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Inside the Meta monopoly trial

2025/5/27
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David Pierce
知名技术记者和播客主持人,专注于社会媒体、智能家居和人工智能等领域的分析和评论。
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Lauren Feiner
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Victoria Song
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Lauren Feiner: 作为一名长期跟踪Meta反垄断案件的记者,我认为市场定义是法官判决的关键。FTC需要证明Meta垄断了与亲友分享和互动的市场,即使这个主要用途不再是人们在这些应用上做的主要事情。Meta则认为他们与TikTok和YouTube竞争,因为每个人都有这些应用,他们竞争的是人们的时间和注意力。尽管如此,Meta内部似乎也认识到,与朋友联系仍然是人们想要的,即使规模越来越小,但绝对数量仍在增长。总的来说,我认为FTC的案件很难打赢,因为他们有举证责任,而且很难看到Instagram的增长空间。我预测Meta会赢,但如果FTC赢了,我也不会感到震惊。 David Pierce: 我认为FTC试图证明MeWe非常重要,争论的焦点是市场定义。五年前的审判与现在的审判会有很大不同,因为自案件最初提起以来,市场发生了很大变化。如果Facebook是人们与朋友闲逛的地方,那么Instagram和WhatsApp提供了竞争性的方式,Facebook收购它们是为了扼杀竞争对手。我发现法庭上的气氛摇摆不定,证人之间的故事也大相径庭。Instagram方面的主要问题是,Meta帮助了还是伤害了Instagram。

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After more than a month of testimony, the Meta antirust trial is beginning to slow down. The Google search remedies trial, meanwhile, is about to heat up again, with closing arguments coming soon. The Verge’s Lauren Feiner has been in the DC courthouse for all of it, and has finally emerged to tell us about what she’s seen, and learned, from two all-important monopoly trials. After that, The Verge’s Victoria Song tells us about her latest experience with Google’s smart glasses prototypes, what Google is doing differently from Meta and Apple, and what she thinks Jony Ive and OpenAI might be building. Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline about what to do now that Mozilla is shutting down Pocket.

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