The trash talking is so good. - Yeah, the trash talking. - And it looks so fun. - Yeah, League of Legends, they banned that shit. I'm like, dude, I love trash talking. I love trash talking in video games. I think it's so fun.

- Maybe it's because like the trash talking in like some of those communities just go a little bit too far. - Maybe, I mean, League of Legends is not trash talk. It's like, I'm going to kill you and your family. - Yeah, it's like a legit threat sometimes. - But I reserve the right to just type to someone, "You're bad." Like, I think that's, come on. Someone can do it to me. I won't mind, it won't ruin my day. - In a sense, that's one of the worst ways to trash talk, right? If someone just typed in, "You are bad," in chat, lowercase, it's like,

- How dare you? It's like the worst type of insult. - I competed on the, like one time they did a gaming tournament for my universities. And I was like really fucking good at COD. And so I- - You're one of those kids. - Yeah, I competed on that. - Of course you're a Call of Duty kid. - So there was this thing, oh my God, I'm gonna just go on this whole tangent then now, if you guys are fine with that.

I used to, when I was like 15, I won a fuck ton of card tournaments because Modern Warfare 3, I don't know if you ever played, did you ever play Modern Warfare? - A little bit. - I stopped at Modern Warfare 2. - Okay, so Modern Warfare 3 had this thing where you could pay like $40 a year or whatever for like the pass for all the maps. And then you could also go on this website that they had and they had like tournaments. And I entered one and they would have a prize for like, okay, first 10 people get,

shot glasses of "Call of Duty." Which is like, lame as fuck to anyone who's over the age of 18. But 15 year old me was like,

- I can pull my G fuel into that. - I can get something for playing card. So I went to my mate's house 'cause I know that my parents would never let me pull an all nighter. 'Cause bear in mind these tournaments were essentially what they were was a stat tracking. So it would be 24 hours tournament of where you would just, it would be like most kills in team death match. So you would just go into a normal team death match and just play. And then it would count how many kills

how many kills you had in team deathmatch before and how many had- - So it's basically just like hooking at the highest score. - Yeah, right. So basically it was like, you just fucking keep playing. And I shit you not, I played fucking like capture the flag for like,

20 hours straight doing this to win these shot glasses. And I was like crippled after it. I was like, it was worth it. I came like, I'd won so many at that time that I was able to go to sleep confidently knowing that no one would be able to like overtake me. I think I came like third or something. So I won. And then what happened was that it all changed. They changed it so that it was three hours now.

way more manageable. So I was like, sweet, I can enter all of them. And they were like most flags defended and captured, weird shit. So sometimes I would be sitting at my base just waiting for someone to take my flag, kill them, get it back, and then just go back and camp. And I would do this shit.

I won like 15 tournaments or something in the end. - So my room was full of shot glass. - Tell you what though. - What was the best prize you got? - iPad Pro at the time. - Oh wow. - iPad when I was like 17, the brand new iPad at the time, my mom thought that I was like a drug dealer because she was like, what the fuck? 'Cause all this stuff turned up. I won this fucking huge poker set, wooden poker set. They only made 250 of them.

And I still have it at my house 'cause I couldn't sell it. 'Cause it was worth about 700 pounds. - Jesus. - It's a wood box like this big and you open it up and all these like wooden poker chips, handcrafted, cod decks, dealer chips, metal, immaculate. I'll show you pictures, they'll be on screen right now. It's crazy. And I was doing these for ages. I won like three skateboard decks. I don't skateboard. What the fuck's I gonna do?

a hoodie, two coaster sets that I still use actually, metal coasters with like cod skulls on them. Fucking cringe stuff. One like wall decals, which I couldn't fucking use. I sold most of the stuff on eBay. But yeah, I want an iPad pro, which is the one time. And then I got banned from competing. - Why? - Because you were too good? - No, no, no. So the rules were not well-defined. - Okay. - And I was,

- I don't know how to, how do I describe it? - You're a sneaky motherfucker. - You bent the rules to your advantage. - Listen, if I saw an opportunity to win an iPad Pro, I'm gonna take the opportunity to win an iPad Pro, 'cause it seemed all legit. So about halfway through these tournaments, I realized, okay, I'm trying really hard to win these, but I think I can also do it a lot easier. So basically what I would do is I'd won a bunch of these tournaments and I used,

that like notoriety from those tournaments to like recruit people to come. Okay, so, 'cause it would, all it would do is track your stats. So everyone else on your team didn't matter. So if you had a team that was coordinated into making sure that you were the one getting everything, right? - So you basically smurfed. - So what I did was, is I got like these like five Swedish players. And for some reason, the Swedish and Norwegian dudes

always fucking amazing at college. They were way too good. And I promised them if they helped me win all these tournaments, I would join that clan.

I was like negotiating online with you. I would shout you out, I would join. Bear in mind, I wasn't worth anything, but to them, they were like, "Yo, he's winning all these tournaments. "We gotta get this guy in." So did you ever know the game mode like kill confirmed? - No. - Basically a game where you killed someone and they would drop a tag and you'd have to collect it. So there was one tournament that was like, whoever gets the most kill confirms in three hours won. So what I did was I told these guys, I was like, "Hey,

kill these dudes and put a marker on the map of where you dropped it and don't collect it. And I just ran around collecting them all. I didn't kill anyone. And I should have not done that because what ended up happening was like, first place was like 1,200, second place, 400. And it raised like a lot of alarm bells. People were like, that doesn't seem fair.

- So I got away with it for like two or three tournaments before people started really complaining. And people were like, this isn't fair. He's winning everything 'cause of this. But then the thing was people started doing it. So then it was a matter of everyone was fucking cheating each other. And because there was some real fucking big boy prizes. There was a Jeep, one of them. - Jesus. - Which I...

I was like 10 points off winning a fucking Jeep at the age of 16. I was winning all these prizes under my dad's name because they wouldn't ship it to you if you were- - Underage. - They also made me fill out tax forms, which I couldn't even legally fill out, which I just- - What did you tell your dad that you were like filling out? - I was like, "Dad, I have won a bunch of stuff. And it's gonna turn up to the house in a UPS van about 20 items. I need you to pretend that you won them, Dad."

And they were very visibly like, "What?" And then they were like, "Okay, I guess." And so the thing that got me banned, right? From these tournaments. There was this one price that was, you know the movie "Battleship" featuring Rihanna? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They were promoting the movie "Battleship." One of the prizes was you could rent out a whole movie theater

and take all your friends to get drinks, snacks. - To go watch battles. - To go watch battles. And I thought to myself, the amount of street cred I'll get from this is immeasurable. This is an outstanding move that no one will experience. So I was like, okay, okay, okay. Okay, bear in mind, I have to say, people might just call bullshit on this whole thing, but I was literally eight hours a day addicted to Cod. So straight up, this is what made for me to do this.

What I had was, this was a team deathmatch tournament. I remember this so vividly. And in team deathmatch you have to kill them. So what I would do is I would ask my friends to go around with riot shields in cards. Do you ever play it? - Yeah. - Don't kill anyone. - Okay. - If you can trap them in a corner, tell me where they are. I'll come over and pop them in the head. - Right. - So what we would do is, right? I coordinated it. - It's like a mafia move. - It was literally right. - So what like incentive did you give them to like follow everything you said? - Fucking nothing.

- I was keeping this order myself. I never ever told them once I was gonna help them do it. I was just like, I'm just gonna take the prizes and you guys can help me. And they were like, all right, sounds good. - That sounds like a good deal. - I do remember thinking, so the Swedish dudes, they had a reason, right? Because I would join their team. I did join their team and we won a lot of tournaments, but a lot of the other people who helped me out had no incentive whatsoever. I think they just wanted to have fun. It was entertaining as fuck to just go in and do this.

I won some of these tournaments on my own, but I was sweating my ass off. Like I would have to like really play my best. And so I thought why do that when I can just get it secured. I mean, it's in the rules. There's no rules against it. - Work smart and all harder. - I was like, why am I sweating when I can just guarantee the W, right? Like, so yeah, I did that.

And by that time they'd implemented a feature where you could see like a heat map of what was happening. People were starting to see that it was like 75 kills to me, zero, zero, zero, zero with my teammates. And people were like, hmm, hmm, that doesn't seem like a normal game of team deathmatch. He got a nuke, hmm.

And so what happened was is that they wanted to make an example out of me and they were like, no more doing this. No one else is allowed to do this. We've banned this from happening. Yeah, and so they banned me from doing it. And I remember I spoke to the other, 'cause there was like four of us who won all of these tournaments. And the other two were like 30 year old men who worked in like construction companies. And this is like all they would do in F3 time. And I felt bad for them 'cause I was like a 15 year old kid being like, I'm gonna take the money that you probably need. I don't need this shit, I'm gonna take it.

- I love how they banned you and then you kind of became, you like V for Vendetta. It's like, I wanted to make a statement and I got banned for it. But it was worth it to get the W. - To this day, I was like, the one year after that, I was so fucking bitter because I was like, it wasn't in their fucking rules. They just did it to make an example out of me.

The website shut down five months after. - Down with the government. - Yeah, the website failed five months after. I was like, yeah, fuck you. - Wow. - They emailed me like two years later being like, hey, could you fill out those tax forms we sent you? I'm like, and I just never did. So I'm like, what are you gonna do? I live in a different country. What are you gonna do, sue me?

- I was 15 at the time. - How legit was this website? - It was the official Call of Duty website. If you wanted to go and track your stats, you'd have to go and do this. And you would just pay like 10 pounds extra a year to get access to the tournament. - Man, you're that guy who just tries to cheat every system in life. - Oh dude, yeah.

- Over optimize everything. - It's like if there's like loopholes or corners to be cut, I'll just always find them. Cause it's like, that's- - You work smarter, right? - Like why would I work harder when I can just do things easy, right?

- That's what I've been doing. - That's what every criminal says. - No, no, no, no. So it was, I was not cheating. There was no rule against what I was doing and they fucking, they banned me 'cause I was too good at their own game. - I wasn't cheating. I was just bending the rules. - Yeah, I was outsmarting. - I was so sad. - I was outsmarting the system. - I'm so fucking sad 'cause like- - Your honor, I was outsmarting the system.

- The only thing I want, the only two, okay, too bad that iPad, I got mad mileage out of that iPad. That was worth it all. That iPad was worth like $2,000 at the time. So that was amazing. And my mom was like, still like, even after was like, "Hmm, you got an iPad." - Yeah, you doing drugs, son? - Did you send dick pics to somebody, Connor? Is that how you got the iPad? - You're selling drugs on the side? - Are you winning, son?

- Are you winning? - That was such a fun time. That was great. That was so fun. I love doing that. 'Cause I just won so much. I wish I won the good stuff, like the Jeeps. - Dude, that would have been a mad flex. If you want to- - I was just busy watching anime at that age. - Yeah, same. - I remember the Jeep, I wasn't close to winning, but there was one time where they had quad bikes

- Oh, same. - Full on quad bike, worth about like 10 grand maybe? - Yeah. - I came fucking fourth and it was for the top three and I came fourth by draw. - Oh wow. - So I'd drawn for it and I didn't get it because of that. I was so annoyed. I was like, "Mom, I didn't get the quad bikes."

- Would you even be able to use the quad bikes? I suppose in Wales, yeah. - In Wales, yeah. There's plenty of people to sell them to. I think four out of the 30 people in my class had quad bikes. Everyone had quad bikes for some reason. - Those were the guys who came in the top three.

- That's how they got it. - I mean, it was, yeah. I think it would have been problematic if I got that though, because I'm not sure how much my dad could have bullshitted. 'Cause I imagine there would have been a lot more forms involved when it came to a quad bike. Like UPS isn't just dropping off a quad bike. - Insurance and everything, right? - Did he ever find out how you got those stuff? - Yeah, they knew. They were just like the first few tournaments that I said I won, they didn't believe me until,

'cause all of the stuff turned up at once, like these 20, 'cause I'd won I think around 15 tournaments total. And they all turned up at the same day the prizes. And my mom was like in complete disbelief. She was like, "You weren't lying?"

- What is this? - Wow. - I wish I could get my mom onto a test. She probably has a better memory of it than me 'cause I don't remember it very well. - You are the epitome of I am winning dad. - I literally was that hyper competitive kid. When I found something I really liked, it was like, I would get just insanely good at it. - I wish I could have that.

'Cause I like, if I found something that I was, 'cause in that sense, you're very much like a perfectionist with that kind of things. I'm not like that. I'm just like, if I'm good enough, then that's good enough for me. - I can never be like that with stuff. But the problem is if I don't have that drive, I kind of don't care about anything. So it's so fleeting. - For me when it comes to gaming, in every kind of like competitive game, I always have this like honeymoon period where you're just learning the game and it's just fun.

And then when you start playing ranked, like ranked for like the first few months, I'm like, yeah, this is pretty fun. And then you get to that, you hit the wall, you hit the wall. And that's for me when it stops getting fun. That for me is when it starts becoming like a nine to five grind. You know what I mean? This is like, I'm not even having fun grinding anymore. This feels like another job. I'm getting like angry for some reason over a fucking video game. - I did a flashback. When I was in my promos, I was,

I was one game away from being in master tier at TFT. And I'd only been playing it for like a month. And I was like, I'm gonna be a fucking pro at TFT. I'm actually gonna be a pro. And then I got demoted and I just lost all interest in the game. I was like, to get better, the amount of mind power I'd have to like exert would be too much. I'm like, I can't do this. And you realize like to get 10% better would take like eight hours a day of playing. It's like, I can't do it. I can't do it.

- I'd rather be just like an average Joe at like a lot of different things rather than excel at like a couple of things. - I think I'm the opposite. I think that's what I've been. I've been like really bad at a lot of things in my life, but the things that I do like, I get like way, way good at 'cause I get super into it. Normally when I'm into something, I rarely think about anything else. Like it's like, I only wanna do this one thing and I'm gonna do it as much as possible until I'm bored of it. And then when I'm bored of it, I pretty much never come back to it.

- It's weird. - Just that every episode, just like the monkey brain war just gets like deeper and deeper. - I know people are gonna, I know people, 'cause people, I already see some cards, they're like, Connor must be bullshitting. One or two of the stories, I've like messed up the details and had to like fucking elaborate, like go a bit extra back. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I guarantee that the stories where I'm talking about chess and- - I get, like I said,

on the subreddit being like, Connor's kind of experienced too much. - He's bullshitting. - No one human can experience this much in his life, right? - No, no, no. - It's normally the stupidest stories where I, you know, maybe enjoy the details a bit more to make it more entertaining. - Yeah, of course. - But the stories I'm talking about, like that kind of stuff, yeah, that legit happened. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I mean- - No, 'cause like, I don't remember a lot of my life back at the time, back, like, I think there's just,

I don't know if it's like, obviously not with you, but with you Joey, do you have like a blank period in your life where you just like don't remember much of anything that happened in high school? - Yeah, all of high school, but that's just because I was doing drugs. - There it goes. - If I'm to be frank with you, that's exactly why, right?

- Are you keeping that in? Do you want that in? - I'm okay with that. - I don't care. - 'Cause it's the truth. I don't remember anything. - Okay, okay. Because there was the time when we were talking about how you were getting into anime. And then I think you mentioned that there's a reason, can't really say why, that I just stopped watching anime. People were like, "Was he jacking off? "Is that what he was like?"

- Was he like selling his body for sex? Like what was it? It's like, no, I was doing drugs. I'm just gonna put it out there. Not hard drugs. I just like to pinpoint that not hard drugs, but yeah, but that's the thing, right? Like that's where I had that blank of just like, I wasn't really doing anything with my life and all I was really doing was like playing music or like playing games, but not to the extent that you were playing games. I was just like fucking on new grounds playing the,

like dumbest fucking flash games that have ever existed. - Yeah, I guess for me, like the only thing I've been super invested in is like my career now, which is like YouTube. And I do think of YouTube as a game. It's totally a game. - It's totally gamified. - Yeah. - It's pretty wide been able to like, you know, I guess grow. I guess 'cause like, I don't know, like the way I see it is kind of like- - You have fucking optimized YouTube game though. - I don't know, I think that,

- There are many aspects that it shares with a game, right? Unfortunately. - Yeah, of course. - I mean, there's still a huge creative aspect of it, but I think there's ways to like iterate on yourself that are very game-like. It's like you do things better. - I feel like social media in general is a game. Like you look at something like Twitter,

where I think, I remember I watched this series by this guy called Charlie Brooker who made a series called like the top most influential video games of all time. And he put number one was Twitter. And like when, at first I was like, what the fuck you talking about? Twitter isn't a game. And then you think about it where like, oh yeah, you play an avatar online to farm numbers. And the more, like the more you get into it, the more numbers you farm. And I'm just like,

you know, he's kind of got a point. Cause like- - Damn he's right. - Yeah, nobody really, you're like playing a version of yourself, but it's not like you don't show all of yourself online. No one ever does show themselves online. - Yeah, you gotta optimize every tweet you make, right? - Yeah, exactly. - Should I, do I phrase it in this way? Like, is this funny thing to do?

- I don't know how some people can fucking tweet like 50 tweets in a day. I don't think I have 50 tweets, like 50 thoughts in a day, let alone like 50 fucking- - Do you ever get those moments you're like, "Oh, I want to find that one funny tweet from that account." And then you're scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. You're like, "Oh, it's only been seven hours ago of tweeting. What the fuck? Stop tweeting. You tweet too much."

- I think it's like, are you just like, are you just that kind of person where you just can't like think about the thought to yourself? It's like, I have to put this out into the world. - Some people get like a fucking coffee at Starbucks. Like I got a coffee from Starbucks, oh my God. - Hashtag relatable. - Oh my God. Yeah, Twitter is a game and it's a hard game, but I enjoy it.

- Damn, that's gonna be a fuck. I wanted to go an episode or two where I didn't tell a fucking elaborate, stupid long story, but I completely remembered that I used to fucking play COD competitively. I didn't even get to the reason why I brought it up, but that's a story for another time. - Yeah, that's all right. We'll leave it for the next time. - Remember how this episode was about Japanese nightlife?

- Hey man, we spoke about that long enough. Cods came up. - I think that was like, I said everything I wanted to say about Japanese nightlife. - We'll come back to it when we've experienced more of it. - Yeah, I feel like there's so much more of Japanese nightlife we need to experience. - Wait till the trash tastes special in a soap land. If you don't know what a soap land is, it's a- - It's a place where you get clean.

- Yeah, with soap. - Cleaned. - You have a service. - You cleanse yourself. - You have a service and they don't advertise which soap they use. They advertise which women are doing it. And you can probably figure out why that's the case on your own. I was concerned with, well, what kind of scrubbing method are they using? - Yeah, I was like, I need to know the- - Is it grass fed? - Do I bring my own loofah or are they going to have one there? - Do I need to bring a shower cap? - Do they use their own soap or can I bring my like-

- I have a handcrafted organic that I need to use. Meanwhile, the guy's getting a hand job next to me and I'm like, whoa, that's cool. - I'm not okay with the soap. - I've never been to one by the way, just wanna make that very clear before someone fucking assumes. So I'm sure you guys haven't as well. - No, no. - Yeah, Joey? - Joey? - Joey?

- Implanting that thought and someone's like, "Wait, has he?" - "Please, no." Yeah, but that's about it for this episode. - That's a pretty good way to wrap it up. - But hey, check out these amazing people on Patreon who support us. Look at all these lovely people. - I bet these pro gamers are good at COD.

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- Yeah, and I think you've said everything. I have nothing else to add to that. - I looked over at you like, anything else? - I saw you in the corner of my eye and I'm just like, I don't know what you expect me to say, Joey. - Stop looking at me, Joey. - You literally shouted everything out. - I'm just like, I said everything I had to say. Help, please help. Please end this misery right now. - You could have just said like, oh, thank you very much, goodbye. And I'm like, what do you want me to say, Joey? - Sometimes I feel like I'm not the monkey.

- What do you mean? - That's been Trash Taste. I'm not answering that question, Joey. Goodbye. - Bye. - Bye.