We Need a Break From YouTube | Trash Taste #19
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- Let me give you a second. Let me just. All right. Now I'm scared. I feel like a Dragon Ball fan now. - Yeah, I'm ready to talk about it. - No, you haven't done your steroids yet. What's up simps? Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm in Simplord number one and I'm with Simplord number two and three. We're tired, have you guessed?

I hope Mudan left that fucking shouting thing in at the beginning. 'Cause that is like, that's not an act. We sometimes do that just to wake ourselves up for the show. - Yeah, I'm taking a page from Connor's book and just, I was about to say taking a book from Connor's page and then I'm like, wait a minute, that doesn't sound right.

- So what have you guys been up to this week? I know Connor, you went on a trip, right? - I did, but before that I got the sick new shirt. - Where'd you get that sick shirt? - Probably the same place you got your sick shirt. - Same place Joey got his. - What? When was this?

- Yeah, that's right. We're finally releasing merch. After all this time, we've seen it on the subreddit, we've seen it on the Twitter and we're like, where's the merch guys? Where's the merch? Cash in on that merch, you know, be a modern YouTuber. We finally got our own Trash Taste t-shirts in white and in black. - Yes. So yeah, if you want to simp us, you can.

- Go to, where's the store again? - So this is a special deal that we're doing right now with our friend Bakuretsu who, if you guys can see the logo, he's the guy who designed the logo. And he decided to, this is an official collaboration merge for a limited time, only two weeks. So you have until I believe October.

24th, 12 p.m. Eastern time to pre-order these shirts. And hopefully by the time around Christmas time, maybe you guys will be able to get these shirts. You can get it in either white or black. So buy them. Buy them now.

- Yes, go buy them now. - I mean, this is more like kind of like an experiment for us. We were always talking about merch. So we didn't know how many of you would be interested. This is just like a first release. So if you like this, then we might do more much in the future, who knows? - Yeah, it's a very simple design, but we just wanted to start simple. - Yeah, just start simple, easy to know. - Materials are amazing, I gotta say boys. - Oh yeah, this is much better quality than what you'll get a regular t-shirt.

But so if you're interested in that, go to buckritsa.co/trashtaste, links in the description as well. And yeah, hopefully you guys will simp for us with these beautiful new shirts. - But yes, Joey, I did go on a trip. - Oh yeah, where'd you go? - I went to Niigata, which is Northern, North? - Yeah, it's like directly North of Japan. - Yeah, yeah. - Not Japan, directly North of Japan. - Directly North of Tokyo is what I was trying to say, yeah.

- And I had a friend, Kenta from university who actually loved the story parts from our university 'cause he was like correcting some of the details to me. - Oh really? - Yeah, yeah. And how like the neo-Nazi guy made like phosphorus chemical substances in the building.

- Were you fucking roommates with like Walter White or something? - Honestly, this guy was insane, man. But anyway, yeah, that was, it was nice meeting him again. I haven't seen him in ages and he lives in Northern Japan and he's a teacher there and a pastor and yeah, he's chill. - You say a pastor? - Pastor, yeah, he's a pastor. - Like P-A-S-T-O-R, not P-A-S-T-A. - A pastor. - He's a pastor. Linguini.

- Fuck, now I can't say it right. A pasta, it's a pasta. If I want to eat pasta, I would have that. But he said pasta. - Did you eat pasta with the pasta? - I did not. Yeah, 'cause in Japan there's a, this is gonna sound so dumb and condescending, but there's a job for like foreigners. 'Cause he doesn't even look that foreign. He still looks Japanese. He's half. - Yeah, right, right, right. - He's half Welsh, half Japanese.

his job is to basically repeat a script that a real pastor might, all for show. So they just want a foreign looking guy to like say the words. - He's not even like a legit pastor. - No, none of them are. It's like a fake service. So you pay a guy and he just says the lines and does all the moves and looks the whole, looks the real part, but like isn't a pastor. Like that's his job and he marries people. - Wait, wait, wait, how is that a job? In what job sector is this a needed?

- I think there's a huge market in Japan for like wanting like a foreign experience wedding. It's like a really like- - Could I find this on Craigslist? Like looking for fake- - No, it's expensive as well. He was telling me the price is like, it's premium. It's for like rich people. - Rich and dumb people, clearly.

- To us that's dumb as fuck, but to them it makes sense, right? So that's his job and yeah, he was basically like, "You wanna hang out in Niigata?" And I was like, "Sure, I wanna leave Tokyo. "I'm just sick of Tokyo." - How long were you there for? Like three or four days, right? - Yeah, three days, yeah. So the first day I didn't really do, oh, the first day I went out with him at night and he took me to a bunch of girl bars, which are not like hostess bars, 'cause hostess bars, they sit next to you. It's just like a bar where the girls are on the other side.

Normally it's like 40 year old, 50 year old men just like. - From what I understand is a girl bar is just where the bartender or whoever's like your waitress is just obligated to talk to you.

- Yeah, so we went to like- - Is that right? - Yeah, yeah, we went to a bunch though. - It's like a really expensive call center, but it's like one on one. - So some of the prices weren't bad. Like the first one we went into, the girls like only spoke to the other girls. Not that I'm like fucking pay me attention. I'd never been to one. He was like, "Do you wanna go to one?" And he was like, "Do you wanna see them all?" And I'm like, "Sure, why not? This will be a fun story to tell and trash taste, which is worth more than money."

So yeah, the first one was like 900 yen for 30 minutes. - That's cheap. - So you could drink as much as you want in that 30 minutes. And it went very slowly because the people were no fun there.

- Well clearly that explains the price. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So we just like banter with them. Like one of them was saying that they can't understand English characters and in Japanese I asked them like, can you read Kanji? And they were like, yes. And then I was like, I rest my case. - Wait, as in like they can't read the alphabet? - Yeah, they've been studying it for like five years and couldn't read the English alphabet. - What? How? - And I'm like, yeah, but then exactly. So I was like, so you can read Kanji, right? In Japanese she's like, yes. And I'm like, hmm.

All the old dudes in the bar laugh and I'm like, hell yeah dude. And everyone clapped and stood up. - He said it boys. - So then we like, we left that bar and immediately like four people were like, yo. And I was like, oh nice. You know these guys? And he's like, no. And I'm like, oh, we're following them? He's like, yeah, why not? And I'm like, okay, cool. So we're following them and they take us to a bunny bar

- Oh, like everyone's in a bunny costume. - Is that what I think it is? Everyone's just in a bunny suit. - Yeah, but due to COVID, they weren't in the bunny suits, they're in bunny school girl outfits. And I thought this was a cop out 'cause they're wearing school outfits. - But with the bunny ears. - But with bunny ears. - That's like every cosplayer who says they cosplay and they just wear headbands.

- We walked in there and it was exactly like what you think. It looked like, to quote Joey, a bunch of ugly bastards. It was like 50 year old men who looked like really, really like- - Just craving for attention, right? - Yeah. - And we sat down and we looked at the prices and it was like 50 bucks for 30 minutes. And then, so we were like,

So we're leaving, right? Like we're not staying. And then he looked at me, he's like, "Yep, yep." I'm like, "Cool, so I'm just gonna go now, "then you follow me." So we just did that. And then the guys who came- - Oh, so you didn't look sauce, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ditched the guys who took us there. They were like, "Oh, where you going?" And we were like, "Nah, bye, bye, bye." Went to another bar and that was a lot of fun. We just spent all night and then somehow,

some sketchy dude was like, "Come to another bar I know." We don't, never met this guy. We go there. - At what time of the night was this? - It's like 2:00 AM. - Okay. - 2:00 AM we got taken to another bar and we get in there and it's like a drag queen bar. - Right. - And like proper gay bar. - Yeah. - And it was a lot of fun. And yeah, I sing, sung Bohemian Rhapsody and I was butchering it. And I knew the guy next to me was like, you know, playing very nice. 'Cause he was saying I was singing great. And I'm like, no, no, I'm not.

- I feel alive. This is just. - Yeah, it doesn't matter who you're with, right? No one can sing Queen well. Everyone butchers Queen. - It's like, you're a very attractive guy, but you don't need to lie to me. You can just, you know what I mean? - I know I'm butchering. - I know, I know I'm shit at this. You cannot make this more obvious. And then we just went to another bar and just chatted shit with the people. I feel like my Japanese got way better when I was,

- I don't know why, but it's the same as my Japanese is my Thai where when I get like a few drinks down me, somehow your language skills just improved by like five fold. I don't know why. - Stop doubting yourself. You just say shit. - You just say shit. - It's really weird though because like that works for every language except English.

- It's so funny. Like I forget how to speak English. So sometimes I just like, like when I get super drunk, I noticed last time we got drunk in that onsen, you just like started speaking Japanese. - Oh yeah. - And I'm just like, I totally get that. 'Cause when I get drunk, I just start speaking Thai as well. - Yeah. I'm just like, I don't know. So many people have told me like when I get blind drunk, it doesn't matter if no one around me can speak Japanese, I only speak Japanese. And I'm like really fucking proficient. Like I'm reciting like a fucking like,

like MLK speech in Japanese. And meanwhile, like if I go back to English, I just be like more drink here. I just turn caveman when I go English for some reason, I don't know why. - I bought a souvenir.

- Oh, souvenirs. - Little green bean things. - Connellant to bring gifts. - Well, I guess 'cause Joey brought- - After I pressured them. All right, don't worry folks, we found them. They were just behind us the entire time. - So I'm guessing 'cause Joey started this, now we have to bring things back when we go somewhere. - Yeah, of course. - I was told this is a famous Niigata thing. What is this, Joey?

- It is sasa dango. - Of course, I mean, I can read that. - That's my favorite. - But what is it Joey? Tell us. - I know of it. I've heard of it before, but I've never actually- - Should we dig in? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically this is banana leaves. I'm pretty sure. And it's just like a dango, which is like a, not a dumpling, what's the word for it? - Mochi? - Yeah. - Oh, red bean paste kind of like- - Yeah, kind of like a red bean paste. It's got red bean in it.

- Crack it open. - Yeah, but basically you just crack this open. I've never actually had one before. I've seen, I know what these are. - Right. - 'Cause I've seen them around because all sorts of different, 'cause I think there's different types of Sasadango for different areas of Japan. - Wow, that's- - Look at that. - Wow. - That's some Satoru shit right there. - Yeah.

I also, for Joey's birthday, I got him a bottle of wine from Niigata. - Oh, thank you. - Which, I don't know which one you want, Joey. Then I bought one for the Trash Taste Boys. These are both Niigata wines. - Yeah, 'cause you stayed in a onsen that had a winery in it or something, right? - Yeah, I went to visit it. I didn't stay in it 'cause it was like $800 a night and yeah, Trash Taste ain't doing that well yet.

But yeah, no, so I did try a lot of the local wines while I was there and I thought they were actually pretty good. And I thought, why not bring back a wine for the boys? - I noticed with Japanese wine, 'cause I remember where I went to, I can't remember, I think it's Kosher Valley.

where it's kind of like the Napa Valley of Japan. And I tried a lot of the local wines there. - Really good. - And I find that Japanese wines are either really good or not so great. - Holy shit. - I've never tried a Japanese wine and I've just been like, "Hmm, this is okay." - I love that this is considered Japanese wine. It's like, "Oh yes, my favorite Japanese wine, Zweigeltre.

I probably butchered that German. - Oh, what the fuck? - It says Japan at the front though, so you know it's good. - This is like the weirdest unboxing I've ever done. But yeah, we are unboxing- - This is really fucking- - Banana- - Pasted on. - So you have to, because this thing is thick, you have to kind of take it in small chunks. Don't eat the whole thing because you will choke on it and possibly die.

- Are you serious? - Oh yeah, no, people, you know it's like really common way that people die here is they, like a lot of old people die from choking on dango and mochi. - What the fuck? - Yeah. - Health hazard. - Just bite into this thing? - Yeah. - This reminds me of a Thai dish. There's a Thai dish that's something similar. - Just do small chunks, yeah. - Yeah, it's like we, in Thailand, we have like banana leaves that are like sticky rice wrapped in banana leaves.

- It's actually pretty nice. - Yeah? - I'm not gonna eat it all in one. - That does taste like a banana leaf. - I like this. - Yeah, it's pretty good. - Hard to describe the flavor though. I mean, other than the red bean. - I mean like, okay. For anyone who hasn't tried red bean paste, it's, how do you describe to someone who hasn't tried red bean paste before?

- Oh dude, it's weird. It's hard. - You guys like it, right? - I like it, but it's- - It's grown on me. Red Bean Paste was that one thing where as like, I don't know,

- As somebody who grew up in the West, my idea of desserts or sweets basically just boiled down to chocolate and ice cream. If I'm feeling super fancy or something, something like a tiramisu or a cake or something like that. Having shit like red bean paste and red mochi and stuff,

I'm like, man, this tastes really good. - Yeah, I've always been fascinated in the whole like Japanese sweets, like culture, I guess, like food culture. - It's weird man, they go crazy with this. - It's called wagashi, for those of you who wanna know. But like dango, mochi, that kind of stuff is like, it's weird because a lot of wagashi, a lot of Japanese sweets can either be sweet or depending on what you put with it, they can also be savory. So it's like a weird, 'cause like this, for example, it's sweet,

but it's not like a chocolate sweet, right? Or like a tiramisu sweet. It's almost a savory sweet, if that makes sense. But I mean, like my dad, for instance, like can't eat red bean paste just because it's weird. He likes the flavor, but he doesn't like the texture. Yeah, it's super, super thick. It's just basically- It's like grainy, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like sludgy, I don't know.

- We're throwing a lot of different adjectives out and then none of them are matching. - It's because like there's nothing I can point to in like that people can just ground that texture with in like the West or something. It's just something, it's thicker than ice cream.

but it's a bit like pasty as well. I don't fucking know. - Just eat it. - I'm doing an awful fucking job. - Just try it out, just eat it. - But like the one dessert I haven't like enjoyed as much as I thought I would have, like based on the hype that everyone talks about it is shaved ice.

- Japanese shaved ice. - Shit, shit, shit. - It's basically just like a Japanese version of a snow cone essentially. - People fucking love it here and I'm like, just get an ice cream. - Yeah, like sometimes you don't want an ice cream. Sometimes you want something a little more refreshing than an ice cream. - I don't know, like, because here there are some shaved ice places that people will line up to for fucking an hour. - Okay, I don't get that shit. Like I'll just fucking make it at home. Like I'm not gonna like, 'cause there are some like shaved ice places that are like, there's stores that specialize in shave ice, right?

And I'm like, what's the difference between making it at home, making here? It was like, oh no, no. Like Maylene fucking, 'cause she's a fucking food critic right now, producer. She's like, oh, I found this like amazing shaved ice place, but there's like a two hour line every day. I'm like, why are people lining up for it? It's like, oh, it's like fluffy.

That's not what I look for in a Shady Dice. - After like two minutes after you've been given it, like it all just starts melting to the point where it's just doesn't taste good. - It's just slush. It's like having a slush puppy with extra sugar on it. - And like, I don't like it, the places when they just have like chocolate sauce squirted on shit. Like how can you sit there and tell me something is worth two hours wait when you've just got a bottle of like chocolate squeeze shit on it. - Like a whole cheese chocolate sauce. - Yeah, it's like this shit, you can't.

You literally have to put chocolate sauce on water and people lining up two hours for this shit. Are you kidding me? Like gelato, that shit is amazing, man. I love that shit. So fresh. - I like gelato. - Gelato gang rise up. - Oh no, I absolutely love gelato. I had like proper authentic gelato in- - What do you mean it's all right?

- What the fuck do you mean it's all right? - I had to stop my thought there. I'm like, excuse me? - It's just thick ice cream, let's be honest guys. Let's not build this up. You have one fucking bite and you're like, man, I just had a three course meal and that bite, I'm good. - Okay, I had legit like,

I don't want to say, it's weird to say homegrown. - In Italian? - Yeah, I had like legit gelato in like Florence in Italy. And that shit was the fucking bomb. - Oh yeah, it's the best. - I thought gelato here and like in Australia was good, but then I had it in Florence. I'm like, damn, this hits different.

- Italians man, they know how to make fucking gelato. - They know how to make good gelato. - I love you, Italy. Please keep making gelato. - Yeah, Florence, please keep making gelato. - Never change, never change, Italy. - Never change, never change. Yeah, but I don't know. Are there any other Japanese sweets that you guys like? - Melon pan, melon pan's great. - Melon pan? Is that considered a sweet? - Yeah. - I mean, that just goes back to the bread conversation where a lot of things just happen to be sweet. - It's sweet bread. - Are they really sweets?

- It's more of a sweet than bread, I'd say. - Well, yeah, things like melon pan and like chocolate cornets are considered like , which is a sweet bread or like a confectionary bread. That's what it's called. - Cornets. - Yeah, chocolate cornets. - Like the cornetto. - No, no, no. - That's what I thought as well. I'm like, is he talking about a cornetto? - No, no, no, chocolate cornets are like the ones that fucking, that cornets are eaten in Lucky Star.

- Oh, those ones. - Like the little like swirly things with the chocolate inside of them. - The poopy ones. - The poopy ones, yeah. - The poopy bread. - They look like poop, right? - It's the poopy bread, right? - And then you bite it and then a black shit just comes out. - It just comes out. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - I've never seen this. - Have you not seen it? - No. - I'll show you, but you've definitely seen it. It's got like the big hole at the bottom where they squeeze the chocolate into.

And the entire debate, like Lucky Star started this entire debate of like, which side do you eat the chocolate corner from? The fat end or the thick end? And the entire first episode of Lucky Star is that.

That's how an anime opens. - Yeah. - Yeah, but it's great. But like those, but there's lots of those kinds of bread in Japan. And then there's like the savory bread, right? - Yeah. - But for some reason they also make the savory bread sweet in a sense. So I'm just- - There's just nothing that's savory in Japan. - There's nothing savory. And when it comes to bread, there's nothing savory. It's weird enough, like this kind of shit is more savory sometimes than the bread that you get, right?

- It's like, what do you want? Something savory. Okay, so just a little bit of sugar, right? It's like, no, no, no, no sugar. So just, just, just one teaspoon of sugar. Is that what you're talking about?

- It goes back to the whole like Thai dish with like spice, right? It's like, what do you mean no spice in a Thai dish? - That's not an option. - Like one chili, right? - But like I noticed with Japan, the fucking, there's so many different types of sweets and I feel like it's because of the gift giving culture here because there seems to be like a gift for every occasion and every kind of relationship you have. - So dumb. - Yeah. - So dumb. - There's my favorite example of just,

the gift giving culture that is just way too intense is Valentine's day in Japan. - Yeah. - Oh my God. - White day Valentine's day. - Yeah. - Well, I mean, there's the whole concept of like Valentine's day, which is, you know, on the usual February 14th. And then there's white day, which is March 14th.

- See the only reason I know this is because of anime. Because there's that one episode in every romance or harem anime where like the girl or the guy is just rushing to get some fucking chocolate for the other character. - The girl is always like, so shit at making the chocolate and has to stay up all night. And the chocolate sucks but the main protagonist is like, no it's still good. It doesn't matter because she poured her heart

- I'm so into this, you know? - It's one week before, right? - What? - White day. - No, white day is March 14th. It's a month after. So what it is is- - After? - Yeah. - Oh, fuck. - Yeah, so Valentine's day traditionally, right? In every other country is guys give chocolates to the girls, girls give chocolates to the guys, right? Like that kind of shit.

- Yeah, that's the traditional way. - I think so. - I think so. But in Japan, Valentine's day is specifically a day where the girls give chocolates to the guy. - This is right, because I remember this, I was like six. You get like a month to like analyze their gift and be like, all right, how much am I gonna spend?

- And then white day is basically, you have a month to basically- - Connor gets out his spreadsheet and he's just like, okay. - Because, right? - You have a month to optimize. - What's the worst thing about having, you're both gonna buy a gift for each other at the exact same time? - This is why I hate Christmas. - No, exactly. - This is why I fucking hate- - Because, right? You have to like either mind read each other and be like, how much is he gonna spend? Or you gotta just straight up be like,

Max 20 quid, you saying max 20 quid? You know what I mean? So that's great because- - But like, I hate having the conversation before Christmas. Like, we're setting a budget on this, right? We're like, this is our budget. - Yeah, so that's great. I remember this 'cause then I got a gift and I was like sick. So I can just either not give you a gift back

if I don't see you again in a month. Or I can plan it out what I'm gonna give you. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, usually it's the whole idea of like the guy has to give an equal amount or because Japan is always like this. - Gotta one up it. - Gotta one up it. The guys have to one up the girls, right? - Or just say psych and don't date her anymore. - True, but here's the thing, right? In Japanese Valentine's day, I know 'cause I made a whole video on this. There's three different types of chocolates you can give.

- Really? - Yeah. So there's, okay, so there's , which is the chocolate that a girl gives to a guy who the girl like really likes, you know, it's like the one basically. And then there's , which is a chocolate that a girl gives to a guy that she has had some kind of like, you know-

- Dude, someone literally just saw the Apple pricing for the phone. Let's do that with chocolate. - Yeah, pretty much. So basically like Giri Choco is like, say like, you know, if like Maylene, for example, right? She's our producer, like we work together. So she would give us Giri Choco because we work together. We're involved in her life in some way.

- Is there ever a point where you're like, stop, I can't eat this chocolate. This is Kiri chocolate. We're on the tier above this. - Exactly. - I can't eat this. - I can't believe you thought about me like this, man. I thought we were closer than this. - But like, yeah, and then there's that, right? And traditionally that's where it ended. But recently there's a third type of chocolate called Tomo chocolate, which is where girls will give chocolates to other girls who they're friends with.

- I hate this so much. - Oh my God. - So Japan is somehow just fucking- - They've spreadsheet chocolate. - They've spreadsheet Valentine's day, basically. - It's spreadsheet and gifts because I remember I had a conversation last week with someone who is like the manager of like Teddy Lloyd and Miyavi. One of Meilyne's friends. And she was telling me about how she like every time she has a new client or like someone she has to manage, Japanese culture is that they have to give a gift. So she goes to this department store

to like get this gift for this new band or something. And then the department clerk literally asked them, okay, how well do you know them? What's your relationship with them? And then she answers that. And then the next question was, so where are you giving it to them? Are you giving it to the dressing room? Are you giving it in the office? And like she literally had a fucking spreadsheet. Apparently she pulls out a catalog depending on what answers she was given to give the perfect gift. - This is extreme flow chart.

- Jesus Christ. - I don't mean, it's just like, dude, it's just some fucking, it's just at the end of the day, it's just a bunch of sweets. You know what I mean? You know what, this is the equivalent to, this is the equivalent to like, you know, doing those like personality questionnaires at the start of RPGs to see like which partner you get. But then after you fill it out, you have all the options open to you anyway. - That's exactly what it is.

- It's the fucking Facebook quiz. - Yeah, exactly. - Which character are you? - Which Valentine's day gift are you? - Oh my God. - Japan has not only done this for Valentine's day, they've done it for like Christmas, they've done it for like Halloween. They've done it for everything. They've just completely somehow made everything like a million times more complicated than it should be.

- As if life here isn't stressful enough. - Yeah, right. - With all the fucking paperwork you gotta fill out for everything. - And then you got shit like, you know, or sayable and or to again, which is like giving gifts at like certain times of the year and shit to people and it's just. - This is why I'm glad that we don't work exactly in an office environment. - Oh, fuck.

Like we work with people who understand foreign culture and everything like that. So I don't have to, because if I'm working in a Japanese company, I'd be so fucking stressed out. - Not even my work, right? Just kidding. Like not fucking up with these gifts. - Imagine going to a company party or going to like a company drinking session and you just don't know how to act. 'Cause that's me, right?

- Jesus. - Only in Japan will you go to the office and you're more stressed out about your like social status than you are the actual work that you're involved in. Like I'm stressed enough thinking, am I giving my business card the right way? - Oh yeah. - You know what I mean? - Because there's rules to that as well. - There is rules to that. - Yeah. - I just wanna like swap business cards, but no, it's like, is it pointed the right way? Am I, I'm like, we have to give it at the same time. - Dude, I had the situation where I had to give my business cards recently. And I had a, Maylene was there, so I had like a 10 hundred IQ move. I'm like, oh no, no, my manager will do it.

- And then Meilyne's just like, "Sweats." - I'm like, "I'm not gonna give my business card. My manager will give you her business card." - I do that to Meilyne as well. Every time we're in a business meeting, I'm like, "Meilyne, swap contact with this person." - Do the thing, Meilyne. You can handle it. - It's the opposite for me because she knows that I can speak Japanese, so she waits for me to go first. - But in reality, I've just forgotten my business card.

- I don't carry them with me, man. 'Cause I don't wanna fucking carry them. - It's because you have to have a separate business card holder. And I've not gotten to the point where I have enough business meetings where I could be like networking at any point of time. And it just looks tacky. If you just pull out your business card and it's in like your bag,

beaten ass wallet with 20 other million cards in it. That just doesn't look cool. - You know what bullshit rule I found out the other day in Japan? If I wanna leave my apartment building for more than two weeks, I need to get permission. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it more than two weeks for you? For us it's a month. - More than two weeks, I gotta get like permission to leave my house. - Oh yeah, that is, that is the thing. - You do know why that's the case though, right? - Why is that the case? - It's because there's a lot of cases in Japan of people running away.

They leave the house, they basically escape. - Isn't that what a guarantor is for? - Well, no, because if the guarantor can't chase you up, then- - But the guarantor has to pay, right? Isn't that the whole point? - No, no, you send the money to the guarantor and then the guarantor has to pay. But if you're not sending any money to the guarantor, then the guarantor can't do anything. - Oh, I thought the whole point was the guarantor pays if you can't pay.

- That's if the guarantor is nice enough. - I guess I can understand if they're worried about that, but then also, I don't know, it's just weird living in the UK where you, I don't know, it just seems like I'd never want to have to ask if I can leave. - Yeah, sure. - That's weird. - You have to ask permission to do everything. - Two weeks? That seems like a little, a month I can kind of understand. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, yeah. - So yeah, so like every time Aki and I go to like the US for example, like last year, like before the whole pandemic thing, when we were in America for like three months at a time or something,

I have to call them up. I mean, it's super easy. - I can imagine though they never say no. - No.

- It's just weird though that they might say like, no, you can't go. - Well, I mean, for us it's easy because I just say, oh, it's for work. And they're like, okay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - They don't question it. But if it's like, you know, I have to attend an anime convention, then maybe they'll be like, mm, all right. - If they were like grilling you, I'd be like, mind your own fucking business, I pay you. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, oh my gosh. I remember I saw a few comments that were like, man, Connor fucking hates Japan. Why is he living there? He's so ungrateful, man.

And it's like, nah, I wanna- - Privilege. - I guess we do often point out the things that we don't like about Japan a lot, but that's because I think a lot of people in my mind view Japan as this like utopian country. - Yeah.

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Well, I mean, like we have complaints about any country.

- Yeah, we're British. I mean, I'm gonna complain about anything. I'll find a complaint with something I love. - I love it, but fuck I hate it. - Yeah, exactly. When I lived in Thailand, there were like so many things that I didn't like about living in Thailand, but there's things I fucking love as well. So it's all like a give and take wherever you live. Like the more, it's funny, right? 'Cause when I was a kid, I was like, I wanna live in here. I wanna live in X. It'd be cool if I lived there.

But like the more I move around and the more I travel, the less I know where I wanna settle down. 'Cause like the more I travel, the more I'm like, man, I really love this one thing about that one place, but man, I really hate that one thing about that one place. And I really want me to like, I don't know, like this COVID situation has just made me feel trapped in this country. - Oh, for sure, for sure. - This has probably been like one of the longest I've gone through in my entire life without flying somewhere.

- Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Like for me as well, like this is the longest I've been in Japan for like an extended period of time without going anywhere. And I've definitely, I don't know. I haven't noticed anything new about or knew about, you know, like any of the good parts about living here or any of the bad parts, but I don't know. It's made me appreciate the things that I really like and fucking despise the things that I hate. It's like to another level. - Yeah, yeah. I wake up every day and I walk past my router and I just smile.

Damn, I have a gigabyte download and upload. That's just beautiful. I love to see it, dude. - I don't know why I heard you say Naruto. - Naruto. I just get sit by it, I'm like, damn, you're good. - Damn. - Damn, you do your job good. - Yeah. - What is it? - 'Cause the UK fucking sucks for internet. - You're talking to the Australian here. - Oh yeah, true. - Don't talk to me until you've experienced a 0.4 upload. - No, dude, 'cause in...

In fucking Wales, man, you would get like- - Yeah, but you live in the middle of fucking nowhere. - Yeah, right, so you would, they'd be like, "Oh yeah, we only have copper wire, by the way. We're not gonna put any other wire down. Here's your 0.1 download that doesn't work half the time." And it's like, "Cool." And then they charge you like fucking $80 a month for it. It's like, "Okay."

- Why? It doesn't work. - That's what it was like for us in Australia. So we had a couple of wires everywhere. - And then they say that like, oh, someone will come on this day and then no one fucking turns up. That happened so many times. Oh, they turn up, they'd be like, yeah, we're gonna send someone to fix it. They turn up and they're like, yeah, I have no idea what's wrong with it. - Like especially in Australia, the whole, if I were to sum up the whole like just

service business side of things in one phrase, it would just be, well, that was a fucking lie. Like the service men never show up on time. Transport never fucking shows up on time. Like, oh my God, the Sydney transport, I don't know about other parts of Australia, but Sydney transport had to have been one of the worst I've ever experienced. - Really? - Okay, so I had to catch a bus every day to go to uni, right? And this bus turns up every 20 minutes. That's what it says.

on the timetable at the stop, right? So I'm like, okay, cool. This next one's coming in 10 minutes. 10 minutes passes, no bus. Like not a single bus. I'm like, did I miss it while I was looking down at my phone? Where is it? All right, whatever. Another 10 minutes, doesn't show up. Like, okay. But then five minutes before the next bus shows up, the previous bus shows up. But because the bus is full, it doesn't stop. So I'm like, not only are you 15 minutes late, but this motherfucker didn't

- You fucking have that in like Wales as well. This boy's lucky, he grew up in a city. - I mean, technically. - Oh shit. - He grew up in Sydney. - I grew up in Sydney. - What the fuck? - Which is like the biggest city. - One of the biggest city in Australia. - Like my bus, that was the one that I used to, if I wanted to go to England, like Chester, I would have to get this bus and it was every 30 minutes. Problem was, is that it was always give or take 30 minutes late.

like 30 minutes late or early. So the whole, you basically just had to just go there and wait. And like, if it said like, you know, half three, it would just turn up at four. And then you were like, is this the next bus that's early? Or is it this bus that's late? I don't know. It's basically fucking massive. - Yeah, it was bad as well because not only did, well sometimes the bus is late, but sometimes the bus would come five minutes early because

I don't know, it just happened to speed run all the fucking traffic lights. - It wasn't really a schedule, it was just like a rough estimate of time. - It's like a recommended route. We should probably get here by this time. - Recommended time of arrival. - Don't stick around though, fuck those kids. Yeah, and it's the same with like package deliveries. In the UK, I hated it 'cause they would say between eight

8:00 AM and 8:00 PM, be at your house. And it's like, well, so I just got to be at the house the whole fucking day? - For 12 hours? - Yeah, 'cause you just said Tuesday. Like that is eight to eight, you know what I mean? And then it wouldn't even turn up on the day sometimes. So it's like, what is he, what the fuck? - Meanwhile, here in Japan, we just got a couch for the office just this morning, right? And we set it for 12:00 PM to 2:00 PM, right? Two hour window, perfect.

- The couch arrives at 12:01. - Yeah, yeah. - And they phone you as well. - And they phone you to make sure. - They phone you to make sure that you're in and they can come and everything. And it's beautiful. - And then if you miss it, you can also just reschedule. Say if you miss it at like 8:00 AM, you can reschedule it the same day for it to come out like 4:00 PM. - Yeah. - Which is like insane. 'Cause in the UK, if you miss it, it's like, right, well next month we have a schedule, we have a slot three. And it's like, what?

- It was horrible pre-ordering games and the games would turn up like four days late and then you might miss it. And they just wouldn't post it through the letterbox. So you gotta call them up or go online and then it'd be like, oh, we have a free slot in five days. It's like five days? I pre-ordered this game. We need five days. - See, because back when I was living in Australia, I know I got a lot of comments about this, but we have Amazon now in Australia.

But back when I was living in Australia- - Congratulations. - Yeah, I know. We finally got it. Because people are like, "Joey, what are you talking about? We do have Amazon." Back when I was living in Australia, we didn't have Amazon. Back in my days, we didn't have Amazon. - I don't know what I would do. - Joey's an Australian boomer now. - I'm an Australian boomer. I'm an Aussie boomer. - Back in my day. - Back in my day, we didn't have Amazon yet. Amazon's only a recent thing that got introduced to Australia because we only had eBay. - Yeah. - Wow. - Why would you use eBay for anything?

- Yeah, like I still have never experienced Amazon now or the comforts of like living in a place where you can just get your package literally hours after you fucking order it. - I mean, especially coming from me who never experienced Amazon until moving to Japan. The first week of me experiencing Amazon, I was like, I feel like a God. Like I can just get things delivered now.

without having to wait arduous amounts of time. - Yeah, I don't know how people moved to Japan before Amazon existed as like a Gaijin. Oh my God. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I guess my house just wouldn't be furnished for like a month, I guess, or even more. And fuck knows how I would just get like normal necessities that I just,

- You can't find in stores or anything like that. - Yeah, right, it's like, oh, you know, I need a phone charger. I could just, you know, go on Amazon, get it delivered probably the same day, or I could trek 30 minutes by train to the closest big camera to buy one measly cable. It's like, why would I do that? - Tokyo doesn't have this, but London did. London had Amazon Now, and it was basically like two hour windows. If you ordered it, it would come in two hours. - Oh, wow. - Yeah.

- Pretty good. - Yeah, it was insane. - Like expedited shipping? - Yeah, like sometimes we would be at a house party and we'd run out of alcohol. - You could order alcohol. - And like, instead of going to the Tesco's, we'd literally just order our alcohol off Amazon. - Yeah. - Wow. - And it would just turn up like an hour later when we were like low on beers. - Yeah, yeah. - This is the future. - Yeah, like a whole crate. And then also like, I remember I ordered the crate of beer and like a Nintendo Switch game and I was like sick. So I was like- - It's like, who ordered the Switch game? - Yeah, so yeah.

- Yeah, he was at a party and they were like, "Who ordered fucking Mario Party Super?" Sorry, Super Mario Party. And I'm like, "No, that's me." - It was at the bottom of the sixth grade. - I just really wanted to play Mario Party. - I was just really fucking jealous of the guy in the other room who was playing it. I really wanted it, man. - That's awesome though. - I think on the internet, it was quicker to get it delivered on Amazon now than it was to download it and like,

- Oh wow. - Because the download speeds are shit. - Oh yeah, yeah, true, true. - That's like first world problems in a nutshell. Download too slow, just order it off Amazon. It's slightly faster. - Oh God. - Yeah, 'cause when I used to make,

I had to leave my PC on all night and a bit on the next day and I couldn't use it because if this is just upload files for Evan to edit, I would have to leave it on all night hoping that when I woke up, they were all uploaded. Otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to use my PC.

So yeah, that was a pain in the ass. Now I just upload it on one hour. - Because that's the problem with the copper wiring, right? Is that like when you're using an upload, for example, like really heavily, the download has to compensate for the upload. - Oh, it's garbage. - So yeah, so like every time I would like upload a video at like 1:00 AM, right? I couldn't use the internet because I had legitimately like fucking dial-up speed. - I was about to say, you're going back to dial-up at this point. - It was legitimately dial-up speed. Like I couldn't, it took like two minutes to load up Twitter. And I'm just like, I can't, I can't, I can't.

I can't do this. - I can't live like this. - I can't do this, man. Why would you do this to me? - Yeah, it's crazy. And they said like the company's just a throttle, my internet all the fucking time. - God, were you a virgin? - Yeah. - Fucking virgin, man. - Virgin Media fucking sucks. - My God. - What a virgin company. - They really were a virgin company. - They're not a chat company at all. - 'Cause like they were, they on paper, they give you the best internet speeds that you can get. - 100 megabytes download. - Yeah. - Never fucking saw it once. - You never see it.

at peak times, man, you are not getting anywhere close near to what they advertise to you. - The moment you upload or download anything as well, they immediately throttle you and I had to call them up so many times. I'm like, "Hey, turn that shit off. "I paid for this."

And they charge you so much. - We're going back to the days of dialogue where you have to be like, "Mom, get off the phone. I'm downloading a game." - I had to do that with my little brother when I used to play league at home. I'd be like, my ping would go from like, it'd be 60, 60, 150. - I remember- - I went, "Get off the fucking corn hunk, Owen."

- Like whenever I remember back in university, whenever you were living in like a shared house, my God, trying to game in a shared house is fucking impossible. Cause yeah, your ping would just, your ping would either be like 10 when no one's awake or when did it, when it's dinnertime, it's like fucking 800. I'm like, who's fucking dead?

- I'm just fucking downloading another episode of Game of Thrones. Everyone's torrenting some shit. - Everyone puts their hands up. - I mean, it was fucking worse for me because when I was doing YouTube, like back in Australia, all of my YouTuber friends were in America, right? So every time I'd jump onto like G mode or something, on a good day, my ping would be like 300.

I'll be like, guys. - Why even play at 300 ping? - 'Cause I was desperate for friends. - When were you? - I didn't have any YouTuber friends in Australia. - There must be a formula for like ping correlation with how desperate you are to hang out with that person. 'Cause I play League of Legends a lot with Didis and Emily and it's like 200 ping and I'm like,

"Man, this sucks, but it's really fun." Damn, I wouldn't do this. - Oh yeah, no, I mean 300 ping G-Mod was still fun. But I mean, yeah, no one could kill me because I just keep fucking teleporting. - The lag compensation. - What is the value of friendship, right? Is it 300 ping? - What is your ping limit? - We should break down the value of friendship by ping number. It's like, would I pay 160 ping for you? Yeah, I'll pay you that. - 800 ping, ultimate friend.

- 100 pings, just an acquaintance. - I just wanna talk to you, man. That's all I want. - Yeah, so you used to upload daily on that garbage internet? - I sure did. - Oh my God. - And that's why my computer exploded, remember? - How did you not get like burn out from that? I think I would like hate- - I mean, I did get burned out after like two and a half years of doing that because I quit Let's Plays a week before I moved to Japan. - I remember when you quit that and I thought like, good.

- Yeah, everyone was like, good, you should have done that. And I think I did it at the perfect time because that was just around the time, like early 2015, that was around the time when gaming was kind of starting to dip. Like just overall, that's when YouTube kind of shafted all of gaming YouTube, right? It was like no more spotlight for you. - Oh yeah, that's around 2015. - Which like speaking about that, have you guys like in your YouTube careers ever properly experienced burnout?

- Oh yeah. - When was the last time you guys experienced burnout? - Last time I experienced like proper burnout was maybe, this was back before I was living with Aki. And I was just living on my own. And yeah, I just had like,

like maybe for like half a year where I was just constantly, like all I was thinking about was like, all right, what's the next video? What's the next video? I gotta keep one upping myself and like just coming up with ideas because even back then I think I was maybe uploading like once every three days or something. So not as intense as daily, but still pretty fucking intense, right? Especially because now I wasn't doing Let's Plays anymore.

I was doing straight up like, I was writing a script every fucking day. So that shit burned me out like a hell of a lot. And there was like a point where I was legitimately like, should I just like stop? Like, should I just stop YouTube for a while? But then I was like, nah, ain't worth it. - I think a lot of people, the viewers heard a lot about like the mystical YouTube burnout and what it means.

Like what are they like, can you like try and explain? - At this point when I, I'm sure like for like a viewer hearing burnout, hearing burnout is just like, oh, let's just get off the YouTuber checklist. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's kind of just become a cliche now. It's like, oh, you reached burnout, okay.

- Okay. - It's like, all right, see you in a couple of days. You'll be over it soon. Like people think that YouTuber burnout is just like, I don't know. - Woe is me. - Yeah, kind of a woe is me, like a very privileged first world problem. But I think like, it's just another form of like creator burnout, right? And if you've never experienced burnout in your life or creator burnout, artist block is another word for it. It's essentially where you want to do something and you want to make something, but you either have

no motivation or no inspiration to do what's on. Or both sometimes, right? - Yeah, sometimes it's both. - Where you're just like, man, I really wanna get a video out. I know I need to get a video out. I want to be creative. I just don't know what to do. - Yeah. - And I have no motivation for it. - Yeah, I think there's one person who reached burnout recently that they made a statement about it and it like hit me hard because

So the author of Tower of God recently went on hiatus for like an indefinite period of time. So we don't know. He hasn't said I'm gonna be away for this long. He actually just wrote like a really, really long post just detailing that he's just had no breaks for this entire like time during Tower of God. And I remember there was this one line that really hit me, which was, I think he said,

I didn't know whether I was working to upload or uploading to work. No, no, I didn't know whether I was living to upload or upload to live. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, dude, I totally get that man. - Yeah, yeah. - Because there are times during burnout where you're just like, man, what am I doing? What am I doing? Am I even enjoying this anymore? - So, I mean, to explain to the viewers, how do you like get into burnout? Like how do you like, how does it, and what does it feel like?

Like how does it start? - It happens in so many different ways. I feel it really depends on the person, but like, you know, a common thing that would happen is like, for example,

like if you uploaded like four or five videos that are like absolute bangers, right? It's just like boom views, boom views, boom views. And then after that really good streak, you have another streak, but in the opposite direction of like, oh, that one bombed, oh, that one bombed even harder, oh, that one bombed even harder. And you start to lose self motivation and like, you start to, I don't know, it's really hard to explain, isn't it? It kind of just happens, like you don't realize

- Creative burnout has started until you're deep in creative burnout. - Yeah, it's really hard to see the early signs of creative burnout. Sometimes it's just, you just wake up and you just do a job and then eventually like five months down the line, you're like, man, I've just been feeling exactly the same this entire five months and I'm just not getting anything new out of this. - I'm sure like most people who just work normal jobs get it as well with their own job where they just kind of feel like,

- Do I like this or like, I know a lot of people don't like what they do and they just do it to survive because they don't have a choice, right? I mean, we're very lucky that we do something that is, most people would say it's pretty fun, right? - Yeah. - And it's very freeing. - And no doubt it is. - Oh, it's definitely like the, like,

- It's a very hard job and not in like any manual intensive kind of way. Not being like, yeah, we're working so fucking hard. It's a hard job like mentally, but still definitely by far like the best job I've ever had. I couldn't think of a job that would give me this much freedom. - No, I would replace this for anything. - Which is why we haven't quit. But in terms of pure work hours,

I know for a fact, I put more hours working, like actual working in this job than like any previous job I've done. - Oh, easily. - And it's because you can never switch off. And I think this is the same war for anyone who's like self-employed where, especially in our position where our jobs

stemmed from our hobby. So do you ever get that point when you're kind of watching an anime and you can all reading a manga and there's just that little voice in the back of your head that says, you can make a video out of this. You can make a video out of this instead of just like reading it for what? - Dude, that's why I've completely over the last two years or so I've had a complete anime burnout. Just for that, like I've stopped, like I'm sure my viewers can easily see that I have not been talking about recent anime

whatsoever when people ask, "Hey, have you watched this? "Hey, have you watched this recent stuff?" I always say, "Nope, nope, I'll get to it, I'll get to it." Because I have that thing of like, I could just watch this for my own entertainment. But at the same time, I feel like I'm wasting my time if I don't make a video on it. - Yeah. - Right? - That's my biggest fear is just wasting time. I don't know, like whenever I feel like I'm wasting time, I just can't lose myself in like any show or something. - Right.

for anime that's times 10 because I can never just watch an anime just for purely watching an anime anymore. And that's what that's made watching anime and reading manga 10 times harder. 'Cause if I feel like I don't get anything out of this either like for entertainment wise or if I, it's something I can't talk about or something like that, then I just can't get myself to focus on it.

- Okay, okay, sorry. - But yeah, but like recently I just watched "The Good Place" which is like a live action show on Netflix. - You watch live action? - Yeah. - What? - And I did something I hadn't done in a long time and I watched all four seasons in like a few days. - Oh wow. - I'm like, what the fuck did I just do? How did I, I didn't know I had this in me. Remember when I watched "One Piece" in like two weeks? - I can binge. - I can still binge stuff. My God.

- It's weird 'cause I think the hardest part is, like when I used to work at McDonald's and I used to go home and I got to watch anime or play video games. It was just like totally different. I didn't have to worry about McDonald's. - You didn't have to second guess, right? Like you could just be like, yeah, but immediately like I'm watching anime and I'm watching Marvel. - And I think the hard part about,

is that instead of like the job being difficult itself is that it creeps into every aspect of your life. Because YouTubers are more often than not themselves is the product. Like we're like the brand, if you will. You know, like even just if I go out for a meal, I'm like, "Hmm, am I wasting potential by not posting about this?" And where I'm doing it. It's like everything in your life is like infected

with this thought of like, should I try and monetize this? - It's the point where everything in your life becomes a commodity. Even experiences, like even experiences can become a commodity or like in our cases, it could become like a nice fun story on trash taste and that kind of thing, right? Where everything, you start thinking about everything in your life in terms of your job and how it can,

affect your YouTube or how you can use that to benefit. And it gets to a point sometimes where it just becomes subconscious. - Which is why I never understood the mentality of people who do like daily vlogs of their lives. - My God. - How do you do that? - I think you have to be a psychopath. - I think you do. You have to be psychopathic or sociopathic or a combination. - I mean, you definitely lose something, right?

Like my relationship with anime and manga has forever been changed. Like I still love anime and manga, but my relationship with it has been forever changed because that to me is content. And that to me is my job. - It's work material. - Like imagine if your entire life

was content. - I mean, this is why like all the like, like vlogging couples always end up breaking up, right? 'Cause of course you're gonna break up 'cause your whole relationship is the YouTube channel. - Your whole relationship is determined by the algorithm, right? - And it's basically how long you stay together is how long is the money worth it. After you get so rich, it's like,

- At what point do you need this extra money? Let's be honest. Like you already have like two fucking houses. - Yeah, but it's fucking crazy. Like I've seen, you know, say like there are some family vloggers, for example, that have been going on for like five, 10 years, right? And I'm just like, how are you guys like,

okay mentally. - Yeah. - 'Cause that would drive me fucking insane. - Yeah. - Because like I get insane just from going to a bookstore and being like, all right, I gotta find my next video. - Yeah. - Right? - Yeah. - Let alone you do that every moment of your life. - Yeah. - Being like, all right, what's something I can like pick up and show on camera to like show them that like we're living a normal life. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Also as well, whenever I've hung out with like YouTubers, it's normally always like the newer ones or the smaller ones who always wanna like take a picture and post everything.

'Cause I think that they haven't like experienced it yet where they're like, 'cause if you hang out with big YouTubers, they're never like, "Oh, let's post this on social media. "Let's take a picture of the post." It's always like, oh, we're not like, I don't know. There's just like this kind of vibe that you get around some people where you're like, "All right, cool. "This is just gonna be a private thing. "Nothing's gonna be like, you know, it's nice." - Weirdly, it's like, you usually have to, if you're interacting with a bigger YouTuber, you usually have to be the one to be like, "Hey, is it okay if I upload this?"

- Yeah, I would ask, I mean, if I'm with a bigger YouTuber and I, for some reason, wanted to post what I was doing at that moment in time, I would ask them, but I never do. I always like get like a fucking sigh when I'm like, someone pulls out a camera and they're gonna post it. I'm like, all right. - All right, we're gonna do that thing. - I just wanted to eat dinner, but fine, let's turn it into something. 'Cause to me, it's like the only like 100% escape I get is just like a nice fucking meal. I don't know why.

- I fucking love food. - You just like food, man. - I fucking love food. - I like food. - I mean, who doesn't? - To me, food is, don't get me wrong, very tasty, very delicious, and I can eat a lot of it. - I'd like to think so, yes. - Right, but for me, my favorite part about food is the social aspect of food and eating with someone and having it be a conversation and the food is a compliment to that. Because it's a shared experience that you can discuss. And if you don't know someone, it's like, "Oh, okay, well, maybe you could talk about the food," and then it opens you up a little bit. I don't know. I just really like that aspect of it.

And I don't like that being like ruined by people trying to like monetize it. - Right in front of your salad. - Right, I'm just trying to enjoy my immaculate meal, my A5 beef. - My immaculate salad. - And sometimes I'll post a picture. No, sorry, I'll take a picture 99% of the time I don't post it. Just for me, I'm like, I wanna remember this so I can know it. - That's something I've noticed recently. I'd say, especially in the last like two or three years or so where I've,

- For some reason, the more I do social media and the more I used to post, now I post way less, yet I experience more. If that makes sense. - This is like, a lot of people ask, "Gon, why don't you post on Instagram? "Gon, post more on Instagram." - I fucking don't post anything on Instagram too. - I remember I've tried so many times to get more on my Instagram and that's just because I fucking hate

having an experience, right? This is the thing I hate the most. Having some kind of experience, whether it's a nice meal or you're going somewhere new and I feel pressured to document it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I gotta take a nice photo of this for Instagram. - For one, I fucking suck at taking photos. - Oh yeah. - So half the time I'm like trying to figure out, hey, how do I make what I see look good?

Like, how do I do that? This is why I don't work with like live action stuff. But I also just hate that experience of just having to feel like I need to document this. I need to make sure the world knows what I'm doing. And I feel like every time

Ever since I just completely given up on my Instagram. Yes, I've just given up at this point. Everybody unfollow now. You can unfollow me, I probably won't notice. But like, as soon as I just gave up on it, then I just, you know, I just, it just felt like a weight was off my shoulder. And I feel like Twitter for me is just way more casual. - I love Twitter. - I love Twitter, yeah. - Twitter, I just, I don't have to try. It's just like,

say any stupid shit that comes to my mind. - Dude, I tweeted penis and it got 25,000 likes. I'm like, you guys will like fucking anything. But like with Instagram, yeah, I'm kind of the same. Like I'm pretty, I'm not,

I'm not gonna say I'm active on Instagram. - You're the most active out of all of us. - I'm probably the most active, but the thing is, is that like, I'd say the past 10 to 15 photos I've put up on Instagram, I didn't take. It was either Aki took it or somebody else, like Luke took a lot of them, like the recent ones, 'cause he's a camera man. - I just never think when I'm at a place, I'm like, I should take a picture. Like I do occasionally, and there's pictures of my Instagram at places, but,

most of the time I never think, I should take a picture. I'm like, I'm just gonna enjoy it. Like, I don't know. That shouldn't be like a thing of like, wow, look how amazing I am. I just- - You have nothing to prove, right? It's like, I don't have to take a nice photo of this trip I went to, to prove to you that, oh, I went on this nice trip.

Like, you know, that should just be something that you should cherish. Not to say, you know, don't post your experiences on Instagram. Like if you're okay with that, fucking go for it, right? But it's not a necessity, especially if you're a content creator or a YouTuber. - I think what we're saying, like more like, doubly is about other content creators or other YouTubers because as a content creator, you do commodify your life and you need to find

as I learned that I needed to find some parts of my life that just weren't touched by YouTube. - Yeah, you really have to like actively make sure you're thinking about it. I also think that when you're starting out, it's a lot easier to fall into the traps of self-employed 'cause a lot of the time YouTubers are young. And you know, I started when I was 19 and I had no chill. - You were 19 when you started? - Yeah, I had 19 when I started. - How old were you when you started Garnt? - 17. - 17. - Yeah. - I was 18 when I started.

- Yeah, I find when you get that first initial growth, your thought is to pour everything into it. - Yeah. - Yeah, I definitely did do that. And I definitely got burned out very quickly.

'Cause I was doing university as well at the time. - Yeah, same. - So it was like, I was putting in a full 40 hour work week on my YouTube and then I was putting probably not a full 40 hour work week into my university studies. - Oh no, it was definitely like YouTube university for me. - And then my social life was just, you know, tumbleweed. Yeah, I mean, my,

And the sad thing is, right, is that for every one of us that you hear the success story, there's a lot of survivor bias with that kind of stuff. Because for every...

three YouTubers like us that did it during a job or university, we made it through, but it's probably like a hundred people who fucking sweated their ass off full throughout university trying to get it to work and failed miserably. Didn't have anything to show for it. Like I took a gamble and it worked off, but it was a dumb gamble in reality. But I was passionate about it. - But I mean, the more dumb gamble for you would have been if you saw that little bit of success and you're like,

I'm going to quit university, which is something you should never do. So yeah, like I fully do, please do that. Cause I was going to do a master's, but I ended up doing a bachelor's cause I just hated engineering by the end of it. I got a two, one at the end. So I was like, Oh, I'll take it. It's good enough.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do you have that in the US? - What? - Like the rating system for- - I mean, I'm not from the US. - Oh, sorry, fuck yeah, Australia. - Is there like different levels of degree? - Like, yeah, like the- - Or like bachelor's, master's. - No, no, no, no. - And the bachelor's like the pass rate, like the first. - Oh. - First, two, one, two, two. - I don't know. - First, second or third degree. - I probably got the lowest

I legitimately just slid past. - Okay, okay. - I was like, give me the paper, I'm fucking out. - Gotta go to fucking first baby. - Oh my God, dude, you should have, I wish Garnt was in my dissertation presentation. He would have fucking cackled this way. So I'll go on a tangent real quick. So my dissertation was fucking awful. A dissertation by the way is like your final paper. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

30 pages long and in my one in engineering, we have to like actually either prove something like that's been proved before or like make a device or something. So I decided, yeah, I'm gonna make. So we were given a topic and my topic was a wave energy device. Now I loved renewable energies and I loved doing that. And luckily we had like one of the best guys in the UK was the guy who was my tutor. So I was like, yeah, dude, I can make a wave energy device.

Wave energy devices have never been proven to like work very well. In concept they work, but they don't work in large scales. - Right, right. - Normally it's below the waves. - Yeah. - Like the flow in the bottom of these. So I was like, but I can do it.

I can make a device that will work. I had like no experiencing workshopping or like making things. So I don't know why I thought this would go well. So I did this whole paper. I wrote this, everything about it, about this concept. Then I had to build the concept and it was the biggest piece of shit I'd ever built in my life. So I dead ass made this like,

- Pathetic little wooden thing with some copper coils strapped to it. And like a bobbing thing. I got like a toilet float. And I turned up to this thing, like a kid, like a six year old kid. - Show and tell at the science fair, right? - At the science fair. It was literally science fair quality, but even worse than that. And I turn up and I'm like,

So I go through 10 minutes of all this very detailed scientific like calculations, the proving and I fucking, I pull out this piece of shit cardboard thing, like wooden plywood. And I'm like, so you just,

"Pull this up and down with the waves "and it'll make electricity." And then I had an LED attached, one singular LED. And he's like, "It's not powering it." And I'm like, "You have to go really fast." And so I start doing like fucking this with the fucking like jacking it off basically. And he's like, "So do you know any waves that go that fast?" And I was like, "No."

There are no waves that go that fast. - That's like the most university professor kind of question. It's like the kind of, they will ask you questions where they know the answer. They just wanna see you like bullshit your way through this. - So yeah, he,

He has two people, my tutor and he was fucking giggling the whole time when I pulled it out. And the auditor kind of person who I'd never seen before. And I had a dead ass like look her in the eye and be like, "This is very scientific, very accurate. It will work, I promise." It was so embarrassing. And everyone before me was in a full suit and I just turned up in a t-shirt. I didn't get the memory that we had to dress nice. And so it was just fucking painful. And then he kept asking me questions like, "Can you hook it up to a battery?" And I'm like,

I don't have any Duracells lying around. Maybe you do. I don't really like them. - You can't even light the LED on a Duracell. - So what you did is that you just made a device to light an LED and it didn't even do that. - And so, yeah, I made it, I basically made a very basic electromagnetic thing. - That's what it sounded like. Just like you put the magnet in a coil and it makes electricity. - Yeah, so the idea was that it bobs up with the wave.

- It's like some shit people were doing in like the 1600s, right? It's like for science experiments. - The problem is that there's too many variables in waves. You would need like hundreds of the like little wave devices, but how the fuck are you gonna have that on top of the waves? Like this shit's gonna break all the time. Basically it doesn't work. I fucked up and I embarrassed myself. - I just remembered a similar thing for, it wasn't for like, 'cause we didn't really have like a dissertation for us. Like we had like three big projects that we had to do and then

those three projects would go on display at like the graduation party for our curricula. And one of them for the course that I was doing was I did like a computer robotics course. And have you ever seen like those robots? They have them a lot in America, but they're those like robot arms that are basically like robot bartenders.

- Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen those. - I think it's an Australian invention, but basically it's just this giant white arm that's programmable and it pours drinks basically. It's just an automated bartender robot. So we had one of those because I think our university like was the first to develop it or something. And we had one lying around. So we had to make a program that used the bartender robot and then they would use, they would show that off at the graduation party to actually serve drinks at the graduation party. So we're like, okay, that sounds dope.

The problem was is that it was a group project, never goes well. And second of all, I was the only one who knew how to program. And third of all, I sucked at programming. So we made this like whole thing. We planned out this giant thing being like, all right, let's do it where you press this button. You can choose like the amount of shots that can go into the glass. You can choose the glass size, all this shit. And we're like, all right, who's gonna program it? The other two looked at me and they're like, we don't know how to program. I was like,

- All right, I guess I'm programming it then. - It's always that point where you're like, does anyone not know how to do this? Fuck, I gotta take responsibility. - It's like, all right, I guess I have to learn JavaScript from scratch then. - Sick. Oh, NC++?

- I can do this. - Did you find it working? - And so in the end we have to present it, right? We kind of like a dissertation. We have to present in front of the class. But the problem was the only thing that worked, it was one thing that worked. We had like 10 different options that you could choose from. None of them worked except for one. And that was the one where you press a button and we'll pour a beer.

- A single beer. That's the most Australian thing I've ever heard all day. - Australia has been saved. - Not even like, and this is a button you could only press once. Once the robot poured one beer, that was it. The app was dead. - Oh my God. - Hell yeah. - Hell yeah. - We passed somehow. I don't fucking know. But then the professor was like, "So do you wanna have this on the graduation thing?" We're just like, "No, no, please." I'm not even gonna show up to the graduation. I'm too embarrassed.

because I'm gonna see all these other amazing projects and just feel like absolute shit for it. But if you want one beer, it's all yours baby. - There you go. - It better be the best beer of your life. - It was like some VB shit. - You guys are reminding me of like so many of my like university projects and dissertations. Like I remember my dissertation was like a lot. Did your dissertations feel like a fucking lifetime to complete? 'Cause mine did. And I remember,

- Like my dissertation had several stages. I remember like- - Depression. - Like one of the first stages, I had to like build like a wireless antenna. So we had to like, had to build a system where I could like transfer data wirelessly.

And my friend actually helped me build it. And I remember we basically just recreated probably the invention of porn, right? Okay, because what happens, right? We were working on this for like an entire day and we couldn't get it working. We were like, why is the data not transmitting? Is the receiver maybe receiving the signals wrong? We don't know. And then suddenly,

after so much work, we like get it working. We send like this message like hello world or some basic ass message. And it was just like the fucking Eureka moment. It was like such a bro moment. I was like, yes, we got this message to send. We got data from one antenna to another wirelessly. And then we just looked at each other. We're like, so what do we do now? And he just goes, let's try sending ASCII porn.

- Not even real porn, just ASCII porn. - Yeah, no, we couldn't send that much data at that time. So we were just like, what can we send? Let's send ASCII boobies. So we Google like a naked girl with like, through an ASCII filter. And then we try sending that and we're like, yeah, it fucking works.

- And thus porn was invented. - We were like, wait, this is exactly how porn was started. Just imagine some scientists having this Eureka moment, like imagine like the telegram being invented and then the next thing they wanna send is fucking ASCII porn or something like that.

- I don't remember that in history. - It's like we could go to the store to buy the Playboy magazine or you could just send it to me while I'm home. - Jacking off to ASCII movies. - Exactly. But like I remember going all the way forward to when I had to present it and I'm like, I'm still fucking pissed to this day 'cause I had my project which I had worked so fucking hard on, right?

And I actually knew it was actually working. It was like- - Why you gotta do me like that? - Wow, the call out. - Wow. - It was many sleepless nights, many Red Bulls to get this fucking tracking system working that I had been working on all year.

And so for some reason, for some reason, you know like that dickhead professor that just seems to wake up and he just has like, he just wants to be an asshole. He just, for some reason that was the day he woke up and he wants to be an asshole. So he just starts grilling me on this presentation, on my presentation.

and asking me questions that you shouldn't expect from my level basically. I mean, I was doing a master's, but he was asking me like PhD level questions. I don't know why. And I was there for a good like 20 minutes. - Why do you hate me? - 'Cause it's like,

I swear the questioning was meant to be like 10 minutes max. He's gonna ask you 10 minutes worth of questions. It goes on for 20 minutes and I'm like sweating. It was like the worst job interview I've ever been in. Like, you know when you just, you know when you're just spitting bullshit and you don't even know if it's correct anymore. That was like the point I was getting at. So he finishes with me and I'm just like,

- What the fuck? Why did he do that to me? I'm like swaying. I didn't even get a good mark for my presentation. - Oh, what an asshole. - But what really kills me is that the person next to me was the one girl in my class. The one girl in an engineering class. - Oh, he didn't grill her? - And okay, so I saw his face. So like when he was like grinning me, he was like, he was like, eyebrows far out like, yeah, whatever. I don't give a shit about what you said. Goes over to the next person.

Hi, what project do you have here? - My boy's horny on main. - Oh, that's sweet. And I know for a fact that she didn't know that thing didn't fucking work. She didn't put any fucking work into it, but she got a higher mark on the presentation than me. And my thing actually worked. Fuck you. - And it's like, well, now we know who is sucking the professor off

- I don't know how we got this present. I don't know how we got this fucking tangent man. - Back to the YouTube burnout. I was telling the story and like, I think the most burnout I ever got on YouTube, like, cause we can get into like now later on, but I remember when I first moved to London for some reason, because I was going to London quite a lot to do voice work. So I was like, fuck it, I'll just move there.

'cause why not, nothing better to do. And I moved there and I was making about 1200 a month total before tax, which not great. - So you're making about $500. - Well, yeah, and my rent was like 600 pounds a month. - Right. - Right. - Council tax was like a hundred pounds a month.

And then there was bills included. So after all bills and tax was gone, I was left with like a hundred to 200 bucks a month for like food and stuff. And I was like, oh, that's not good. That's not good. - Do the math. - Yeah, I was doing the math on my spreadsheet and it was like, you're fucked. You're absolutely fucked. - Just put in a spreadsheet formula, just clues out you're fucked. - Conclusion, you're fucked.

- That first month I moved there, I was like, I really wanted to change my content up as well because I was doing strictly like Black Butler based stuff at the time. And I was desperate to get out of that 'cause I really didn't wanna keep doing that. - You'll burn out of Black Butler. - I fucking started hating it. And the viewers were really obnoxious at times as well.

And so I really wanted to make this content work. And as you guys know, when you normally when you try new stuff on YouTube, the first few times you do it, it isn't perceived well. Normally people are a bit hesitant about it. At least it was quite drastic at the time for me at least. So I started doing new content and I was working my ass off and none of it was getting views. And I was like, oh,

I'm gonna go broke. I'm not gonna be able to- - I'm in danger. - I'm like, yo, these next four videos, bangers, 100% bangers dude. This is my new content, new me. This is where I'm gonna turn it all around. And then they all bombed.

- It was so hard. - Like how hard are we talking? - I was averaging about in 24 hours, I was averaging about 25K views at that time to 30. Which is not great. - How many subs did you have at the time? - When I moved to London, it must've been about 200K. - Okay, okay. - I think I was averaging anywhere between 25K to 50K views of video in the first week, which is fine. And I remember these videos all came out and they got like 8K.

And I checked the ad rev and it was like $15. And I was like, I'm getting $15 a month for like from these videos, I'm gonna go fucking broke, man. And then fucking Amino come down being like, hey, you want $200 for a sponsored video?

I have like no fucking choice but to take it. 'Cause I'm actually gonna like be homeless if I don't take it. Or I'm gonna have to ask my mom for like, "Hey mom, can you swap me?" I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna ask my parents for money. - I love how Amino is every man's first sponsor.

- Because they fucking rip you off. - I remember they were my first sponsor as well. - They know how to slide in. - 'Cause their whole tactic is going after channels that have like are up and coming, that don't know any better. 'Cause I know they gave people who gave them a million view videos for 15 bucks. - Yep. - What? - 15 bucks. 'Cause they don't know any better.

- It's crazy. - What? Genius. - It's just genius. - It is genius, but it's slimy as fuck. - It's slimy as fuck. - Completely slimy. - 100 genius. - Yeah, and then luckily, you know, those videos later on started to, like, you know, I started turning it all around maybe three or four months later, and it started to really pick up the new stuff, and I started getting an audience, but man, those three months where I wasn't picking up were the scariest three months of my life. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause I thought I was gonna like,

I mean, okay, I've never tried super fucking hard at something in my life and failed. And I thought like, fuck. - I'm a winner.

- 'Cause I'm fucking psychotic when I wanna get something done. Like I was working like- - I think stoic is the word you're looking for. - No, psychotic. I was a fucking relationship- - Your past stoic is psychotic. - I was like a relationship vlogger, bro. I was on full psychopath mode, bro. I was working easily like 12, 14 hours a day to get this shit working. I didn't have any time for video games 'cause I was like, I need to make this work.

And like, it just wasn't working. And I'm like, what am I doing wrong? And then it was probably, probably 'cause I was probably too invested and it probably didn't help, right? - Yeah. - Because I felt that every single video I was gonna make could make me fucking homeless if I fucked it up. - Yeah. - So it was like, fuck, not only do I, am I overly invested in this because I really want it to succeed, I'm also gonna go fucking homeless if I don't get this fucking working. - Yeah.

- And it's like, you see it, I see it with streamers as well. When they're like, I'm gonna stream 12 hours a day. And I'm like, that is- - Bro, I don't know how streamers do it, man. Streamers is a skillset that I could never understand. And I could never do no matter how much I try to work through it. - I think it's your personality though. - It has to be your personality. - 'Cause I think I could, if it was my job, I think I'd have no problem streaming eight hours a day. - I would have massive problems. - I don't think I'd have, I just wanna do other shit. Like I could do it, but I'd prefer to do other shit. - But I've very quickly noticed, like, you know, we talked about last week about how

I've been getting into VTuber streams and whatnot. And I have a lot of like IRL streamer friends as well who can, like some of them can go like eight to 12 hours a day. No problems at all. I've noticed that like with streaming, it really is like YouTube where anybody can start it, but not anybody can do it. Like you really have to be built. - It takes years of fucking up.

- It does. - And also the right personality. - Yeah, because people come into YouTube thinking they can succeed right away and what they don't, like YouTube is not about making one banger videos. If like the way I see YouTube is that if you make enough videos, eventually, eventually you're gonna get one that's on the algorithm. And I've seen so many channels that just have like a thousand views in every video. And then one view, one video gets like 200, 300, sometimes a million views. And they just can't recreate that.

And it's about being able to consistently grow your views. It's not about getting that one banger video. It's about slowly, like some people rise up very quickly, but you shouldn't ever think that you're gonna be one of those people. 'Cause those are like the lucky ones. But I believe that if you play your cards right, and if you know what you're doing in terms of marketing on YouTube, there is a path that you can take that is sustainable growth. - Yeah, YouTube to me isn't about

getting 15 minutes of fame and then you've made it. It's about getting 15 minutes of fame every day. - Yeah. - Consistently, you know? - Yeah. - It's about making 10 videos that are good and are growing consistently and never stopping. And that's why burnout exists is because once you finish one video, you have like a day of rest and you realize you gotta do it

all over again. - No matter how good the last film was, it doesn't matter 'cause that's not gonna be like, you're not a movie director. - That's not gonna pay your bills for the next 10 years. - Yeah, unfortunately. - Okay, do you guys remember an exact point when you just kind of realized, like, you know when you start off YouTube, you're like, I can do this forever. Making videos, talking about anime, fucking easy. This is like the dream job, I can do this forever. Did you ever have a point when you're just like, man, what's the end game of this?

- What am I doing? - Yeah. - You know, when I worked at McDonald's, I didn't think like, yo, what's the end game of this? How many McFlurries do I gotta make? - But like, did you ever think, man, how much longer can I keep just making McFlurries? You know what I mean? What is there after shop manager? What's above that? - Dude, the moment I started working at McDonald's, I was like, I wanna leave here so fucking bad.

but I really want that new Xbox. I really want to fuck it. - That's the end game, right? That's the goal. That is an end game. - Xbox is the end game. - Yeah, that is the end game. - I guess.

- It's hard because I think what I want out of YouTube changes constantly. I think right now I'm in a place where I think I'm the best where I've ever been on YouTube. I think I've got my mental health at the best place where it's ever been on YouTube. I really do separate and I really do take care of myself, which is weird 'cause I got a comment on like a few recent videos that like, "Is Connor doing okay? "Is Connor, is Connor?"

- There's always those comments. - It's kind of depressed. - Yeah, yeah. And it's weird 'cause it's like, dude, like if I am more, it's probably 'cause I'm more real in the videos of anything. Like I've stopped caring about if I look kind of annoyed or depressed at any point. Like maybe when I'm directing someone or doing something like that. - Like you don't have to bother with like the business smile

- No, no, I just kind of like, now I just turn on the camera and I just literally just do me. And I feel like it's been, and it's being received better than ever. And it's hard to do that. But also I think because I've gotten such a good control over the separation of job and like, you know, what I'm doing, like when I went away this weekend and you get to, I did not think about YouTube for one moment for like four days. I had to upload a video at one point, but that's literally just one point in the evening where I schedule it. And I just, that's it.

I just don't think about YouTube when I'm not working now. And I don't know how I managed to do that because I remember there was a time when, like I said in London, I could not turn it off. Like I could not stop thinking about YouTube. Everything was YouTube. Like what am I gonna do next? What's the new idea? - 'Cause I remember you messaged me a couple of days ago when you were still up in Niigata and we had like a really brief discussion about it, about how Connor was like, is it bad that I'm starting to care less about YouTube? Not in the sense of like, I don't care about videos,

it doesn't take over my life as much. - Yeah, I will get back to your question later, but I guess 'cause it's weird because my whole YouTube career, if you will, I've always thought about it.

- Yeah. - Always, like I don't stop thinking about it. And I'm like, is it bad that I have large periods of time, like two, three days where I can just not think about it? Is that bad? Like, I don't know, am I a bad YouTuber? - No, no, that's like, that's healthy. That's what I'm trying to do. I haven't been able to achieve that at all. I think throughout my YouTube career,

- Really? - I think that's my problem. - I wish I could tell you how I did it. - This year especially, I think I've been like close to burn out around like fucking 10 times. - Yeah, you've been really bad this year. - And I think it's just because this year- - Fuck you guys. - You suck this year. - Fuck you guys. - I think I can definitely tell what I'm around you that you're,

Like I can feel that you're stressed about it. - And I think that's just because normally I'm used to a change in environment or a change in break, but just because of like the global situation, we've not been able to travel. Lockdown has just made it like 10 times worse. And I know like I've gotten a few comments recently like, oh, Garnt's uploading videos less, what's going on there? And it's like, there's nothing going on. I'm just staring at a blackboard. - That's the problem. - The thing that really stresses me out is this notion that if you don't upload

like in the viewers mind, if you don't upload, you're dead. Everyone's thinking either he's dead or man, he must be working on a banger video. He must be pulling all his time to this fucking banger video. And it's just sometimes that just makes it more pressure. Like especially if there's a long break that man coming back with just another of the same upload I've been doing before just makes it really difficult. - That's one thing.

- One thing that I guess is like the good thing about having a schedule or like good thing about having a timeframe of like, okay, it's been however many days I have to upload a video, right? Because that expectation gets completely thrown out the window. And then when you do release that banger of a video, it's a pleasant surprise, right? You're like, oh shit,

My man was able to do this in the same timeframe as a regular video? All right, I see you. - Yeah. - Because it's, and I know it's an unhealthy mindset, but sometimes even when I'm on holiday or even when I'm like away, I'm like, I'm secretly thinking to myself like, "Hmm, this could have been time that I've used towards doing something with my channel." - That's like a big no in my mind. - Yeah, that's a big no. - When I go on vacation- - I don't know how to switch that off though. Like I really don't. - I guess,

- Okay, having a little bit of backlog of videos is like, this is what you don't have. - That's it, that's it. Because I have never in my YouTube career felt like I've been on top of my work. 'Cause unlike you guys, I finish a video, I upload it. And that grace period, that 20 to 48 hour grace period after I upload a video, that's my holiday.

'Cause that's the only time I can mentally be like, okay, I deserve this break. - I feel uncomfortable if I'm not at least four or five videos recorded ahead. Like they might not be edited and done, but like I don't feel comfortable unless I have that buffer because,

Like for example, when I moved back to my parents before moving to Japan, like I just wasn't in the mood 'cause I hated the environment. I love my parents, but I just didn't like being home. And I just didn't wanna make videos. So I just didn't. And then also when I moved to Japan, I wanted to enjoy Japan for the first month. So I didn't make videos for a month. I didn't feel bad about that because I had the backlog and I completely used all of my backlog for that month.

And also I just don't have to worry about taking a weekend off or taking four. Like I haven't made a video or done any video stuff in about a week and a half now. I don't know why. I'm pretty, I just can't think of ideas right now. And I've also been really fucking busy. I mean, we did the, oh, the video that we can't talk about yet. - Yeah. - That's coming out soon. - We did a special thing. - Yeah, we did a special video. And then also we had the podcast in between that. And then I've been really busy and I was way behind on a bunch of other stuff.

- It's just like having that backlog, even if, okay, this is my advice to you Garnt, even if you like have to do a month between each upload, try and get like one or two videos backlog that you can like drip out so that you can at least then take that one or two days off and be like, I'm not gonna think about it because I don't need to. Like I'm gonna take these days off and I know I'm taking these days off, so why would I ruin them by thinking about like, oh shit, what are the Fiverr sellers up to? What are they doing? What porn are they drawing? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, I really,

- It's difficult. I guess I fucked it up so many times that I've learned now. - I feel like I'm on like the extreme of that because,

say for example, like, you know, every AX, which is in July, I usually go to America for like, you know, - Makes me sad to remember. - I usually go to America from anywhere between one to three months, right? Because I'm going around, I'm visiting places, whatnot. And so I have to make a backlog, right? I mean, I could technically just make videos while I'm at Aki's parents' place, but that would be fucking weird. And I don't want to use my time on holiday because it's technically a holiday to fucking worry about work.

- Two months before that, I just grind. I grind like fucking crazy. And I make like legit two to three months worth of videos ahead. I don't know how I do it. - That's like something I have, that's a world I have never heard of. - Dude, last year I made 12 videos ahead.

- I wish I could be that ahead, man. I wish. I like wake up and I dream of that moment. - And it was great because for those one to three months that I was away, because we also went to like Europe and stuff and like, I went to go see you and I went to go see everyone, all my friends in Europe and all my friends in America.

the thought of YouTube was just completely gone. I just, I turned back into just regular Joey for two months and it was so liberating, but it's a double edged sword, right? Because when you're not thinking about your job or doing YouTube for that long and you come back to it, it's like taking a gap year at

- It is a little difficult to get back into. But you also might come into it more refreshed than ever. - Oh no, yeah, that's what I mean. That's why it's a double A sword because it can easily be either one of the two. You can either come back and be like, I have like 20 new ideas or you can come back and be like, fuck, I don't wanna do this. - I think the point that was the biggest turning point for me was getting an editor.

And I know that you always think that like, YouTube is always like, man, but I've just got this touch to it. And I'm like, no, you're fucking wrong. You are actually just wrong. There is someone who could do it better than you because that's their job to just do that. - They can do it better and faster. - Better, faster, and guess what? You have free time now. You know what that's like? You never had that before. And I sucked at editing. - I mean, Garnt talked me into-

- I convinced Joey to get an editor. - Yeah, because up until what? Less than two years ago, I was editing all of my videos. - Still. - And like, I remember back in the early days of YouTube, people used to be iffy about like, viewers used to get like pissed if you had an editor. - Yeah. - But not anymore. I'm glad that it's changed. - Yeah, it's like sponsorships, right? It's just grown to be like accepting. - The way I see it is that I've gotten

better editing and now I have more time to make better videos and I can make more ambitious videos 'cause I'm not the one. 'Cause the worst thing was is that like, I wanna make this video ambitious but I don't wanna add more work in post for myself. So it was always like, you would always limit yourself 'cause you're like, I don't wanna have to add work. - See, that's okay. - This is again, this psychopath. - This is my problem 'cause apparently I'm a fucking workaholic. - He is. - You are a workaholic.

I don't know, like I just wanna feel ahead of my work for once in my life and it's really hard because I don't know. - You're too hands on. - Yeah, I am too hands on. But even like, even if I have an editor, I need to learn how to just see what the viewer sees, right? Because every time I get an editor or every time I come up with a finished video, I can always be like, I can make this better.

- I can improve this by an extra little bit and I always end up doing it. - I guess that's the bad thing about being a perfectionist, right? Is that like you'll never satisfy. - But I mean, you could argue that yeah, maybe that extra touch you do put in is the reason why you've done so well. You know, why everyone comes to watch your videos on anime, right? Maybe it is.

- Maybe it also wouldn't fucking matter at all. - Yeah, I don't know. This is just my gut. - Why don't you test though? Why don't you do a test? - Test it out. Just let Alan just do all of the editing. - Yeah. - 'Cause it will fucking kill me. - But this is the thing. You gotta let go of it. You gotta let go. - Here's the thing, right? Because it's not just about one video. As we know, you can't get enough metrics or enough analytics of one video.

- That's true. - Like you can make the fucking, what you feel is like the worst fucking video of your channel. And for some reason it does well. - Yeah. - But what if you put it out there and it's like,

it's nothing happened. Like it's, oh shit, I can just let him do it. - Because the exact opposite happened with me. When you talked me into hiring Mudan to be my editor, I was like, okay, Mudan watches my videos, so he should have a good grasp of it. All right, I'll let him edit like the first couple of videos. Dude, the first couple of videos, I feel so bad towards Mudan 'cause I made him redo that first video like five times.

'Cause I was like, all right, add this little zoom in here. No, I would have added this here. I would have added this here. And I feel so bad now, Mudan, but nowadays I can just be like, all right, Mudan, here's the script. Here's the raw files. Go ham fam. And he always just nails it. - I think one of the biggest things that an editor does as well, at least for our kind of content is that, dude, I do so much embarrassing shit that I would delete for sure. I would never make it into the cut that they would put in. And the first time I saw it, I'm like, I don't really like that.

I look kind of fucking stupid there. And then after a while, I'm like, I guess that's kind of funny and adds a bit of charm. So now if I ever work with anyone who edits my videos, I'm like, please make me look as stupid as fuck. Make me look so fucking dumb. Please poke fun at me the whole time. - Go full monkey brain. - Yeah, yeah, just poke fun at me 'cause like, I mean, that's what's funny. And now I find that funny.

- Yeah, it's very British self-deprecating. - Oh, very much so. - But I also like now, 'cause I work with multiple editors now. So like, I always just tell them now to just throw in as much of your personality into your editing as best as possible. Because I feel that like the landscape of YouTube editors has kind of changed in the sense that now YouTube editors have almost become their own identity in a video where like, you know, like perfect example is like Game Grumps, for example, right?

- Barry, the first editor was just as much of an important aspect of Game Grumps as the hosts were. And I feel that like with a lot of YouTubers, their editor is kind of just become another part of that person's like personality, right? So it-

I feel it just clearly makes for a different type of video, but also makes it really unique at the same time. - And I guess that's why I'm having such a hard time letting go because I feel like what I do, what I do is I put my personality into, like I let Alan do like the hard, like most of the work and like the other 5% is just me. Like I'm self-inserting myself into my videos. But I feel like,

- It's because of that, that people know me or like why I stood out in the first place is because my videos are very personal and it's like my personality reflected not only in like my scripts, but my editing as well and the way like I make jokes. - You and Alan have known each other for so long. - Oh yeah, yeah. - I feel like Alan would have a good grasp of your type of personality. - He definitely does. There are some videos that take no effort at all for him to edit and there's some videos where he's just like, "I don't know what the fuck, what the fuck."

- It's, I don't know, it's a difficult balance. I'm still working on it. It's funny that I'm like 13 years into my YouTube career or whatever. - Still haven't figured this shit out. - Still haven't figured this shit out. It's funny 'cause me and Connor were talking about like our perfect vacation.

And like our perfect vacation, which we were like, we were hoping to do sometime after COVID allowed us was just like fly to Korea, spend an entire day in like a gaming cafe. - Multiple days. - Multiple days and just playing League of Legends. - And if you would play League of Legends Joey, we'd be like, let's get Joey on board too. - But yeah, but the only problem with that is I have to play League of Legends. - It's good fun.

- To me, like the perfect vacation is just shutting off. And like, I miss being able to waste all day playing games and what better way to do it than in Korea and a gaming cafe with like where you can get food, boba, all that kind of shit delivered to your table. - Sounds amazing. - Yeah, I really want to, I love league and I-

- I'll join you guys, but I'll play Mario 64. - Yeah, you can just come and just chill next to us in one of the PC and play PUBG. I don't know, what do you play on PC, Joe? - I don't know, just go onto Fakku or something. - You guys wanna go outside? It's been eight hours. No. - No, no, no. - We're about to hit platform, Joe. - I'm just imagining that, but we can also go out and get fucking Korean

barbecue, some amazing food. And I'm just like, this is just the perfect holiday. Fuck traveling, fuck seeing things. - Yeah, because I'm the kind of guy when I go on vacation, I just, 'cause I work so fucking much. The last thing I wanna do is work on my vacation in terms of like doing too much shit. Like I just wanna eat food, drink and relax, dude. I'm like, just take it easy.

Like I like beaches, but I mean, I normally just, I like like good hotels as well. - I mean, that's why I like whenever I go on a vacation with Aki or I go on a vacation with like my friends, I usually let them decide. And I just kind of tag along and be like, I'm down for anything man. Like if we want to go sightseeing, cool. If we want to just drink, cool.

- I'm very hands off with my vacation. If there's a schedule, I'm like, no, no. This is already a turnoff right now. - I just love food.

- Where are some places though that we've been thinking to go once COVID is over? I mean, we mentioned Korea, right? - Yeah, I would like to go to Korea. - Is that like at the top of your bucket list right now? - I mean, right now 'cause it's just easiest to get to. - It's like less than an hour by plane, right? - Yeah, and I remember going to Korea like two years ago, I think. - I've never been either. - Actually like Seoul was just very much like Tokyo, just less busy.

And I just, I very much enjoyed the vibe and also the e-sports scene was massive there. I went there for the League of Legends grand finals. - We both love watching the League of Legends worlds. - Yeah, that's starting soon. But yeah, I flew all the way to Korea just to see Fnatic get decimated. But the experience was fucking fantastic, man.

Like the team I was actually cheering for got fucking destroyed, but just going there and seeing this massive stadium, like the noise that they made, like I've been to a football match before, but I still think the energy of this like stadium watching a fucking video game was like 10 times more intense. - Oh yeah. I mean like I've seen clips of sports commentators versus e-sports commentators. - They're talking ill! They're talking ill!

- I love that clip, 'cause I'm just like, wow, this guy's excited for that. - There's so many good clips like that. The commentators get so hype. It's great, I love it. - I mean, I totally get it though, right? - Dude, we get so fucking hype when we watch it, dude. We like stand up, we're like, what the fuck? - I mean, we get like that whenever we watch like insane speed runs. We're just like.

- That's the true spectators for. - Yeah, exactly. - Super monkey ball speed runs are the best thing to watch dude. - Like the cocaine of speed runs. - If you get super drunk and watch super monkey ball speed runs, it's so fun. - Which is what we did last Christmas. - That was our Christmas. We just got massively drunk and watched super monkey ball speed runs. - Dude, it's so fun 'cause you're like, "What is happening?" - Like, "How do you practice?"

- You're like, what the fuck? And then the next course starts like, what's he gonna do? And then he just fucking flips the whole world and gets it in across the map. You're like, what the fuck?

- It's so good. - What is it about motion controls that makes it so much more impressive? - It's crazy. Man, going back to YouTube burnout. Where were we on that point? - I mean, is there anything else we wanna talk about? - I wonder, like where are you at right now with it? Like, are you, do you feel, would you say you're burnt out? - No, I was in like,

- I feel like I just have artist block right now. I can't think of anything. I don't dislike it. I love it more than ever. I just can't think of anything right now. - I think speaking honestly, I am like pretty close to burnout. Like it's been difficult because I was already having trouble keeping up an assemblance of like a schedule this year. And then Trash Taste started.

And like you think, 'cause we take one day off a week to film this, right? Which doesn't sound like a lot, but for me as someone who like values, who already values every day that I do work, it kind of like builds up. So that one day a week turns into like quite a lot when we're adding like extra secret projects on top of that. - Yeah, we have a lot coming and they don't take weekends.

So I guess for me, especially after Trash Chase started, I'm trying to figure out a good, a new work-life balance that kind of works with me doing everything and not working myself to death. Or maybe I just might take a break anytime sometime soon. I don't know yet. I haven't figured it out. - Yeah, that's the thing, right? It's about, it's not about,

seeing if you can take a break or seeing like what the balance is because everyone's balances I feel work really different. Because like for me at least my rule of thumb is at least three days of the week, I try and not do any YouTube stuff.

So like four days and also weekends for me as well. So it's like two days in the weekend and then one to two days during the week is just the day where I don't do anything. It's just no work, no YouTube work, nothing. And then the rest of the four days I go balls to the walls. And like, that's all I do. But like, of course it depends on my schedule. But I feel that like, because before when I was in like that really, really like deep, deep,

I wasn't going out at all. Like I wasn't going to see anybody. - Definitely having like a social life is like really important to not feeling like you're trapped. And I think definitely for me, like AX and conventions in general was such a huge,

- It's so refreshing when you go to a convention. - And we just didn't get that this year. - I know. - Which is why I think everything's just been exasperated. - It was awful, yeah. 'Cause I remember the last day X had happened, so 2019, I distinctly remember the week before X, I was working so much that I thought like, I was just ready to like fucking start crying.

and start crying and like, come on. 'Cause I'm just like, I can't do this. And if that AX hadn't happened, like at that time, I don't know what I would have done. 'Cause I think it would have been way too burnt out. 'Cause I burned myself out so much so that in the anticipation that I could enjoy this thing and have the vacation. And luckily it was great. I had a fucking great time.

And yeah, it's been weird now because we don't have any of that. And I remember I was speaking to Emily and Emily was like, "When's the last time you took a vacation before the Niigata one?" And I was like, "Like an actual vacation?" I think it was like two or three years. Never took a vacation. It was just like maybe a weekend trip. It was like a little getaway for like one or two days, but not like an actual vacation. It actually been like two, three years plus. I actually don't know. Because I never would. - Because you don't think about it, right? - No, because conventions were my,

I mean, conventions are work, right? - Technically. - They were 100% work. - But like you still enjoyed it and it was just like a nice break from your routine. That's why I enjoy conventions. - But I can't really call it a vacation. And it was crazy that I would go like two, three years. Just didn't even question if I needed a break. Like even Christmas, like and all the family holidays and stuff that I would do, I would still be doing work.

- Yeah, it was crazy. - Well, I think that's why I've kind of been blessed in that aspect because I am really good at scheduling and getting it on top of my schedule because I've been able to take short vacations, whether it be with family or with friends or just whatever, just very frequently.

minus all of the conventions. Because to me, conventions aren't a vacation. It's just work, but a different type of work. - Just having like a weekend away helps so much to like recharge you, I think. And as well, 'cause my videos have been getting a lot more ambitious as well recently. So I've just been adding on more work

with the same schedule. - That's the problem, isn't it? - Same upload schedule, but like three times the amount of work. - Yeah, exactly, exactly. - I did, by the time we were recording, I did like a renter boyfriend video. First video was easy. It was two hours of work on my end. Well, of recording work. 'Cause there's loads of other work that went in before that, but two hours of just reacting to applications. That's easy. Second part was hard 'cause I had to schedule 13 people with different time zones, calls,

one hour calls with these people and then plan out what I was gonna do on each call. So, cause I did something different for everyone. One of them I had to like get a whole Bob Ross set up. And one of them I had to get all sculpting stuff and others, just different things for each one. And there's a one hour each. So just pure call times, it was 13 hours. And then on top of that, I had to then fucking

and micromanage my schedule, which if you try and schedule time zones, oh my fucking God. - Oh yeah. - It's not difficult, but you feel like your brain is going to implode trying to juggle all these time zones and plot them all out. And this is just for one video. And then back in March, I did the audio book video, which is like a month of straight work. - That was the most stress I've ever seen. I thought you were gonna burn out then. - I don't know how I didn't 'cause I was also uploading weekly videos in between this,

behemoth of a video. It's crazy 'cause I had to make the audio book and make the video. I don't know how I did not get burned out. - That's the double edged sword, isn't it? Is that like the more you do YouTube and like the moment you're like, yeah, the moment you,

you decide to venture out into that one ambitious idea and you make it happen and it's successful, then you start thinking, all right, I did it once. I can do it again, but better. And then it just keeps escalating and escalating and escalating until you realize, oh shit,

"I don't have time to make this video." - Right, right. - It's either gonna suck or I have to sacrifice other ideas. - It kinda sucks when you reach the point where you make a banger video and then you think, "Man, how am I gonna top this? "If I'm not gonna top this, what's the point?" - Yeah, exactly, exactly. - The way I see it is that like,

- The videos that I put out most often are the standard videos that I hope people enjoy and that they buy a bit of time. And then every now and then I like to just hopefully think that these are the banger videos, the ones that really blow people away. But I hope that in between then the videos that I do put out keep people engaged and enjoy them. - But I think it's kind of bittersweet when you do bring out that banger video and it does amazing and then you're like, all right, I have to upload a couple of throwaway videos, but then throwaway videos do just as well.

- I can literally do anything and it'll be all right. - By throwaway videos, we mean videos that take very little time in comparison to that. - Way less time to get- - The thing that you have to get around with being a YouTuber is that the effort you put in a video hardly ever equates to the views it gets. - Never. - There's no correlation to that.

And the people may notice how much effort you put in X videos, but just what YouTube cares about the metrics, the money you make does hardly gets affected. - Oh yeah. - It's all idea based, right? It's all about, do you have a better idea? It doesn't matter how you execute it. Do you have a better idea? If you do, we'll pay you more. - Yeah, exactly. - It's unfortunate, but I think I've just come to accept and I'm totally fine with knowing that maybe

my video that I put two months of work into won't do well. - Yeah. - I'm just happy that I did it 'cause I can at least be like, I'm capable of this. - It looks good on the resume. - Like, yeah, if you were like, I'm working on a video right now where I was a five a cell off like two months and it's all done now, but that's two months of work. And if that video bombs,

That's gonna be pretty sad. - I'm gonna cry. - That's gonna be pretty fucking sad, isn't it? Because I put two months of fucking work into that. - And then afterwards you do a video that takes an hour to make and you'll be like, "No, get just as many views." - That's YouTube, right? And I think I've just come to accept now that I'm not doing it for the views, I'm doing it because I wanna make these videos that I think are cool. That's pretty much where I've gotten to now.

I think Trash Taste has been great because it allows me to just even more further lean into that mindset of, I don't really care 'cause we have Trash Taste and Trash Taste gets more views than most of my videos and it's just me chatting shit for two hours. So I gotta not give a shit about the views. - Yeah, yeah. I've definitely started to care less on my main channel. - Trash Taste is- - Care less about the views

- Care less about the views. - I don't give a fuck about my channel. - Trash Chase has very been like bittersweet just to see like how much effort we put into our videos on our own channels. Then we come in and chat shit for two hours and we're like a million views for like two hours of chatting. And I'm just like,

What am I doing right and what am I doing wrong? It's like, hold on a million views and there's only three cuts in the video. What's happening? - It's nice though. Cause it feels that like, obviously there's, we're doing something right here and you guys must enjoy it. - Yes. - I don't know. I think our dynamic must be working. I guess, I don't know.

I'm very glad that it's doing well. - But that's the thing, right? Is that because of Trash Taste, because this is quite different to what I do and what we all do on our own channels, it's kind of incentivized me more to explore different things on my main channel. Like, you know, I recently brought out a video where I kind of go personal into like my whole thing about being half Japanese. - Yeah, that was a really good video. - Yeah, and I was really scared to upload that because it's got nothing to do with anime. And it's just,

my life story basically. And I'm like, I really don't want this to look like another sob story, like a woe is me type of story, but people really enjoyed it. And you know, I asked Mudan as well to like do a little bit different on the editing side of things and everything turned out amazing. So when I saw that video do well, I was like, okay, maybe I can, even though I'm called the anime man, maybe,

- Maybe not every video has to be about anime. Maybe I can go back to my let's play days and just do whatever the fuck I want. - A lot of mine are about voice acting, so it's fine. - Yeah, I know. But at least yours is just VA, right? Like you don't have C-Dog voice actor. - That's true. - Not all my videos are about the United Kingdom. It's all good, man. It's all good. - Yeah, how come? Why did you stop talking about Arizona?

- Where did the Arizona go? - Why did I not review Virginia? Come on man, what's up with that? - Yeah, I don't know. It's just, I don't know. 'Cause with me, right? At least with you guys, because your names are a lot more general, right? You're not bound to a certain topic. - I mean, I feel like- - Like I am, right? - Have you ever thought about changing your name?

- I have in a sense, yes. Actually a number of times I thought about it. Like when I was still doing let's plays, I thought about changing it just because first of all, half of the games I play aren't even anime. And second of all, I'm uploading like five let's plays in a week and two anime videos in a week. So I thought, is there really a point to call myself the anime man? But at that point now the anime man is just a brand. People know me not as Joey, but as,

- The anime man. - Yeah. - So it's really hard to just suddenly change the name because I've seen instances of YouTubers who are already established in the name who decide on a whim to change their username to something because it doesn't fit their current image. - Yeah. - And it's never worked out. - I know one channel I think it's worked out. There was a channel called, he goes by Lemme Know Now. Have you seen his videos?

- Oh yeah, he used to be a top 10 channel, didn't he? - Top 10, he used to be called top 10. - My God, let me know. Like he basically now, he basically just does fucking Netflix documentaries now. That's kind of like the level of YouTube content that he puts out. - Really, really good stuff. But yeah, he used to be called top tens. And obviously he's not doing top 10, it's now. I think he might do them every now and then. I don't think he does though. But yeah, he changed his name. And I remember being like weirded out at first. I was like, what?

- Why? But now you don't give a shit. - Yeah, but that's the thing, right? I feel that is just a really small handful. - True, true, true. - Most of the time you're just like, oh God, why did their name change? - You'd basically be resetting all the SEO as well. - Yeah, why are they making completely different content? I didn't sign up for this shit. - Yeah, I mean, like respect to anyone who has the balls to do that 'cause I wouldn't be able to get away from like my brand that I've built up over this entire time. - That's like if for example, right? Like you took away VA in your name.

- Yeah. - Right, and you just turn into C-Dog. - I don't think it would change anything. - I don't know, man. I think it might. - I think it's more like if you just change your name to like Connor. - Yeah, true, true, true.

- But that's the reason why, for me, for example, I want to say on Trash Taste, I just want to be established as Joey, not as the anime man. Because I feel that's a completely different side of me. - Yeah, 'cause in the... Yeah, you're gone in the clips, aren't you now? 'Cause we had a discussion when we were making the channel. We were like, so in the clips, are we calling us the anime man? Did XX thing or like the Joey? - Or just Joey.

I was at the mindset of like, okay, well it's a podcast and it's very personal and we're probably gonna be talking about personal things. I think it should be Connor, Joey, Garnt, et cetera. - And not to say that we don't mind you guys calling us by our usernames, right? But I think the end game for Trash Taste, at least in my mind is that I don't wanna be known as the anime man Giga Concedo. I wanted us to be known as Joey, Garnt and Connor of Trash Taste. - Yeah, yeah. - The boys. - The boys, right? - Man, 'cause dude, I remember I just,

I wanted to be able to like, 'cause I have all these fucking cool stories that are fucking useless to me. When am I ever gonna get mileage out of the story? - When am I gonna monetize my stories? - Right, exactly. - Let's just commoditize it. - Let's just commoditize my entire fucking life. - Well no, dude.

I love telling the chest story 'cause that's such a fucking cool story. I never get any use out of that. And also people just like, I don't know, it's like adding layers to like, to me, I love it when I get to learn more about a creator and like their personal side of what they actually like. And like, I think that, I don't know, also,

I'm just gonna fucking say it. I love fucking talking. I love talking. I just won't shut the fuck up. - I mean, I would argue we wouldn't have a podcast if we didn't like talking. - That's true. - That's why I can stream just chatting for like four hours 'cause I'm a fucking psychopath, I guess. I just won't shut up. - I have too many stories to hold. - I just wanna keep fucking chatting shit. I don't know, I love talking and it's great being able to

I love talking about YouTube as well. So I think it's such a like- - 'Cause you never get the opportunity to do it. - No, you never do. - Yeah, because all of our friends, all of our family, they don't know what the fuck we do. - Yeah, and I could talk about it with you guys, but I pretty dominate every single conversation we have off the podcast. You know what I mean? So it's nice to just talk about it here. And then, you know, we can just chat shit like poopy, poopy, stinky, you know, in private, you know?

- We're sorry for anyone who got into this podcast thinking it was gonna be like an anime exclusive podcast. - I think you two were worried about that and I was like, no dude, I wanted to be fucking chatting shit. - I wanted to be like, eventually, we start off as an anime podcast, right? - And then we eventually grow out of that. - And then we can eventually maybe start tensioning out. But no, right from the get go, first episode we were like, let's not talk about anime.

- Japan, let's talk about Japan. - Yeah, but we're really glad that you guys have like kind of stuck around and just enjoyed us chatting shit. Like arguably more so than us chatting about anime. - I wonder, I mean, going back to the previous topic, is it like, 'cause you hear a lot of advice that YouTubers give to people. I think a lot of it's pretty shit. Let's be honest. A lot of it's pretty fucking good. - Like how so?

- I mean, don't give examples necessarily, but like how are they shit? - Right. There's generic phrases that YouTubers say and let's be honest, we say it 'cause it's fucking easy. - You mean what I'm gonna call like the convention panel answers. - Give me, okay Garnt, give me the most stereotypical and I'll say if these are the shit ones. Give me the most stereotypical answers on advice when someone asks you how to be a YouTuber. - Just be yourself. - Oh, okay.

That is fucking terrible advice. - Shake my hand. - Do you know how many people I know who are insufferable? Okay, I have so many mates where I'm like, listen, you're a fantastic fucking mate, but if you act like this on camera, no one's gonna wanna watch. You know what I mean? You have a lot of mates, you're like, you just kind of come off as a dick.

See, because for me now, I used to say that just be yourself, right? And just have fun with it. Have fun with it, you know? But nowadays I just make it a meme because I get asked so many times. Someone's like, how do you start becoming a YouTuber? I just say- - Upload button. Click the upload button. - Are we actually gonna break this down? - Should we give advice? I think, why not? 'Cause people wanna know fucking YouTube advice and we may as well like actually give good advice. - Okay, how to become a successful YouTuber from Trash Taste. I feel like we say generic advice because there's a lot,

like I feel like the generic advice that we give is like the core of like the advice. - It is true. But it's fucking useless to most people. - It is useless because there's only so much you can say like a half hour panel, you know what I mean? - It's one of those things where it's like, you know in the show when the old man gives advice and you're like, that's fucking dumb. And then 10 years later when he actually does it, you're like, fuck he was right. That's pretty much the advice. 'Cause you're like, it's completely useless to anyone starting out 'cause,

That doesn't mean anything. But when you've been doing it for this long, yeah, it is the core like you said. But the be yourself thing is like, I think that's the biggest like- - Cop out?

- It is a bit of a cop out. - Because you don't, you're not yourself as a normal person. You're not a like a presenter. No one normally is a presenter or a personality who's made for like camera. You have to get that and you do it by forcing yourself to act maybe a little bit more exaggerated than you normally would. And then over time, maybe you get way more comfortable and that does become your kind of like default.

- I don't know, because like be yourself to me is like, I guess less accurate than just don't try to be someone you're not. - That's true. Don't change your personality. - If you are going to play a character, play a character that is based on your own self, which is, I feel like what,

like a lot of us do online anyway. You know what I mean? It's just like an exaggerated perfected version of ourselves. - That's what I say. I say like, imagine you on your best day and that is you on every single one of these YouTube videos. That's where it should be. Whether or not that should be right. Like, should you be sad on camera and stuff like that? It's like, it's not really about that.

think of every single best personality trait you have and show that, make that come through. And so that does require a bit of fuckery going on with your personality. You do have to change it a little bit. But I found as well that it made me a better person in general, that like the things that were people liked about me became more prominent in my general personality. So it wasn't more so that I was faking it more so that the real me kind of changed into a more confident version of myself.

And I, you know, YouTube has a way of really making you see your flaws. - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - It's a fine balance as well because I feel that, you know, it's not gonna like, you know, it's not about like faking a personality, right? Because if you- - It's exaggerating. - If you exact, but yeah, but if you exaggerate it,

too much. - Agreed. - That's when people are like, then you become- - Press X to doubt. - Then you become that psychopathic vlogger. - Yeah, then you become that psychopathic vlogger who is like the most angel image on the line. But then when you meet them in person, they're an absolute cunt. - Yeah. - It's like sometimes in conventions, people come up to me like, "Wow, you're a lot more calm than in your videos." And it's like, well, yeah, because- - Do you get that? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I am like, though, if I'm fucking crazy in my videos or doing something stupid, like I genuinely am like that, but you can't do that all the time. - Right, right. - Yeah. - Like, otherwise you're a psychopath. You know what I wanna be around. - Yeah, you're either a psychopath or Guy Fieri, right?

- In real life, it's fucking annoying. If you're in a friend group and someone wants to fucking be the center of attention all the time. It's not natural to want the center of attention all the time. It's totally okay to be in a friend group and be like, I'm just not gonna say anything for five minutes and I'll wait for my time to join in. - And if you don't join in at all, that's fine. - Yeah, man, it's whatever. - You can just be there.

- Yeah, there's plenty of YouTubers I've met where you're like, "Oh, you're totally different." - Oh yeah. - You are not even close. - Not gonna say any names obviously, but- - I don't wanna get in trouble. - We've had our fair share. - This is the gossip we have behind the scenes, unfortunately. - Yeah, if the cameras weren't on, we'd probably just be saying names. Like, "Yeah, that person sucks." - 'Cause when you, okay, you see drama and YouTube behind the scenes sometimes and you're like, "Wow."

everyone is drama that no one knows about. That's kind of crazy. So yeah, every YouTuber you watch probably has some drama. - It's just about whether they- - Everyone has dirt on someone else. - It's just about whether they choose to monetize it. - That's so true. That's so true.

but everyone has shit with other people. It's very natural. - I've had issues with other YouTubers before, but I've always done it in private and I've always swatched that piece in private. You know what I mean? And I've always, if someone's crossed the line, I've told them. - Yeah, I guess going back to like general advice on how to be a successful YouTuber, I think one thing that's not really mentioned a lot is just know who your audience is. Like don't try to appeal to everyone.

You know what I mean? - No. - Don't try and please everybody. - You're gonna be disliked by a lot of people. - Yeah, you're gonna be disliked by a lot of people. Just accept that. I feel like one thing that not many people think about, especially like even us when we started, we didn't really think about it. We didn't really think, oh, I wanna be this kind of person or aim for this kind of audience. But it's something you kind of grow into. And now all three of us have very different brands in terms of like what our content is about. And it's something we grow into.

anyone who's trying to be a YouTuber has a harder time getting into that because you have way more competition. Because I know that if I were just starting YouTube out today, I would be totally different. Like my content would be totally different than what I'm doing now. And that's because I exist. So if I exist, then you can't do the same thing. You can't exist in the same space that I do. And so one thing that you got to find is like,

a unique way to make yourself memorable. And that might, sometimes that might just be your, how you approach your content. Sometimes that may be your personality, but a lot of the successful YouTubers that are rising up quickly have found a way to make their own niche. Even if it's like this very saturated market. Like I think-

- The person who like sticks out to me the most recently I can think of was like Nakey Jakey and how like fast he rose. And that's because his content and the way he delivered it was just so unique compared to every other gaming content out there. Even though gaming was such a saturated market. - The gaming essay side of YouTube is,

- Yeah, and I would say like, that's one extreme. You don't have to go like as unique as him, but even like a lot of other people who are rising up have found a way to make their own voice unique or make their presentation unique or something that is memorable about them, if that makes sense. - And it's funny as well because a lot of those types of YouTubers tend to be the most humble. - Yeah. - Because like, I remember in a Nakey Jakey video, he once said like, "Yeah, because I'm just John Tron on a exercise ball."

That's what he called himself. He's like, I'm Jon Tron on an exercise ball. And I'm like, you shouldn't sell yourself that short because he's completely different. He's made up his own thing. And I feel, as you said, that's the thing, right? It's like a lot, there's nothing wrong with getting inspired.

by an already existing YouTuber. And like, you know, being like, I like that aspect of this YouTuber. So I'm gonna take that into my own thing. But there's a difference between getting inspired by PewDiePie and then trying to be PewDiePie 2.0. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, I think when I started YouTube, I think like, I definitely loved Garnt's videos, but I just knew that like, that just doesn't work with me.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - As much as I'd love to be able to make a Gigguk video, I just can't, I can't pull it off. - It's a Gigguk video because it's a Gigguk video. - I think you learn, a good YouTuber will learn very quickly what tools they're working with. And you can figure out what you can kind of get out of that.

- It's difficult though. 'Cause I think again, like you've said, like a lot of people would like specialties are coming up now. So if you wanna join something like gaming, you need a fucking good skill to separate you. - Yeah, exactly. - So think like, you know, if you're making a video, like is it just another carbon copy of someone else's? Or I always told myself, like, let's say, even though we're in different genres, right? Let's say Markiplier uploads a video, right? At the same time I upload a video. What reason does someone have to watch my video over his?

Because, you know, that's, I mean, this is the problem, right? It's only X amount of time in the day and you need the eyeballs on you. So you need to make your videos as good as the best people on YouTube, otherwise people aren't gonna watch. Like some people will and they'll be very grateful 'cause you're doing a very niche thing, but in general,

you need to make your content like as good as other people around you. It doesn't matter how big or small you are. This is the fundamental. - Yeah, because everybody starts off small. - Yeah, everyone starts off small. The problem is, is that the YouTube algorithm doesn't give a fuck at your size. - I mean, I'd say that's,

I obviously agree, you should make your content as good as possible. I just don't think, especially as a small growing YouTuber, making your content as good as like some of the bigger YouTubers isn't a necessity. - You're not going to, but you should have that mindset of- - No, you should, you should eventually. But what I'm saying is like, if you're starting out YouTube,

some of the charm is just discovering this unknown YouTuber who just like is like a diamond in the rough. You shouldn't be like the quality of your videos. You shouldn't need to think that you need to make like a John Tron fucking quality-esque video right off the bat. Because like, I feel like,

Getting into YouTube, you should understand what YouTube is at its core. - Yeah, 'cause I think I watched like, I still do, I watched like 40 hours plus of YouTube a week. And been doing that for like a decade. - YouTube at its core isn't a video hosting platform. YouTube at a core is a friendship simulator. And I mean, that's, it is. - I really wanna be friends with report of the week, man.

- No, because the thing is a lot of the most successful YouTubers, you know what their personality is like. And a lot of the reason why I started watching like YouTubers big or small is because I like some part of their personality. And there was some like, even if there was someone I hated, there was part of their personality or part of their content that I couldn't stop watching or drew me to it.

And I feel like a lot of the successful YouTubers have been able to kind of like convey their personality into their content in some way. - That's true. - That goes back to like being like memorable and stuff like that. But you know, it plays into like parasocial relationships and all that, which is a totally fucking different topic. But if you're talking about success, like it's basically,

- You can become successful quickly by just having people who relates to you as a person. - That's true. - And that goes into, you can't please everyone 'cause your personality is not gonna appeal to everyone. But having your own, putting yourself out there and if people like you or if people find part of you interesting and you can convey that, then you will grow as a YouTuber. - It's true. I think unfortunately everyone can't be like,

ultra mega charming right off the bat. Like, I mean, like report of the week. I love that guy's that I love him. And he, that, that kind of personality doesn't come along often. Right. It's just pure charming and like innocence. But you know, like what if you have like fucking

just a normal medium boring personality, right? Like I feel like I probably had like a boring ass person. - Oh yeah, all of our first videos were just like. - Yeah, but it's like developing that along with your finding your niche, like you said, like going into it, like knowing your audience, like these are all important things. - Like, you know, I was someone who was like this, you know, awkward, antisocial kid. - Same, same, same. - And especially like as a YouTuber, I still don't feel like I've changed a lot. I just know that.

hey, like if I'm gonna be a, like when I realized, hey, if I'm gonna be a fucking degenerate, let's just like notch, let's just go all out. I don't fucking give a shit anymore, you know what I mean? And it's just taking part of yourselves and just like going full throttle with it. I don't know, I don't know. Because I knew, I knew like that's just gonna make you stand out, you know what I mean? And like now I'm not ashamed of being a fucking degenerate and I'm fucking glad

that I took that change in my content, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - Because it just made me like be off, like it just made me less embarrassed about being who I was originally. And like, instead of being a quiet kid, I could just talk about all the shit I was like thinking about, right? - Anime titties. - Anime titties, let's go baby. - So bottom line, how to be a successful YouTuber?

be yourself. Just be yourself. - I guess that's, yeah, that's the- - That's kind of like what I'm talking about. - That's what it all goes back to. - Because it's the core, right? It's the fucking core that I'm talking about. Where I can't, normally I can't say this kind of answer in a fucking panel or a convention. - Oh yeah, no, 'cause you can fucking spore everyone to death. - Yeah. - But, you know, there's, and I also think it's important to just upload, like just do it. - Consistency. - I have so many friends who are like, "I'm working on something big." Like it's big.

I'm sure you all have this friend who's like, "Oh, I've got shit in the works." And then it's like two years later, "Oh, it's coming." - Yeah, it's coming. - It's coming. - It's coming. - And then they upload it and then they're like, "That's it, I'm famous, I'm done." And they realize they have to do it again. - The amount of channels I've seen that have more update videos than actual content on their channel is staggering.

- And it's that thing, right? Where I think everyone who watches YouTube idolizes that YouTuber who uploads once every three months and it's a legendary video, right?

But in reality, right? There's only a very small room for channels like that. There's only a select few who can do that. And in reality, most of us have to just keep fucking uploading. That's just how it is. 'Cause a lot of us aren't capable of putting in that amount of work into a video. Like I love, what's his name? Frederick Knudson, what's his name? - Down the rabbit hole. - Down the rabbit hole, love his videos. I don't mind how long it takes him. 'Cause that man must put in, I don't even wanna know how much work he puts in.

- I love that wings of redemption. - It's like the two and a half hour long. - I've watched it like four times. - In the same sense, you know, like the right opinion, for example. - Right, exactly. I watched this four- - Fucking or four hours. - When I was sick, I watched this four hour video in one sitting of his Nick Carter avocado. And I thought I was losing my damn mind watching this.

But again, everyone wants to be that channel, right? The really well-respected channel that does that. But unfortunately, I think as a YouTuber, you'll know very quickly on if you can do that or not, if that's your kind of thing. Some people can do that. A lot of people just gotta accept that you're gonna be that dude who makes one video every two days. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just embrace it. - There's a space for that on YouTube. - Yeah, there's a space for everything. If you've gotta make slime videos,

- Don't, I'm kidding. - I for one love the slime videos, to be honest with you. When I discovered that like a week ago, I was like, okay, I kinda like it, not gonna lie. - You know what the biggest pitfall I think a lot of YouTubers fall down is that when they get one successful video series, they're like,

- Make 10 of that. - Do it again. - Make 10 of that. - Do it again. - And I think this- - You mean every top 10 channel? - Oh my God. Like you meet people and they make, they just make repeats and repeats of the same video. - Yeah. - And you've got to realize like if that's the only thing that's pulling people in, you haven't made any other foundation to keep people

- Yeah, you're gonna be pigeonholed. - So when that stops, eventually you're gonna get fucking bored of doing it. You're kind of got not really anything else. That's why like- - You're gonna burn out eventually, like we talked about. Putting a foundation is actually pretty, really important. - Super important. - And something that most people don't think about, 'cause most people would just want to get as successful as they can, as quickly as they can. - More views, more views, more views. And it's like, I've been doing the cosplay series and yeah, I've done a fuck ton of those.

But I do one of them about every two, three months. So they're really well spaced out and it's really important to just make sure you're diversifying it so that, that sound like a fucking business meeting right now. Make sure the synergy of your uploads are diverse enough to get the cooperation. - I mean, that's the exact problem I had with "Answer Me, Senpai", right? Like I haven't done one in fuck, like seven months, eight months or something. And people to this day ask me when's the next "Answer Me, Senpai". - But when you bring it out, people are gonna be like, "Hell yeah." - When I do it eventually, maybe,

it's gonna be great. But the reason why I stopped making those for the longest time is because that's exactly what happened. It was really successful the first time and I was like, I'll do it every week. Let's do it over and over and over again. I've made like 60 Yantzumi samplers, right? And now at this point, I'm like, I wanna do something else with it. I just don't wanna like upload another fucking Q and A again because that's essentially what it is. It's just a fucking Q and A. - I also just wanna just make sure people know that at the end of the day, we're just fucking dudes who,

talk shit in front of a camera, it's not a big deal. Like why do people get like, people with 10,000 sub-stock and egos and I'm like, bro,

My job is literally me being a clown. I like, do not think you're hot shit ever. - I don't know why people do that either. - You talking about Japanese cartoons, dude, that's sad. - Yeah, dude. - Like, dude, come on, fucking know your place, Jesus Christ. - It's like, it blows my mind how you see like some of these channels, like, you see like, dude, you'll see like reaction channels and they're like, they're like, "I'm kind of a big deal now, I'm kind of a big..."

- Bro. - Bro, like chill. Like chill. I see the shit you're posting on Twitter. I'm just like, bro, just stop, man. - The audacity of this man. It's just insane. - It's just like, there are like a few channels who could be complete assholes and I'd be like, I'm still gonna watch dude. You're fucking God tier content. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You deserve a good dick sucking. But most of us are shitty YouTubers who don't make anything. So don't get an ego. We don't do anything impressive. - Yeah, you're not, you're not.

- And I think having that attitude towards it, like give us, I, each one of my videos is my baby and I care so much about it, but I never ever think I'm like anything special. - Yeah. - I think that goes a long way in making you a down to earth person and personality. - No, no, being humble goes a very, very long way, right?

And that's what it is. Like as Garnt said before, right? Like YouTube is just a friendship simulator. If you want to get those friendships, being humble is probably the best personality trait you can have on YouTube. - Oh dude, dude, I've made some of the best friends in my life from YouTube. You guys, right?

- Yeah, exactly. Here we are now, the boys. - The boys wouldn't have come together if one of us was a dick. - Everyone I've met, obviously including you guys, it's just like you meet and you just have this, you can totally tell that they just don't see themselves as anything special. - I mean, I feel very lucky to be in the place that I am now. I wake up and I'm like, man, I'm fucking lucky to be here, man. - Dude, I'm gonna smash a conbini sandwich and get back to work. This is amazing. I'm in fucking Chupacabra.

- Yeah, I know. - Meanwhile, like people with like a hundred K subs, just like the massive ego is like, where's my caviar in the morning? - I've seen some abhorrent behavior from people who just think they're hot shit. - And then this isn't just limited to YouTuber, but like Instagrammers. - Oh, Instagrammers, TikTokers. - My God. - Just chill it. Just don't.

Don't be an asshole. That's the second thing. - You wanna be a successful YouTuber? Don't be a dick. - But also I think thinking about the future as well and just planning ahead, I think is also important because for like, when you hear about YouTuber success stories, everyone always just sees, oh man, they're growing so fucking quickly, right? I want that. I wanna grow quickly, but what,

they don't see a lot of the times is how fucking long a lot of these YouTubers worked before that. - Yeah. - Right? - The prep, right? - You always see that one YouTuber who rises up quickly, like Mr. Beast, for example. Mr. Beast was like, I think it was last year or two years ago, he was like the hottest shit on YouTube in terms of- - He still kind of is. - I mean, he still is. He's still like one of the- - He's approaching like 50 million.

- He's like one of the biggest creators on this platform. But what a lot of people don't talk about is just how many times he had failed and how many different kinds of content that he did. And he's like, if you want to be a YouTuber, you're gonna put in the grind and it is going to be a grind.

And not a lot of YouTubers talk about the grinds they put into before they were like successful. 'Cause everyone always sees that massive fucking year that they had, right? But like, I remember being a small YouTuber and working like, I've been on YouTube for 13 years. And most of that 13 years was being a fucking nobody. You know what I mean? - I have a question. How many years did you work on your YouTube channel before you saw a penny?

- Seven, eight years. - Jesus Christ. - Okay, 'cause do you ever get those comments where people are like, "Dude, YouTubers make too much money." And then I always just tell them, "Dude, work for seven years for nothing "and then see if you like, if you want, "tell me you wanna work for seven years "at the chance of being successful and getting some money." And it's also a system that allows some,

amazing things. The reason why some people make, you know, like I'm never gonna make nearly as much money as someone like Logan or Jake Paul makes. But that system is also in place so that that one animator who makes one video a month can just make enough to get by. 'Cause if Logan Paul and Jake Paul didn't make that much, then the animator down there couldn't make that much.

You know what I mean? And it's, yeah, some of these YouTubers have way too much fucking money. But it's a system that, you know, you only see the success and you never, like you said, you never see the hard work. Like you never see the 40 hours a week I was putting in while trying to get a degree. - When we say rise and grind, we mean that half as a joke, but we genuinely mean that sometimes. - I mean, we talked about how we try to have less hands-on approach now. Like, you know, some of us do varying degrees of success. - Like any business, you,

You grow and you delegate the jobs. - I don't think there is literally a YouTuber I know that hasn't gone through a period where they just wanted to,

all they did was do YouTube from moment to night, from like waking up to night. Like there was a year I'm sure for all three of us where we just, this was all we did. And we put in that fucking grind and the hard part was learning once we were successful how to get out of this grind because it's like unsustainable. But you gotta be prepared to put the work in there because it is going to be really, really hard fucking work. 'Cause you got to compete with everyone.

And every YouTuber I know has gone through a period where they've just wanted to fucking kill themselves for how much work they've done. But that's just the landscape, right? 'Cause that's how much people want to succeed. And if you're not prepared to do that for like a year at least,

- Minimum. - Minimum, like a minimum, you gotta do this for a year. Doesn't matter what kind of life situation you're in, whether you're in like fucking uni, like you're working, you got a job, YouTube doesn't care. YouTube doesn't wait for that shit. - It's unfortunate because, you know, obviously likely the more older you get, the more responsibilities you have, which means less time for YouTube. And it just, it sucks because life isn't fucking fair.

we're really lucky that we all started at like a perfect time, which is in university where we could afford to throw everything else out the window. And I feel bad, 'cause sometimes you get emails from people who are like working fathers or you're like, "Hey, I really need to do X and X." And I'm like, "Fuck dude."

- It's kind of hard 'cause you really have to put in way more time than you could ever put in in your situation. It sucks 'cause it's not fair. - 'Cause like for me, when people ask me, what do I have to do to like make YouTube my job? The first thing I ask them, no matter how many like sub counts they are, if they were thinking about making this a job, I'm like, are you prepared to take a year out of your life? - To make it work. - To make it work, at least a year out of your life. If you're prepared to take a year out of your life to make this work, then it's,

something I think is feasible with the right work ethic, but it's not just about work. It's not just about, 'cause with YouTube, you not only have to work hard, you have to work smart as well to stand out. - And that's not even a guarantee, right? That one year is like you have a chance of becoming successful. - But like, okay, if we're throwing pure numbers into this, into the algorithm, I feel like if you have over 100,000 subscribers, you can make this into a job. - Yeah, you probably could. You're maybe not right at that point, but you can,

- With the good amount of views, I reckon. - With a healthy amount of views. - With a healthy amount of views, like if you've just like obviously just reached a hundred thousand and you have like- - Don't quit your job, don't quit. - I'm not saying you can quit your job, but you do have a chance to make this a job if you play your cards right. But like I said, are you prepared to take a year out of your life maybe? You know what I mean? - Yeah.

That's kind of like the crossroads I've seen a lot of people at. - And there's also, you might see a channel and they might've gotten like a big burst of numbers, but there's maybe something going on on their channel that's quite unhealthy, right? Like you can see like if they have, if their channel is like low views, low views, low views, low views, and one big view, and that's all, that's consistently what they're getting, it's normally a bad sign.

- Yeah. - It's like, we can just see a channel and we can know if it's gonna be like successful. - 'Cause most of the time, if you reach a hundred thousand, you have some kind of a foundation. - You've been doing something right. - You've got a foundation and this is like, unless you've just had one bang of video and then you've just reached a hundred thousand, but like most, like I'm throwing this out, but like most of the cases

I know where someone reaches a hundred thousand, I knew that they could turn it into a job. And it was something that you won't be living well when you start off doing it. - None of us did. - None of us were. - I was worrying about being kicked out of my house. So that was fine. - But if you understand enough about how to monetize your work and the internet, like fucking artists, please,

please learn how to monetize your work. There's so many talented people out there where they're not making a single penny because they don't know how to market their skillsets. Like if you just do a bit of research about how to market yourself and how to monetize your platform, you can make this a job.

- I truly do think anyone can be a YouTuber. Like it's not- - I do as well. - I think it just takes different amounts of time for different people. But I think anyone can do it. - Some people it just clicks, for some people you really have to grind it out. - So at the end of the day, and even if you're a working father with 10 kids, I'm sure there is a chance or some path that you could make it work, right?

That's pretty what you want. - You just gotta figure it out. - It's hard, man. I mean, there's no foolproof way to make it happen. - We're not saying it's easy. There's no foolproof way, but there is, I guess, ways that you can increase your chances. - I hope this helps. - There's a lot of ways. - We can definitely go way more in depth into this in future podcasts. - I could chat for like four hours in this shit. - Yeah. - So we'll probably leave it for,

- But in the meantime, guys, thank you to all the patrons. First of all, as you can see on the screen right now. - Beautiful motherfuckers on screen. I love this guy. - Yeah. - And this guy especially. - Yeah. They're all amazing people. And if you like to be- - This guy could be a successful YouTuber. - That guy could be a successful YouTuber. - What if you were like pointing for like an already successful YouTube? - SeadogV. - It's like what? - I'm not successful yet. - Self-funded. But yeah, if you'd like to join in on the Patreon and help us support the show, then go to patreon.com/subs.

- We never drank the wine. - I'm joking. - Oh yeah, no, we will. We will, don't worry. But yeah, also follow us on the subreddit and Twitter, post your memes, all that good shit. And also, - Buy the Trash Taste shirt, baby. - Check out our shirts if you wanna spread the degeneracy and the trash fucking taste, whatever. - Again, these pre-orders will only be around for two weeks, I believe, until October 24th. So again, go to buckretzer.co/trashtaste, link's in the description if you'd like to pre-order these, 'cause once these are gone, these are gone. So get in on that shoot quickly, guys.

- Dude, I know YouTubers lie all the time and they say like, dude, it feels good. And then it's like fucking sandpaper, but this is actually,

- We know the guy who made this and we can guarantee this shit feels clean. - This is actually the sample that we asked him to send to us before we were like, okay, we wanna know before we promote it. - We've tested this with our own skin. - It's beautiful. - We can confirm it's great. Yeah, so yeah guys, thanks again for joining in on another episode of Trash Taste. I've been simp boy number one with simp boy number two and three. I've been super simp. - Super simp.

- Is there a VTuber here, sorry? Are you simping on it? - I'm about to go super sim. - I'm leaving. Bye. - Me when I donate to VTubers. I'll see you guys later. Bye.