In this groundbreaking episode, Jonathan, Tim, and guest researcher Professor Quirijn de Mast explore a landmark clinical trial conducted in partnership with Tanzanian scientists and community members at the Kilimanjaro Christian Medical Centre (KCMC).
Published in Nature Medicine, the study investigates what happens when people switch between Western-style eating and a traditional diet from the Kilimanjaro region of Northern Tanzania — rich in fermented foods, legumes, ancient grains, and green vegetables.
The results? Rapid, measurable changes to immune function, inflammation, and gut health — with powerful implications for global disease risk.We dive into the science behind millet porridge, fermented banana beer, and the fibre-rich meals that Tanzanian communities have eaten for generations.
Quirijn shares insights from his 20-year collaboration with local researchers.
This episode explores scientific research on traditional East African diets and inflammation, led by Quirijn in close collaboration with Tanzanian scientists and participants. As Western scientists and hosts, we are aware of the need for humility when discussing cultural traditions not our own, and we approach this conversation with respect and curiosity.
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00:00 Can This African Diet Transform Your Health in 2 Weeks?
02:47 What Makes African Diets Healthier Than Mediterranean?
05:17 The Mediterranean Diet: Are We Getting It Wrong?
07:57 Africa’s Forgotten Superfood: Ancient Grain Porridge
10:37 Are These Ancient Grains the Original Superfoods?
13:17 Diet Changes That Predict Disease — Here’s How
15:58 What Pre-Western Diets Reveal About Human Health
18:31 We Built a Pop-Up Restaurant on Mount Kilimanjaro
21:00 This Fermented Banana Beer Might Boost Immunity
23:23 Inflammation Skyrockets After Just 2 Weeks on This Diet
26:07 Can a Fermented Drink Reverse Western Diet Damage?
28:47 How Food Labels Trick You Into Thinking You're Healthy
31:38 Is Your Immune System Running on the Wrong Fuel?
34:12 These Roots Are Healthier Than Potatoes — Here’s Why
36:51 Your Porridge Is Making You Unhealthy (Without You Knowing)
39:35 What People Actually Eat on a Traditional African Diet
42:21 Pasteurised Fermented Foods — The Surprising Downside
45:06 Most People Don’t Eat Enough Fiber. Do You?
47:49 Why One Diet Doesn’t Work for Everyone
50:33 The #1 Diet Swap to Transform Your Health
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Mentioned in today's episodeImmune and metabolic effects of African heritage diets versus Western diets in men: a randomized controlled trial), Nature Medicine (2025)
Global Impacts of Western Diet and Its Effects on Metabolism and Health: A Narrative Review), Nutrients (2023)
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