WE AREN'T SMART ENOUGH FOR ART | Trash Taste #207
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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Garnt. Join me once again, are the boys. - Yo, yo, yo, what's up? - And how you guys been? - Showing. - Got a bit of a interesting shirt on there, Connor. - I've had this shirt for ages. I just haven't worn it. - I don't think I've ever seen you wear that shirt. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's from a party. I've never worn it before. - If I look around and you're not wearing the same, you know, purple and white shirt, it's like something's, Connor's feeling a little,

- Yeah. - Adventurous today. - Are you feeling celebratory today? - Is there something special up in the corner? - I just walked to the office and I thought, you know what? It seems like it's kind of short sleeve perfect weather. It was not, it was just too swampy outside. - It is a bit swampy right now. - And the moment I got outside, I was like, ah, it looks like it's gonna rain. And then right before I got to the office, it started raining.

- But I'd made it just in time. - Okay. - But yeah, no, yeah, but I've been up too much. Went back to Europe, went to Wales. - Yeah, I saw you went back to your hometown and home country. - I did, yeah. I also went to, I did like a day in like Belgium and Amsterdam. So I was like, you know what? The plane was gonna stop there anyway. And I was like, fuck it, I'll just,

I'll just spend a day, vibe it out. I had some friends there as well that I was gonna meet anyway. So I was like, "All right, fuck it. I'll spend a day and see how it is." It was good. Actually, I was gonna... This is such a wild way to start the episode. I went to the Anne Frank Museum. I was gonna wear this. And then I thought, as I was putting it on, I thought,

- It's probably not the best day to wear this. - It's a lovely summer day. - I'm gonna get my Hawaiian ass shirt with some sunnies. - I didn't think anything of it 'cause I thought that's a nice Hawaiian shirt and then I looked at it and it's just like funny girl women. - Yeah, just funny girl women. - A lot of titties. - I'm sure people do, I'm sure people dress some interesting things when they go to it but I was like, "Ah, maybe it wouldn't be good." - So you went to a house, right?

- Yeah, well it's just a house, yeah. I went when I was really, really young and my parents always made fun of me. I wouldn't say make fun of me, just they would tell me stories of how I didn't wanna go. I was like, you know what? I'll actually go of my own volition. - Yeah, but how old were you at that time? - Oh, like 12.

- Okay, okay. - That should be fair. - As a 12 year old, I'd much rather play a Game Boy than hear one of the most depressing stories of my life. - It's hard to convince a 12 year old to be like, "Go into this random house." - Yeah, so I was getting to that age now where I'm like, "Actually, maybe I should check out a museum or two." - Sure, sure. Has it changed for you?

- Did you go to the Jan Frank Museum? - Yeah, it was actually, I mean, it's such a cool museum in the way that they've like set it out, not the subject matter. So very depressing. But I remember when I went when I was a kid, it was very different. This time I went, you got like an audio thing that you, it was free and then you, 'cause normally you go to museums, they're like, "Oh, you have to pay like $15 for an audio tour." And I don't wanna fucking do that. They're like, "Please go here." And they'll talk very slowly.

This one, you kind of like scan this thing when you go into a room and then it plays the story in order. And you kind of have this, it's really cool. Really well done. It was very interesting, very depressing. - Did you learn anything new from the tour? - I think so, I think so. I think I knew most of it. - So I learned that there was this girl called Anne Frank. - Yeah, I mean, I think the only stuff I didn't, I mean, I guess the most big moments of this, the thing I knew most of

but it's one of the go-karts I thought, you know what? I thought, fuck it, I'll try. I'll see if I like museums. - I went there like what? Three, four years ago, I think. Like the second time I went to Europe. - It was so busy, bro. - It's very sobering moment though when you go in there. 'Cause like even if you've heard of the whole Anne Frank story, which I'm sure a lot of people have, like actually going there and being like, oh, this is where all this messed up stuff happened. It's a very sobering like, oh, okay. Although,

- The last time I went to the Anne Frank house, I was there with Aki and her family as well. And I guess Aki's sister was like really adamant in going to the Anne Frank house for whatever reason. She was like, "I really need to go to the Anne Frank house." - To be fair, it's really good. And they're like, all the information is delivered so well.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - But see, if only it was that wholesome. 'Cause I asked our sister, I was like, "You don't seem like a history buff or anything like that. Why are you so adamant in going to the Anne Frank house?" And she said, "I heard they have the best toasted cheese sandwiches in all of Europe." That's why she wanted to go to the museum. - That's so wild. That's insane. - And I was like, "Excuse me?"

- That is so out of pocket. - It was so, I couldn't help. - Can we at least go to the reviews and if it's not in the first 10, that's out of pocket. - I mean, you know, I didn't go with her at that time, but then she sent like, you know, Aki a picture of her eating like a toasted cheese sandwich or some kind of like cheese sandwich of some kind. - I would like to think that it's probably- - I don't think it's at the Anne Frank house, I think it's near the Anne Frank house. - No, no, no, there is a really nice cafe. - Oh yeah.

- Oh yeah, okay, it must be there. - It's actually really stunning. You get like a view of like the canals. - Oh, apparently that cafe has the best- - Is this the other one you went to as well? - Afterwards, I was, 'cause you leave the museum. I was like, you know what? I really want a coffee, but I didn't really wanna have a coffee. - Have it in the house. - I'm just like, I just don't wanna have coffee here. This feels weird. I get it, I get why it's there, but I was like, I just,

I just don't wanna have the coffee here. I don't want that in my mind. - Yeah, that's why I thought it was really weird when she sent a picture to Aki and all it was was just her just like eating this like toasted cheese sandwich in the Anne Frank house. - You know there is a non-zero percent chance that she just walked through all the museum room fast. - Most likely, yes. She was like, "Where's the cafe?"

- Why does the audio not have any of the toasty recipes? It's so weird. - It's when you go to like Disneyland just to try like the turkey legs. - The turkey legs. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - I don't want any of the rides. I just want to try the turkey legs. That's all I need to do. - Oh, it's not on the reviews. - I just know that like I,

I recently, I did that what every white person does eventually, where they eventually get recommended World War II YouTube videos. It's like, oh, this stuff's kind of interesting. That's kind of cool. The history aspect of it, obviously not the other aspects of it that get recommended on YouTube. Hey, these guys have great ideas. - This is someone thought of a great idea back in the 90s. - You get recommended a bunch of Kanye clips.

- Let's see what this guy has to say. - Fucking, okay, someone did eventually post this. - Oh yeah. - Off the cafe. - Off the cafe. - When was it that we recorded the thing and it was that clip where Kanye goes, "I'm not gonna say what my doctor was." - He was a Jewish doctor. - So fucking bad.

I love that meme of the quick time event. Yeah, the quick time event. Please play it. The thing about the red hat that drove me to a point of exhaustion, which was misdiagnosed by a, I'm not going to say what race, what people, doctor and what hospital and what media went to. We know I can't say that.

- It was a Jewish- - But yeah, no, I wanted to, I don't know. It was kind of like, it's kind of strange history 'cause I feel like when you learn about historical things, historical events, especially something so documented like World War II, I feel that like, I have all these like very,

separated pieces of knowledge of this thing and no like clear, concise timeline in my head of how all this stuff kind of played out. And so I think that like, I like going to museums, seeing all the stuff and then just kind of like, you know, just hearing all these concurrent stories and trying to like piece them all together and just trying to like, I don't know, just kind of appreciating what it must've been like going through all that.

I mean, it's just a powerful museum, rightfully so. I mean, it's one of the, like, it's definitely one of the best museums I've ever been to. And even though I know it's super famous and- - Is it because of the story that it makes it so good or just the way it was laid out? - 'Cause I went to, I've been to, I mean, you know, you get to like the British Museum or something like that, which obviously is just a bunch of stuff that we stole. But like, I think the problem with that is that a lot of the time when I talk to people, even like, I think I went to like, I went to go look at some like,

I really like Rembrandt. I think his shit is fucking fire. - Yeah, it's great. - He's kind of good at art. I'm not gonna lie. He's kind of good at it. - This guy has a bit of a knack. - But what makes it good, Connor? - Ah, dude, it's just so good. - What emotions do they have? - It's the vibe.

- Okay, so okay, listen, actually, you know what? I went to a bunch of museums 'cause- - Holy shit, you are reaching that age. - No, no, 'cause I, you know what? I'd realized that I feel like I'm uncultured in so many ways and I was like, I wanna see if I just don't fuck with museums. - Yeah. - Sure.

or maybe I'm just neglecting myself art and culture. But obviously I knew I was gonna like the Anne Frank Museum, 'cause again, I think what I was gonna say was that I think when you have a museum dedicated to one thing and more of a concise story to tell, and obviously when it's a story that takes place over like 10 years, it's a lot easier to tell more of a, I think a story that's a lot more easy to follow. I think when I went to like the National Museum, I was like,

- Dude, it's just a bunch of random stuff. It's old. It's like, okay, cool. - So you prefer the ones where it's just like one focus topic. - Yeah, 'cause it's like, no one's, everyone's just like walking around me like, oh, that's nice and old. That's wow, that looks really old. - Did you go to the Van Gogh Museum? - Yeah, I went to that one too. And then eventually they had like one of the nights watch, the Rembrandt thing on display. And it was just like,

every single fucking tourist ever was just taking selfies with it. And I'm like, all right. I mean, that...

- You can't look at it. There's just so many people trying to take pictures. - I think that's what my big problem with museums is that whenever there's a museum about like a subject matter I'm interested in, same thing with like most big tourist attractions in general, which is just, you know, I can really fuck with this topic, but it kind of ruins the whole like immersion aspect when it's just a bunch of fucking tourists being like, hey, taking like a million pictures. - That's the one good thing about,

I guess, and Frank House in that sense is that people rightfully understand that it's not the place to take pictures. So it is just people just experiencing it, right? And it kind of sucks in a sense that it takes such a somber topic for people to just be like, "Hey man, let's just like, let's just do it." 'Cause I've been looking at this thing, and then someone would just walk right in front of me, super fucking close, and just start going,

And I'm like, you are not a photographer, fuck off. I was just trying to look at it for two seconds. You just walked around and I wasn't even that, it's not like I was like super blocking everyone else's view. I'm just looking at it. Obviously like we're all trying to like, me and a bunch of other people trying to like stand away from it. It wasn't even like, I understand when it's like the center point, right? It's like the-

whatever it is, cool. But like when it's just like a little thing that I was trying to like check out, just trying to look at the details and then someone just walks right in front of me and starts taking pictures or selfies, I'm like, dude, dude, what the fuck? - Come on, come on, dude. - But I like to go to museums and I like to like,

I don't like to like look at everything. I don't know how you guys do museums. I like to sit there and look at one piece that I find really interesting for a long time and just trying to feel everything. - No, no, no, totally. - Trying to figure out why he drew everything that he drew. - Yeah. - I mean, that is literally art. - I think you're actually doing it in the intended way. - 'Cause I'm like, everyone's like trying to go through everything.

- There's different like ways where I'm assuming we're talking about art museums there and not like natural history museums. - Or even like, you know, 'cause like the, I don't know what they've won. - Well, my favorites are the contemporary art museums 'cause I just go in, or for one, it's definitely way less people than your average art museum or like history museum. So like you actually have the space to like look at things and you know, like not be disturbed by a hundred people trying to take selfies or whatever.

The other reason I like contemporary art museums is because like, you know, for the most part, you look at like a Van Gogh or Rembrandt painting, right? And you're like, okay, you know, I know the, I see the title, I see the painting. It's not that like difficult to understand, but you still can take a lot of time to like gaze at it and, you know, just be like, okay, well let's look at the techniques. Let's see how I feel about this. Contemporary art museums though on the other hand,

it's kind of the same way where it's like most of them are very simplistic, but you definitely spend 10 times the amount of time just sitting out and being like, so why did they make this? Like, am I just stupid? Or like, do I just not get this? - I don't even think that deeply. It's like looking at art is like the equivalent of like beeps and boops for the eyes where it's just like, sometimes you look at a picture and you're like, I don't know why this is making me feel things or think things, but-

- But the one time you're at a contemporary arts museum and you look at something that for the first split second is just absolutely nonsensical. And it's like, why would anyone make this? But then you stare at it for long enough and you try to like contextualize it and you're like,

when it clicks, you're just like, oh my God, I am an art buff now. - Wait, wait, what does that entail? It's never clicked for me. - Okay, so there was one for instance that took like three years, I think to build or something and it just opened up this year. So, you know, we're like, all right, let's go check it out 'cause we like contemporary arts museums.

I'd say 90% of the stuff in there was like, I don't get it. - So wait, can I have a definition of what contemporary art is? Just so that we're on the same page here. - Contemporary art is basically like sort of- - It's like modern art, right? It's like weird art, right? - It's like, yeah, it's kind of- - Sorry, I see it in my head. Art that isn't like normal, I would say. Yeah, okay, okay. It's more like, I guess like provocative in the sense that like- - It's blobs and bloops. - It's the art where you're like, that's weird.

- That's weird. - Like that's fucking weird. - So whenever you see anything online, that's like strange. - Yeah, something like, whether it be like a painting or a sculpt or like, you know, some contemporary arts are like, they take an entire room and they turn it into- - Dude, oh my God, I read about this woman, the Japanese woman.

- Which one? - And she's like, "Hello, racist." - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - And all her art is is just fucking blobs. And I'm like, wow. - Yayoi something I think her name was. - Kusama Yayoi, yeah. - Dude, if you just Google her name with racism, there's like so many stuff that came up. I was like, wow, this is quite the resume. - The resume of racism. - Oh Jesus. - Yeah.

- Okay, okay, okay. - And then like, I was like, this is like peak everything I don't like 'cause then it was like a collab with like, it was some kind of like Louis Vuitton shirt that cost $900. - Oh yeah, no, she did do a collab with Louis Vuitton. - And it was like contemporary art and it was just polka dots, like polka dots. I was like, okay. - Yeah, that's a thing. - That's your thing? - That's a thing. - Here's a $20 million for designing that, no worries.

- I mean, not all of them are like that. I hope. - But I was just like, wow. I was like, wow, you've made dots and now you've made an ungodly amount of money. - Okay. - I mean the most famous, I think contemporary art pieces, I think it's the one in like Europe somewhere where it's just a urinal. Have you seen that one? - I've seen that one. I've seen that one. Yeah, the urinal one. - The urinal one. But when you actually, when you look at it, yeah, that one. That one, fountain. Like this one is like,

- You look at it, right? And you're just like, okay, this is just a fucking urinal with the artist's name on it. But when you actually know the backstory of this, it's fucking fascinating. - Okay, what's the backstory? - Well, I guess that's what it is, right? Contemporary art is like a story that is imbued in an object. - Yeah. So in the case with this one, in the case with "Fountain," if I remember correctly, there's gonna be a fucking mood on fact check already. - Yeah. Go on, let's go. - But I think the idea was, so this was,

when was it, 1917. So this was submitted to like a 1917 art exhibit where the only criteria was that you don't have to be any kind of like renowned artist. You basically, as long as you pay a fee to put your art on display, then this art exhibit will take any piece of art. So this guy, Marcel Duchamp,

was like, okay, I'm gonna test the limits of that. And literally just threw in a urinal with his name on it. So basically this is shit posting before shit posting. - Right, right. Well, that's fair enough. - Okay. So when you see that, you're like, okay, that's cool. But if you don't know the backstory, you're just like, it's a fucking urinal. - That's what contemporary art seems to be for my message. It's just stories that are contained within an item

- Exactly. - Almost like a journal on an RPG when you click on the thing. This is the story about this and this is why you care. - Did you see the art piece where it was just like some guy taped a banana on a wall? And I don't know what the story was behind that, but I guess that's why it's so easy to make fun of the contemporary art world because you just see a banana on a wall and you're like, it's a fucking banana. - I think also contemporary art obviously does very well

- Yeah, that's it. - Yeah, yeah. - Modern. - The art world's great banana. - Yeah, and this is something where like obviously the internet loves this shit. - Yeah. - Because this is so easy to share. - $120,000. - Yeah, again, like this is the most internet story of all time. - Yeah. - If you are a journalist, you saw this, you're like, this is the easiest free like clickbait. - Yeah, yeah. - That being said, I didn't care much for the Van Gogh Museum.

- Dude, I just didn't like it that much. - You don't like the Van Gogh? - It was so busy as well. - Oh, that's true. - And also, I don't know. Van Gogh's stuff, I'm like, all right. - Too mainstream for you? - It's all right. I'm looking at it and I'm like, nah. I think I just like, I don't like his style that much.

- It feels like, I don't know. - Do you think it's because- - It's pretty like the equivalent of what an anime artist is in the 1990s in the US to back then probably. It's just kind of weird. - What do you mean? - It's very unorthodox at the time, I imagine, his style. - That's the weirdest analogy I've ever heard. - Imagine if you were drawing anime in the 90s in the US, they'd be like, "The fuck is this?" And now they're like, "This is anime from Japan."

And then everyone's like, "Oh shit." - I don't know. And also I felt like he had such a good story. And then I was like,

- I didn't know much about Van Gogh. And I thought there was some, actually I really liked his, some of the pieces I did actually like, but the museum itself and how it was laid out, I really didn't like. - Was it just a bunch of paintings stacked on top of each other? - No, no, no. To be fair, they tried to lay it out interestingly, but I felt like it made this weird kind of like, everyone was going and like walking in different ways. It was kind of like a really like awkward way to, I felt like, personally at least, I didn't really enjoy it.

- Last month I went to a Van Gogh exhibit in Tokyo, which was a lot more, I guess like interactive in that sense. So instead of just like a bunch of paintings on the wall, they would project the artworks into these rooms so you could actually walk through it. And I think like more art museums, at least for like popular artists like Van Gogh and stuff like that, like stuff that everyone's like, everyone's fucking seen Starry Night.

- Yeah, but it was cool. Like it was way more interactive and it was like, even though I've seen Starry Night a hundred million times everywhere, it actually just felt cool to be like, I'm inside the painting now. And it's like, ooh. - It's such a starry night. - I think it was his final work that I liked the most. I don't know, it happened like Van Gogh. - The self-portrait?

- No, was that his last one? - I don't know. What was Van Gogh's last painting? - I think it, I mean, the double check. I hope it's the right one. It should be like the one with the like trees. That was the one I actually kind of liked. Looked wee as fuck. Okay, it wasn't that one. No, I'm wrong. I'm typing like,

- It looks like cherry blossoms. - He's done a lot of like Japan influence stuff. - Yeah, tell me like cherry blossom, shoot comes up. The story was something like how, 'cause his brother had like bankrolled his entire life. Yeah, this one. - Yeah, that one, right? - Almond blossom. - Yeah. - Yeah, his brother had basically like bankrolled

his entire life. 'Cause obviously he was very mentally ill. Obviously, so mentally ill he cut off his own ear. And this was basically the gift that he painted for his son-in-law. Son-in-law? No, nephew. - Family member. - His brother's kid. I was like, "Thank you for supporting his entire life." And then the museum just ends and I was like, and he was like, "And he died." And it was like, "How?"

And then I Google, how did Van Gogh die? It was like, shot himself. And I was like, is that why we didn't put it in the museum? I was like, I feel like we're all big boy adults here. We can discuss him cutting off his ear and why would we gloss over that? It felt like for some reason- - He cut off his ear? - Yeah. - He cut off his own ear, yeah, he was very mad. - That's why in his self-portrait, he doesn't have his left ear, I believe. - Yeah, he cut off his own ear. He was very mentally ill. - Yes, okay. - A right ear, yeah. - Okay.

And obviously back then mental illness wasn't so chill. - Yeah, yeah. - It wasn't so chill. - Not that it is nowadays. But it definitely wasn't chill. - 2024, mental illness is chill now. - It's a lot more chill now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Again, I kind of felt like he has such an interesting life story and it did it in some way at the end. I was like, oh man, why are they sanitizing? I felt like they- - Well, I feel like- - Maybe I missed something. I might've missed something, but I definitely was reading all the time. - I mean, I assume it's like an all ages exhibit. - Yeah, it is. - They gotta make sure that everything is family friendly. - Yeah, but they probably covered him cutting his own ear off, right? - Yeah, that was there. - That's not family friendly. - A lot of the museum, I feel like,

art is normally the one time we kind of were like, look, we have these 1600 paintings, 1700 painted from the Renaissance where dudes are just getting stabbed or crucified. There's a bunch of naked people. I forgot what, there's like somebody. - And all the babies in those Renaissance paintings look like old men. - I heard there was a famous painting. There's one painting where it was like when, I don't know who it was. It was either like Caesar or,

or someone ordered like, oh, I might've had Judas. It was like kill all the kids in this one village. Can you keep going? - I have never heard of this before. - Judas kills all the kids. - Judas kills the kids. - There was like a painting where they'd recreated the order from one of these people to kill all the kids. And it was a really fucking gruesome picture. Where was it?

- No, is it Judas or Caesar? - Man, our company computers. - You have cursed. - Can you type in Caesar? - Judas kills all kids. - Oh man, I don't know. - What kind of search history is this? - Dude, this is such a bad thing to remember like this. Type in Caesar. - Are you sure it was Judas? - Yeah, might've been Caesar. - Might be Caesar. - It's one of those guys. - All right. - One of those guys. - Caesar kills all kids.

- I mean, there's a lot of Caesar in perilous situations. - It was like someone had ordered the, for some reason killing all the boys of this,

- Maybe type in painting after that. - This is such a funny tangent. I'll know the painting when I see it. It was very like intense. - "Masker of the Innocents." - Yeah, maybe it was "The Massacre of the Innocents." That sounds about right. - "Masker of the Innocents." - Wikipedia, what is that? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Funny enough, there's a lot of those in history. - Yeah. - "Narrative of the Gospel of Matthew." - It's a beautiful story. - "The Old Children." Yeah, this is the one.

Orders the execution of all male children. Yeah, this is it, this is it, this is it. There was some really like cool painting that I feel like you know, no, no, I'll recognize it. What is it called? - Do you know who painted it? - What's it called? - "Massacre of the Innocents." - "Massacre," I'll call my phone and I'll see. - Yeah, "Massacre of the Innocents."

And this shit goes hard. It is just like, I was looking at this painting for ages thinking like, this is so fucked. How did you sit there and paint this for so long? But I was like, this is something that like- - Images that go hard. - It's like, you're looking at it,

- Yeah, maybe don't scroll down 'cause I saw some fucked up things. - There was like this one- - Be careful what we show on the screen, please. - Maybe censor all this, Murdoch, just in case. - Oh man, there was just this one paint. I mean, I think there's a lot of paintings of this actually, but there's this one painting I saw in this museum that was like huge. And it was like these women were killing these warriors. It was, well, there's like a dead baby. - I mean, that painting just right there is sick as hell as well. - Yeah, some of these things were like,

I don't know why we went on this tangent. I think the point was, is that there was this one, I was like, this is very widely accessible in just a normal museum. Like I think that-

this is stuff that I don't think you should be sanitizing this kind of artwork. - No, no. - It's like let people see this stuff, these paintings. - I get it, which is why I think it depends on like the vibe of the museum you're going to, which is why a lot of the more, I guess, popular museums, they always feel like this is made for mass market basically. - Yeah, yeah. - Because that's, a lot of people are going to go to these kinds of museums.

And then sometimes you get really niche museums that kind of, I mean, I remember this one time, this is going on another tangent. I remember this one time, this was when I was living in Thailand actually. And I was like, oh honey, do you want to go on a date? Is there like anywhere you want to go to at all?

And she's like, yeah, this is one museum that I've been really, really interested in. That's in Bangkok, actually. And I was like, sure, okay, we'll have a little museum day. Sure, which museum do you want to go to? So there's this museum in Bangkok that I think it's the...

- Death and Medical Museum. - Oh my God. I think I've heard of this actually. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've heard of this. - And definitely probably not safe for YouTube to show anything, but it's basically just in a hospital, right? And they have kept a record of a bunch of murders and,

a bunch of real dead bodies and like deformities. - This is the most Sydney museum I've ever been to. - Yeah, that's the thing. - True crime podcast museum. - Basically true crime podcast, but it is like, the thing about censorship in Thailand, right, is that they are,

are a lot more lax when it comes to censorship of let's say accidents and things like that. Because you can just be watching the news and you can go in a news article in Thailand and they will straight up show a person dying in like a horrific traffic accident with no censorship

They don't cut. - It's like some live leak shit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally some like live leak shit. So this museum had just like real, like dead bodies and real- - Imagine the conversation went, "Hey, we had a horrible accident. Horrible.

- Do we have the body? - I think that's in like kind of Southeast Asia in general, I feel because like, I remember when I went to Vietnam for my mom's birthday and it was on her birthday day, right? And like, we'd already like planned a dinner the night but we was free during the day and we were in Ho Chi Minh. And we were like, "What's your birthday, mom?" Like, "60th birthday, what do you wanna do?" And she's like, "I wanna go to the Vietnam War Museum."

And I was like, are you sure about that? And she's like, yeah, I wanna know about like the history of it. - It's really depressing. - And so I was like, okay. So we went there and you know, innocently enough, like, you know, the outside has like a bunch of like, you know, really cool, like, you know, World War II, sorry, Vietnam War, like artillery and like airships and stuff like that. It's like really sick. And then you walk inside and the first floor is all about Asian orange.

And you just see the most absolutely horrific images of like Asian orange. And my mom's just like, this is a good day. It's like, maybe, maybe this was a mistake. I've just seen some shit that I'm going to see in my nightmares for the next 10 years. And it's like, and again, it's like, it's, it's a lot like the museum in Thailand where it's like, they don't fuck around. Like obviously, you know, they need to be historically accurate and show how terrible it all is. Right. But man, some of those images show that stuff.

- Of course. And I respected it for that, absolutely. Because it really gave a very powerful effect when I was there. But my God, some of those images, holy. - I did find the image where I sent it to Nabi. - Oh, okay. - Let's see it. - Yeah, pull it off. - No, because I'm used to seeing, I'm used to going to like exhibitions like in London about like, oh, the Tower of London and all that shit. And it's always like, you know, little fun recreations of, oh, this is the kind of torture that existed back in the day, you know? - I think people just think that like pre-1900s, it was just like, ah.

- Those are just different species actually. - They were just built different. - Yeah, yeah, and then you see some of these like exhibits where obviously in Southeast Asia, they don't have the budget to make fun props or make fun little recreations of dead bodies. So here's just a real dead body that we've preserved that's been cut up for you to show. And it's like, Jesus Christ. - I do love like weird museums as well, ones that are like dedicated to like strange topics. - Yeah, let's see this picture then.

- It's kind of gnarly. - All right, let's see this. - Let's see how hard this image is on a scale of one to 10. - How hard does it go? - How hard it goes. - How hard? - Honestly, okay, the image I sent doesn't do it justice 'cause it's got like a watermark on it. But imagine it and like, it's like eight foot. You could just, it's like immaculately painted. It's like ridiculous. - Damn, all right. - And it's just so grotesque. Look at this image.

- God damn. - So like, look at that. - That goes hard. - That does go hard. - Like a naked dude stabbing a baby. There's a bleep all of this. - This looks like something out of "Fear and Hunger" probably. - Yeah, I mean, well, you know, like the story- - This is like a black metal album cover. - There was like so much about it. They're explaining it and they were like, yeah, well, 'cause the women were obviously protecting the kids. And you see like there's literally a soldier with his eyes being gouged out 'cause they're trying to kill him. It's just like, Christ, like,

Imagine painting this sitting down, you know, you brew a coffee, obviously coffee for me was drink, I think it was drink for my dad, I don't know. You brew a tea, time to get to work. All right. The butt streak, immaculate on this one. - I gotta finish off this ass cheek. - Bro, that guy is caked up while massacring me. God damn, bro. - Did they have to give him such a cake? - Jesus. - Oh my God.

- Yeah, no, okay, that goes hard. I will admit that goes hard. - Do you think back in the day when artists were like painting, like painting there, painting something like this, do you think they knew they were about to drop a banger? Do you think they knew? - They went to their clients and they're like, "I've got a zinger." - It's crazy. - "Key me out." - Obviously we hear about some of the most amazing pieces, right? And these fantastical, like stunning,

amazingly religious and grand paintings. All reminiscent of this. I don't even know what the style is, 'cause it's been a style for so long. I don't think there's, they're all very religious. - I would have just called this a Renaissance painting. - But I think Renaissance is, I don't know if I could be wrong here.

- Fact check, absolutely necessary. Isn't that more like the Italian style of- - Oh, like Michelangelo and stuff like that? - I thought that was what that referred to. I could be wrong. - Maybe, I don't know. - Anyway, point being, we don't know art, so don't take anything. But I mean, it's fun. It's fun talking about it. And just seeing old shit is so cool. And then I'd see this painting, right? And they'd be like, "Yeah, this is one of his more unremarkable works." It's from, I don't know, this would be like 1657.

And I'll look at it and be like, this shit is so insane. And they'll be like, yeah, it's only really worth like 50,000 nowadays. Like that's fucked. This shit is so insane. - That reminds me of when I went to the Louvre in France and obviously massive museum, right? And obviously,

99% of people were there to see the Mona Lisa. And so the Mona Lisa, I don't know if you guys have been to the Louisville, seen the Mona Lisa, but like it's in this room where it's basically only like- - Oh yeah, I've been to the Louisville. - Yeah, it's basically only, there's two paintings in this room. - I was a kid. - Yeah, there was the Mona Lisa on one wall, there's the Mona Lisa, which is fucking tiny by the way. And like really far away. And there's obviously a million people clamoring over to like take a picture of it.

- The other side of the room is what's considered the most rejected painting of all time because it's in the same room as the Mona Lisa. But the thing is that like, for one, it's such a stark contrast to the Mona Lisa because Mona Lisa is this tiny thing that you've seen everywhere. And then on the other side, it's kind of like this.

this giant like 10, 12 foot long painting that is so much more interesting and so much cooler than the fucking Mona Lisa. So like while everyone was taking a picture of the Mona Lisa, like I was just fucking chilling looking at this like giant thing. And I'm like, why is no one looking at this? - Well, why is the Mona Lisa the most famous painting in the world? - It's 'cause of the story about how it was stolen.

It was stolen at one point and then I think there was a whole like news thing about, 'cause I think it was a rather unremarkable painting when it was first released. We wanted to fact check, but I'm pretty sure what kind of pushed it into being one of the most popular ones was the fact that it was stolen and it had such a huge news story around it. And then it was retrieved. - Do you think like the art community back in the day was like similar to like the anime community today where they saw the Mona Lisa and like, "Ass mid."

- I think I generally think like it was kind of a, yeah, like I said, like an- - You know what I mean? It's like, yeah. - Too mainstream. - Yeah. What are the top 10 most famous paintings in the world? - Mona Lisa. - Mona Lisa number like, obviously number one. - Probably Mona Lisa, Girl with the Pearl Earring.

- 'Cause I have no knowledge of art at all. - Last supper, Starry Night, Van Gogh, Girl with Pearl Earring. - There must be a list. - I think my brain is broken with the Van Gogh Starry Night. - CNN, CNN, top 10 most famous paintings in the world.

- The tower of, what's a not a, fuck not Sauron. - Tower of Sauron. - That's all I see. And like, can you show star? I mean, sorry, I'll be on this list actually. - Yeah, here you go. - All right, Mona Lisa. - Mona Lisa is number one. - Mids, mids. - Last supper. - Last supper. - It's a- - Have you actually seen, have you heard Last Supper? - I have seen Last Supper. - It's on like some like,

- It's in Santa Maria, right? - Yeah, it's cool. - Okay, actually, Last Supper, I fuck with it just with how much is going on in this one. This like, Mona Lisa is like, oh, it's a fucking girl, isn't it? Oh, it's, it's, it's- - I mean, I like it. - The eyes follow you wherever you go. - Fucking mint, all right. - Whereas Last Supper is just Jesus like, boys, we eating good tonight, baby!

- It's like me and the boys, me and the boys rock up. - I was trying to be contrarian. - All right, all right, number three, number three. Starry Night. - Dude, I just can't unthink of Lord of the Rings when I see the tower. - Eye of Sauron? - All I can think of is

- The sour sour, I cannot unthink it. And then the fucking bright ass sun. I just think this is some kind of Lord of the Rings shit. - I think that's the moon I believe. - That's the moon. - Sorry, I just think of the fucking tower. I don't know what's wrong with my brain. - I mean, it's all right. - You've just seen it everywhere now where it's like, it's fine, it's whatever. - One of the biggest things is like story for me. So I'm like, it looks visually, this looks cool.

but I can't really like, I can't really garner any like emotion looking at the story. - He was living in an asylum apparently. - You know what, I bet there's, and I don't know. - Oh, the scream? Okay, this one, this one goes hard. This one. - This one's cool. - This one goes hard. - Edvard Munch. - Yeah, this one goes hard.

- Where's it being held? Tokyo? Oh, it's in Tokyo. Oh, that was the picture was in Tokyo. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No way. - All right, Scream, not overrated. - Guernica. - Guernica. - I've never heard of this before. - Oh really? This is probably one of the most famous Picasso paintings. - Never seen this one. - Okay, never seen this one and it's number five already. - I think this one goes hard as well. - This one. - This is interesting. - Okay, I would go to an exhibit like this, look at this and I'm like,

- This is interesting. I can't think of any other word to describe this other than interesting. - I feel these kinds of paintings really straddle like traditional art and contemporary art. - How long would you have to look at this before you're like, all right, I think I'm getting something here. - I already don't like it. I've been through it too long. - I don't know, this one's trippy and cool. - Yeah, it's kind of like, huh. - Like the more you look at it. - If your kid drew this, you'd be like,

- Put it on the fridge. - Did we just call Picasso a fridge painting? Put it next to the memory. - There's a bunch of fridge magnets. - All right, next one. - Next one. - The kiss. - My parents have this hanging up in their bedroom and I've always wondered what this was. The only thing I can see in this is that they referenced the Nelfin Leet.

- I don't feel anything when I look at this. - I don't feel anything. I was going to say this. - It just reminds me of home. - Yeah, I'm not getting anything from this. - All right. - Next one, what's the next one? - Next one. - I go with polar earring. - Mid.

- I've seen this one. - If it's just a paint. - Okay, the cool thing about "Girl with Pearl Earring" though is that it's like a fucking mystery of how you're, 'cause there's an entire movie based on this. I think the biggest mystery from what I remember is that for one, I think the person in this painting doesn't exist. - So apparently it's like a weird painting thing where like you paint something made up

- Yeah, because in 1665, no one could get a hand on a pearl that big without it costing like a billion dollars. So people were like, so is this a self portrait or is this just Vermeer just like making something up? But it's weird that it'd be making something up because for that era, no one was doing paintings like that.

So there's the whole like mystery of like, so is it an actual person or is it a crack? - I also think back then they preferred to paint like things that were there and real. - Yeah. - Okay. - It was like a big emphasis on that I think. - So Burwell was like, - I can paint something from my mind. And the world was like,

- He kind of was the first painter with a domain expansion. That's what kind of made it legit. - So the backstory is cool, the painting itself is just like whatever. - If I'm not mistaken, okay, I feel like I know more than I should about this, but Femmier was famous 'cause he was, if you look at his work, it's impeccable how he painted light. If you look at any of his work,

how he like understands light is insane. There's one or two examples of like why I think he does it maybe more interestingly, but like, yeah, look at the woman with the, yeah, the one with the jug is also- - Oh, that one's really famous. - Right. So open up like a big version of it. Like look, it's kind of fucked up 'cause you're like, how did this man, it looks almost real. - Yeah. - Like the way that the light bounces off everything. - Bro, I know why the girl with the pearl earring is the most famous painting of his. - Why? - 'Cause it looks most like a YouTube thumbnail. You know how they say, now it's not.

- Look at this shit. The use of light on that is fucked up. How do you do that, bro? - If there's one thing I've learned from YouTube. - Archie X was on. - If there's one thing I've learned from YouTube is that if you need something marketable, you need someone's face right in front center. This shit, people look at this and they're like,

- Our YouTubers are like, "Thank you Vermeer for the perfect thumbnail." - Bro perfected thumbnails in the 1600s, man. - Look at the items. Look how good the lighting is on them. - It looks like a photo. - You literally can't tell the difference between like, if it was that blurry, if that was real or fake. - Yeah. - Maybe I took a little,

It's scary. - That's cool, but like these kinds of paintings, I'm like, it's cool, like the technique is cool, but it doesn't make me feel anything 'cause it's like, ah, this is like a photo back in the day. - That's fucked, look at that. That looks real. - That does look real. - Could you imagine seeing that in the 1600s? Your mind would be fucking blown. You'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Give me your paint, let me sniff it.

And then they invented the camera and they were like, "They made what?" - He's like, "I'm out of business." - "What the fuck, I'm out of business." - For me it's just like, I painted this in four years. It's a screen and you're just like- - He's like, "We made this in four minutes." - Yeah, yeah, and I'm just like, "I just took a screenshot."

- That looks insane. - Well, I think the reason why Van Gogh became popular after his death is because of the, it was something to do with how weird his colors were and how unusual that was. - Okay, "Birth of Venus." - Oh, this one's weird.

- It's used too much, overused now. - Yeah, yeah. - It's cool though. - It's cool. - 1400, that's fucked. How do we keep stuff around that long? I barely, you know, we bought Nintendo fucking GBA games. You've seen a Nintendo GBA box when you were a kid? No, I never saw it. Threw that shit away. How do they keep this shit around for so long? All right, carry on. - All right.

- I don't know this one. - I don't know this one either. - Diego Velazquez, 1656. - I'll take not famous. - Looks like. - W painting, W's in the chat for this painting. All right, what's the last one?

- Oh, absolute W. - Oh my God. - What a W. - Such a hard image. - Gotta be S tier. - This is S tier. Holy shit, this is absolutely go to. - I goon maxed this one. - Paintings that go hard, man. - I'm pretty sure Michelangelo gooned off to finish this one, man. He looked up at the ceiling and he was like, "I've done it."

- It's kind of crazy that he painted it on the ceiling. Just an absolute mad lad. - Wasn't he also like, I think I saw a bunch of YouTube videos on like how this came to be. Like, I'm pretty sure like Michelangelo, there's like bits and pieces of this painting that the church originally didn't want in, but to like retaliate against the church or something, he like hit a bunch of like, not anti-church, but like stuff that the church wasn't a huge fan of in the paintings.

And I guess like the church was like, yeah, it's good. - Man, Adam got done dirty with his dick though. - Yeah, that is- - That is not a shower, that's for sure. - But holy shit, that pose though. My man was listening to the Giga Chad song when he was like, my guy was posing Adam Malik. Look at that shit. - It is, yeah. 'Cause you imagine, 'cause it took four years to paint. Just imagine like being one of the church goers or whatever, just seeing it coming along. Must've been the coolest shit ever. Coming in every like week of Sunday like,

- I can't imagine how fucked his neck would have been afterwards. - Yeah, right? Just like doing this for four years. - Absolutely mad lad. - Yeah. - I'm glad we all have some appreciation for art. As I get older,

I guess you come to realize, yeah, we kind of need this shit. - Yeah, yeah, we do. Well, to me, art is like, to me at least, everyone has a different definition of art. To me, art has always been about communication. And it doesn't matter what kind of media, whether it be paintings. The thing that makes paintings hard to appreciate as a kid is that I feel like whenever I've really appreciated a painting, I've definitely needed more than just a quick glance.

You know what I mean? It's something, it's like you watch a piece or you watch a movie or something and you're like, okay, you're sitting down for this duration of this movie and then you will get some kind of emotional response. Same thing with music, you listen to the entire song. With a painting, you could, there are so many different like layers of how- - The historical, the time, like the perspective like.

showing you what the kind of, what was popular then. Like you get a real sense of like what was like the style and like you imagine people being like, ah, this is shit. This is like, you know, Picasso I'm sure was kind of really out there at the time. You probably get a feeling for that when you look at it. 'Cause even now you're like, what the fuck is this?

- Yeah, but like- - Catch up with you good bro. - But one thing I do like about, you know, some pieces of art, which is just like, I think it's the rawest way to really get a sense about what someone's inner emotions is sometimes, especially with some more of the modern arts. I don't know how it classifies itself, but sometimes you just look at a different combination of lines and squiggles and some shit and you're just like,

'cause, oh, what were you feeling? - I feel that way about every Salvador Dali painting. - Yeah. - Why is Dali not on here, man? - I see here it says, "Persistence of Memory" is the ones that came close, which is probably his most famous one. - Let's see that one. - Oh, the Knights Watch that, I saw that one too. - Yeah. - You know, that's why I said some museum, 'cause if you try to pronounce- - It's the melting clock one.

- Oh, that's- - I do like that one. - That one was, this is cool as fuck, man. - It's so sick. - All right, this is- - That goes so hard, look at that. - That does go hard. - Fuck yeah. - This feels like something that belongs in a "Courage the Cowardly Dog" episode that we're all painting.

- I don't know why. - I just realized Joey likes anything that could pass for an album cover. - Or like acid. - Dude, this is an album cover, is it not? - Of course it is. This is such an album cover. - This is an album cover, man. - This is so sick. - Okay, you know what? Like I think, you know, I'm very fortunate. I've never had to go through some like really, really like tough hardship in my life. And I think almost that's why as well, something like Van Gogh, right? Doesn't connect with me as much. 'Cause like, I think art in a sense is like,

as you get older, you're like, man, I'm so, even religious, you're like, I'm so fucking, I love God so much. Anyone else love God so much? And you see this picture of like Adam and Eve, you're like, fuck, I get it. I feel so good about this.

And same with like Van Gogh, you're like, man, I'm going through some shit right now. I just need to know if anyone else has felt this way. 'Cause everyone else felt so fucked up. And then you see a Van Gogh painting of him doing a self portrait when after he cut off his ear and you're like- - Everyone's like preach. - I imagine like that's how it is, right? As you get older and you can appreciate yourself 'cause you're like, I can now, now I've gone through some of these aspects of my life. I can see the art. Like I imagine when I'll,

I'm sure when I'm like 60 and I've had, I've either, maybe I've had some real fucking hardships or I've lost people I care about. Probably seeing the van Gogh of him after the self-portrait, after he cut off his ear. I'm sure that'll feel so fucking raw to me at some point. - I feel like with art, it's so hard, you know, as humans, right? We can sympathize a lot of the times, but it's, you know, we get the true connection when we empathize. - Yeah, absolutely. - 'Cause like the first time, you know, I really felt this was, you know,

to me it is a piece of art, which is like watching the ending of Evangelion. You watch it as a kid. - I knew you'd bring up anime and anime. - I mean, it's the first time I like something like my brain chemistry changed to be like, oh, this is some stupid artist pretentious shit. - That'll be a portrait of Asuka in a museum in 400 years. They'll be like, this is one of the first examples of this.

- I really wanna, if I could time travel 400 years from now, go to an art museum and just see the frame of like Shinji Umibe coming to the stands. - That would be this in like the National Museum. - Yeah, 100%. - This is one of the first Hideki Anno amazing pieces that really evokes- - Preserved for 400 years. - Well, do you think like in terms of,

influential people and influential culture, right? Do you think the people that are living in our generation will be looked back upon as like,

as influential as some of the people in the past. Because you think of some, not even like, not even with artists, but you know, some scientists as well. - People talk about like, you know, stuff like, I don't know, like Charlie Chaplin like that, right? You know, someone of kind of recent history, but so much is credited to him and so much like people talk about him

- Yeah, Naby, can you search up the smartest picture ever taken or something? - I think I know the one you're on about. - Yeah, yeah. And you think like the most, the photo of the most intelligent people ever taken. - Oh, I have seen this. - Yeah, can you find one where like they have all the names on? Because you look at this picture and you think, and you look at some of the names on here and you're like, this is, these people all existed

in the same time period. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you think this is like, this picture has gotta be one of the most stacked pictures that has ever been taken in like the history of like photograph. - Plank, Einstein, Picard, Schrodinger.

- Heisenberg. - Yeah. - Oh my God. - Yeah, right? - Dude, collectively there's about 90,000 IQ in this picture. - Bro, this is my entire like physics and chemistry textbook in a picture. And you think all of these people existed at the same time. Just like me and the boys changing history. That's what this picture is. - Look at this shit, man. - That's so stacked. - And you think to yourself, damn,

are there this many amazing people that exist in our time period that could come together? - I'm sure because there's still every single year, you hear about certain discoveries being made, which at the time of them being discovered and being presented to the public, you think to yourself, oh, okay, that's a...

cool little discovery, I guess. But then, you know, five, 10, 50, a hundred years from then you realize like, oh wait, actually this tiny little discovery that everyone thought was just like a, yeah, that's kind of a cool thing. It ends up being something that just like completely changes the trajectory of history, right? Or like technology or something like that. You know, like the Japanese guy who discovered the blue LED, you know, like at the time everyone was like, yeah, this is pretty cool. But now you realize, oh wait, everything fucking uses a blue LED now.

- You know? - I didn't know. - You didn't know that? - I didn't know that. - I also watched the Veritasium. - I know about blue LEDs, but I didn't realize there was- - I didn't either. - Do you know the name of the guy?

- Fucked up by Tanaka Taro. - Solid bet. - Solid bet. - Solid bet. - Shinji Nakamura, there you go. - I feel like I always hit Nakamura's. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's a very common- - That lineage gets a lot done. - Yeah. - Don't hear a lot from the Satos. - No, no, Satos are lacking, bro. - They're lacking, bro. - Come on, man. - They're too cozy. - Come on, Satos, get with it.

- So that was, I guess the museums. I didn't know we were gonna go talk about artwork in museums for so long. - I don't know. - I can keep talking about it. - That was the first time I ever talked about it. I guess there's other stuff that I did too, which we could talk about, but I guess, you know, I don't wanna bore people too much about artwork. I'm sort of sleeping. I think the last thing people want to hear from us is artwork.

I threw people in the comments. - No, but no, but like, I do agree as you grow older, you build more of an appreciation of all kinds of art because you get to experience more kinds of emotions, more things in life that allow you to empathize with some of the emotions that these artists were feeling. 'Cause I do feel some of the most powerful arts

unfortunately is made by some of the most fucked up people or people going through some of the most strongest emotions in their lives. - Yeah, absolutely. - And I think, you know, unfortunately the stronger piece, the stronger the art,

- The more shit the artist was going through back at the time, especially in modern day art as well. - I mean, we're obsessed with the tortured artist trope as a people. For some reason we love that. - Yeah, and a lot of times, you know, torture and just going through bad shit brings for the strongest pieces of inspiration as well. - True, true. - Yeah. - Totally. - I also got like gigascammed. Well, not gigascammed, I scammed myself. - Right. - What a tangent.

- Would you like to explain? - Yeah, so I was gonna have dinner with a friend and I wanted to look, I didn't really know anywhere to eat. I was looking up at Google where to go eat and found this restaurant that has super good ratings and looked cool. And I had a bunch of stuff planned that day. And the restaurant didn't have any bookings available at dinner. So I was like, "Oh, let's just get a lunch, it'll be chill."

And so I guess the thing about this restaurant that made it like interesting was that it was like in a church. They'd like redone a church. I was like, oh, that's cool. That's cool.

And so there's like no reservations online at all. And I was like, oh, okay. And so I clicked lunch and there was like one available at like 12:30. I was like, oh, cool. Awesome, awesome. And I want to try Belgian food and of course it'd be great. I get to try a ton of Belgian food. And so I went at 12:30 and I thought it was odd when I booked online 'cause they needed my card for a deposit.

And I was like, that's a little unusual, but not unheard of. - It's normally like- - Just for like a course. - Okay. - Or like a nicer restaurant. - Yeah. - Some really expensive restaurants. - I was like, it's a little bougie. So I put my car details in and I didn't think anything of it.

And then I, you know, on the way over there, I was just looking at my bank account and seeing like, you know, 'cause I was, you know, just feeling good about myself. - Don't pay me. - I was trying to do some, I was trying to look 'cause I couldn't find a payment for something else. I noticed that I was like, what is this payment that I don't recognize? And it was the restaurant that took a charge to secure the deposit. They'd taken 300 euros out. - What? - I was like, what the fuck?

"Oh fuck, 300 euros for two people? "That's insane." - Okay, yeah. - I was like, "That's fine." So I was like, "Okay, Christ, all right, Jesus Christ, "what is this fucking restaurant?" But I was like, "Maybe it's like a prepayment thing." So I won't have to pay or they'll use the money or whatever. And I was like, "Okay, well, a little expensive, "but hey, I'm on holiday, I splurge."

a bit more than I intended to today, it'll be all right. So I get there and like, I can tell, all right, this vibes are a little serious and I'm definitely all underdressed, turn up in a t-shirt. I was like, all right, this is a little-- - Turn up in a trash t-shirt. - Yeah, it's a little more serious than I thought it was gonna be. And it was like a very open thing and there was so many staff. I was like, what the fuck?

And I knew I was in trouble before 'cause when I checked into my hotel, the guy was like, "Sir, where are you going for lunch today?" I was like, "I'm gonna go here." He's like, "Oh, very nice. "I heard it's hard to get a reservation there "within three months in advance." I was like, "What? "What? "I booked it two days ago. "What do you mean?" So someone must have canceled or something. I was like, "Oh, okay, okay." So I go there and they bring out these three snacks that are tiny. One of those is just a sushi piece.

- Very bougie sushi. - Okay, okay. - I was like, please don't tell me I booked Japanese food by accident. I'm gonna end my life. And so the first thing comes out and he goes, "This is what is known in Japan as a maguro." And they didn't say tuna. They said, "This is a maguro with a umeboshi residue using a bit of dashi."

- They were pronouncing everything like way worse than I am. I was like, I was sitting at them like, "Okay." So I eat this, I'm like, "Don't get me wrong, it was very good." - I'm sure. - I'm sure it was. - So I have the, and there's some other, I took pictures and I can send you them all, Naby. I don't know how you should share them.

Actually, I'll send them in post. I'll try and show you boys a couple of them. - So what I'm hearing- - So three pieces come out, right? And I was like, "All right, I'm in a little trouble." And they come over to me and they go, " Yeah, so that was the snack. Are you ready for the 12 course meal?" I was like, "The what? The 12?" I was like, "Was that three of them?" She goes, "No, that was the introduction snack." I was like, "Oh."

And then I answered, here's the full menu. And I was like, okay. And I was like, that's a lot. That's a lot. And I look at the bottom, it says the price, 300 euros per person. I was like, oh, oh no. What have I done? And then they go, is four and a half hours, okay. I was like-

- Four and a half hour lunch? - I was like, "I have dinner booked at six." I was like, "It's 1:00 a.m. "It's 1:00 p.m. and I've got dinner booked at six. "It's so over for me." And then it's just like every course comes out and I, okay, don't get me wrong, every course was amazing. It was so delicious.

but it was not worth 300 euros. - I don't think any meal is worth 300 euros. - Every single item, they just go, "This is the negi." And I was like, "You can just say leek, just say leek. I know what leek is, stop." I was like, "How dare you say negi? Just say leek. You know this is leek, don't lie to me."

- And I, okay, again, it was amazing food. If I was a billionaire, I'd be like, great, this is great value for money. - Sure. - I would have a million dollars. - So was it all Japanese? - No, but like, I'd say eight out of the nine, eight or nine of the 12 dishes all had like some Japanese word that they would use. And like one of them was like, this is seared bonito. And I was like, okay.

And then there was one where it was like, and I knew they were just waffling. 'Cause at one point they said, I wrote in my notes, 'cause I remember I was very aware of this, 'cause I really wanted to talk about it. And I thought you'd find this funny. - Okay. - They had like three items that were all hamachi. - Okay. - Problem is,

- Hamachi is very not clearly defined in what it is. - Yeah, it's just a white fish. - Yeah, so if you actually, interestingly, if you Google Hamachi Japan and each area of Japan actually calls Hamachi something different. So different fish sizes. So if you now would you Google like Hamachi local fish,

there's like all names. Like there's like all of these fish are completely different. - No, not the Hamashi network. - Like images, there's like, I had a good chart that I found online where it was like,

- Okay, this is not very helpful. Maybe you might have to type it in Japanese. Basically like Osaka, Hamachi is something totally different to what it would be in like Niigata. And there's even more local variety where it's just like, what is this? Like this is so not even defined. You might need to type it in Japanese for the local names like the-

Like, I don't know if you did like Nikka or something. Like all this stuff is so like, yes, if you don't know anything about Japan, sounds really cool. - Yeah. - But was just like- - But then you realize it's all the same fish. - Yeah. - Yeah, and you're like, ah, you know, like it's- - Did you know this as well? - I did know about it. I don't know any of the other names though. I only know- - Yeah, look at this. I want to put the sheet up before we start talking about it.

- Oh yeah, so there's Buri, Mejiro. - So Buri is also, Hamachi is just Buri but kid. - Yeah. - But every- - Buri is a big Hamachi. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay. - But each area of Japan calls Hamachi and classifies it differently. So whenever you go to like Osaka, Hamachi is different to what it would be in-

what it would be in like Niigata or something. - Yeah, right. - So I was like, this is not helpful at all. Like, what is this? Like, can you tell me what this is? 'Cause you're charging me so much fucking money for it. - Oh yeah, there we go, there it is there. So it's like hamachi, Tsubasu, Fukuragi, Inada. It's all the same fish though. - Yeah, it's all the same fish, but they're all different things. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So if you, yeah, so wherever you got it from, it'd be like totally different. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you know, kind of coming from Japan,

Bonito, Bonito is such a cheap fish. Like getting like a seared Bonito is like fucking $1. And like I'm sure it's a little expensive to get it. But I'm like, come on, come on. And it was just so expensive. And the whole trip I was just like,

Why do they spend so much? I couldn't enjoy it. The best part is, you know what I've learned now? And it had, by the way, I didn't know this, it had Michelin stars. Every single Michelin star restaurant I've ever been to has the most bomb bread ever.

- Oh yeah. - The bread is absolutely off the charts. Probably my favorite thing. - That's it. I don't know if I mentioned this in like a previous episode, but it's every time I see or hear someone going to a Michelin star restaurant, it's just what always fires off the alarms for me is when they can only talk about the fucking bread.

- The bread was God-like. - How was the bread? Yeah, it was God-like? - They brought out smoked butter. I never even heard of that. That was so good. - I don't even know what that is. - Actually one of my favorite parts of this whole thing. Okay, number one, right? I absolutely,

viscerally hate it when restaurants do this. Especially when you're paying so much money. He's like, the bread comes out, he's like, "Do you want some olive oil?" I'm like, "Yeah, sure, why not?" He goes, "Okay." Puts the little thing tray down and then goes from like such a height and pours olive oil. And it's like splashing on this thing and pissing. Like, you know when you piss on the bowl and they're like little thing. I'm like, "What are you doing?"

What are you doing? Stop, stop. Just pour it in the thing. - It's like getting on your face. - I am not two years old. I'm not amused. Oh, wow. Oil goes, pours down straight. - Yeah, what are they expecting to be like,

- And then I thought that to myself and the table next to me, they were like laughing. They loved it when they did it. I was like, I'm actually, this is such an unserious thing to do. It's such a, like you trying to tell me about all this negi and bonito and umeboshi and dashi that you use in everything. And you sit here and spray olive oil all over me. And I'm like, why?

Give me the olive oil, fuck off. Don't pour it like I'm in some kind of budget circus. I'm not too, I'm not amused by this. - It's like, you know what? I can pour it myself, it's fine. - Yeah, give me the olive oil. Stop pouring it all like that, you fool. And so then the main course was like this chicken, right? And so this guy, you know how it is. This is my least favorite part of Michelin star restaurants, they yap.

They love to yack. - Especially in European ones. - If you've never been to a Michelin star restaurant, don't, a lot of the time. I just think it's not worth it. You take so much goddamn time and they just yack and then you lose all your money. I just wanted to spend a normal amount in the meal. I didn't realize I spent that much. So he comes out and he goes, "This is the most expensive chicken in the world." And I was like,

- I was like, sure, sure. He goes, every chicken has 10 square meters each. I was like, that's like in a Japanese apartment. Why do these chickens get so much? He's like, they get raised for this long. And then he's like, we cook the chicken breast six different times. He was like, we sear it in water. We sear it while boiling it and then do all this shit. And I was like, okay.

And then I ate it and I was like, this is really good. But my whole time I was thinking, yeah, but my guy in Tokyo, he does a fire negima and he cooks the chicken so good. And I think it's better than this. - And that's just like 200 yen. - Yeah, it's like 300 a stick. I'm like, I think this is just not worth it. But they did bring out this, one thing they did bring out, which again came with the bread. It was chicken butter.

- It was like, I don't know, like grinded down chicken into butter and it was smoked. It was Godlike. That was the best part. I was like, get rid of this. Stop making this expensive chicken. Give me the chicken butter. Just give me a whole vat of this. I will eat that. - Now definitely all they did was just grab some fucking Devondale butter and then just put some chicken salt in that shit and then mix it up. I can make that in Australia. - I had the most awkward dinner at six o'clock. I was like, let's just have a starter.

- I just took a little nibble. - Can I have some water and bread please? - You don't want to have it for like, I'm like, no, no, I'm just, I'm just. - That reminds me of like the most disappointed I've ever been at a restaurant as well because like- - Worst. I didn't want to go to a Michelin star restaurant. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe you should have done your research. - I should have. - You always find yourself in one. - I just thought a hodgepodge would be nice. - 'Cause I remember, 'cause like one of the most disappointed I've ever been to a restaurant is, so there used to be like,

It used to be a restaurant actually that me and Sydney discovered one day. - Oh yeah, number one, yeah. - And it was like, it wasn't exactly like a bougie restaurant, but it was like, let's say like mid range, you know, there was, we, you know, we went to this place and it was kind of like a bar slash restaurant kind of deal. But you know, you could tell that the chef was really, really passionate about his food. And so,

he goes to this bar, have a few glasses of wine. And then we got to know the chef, like we got to know the chef pretty well 'cause he'd always like make us try these different dishes and it had some really, really good fucking dishes. I remember he was like trying some really experimental stuff. We had like a ostrich katsu, ostrich katsu.

which was one of the best fucking katsu I've ever had in my life. And he made wasabi ice cream. And I was like, this is- - Dude, wasabi ice cream goes hard. - I was like, this is some weird ass shit. I don't know if I like this. Had a bite and I was like, this is one of the best scoops I've ever had. What are you cooking, sir? - I'm cooking. - Yeah. And he said, you know, one day,

a few years ago he said, "Oh, unfortunately, we're shutting this restaurant down." And Mr. New City was like, "Why, why are you shutting this place down?" And he goes, "Oh, I'm actually opening a new restaurant and it's gonna be like near Ebisu." So much more central than where we are now. So I was like, "Oh, cool, we'll come visit you one day because you do some bang ass food." And it's like, the chef was like,

really, really personable as well. So we just really liked the vibe. So it was the first time we were like, damn, okay, new chef. We're gonna see what this artist cooks up next. - We stand. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We follow wherever you go. - I'll follow this artist, you know. I'll follow this cook. I'll follow this chef.

So few years pass and me and Sydney were, you know, we wanted a date and we just remember this chef that we met here. And we remember the name of his bar here. And we were like, oh, let's see if he actually opened up his restaurant. Search it up, search up, search up the name. And lo and behold, he has opened up a new restaurant with the exact same name of the old restaurant. So we're like, great. All right. Opened up a new place. He's made it.

Let's go. Like, I remember he was such a nice guy, great food. Let's go check out his restaurant. So one of the big weird things at first was like, we tried booking a seat and there's only one time available. And they say you have to arrive

15 minutes or 10 minutes prior to this booking. And we were like, that's me and Sydney was like, that's a bit weird, but you know, maybe he's trying to go for some higher class restaurant. Okay, we get it. Chef's trying to make a name for himself, whatever. Let's go give it a try. And so we turn up on the day.

And we soon realized that there are only, this is when the alarm bells start ringing. There's only 15 seats in the entire restaurant. And the restaurant is just one single room. And then you have like the kitchen and the chef and it's just a square counter around the kitchen. And there's 15 seats.

and everyone has to turn up at the same time because they are going to prepare for you a kind of like a seven course meal or something. And it is literally like something out of the fucking menu. And I have never been like more uncomfortable and more disappointed in my life, right? Because the food,

- The food, I knew I was in for a disappointment when like we get the first course and it's like a snack. Like, you know, it's like the first course snack as Connor experienced, but I remember

he revealed the meal at the same time. Everyone sits down. Everyone's like, you know, very quiet. Sits down at the same time. To me, I'm fucking awkward as shit 'cause I'm like, I don't know who any of these people are. Everyone gets a dish at the same time. Everyone fucking gets revealed the dish at the same time. And I see caviar.

and gold flakes. And I'm like- - That's like the biggest red flag. - Oh God. And you get like the seven minute long explanation. - These gold leaves were hand picked from the mountains of Toyama. It's like, I don't, I don't get it.

- Yeah, and it turned from the old place where the chef was all obviously like very passionate, trying some experimental stuff to just like the most bare bones basic, "Yes, here's some caviar with some gold leaf. And we use some French cooking techniques to make this soup that goes along with it." And I'm like, "Bro." - So did the food quality, like obviously the menu changed, did the food quality get

- No, he just, the food got more expensive, but that was only because he was using more expensive ingredients. Chef fell off. And I have never been more disappointed in my life. This was like, I didn't know you could get this feeling, but this was the exact same feeling as following an indie band

and then they make it big and mainstream and they start doing- - And they suck. - And then they start selling out. - And then they start selling out and make like mainstream pop and shit like that. I was like, where is the ostrich katsu? Where is the fucking wasabi ice cream that you cooked up earlier? No, I don't want any of these fucking gold flake shit. - This is like watching an anime and you love season one and then post time skip, you're just like, oh man, it's not the same. - Yeah, yeah. - I remember like- - The Ebisu arc is a bit meh. - Yeah, yeah. - I just feel like if I have to spend more than like

50 pounds or like, I don't know, like 50 bucks. - Yeah. - Or even like 60 bucks, I guess on myself for like my entire meal at like a nice place. I'm like, all right, now we're getting in territory. I'm like, this gotta be worth it now. - Yeah, 100%. - Yeah, exactly. - I feel like when I was in Italy, every meal I had was amazing. And it'd be like three or four, it'd be like a two starters.

or maybe like two pastas a man and a dessert. It'd always be like reasonably, like 40, $50 if that, honestly a lot less sometimes. And that was always like the best food ever and like the best dining experience 'cause you're there for a reasonable amount of time. I don't wanna be in the restaurant for like four hours. I just don't, I'd rather go drink somewhere else. I'll do something else with our friends or like whatever it is. Like I don't wanna be sitting there having awkward explanations. Yeah, sometimes you want a cool experience and I can understand that.

I mean, come on. - Yeah, that is always the worst feeling, isn't it? Where it's like, you've been repping this place for so long and you're like recommending it to people. You're like, yo, this place is the shit. And then they just make that one change where it's just like,

all goes to shake. - Because I can see on like a business and I guess if you want to make a name for yourself as a chef, it's like, oh, okay, let me open a new restaurant and let's up like the class. Because I think what I loved and what I love about the Japanese cuisine scene in general is that there's so many like,

like independent places where it's just like a guy who just really is passionate about doing this one thing. Maybe it's like making yakitori or maybe it's like making different types of dishes or meals. And that's what I love. And I was like, you know, I found this one guy clearly passionate about what he did.

- Fucking sold out. - Yeah, I had the same thing with one of my favorite like skimming places when I was living up in Saitama at my uncle's place growing up. And like this place was like right next to my uncle's house. Used to go there every lunch 'cause he would just make this like the most amazing spicy skimming ever. And I don't know what he was putting in this thing but it just hit so much different than any other thing. And you know, this is like a relatively like down to earth kind of like, you know, skimming place, right? Like it's like,

and there's just one dude in there who's just making it all. And like, you know, you go there often enough and you get friendly with the dude and you start talking to me like, okay, this guy just clearly wants to make something like cool and delicious or whatever. But then I remember after years of going there, I went back one day and there was like three other people behind the counter.

And the dude wasn't even there. And I was like, where did the guy go? And he's like, he didn't feel like coming in and he just hired all of us to like teach him the stuff. And when I tried it, man, I put the half mast up and I was just like,

funeral time for this place. I was like, this is not the same anymore, goodbye. - It's the worst feeling when you lose that favorite place. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's like someone trying to replicate mom's cooking. - Yeah. - And it's just like, you know, sometimes you try to do it and- - It's like, I'm sorry, man, but you're not my mom. - Yeah. - You can't replace my mom, man. You can't do that. - You're not my dad, man. Go on, go on. - Nah, nah, can't do that.

- How was that? - Went to Wales as well, that was fun. - Yeah, how was Wales? - Yeah, Wales was great. I actually went around Wales this time. I was like, I'm gonna drive around and do some touristy stuff, I guess. - Yeah. - See the stuff that I saw when I was probably a kid. - I saw you went to the longest town name again. - I did. Yeah, it was super close to me. So I was like, you know what? - Is there actually anything to do there? - There's a giant gift store.

- Sick. - What are they gifting? - That place? No, there's a lot of stuff nearby gifting. There's like a giant, giant gift store filled with like all kinds of stuff. - Do they bank on the town name though? - Yeah, because the train station,

I went there just to sit closed, but when I went there last time, there was like eight buses, giant buses filled with tourists. They just come to take pictures of it. But also obviously, 'cause there's a lot of stuff in the area you can come see as well. A lot of really cool castles that are UNESCO heritage sites and stuff like that. There's like tons. There's like five really cool castles all within like a one hour driving circle of that area. - Nice.

And there was some good rock climbing gyms around there too that I went to once. - Nice. - It was fun. - Were you just climbing the castle walls? - I walked around, it was really cool just getting to see all the really, man I forgot how cool castles are. So fucking sick. - Yeah, they're pretty dope. - And there's like one that I really like, which I liked a lot when I was younger as well, it was at Conway Castle. It's literally like, I've sent the picture on Twitter, but it was the one where like you literally drive under the castle gates at one point and drive right next to it. And it's so cool.

The whole town's in like a walled off area. It was just really sick. It was just fun. And getting to see my family, it was nice. - Yeah, yeah, that's good. - I brought my nephews a whole suitcase full of crane game winnings. They're obsessed with Pokemon as every kid is. So I just brought them Pokemon and it was like,

- I imagine this is what it would be like when drug dealers finally give their drugs away. I don't know how drug dealers- - You drop it off, the load is off my shoulders now. - It was like igniting a fusion reactor. They just were like limitless energy for like four hours 'cause they got a Snorlax. They were unstoppable. - Do you not remember what you were like when you got new video games?

- I don't think I was screaming and running around. I think I played the game. - No, I was definitely screaming around. - I was screaming when I got the game and all my energy. - Thank you mother, I will now play Pokemon Red. - I think the first time I got Pokemon Emerald, I think that was the first time I nutted.

- I was gooning when I got there. - I had a lot of fun in Wales and it was just great. But yeah, I was just kind of chilling with family, which I don't really get to do. So that was great. First time I got to spend some really good quality family time. - Right on. - I mean, it's rare to just get a holiday where you don't do any work and you just get awesome. - Yeah, yeah. I went to speak to my school again.

- Oh, you went back to your school? - Yeah, I emailed them. I was like, "Yo, what's up?" - Yo, your boy's in town. Your boy's in town. - Guess who's back? - I hadn't gone in like three years. And I kind of wanted to just say hi, 'cause I was really friendly with some of the teachers. And I was like, "Yo, what's up? I'm back." - Wait, you did like a speech? - Yeah, he was like, 'cause I think there was a, I basically spoke to the year sevens, so the 12 year olds. - Yeah.

- Did any of them like know you? They were like fans of you? - Yeah. This one kid goes, "He's not bald." And I was like, "I'll fucking kill you." - So I did a little talk for like,

I didn't really prepare anything. Spoke to the, they're like 12. And then I was like, all right. - What do you talk about to a bunch of 12 year olds? - I mean. - I would basically explain what I do now, how I started doing it. Then I'd be like, questions? Anyone have any questions? And then they would try and like, I think 'cause I look old, they were being like, they're like, where'd you go? And I'd be like, I've been all around the US. And one kid went, you've been to Ohio? I was like, yes, I met the final boss. They went like,

They were like, "How does he know memes? "How does he know this?" I was like, "It's my job." And one other kid, it just evolved into like, "Do you know this person? "Do you know this person?" - Yeah, of course, of course, of course. Did they ask if you know Mr. Beast? - Of course they did. And I just lied and said, "Yeah, we're best friends."

And they like fucking lost it. All the kids were like fucking, I was like, what the fuck? - It's like, I'm one degree closer to Mr. Beast now. - I go, yeah, we're really good friends.

I would just say yes to everyone. And then one kid fucking caught me out with it, little shit. 'Cause I just started saying yes. 'Cause I was like, I don't wanna just deal, I don't wanna deal with this. I was like, I don't wanna be like, who was that? I was like, yeah. And he goes, do you know who this guy is? And I was like, yeah, of course I do. And he goes, that's my channel. I was like, nope.

- I would have loved it if that kid was like, "Oh really? Name five videos." - He called me out little shit. Little fucking shit, those little kids. - Play 40 Chess. - Yeah, they were so nice though. And then, yeah, they were really cute. It's just me, it devolved into like, then they were like, "Do the voices." And I was like, "What do you want me to do?" He's like, "Can you do like any characters I know?" I was like, "You know, Stewie Griffin?" "Lois, Lois." And he was like, "Oh, there's Stewie Griffin." I was like, "Yes, 'cause it's just my voice."

- I don't think I've ever heard you doing a stupid crew. - No, it's stupid. And he's like, "Can you do Schmeagle?" I was like, "Everyone can fucking do Schmeagle." - Everyone can do Schmeagle. - Did you introduce yourself as a voice actor? - No, I said that like, I'm a YouTuber, but I've done voiced in some stuff. And they were like, "You voiced out? "What did you voice out?" I said, "Nothing you'd heard of, old man."

I was like, I voiced some anime. He's like, "Can we see it?" And I was like, "No." - No. - But then I was like, "Sure, fine." Played them a clip and they're like, "Wow, you sound evil." I was like, "Yeah." It's funny, little kids are fucking funny. - Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's- - They got brain rot though, bro. They asked me about thumbnails and stuff. I was like, "What the fuck?" - How, wait, were they actually?

- Were they like genuinely interested in like the process of making YouTube videos? - Some kids were, yeah. So I did a speech three years ago and I asked if the kids had any questions. None of them, given they were like 16. So I think- - Yeah.

- Their dreams have already been crushed. - I think, yeah, they'd realized that YouTube wasn't for them. So let's say like there's a six year, seven year age difference now. - Sure. - I could very much tell the energy was so different between like what they were into

Nowadays, it was very weird. And they also a lot, they chipped up a lot more. I don't know if it's 'cause they were younger. They were just talking over each other and talking. And I was like, shut up. I don't know if I was allowed to. I was just like disciplined and I was like, no. I was like, wait your turn. Yeah, it was strange 'cause all of them, one kid goes like, I got a thousand subscribers. How do I grow my channel?

I was like, "How have you not been bullied out of existence?" And I realized they're all doing it. They're all making YouTube videos. - He's the cool kid. - If I said I had a thousand subscribers and I wanted it, everyone makes so much fun of me in high school. And one kid goes like,

I don't know how to make good thumbnails. I was like, oh, this is weird. This is weird. I was like, this is so weird. And like they were starting asking stuff like that. And then they were doing, one kid goes, do you make thumbnail faces for your thumbnails? I was like, oh no, it's over. It's over. All these kids know. And then I go, what do you mean? They go, and they all in unison, like 10 kids go,

- I was like, I was like, I'm scared. This is weird. This is so weird. - They know too much. - I was like, why do they know soy faces? How, how do they, why do they know this? And they all know it. Like, it's like, like, like it's like a cartoon network show for them. - Yeah. - It's so strange.

It was very fun though, it was very fun. - So when they were asking if you know this YouTuber, aside from MrBeast, what other YouTubers did they name? - Who do they bring up? - Yeah, who is hot with the- - Obviously MrBeast is like a big one. - Just like every like weird, like I know some of them, but they were just definitely like targeted towards kids, I'd say. - Yeah.

like Mr. Beast seems to be known obviously by everyone. - Yeah, by everyone. - But seems to be very heavily like, all the kids knew Mr. Beast. - Yeah. - Seems like kids all know about it. But a lot of them I'd never even heard of. So like, I'm like, damn, there's a lot of these YouTubers that are just,

- Were they all like Mr. Beast kind of like style videos? - Yeah, all of them were like, yeah. - Okay, okay. - All of them were the same style. - Yeah. - So strange. I went back and watched some of these YouTubers afterwards, I can't remember who they were, but all of them were very Mr. Beast style. - Right, right. Was it like the Sidemen or anything? - No, not the Sidemen, I was surprised by that. - That's surprising considering how- - I think the Sidemen humor is maybe a little older. - Yeah, maybe a little older than 12 years old. - I don't think kids are watching those Tinder videos. - They'll find out in about three, four years time, I'm sure. - They're good kids. - Yeah, yeah, exactly.

- They're good kids. Have you settled down as your role now as the cool uncle? You think so? - Yeah, because one of the nephews, he's six. He's addicted to Balloons Tower Defense 6, which I've also played an ungodly amount of. And I was like, "Show me, bring me your iPad. What are you doing?" He's like, "I can't get past this." I was like, "You're boosted."

This is unacceptable. You are from my lineage. You can't be bad at this. And so I was like, let's sit down. Let's go over this. And I was like, show me what you do. He's putting all these monkeys down, not upgrading them, no cohesion. He's like, I know a trick though. You can get free money with a banana farm. I was like, I know. I was like, show me what you're doing with it. And I was like, no, it's just so poorly optimized. And I was like, there's no wonder you can't do hard. Let me show you, let me show you. And we're going through, he's like-

"But I wanna see what the helicopter does." I was like, "No, focus on the hand. "Stop putting down towers. "We need to upgrade the ones we have." And he's like, "I can't do it." I was like, "Well, you will do it. "I will teach you how." So hopefully he'll be fine now. - Yeah. - Don't go too harsh on the kid though, 'cause then you're gonna like plan to see it at Troy. - No, no, no. - I was nice 'cause I could tell. I could tell when I'd be like, "I really think we should do this." I could tell when he really didn't wanna do it. And I'd be like, "I just think,

- You will do it. - Yeah. - Now. - You will do it. Whether you like it or not, you will do it. - Yeah, this is- - Oh, cute. - I was playing. - You're like a lecturer here. - It's like in the war room coaching. - You're like, all right, you need to do this. You need to do this. Oh yeah, yeah.

- You're like a war general being like, "All right, first line of tactics." - First line of this, yeah. Because I remember I had a similar experience when I saw my nieces when we were on like a US tour. So I hadn't seen this niece since basically for like as long as like I can remember, you know? It's been a very, very long time and you know,

For me and my family, I'm an only child, but all of my cousins are really, really close. So I see them as like my bigger, younger brothers and sisters and stuff like that. So their kids are my nieces and nephews as well. And like my cousin was telling me, oh, you know, she's a little bit shy. You know, she doesn't talk too much. So, you know, if she's a little shy, don't worry about it. And she's just, we were all at a family dinner and she was just sitting on her phone, just like playing a game. And I was like, what game are you playing?

I look over and I was like, "Skenshin Impact." And I was like, "Oh my God, it's in the blood." It is literally in the blood. - I was really happy he was playing balloons 'cause even though it has microtransactions, I think it's probably one of the like fairest games you could get into. So I was super pumped. I was like, "Thank God you're not playing like

Google ads like slop games where they really shit at the game. - Dude, if I caught my fucking nephew playing that, I'd be like, I'm telling your mom. - What characters were you using? Was he using any characters or was it fully optimized? - So it was as optimized as you could be for a free to play. - Oh wow, okay. - Free to play. - Okay. - So- - Did you give him some pulls or? - Yeah, yeah.

I was like, I was like, I was like, I saw, I saw they were playing. I saw she was playing Genshin Impact. I was like, this is my, this is my time. This, this, I'm going to be the cool uncle right now. I'm going to be the cool uncle. So, so I was like, I was like, oh, what game is that? And she was like, oh, it's an anime game. And I was like,

"Is that Genshin Impact?" And you could see like, you know when a kid gets called out and they have this realization of, "Oh my God, an adult knows what I'm doing right now." And she's like, "Yeah?" And I was like, "What characters are you using? "How many five stars you got?" And it was like, to me, I felt so like happy and proud 'cause it turned from like,

her kind of like, you know, being a little quiet, being a little reserved to just like spilling everything. And I was just like, I was just like, you know, I saved up really, really hard to get, you know, Raiden Shogun and I pulled her and these were like the four stars that I'm using right now. And I was like, I had this moment where I literally said,

- Don't tell your mom, but do you want to get a free five star? - You introduced gambling to this poor kid. - Gala's like, let me show you a really cool in-game trick. Pulls out credit card. - That's what we gotta bring to the game. Wow, the gameplay in this game is shocking. - Don't tell your parents. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, don't tell your parents because on Genshin, you can gift

you can gift like Prima gems. So I didn't pull out the credit card in front of her, but I did under the table gift my little niece a few pulls so we could do the pull together. - Did you get a five star? - We did. And at that very moment, I knew that I was just like, all right,

I'm the cool uncle in this one. - 100%. - I'm like- - You're forever gonna be the coolest. - 'Cause my cousin didn't know what was going on. We were just like, all right, all right, we'll do a few pools together. And so send us some Primogems, did a pool together. We're like, ah, I didn't get the five star. You know what?

"You know what, don't tell your mom. "Let's just do one more. "Let's just do one more." And Gatcha God smiled on us. We got it on our second tent pole. And I think, you know when we were like, "Oh, that's some core memory shit." I think I just made a core memory for her where we pulled together and we got the five star and her face lit up like,

I don't know, for me, I was just like, oh, this is what being like a parent feels like. Just seeing a kid's face. - That's the best part of it, right? - Yeah, just seeing, you know, I'm the uncle. I don't have to go through all of the stuff, you know? I don't have to go through the baby phase of like changing diapers and all that shit. - You know the best moment. - But I saw her face light up and I was just, oh, it was just such a good feeling. I was, best Prima Gems I've ever spent my life.

Yeah. Gifts and nephews. Yeah, gifts and nephews as well. You use money, no. Yeah. The gift of gambling. The gift of gambling. And, you know, I met my...

I met my nephew in England as well. And then I, you know, taught him as well. He was also a little bit shy. I don't know why everyone's shy in my family, but- - Kids are normally shy. - Yeah, kids are normally shy. But I found out from my auntie, sorry, from my cousin that he has been reading "One Piece." So I was just like,

I was just like, you know what? Sydney brought like the first 20 volumes of like "One Piece" and just never fucking read it. So let's, you know. - She won't know this is gone. - So I was like asking Sydney, Sydney, do you wanna have the opportunity to be the cool auntie? You can be the cool auntie with one simple trick, baby.

- All you need to do. - Give them gifts. - Yeah, give them gifts, basically. - Work some politicians, why would you work on kids? - Exactly. - So basically the secret is just bribing your nieces and nephews to be the cool uncle and- - Works every time. - Works every time, baby. - And they say money can't solve all problems. - How was Thailand then, was it good? - Thailand was good. I also took a trip to Thailand as well because it was technically a honeymoon.

after all this time. - This has been like the most anticipated honeymoon of all time. - Yeah, right? - Oh yeah, I mean. - The generations have been hearing about this. - Yeah, I mean, it's been like two years and just never had a chance to do it because of scheduling basically. 'Cause you know, we got married and we had like a mini moon where we went to, we went to Bath, but love Bath.

Great little town, but at the same time, it's fucking Bath. - The strat seems to be keep having mini moons and it's been like, we'll do it someday. - Yeah, so we got married, had a weekend in Bath, which was a good little break mini moon, but it was only like a weekend. And the reason we did that was because we had to fly to,

literally like the day after or something like that. So we wanted to celebrate sometime, but we were like, oh, well we'll have a honeymoon. - That was the entree before the main course. - Yeah, exactly. We'll have a honeymoon someday. And then we just never had like a good two weeks where I was like comfortable being like,

"All right, I don't have trash tastes. "I am ahead on videos. "I am ahead of my main channel. "I can take these two weeks off." And that just never happened for two fucking years. And another reason was as well, I don't know why, but just the pressure of booking a honeymoon. You know what I mean? It's like the honey, where'd you choose?

Where the fuck do you choose? So we were like, oh, we're gonna go somewhere we've never been before. Maybe we're gonna try somewhere in Europe, maybe Iceland, maybe, and then- - But we gotta make sure it's like a great experience. - Exactly, exactly. - You don't wanna risk it with like a potentially shitty place. - Exactly, we wanna go somewhere new, experience somewhere new, but it's gotta be the honeymoon. It's gotta be somewhere at least a bit more luxurious than just a standard trip or something. We wanna do something to treat ourselves. And there was just so many different factors

that I just kept pushing it on and on and on until I was like, honey, fuck it. Let's just go somewhere we know, like Thailand. - I know a place. - Honey, I don't know if you know this, but I think I know a place. I know a place and I think we're gonna like it and I think we can have an opportunity to treat ourselves and...

do some things we've never done before. So we ended up going to some of the islands in Thailand and just having like a week and a half just to ourselves. Some days going out and basically exploring some of the more beautiful sides of the Thai islands. I went snorkeling for the first time. - How was that? - It's so fun, man. - Yeah, right? - Just the water like super clear and blue. - We were really lucky on the day because

So we ended up going to Thailand, unfortunately during like one of the worst heat waves in like the history of like Asia. - That sounds bad. - Which was- - I mean, how hot are we talking? - Bad, like 40 degrees Celsius in 100% humidity.

- It was bad, it was bad. - Not fun. - But it wasn't as bad on the coastline and on the island and stuff like that. - Yeah, at least you get a little sea breeze, right? - Yeah, yeah. So we went snorkeling on the first few days, which was pretty damn hot. But thanks to that, the water was very, very clear. And I think I got like a baby version of snorkeling 'cause they were like, "Okay, we can go for like..."

a bit more adventurous or we can just stay on the coastline a little bit more and not have anything dangerous and just stay near the boat. And I was like, I want the easy version. I don't know. I still fear the ocean. I'm still fucking terrified of the ocean. Give me the baby version.

Have you guys ever been snorkeling before at all? - Yeah, a few times. - Of course you have in Australia. - Like every weekend I used to go. - Yeah, like every weekend. - I've done it in some real fucking nasty waters, like real dirty, gross. - Oh really? - Like where? - Like lakes.

- You can snorkel, is this in the UK? - Yeah, you can snorkel anywhere. - You can snorkel as long as the water's deep enough. - You want to snorkel in the UK? Do people do that? I have never heard of anyone snorkeling in the UK. - There's loads of, if you go to any seaside town, they always sell budget like snorkeling kits. - What can you see? - Nothing. - It's just mud. - Nothing. I also did a lot of pool snorkeling. - What the fuck is pool snorkeling? - Snorkeling in a pool.

instead of goggles in a pool, you just wear a snorkel and then you see the bottom of the pool. What the fuck can you see? The piece of shit just like that. - As a kid who really enjoyed swimming, being able to put the flippers on was kind of like fucking cool. - Yeah, I could not get used to the flippers. - What, they're so fun 'cause you just go fast. - Yeah, you feel like a mermaid. - Yeah, especially when you get older 'cause you get the big flippers, bro, it's so cool. - And then when you learn to like kind of do like shallow dives as well, like holding your breath and like kind of doing the dolphin kicks, bro.

- Yeah, see, I never learned any of that stuff. So I was like, I find it, I was like, every time our instructor was, 'cause I had to have like a life jacket on, 'cause I was, they were like, if you're a beginner, here's a life jacket. - Oh wait, you had to snooker with a life jacket on?

- No, just having a life jacket with us. - Oh right, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we were allowed to do was- - I was gonna say, how do you get under water? - No, no, yeah. - Your face is like- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like damn, this is so immersive. - So what they gave us was a life jacket that we could hold while swimming around. And if we wanted to dive deep- - Oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. - Then we have the life jacket on top and we dive down just in case the life jacket

says to any boats, hey, there's going to be the, if in case there is someone underneath here, just in case. - Yeah, yeah. - But that was required. But I could not for the life of me figure out how to dive down deep with these flippers on. I just could not get used to them. - Really? - Yeah, 'cause I don't know. What's like the right technique? Are you meant to just- - I don't know. It's one of those things I never really thought about.

- Yeah, I basically just go head in and then the moment I can feel that like at least a part of my flippers is under the water surface, then I kind of just start doing dolphin kicks. - Yeah, 'cause you like pull yourself under with your arms. - Yeah. - And then you just start like fucking going for it. - Yeah, because I didn't wanna, 'cause I was afraid of like, okay, one, I was afraid of,

going too near to the coral. So I didn't want to like- - You can hurt yourself. - Yeah, yeah, you can definitely hurt yourself with the coral, but just- - Sharp, right? - Very sharp. - Yeah, I mean, I do hate this thought, but it was like the first time I went underneath and just saw all the fish and all like the sea life just swimming around me. It's sick. But then also I hate myself that my first thought was, "This is just like Subnautica." - Not wrong with that, not wrong with that.

- It is pretty accurate actually. - I mean true but. - I remember I used to do it in a lake and I really hated it 'cause I couldn't see the floor. And so sometimes I would keep paddling and I would just slam my head into the fucking ground. - Oh God. - But I put my hands out and I would get my hand caught in all the like gross, like bottom seaweed. - You're slimy. - Yeah. And then I remember like one time I,

I don't know why. I was just such a stupid kid. I was just grabbing all this shit off the floor and like a fucking fish just flew out of it and hit me in my shoulder. It scared the fuck out of me. But also I hate how when you go like pretty deep, I really couldn't get,

get used to the pressure on my head. - No, I didn't go that deep to be fair. I mostly stayed, I dove a little bit and then I just, I never went too deep right on like the sea floor or anything like that. - I'd be like paddling, you know that Akira meme where his head is like, ah! I'd be doing that while I'm going down like, oh, fuck, this hurts. I don't know how people get used to it.

It hurts so fucking much. - I mean, I think the deepest I've been was like 10 or so meters. - Without like an oxygen tank, just straight up? - Yeah, well, I- - 10 hurts a lot, man. - I was doing like the astronaut helmet, like walking. - Oh, well that won't hurt your head. I mean, it's my head that hurts. - No, no, it will though, because you still have to get used to it. 'Cause the inside of the helmet is the same pressure. So you still feel, you still have to like, you know, like open up your ears and stuff like that. - Is it not pressurized to the,

I actually don't know how this works. - You have to gradually fall down so that your ears, you can get your ears to pressurize. - Oh, wait, does the option not pressurize to? - I don't think so. At least the one I did in the Philippines didn't. - I don't know. Wait, no, no. I don't know actually. - I don't know. - I don't know how this works. Either way, it fucking hurts your head when you dive too deep. - Yeah, yeah, definitely. - But yeah, I mean, it was just,

It was just cool seeing all the different fishes. I'd like, I'd never seen this many fish in my life. 'Cause I'm so used to go being terrified of the ocean because you go, sometimes you dive in and you feel something at the feet. - Oh fuck. - And I'm not used, like I'm used to just not having water clear enough to see anything below me. - Yeah. - And that's when I get fucking terrified. - Yeah, yeah. - Right? - I wouldn't mind if I can see it.

I'd be like, all right, that's kind of weird. But whatever, knowing that anything could be there freaks me out. - Not knowing what it is. - Yeah, I step on a jellyfish and just have the worst pain in my life in two seconds. I'm just like praying. - Have you ever stepped on a jellyfish before? - No, I'm terrified of it though. 'Cause it just sounds so bad. - Yeah, I'm fucking terrified of that as well. - I've been stung by one, yeah. - I've just heard the pain is excruciating. - Did you get a mate to piss on it?

- He just did that anyway. - He had to think about that. He had to think about that. - He just kept asking me to do it. - The first time, yes. - The first time, yeah. - Yeah, and then the second time I didn't because I learned from the first time that it doesn't do shit. - I just don't got a full tank ready to go. Like if you were freaking out, I don't think I could perform.

- I think I'd be like, oh, I just, oh, no. Try him, not try me. - Like you're in excruciating pain, it's just like, I have stage fright. - No, no, no, as in like me the pisser, if I was the pisser. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I feel like I just don't think I could piss on demand. - No, I couldn't. - If I need to piss, especially if I'm in the ocean, I probably piss like four times a week. - Yeah, also it doesn't do shit, so it doesn't even matter anyway. But yeah, it's a terrible pain. - It's like the shaking a Polaroid picture levels of advice. It's like everyone knows by now it doesn't help, but some people are like, yeah. - Outcast lied to us, man. You're not supposed to.

- Yeah, and we basically just were allowed to go island hopping as well. - That's the fun.

So we had a whole boat to ourselves and they were like, "Where do you wanna go? "Do you want like a guided tour?" Or sometimes we'd see- - Point to an island. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or if you just get, you've point a general direction, point to an island and then we can go explore that. And that was, I don't know, that was- - That's kind of me. - That was fucking cool. When I finally like, I learned kind of how a sail works as well, which I don't know. I guess like I,

We had an engine, but we had a sail as well. And I was just like, the wind's going,

not the direction that we're going. And I didn't know like my little baby brain was just like, okay, well how does sales work if the wind isn't going kind of like the direction that you're going in? - This is not how it worked in Wind Waker. - Yeah, that's not how it worked in Wind Waker. You had to literally change the direction of the wind. And I probably should have known this from like ages ago, but you know, ask the sailors. So how the hell- - They zigzag normally, right?

- No, no, no, no. - Well in his case he had an engine. - Oh, it was an engine. - No, no, it was an engine, but we had a sail as well. And for a lot of the times, unless we were going directly against the wind, we'd have the sail, you know, give us some extra propulsion. But actually the boats would go faster. Like the boat will go faster if the wind is not going directly behind you. - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah, it's when, so you angle the sail so that,

the sail creates a different pressure between like the angle of the wind that will create lift in a like, I guess like a directional, like in one direction that is not forward. And the rudder at the bottom will create lift or with like the water resistance will create lift in the opposite direction. So you,

you go- - It kind of cancels each other out. - Yeah, so they cancel each other out and you go forward. I was like, oh, that's interesting. So it doesn't, so unless you were going directly against the winds, you can use a sail to, you know, you can use a sail with the wind going in most directions to propel yourself in a completely different direction forward. - I did not know that. - Which I didn't know that. - When I was sailing, I had to,

you could go into the wind, but you'd have to zigzag. So if the wind's coming this way, you'd have to go like 45 degrees into it and then turn 45 degrees. And so you'd kinda have to do that. Obviously you do it for quite long stretches. It's not like you're always doing it 'cause obviously turning is a fucking pain in the ass. Was it a sail where you had to like duck under it or?

- No, no, it was like- - I got fucking hit in my head when I used to do it. So annoying. That's probably why I'm like this now. - How many brain cells have you lost? - Yeah. - Getting your head on a side. - Well, 'cause you sit down and when you're sitting down, it's head level. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So you have to like- - Lean back. - Lean back. - Yeah. - Just run to the other side.

- And then sailing too. - Geez. - I love sailing, sailing was so fun. - Yeah, it gave me an appreciation of just, you know, the kind of like the sea life and the sailor life.

Because you look one direction and there is just fucking nothing. Ocean as far as you can see. - Take that Flat Earthers. - And then you just imagine the excitement of just, you're going to sea or something. You're at sea for a while. You just see a piece of land and you're just like,

Let's go fucking check that out. What's on that piece of land? What's around there? - I was like, this is just like one piece. I feel like a pirate. - People were insane sailors back in the day. Imagine navigating the world by just a compass. That's fucked. - It's not even a compass. Imagine navigating the world using the position of the stars.

- Yeah, that's pretty crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause they were telling me we can't do it, but you know, we know some sailors who can have memorized the positions of the stars and obviously like the, you can tell by the time of day it is as well. And you know, some people are able to navigate using the North Star and their,

the knowledge of like the constellations and shit like that. And I'm like, that's fucking insane. - That's crazy. - That is absolutely insane. - It's built different. - And here I am, I can't remember the same road that I've turned off 500 fucking times after these Google maps. - And here we are in this generation where kids have memorized every Mr. Beast thumbnail. - We are not the same. - Real shit, real shit.

But that still nowhere, like I'm still terrified of the ocean. I remember there was this one point where they stopped us in the middle of the ocean. They checked, number one, I was like, is there anything dangerous around in these waters? And he's like, "Oh no, no, no, no. There's nothing too dangerous."

And so he was like, "Oh, do you wanna dive in the ocean?" I was like, "Cool, that sounds cool." And he's like, "Okay, just a moment. I just gotta check if there's any jellyfish around." And I was like,

"I thought you said it wasn't anything dangerous "in the ocean." And he's just like, "Oh no, no, no. "These kinds of jellyfish, they probably won't kill you. "They'll just, it'll just hurt a lot." - Well, he was technically correct. He was just avoiding severe pet peeves. - Yeah, it's like, "It's not gonna kill you. "Stop being a pussy." - It's like, "What is the level of- - Stop being a bitch and go in the water. - You don't understand. I'm British. Anything that causes pain to me is a higher level of danger than anything you guys are used to.

But yeah, I remember we stopped in the middle of the ocean and he was like, "Okay, do you wanna jump?" And I was like, "Can I say no?" - He's like, "Nope." - So they had this entire thing where you have like the proper pirate experience where they had like an entire plank and the ship was like,

The ship was a pretty big ship. It was like, you know, two stories. And just imagining, just imagine what the fucking pirates felt where you had a ship, it's the open ocean. I can't see shit and anything could be in the water. Fucking jellyfish. Said there might be baby sharks around as well, which apparently aren't dangerous, but. - I'm so upset that that was the first thing I thought of. - Yeah, but he was like, all right, do a jump.

And I was like, - Do a flip. - Do a flip. And he was like, "Do a pose for the camera as well." And so I go out first and I'm on the plank. And so I turned around, I looked down and I was like, "I don't know, this is a ship, but that looks a lot higher than what I'm used to." But I was like, you know, Olympic divers, they dive from like much further heights. It's whatever. - Yeah.

And so I turn around and Sydney's like, "Go on, go on you pussy. Go on, fucking do it." - Oh my Lord. - You're not gonna get a picture for our honeymoon? Go on, do it. And so I was like, "All right, three, two, one." I jump, I turn around and I try to do like a fucking pose like that.

So as I'm doing this pose, I didn't realize I shifted my center of gravity. I start spinning and I was like, okay, I should correct myself. As I'm correcting myself, you know in some moments you are stuck in two minds. So I'm starting to swivel, right? So I'm like, do I...

or should I try to go against the momentum and just try to pencil it? And being stuck in two minds, what ends up happening is I try to do both at the same time and realize that was a massive mistake. And before I could correct myself, I just have the biggest fucking Betty flop in my life.

- That must have fucking hurt. - I felt like I got hit by a truck. - Yeah, I mean, especially concrete at that point. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that was the biggest belly flop I've had in my life. I've done it in pools before, right? But not from like a massive ship. Mind you, I'm also in the middle of the ocean as well. So I just, luckily, luckily it hurt as hell.

I find my, God, I would have paid to see that. - Did you catch it on video or picture? - We have a picture of it, but he didn't film the entire video. Swim back to the boat. The guy brings me back up with the biggest smile on his face and he goes, "Do you wanna go again?" And I'm like, "No, I'm good, I'm good. I don't need to jump again."

It's like, you just ate shit, dog. - Yeah. - Damn. - Oh my Lord. - I would've paid to see that footage. - Yeah, but yeah, did that, went deep sea fishing as well, which was fucking cool. - You're checking off everything.

- Yeah, I mean, when you have like- - True maritime man. - Yeah, yeah, when you have like just a boat, you know, when you have a boat, I was like, "I wanna do all the cool shit at sea." - Yeah, for sure. - And that was fucking cool. - Great honeymoon then? - Yeah, good, good honeymoon. - Right on. - Yeah, I was, you know, I had a few other things that we did, but,

Probably save that for another podcast because that's gonna be a whole fucking long deal. - All right, okay. - We've been yapping already. - We've been yapping. - Yeah, we've been yapping. - We've enjoyed our yapping though, of course. - Yeah, absolutely. - Hope you have enjoyed our opinions on becoming cultured. - Fucked.

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