The YouTuber Life is CURSED | Trash Taste #41
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I am your host for today, Garnt. That is a real name, I can assure you. And I'm joined today with my co-host Connor and Joey. - The ones with the real names. - The actual real names. - The actual real names. - Me, the whitest man on earth.

So by the time this comes out, this would have been very old by now, but we haven't really got a chance to have had a real debrief on our cycling special. - Oh yeah. - Because we filmed an outro and that turned out to be 26 minutes or something like that. And we were just like- - Originally, yeah. - Yeah, originally. And people, we were like, people don't want to hear us talk about a special they've just seen. - By the way, if you haven't watched the cycling special, you should go and do that before we, we're gonna be talking about that video. So if you wanna watch that, link down below or top. - On screen now. But I think,

The biggest thing, I mean, obviously the reaction for that has been absolutely incredible. - That's been awesome. - But what I found funny was how seriously people took when it came to discussing who won and who lost and who cheated in that cycling special. - There was, I've never seen like our subreddit turn into like

just the most like, "No you!" - It was a fucking free for all for a good period of time there. - It was like a fucking like team Garnt and Joey versus team Connor battle. - Is this how the Twilight fandom were in the prime? - Yeah, I mean, I get it. They're invested. - They're invested, which is a good sign. - I mean, okay, I think I'm very fake salty.

Like I'm always like fake angry. - I think we are all fake salty and fake angry. - But like in real life as well, I'll get like, I'll start like getting like, I'll sound like loud. I'm like, yo, this is fucked up. And they'll be like, well, you really care? I'm like, no, no, no, not really. I just like getting annoyed about things in a way that isn't like Twittery. - That's very British of you. - Yeah, British, very British. It's like, I can't believe this. They're like, oh my God, really? Like, no, I don't really give a shit. I mean, like, you know, the cheating, I was like, at the moment, I'm sure when I found out you cheated, I was like,

"Motherfuckers." And then I probably just thought like, "All right, well." - Yeah, yeah. - But then obviously, 'cause there's also clips of like me talking about it on my live stream, but obviously like I play up the saltiness 'cause I'm, you know, it's good showmanship, you know? - It is, it's fun. - Yeah, but it's unfortunate that like a large majority of the internet doesn't understand sarcasm. - So there was like an off subreddit people discussing

- Yeah, who cheated, who really won? Who was the real winner? - Who done it? - And there was this one comment, I can't remember what it was called, but they were like, "Big man Connor Cahoon thinks he's a real winner, real Chad, huh? Calling his friends cheaters when he cheated. He was getting so angry about it." And I was like, "What the fuck?"

- It was just so funny seeing how like the fact that there were so many people who are infinitely more salty than we are. Like we didn't give a shit. - It's like to us, it's, you know, we make the video, we film it. If someone cheats, you know, and it makes for good content, it makes for good content. - I mean, originally I remember going on a cycling special. I think I, this got cut out the video, but I remember telling Connor, yeah, I'm gonna do the whole thing because you know,

- Even if I don't win, I'll feel good if I do the whole thing. And so the fourth challenge happens and then Joey suggested the cheating and I just thought to myself, that'll make for a really funny segment if we do actually cheat. - That's exactly what it was. It's like, yeah, sure, you know,

saying that, oh, I wanted to take a fucking free car ride. Like, you know, I'd be lying if I say I didn't want that. But ultimately I was like, no, no, no, let's do this because it'll make for great content. And it did. - It's not about the race. It was about friendship. - It was about the friends we lost along the way, which is apparently each other.

- True, true. - No, because like, I feel like, you know, there's a difference between, obviously none of it was scripted, which, you know, we don't script what happens on the specials, but we are still, you know, we do still have that voice in the back of our head that says, this is going to be content. People are gonna watch this for entertainment. - 'Cause let's be real, like, you know, there was a part of me that was like,

I'm sure there will be some level of entertainment factor if hypothetically all three of us with no accidents whatsoever completed everything from start to finish. But it's the little bits of unexpected drama that makes for an interesting video. - It's the drama, it's the banter. I feel like that's what makes for the interesting video. I feel like part of,

this discussion, it's like, we laugh at it because we know we didn't take it seriously, but I'm glad people were that invested in our content to really go balls deep, to really like break down the levels of cheating. And like, okay, I had like, I swear some people could make a spreadsheet of like every little thing that we did. - It's like the dream cheating thing.

People are gonna start hiring like astrophysicists who cheated technically. - There's a one in seven trillion chance that Garnt's chain would break at that very moment. - There was one comment that was like, why didn't Garnt just put the chain back on? I did think that. I was like, why didn't Garnt put the chain back on? - Actually, this wasn't this, a lot of my, you know, trying to fix the chain did get cut out, but it was like completely lodged in there. So like,

- The reason you were waiting so long for us was because I was like trying to unlodge this fucking chain. And then like, I got it back on and then it came off again immediately. And I was trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with my bike. So I had this like half an hour to 45 minutes where I realized that I had gone the entire cycle without first gear. So the reason the chain came off was because when I went to the highest gear, it just slipped off.

- Yeah, these bikes were very cheap. - And like, I realized why I was suffering so much now on the fucking hills was because I just- - You're in second gear the entire way. - I was in second gear the entire way. - I also love though how like there was so many comments even on the video being like, "Oh man, their seats are too low. Their bikes are too small." It's like, look,

- That was the biggest bikes they had. - Those were the biggest bikes. And I think I did adjust my seats to be the highest. Because these people are designed for Japanese people by far because we didn't buy the bikes. They were the rental bikes from the local bike place there. - Yeah, 'cause we had to fly to the other side of the country. So we couldn't bring bikes. - These bikes were definitely not suited for six foot foreigners. That's for sure. - Speak for yourself, Joe. Five foot gang over here.

- But even for your size, it was small, right? - It was just maybe okay for me, but like really pushing it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I remember I put my seat all the way to the top. I was like,

"Oh no, this is the highest it goes. I'm gonna fucking die." - Okay, we're pretty fucking dumb, right? - Yeah. - But we're not that dumb. Like I saw comments that were also like, "Did they even use any gears?" I'm like, "Bro, you wouldn't know if we didn't change gear, 'cause Garnt would not be moving up any of these hills." You think Garnt could pedal at sixth gear up a hill? Are you kidding me? - I was already suffering enough on second gear, let alone fucking sixth gear. - Some people pretend like it was the first time we ever saw a bicycle with gears, like that day. It's like, "What are these things?"

- I didn't realize until I saw the footage actually, how much of a clown I looked with like this fucking mini bike. - You did look like a fucking clown. - With my massive legs, just like pedaling along. - You're basically on like one of those like, you know, the kid bikes where they're like young and they're like sitting, and the feet are going like over here. Like that's what you look like. - You're like kneeing yourself in the rib cage every time. - I was.

- That dude squats every time. - I'm glad people enjoyed it, but man, just, it's not that serious guys. It was just a little bit of fun. - There was a lot of like fluff that got cut out. Shout out to Mudan for editing that and going through, Jesus, how much footage did we have? - 100 hours of footage. - Like 100 hours between us. 'Cause it was like, we had the six GoPros. - It was like one terabyte of footage.

- We had six GoPros, so two GoPros between each of us and then also the handy cams and whatever. And the GoPro in the camera, the GoPro in the car as well, which is,

That's why it took so long. We filmed that in October. That's why the production took so long. For our next special, we probably won't like scale up until we have like a super, super big idea. Maybe try something a bit smaller, you know? - Yeah, I feel like at this rate, it's just gonna get like bigger. It's gonna turn into like a Mr. Beast type of content if we don't scale back a little bit. - I mean, 'cause we're the ones

mainly arranging this as well. So we have to come up with all the equipment we needed to figure everything out. And so like, it's quite a lot to do it for all of us. - Like I kind of realized this when we were doing the thing and then Connor's tire popped and every comment was just like, wow, I can't believe they didn't plan for like a spare tire or something like that. And yeah, in hindsight, it sounds fucking stupid, doesn't it?

But you have to understand that most of our planning went into how the fuck are we going to power six GoPros on our bicycles when we have one car and none of us near each other. So we were trying to figure out the logistics of trying to get this filmed. And that's where- - The last thing we were expecting was a pop-top. - Yeah, these bikes were like extra heavy 'cause we had like duct tape the shit out of stuff to it. Like there was like portable batteries strapped to these bikes.

- Just to like keep the GoPros running. - And also GoPros are such fickle things. They're amazing when they work, but the moment like there's any heat, they just stop working. - Yeah, because we realized this during the drifting special because people look at this content and think they don't see the fucking effort and logistics that goes into this. 'Cause I didn't think about this until I had to go out and film it. - Yeah, they just think, oh, just buy some cameras and attach them to turn them on. - So with the drifting special, a lot of Connor's footage just got lost. - Yeah, so like-

- It's a shame 'cause like the way when I was doing like the sick donuts, like all of that footage was lost 'cause the GoPro just overheated in like five minutes. - It was like 900 degrees inside the car. - Yeah, because it's an oven in that thing and mine turned off. Luckily your guys' worked. - Mine kept dying in the second half. - Yeah, it just sucked 'cause like all you get to see is an outsider shot. It doesn't even look like I'm in the car doing the fucking thing and you missed all like me getting fucking hyped screaming. - Spoiler, it was a stunt double. - Yeah, exactly. That's what it looks like. It could look like a stunt double. I'm so sad. I'm like, that's my trip.

- Like I recently watched this horror movie with Sydney. I don't remember the name. It's a Korean horror movie, right? But the premise of this horror movie is that there's this company who basically does live stream content, right? And so this company hires a bunch of people from the public to live stream going into this like haunted

haunted asylum and live streaming their experiences there. And so I was watching this movie and they had this like jank set up with some GoPros that were apparently like live streaming to this base camp that was like a literal camp that they had set up outside this mental asylum, right? And when I was watching this, I couldn't get invested in the movie 'cause I felt like that guy doing like YouTuber reacts to YouTuber movies, right? And all I could see in the back of my head was,

These GoPros don't even have any spare cameras. Fucking lie there. They were like live streaming for five hours or something like that. - Two out of 10, not realistic. - Yeah, yeah, there's no way that would work. Also, how are they getting signal in this mental asylum? There's no way the stream would be this clean while they were streaming. - Where's their 5G Twitch backpacks? - Exactly, where are they? They didn't even have the fucking 5G Twitch backpacks. Like this is fake movie, two out of 10.

- Oh my God. I mean, I'd like to do something like that, but like just, you know, the fucking effort it would take to just try and organize the technicalities behind that just sounds like a nightmare in and of itself. - Yeah. I mean, to me, Twitch, like IRL streamers are just built different. I don't know. Like I think you have to be-

another level of like masochist, I think. To me it seems like, why would you want to just be embarrassed in public? - Yeah, yeah. - Like constantly. I don't mind doing it for a video every now and then. - Yeah, but like having it constantly on, 'cause at least in a video when you're out there filming, when you're out and about there filming, at least you can like edit it so it's the most interesting things that happened on the day. But if it's an IRL stream, you see everything. And I'm just, and it's just,

especially when you're not even in the safety of your own home either. You're out there in public, people can see you, people can judge you. And to me, that's just a level of like, that's the dystopian future that I don't want in my life. I don't know. - Yeah, I got it wrong. - I was saying like, not to mention like in Japan, especially where people are already fucking,

way too wary about filming in public, right? I don't know how you can just like rock up to an Izakaya full of people and just be like, yeah, I'm just gonna put this camera here and just start talking. - I couldn't do that either. I don't know, I haven't tried it, but like,

I don't know how I would get over that mental barrier of just going to around restaurants, like having the phone in front of me and just talking to the phone. - I'm too British, I can't do that. The thought of going into just a place and doing that is like, what? - Just like on the street as well. I don't get how like J-Voguers for instance, can like just be walking on the streets by themselves. Just have a camera like this and be like, all right guys, so we're gonna go to blah, blah, blah.

have people staring at you the entire time. - I've done that and it looks like a fucking hostage video. I'm like fucking talking down to the camera like, "Yo, what's going on people?" - Some people are just like, "Yep, hello, hello." - The giant selfie stick outwards going, "This is everyone in Ikebukuro right now talking out." Like, I don't know. I mean, to me it's like, you know, and I watch some of these IRL streams 'cause I'm quite interested in it myself and I think like, "Oh, maybe I could do it sometime."

- You know, when I watch it, I'm like, okay, cool. They did like one cool thing in the day and the rest of it, like a lot of the time they were just being like sitting there asking their chat, like, what do you guys want to do? What do you guys want to do? What should we do guys? And it's like, all right. And then everybody get what the appeal was. Cause most of the time real life's pretty fucking boring. You're just like traveling or waiting. - Yeah, exactly. - I think though in this day and age, I feel it's a type of content that is like really sought after. - Maybe right now I can understand that. But before that I'm like, why would you want to watch someone just kind of like wait

and sit around all day and maybe do something interesting for one hour. - Because it's like, you're really there. - I get it in COVID times though. - Isn't this some kind of like black mirror-esque shit that we're getting on though? Like, I don't wanna have a day myself. I'm gonna watch someone else have a day and I'm gonna give them money. - It's literally that fucking meme image of, you know, that kid sitting in front of like the poster and being like, every podcast be like. - That's literally what that is. - That just keeps getting posted on our subreddit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's literally what that is. - 'Cause like for me, like,

I feel awkward if I have a hands-free set and I'm just in public and I'm on the phone. Sometimes I have a hands-free set and I have the phone up to my face to look like I'm talking on the phone as opposed to talking to myself. I don't know. - Yeah, 'cause the other day I had to go buy like some eyelashes for Aki. So I went to like the local pharmacy. - Was it this one? - Yeah, the local pharmacy and I was like, "Fuck, I don't know which one she wants." So I tried to like,

take some pictures and send them being like, pick out which one it is. And she just fucking calls me and is like, just show me.

So I had to like flip the camera and I'm just doing this while talking on a hands-free set. And these old women are looking at me like, "What the fuck is this guy doing?" - They probably understood you were in the eyelashes. - It's like filming eyelashes and being like, "Which one?" - I don't know why I find like only IRL content is where it feels a little Black Mirror-y to me, a little weird. I don't know why. Like no other type of content makes me feel in that weird kind of, this is like, no other content makes you feel like this is too far.

Like IRL, just something about it. Sometimes I'm watching it, I'm like,

- Well, because I feel that like if you stream in like say a studio like this, right? There's like a performative side to it. It's almost like a stage or like a set up. - Like there is literal sets that we perform in. - But sitting down for like three hours at an Izakaya while like having a casual beer is a little too realistic. - You know what as well, like I saw a lot of them, like a lot of them get like drunk a lot of the time and that's like the audience loves that. They love it when they get drunk 'cause they're like, oh, they could fuck.

they could see stuff. So the audience constantly eggs them into drinking more. - Yeah, people are like waiting for the next stream fail. - And I'm like, fuck, that's a horrible relationship to have with your viewers where they just want to see you fucking fuck everything up. - I feel like even though it's an IRL stream, when we're streaming, we do have this performative side to us that we just talked about that we feel like we want to be, we want something interesting to happen or we at least want an interesting conversation to happen. So I feel like it's a very,

I don't know, like unhealthy kind of like relationship to have with your viewers at that point because

your best interest is for something to happen. So you are in this performative side. And I've talked to a few IRL streamers who have done things on their streams, which they probably wouldn't have done if nobody was watching. - Right, you definitely get that fake confidence in the stream watching you. - I mean, isn't that where like the whole generalization of fan bases of IRL streamers being like super toxic? - They're pretty fucking toxic.

Like I know a couple of viral streamers in Japan as well. And you know, they're all lovely people, you know, off stream. But I think it's because of the fact that they have this really toxic and, you know, quite aggressive type of audience that loves to egg them on to make them do stupid shit or, you know, fail in some way that they kind of get dragged into that. And then, you know, hate to say it, a lot of them on stream turned into a bit of an asshole, but that's also because, you know, you have,

sometimes tens of thousands of people being like, "Yeah, do this thing that makes you look like an asshole for our entertainment." - It's kind of unfortunate 'cause it's like, if you're being an asshole, but your audience is enjoying it and they're egging you on, you can almost get lost in the fact that, "No, I don't think I'm being an asshole. I think I'm just being entertaining. Right? Right? Right? I think so." - But then you see them, when you talk to them one-on-one, you realize, "Oh, they're actually quite good."

- They're nothing like they are on stream. - They're really nice most of the time. - I don't know, maybe I'm overgeneralizing. I don't know. I haven't met many, but the ones I have met are very different to how they act on stream. - Yeah, I only really know like a few who are like exactly the same, but I feel it's a rare breed. - Yeah, but I feel I completely agree with you with like IRL stream content being the black mirror kind of content as opposed to any other stream kind of content in my opinion. And I'm not sure why, maybe it's because

it's literally is like kind of like a slice of life where it feels a bit too intimate. - I feel especially when it's those IRL streams where it's like, it's not the camera pointing at the person, but it's like shot in POV. - Yeah, yeah. - Like that shit especially is like, whoa.

- It is weird. It just makes you think like, where's it gonna go from here? Like what's the next step? 'Cause there's gonna be a next step and like, I'm just- - It's only gonna one up itself. - Yeah, yeah, which is why I'm like, I wonder where it's gonna go. It's really interesting. - Streaming my wife's pregnancy. - Kinda scary. - Honestly, I could see that happening. - Streaming my child's birth.

- Streaming my child's conception. Dad reacts to childbirth. - It's like those fucking- - Oh, there it is. - Those families on YouTube that have like more kids 'cause more kids is more clickbait. Pregnancy is clickbait. - It's more content. - Oh my God. I just got reminded of that video you found the other day, Connor, about the what's in your pocket

- It's a bum challenge, bro. What was it? - Yeah, 'cause I mean, I follow like Justin Wang on Twitter. I don't know if you follow Justin Wang. This man fucking- - He loves retweeting the most cursed shit ever. - This man fucking retweets and posts the cursed shit. And I thought this has gotta be a troll. But there's literally a series on YouTube of people being like, "Is that a dildo or a dick in my ass?"

on YouTube. No joke. This isn't a joke. I know it's disgusting. And like, I watched it. Cause I was like, this can't be real. - I thought it was a meme. - I thought it was a meme. I was like, there's no way this could be true. - This was like the can Goku beat AIDS meme. That we thought was just a Photoshop picture. - And then you go in and you have a look and they're like literally he's fucking doing it. And I'm like, this is on YouTube. What the fuck?

- What is this? - And then they're just like, "He, he, oh yeah, I think that's your dick." And it's like, "What is happening? What world are we in? This is insane." - It's just like that moment of disbelief where you just, you can't quite believe that this kind of content has just, we've gotten to the point where we can post something like this on YouTube and it's just, it's not even a meme anymore. - We went to fucking like equals three to this shit. What the fuck happened? What happened?

Who came up with this genre? It's a genre. More than one people is doing it. - Is it an actual genre? - More than one person has done this challenge. - It's like a dead ass like YouTube challenge. Like pass it on, tag the next creator who was gonna do a new, what's in my bum challenge. - And before someone was like, oh, do this 'cause it's like, 'cause it was like, oh,

People are gonna be like, bro, just 'cause you're saying 'cause it's like dudes do it. No, if it was fucking women and guys doing it too, it's fucking weird. - It doesn't matter. - Why is it on YouTube? - I think what killed me was just how straight they were playing it. There wasn't any irony. There was zero irony. There was zero sarcasm in what they were doing. They were just like,

- Well, I think it's your dick, but I can't trust my bum anymore. - Please don't watch this. It is literally what I- - It's the most cursed, one of the most cursed videos. - It's so fucking cursed. - I love that we went from like, you know, reaching into a box to see what it is to just like, let's replace the box, but with the anus. - Remember when Fine Bros or TV shows were like, is it jelly or a spider?

- Is it a dick? Is it a dildo or my dick? - I'll never tell. - I can't wait for the next step, which is like, which operation are we performing on you? Is it a vasectomy or a colonoscopy? You tell me. And it's like, oh, okay. I think I'm being like, my penis is being surgically removed. What is happening?

- The fuck? How can YouTube crack down on dumb shit and then just leave this shit up? This is insane. I couldn't believe it. - Is it a mouth, an owner hole or a vagina sponsored by Tenga? Like where did we go from here? - Yeah, like obviously you did the video where you reviewed sex toys. - Yeah, but we didn't actually like stick it. - Yeah, it's like you're under the table, you're like, "Oh, this is fantastic, this is rather lubricant." - It's not like I went up to Garnet's like, "Is it a Tenga or is it my mouth?"

- I'll never tell. - I feel like there's a clear line in which we should be crossed. - Honestly, like when, so yeah, for those of you who don't know, Joey did a video where we review Tenga products. - Great video, check it out. - Great video, great video. I found it funny 'cause Joey didn't really tell me what we were doing until the day of filming. So in the back of my mind, I was just like,

is Joey just gonna make me like go behind a curtain and just like try this shit out? Like, what am I doing today? Like how ballsy for we going in on this? - Straight up testing out. - Yeah, 'cause Joey was just like, yo, you wanna go test out some tangos? And I'm just like, yeah, sure. In what capacity are we testing them out, Joey? - Just boys hanging out. - Just boys hanging out. Just another night with the bros, you know? Cranking a cold one with the boys. - Fucking degenerates.

- That was a great video. - We didn't do that by the way. - I just can't believe that video got made. Like that had to be like filmed, edited at no point in the process. People think, is this too much? - No, the thing, it wasn't just a one part series. - It was multiple. - It's a multiple part series. And it obviously did really well because everyone just can't believe. - Obviously it did really well 'cause who's not gonna fucking click on that when you see that? - It's actually- - 'Cause it's so absurd. You're gonna be like, what is this? This can't be real. Oh my God, it's real.

- Don't watch it. - Please, please, please do not. - But it exists. - Do not watch this. - I've never felt dirty just looking up a YouTube, typing something into my YouTube search history. - I did watch a little bit of it. - I did too. - And it was fucking hilarious. Like I just found it really, really funny. - It would be great on PornHub. It would be great funny jokes. - If it was on PornHub, fantastic meme. Fan-fucking-tastic meme. On YouTube, you're just like,

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♪ Auto parts ♪ - Moving out of this, what is some of the most cursed shit you have seen on YouTube? I'm actually curious now because I know- - That's probably honestly the most cursed thing I've seen on YouTube. - It's pretty cursed. - It's pretty fucking up there. - I mean, that is definitely up there, but- - I mean, if we're talking like classic cursed content, like, you guys ever watched, no, you ever watched like "Pizza Time"?

- No. - Have you seen that one? - No, what's that? - It's this video from like, I don't even know when it's made. - Sounds familiar. - But it's basically these like a bunch of dudes, like you watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right? - Yeah. - You know how they're like obsessed with pizza. - Yeah. - So it's basically like a shit post on that, but it's basically this like,

explaining it is so weird, but it's basically just like a bunch of dudes dressed up in Ninja Turtle cosplay. And then they like whip out their like fake dicks and like Jack off onto this like pizza. - What? Have you not seen it? - No. - This is on YouTube. - It's on YouTube. - Wait, I gotta know. Are they Australian? - No. - American? - I have no idea. No, the video is silent. That's the most cursed thing about it. Yeah. - What? - The entire video is silent.

And it's easily the most, I don't even remember where- - Choose your own soundtrack. - Yeah, I don't even remember where I fucking saw it. But like, it was one of those like, you know, fucking curse content that made us rounds on, you know, it's like fucking meat spin and that kind of shit, right? But it was on YouTube instead of our own dedicated website. - I feel like we don't really have

intentionally cursed content. - Don't look it up, by the way. - Please don't look it up. - You don't really see it often as the way it used to be. I don't know. It used to be like kind of a like bonding experience if you'd watch cursed content. But now it doesn't feel that much. Now I just think like, I feel like everyone just thinks you're a fucking weirdo if you watch that shit. - I mean, it's kind of true though. - Yeah, that's true. - It doesn't matter if you do it on your own or do it as a group, it's still weird. - Yeah. I mean, I remember when YouTube went through the point where pretty much you can say anything was a prank and just like, and just get away with it. - Yeah, the fucking prank thing.

- Like, let's just physically assault someone and call it a prank. - The fuck was his name? What was his name? No, Sam Pepper. - Oh God, yeah. - You remember that guy? - What was it? He used to be an IRL streamer as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He did the prank where he murdered- - He killed his best friend, yeah. - Wait, what? - Do you remember that? Have you seen that one? - So he did a prank where he would kidnap two of his friends, and then he would pretend to kill one of them in front of the other friend, and it was a prank.

- Are you serious? This is a thing? - No, no, I'm serious. - It was just a huge deal. - It was huge, yeah. People were on his ass about it. - And rightly so. - Yeah. - That's pretty fucked up. - And it's like in the video, like you just see this like dude, like in a fucking like bag over his head, just like getting fake shot, right?

- What? - And the guy- - No, this is a Black Mirror episode. There's no way this is real. - And the other friend is like strapped to the chair and is just fucking breaking down crying. And he's like, "Ha ha, it's just a prank, bro." - You just thought his best friend got murdered. So of course, naturally, your natural response is to freak the fuck out. - Yeah. - Ha ha, just mentally scarred my best friend for life.

- Just the prank, what? - Honestly, it was fucked. - Well, it reminds me of that, like the recent news that broke where someone actually got shot or got murdered in America or something because they were filming like a prank video, right?

- Oh, that's right. And they were like approach- - They were like fake mugging people or something. - Yeah, that was it. - Really? - Yeah, yeah. I can't remember the exact details of the story, but there was this kid or something who like was just pretending to mug people or like, yeah, rob people. - How do you pretend to mug someone? - I just go up to them with a knife, play the YouTube royalty through, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

- Kevin MacLeod on speaker. - I'm taking your money. - The ukulele, we'll sell the ukulele. There's a guy in the background playing. - I mean, there's unfortunately more than one body and now when it comes to YouTube pranks gone wrong or whatever. - Wait, wait, so what happened to the guy getting like,

- He went up to some guy and the guy fucking pulled a gun and shot him. 'Cause he was trying to mug him. - Oh my God. - Yeah, it was awful. - I mean, rightly so. I mean, it was self-defense. - Self-defense, yeah. - I mean, it's- - What the fuck did you think was gonna happen? - To me, it seems so odd.

- You're literally in America. Everyone has a gun. - I mean, it's not even just in America, in any fucking country. What can you expect? - Any country you just pull a fucking knife out. - Other than just getting beat the fuck out. - I'd be like, "What's off?" I mean, come on, man. - This episode is sponsored by Ritual. - We deserve to know what we're putting in our bodies and why. - You're right.

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It's funny how we've talked about like online privacy so much on this podcast. - Yeah, we have talked about it a lot. - Yeah, we've talked about it a lot. And sometimes I feel like we're beating a dead horse because we're just like, yeah, you know, we have a lot of crazy stories. So it kind of surprises me when there are still some people out there, despite how many times we've talked about it, will do some not pretty,

- Pretty not cool stuff. Yeah, I mean, so if you haven't been following my Twitter, so yeah, someone tried to leak some monk photos that I had, which were private on my mom's Facebook. And yeah, I mean, I said this on my Twitter longer, but I purposely didn't release it because I'm fine people knowing

that I was a monk and memeing that aspect, just memeing the knowledge or whatever. But I was just like, I kept that part private because there were like quite intimate photos. It's like a religious ceremony. So I didn't want that part of my life to be memed. - 'Cause when you were initially told the story, I remember after it, you were like, "Yeah, boys, I don't wanna share a photo." - I'm pretty sure he said it on the clip. - Did you?

- Like I'm pretty sure on the clip we were like, I think one of us said like, oh, we'll put the pictures and then Garnt was like, no, I don't want to put the pictures up. - Oh yeah, I think I might've said that. - Maybe so like that. - It's been a while. - Yeah, it's been a while. - Basically I remember it being like, you didn't want to share the pictures and we were like, sure, yeah, sure. - Yeah, sure, whatever. - Have a nice day. - I understand, have a nice day. And it's become a meme, I'm completely fine with Garnt being the monk has become a meme. But yeah, someone,

- Someone literally stalked my mum's Facebook, which there's a difference between if I fucked up and there's some part of my private life that I forgot to private. It's still an asshole move, but as a public figure, you can expect that people are gonna try and dig into your past and everything like that. - Which is fucked in and of itself. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, we can talk about that.

that we kind of had to expect that, but you kind of do have to expect that. But it just felt dirty that someone tried to stalk my family, especially like my close family members. - Yeah, that's actually fucked. - Yeah, and like these are really old pictures as well. So they would have had to go back years and years worth of like my mom's pictures that she had posted. - It's creepy to think someone's just scrolling. - How bored are they?

I don't know. And like all this, all this for a meme. It's like that Thanos meme, like all this for like a single meme. - It was sad as well, the person knew that they were being scummy as well. They even like self-admitted that they were being scummy. - It's like, "Ha ha ha, yeah, I know this is scummy, lol." It's like, no. - Because I feel like, you know, we literally talked about this last week where, you know, the barrier of privacy between reality and what's entertainment is like slowly, slowly,

drifting apart and slowly being erased. And I don't know, it feels weird finally experiencing that for myself and being in the crossfire. - Yeah, it sucks. I mean, I had to like tell my parents, I was like, you know,

'Cause luckily my parents, they're mega boomers. So they think that Facebook is the plague and always has been. So they never signed up to it. But I still have to tell them like, listen, if anyone asks you questions about me or like anything private about me or tries to get anything, just tell them like, okay, don't answer it. Just tell them to ask me. Even if it's like someone claiming to be like a government agency, which like, I think somebody, I can't remember who called them up and asked, somehow got my parents' number or something and were like trying to ask them questions about me.

And I was like, don't answer anything. If the police want me, the police will find me. You know what I mean? - They'll go to you, not the parents. - Anyone who claims to be anything, don't fucking tell them anything. It's sad that you have to do that, right? It's sad that the thought, I think it's just really sad that I would rather be harassed like a hundred times personally than my parents be harassed once. You know what I mean? I just couldn't. - 'Cause they got nothing to do with it. Why do they have to get involved, right? - It's hard enough raising me as it was, right? Like let alone.

- The little shit that you are. - The little fuck that I was. I don't wanna have to give them extra work after. They're trying to enjoy retirement. - It's been kind of funny seeing the transition between like my parents at least, 'cause my parents were like really technologically illiterate.

And I've had to basically teach them everything. But it's been funny seeing the transition between them, like not understanding social media at all and just like not using it at all. And then it's transitioning that to like transitioning that to most of my family now use Facebook. Remember when Facebook was just like a cool kids thing and like the parents didn't get it. - I think my parents are still in that.

- They still take it that way. - Yeah, 'cause it was really funny 'cause I remember one day, 'cause we are all grown up on the internet and especially I've been doing YouTube and social media for like a long time. One day my mom phones me up and this was when I had stopped using Facebook by this point. Most of my online life has gone to Twitter because that's my job and everything. But my parents had just started really getting into Facebook

and being that parents who tag you in everything, comment on people's photos, properly involved. And I remember she phones me up one day and she goes, "Gant, someone left a mean comment on one of my photos. What do I do?" I'm just like, "What do you mean, mom? What do you mean, what do you do?" And she's like, "I don't know what to do. It makes me feel sad. I kind of want to reply." And I'm just like,

- Mom, do not do this. Do not reply right now. Do not get involved in this. - That is the one thing you should not do. - It was just funny because like years ago, she's like, just ignore all the mean comments online. Just don't worry about it as the parents do because as a parent watching a kid do social media and do YouTube, you just don't get it. You see comments, you're just like, these comments don't mean anything, right?

But it was funny seeing my parents who had never been into social media go through the same cycle that we had to go through being like, what is a mean comment? Why are people commenting mean things on me? This doesn't make sense. You know what? I'm gonna reply. I'm going to give the trolls everything they want. - At least your mom wasn't like, do you know the number to the cyber police? I need to report a crime.

- My mom's really smart about it. 'Cause she's been using, do you know about this website called Mixi? I don't think it's around anymore, but basically it's like, it's really old web. It's basically like the old Japanese version of like MySpace or like Facebook and stuff like that. I don't even think it's around anymore. Basically my mom's been like using that. So like she's had a pretty good understanding of like, you know, privacy can be very easily leaked on the internet if you're not careful.

My mom has openly told me, she's like, "Yeah, I follow you on Twitter and Instagram, but you'll never know which account is mine."

- That's some Death Note shit. She's like, doo doo doo doo doo doo. - She's like, 'cause she just uses a completely separate name and doesn't use any photos and stuff like that. And I'm like, I'm glad that she understands that if she used her real face and name, that could lead to a whole lot of problems. Meanwhile, my dad is like fucking openly comments on my videos and being like- - That's my son, that's my boy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I remember one time he's like, "Did you see the comment on your latest video?" And I'm like, "No, I get thousands of comments every day." And he's like, "Oh, okay, I'll send you a screenshot of it." And he's like, "Oh, you might've missed it because I don't use my name on it." But instead, he didn't use his name on it, right? It's like a completely different username. But I knew immediately it was my dad because the comment starts with, "Hey, son."

That's pretty good. It's like, hey son, I really like this video. The editing was done really well.

It's like, you'll never know it's me. - That's so fucking wholesome. I don't know why that's so fucking wholesome. - Yeah, but the problem is that like when I was still using Facebook back in the day, like, you know, again, like my mom would use a completely like separate name, right? So like, you know, it was fine or whatever, but my dad would not only use his real name, but would also comment on every fucking thing I posted always starting with, "Hey son."

- Hey guys, Joey's dad here. - And so like, and so I had to like, and so like one day he came in being like really upset at me being like, why'd you block me on Facebook, son? I'm like, 'cause you keep fucking

Stop commenting, stop opening a comment with, "Hey son." - Your dad sounds like such a fun guy. - No, he's a great guy, don't get me wrong. But like I had to literally block him on every social media just because he kept fucking doing that. And now the only- - You're the number one harasser as you know. - And now the only way I can get in contact with my dad is get this through email. - Through email.

- You got like a number or something? - No, no, I have his number or whatever, but obviously because it's international, it costs a bit of money, right? And so I was like, "Hey dad, you should start a Line account." 'Cause everyone in Japan has Line. Everyone in my family has Line, right? If you guys don't know, Line is like Facebook Messenger for Asia. It's just a messaging app that we use in Japan a lot. So I was like, "You should start Line." And he's like, "Oh, I don't wanna start another social media." So I'm like, "Dad, it's not a social media. It's just a messaging app." And he's like, "All right, all right, fine, I'll do it."

And so I added him and I messaged him and it was like three months later, he came back being like, "What's up, son?" So I was just like, "All right, I guess I'm just sticking to email now with my dad. If my dad ever needs anything, I'd just be like, "Just email me." It's urgent, I gotta email him right now. Urgent, hey son.

Now every one of your comments on every one of your videos is gonna start with "Hey, son." - I mean, that's good because- - I love the Tenga- - Yeah, yeah. - No, I guess that's good then 'cause then now I'll truly won't know which one my dad is. The comment section is all gonna be my dad. He's gonna have to try and find some like a new phrase to go with it now. - Say, "Hey, boy." - "Hey, boy."

- I love you dad, I'm just joshing. - What were we talking about? Internet privacy? - I guess internet privacy. I mean, I don't know. Like I've never, I guess this is the first wake up call for me that I've had to really think about my internet privacy. It took me way too long to make my Facebook private. That should have been the first stage. But I think the problem with internet like celebrities or whatever nowadays is that

- There's a difference between say, someone who's signed to a big film or someone who gets picked up by a music label, like old school celebrities who there was this system by which they got picked up and they knew they were gonna be famous. But the problem is anyone can be famous now. Anyone can have their privacy leaked and not really think about the consequences of really going through their entire fucking past and just making it private or making it not public because

we were teenagers. We don't remember every fucking sites that we signed up to. My God, like I don't know how many one of my like old forum, like old anime forum profile pictures are still like public or whatever, you know? 'Cause I signed up to a lot of sites back then 'cause I was a teenager, but it's something that,

you don't really think about when you don't make content on the internet because you don't, no one really expects to be famous or no one really expects to have an audience or anything like that. And I feel like I do wonder if like the newer generation is gonna think about this whenever they do anything or if we're just gonna continue to be stupid kids that don't really think about anything. - I would like for it to be the first option if I'm being honest, just 'cause like, you know, again, it's like,

I think that whole pre-notion of like, yeah, you know, you should expect your privacy to be, you know, hacked and slashed into it because- - People talk like that, that weirds me out. - It's like, what is it about suddenly being, you know, quote unquote famous, you know, regardless of how you view, you know, fame to be where it's suddenly like, oh, well, you know, you have a presence on the internet that you share openly with a large audience. So that means that, you know,

You don't have a privacy anymore. If it's on the internet, it's not private anymore. - It's literally like the same argument as like old school paparazzi. Have you ever seen any fucking interviews with like any paparazzi photographer? It's the most- - They're all assholes. - Yeah, it's the most like you will see these people openly being assholes and they're just,

they're proud of it. They're fucking proud of it. Like I think I remember the last one I saw was I think Anthony's like sitting down with a paparazzi. - I saw that one. - Literally everyone he interviewed was just the biggest class they all saw. - Yeah, because you know, they do the whole bullshit of like, oh, if I don't do it, someone else is gonna get it. And it's like, how about none of you fucking do it?

And it sucks 'cause like I think 99% of people, again, who are watching this are like super chill, don't like think that way. All it takes is that 1% to just make your life happen. - Yeah, yeah. - And that's unfortunate, right?

'Cause I don't have any resentment to my audience or anything like that. Most of them are super fucking nice. - Exactly. - Just a fucking shame that some people are just like, "I'm gonna fucking ruin this man's life." - It's a shame that you have to change your behavior for literally 1% of the people watching you. And you know that most of everyone that you interact with is just gonna be a generally nice,

And then it just sucks that there's that small percentage that unfortunately it's that small percentage that ruins it for everyone.

And I guess that's just the world in general, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. But you know, we'd be living in the utopia if everyone was being honest and kind. - We'd have flying cars. - We'd have flying cars by now. That's not the case right now. Some of us are still walking on the ground. - Big sad. I was watching this video the other day and it was like,

- "Blues Clues" believe it or not. - "Blues Clues" and now trust me, this is related back to the show. - Okay, okay, okay. - So, did you watch "Blues Clues" when you were growing up? - Of course. - What's "Blues Clues"?

- All right, so Blue's Clues is this TV show and it was basically this guy who was like talking to the camera, kind of like Dora style. I think this is where it started, this kind of style. Maybe he didn't know, but it's definitely popularized. - Yeah, popularized. - Where there would be like a task and there was this notebook and they'd have to do X amount of tasks. It was a really good show actually. - And there was a dog called Blue. - Yeah. - Okay. - And so the dog would help Steve? - Steve, yeah. - Steve find all the clues. - Right.

- Yeah, so I always wondered, I was like, why did he stop doing it? 'Cause if you watch the show, he basically swaps halfway through the show with another actor. I thought, oh, that's weird. Why did that happen? So it turns out that he was losing his hair and that he didn't want to like go bald on like TV. - Okay. - Right, right. So, and then I was like, fuck.

That hit me. I was like, oh my God. 'Cause like, I mean, okay. There's like tons of comments about it and it's like, it's frustrating 'cause like I don't really give a shit anymore. Like I've gotten over it. But like, unfortunately my dad did not give me a lucky dice roll with my genetics and I am going bald eventually. It's gonna happen. And obviously it's been happening a little bit and it's so frustrating that people will like go to other videos and be like, Connor, did you know you're balding?

- The key pointing it out. - And it's so frustrating 'cause the thing that bothers me is that like, again, like I fully accepted that it's happening. I know people are gonna be like, "Have you tried doing this? "Have you tried fucking doing voodoo?" And it's like, "Yes." - Trying doing voodoo? - 'Cause people are always like, "Hey, take-" - Just try wishing the bowling away. - 'Cause people are always like, "Hey man, just take these drugs, do these things." It's like, "Yeah, okay." I've honestly like done all that, tried all that, unfortunately. Like I can't do surgery either, so whatever. And so I just kind of got to the point where I was like, "All right, I think I've tried enough things where I'm like, "this fucking sucks." But,

it can't really do much about it. And so I kind of got over it, but it's really frustrating. Like I said, when people go to other videos and be like, bro, you're balding. It's like, I am aware, but it's frustrating that sometimes I feel like edit videos differently. Cause it's like, all right, if I don't edit this part out, people are gonna comment about this instead of the fucking video. - And only comment about that. - Yeah, it's like, I just wanna focus on the video and it's so frustrating. People feel the need to point it out. Cause it's like, why?

- Yeah, I mean, I know exactly how you feel because I too have not been the luckiest with my gene pool. - Joey, I envy your perfect hair. - So like pretty much everyone on my dad's side who's a male is bald. - Same, same, yeah, it kinda sucks. - And it's something that I knew was always going to happen. - But you don't think it's gonna happen. - I mean, as like when you're a teenager, you're just like, I'm the exception.

- Cause your hair's like when you're like 18, your hair's like whoosh. - It's lush. - Fuck man, my hair's so thick. - It's thick as fuck and I'm just like, you think I'm the exception to the rule. And I remember, you know, I've seen like my entire family on my dad's side, everyone's bald. So I asked my dad, I've seen like pictures of my dad when he was young and he had hair down to here, man.

- Or had drip. - But yeah, he had a fucking luscious lot of hair and I saw what it looks like now. And I'm just like, so dad, when did you start losing your hair? Just out of curiosity. So just so I can take a look and take a look at my own hair. And he goes,

- I guess late 20, 30 year old. And I asked this when I was 28, I was like, "Fuck, dad, why didn't you tell me earlier? For fuck's sake, yo." - This is why I had a feeling like it's probably gonna happen to me. But like, I didn't like quite know, but then I realized, okay, my older brother was like 10 years older than me, was going bald. And I was like, "Oh shit, starting to sweat a little bit."

- You've seen a prior example. - Yeah, and like, you know what? I totally get why kids think it's funny to like mock hairlines 'cause you just think like, it's never gonna happen to me. Bro, I've got hair, my hair is fucking luscious right now. It's never gonna happen to me. But it does. - Oh yeah, of course. - What is it like fucking two out of three, especially if you're white, I think two out of three men get like some signs of hair loss or whatever. But I remember like, I thought, okay, if it happens to me at 30, no biggie.

By then I'll probably be chilling out. I'll be settling down. When I was like 21,

Like 20, I started to notice just a little bit. It's getting a little bit thin and I'm like, what's going on with that, huh? Better put a time out to that. So even when I was like 20, I started like trying to do things to like help it. It was like taking all the fucking FDA approved, all that bullshit. But unfortunately for some people, it is purely just genetics. - You can't find the genetics. - Yeah, you're just fucked. Like some people that helps and like, you know, you do a lot of research, you look into it. Some guys,

you might be in a place where maybe the building you're living in has like really bad case of like damp or something that's fucking with your hair. So some people who, you know, their living conditions are the reason why they're losing their hair. But no, unfortunately, as much as I wished I could do something about it, it was just kind of like whatever. And it's yeah, I guess the main reason why I just thought, fuck it, I'll just talk about it.

- I've gotten to the point now where I just don't really give a fuck. - People are pointing out anyway. - Oh yeah, people point it out. - It's not gonna stop. I feel like if we just say something, people can at least be courteous about it. - Especially with a growing audience, right? Newcomers are gonna come in to be like, "Oh, this is the inside meme? Okay, I'll add onto it for the millionth time." - Yeah, 'cause unfortunately, it's just kind of a thing of like, it's just something that I can't really do anything about and unfortunately people are gonna see it. 'Cause I'm not like, I'm not unfortunately- - You're not gonna wear a hat every day.

- Yeah, my videos aren't just me statically in front of the camera, never moving my head. So it's like, I'm gonna do it. - You can't go anything further than like a 90 degree angle. Otherwise that's a red zone. - Yeah, and it was like, so when I dyed my hair blonde, it wasn't that bad 'cause my scalp is like- - White.

- Yeah, pretty white. So it didn't look that bad. But it's when it starts to go brown and certain lighting, like especially studio lighting, fucking reflects that shit. So where it doesn't look too bad, if you look at me like normally in like video where the lighting is washed out, it looks fucking awful. And it's like, when I see it on video, I'm like, fuck it.

I check it and I'm like, oh, it's not too bad. Like it's whatever. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I'm pretty much at peace with it and I'll probably shave it at some point 'cause I kind of want to see how it look. - Yeah, I reckon you could. - You could rock the ball. - You could rock the ball. - You lucked out though in that regards because the one thing, no, no, no. The one thing is like, you know, like the fact that you've already accepted that you're probably gonna go bald and that you're probably gonna shave it a lot. - I already gave a fuck, it's whatever. - But at least the good thing is, is that you can grow a beard. - Yeah, true. - There is nothing weirder than a dude who is

and has a clean face. - Why you do my boy Johnny Sins like that, man? Come on, man. He's got the biggest dick in the industry. - Yeah, true. And that's why he looked like, I can't say that in front of Johnny Sins, right? 'Cause he probably smacked the dick across my face and killed me to death. But at least a beard on a bald guy,

Usually nine times out of 10 looks fucking great. You look hard as fuck. - I appreciate you trying to gas me up here, Jay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, no, but like, it's weird because like, you know, you said like, you know, I'm jealous of you, Joey, but like, I actually had the opposite because like my- - I have too much hair. - I have too much hair. - No, no, no. What a problem, guys. - It's just too luxurious. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

- Oh dude, they're like, I think my dad was bald like fucking 20. - Yeah, well see, my mom's side is exactly the same. 'Cause my granddad went bald at like 24. - Oh shit. - Yeah, so for the longest time in my like early twenties, my mom and my sister would just fucking egg me on being like, "When are you gonna get that hair? "You better enjoy that hair "while you still have it on your head, boy." And I'm like, "Oh, that hairline's receding a bit." Yeah, and like, I would like, I remember when I was like 18, I like asked my granddad being like, "How old were you when you like started to go bald?" And he was like, "Oh, like,

And I was like, that's like five years for me, fuck. But you know, obviously at that point I was like, look, if I go bald, fuck it, I'll just accept it. You know? Like I rather just like shave it all off than like leave it half-assed, right? So I'm just like, fuck it. - The more I thought about it,

'Cause I can't actually get any surgery if I wanted to, 'cause I have like a blood condition. The more I thought about it, I was like, do I really wanna just fucking desperately cling onto this? Like at the end of the day, I was like, I don't really think I give that much for a fuck where I think I need my hair to function. Like I think I'll still be fine without it. - Right, right, that's the thing, right? It's like people, like I don't understand why people are so- - People make it seem like if you lose your hair, it's gone. Because it's like a bald person, right? - Right. - I sleep.

Someone with full hair, I sleep. Balding, free real estate for bullying. - Home over. - Home over is where it's at. - Yeah, I don't know. 'Cause people, I feel like people just wanna have like, at least some comments out there, I feel like they need to have like a one up on you. They feel like they can mock you in some way. - But they keep,

mentioning it like as if like, oh, if you lose your hair, you're not funny anymore. - Since when was making fun of like something to do with like genetics, like a fucking slam dunk to me. I was like- - It's like you take the piss out of someone's look. No, no, no, too far. Boarding. Oh, free real estate.

- It's not boring. - It's the same thing. You're taking the piss out of what someone was born with. I do notice as someone who went through the phase of just accepting that they were balding, you do go through that five stages. - You do, you do. There is like the first few, I think year or two where it's happening. You're like, "No, I can reverse this. I can reverse this." - The five stages of balding.

- I think you do, right? To any guys out there. - Five stages of acceptance. First is like you, what's the word I'm looking for? - It's denial. - Denial. - First stage is denial. It's always denial. - You get denial. - It's always denial. - No, no, no, no, no. - And I'm sure this conversation will hit quite close to home to a lot of our viewers 'cause our audience is mainly dudes. If it is happening to you, don't give a fuck, man. It's whatever. - Just whatever. - You're rocking.

you can do whatever you want. - It's not like society fucking rejects you. - Yeah, because I feel like some people are, I for one, I have been bored before and I do. - You've walked it man.

but I do like my hair and I am putting in steps to, I don't expect to keep this forever, but I would like to elongate it for as long as I can. - Yeah, me too. - I'm self-aware enough to know that once it's past the point, all right, I got to accept it. - Once it's gone too far, it's gone. - But at least right now when I still have this hair, I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm gonna lose this eventually, but I am going to try and do my best

at this point to just keep it. And I don't think there's anything particularly wrong about it. There's nothing particularly wrong with either direction that you go to. I think it's more just, some people, I like the feeling of having hair. I like the feeling of washing your hair and my God, especially fucking one thing that nobody tells you about being bold. - It's pretty cold, right?

- You're either cold or if you're in a hot humid country like Thailand, fucking mosquitoes, it's free real estate. There's an extra surface area for the mosquitoes to just go fucking mental. - Just like a park that just opened, right? It's like, oh shit.

- I won't lie, I do like the idea of being able to optimize my bathing experience, which is like- - Your bathing time is like cut by half, dude. - And like when you get out, bro, you're immediately dry. That sounds amazing. You know how like in a hurry I am, I hate- - Single wipe. - Yeah. - And also like, do you use, I mean, shampoo is irrelevant, right?

- Yeah, shampoo is irrelevant. - You save so much money. - Dude, what the fuck? I hate having to find like organic fucking shampoo that isn't like full of like sulfates or some shit. But I mean, yeah, as well, I did have this thought. I was like, you know what? It's like, I don't know if this is creepy or what to some people, but I think it's kind of fucking cool that like my whole adult life is like captured in like YouTube.

Like you can see my whole, like there'll be like 19 year old me. - You can see the progress. - Yeah, there'll be like 19 year old me that is like spots and like fucking pepperoni face. And then in like 10 years, you'll see me like fully bald. - It's the glow up. - I think it's kind of,

I think it's kind of fascinating that I can have like a, you know, as cringy as it might be, I can have like a backlog that I can be like- - What I find interesting, right, is, you know, I don't know what it was like for your parents, but my parents are like pretty old right now. So there's not too many photos of,

when they were younger and like my age, especially. So, you know, I'd see photos here and there and you're just like, damn, that's what you looks like. Like, okay. But for, you know, when we have kids, we have like our entire lives just like documented. But that's true for most people. Like even above like being YouTubers, you got Facebook photos going back to like, my kid will definitely know my entire life up to like university. And like, there are some uni photos where I'm just like,

"Damn son or daughter, I don't know if I want you going through this." - Yeah, I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. I pretty much purged, I lost a lot of my photos pre-18, like on Facebook, I purged most of them. - Yeah.

'cause I hated how I looked in them. So I was like, fuck it, get rid of them. - I mean, no one likes how they looked. - Yeah, but then I thought, should I keep them? And I was like, no, I'm getting rid of them. So actually I've lost a lot of them. I pretty much have like, I would say an average amount of like that anyone would have for someone who took photos, right? But I think it's cool as an adult, I can make the choice to be like, I'm fine with having most of my like adult life essentially be documented.

I think that's kind of cool. I mean, whether my future kids think so, that's up to them. - I'm sorry for any future kid who goes through my Twitter timeline. God, I'm so fucking sorry. - I'm sure Twitter at some point will do like a big purge of like- - You think so? - Because how can you store all that shit? - The sponsor of today's episode is EJ Anime Store. - What does EJ stand for Garnt? - I've never said this before, but EJ Anime Store stands for Entertainment Japan.

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Like you said, when it comes to online media, I kind of act like a hoarder, right? Like, I don't know what I could look back. - You're a JRPG. - Yeah, exactly. I don't know what I could look back in a few years and be like, yeah, I tweeted that back in 2008 or 2000. I can't even remember when I started my Twitter, man. It's been a while. - Didn't even know Twitter was that old, to be honest. - Yeah, because I have this thing on, I don't know if you have it. I think you do, right?

where like I have this thing on my Twitter where like if the tweet is older than two months then it automatically deletes it. - I think mine's set like two years just 'cause like every time I look back at myself two years I'm like, fuck I was cringy. - Yeah, I'm like that six months ago. So I'm just like- - I like the ability to look back and be like, man, I was fucking cringy. I like the ability to look back and go, man, what the fuck was this anime zone hairstyle? What the fuck man? - I got that on YouTube. - That's what the YouTube channel is for.

- The Twitch clips, you know, all that shit. That's what that's for. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I already have like one website to like remind me of how cringy I used to be. I want like multiple websites to remind me how cringy I used to be.

- I wanna know what fucking cringy thoughts I had. It's not just pictures, I want everything. - I don't wanna go back on my personal Facebook and go back to 2010 and be like, "Oh God, why the fuck did I tweet shit out like that? Or message shit out like that?" - No, 'cause going back to the bold conversation and rocking and style and everything like that. So I remember I had to go through this exact process when I finished being a monk

And I was just bold, right? And we talked about before how, you know, you can't really, it's hard to rock a bold style when you don't have a beard or anything. I feel like it's especially hard as an Asian as well.

So like initially all I did was just like wear a beanie. And the thing about this like frail Asian kid wearing a beanie walking around, you look like a fucking cancer patient. Like that's kind of like what I look like on the outside. So I was like, I'm tired of this. I wanna at least, I wanna change my style. So I was thinking, well, what can I possibly do? And the only other style I can think of is like, what do you think of

when you think, you know, bald head shaved. You think, you kind of think of like somebody who just like a delinquent, right? - Yeah, like a skinhead. - Like a skinhead, right? So I tried to go for that look and I have a picture actually. I dug this up during the break. Let me see if I can get it. But yeah, I went for the skinhead look and for the first and only time in my life,

- I look like a complete, I look like I just came out of prison, man. - You look like Asian Jason Statham.

- That's fucking awesome. - I kind of love that. - Yeah, yeah. - That is dope as fuck. - If I saw someone walking the streets looking like that. - It's a scarf. - I had never felt like that. - It's the glasses and the scarf. - Okay, okay. This is the first and only time in my life where I felt dangerous, right? So I would...

- I would be like, I would be walking down- - People will move away from you. - No, no, exactly. I would be, 'cause I was living in China at this time, right? And so I would be walking down the streets and sometimes if it was dark, you know, I could see like groups of girls or groups of anyone just like subtly cross the road whenever I was approaching them. I was like, okay, and this one time, so I was with some friends there and it took me like to this local bar who's run by this like,

frail, you know, one of the old Asian ladies who run this local bar. - Yeah. - And so we walk in and she dead ass looks at me and I could see her have like a mini fucking heart attack. She's like, "What?" And then she goes to my mate and goes, "Sorry, we're closed right now." And my mate's like, "No, I've been here quite often. "I know this place is open." And she dead ass says to him, "I'm just not looking for trouble right now." - Oh my God.

- God's the kind of guy when you say I'm not looking for trouble. - I mean, look, I don't blame you, man. Like if I was that frail old lady, I would look at that and be like, oh, that's Chinese mafia. - Were you wearing the sunglasses and the scarf as well? - I was wearing the scarf. - Oh, that's. - Yeah, that's Chinese mafia, dude.

- I'm not dealing with that shit. - Yeah, the scarf says like, it's Louis, but I mean, you know, I kill people as well. - The scarf says like, I'm hiding tats. That's what that's saying. You don't want to see the tats I have under here. - Yeah, looking like this, it felt like, you know, that meme of that guy in the party being like, they don't know I'm a fair load anime nerd. - They don't know I kill people.

- It's like the big coat as well. It's like, yeah, I might be concealing a weapon, but I'll never tell. - This is honestly the first time I ever like tried wearing a leather jacket and I'm just like, damn, you know what? - I think you look good in leather jackets. - I like leather jackets. - Is that why you wear leather jackets a lot nowadays? - Ever since then, this is what started it. - I think it looks good on you. - Yeah, you're the only one I know where it's like, damn, he fucking kills a leather jacket.

'Cause I've seen so many people growing up who were like, "Oh, you know, I wanna get back into like the whole like 80s, like street wear spirit and you know, the punk spirit and like wear a leather jacket." And it just, it looks so lame. - Some people do look like they're just wearing their dad's clothes. - Yeah, right? - Especially the leather jackets. - Exactly. Yeah, I tried it once and I was like, "Nah, it's not for me." - Yeah, for me, the one piece of clothing I find really hard to rock is a good suit. I don't know. I don't know what it is about a suit, right?

- Love wearing suits. - Yeah, I know you love wearing suits. You use every opportunity you can to just rock up in your JoJo suit. - I'll be like, "We're all going to the grocery store, suit up, suit up." - Why not? Suits are so fun to wear, man. - It is, it is really fun to wear. - You feel like you commend a presence when you're wearing a suit, you know?

Like when I leave my house around the JoJo suit, like I go on the train, I'm like, yeah bitch, I'm wearing a suit. - 'Cause like for me, like I can rock a suit, but it really needs to be tailor-made 'cause like anything else, most like my entire life, if I just buy like this store-made suit, it just feels like I'm wearing my dad's clothes. I look like five years younger and I,

- And it's not a good five years younger. It looks like I'm back to being a teenager or something like that. - Yeah, I don't know, especially as well here, if you wear anything other than the standard businessman suit here, which is like what the Navy. - Like the Navy blue white t-shirt underneath. - It's like not really Navy, it's like dark Navy. They all wear the same goddamn suit. So when I whip out my little like, I don't know, burgundy, what color is it? Like beige? The JoJo beige suit, it stands out so fucking much. - The Giorno one.

- Yeah, and I'm like, yeah bitch, I know it's hot. - Like I forget sometimes you have, you bought two JoJo's because you only wear that one. - Yeah, because the other one is like way more formal. So it's a little harder to wear it like on like just kind of like not super serious things. - Yeah, I've got the other one, the Bucciarati one. - Yeah, I've got the one. - The navy blue.

like kind of a little more standard looking one. - It's also like a crossover. And I feel like the crossover is like more mafia or like super serious. Whereas the Jonno one, 'cause it's just like super chill. It's like beige. Beige is not a serious color. People who wear beige don't do serious things, but you look good. - Explain serious things.

- I don't know, you see someone wearing this suit. - Like people, like mafia members don't wear beige. - Here is the John No suit, here is the Bucciarati suit, right? The Bucciarati suit looks like you're killing people, you're trading in stocks that can't be bought by public citizens, you know? The John No one looks like, you know, like you have fun times, you go out for nice meals, you know? It's a different kind of atmosphere. - Yeah, I go to the girls bar every now and then.

- It's a different kind of atmosphere that it gives off. It's like wearing a three-piece. You can't just casually wear a three-piece. - But I love wearing three-pieces. - I love wearing a three-piece. - You look so fucking good in a three-piece because something, you know, I like how men's fashion, no matter how much time has passed, right? A suit and a three-piece just always looks good. That is just something that is timeless. And I don't know what it is.

Like we optimized how good guys could look like hundreds of years ago and then it just hasn't changed since then. - Yeah, the standard has always been the same. - I remember, I don't really spend much money on clothes but obviously suits quite expensive. And anyone who's bought a suit will know that. - Like a nice suit. - Yeah, like a nice suit, right? Like you can go to Primark and get the $20 suit or whatever. And it doesn't look bad actually. I remember I was telling like, I was talking about on,

on Twitch I was talking about the JoJo suits. Cause they're bringing out new JoJo suits. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna buy them all. And they were like- - The part four ones, right? - Part four ones, yeah. And they're like 500 bucks each. And I'm like, listen guys, for a suit, 500 bucks is not that much. Especially if you can go in there and get, they tailor it a little bit to you. Like, come on, these suits are fucking gorgeous. - Especially as an adult as well. Like that's just gonna last. - Yeah bro, you think,

I'm only ever wearing those JoJo suits now. - It's a one time thing only. - I'm never wearing any other suits ever. I mean, I pretty well, but you know. I mean, I'm gonna get my fucking money's worth, right? And also they're nice things. They're luxurious, man. You gotta like, you know, a good suit, you can't cheap out on. If you go to a job interview wearing a cheap ass suit,

Bro, come on. Come on. - I mean, you go to a job interview wearing a JoJo suit. - Bro, they're like- - Instant application. - Presence has been commanded when you walk in, right? - This boy's serious and he's beige. - Is he balding? Nevermind, he's got a JoJo suit. - He's got a beige suit on, he's good. - I mean, that's the thing about the suit is that it's one of the few things that you really can't cheap out on them. - No, you can't. - And you can try. I mean, like,

you can go to places like you can get a pretty cheap suit in somewhere like Thailand that's like tailor-made and everything like that. But if you don't have that luxury of buying, of going to a place where it can be made for cheap, then a cheap suit really shows like most like- - You feel it when you wear it as well. When it's a good suit, you feel like, damn,

I'm powerful. It comes off in the aura that you give off. - The aura. - It's like some Hunter, Hunter Nen stuff, right? You're like, people can feel your presence. When you're in a good suit, people know you're wearing a good suit. They feel it in the way that you act. I'm telling you, man, it's not bullshit. - That's what I do when I go buy a suit. I'm just like, excuse me, is the aura tailored in anything? - Honestly, honestly, honestly. - It's an option though. - You know it's too tailor made when they're asking questions. You're like, what the fuck are you talking about?

They're like, they're asking you stuff like, would you like this or that? And I'm like, I've never been asked that question in my life. What is that? Then they show you like, I don't care. What do you think? You're the tailor. You tell me. - Would you like two centimeters or three centimeters off your cuff? It's like, fuck, I don't know. - Yeah, like when they ask like, do you want the leg rolled up at the bottom and stitched? And I'm like, is that an option? - Just tell me what looks good. I literally have no fucking clue. - What do you think? Tell me.

- 'Cause I remember like the first time I wore a suit was for like my high school prom or something. - I think that was the first time for everybody. - That's when you get like the Primark suit. Your parents are like, "I'm not buying you a good suit." 'Cause you're not gonna get any value out of it, you little shit. - And everyone does look like they're wearing their dad's suit right now. I think it's impossible to- - Let's go, lads. - It's like that oversized suit. Oh God. - It looks so unnatural. - The good old days where you just-

- Why is it that every like 16 year old who goes to like their first prom in a suit just looks like they're just like- - 'Cause you're not comfortable in it. - Yeah, but like, it's so funny how like every photo I've ever seen either of myself or of my friends or of just complete random strangers at their proms, they all look like they're T-posing.

You know what I mean? They're like, they all, they all like, they just standing like, yes, we are at a prom. - A suit is like 50% the suit, 50% how comfortable you feel wearing the suit. Can you embody what a suit is? You know, you can't just put on a suit and be like, I guess I'm kind of like attractive.

No, you gotta believe that when you put that suit on, I'm hot. You gotta give off that aura. You gotta have faith. - But like, okay, there's always this, there's always like every time I wear a suit, right? There's always this countdown of like, when am I gonna take this jacket off? 'Cause inevitably when you go to like any celebrations or something, you're gonna get too hot in that suit. - Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

And I feel like, you know, if you're gonna take pictures or do anything, get it right at the beginning of the night because there's nothing more messy than like just the suit that you know has just been battered and damaged. And like, you can tell it's not the suit itself, it's the tie, right? Like at the beginning, you're like, you got your buttoned up right to the top button. Your tie is tight. You look fucking suave. Five hours in, God, you're a sweaty mess. That tie has taken a beating. It's like halfway down your chest.

- One thing Japan is like advanced technology in is like their business shirts are like next level. I don't know how they've done it, but Japan has like optimized the fuck out of like shirts, like business shirt. - Of course they have, 'cause everyone, every other person here is a salary man. - Yeah, I mean, I put this thing on at first and it was a little pricey. I thought, you know, I mean, I guess, you know, if I'm buying a nice suit, I'll buy a nice shirt. It's always an afterthought 'cause I always think if it's white, who gives a fuck?

Then I put this thing on, I'm like, whoa.

- It breathes, it stretches, it looks clean. It washes super easy. And I'm like, whoa, I've never like appreciated a shirt until Japan. - I remember I saw an ad for like last summer when it was like, you know, that fucking heat wave came out. And like, it doesn't matter if it's like 40 degrees or it's four degrees, people are wearing a suit. - The material feels amazing on these things. - But I remember I saw an ad which Deidaa said like, this business shirt has self cooling technology.

- I get it though. - And I'm like, it's a piece of cotton. - Some of them have like a stretchiness to it that makes it feel really like aerated. I don't know what it is. Okay, if you come to Japan, right? And you like your shirts, dead ass, you know, fuck bringing my anime figures, get some fucking Japanese shirts. Go to like Perfect Suit Factory here and just go and get some biceps. - Get that self cooling shirt. - They're legit, they're good.

- I feel like whenever Japan like advertises this new fancy technology in clothing though, it's hit or miss. 'Cause sometimes you get good things like the heat tech here, the heat tech when you go to Uniqlo and it's winter, those are fucking great. - Every country has that. - The cool shirts. - Every cold country has that. - Yeah, the cooling shirts, obviously great. I remember though recently like Uniqlo also released the, you know, this was deep during the pandemic. It was deep during quarantine. They released like their own,

Aries and masks or something like that. That was meant to like be more breathable fabric or something like that. And it got so hyped that it sold out on the first day immediately. People were queuing up to buy these masks. And I think around three months into it, I was at Uniqlo and miraculously they were just back on sale. They just come back into stock. So I was like,

you know what, I'm gonna give this a try because this has been sold out and I'm tired of my mask. So let's see how breathable this is. And it literally felt like you just worn one of those like anime knickers on your mask. - You look like underwear. - Yeah, yeah. It literally just felt like you had underwear on your face and it was a fucking lie. This thing felt like it was gonna give me asthma.

It was not breathable at all. - They have a lot of fads there here, and it's fad technology. - Wasn't there the necklace or something that was meant to prevent this threat of COVID? - Literally, I see some people wearing it, it's called Virus Out.

- Yeah. - Literally just like a necklace and everyone's wearing it. - Yeah, Aki made like an entire video about like a bunch of like coronavirus scam items and one of them was that. It's like this fucking lucky charm looking thing where it's like, "Go away virus." It was literally that energy. It's just like, it's just,

It's just a fucking like car air freshener around your neck. That's all it is. - I'd rather you not care than have that and be like, I care. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Right. - 'Cause like, at least you're not pretending at that point. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But like the fact that they're like, I saw a bunch of people who like, especially like older women,

- Of course. - Always believe in that shit for some reason, who would like wear that and be like, "Oh, I don't have to wear a mask anymore. I'm fully protected with this." - I mean, it's the same reason fucking anti-vaxxers and stuff like exists, right? Because this kind of, if you have a small enough group who trade information within that group,

then they're just gonna start believing the wildest shit sometimes. And it's a lot of like the image globally is that a lot of people, a lot of this is confined to America, but it's all over the place. - It's all over the world. - It is all over the place. - Stupidity is not confined by one type of like nationality. - Just the big difference is like it seems in America, it's just more documented.

- It's more widespread. - It's unfortunate 'cause like you said, they're stupid. I do agree they are stupid, but it's been proven, right? If you keep calling them stupid, it makes them,

- I think that you're like, you're a conspiracy. You're like, you're on the inside. - Are you working with the government? You're one of them. - But also at the same time, I don't want to sit there and humor fucking stupid ideas. So it's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't really talk about it. I don't really get involved with it. Cause I'm just like, I feel like it's a lose-lose. These people should know better. I just like to think that, like for example, if my mom one day got into something like that, that I'd like to be able to think that I could maybe talk her out of it. Like, mom, come on, mom.

- The PG tips is not poison. You can drink the tea. I'm pretty sure we'd all be dead if it, you know, just give me a fake example. It's unfortunate. - Wasn't it like the fucking in England, what like the 5G towers caused?

- That was embarrassing. That was like huge in the UK. That people were like burning down these towers. It's embarrassing. You're like, these are like, I live in the same country. These people, I went to the same schools. It's these people who burned down fucking 5G towers. - There was also that fat of like, you know, you shouldn't like when, when footwear wireless like Bluetooth headphones first came out for your phone being like, people should use those because if you, if you're on the phone like this, then the signal,

actually causes cancer. - I remember that. - You remember that? - I remember that. - Remember that fact? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And there were people, at least in Australia, like when I was growing up, there were like people dead ass being like, "Shit, I have to go and buy some Bluetooth headphones. I don't wanna get a tumor in my brain from all these phone calls I'm taking." I'm like, "What do you want?" - I think one of the most interesting things I've seen happen recently that's happened right in front of my eyes is the fucking toilet paper shortage, right?

- I think back to that and like- - Why does that feel like 10 years ago? - I know, right? But I think back to that and our kids are gonna be reading about this or they're gonna see the "Isnet Historian" video like fucking 20 years in the future and be thinking like,

"My generation were never this stupid." I'm just imagining like 20 years from now, like our kids will be like in fucking history class, like modern history being like, "All right, class, so today we're gonna be talking about the 2020 great toilet paper shortage. Like it's the same as the fucking Great Depression." - It blew my mind how in Japan it happened as well. I'm like, "We literally have fucking bidets."

- What do you guys clean your ass with? - It blew my mind that it happens worldwide. It was literally like a idea that spread worldwide even though like nobody knew where it came from. - No, no, the fads started in Australia and I'm not proud of it.

- But like the thing is nobody like in other countries really knew that it came from Australia. 'Cause they were just like, oh, toilet paper, I must buy. I don't know why, but everyone else is buying toilet paper. Therefore I must buy toilet paper. - It didn't occur to people that maybe like, you know, if everyone just keeps using toilet paper at the same rate that we've all been using it, it'll continue to be the same. - Right.

'Cause I don't know why, 'cause it was out of every household necessity that you think would happen, that you think people would need an apocalypse. Food, water, I sleep. Toilet paper, I wake. This is the real shit. - So what, do people think

- People think that like if you got COVID, you also got irritable bowel syndrome. - In my mind as well, I'm like, do I really wanna be an asshole who just goes and like fucking takes everything in the shop? I'm like, I mean, I'll take like a little bit of like pasta, a little bit of canned goods, anything crazy. - Yeah, yeah. - Like enough for like a whole. - I mean, you know, like we stocked up.

But we didn't fucking like be like, can I have everything on that shelf from there to there? - No, we only stocked up just because there was a literal shortage and there was a literal point where I had trouble wiping my ass because there was no toilet paper. - There was no toilet paper. - Bid A gang rise up.

- I was gonna clean my ass with a bidet, but I wasn't gonna step out with a wet ass. Like fuck that shit. - I just jiggle, you know? - A little shake. - It was the one piece of like everyday household equipment that you can understand soap. Okay, I understand if there would be a shortage of soap. I can understand hand sanitizer, of course. I understand why there would be a- - Food and water. - Food and water. There wasn't any- - To me, I'm like, do you know how easy it is to live off like rice or pasta? Like you don't need much of that.

- But there was even a shortage of like pasta as well. Like I remember- - Was there? - Yeah, yeah. - There actually was. - I remember the video of, I think it was in Italy. There was like all of the supermarkets. - Oh yeah, the old guy. - Yeah, and the old guy was like getting pissed off that there was no pasta in the supermarket. And he was like, "People weren't even this obsessed during World War II."

We had more pasta in World War II than we do now. What the fuck's going on? - Yeah, I guess the problem is that everyone's telling each other, you should panic, like in real time, right? Spread it out. It's like, oh my God. I don't know, I had a bunch of cup ramen and I was like, I think I'm good. I'll see what happens. I'm pretty sure the stores aren't just gonna shut.

- Yeah. - There would be an exact point where I would start panicking. And that exact point is if I found out the Konbini was closed. 'Cause I feel like here, if the Konbini closes, you're going through some real shit right now. - That is when I truly woke. - Okay, are we really going through an apocalypse? Okay, I wake now. I'm fucked. - Isn't it like America, they have Waffle House and you can judge on the disaster based on whether Waffle House is open or closed.

It's an actual like study like thing where like even when there's like hurricanes, Waffle House in America is still open. - Wow. - Seriously? - Yeah, seriously, look it up. It's really interesting. I think, I don't know which big natural disaster it was. I think it was Katrina or something. Like Waffle House was still open.

'Cause they're all equipped with generators. - Right, right, right. - Why? - In case of disasters. They're one of the only things that will try their best to stay open unless, you know the disaster is so bad when Waffle House in America has to close. - It's like, damn, my roof just got blown off. Could kill for some waffles right now. - Yeah, if windows and shit are broken, I think they'll still continue to be open. They'll let you in.

I'm not sure exactly I could be chatting out my ass, but as far as I remember that's what it was. - 'Cause I think what this entire situation has made me realize is I remember like, oh, before 2020 watching like old school zombie movies and something like that. And you think to yourself, man, they made the people really stupid in this zombie movie, eh? This would never happen in real life. And now I look back and I'm just like- - Oh, it's definitely gonna happen. - I'm like, they didn't make them stupid enough. Jesus Christ. - There'll be a sect of people

that rounds up people and feeds them to the zombies 'cause they think it'll probably appease the zombie or something. There'll be some shit like that. - I look at something like "Dead Rising" and I'm like, well, this is unrealistic. There's still things inside all of the stores. - The toilet paper is still there. - There's still toilet paper. - What the fuck? - There isn't a subgroup of people praising the zombies. What's going on?

- I am curious what every like zombie story and like every kind of like apocalyptic story, like would like how if 2020 would have changed like how cliches and tropes. - We're just gonna get a million fucking boring movies about this current pandemic and.

- Can you make an exciting movie about the pandemic? I mean, they tried to do it with 2012, right? - They made one like in 2006 or something. - It was pandemic, right? - Pandemic, there's like a few movies that are like worryingly close to like what happened. - Yeah, there was the one that went viral. I think I saw it last year. - It was like crazy.

- Yeah, yeah, but like in the movie, there was like a pandemic that was like completely, obviously named something completely differently years before. And I think it got viral because people found it on Netflix and started watching it. And the dead ass the plot is that there was a virus that was started in China through bats.

- Really? - Yeah. - And people were like- - Some chef had it and he shook hands with a business woman. - Yeah, and then it spread to America and then like half of America died in the movie. - It's Matt Damon, isn't it? It's fucking Matt Damon. - I think it was Matt Damon, yeah. - Fuck you Matt Damon. - I love you right there. - And people were like, oh my God, this is almost scarily similar to what's actually happening right now. - So probably smarter because people probably acted a lot smarter in that movie.

- I don't know. - No, no, no, no. - Really? - They were dumb. - But in that movie as well, they would just like instantly die. For some reason, Matt Damon and his kid, I think. - Were immune. - Were the ones that were immune 'cause of course Matt Damon, I'm pretty sure if that happened, Matt Damon and Tom Cruise would be fucking immune to anything. - Yeah, I think in the movie, Matt Damon was like, "I quarantine for two weeks. "Nevermind, I'm immune now."

- He literally like dead ass stayed inside of a room for two weeks and then the doctor was like, "Guess you're immune now." - It's a pretty good movie. Have you watched it? - I've just seen clips of it online. - Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty funny watching it now being like, yeah, it's fucking weird. - It must be weird watching it during the pandemic and seeing being like, this is,

to be close to what's happening now. - It just makes you realize how lucky we got that it could have been way worse. Like it could have just immediately killed people. - Yeah, 'cause I think, we've obviously gone through a really harsh period right now, but I feel like humanity really just got like a- - We got the best warning sign. - Yeah, this was the best warning sign that we could have gotten. And I say this obviously knowing that it's a fucking tragedy how many people have died, but it's-

- The scary thing is that it could have been so much fucking worse than it was. And this was kind of like the worst case scenario for how easily transmissible this virus could have been. But in terms of like its actual effect, it could have been a lot worse. And I say this with the,

- It's just scary to think that, you know, if this had happened, you know, 50, a hundred years prior, like how much, probably much, much, much worse it could have been, you know? - It's weird because I've been thinking about this a lot because it's been like a full year now since I remember thinking, oh, this is gonna last a few months.

- There's this quarantine thing, right? This is a little, this is a fun little thing. - Everyone came together and was like, "We'll bunk up for like two months and then, you know, we'll be able to go outside and enjoy the summer." - That never happened. - I remember the joke was like, "Oh, anime nerds, ha ha. I found, I was born for this." And then I kind of realized pretty soon that there's a big difference between choosing to stay home and being forced to stay home. There's, I don't know what it is, but there's a big fucking difference. - I saw a tweet that was like,

are people gonna judge people who have a tough time readapting to social situations? And I was like, what? What do you mean? - What do you mean readapting? - Like people who have been like in their house for too long alone. They were like, I hope we don't get judged. - What, they're suddenly gonna go outside and be like, how do I interact with humans? - Yeah, I thought it was a little odd. - What do you think they're like? - I agree. - You agree, Meilyne? - I'm worried. - You're worried?

- Why? You fucking socialize. - Yeah. - You guys aren't people. - Ben is like, I've been in the joint for too long, man. I don't know how to reacclimate to society. - But it was just like, you know when you see shit like that on Twitter and it was just read something like, it was like, they made it out like it was way more serious and like a big issue than it was. And I'm like, bro, it's literally talking to people. What do you mean? - How is this not second nature to you?

- I know people struggle to socialize, but acting as if like your life has just been flipped upside down and it's gonna take so much readjusting to get over this. I'm like, bro. - It's not like you trying to learn a language that you stopped learning after a couple months. - Maybe this is a shitty take. I don't know. It could be a shitty take. I was just like, what?

- Am I dumb? Am I dumb? - Well, you're obviously not part of that, right? Hashtag not relatable. - I know I'm quite extroverted and I obviously can't sympathize 100% with all introvert problems. He, he, XD, hashtag introvert problems, whatever. But like, you know, I mean, to me, I was like, it kind of seemed like they were trying to make it like, I don't know. 'Cause sometimes Twitter does this where it's like, guys, guys, I have a problem. Guys, I need to tell you about my problem, guys. Please come on. Fellow problem, yes. - I believe that's called first world problems. - Yeah, maybe. - Yeah.

- Where it's like the woe is me, right? - Well, I don't know. Like I can kind of understand, but at the same time, how is it gonna be different? Like how are you gonna, how is it that much different from what you were like before? - Yeah, it's like, it's normal. - It's like no one's gonna force you to go outside after the pandemic. If anything, people are probably gonna still worry about it. - We'll just go back to being, we'll just go back to the situation of people choosing to be inside rather than being forced. - Taking a flight. - Taking a flight, God. - Going on a plane.

- It's like if you were, you know, if you loved being inside before the pandemic, you're probably still gonna be inside after the pandemic. Let's be real. No, it's like the police aren't gonna come in being like, all right, you've been in this room for too long. All right, get the fuck out. - Get the fuck out. You gotta- - Just put a little bit of water on myself. - You just missed your mouth.

- Do you think there are gonna be any big changes once this pandemic's over or we just gonna be like, that was a funny thing that happened last year, right? - I mean, like in terms of Japan, like, you know, because we're already such a mask country. - Do you think Japan's ever gonna stop wearing masks now?

- Because before, it was still a socially accepted norm for people to wear masks, but not everyone wore masks. And now I feel like now it's gonna be so deeply ingrained in the culture that I feel like 90 to 80% of people are just gonna be permanently wearing masks. - Oh yeah, of course. I mean, people already wear masks here during, especially this time of year where people have hay fever because that kind of stuff. And then you have the influenza season in November where people are getting sick all the fucking day

Everyone's wearing a mask and it's like, is your face a little bit cold? Wear a mask. - Do you know what I'm hoping and I think is gonna happen and I'm happy for it.

people are gonna take care of the hygiene during conventions. - I don't know man. - You're asking them, come on. - That's a tall order. - I am hopeful that a global pandemic will make nerds care more about the hygiene during a big social gathering. - I don't know man. - Am I being too hopeful for this? Am I being too hopeful for this? - You know what? I feel if anything, it's gonna be like, listen, we're all not gonna get each other sick now. We've all gotten the shot.

And I've been forced to use hand sanitizer and bathe and wash my hands for far too long.

I'm gonna go on a bathing strike. - I think I'd like to just see the alcohol stay in front of all the things. - Yeah, hand sanitizer. - I think if more people would just, especially at conventions where you are shaking hands with so many fucking people and maybe wearing more masks in convention, that's not exactly a bad thing because conflu is just an accepted part that is an accepted part of every convention you go to, right? - Well, it's more like,

- See, here's the one thing I've never understood about con flu, right? Like whenever you catch a cold, it's usually from someone. Who's the fucker who's going to a con with a cold? - There's loads of people. 'Cause I mean, I get it, right? Like if they booked it, they took time off work. - You've already paid money, you've booked your hotel, get a cough. - The least you can do is like try and stay as hygienic as possible. - You're talking Adam Adam, I thought you were talking Adam.

- I know. Can we change this please? - That's what I'm hoping. - Can we change this? - I'm hoping that I go to the next convention or maybe like not just the next one, 'cause obviously the next one is gonna be affected. But maybe in like three years time, we still got the same etiquette of, you know, if you know, maybe wearing masks isn't such a bad thing. - Wear a mask, use hand sanitizer. - People having hand sanitizers, just like easily readily available. Like if I'm just like, oh shit, does anyone have any hand sanitizer? And like three people around me just be like, yeah bro, I got your back.

I think that's a positive change. Maybe the smell can change, but that's just hopeful thinking. That is hopeful thinking. - Can we make those ones that like fucking wet your hand to oblivion illegal? You know the ones when you get it and it's just like oil has been dropped on your hand. That shit should be illegal. - The ones where it's like way too sticky. - It's like sticky. It feels like it's been hydrated to like 1000%. Like it's weird. Why do they keep buying this shit? Stop making that one. - That's the potent shit, dude. - Is it really though?

- I like the feeling of that one. 'Cause your hands feel clean. - The man puts his hand in a Tenga one time and now he wants to like have his fucking lube all over his hand. - Listen, don't knock until you try bro. - 'Cause like sometimes you get like, you go to a restaurant here and they're like, please, please sanitize your hands. And they give you like this, they spray like the tiniest spray on. And you're meant to like make this tiny spray last, like cover your entire surface area. - It absorbs into your palm before you can stretch it out.

- You know that picture where it's like the door that's being held by the Cheeto and like the SWAT team breaking down the door. That's what it feels like when they put like that piddly little spray on and you're like, okay, I can see this does nothing, but you're just doing it because it's like regulation. - I don't want my hand to feel like I've just dunked it in like a vat of oil. Like that's what it feels like sometimes.

- I like the feeling of like, one it covers your hands and two you can feel it evaporate. So you get like a little tingly cooling sensation. - I rather than go overboard with the hand sanitizer than under board. - I feel like it's clean otherwise. It is fucking- - It's like I know my hands are the cleanest it can be. - It is sanitized. That's the point of hand sanitizer. It fucking sanitizes your hands. - That 0.01% of germs is clinging on for days.

dear life on my hands right now. - I just prefer to use like soap. I don't know, I like the feeling of soap. - You can't soap your hands up. - If you're going to like a restaurant, you can just be like, all right, spray a little bit on and I'm gonna go toilet and clean my hands.

- That takes so much more effort. - Yeah, but I like the feeling. - That is the least optimized thing coming from a man who optimizes everything in his life. - Listen, restaurants are inherently an unoptimized experience. There's so much waiting time. - Imagine the queue to the toilet if that was just norm. - Fuck that. Not everyone could be large brained like myself. - Shut up. - You should. - Just shut up. All you have to do is buy this gel. It sanitize your hands more. - I feel like it strips your skin.

- I don't know why, you know what I mean? - Well, that's just your weak ass epidermis, apparently. - It is my weak ass epidermis. - I love it when I can feel my bone.

- Yeah, 'cause some people just have like really sweaty hands and it feels like that spray does nothing. Some people need that- - How fucking sweaty are your hands? - Not my hands. My hands are like- - It's the one that you handshake at a con. - It's the moist hand. - It's the moist hand. - You felt the moist hand. And for some reason, the moist hand always cold as fuck.

Like you feel the moistness. - It is literally a cold wet fish. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like grabbing. - It's like a dead fish, right? - It's like going to a supermarket and like seeing one of those fish in the fish section, just grabbing it. That's what it feels like. It is gross. And you can never shake that feeling off after it's like off your hand. - Apologies to anyone who has cold wet hands, but yeah. - Cold hands.

- Whoever's handshaking their fish at home. - Yeah, who's handshaking their fish at home? - What the fuck are we talking about? - Finding Nemo handshakes people. - Yeah, I mean, I would like to see that from future cons, but I mean.

Really it's just a matter of when is the future coming? - Yeah, 'cause AX just got postponed, didn't it? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just have no interest in going to digital conventions. I couldn't think of a more boring thing. - It's just sad to me. - I get it, they gotta keep doing it. - They gotta do it, but to me, it doesn't make me feel happy that they're doing digital conventions. It just makes me feel sad. - Yeah, unless I'm staying in a scuffed hotel room that's fucked up from all everyone's shit, like it's just not the same. - Yeah.

- It's kind of the same as like virtual concerts. - Yeah, I was about to say. - Like the Fortnite one was pretty cool with like Travis Scott, they did a whole thing for it though. That's like a different experience. - That's a different experience. - Yeah, but like someone on Zoom just dancing in front of their webcam being like, you know.

- Did you see the one that Post Malone did for Pokemon? - No. - No. - Yeah, Post Malone. So like Pokemon just recently announced, well, past the 25th anniversary this year. And the official Pokemon YouTube channel did a virtual concert with Post Malone. And it is weird. It is weird as fuck. - What are they saying? - Did Pokemon reach out to Post Malone or was it?

- What? - It was like literally like, think of like the Travis Scott. - He's like the least family friendly kind of image you could go for that I expect from Nintendo. - It was this clip on Twitter that went viral where like one of the lyrics to like Post Malone song, like obviously, you know, like a lot of his songs, you know, he swears and writes, so they censored it. But I guess they forgot to censor this one line where he was like, ♪ It was just the sex though, the sex though ♪ Meanwhile, there's Lugia flying in the distance.

- Post Malone rapping with a- - And it was like, yeah. So like they had like the virtual model of Post Malone, but again, it's like- - Like in a Pokemon way? - Not even, it's like, I don't know. He was kind of halfway between a Pokemon model and just like a regular 3D model. - Okay. - And it was really fucking weird and especially weird because like when you think of Pokemon and you think of,

- Post Malone is not the first person you think of. - No. - And yet, yeah, it was really weird just being like at the end of the concert, he's like, "Thank you, Pokemon fans. I love Pokemon." - When did this happen? How did I not see this? - I'm surprised you guys didn't see it. - It's like Kanye West going on the Disney channel or something. - All these bitches in there.

- You're such a fucking hoe. I love it. Thank you Disney. - Sometimes you just see news nowadays and like you can't tell if it's real news or just a meme anymore. Like the real news is the meme nowadays sometimes. Like Post Malone and Pokemon. - I mean, I like Post Malone, but it was just a very strange, like, I don't know if I enjoyed it. - It's a very odd combo. - It's a very odd combo. - Especially coming from Nintendo as well. One of the most- - Was it received well?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was good. Like if you're a Post Malone fan, then it was like, yeah, cool. - You're like, "Pokemon." - I don't know about like Pokemon fans, but I mean, I saw it was like pretty positively received. So, I mean, good on Post Malone. - So it's kind of like a Pokemon AMV to Post Malone's music?

- I don't even know. It wasn't a long concert either. It was maybe about 15, 20 minutes maybe. So he played, he maybe did like three or four songs. - So wait, where could you watch this? Was it on Twitter or? - It's on the official Pokemon YouTube channel.

Like if you look up Post Malone Pokemon concert, it'll come up. - Yeah, I just don't wanna be in my room attending an event. - There's just something about the energy of having a crowd there that's just, that you need the energy. It's something that you can't kind of like- - There's nothing sadder than a virtual mosh pit.

- Oh God, that sounds so depressing. Oh my God. - What's the virtual mosh pit? It's just Twitch chat going insane. That's a virtual mosh pit. It's like, it's not quite the same. - I love Twitch chat and I love interacting and I love streaming, but the thing about it when it was supposed to be live and like in person, when it goes to Twitch, it just feels weird. It feels weird. I don't even know why. And like conventions, I just think are an experience you inherently just cannot experience.

- I mean, you go to convention for the people, for the atmosphere. - Yeah, otherwise everyone would be fucking going on their Discord server and talking about anime being cringey, right? - Exactly. - You go to be cringey in person and meet other cringey people. - It's like the whole reason why you go to concerts, right? It's like, it's of course to see whoever you're seeing live, but it's also to fucking see it with people. - Yeah, there's something different about seeing,

you know, seeing a bland live as opposed with other people, as opposed to seeing it, you know, listening to the album or seeing music videos on my bed. There's just, there's just an energy you can't capture if you're watching it through a screen. And I mean, that's, that's why I get why people have to do virtual events and everything, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of,

I just want to attend- - I fucking miss concerts, man. - I miss crowds. And I never thought I would miss crowds 'cause I hate crowds. - I hate crowds. - I hate crowds so much. But like even, like it's not just even being there in a crowd, but just seeing an event and just hearing that crowd scream, there's just something special. There's just something that brings that hype to it. - Yeah, I get that, I get that.

The most recent event I can think of is League of Legends Worlds, right? Normally I'm like super, super hyped for Worlds, as you would be for any other sporting events. But there was just something about seeing this gameplay that just didn't have the crowd roar behind it that just made it feel like you were just watching a Tyler One stream or something like that. - Yeah, like you're watching an online tournament. - Yeah. - I remember the players, they were saying as well, they were like, "Yeah, it's not the same without a crowd." - Oh yeah, of course. - When you get a win,

- When the crowds that are to, you know. - Like when someone makes a fucking amazing play and you hear that roar, there's just something special about that, that even though I'm not there in person, 'cause I've been to, you know, I've been there in person and the energy there is fucking incredible. But even just capturing a bit of that energy and putting it like just hearing that crowd scream, it's something that can't be replicated. And like, I know, and I think it was China that tried adding like,

that tried the canned laughter effect where they added fake crowds effects. - Did they? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - To what? To the legal agents? - Yeah, yeah. I think so. I heard about this. This stuff, like someone's probably gonna fact check and call me out on this, but I think I heard that. And that just sounds- - I wouldn't be surprised. - That just sounds even worse if they did that. - Just like the Friends fucking like soundtrack starts playing.

- The Seinfeld bass just comes in. - Yeah, because like, I remember like, you know, 'cause February just passed and like, I love watching like the Sumo and the Sumo season is like during the winter. So just finished. But like, of course, because it's a pandemic, you can't have people in this tiny, you know, stadium watching the Sumo. So like, it was really sad to see this like massive Sumo stadium only having maybe like

four people in it. And it's just like, and you know, obviously after every win, right? Usually the crowd, you know, like claps or cheers or something, but instead it's like someone does this like epic win and like three people are clapping. It just sounds like a cow shit. - It just feels like there's zero stakes. If you can't hear anyone. - It's not hype at all. - It's really interesting. Cause the sumo, they were like all wearing masks before they got on stage. It's just funny seeing them like, all right, we have these precautions. They take their masks off, they step up and immediately just fucking hit

put their faces together. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know about this. - There's not so much point. - I don't know how socially distant sumoing is, but I mean, you know.

- I don't give a shit. I'm just like, you pick one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It is funny how crowds can play into sporting event hype. So I've been recommended a lot of like, since we did the chess tournament, I've been recommended way more chess clips and been watching chess streamers like Hikaru and everything like that. And there's just something about the image I had about chess before that was boring.

And I feel a big part of that was just how bored everyone looks in any big chess crowds, right? It's like people playing a chess tournament during a coughing events. And what I realized,

like one thing I've realized about how we could like, how the image could be easily changed was I was recommended this other event, like clips of this other event where it's just a bunch of grandmasters who are just like shooting shit and having fun. And they were like having team tournaments and just like trash talking each other. And I'm just like, dude, this seems like a legit fun event. And this could have easily changed the,

which I think it's great now that the image of chess is being like slightly changed. - Not everyone will agree with you, Garnt there. - I mean, that's my opinion as a filthy casual chess player. - I saw some chess GM tweeded out being like, man, it's such a shame that chess is going in this direction. And then everyone was just like- - What, like a not serious direction? - Yeah, because chess has a lot of history behind it. And there's a lot of people who are like,

it's big brain, it's intelligent and it's being watered down for these common folk. - I mean, you are like an ex, you've played chess for your country. How do you feel about it? - I mean, it doesn't really seem like you had that like purist view on it. - No, 'cause I hated it. 'Cause like when I was doing it, it was a bunch of 60 year old white men

who would just be in charge of everything. And they talked about it like you were like the fucking Knight's guard. - Yeah. - Culture. 'Cause it's taken very seriously in the UK and the history behind it is like very long and whatnot. But I don't give a fuck. I mean, if the sports wants to have more funding and be more popular, I think it's a good thing that people get into chess. I mean, it's a good game. I think that it's one of the,

the better games your kid can get into. - I mean, it's gotta evolve to get with the times, right? And Pura's always gonna be behind that. - Unfortunately, chess is probably,

on its own a bit boring. - Yeah. - Let's be honest, right? Like I play it, I can say that, but I think adding these tournaments that don't really take away anything from the pro scene, if you look at chess viewership on Twitch, outside of like pogchamps and stuff like that, the big chess streamers viewership has grown a lot.

I mean, how many street, how many viewers does Hikaru get now? It's fucking insane. - 25k, 30. - Yeah, and it's fucking great because before you literally could not make money playing chess. - There's so many big chess streamers now. And it's really epic, you know, epic wow. - Wow, that's, can I get a pog? - It's pretty epic seeing that like, you know, there's room for like,

many chess streamers to make a living off this and stream it. And you know, I mean, it makes sense, right? - I mean, it's really taught me how important images in regards to like a sport and stuff like that. 'Cause yes, you know, there's, you know, you gotta respect the legacy and the history and stuff like that, but you get to a point where- - It needs to modernize. - Yeah, it needs to modernize. It needs to catch up with the times. And it's great because I've gotten way more into chess simply because it just looks funner now, you know? It looks way more fun.

- And I mean, there's like stuff like, everyone thinks that sports like rules don't change. Like rules are like sacred, but like stuff like basketball, I'm pretty sure the NBA changes the rule, have changed the rules a few times,

based on what makes a more fun viewing experience. So it begs the question is like, what's more important, the sport or the audience? And so I think chess is at that crossroads where there's obviously people who have been training their whole life to be pros and whatnot. And obviously yet sucks that maybe your sport is a little less serious.

But on the other hand, you have way more opportunities, way more money, way more chance to have a platform and do whatever you want. And if you want to be on the sidelines being salty about it, you're probably gonna be the one left behind. - Yeah, it's a balance at the end of the day, right? You can't go too far in either direction. - Yeah, I feel that. Like I remember when Hikari got signed up for TSM, I was just like, holy shit. - That's pretty cool. - This is a pog moment. That is a pog moment right there.

Just imagine if we had a chess tournament where people showed up in like e-sports gowns, in fucking e-sports shirts and stuff like that. That would be pretty hype in my opinion, but obviously I'm a filthy casual. I don't play chess out of anything, but just casually. So that's just my opinion. - I totally forgot I played in the chess tournament like last week. I totally forgot I did that.

- Oh yeah, yeah, how did that go? - Yeah, it was fine. I mean, I had like one hour sleep, so it was pretty brutal and I had to film. Like I had to go somewhere to film. - I mean, you say that, but like knowing your schedule, I kind of like, I was like, you were addicted to Apex back then. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You kind of did it to yourself. - Yeah, you kind of did it to yourself. - I know I did. You know when you just say yes to something and you're like, you don't really think about like how it will like actually fit into your schedule. It just sounds cool. - Until it happens. - Yeah, so I got invited to Twitch Rivals, which was like, they wanted to do like a chess tournament

you get paired with like a GM or something and they tell you which piece to move and you have to choose which of that piece, if they say pawn, you choose which of the eight pawns to move. - Right. - And so it was pretty fun. I mean, yeah, I haven't played chess since our tournament. So I was pretty rusty and obviously not having much sleep.

And so, yeah, but it was good fun. I like doing it. It's fun. I like playing chess, but it's really annoying how like there's some comments as well that like, bro, Connor didn't play like when he was a kid. That's a lie. He's so shit now. And I'm like, bro, if you didn't play for like seven years and you played now, I bet you probably wouldn't be good at it. - You ever heard of a gap? - Yeah. - Yeah. And also I think I'm probably like the same level or probably better as a child than I am now. - Yeah. - It's weird to say.

- I mean, it's the same logic. It's like, oh, you learned the quadratic equation during school and you can't do it now. You didn't learn it during school. - It's also like people think like, how good do you think that like 12, 11 year olds are at this game? I mean, yeah, there are some exceptions of amazing.

- There's only so many Magnus Carlsen's, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was like, bro, I was like the worst on my team as well. I just sneaked in. - Like I remember when I was talking about, you know, my masters and I was like explaining to you guys, I couldn't remember what equation I was talking about. It was second order differential equations. I remember that now. And Connor says, is it?

integer you're thinking of? And I guess I was like, yeah, I guess I was thinking of integer. - I should know too as well. I also have an engineering degree. - Yeah, there was so many comments being like, Garnt didn't pass his masters. Garnt even remember that, Jesus Christ. - If you don't use something, surprisingly, you forget it. - Yeah, you also have to understand that a lot of times during this podcast, a lot of us are just brain dead.

We're just chatting. It's just like- - Again, it's the whole vibe of the show where we just talk. We don't really plan anything. None of the topics ever planned beforehand. We just kind of shoot the shit. - We didn't plan to go into fucking master's talk of engineering.

I'm sure if I applied for an engineering job, I'm more qualified than someone who is like, hasn't got the degree, but might be studying that thing. Who probably knows more than me at this current time, but because I haven't done anything like three years. - Yeah, exactly. - Fuck, I don't know. - I mean, you forget it. - Fuck. - You forget it. - Forgot everything. - I finally understand. - I barely knew it at the time, let alone now. - But that's the thing. I feel like now I finally understand how like my parents felt

- When I would like go up to them and be like, can you help me with this math equation? It's like, you finished school, right? You've done this before. And my parents are like, I don't know how to do this. I'm like, what do you mean you don't know how to do it? - You did this in school. - I think I can't even remember like having passed my masters in engineering. I probably can't remember how to do basic trigonometry now. - No, same. - If someone came, if like some 10 year old came up to me and was like, can you help me solve this long division equation? I'd be like, fuck, no.

- I don't know how the fuck to do this. - I'm gonna do like research real quick, but I'm sure I can get the answer to you. - Let me Google it real quick.

- I can totally get that now. - Yeah, because I remember as a kid, you're just like, how can you not know this? You're an adult, you know everything. You learned this before. - You know how you see this fucking like Facebook quizzes that pop up that are like, you know, it'll be like different tanks of water. And it'll be like, which one will fill up first? And that was like literally like part of my fluids exam. We had stuff like that. And I'm like back in the day, I'm sure I can answer that too. But right now I got no fucking idea. 'Cause I don't remember what the fuck it was all about.

- All right, well, I guess we have nothing else to talk about today, boys. So, hand it off to you, the host, Garnt. - Are we just, are we just? - I can't remember what we ended up. - I'm satisfied. - I've seen enough trash taste, I'm satisfied. - Cue the patrons. - I've talked enough, I'm satisfied. Hello patrons. Thank you for being a patron. Here are all your names. - You guys are beautiful.

- Amazing. - Look at all your beautiful faces. - Hey, if you'd like to support us, go over to patreon.com/trashdays. Also follow us on Twitter, the subreddit and listen to us on Spotify if you hate our face. - I just feel like Joey does it so much better than either of us because he's just like ingrained that into his head. - I literally just like, mentally I just like press a button and it just auto plays. - I could, I just choose not to. - Yeah, I mean, Joey does it for me every time and I'm just like, just let Joey do it. - Hey man, don't fix something that isn't broken.

- Yes, do everything that Joey says. And did you mention that we have a Twitch channel as well? - Oh yeah, we haven't mentioned that we have a third channel now. - Oh yeah. - Do we? - "Trash Taste After Dark." It used to be unofficial and now it's official. I know that confused a lot of people. - It's very confusing.

because there are some channels out there that aren't official and there are some channels out there that are official. I mean, we're like- - Yeah, so let's set the record straight. We have three channels. We have this one that you're currently on, we have Trash Taste Highlights and we have Trash Taste After Dark. Anything else is unofficial. - Yes. - Where we will be uploading our Twitch streams. - Yes, that's right. - Basically, After Dark is literally just a VOD of our Twitch streams. - Yeah, and you know, there might be other like, you know,

that we upload as well. But for the time being all of the Twitch Fords, oh yeah, by the way, follow us on Twitch as well, @TrashTastePodcast. We'll be doing like semi-regular stream. I don't fucking know. - I don't know. We have some stream ideas, no promises, but it's there. - Just follow us there. - Just follow us there.

- I'm ready to die. - Connor's been very tired today. - No, I mean, I was good the first hour and then I'm just like, bro, it hit me. - This is how I've seen you for the past week. 'Cause Connor's been addicted to Apex for like the past month. And every time I see him- - He does this to himself. - Every time I see him, he just comes in and be like, guys, I was streaming till like 4:00 AM. - I didn't stream yesterday, I'm just tired.

- Most of the time he doesn't even scream, he just plays. - I'm just like, fuck, I'm sorry. - Anyway, that's it from us. So we'll see you guys next time. - Bye.