Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch. Therapus. He's got you up. He slayed and he shook. It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus. With me, Jake Shane. Hi pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Um...

I I've realized when as the season has progressed that I haven't done any of my life updates that I used to. So I thought now would be such a fun time to do some. I'm on day 11. By the time this airs, it'll be day 12 of not smoking weed anymore.

I was becoming a bit manic and I know I always am in kind of like a little bit of a manic state, but it was making it really, really bad. I was having like nightmares. It was just making me really anxious. So I've stopped. I really miss it a lot.

I don't know if it's forever, but it's definitely for right now. In terms of things that I've done to make me feel better, I started a new TV show, Killing Eve. I'm on season two. It's amazing. That's always something I do to make myself feel better. I always throw myself into a bingeable television series, and it always...

makes me feel better just because I'm able to like put myself in the world of whatever TV show that is. And then I also listen to my classic winter comfort albums, which are Evermore and Anything by Phoebe Bridgers. We have a really exciting episode for you tonight. One of my dear, dear friends that I've known for such a long time, Olivia Jade, came on the podcast and I'm so, so lucky and grateful she did. She's so lovely. She's such a great friend and I

And I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. If you don't know her already, she's incredible and I love her. And I really think you're going to enjoy tonight's episode. I love you, pussy. Oh, as always, submit tell me what's wrongs to pass that puss.com. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. And yeah, enjoy the episode. Love you, pussies.

Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapist. Today we have such a special guest and such a dear friend, Olivia Jade. Welcome to Therapist. Hey Liv. Hey Jake. Olivia and I go way back.

We do. We go way up. Olivia used to teach me how to vlog, and now I'm showing you how to podcast. You're the king. Oh, stop. Jake used to take my vlog camera. Yeah, I was a bit of a fame whore.

Like, I was like, wait, give that to me. You were like a natural. We should have seen this coming, honestly. Oh, that's what, that is what you said. That is what you said after all this began. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I used to take her camera and just pray that it made it in. And it takes every second.

single time and it did and then i would play it really chill every time it made it in i don't even think you'd even say anything yeah i wouldn't it was just but like i would say think like like everyone else would be like oh i saw you in the vlog be like oh like why are you weird like why are you talking to me about that like yeah but i was it was yeah that was an era it was an era um how are you doing today i'm good this is my first ever podcast i was just telling jake i really have there's so many cameras in here that you probably can't see i don't know where i'm supposed to look you're looking at me

The best view. You know, you're the first person. Well, I guess I'll save that question for later. The what brings you in today? Because you're the first person to. To get that question? Yeah. Because this was like our new thing for season two. It's like we're going to start asking people what brings you in today. Okay. Well, you brought me in firstly. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. No, but I do have a really weird phobia. What? It's kind of strange, but whispering. So you have misophonia?

Is that a real thing? Yes, it is. Do you like, it's like, it's like, like, you know, like when someone's like eating and you're like, oh, like stop chewing in my ear. Yeah. That's me. So that's not great either. But like actually whispering people like talking in a low voice, it freaks you out. I just like like nails on a chalkboard. It's the worst thing I think ever. Has it like flared up recently?

No, it's been a thing since I'm a kid. I just really don't like when people whisper. It's so strange. Like, do you remember the first time someone whispered and you hated it? Because I, you know how like my thing is heat. I remember the first time I was really hot. Which was? I was in my TV room and I was watching TV and I was trying to go to bed in there. And my dad said, aren't you really hot? And I said, no. And I was hot.

You were hot after he said that. It's like once you notice it, you're like, what? Right. I remember my mom would whisper at me when I was little. Well, not little. That sounds torturous. Hold on. Let me rephrase that. I remember I told her when I was like 16 or 17. I really don't like whispering. So then her and my sister would whisper at me. In your ear. And it would like scare the hell out of me. Would you cry?

No, I wouldn't cry, but I would just run out of the room like this is the worst thing you could do to me. So that's weird phobia. Another thing I noticed this morning as I was getting ready, when I stand up, I have to show you. Okay. If I position myself like this, why does it look like I have like a tumor growing off my knee? Where? Wait, maybe it's this way? No, you just have a kneecap. That's a kneecap. Go the other way. I see.

I see what you mean. Yeah. But like, it's just, you're just petite. No, I don't know what's up with that. I think it's not normal. No, it's normal. You're just petite. Petite. You're a petite girl. Oh, thanks. Well, what are you therapist about today? Therapist? Like, what are you angry about? I'll tell you what I'm angry about first. Okay. I don't know if I'm angry yet. It's early. You don't get angry easy. Mm-mm.

But when you do get angry, it's not fun. But I don't know if... Have I really ever been that angry where you were like... Not at me. But I've seen you angry at others. And I was like, not me. Not me. Because you're a really, really sweet girl. I feel like I don't get angry that often. And then you like... You...

You excuse a lot of bad behavior from others around you all the time. Do you know what I mean? I'm really good at that. Yeah. And then like when you get pissed, like you snap. Yeah. But not like snap. You're just like, you know. You know what I think? I go like inward. Like I probably won't actually snap outwardly. You don't. Like at somebody. You don't. But I'll definitely just get like really quiet. You do get quiet and I can see it. Make a note. Yeah, you note. I note. I don't note. I realize that my bark is a lot bigger than my bite.

Your bark is wolf. Like last night I was complaining about something, someone, and I was just like... What happened? Someone just really pissed me off. Like they did one thing that I just found to be... Okay, I'm going to tell you and I'm going to cut this out. Do you watch Housewives? I really don't. I've seen episodes because Andrew's obsessed, so I watch it with Andrew sometimes, but...

Yeah, not really. Ever? You would love it. I know. I love shitty reality TV. What have you? Yeah, you watch a lot of TV. I like TV. I just watched. I mean, it's so bad. It's good. Actually, is that rude to say? No, no. No, that's okay. Is it? Yes. Olivia, like, you're fine. Emily in Paris. Love. Great. It's not reality. I can't get into it. It's fabulous. Everyone loves it. Are the clothes good? No.

But isn't it Emily in Rome this season? Like, I can't get into it. Yeah, so I think she is taking Rome next season. Oh, it's next... It's not over? I thought this was the last season. Oh, I hope not, because they left us on a cliffhanger. Sorry, spoiler. Yeah, like, it's fine. Like, what is the appeal of this show? Everybody watches it. It's just good. It's just, like, shitty and good, and there's...

sex and romance and it's cute. But is it like such PZ sex? Like, you know, like I want the down and dirty. Yeah, no, no, no, it's not. I don't even know why I said that. There's like no sex in it. You have a really wide palette when it comes to it. Like you will, like if I'm like watching something, I'm like, you've probably seen this. I have recently gotten into some, okay, so there's like

obviously so many movies out there but then I feel like there's a certain realm of movies that are just like really intense crazy directors that and my sister my sister's boyfriend right a lot of people in my life are very obsessed with movies so they've all turned me on to this category of movies that's like I probably would never used to find it interesting and now I'm hooked like I just watch have you seen boogie night

No, like, see, I can't sit through something. You would love that. Like, when was it filmed? 1960? Like, you know I can't. Like, I'm just gonna, I can't. No, it's young Mark Wahlberg. Oh. And his dick's out. Oh, watch it. That's how she gets me. That's how she gets me. You always tell me, I'm like, well, is Claire like a sex scene? No, there's, it's the whole thing is basically about, like, porn. It's so good. Is he a prostitute? No.

Sort of. I honestly, when I, when I first started watching it, I went into it blind. So I thought it was going to be like some dance movie and you could see my surprise when it didn't go that way. But his dick is out and that was like before prosthetics. So like I'm down. Well, this was a prosthetic. Cause the whole thing is like, he's got this massive. Shlong. Like that's the whole point.

It's really good. You should watch it. I think I'm going to watch it. Yeah. So I started really liking Paul Thomas Anderson movies who directed that one as well. What else has he done? Let's see. What else have I watched recently?

I love The Bachelor. Okay. So you would like Housewives if you like The Bachelor. I know. Housewives is so much more real than The Bachelor. Well, which one do you watch? Beverly Hills? Okay. So you wouldn't be able to watch Beverly Hills because you'd be like, I know this too well. Right. You need to watch New York. There's a New York? Yeah.

Yes. I know there's one in Georgia, right? Atlanta. Yeah, that one's crazy. That one's like the holy trinity of, well, okay, actually, if you want a current one, Salt Lake City. Okay, wait, that's the one I've heard about. And what's the one with all the, oh, no, you know what I'm thinking of? Vanderpump rules. Oh, yes. See, they're all so intertwined. Well, Vanderpump comes from Beverly Hills. Vanderpump is good. Okay. Housewives is great. Okay.

No, Vanderpump is great. Vanderpump is great when it can be. Housewives is just like an examination of like the – like female psyche. Like it's incredible. Okay. Like I oftentimes – like the older I get, the more I feel like it isn't scripted.

Because like they would react in wait. And I understand that there's situations where they're like, bring this up, bring this up, bring this up. But the situations at play are real. Yeah. I think though the problem with most reality TV these days is that I feel like it all is starting to get very scripted. It is. Because then these people get kind of famous and then they're like, wait, I don't really want to share my life. So they don't make stuff up.

I'm so happy you said that. Yes, because the reason Housewives is so good is because everybody in the show, and Louise, tell me if I'm wrong, is...

Out to get one another. So they will pull something from someone else's life and like come in like, like Bethany Frankel just made a tick tock where she was talking about like how someone would come in with like a smoking gun. Like if Jill, Jill's on New York heard something about Bethany. Bethany's a housewife. Yes. Jill would bring it onto the show. Like the other housewives bring stuff about each other onto the show without consulting each other. Oh, so they're like, no, they're dirty. They get dirty. For example, in real housewives of Beverly Hills, um,

What was her name? Was it Taylor Russell? It was Camille Grammer. Camille Grammer brought something. No, it was Taylor. Taylor's husband's name was Russell. Camille Grammer brought, like they were in an abusive relationship, Taylor and her former husband. And that was not talked about at the show at all. Like no one brought it up. No one brought it up. And Camille sat down at the dinner table in front of the cameras and brought it up.

They're messy. They're messy. They're like high school girls. They are high school girls. They're high school girls. It's fun to watch. It's seriously like when I'm like kids. Yeah. And all the kids love it. They do. The other kid, like you'll, you can tell like there's housewife kids and like they all eat it up. Like they all like, they're all like part of the show. They're probably like, and then like when, when the housewife kid like really pops off, like they'll like include their life in the show. Like in New Jersey, Teresa, Teresa's kids like fight with the cast members.

Oh, so they're like about it. Yeah, they're about it. Interesting. Because they're like, I'll give it a go. Yeah, no. You've sold me. The best thing. And then there's, and then, okay, I don't want to spoil it, but in season four, it is the best finale of any reality show I've ever seen in my entire life. There is a betrayal of such epic proportions. Have you seen the TikTok sound? That's like receipts, proof. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's from Salt Lake. And it's very real. In the moment, like you're like. Okay. Okay.

to watch it. You know what it reminds me of? That thing. We don't have to include this in. Do you remember the prank you pulled on me? We can include this. You don't care? No, this is funny. This prank. I didn't have the mind span with energy to pull this prank. These were our friends. You guys, this prank was satanic.

I can't believe this exists. I feel like you should like put the video up. You mean the screenshots? Yeah. Of the photo, the photoshopped. Okay. Have I ever told you this? I have. It haunts me to this day.

I don't even think I knew this was going on. You didn't. You were so out of it. You didn't know. I felt so bad for you, but it was so funny. It was so funny. It brought you joy. It did. It brought a smile to my face at that time. I woke up to just another day. I woke up trading around. Like, I think at this time, by the way, like, I thought I was, like, all that and a bag of chips. So, like, I'm, like, like.

Like I'm getting these texts and there was like there was someone leaking shit about you to the press at the time where you were living, where you were like. And we were like, who the fuck did that? And it was somebody that was like clearly in my life because it was accurate. It was accurate information. It was very strange. It was. I think I know who it was. We both think we know who it was. It wasn't me. And obviously. And I wake up to these texts. Snake emojis. Snake emojis.

What? The fuck are you sending me snake emojis for? Like, what are you talking about? I'm like ignoring them, ignoring them. Then I get a text that's like, Jake, it's okay. What's okay? What are you talking about? Our dear friend, Cammie, decided that she would Photoshop an article on, was it People Magazine? It was something like that. It was People Magazine. Jake Shane, Olivia Jade BFF spills all. What?

Was like, wait, I didn't do this. I didn't do this. And like, it was like, like, it was the craziest. Oh my God. It was, it was insane. And Olivia, like at some point got involved and she was like, it's okay. And I was like, no, I didn't do it. You know, there's a bit, there is a video of me. There's a video of me. There is a video of me. Library. I can't do this. I can't do this. I'm Googling the reporter's name. Like,

Our friend Cammie is really, really, really, really good at Photoshop. Like, amazing. She also is, like, a queen prankster. Like, she loves to prank people. Like, remember what she did with the dead pig?

Yes. Who did she give that to? There was something with a dead pig. She put it in her closet. No, she constantly gave a dead pig. She did not kill a pig, by the way. It was like her science experiment. She studied biology or something. I think she had to study a pig in class, and she brought it home and gave it to her sister for Christmas. And then also, you must remember this. I started getting calls all of a sudden, and it was voicemails screaming into my phone. Do you not remember this?

Screaming. Like, for a week straight. I thought I was getting human trafficked. Like, I thought something bad was happening. Turns out there was posters where we lived at the time posted everywhere around us, Chewbacca Roar Contest, please call this number. I don't remember that. You don't remember this? And it was my fucking number. And it was people calling, screaming into the phone. Who did that, Julia? Cammy! Oh, God.

And I was like, who the fuck did this? Like, I know it was one of you. And at the time we didn't know Cammy was such a prankster. After the People magazine prank. You guys like I know that was like when I knew you had really bad anxiety. I was like, somebody has to call this prank off. I was in. I was shaken. I was like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the truth is. Like, this is online. Yeah, it's online. Someone bamboozled me. Someone impersonated me like, who the fuck is this? Who did this? We now know who it was.

Period. We do. Yeah. So unfortunate. That was unfortunate. A prank for the ages. I think that was probably like the most anxious I've ever seen me and you. And I could feel it through a video. I wasn't even there. I just was getting sent videos from Gami. And I was like, I really think you have to tell him this is not real. It was just like, it was such a point of conversation. We were like, who is leaking that? Like, obviously it's none of us. Like,

Like, you know what I mean? Like, talking to the press in that way takes so much time and energy, and you have to, like, meet up. And, like, you know what I mean? It's like, who's actually doing this? And obviously, everyone thought it was me. I didn't ever actually think it was you. I know you did it. I know you did it. Just so you know. I know you did it. And it was... But I really didn't know who it was for so long. I honestly thought it was... Actually, fuck it. Yeah. Anyway. So you're a therapist about the fact that your kneecaps look weird. That's exactly...

I am. I'll tell you what I'm a therapist about. Okay. I went to... Okay, so I had three dentist appointments booked. I'm sorry to all the dentists that I canceled on. I obviously went to the worst one because it was the last one. It was my last chance to go to a dentist before I left for tour. And I walked into the dentist and...

I could tell something was wrong right away. Do you know the Palace, that restaurant? No. Okay, it was in a strip mall. And so I'm like, I'm walking up to the dentist. It's next to the dentist's office? Yeah. Okay. We'll cut that. And so I walked in and they could take me right away. Like there was no like, it was like I was supposed to come in at 3 and I walked in at 11 and they were like, so fine. And I was like, so that's wrong. That's wrong.

I sit down and I'm doing these x-rays after I sign these papers, whatever, I'm doing these x-rays. And then the dentist comes in and, um,

I've never seen... Okay, so, like, I've gone to a lot of... Not a lot, but I've been to the dentist. And they've said to me, like, I've been like, I want veneers. And they're like, they usually look out for you. They're like, I don't think you need that, you know? Like, you don't need that. You're not... Your teeth aren't hurt. Like, if you want to whiten them, you can whiten them. Like, you don't need that. Smile? Smile?

You have such cute teeth. They're little. I have like buck teeth. No, you don't. You have great teeth. You have great teeth too. No, my teeth are small and yellow according to this dentist. And he kept saying, bro, bro, bro. And like fucking like pounding his tools in my mouth. And I was like,

Oh, that sounded really wrong. But it was what was happening. And he was, like, pounding them. And he was like, bro, like, this doesn't upset you. Like, you don't want to bleach your teeth. This doesn't upset you. Now it does. And then I have an in-dead on one of my teeth. Like, I've just had it since I was a kid. And he was like...

asking me if he wants to fill it right on the spot, which was so sketchy. It's like going to a psychiatrist and having them be like prescribed. I'm shocked you said no. Really? Yeah. Why is that?

Because I feel like we're really similar in the way that like if somebody in the moment is telling us like, this is really good for you. You should do this. Like, because you don't want to upset that person. You're just like, okay. Yeah. Yes. But I hated him. Okay. And he was, he started, and my number one pet peeve was like, my mouth was, he kept saying, open your mouth, bro. Open your mouth. Why does he?

I don't know. And then he kept going into my mouth and talking to me and asking me questions while my mouth was open, which is like my number one pet peeve. Like, why are you asking me questions right now? I'm like mumbling answers. He's like, so like, what do you do? Uh, hug her? Like, that's what I said. I was like, what? And then, oh my God. And then what else did he do? It hurt. And then like, I kept, I kept like kicking my feet. Like, ow, ow.

Because he was like, oh, your nerves are exposed. Like, did you break your nose as a child? I was like, what? How does that have anything to do with my teeth? It was a really, really bad experience. I got home and was like...

Dentists can kick rocks. Like he was the, it was the worst dental experience I've ever had in my life. How did you find him? Like dentist near me? Yeah. Yes. That'll do it. I have a really great dentist if you need in the future. He's in the Valley. He's really good. Ooh. Okay. Really? Okay. I'm interested. Okay. I'm interested. Except my wisdom tooth recovery was like the worst thing in my whole life. But should we talk about it?

Um, yeah, we should. You were like, I can't work out this week. Um, I'm having a really bad reaction to my wisdom teeth. And I was like, you know what? She's probably being so dramatic. Like, as you can tell with the kneecap gate, like I was like, he's probably being so dramatic. No, no, no. He had a bad reaction. It was really bad. To these wisdom teeth situations. This is what I look like. Look.

Can you see? For like two weeks straight. And we kept saying like, it'll go down, it'll go down, it'll go down. What happened? You got a dry socket. It was the worst experience of my whole entire life. I don't know what happened. Basically anything that could have gone wrong. Went wrong. Went wrong. Like dry sockets. And everybody told me it's, it's a walk in the park. I told you it was hell.

Yeah. But everybody else, so easy. Like it was my best friend's birthday in New York that weekend. And I thought, perfect, I'll get the surgery on Tuesday and I'll be in New York partying on Saturday. No, no, no. Do people know how much of a good time you are? I don't know. They're like, yeah.

I like weirdly think I share so much of my life, but at the same time, nobody knows anything about me. Such a good description. I don't know why. She is the most fun time. Thanks, James. Like my favorite nights have been with you. Same. Like. With you as well. Because I get fucking twisted, bitch. Like I'm like, I'm like, oh my God. Like, especially like we just like go for it. Yeah. You have some. There was one. Oh, no.

I don't even know. I'm just going to tell the story. I don't even know if I want my parents to hear this. We were partying and like we were both like it was just a dark place. You make it sound like we're on like a fuck ton of drugs. No, we were just drunk. We were just drunk. And I, you know what? I'm not going to tell this story. How about that? I'm like, where is this going? It was the USC hotel.

Oh, speaking of human trafficking, I thought you were going to get human trafficked. I woke up and I was like, Olivia, I sucked dick in the hotel last night. And I'm like, with who and how? And I was like some 40 year old. And she was like, when did you have time to do that? We were together all night. I'm like, this was very my M.O.,

Back in the day, like I would pull some shit like that. And she was like, you cannot do this anymore. I felt like a mom. I was like, never again. That's how you die. And I almost did die. Speaking of songs, not that we were talking about songs, but for those, because I just cut out the story that I just told. But it led us to talk about music. What are you listening to right now, Liv?

I really like I'm addicted to Post Malone's album. It's sick. I think I've listened to it on. I need to see him. I need to see him. Is he was he at Stagecoach last year? He was. And I did see him live then. But and I really liked Post Malone. But I don't think I was as hooked as I am in this current moment. Yeah. You you put me on to a lot of music. I love you have a pretty. But I like old music. Yeah. I was about to say, you know, you know, that's all I do.

You have, you listen to a lot of oldies. A lot of oldies. I like old music.

Like, whenever we're in the car, like, it's always... 70s. 70s. I know. 70s, 70s, 70s. Or Taylor Swift if you're in my car. Yeah, if I'm... That's because I'm doing it for you. Yeah, putting it on. Although I do like Taylor Swift. Sometimes I'll walk in and I'll look at her and be like, thank you. I got a new car. Shut up. It's outside. Wait, what? It's a Defender. Let's fucking go. It's really cool. I told her, you got to get the Defender. It will look so good with you. I'm so excited for you to see it. I'm excited. I have to pick you up for a workout. Uh-huh. Oh, I'm so excited. It's really cute.

Anyway, what were we talking about before? Wisdom teeth? Wisdom teeth and how your experience was just god-awful. Oh, yeah. So I thought I would be in New York partying on Saturday. Right. That's where we left off because I was... And I wasn't. It was the worst experience of my whole life. Basically, the dentist said that if... Like, he had seen this once in his, like, 30 years of doing this. And I was like, oh, perfect. So let's say it's a Tuesday. I have my surgery. I'm like...

I think I know what happened, actually. I remember my mom was watching me and she gave me yogurt. And I think it was the yogurt with the little strawberry. Yes, it was. It was. It was. And I swallowed it. And I remember feeling like the strawberry went on my back left tooth. And I told her, I'm like, but I'm on so many drugs that.

You know, I was like, I think it went back there. I don't really know. My mom's like, okay, well, hope for the best. I also got a gum graft at the same time, which is... What's a gum graft? Crazy. It's when you have gum recession and they pull apart of your gum. Like, it's a whole nother surgery. But I decided since I was going under, like, do two at once. And, you know, two birds, one stone. And it was not enough. So stupid. So stupid. Does it still hurt? Are your nerves still exposed? No, no, no. I'm fine now. But anyway...

Tuesday, I got the surgery, ate the strawberry, went in the wrong part of my mouth. Then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I woke up and the left side of my face just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And it wasn't good. So then on Saturday, I called the dentist. I'm like, can you please meet me in the office? I think it's an emergency. We go in. I'm in excruciating pain. By that, all the pain meds have run out.

I called more in. I was on so many painkillers. I was, but it like didn't even feel like anything. Like, yeah. Cause it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. I think that it just did its job. Like some of the pain away. Anyway, I go in and they're like, okay, well you're going to have to come in for another surgery on Monday with a different doctor. So then they knock me out again on Monday, like six days after I had my last surgery. I'm like, great. So they knock me back out.

This man knocks me out with ketamine because... Yeah, because I had an infection. So my left side of my face was infected. And when you're like, I guess when you have an infection, it's really hard to knock you back out. Wait. With whatever they did the first time. Anesthesia? Yeah. Wait. Anesthesia? Yeah. Not her. Does she exist? I think it's anesthesia. What is it? Anesthesia. Continue. Anyway, um...

Yeah. So then I went back into surgery on that Monday with a lot of ketamine. And this was like a way darker experience for me waking up. Like the first time I got knocked out and woke up, I was like laughing. Everything was great. Everything was funny. Best day of my life. This day I was like crying at everything. I thought my mom was going to like.

Call someone? Just drop me off and leave me for dead at that point. Because you were crying so hard. I was being so annoying. Were you with Bella? No, my mom. She took care of me. She slept on my couch every night. Even though I kept trying to get her to sleep in bed with me, but she didn't want to because I think I was up so much, like, complaining. And you couldn't brush your teeth, huh? No. Well, then I got a... I'm like, that's another phobia I have. That is the one thing. For some reason, you must have said this. I think you said this in an old vlog or something. You were like, when I wake up in the morning, I...

To brush my teeth. And you can't when you get your wisdom teeth out. You can do like the front too. Yeah, so that was a really big problem for me because I just like that taste you have in the morning. It's like, it's so bad. It's so bad. We are so similar but so different. I didn't brush my teeth until right before you came today and I've been up since 8 a.m. I just can't even fathom how that's possible. I was just like, I can't. I was like, I fucking can't. Like sometimes I'm just like right before I go to bed too, I'm like...

Before bed is harder and it doesn't like I always make sure I brush my teeth but like sometimes before bed I'm like I really don't want to brush my teeth like in the morning I'm like excited I'm like let's go. Really? I just can't get out of bed. Do you floss? No because I have permanent retainers in the backs of my teeth so I like when I try and floss it just gets stuck. What is it to close a gap?

I don't know. When I got my braces off when I was 13, they put these in and I've literally never gone back to the same dentist. So they've just stayed there. I kind of want a permanent routine. Well, this bro dentist was telling me that I needed braces. And I was like, I don't want that actually at all. I think that you need to not go back to him. No. Oh, no. How old was he? Like my age. Oh, that's a problem. Like it was the whole thing was a fucking problem. Well, I guess it's not a problem. What's that? Tell me what's wrong. Yeah.

Wait, are these submitted from others? Yes, yes. Wait, so can I just say something? I saw your life before your eyes. You were like, what the fuck is that? What the fuck is in there? No, just tell me what's wrong. So one of my favorite things in the world is giving advice. Yeah, you're very good at it. I love to give advice. I don't know. You're Virgo. No. Libra? I'm a Libra. I'm over this. Two of my closest friends always make out when... What? Two of my close...

Two of my closest friends always make out when we're at the bar but refuse to talk about their situationship and it can be very awkward when it's just them. Do I get involved or let them figure their own shit out? Let them figure their... Ew, it sounds like you have a crush on one of them. I'm so mean. Stop. But that is what it sounds like. That is what it sounds like. Doesn't that... Isn't that what it sounds like? It sounds like that maybe...

I thought it was going to be even more mean than what you said. So I think that you should just let them figure it out. Figure it out. But yeah, I think like let them figure it out. It's giving like if you try to get involved, it's giving desperate. It's giving like drama starter. It's also giving like none of your business. Yeah. It's like does it really affect you that much? Yeah. Also, maybe they like it like that. Yeah. It's like it's not like it's your situationship. If it was your situationship, it's another story. Yeah, 100%.

I think also part of them is like, they're like, my friend group's now getting fucked up. Oh. Because they're saying like, we're in the same friend group and they're all hooking up. So it's giving like, they hate change, which is valid, but you can't do anything about that.

Because when something's changing and you're like going out of your way to like try to stop it, it's just giving desperate. Like you can't stop change. No, it's inevitable. It's inevitable. My grandma used to always tell me the one thing we can count on is change. That makes me sick. Really wise. That makes me sick. I know. I hate change. Me too. And it happened to me the other day and it made me sick. Change? I forget what happened, but it was just like not my vibe. I know. Like it was like...

I was like, I don't like this. I'm not like, I don't love this. I get it. I've gone through a lot of change. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird. Yeah. That's fuck. I watched my boyfriend fart on his hand, smell it, and then continue to scratch his ass. He doesn't know this and I haven't been the same since. Like we haven't been dating that long. Is that a deal breaker? No. Like no. Oh, yes. Fart on his hand and then smell it.

And he didn't think anybody was watching. I mean, that's pretty weird. I don't want to be a deal breaker for me. Yes. If you saw someone, you'd be like, get out. Yeah. I mean, I'd be like, are you five? Why are you doing that? Okay. I understand. I don't think it's a deal breaker, but I do think you should say something. Say something. Be like, I saw you fart on your hand. Smell it. Scratch your ass. Like I saw, I saw it happen. I saw you do that. But that's like so mortifying. And then what? He's going to be like, okay.

Oh, God, I actually don't know what you would do in that situation. Ew, that's disgusting. It is disgusting, but, like, I'm so desperate for love that I would just be like, it's fine, whatever. It's fine. Just act like it never happened. Like, when I get a boyfriend, if said boyfriend is toxic, I'm going to be the worst. I'm just going to be like, well, yeah, yeah, I got to stay. I'm nervous about that. Yeah, everyone is.

This one, like, Nolan, sometimes you come so correct. Like, you always come correct, but, like, Olivia, this is so perfect for you. Okay. The guy I'm seeing doesn't brush his teeth in the morning. Sorry. Like, you can't even make coincidences like that up. No. No, but it's your fear. Like, not even when we have sleepovers. He said he never brushes his teeth in the morning, only at night, and he said that's normal. I'll, like, let you take the reins on this. I mean, I feel like...

That's not normal. I mean, I know that you think that that's not normal. I feel like if you go to a dentist, they'll tell you to brush two to three times a day. Yeah. In another life, you were a dentist. I don't know who's telling this man that that's what you do. It's just one time at night. Also, his teeth probably smell ten times worse in the morning if he doesn't brush them at night. No, he does brush them at night. Oh, he doesn't brush them in the morning. Yeah. So then how do you kiss in the morning? Like, if I was kissing someone in the morning, best believe I'd wake up and brush my teeth.

Yeah, I and then like also when you just like I feel like then you're just putting stuff on top of it like coffee or whatever you drink and eat and it's just kind of gross. That's what I did today. It was disgusting. It doesn't feel good, right? No, it feels like you're dirty and feeling that way every day must be hell. I wonder why maybe you should ask him.

What's up with that? Maybe just be like, I can't continue having sleepovers with you or seeing you in the... Ew. Ew. He doesn't brush his teeth in the morning. Maybe you can make it cute and fun. Like, babe, let's brush our teeth. Yeah. Like the scene in Clueless. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it could be like a fun... Ooh. Hello. Do you like this couch, by the way? Yeah, it's nice. Are you comfy? Yeah, I'm very comfy. Okay, what era vibe does this... Like, what year vibe does this give you?

Like was this designed to be a certain year? I think it's kind of 70. Yeah. And I didn't tell her before it is 70s and last last season was 60s. Yeah, it is. I really like it. I grew up in a super strict household, but just moved to New York by myself. I'm like so ready to not abide by those stupid rules anymore. But it's also so hard to stop doing the things that I've been doing my whole life. How do I balance a New York moment while staying true to myself?

That's a good question. You're kind of finding yourself, which is scary. Like you don't know what staying true to yourself means because you don't even know yourself yet. But then I think you hit this point where, well, first of all, I would say like getting into a routine is a really good. Right. Sounds so I'm so boring, but that is kind of true. Like it sounds boring, but it's nice to have a routine. It is. That brings in stability, especially when you're alone.

I know that can be kind of scary. I hate being alone. I know. I do too. And then I hit a point where I was like, wait, I think I love this. Yeah, you are good at being alone. I really like it now. I know. And people always comment on my YouTube videos like, do you like being alone that much? I'm like, no.

I'm like, oh, I choose to be alone. You do. You do choose to be alone. I know. Olivia's like a grandma. Like, I ran into her at the farmer's market the other day, and she had, like, a fucking roller wrap. Like, what was it? What did you have? Like, a wagon wheel? Like, something. I was like, what is that? She's like, it's my farmer's market bag. I'm so pumped about it. I was like, oh, okay. Embarrassing. And I was, like, hungover, like, barely seeing the light. What were we even talking about for that? Finding yourself.

Oh. Because she grew up in a strict household. But I was about to say, I remember, like, my first night of college, like, I went to go do something. I went to go to bed because I was so used to going to bed at, like, 1 a.m. because my mom wanted me home at 1 a.m. And then my friend was like, do you want to come and do face masks in my room? And I was like, what? And then, like, you know, it's just stuff like that. Like, you do, like, it is kind of this, like, abrupt change to adulthood when you turn 18. Like, regardless of where you are, like...

That is the legal age that you're an adult. So, like, you... Things... It is... It becomes automatically different. And, like, between 18 and I would say 22, you, like, really find yourself. Yeah, for sure. I also think that, like...

It's okay if you, to this person's question, if you go off track a little bit, you don't need to beat yourself up about it. If you do something that maybe wasn't accepted in the household you grew up in, that's okay. You're not in that house anymore. You're making a life for yourself now and there are going to be changes and things will be different. I think just like if it makes you feel good, stick with it. If it's something that makes you feel bad because it genuinely makes you feel bad, then maybe you can...

put that whatever it is to rest. But, but I think it's also like, I think they're like, it's scary. Cause it's like, you don't want to have to build your own house. So like, you're like relying back on these like rules that you grew up with or whatever, because you're like, this is, you don't want to that moment where you're like, my life is mine to figure out and not my parents, not anyone else's. Like, it's such a scary moment. And like,

Like, like, like it's just, it's the worst. And like avoiding it as long as possible, like is like, I understand, but like, don't, I wouldn't worry about like staying true to yourself. Like I'd worry about, yeah. Like you said, doing what makes you feel happy and not doing what makes you feel bad. Like I'm not thinking about it in terms of like how you grew up because that like you're the rules your parents had. Like they were just how they wanted to prep you for this very moment. Moms and dads. It's they'll never stop. Never. Never.

But yeah, and you know what? And I said I would just do one big prescription at the end of the episode, but I would like to. This is my first of the season. I would like to prescribe girls on HBO. Have you ever seen girls? No. What are you talking about right now? What's going on? Are you kidding? No. Is this a show? Am I going to get canceled? No. No. You're not. No. No. It's the greatest show of all time. And you would love it.

Lena Dunham made it. You know who Lena Dunham is? Yes, she's amazing. It's the best show I've ever seen in my life. You would really love it. You would really, really love it. Okay. I'm telling you, you would love it. So do I watch that or Housewives first? Damn. You got me. Girls. Girls, I think because you're in your scripted era. Like you're watching like these like Paul Thomas Anderson movies. Like you're watching stuff with scripts. So like girls on HBO. Ooh, have you ever seen Chinatown?

Weirdly? Yes. So good. It's Chinatown. So. I wrote a paper on it. Oh, really? Can I read that? I wrote a paper. I'd like to read that. You're such a good writer. Olivia. No, it's true. You really are. Thank you. You're welcome. Must be why everyone thought I was the reporter. Yeah. The journalist. The journalist.

Thank you. But I wrote a paper on it in high school. Yeah, it was a good movie. Those types of movies, like when you learn about them, you're just like, oh, I can't. Like what? Like all the deeper meanings. Like this is my problem with movies is I want to love old movies so badly. My ADHD because of TikTok is so. Yeah. I need to watch something that I can simultaneously be on my phone. And for that, for me, that is Housewives. But I think.

that's so good that you know that because then you can start maybe you don't want to but I think that it's so important that like we exercise our brains and by exercise I literally mean watch a movie which I guess is not really exercising your brain but in our generation I feel like because so many people are on their phone and watching this and doing that like

Like, I think we're frying our brains. Do you take, like, a lot more time off your phone than you used to? Oh, my gosh. I'm so conscious of it now. And not even, like, I'm great at it because I think that – I think it's, like, actually coded to be really addictive. Addictive, yeah. Yeah. So I think that, like, to say –

It doesn't get me. It would be like a total lie. But I feel like I try and be more aware of it because when I'm on it too much, I notice for myself personally, I just get like really low. So I've had to like stop doing that just because I'm like,

Why do I feel so low? And then once I delete the apps and I'll take like a month or two off and just like redownload it if I have to do a sponsorship or something or like if I want to film something. I also think you're you've gotten so good about and what I'm so proud of you about is like putting stuff out and then not not reading and just putting it out and letting it live. Yeah. And just being like this is like for those who want to see it, see it.

Meanwhile, Jake's at Coachella partying his ass off like, I'm trending on Twitter. What's going on? Do you remember that? Get off your phone. And I was like, I'm scared. I'm scared. You were like. You're at Coachella. You were like, girl. Girl. Come on.

What was that about? It was, I was right behind Taylor Swift. Oh, it was so funny. Yeah, and I knew it in the moment. I was like, I look like Joe from You. Like, I look like Joe from You. Like, it was just like crazy. Like, I was like, what's happening? Like, how am I in? Because we were in a closed off, you know how Coachella works. Like, there's the general mission, artist section, artist of the artist section. Right. And I was in the artist of the artist section. Yeah. And...

And it was, yeah, it was something else. It was something else. But you were scared about that on Twitter. I remember. Did I text you about that? I was there. Oh my God, you were there! I was at your face, like, put your phone away. Yeah, you were. You were like, put it away. Yeah. And I remember being like, I remember being like, no, but it's, it's, and you were like, it's what? You were like...

Just enjoy the night. It's okay. And we had a great dinner the next day. Oh, the best dinner ever. That was the, we had, you know, when you have like a historic dinner. That was a historic dinner. We were ordering. For the books. And then I said, okay, we got to get up.

You care if I say this? Went outside. I was like, let's hit the weed pen. We hit the weed pen to prepare for the next course. Just to keep eating. Sat back down. Finished. I was like, okay, we got one more time for dessert. Sat back down. Hit the weed pen. Sat back down. The festival was fully going on. Fully. I don't think you went to the festival. I didn't. Nope. You didn't. I didn't go that year. I honestly have been doing that a lot.

With these festivals. Yeah, but you love the desert. I do. I love Palm Springs. I love being around everybody when they're not at the festival, like pre and post. Uh-huh.

Pre mostly. Yeah. Not post. If you're like sober and everybody's like leaving the festival, it's a little weird to like meet back up. Except that night I did meet up with you guys. Cause I don't get fucked up at those festivals. No, I don't either. I honestly don't like them enough to, it's just to do that. Like I used to in high school, like I would go to governor's ball in New York and I would get like, I would sneak alcohol in. There would be like this resealable bottle and you would pour vodka in it, tequila or whatever. And, um,

I would get really fucked up. But then like Coachella is just not the place. It's not the place to get fucked up. So hot. It's so hot. It's so not a real music festival. Like it's not a real event. It's an event. It's like and it's become not it's not a music festival like that.

It's just like it's Coachella. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're not like you're going there and you're taking photos and then you're seeing a few like you're not seeing like at a real and through and through music festival, you're seeing like five to six artists a day like.

Yeah, no, I know. It's not. I think actually at Stagecoach, I saw one artist and it was Post Malone. Was it? I want it. Stagecoach is like really, really. You should come next year. I'm going to. I'm going to. We all talk about it. You can stay with me. It's really fun. That'd be really fun. I think we should all go. Alice would go. Julia would go. Brett would go. We'll all be in the same place. No, but we should all go. Yeah, that would be really fun. Like we should all do. Alice did Stagecoach this year. She said it was amazing. I love it. Like, let's do it. I love. It's really fun. I love.

Coachella, but I think I would have more fun dressing up for stagecoach. It's really, really fun. You would look really sexy in a cowboy hat. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I thought I looked really sexy in my like try – my Coachella fit for this year was like I'm going to look like I'm like –

You remember, like, the year, like, Hailey and everyone wore, like, leather jackets? Yeah. Like, that was, like, my inspo. I was like, well, they're just, like, going because they, like, have to. Yeah. And, like, that was, like... Like jeans. Yeah, like, that was my inspo. And then every... It just, like, didn't... It didn't translate...

Things don't translate when they are not authentic to you. It's so true. I try so hard. I'm a try hard. I try hard. I'm, I'm desperate. I, I look for, I, I try really, really, really hard. And for me to have these outfits that I was trying to look like I didn't give a fuck when I obviously did.

That's all that's on his mind. They didn't translate. It didn't work. I thought you looked really good this Coachella. Thank you. Me too. But it wasn't a Coachella outfit. Right. And like anyone else could have rocked it and it would have been like, oh, they don't give a fuck. But like I give a fuck notoriously. So like I like couldn't wear it. You know what I mean? I think only you notice that. But I get what you're saying.

No, there was like a few comments that were like, did he go to Coachella or where is he? What do you do if your platonic guy best friend is turning into an asshole and it's starting to make you want to make out with him sometimes? Dot dot dot question mark. I've never felt this way about him before and it feels strange.

Well, is he being an asshole to you or to others? I think it's, I think it's to them. So maybe he likes her. Yeah. Or maybe is that what like kindergartners do? What do adults do? That. Yeah. That's like, well, that's how I flirt. I'm like, ew. Like, you know, like I am the worst flirt in, oh, I mean, I am the worst flirt in history, but this guy, I think he's flirting with her.

I think he's flirting with her, too. And I think... I think she should give it back to him. I think you should make out with him. Yeah, I think you should make out with him and then beat him at his own game by, like, being like, it wasn't that serious. Yeah, but also that's, like, so toxic because maybe you should assess if he's... If this is, like, cutesy mean or if he's, like, actually being a jerk because then maybe you should just, like... What's the difference? I think, like...

Like teasing you, kind of being playful, kind of cute, kind of sexy. Not mad about it. I would never be angry. If he's just being like a jerk, like you look ugly or like don't wear that. Like maybe, maybe you should. Peace. Peace. I would be like, thank you. Thank you for talking to me. Jake. I'm dead serious. Like we've known each other for like seven years at this point. And there has never not once been.

Any anybody that I've been like seeing ever. But I've known you for a very, very long time. I think that. Yeah, I actually really want to set you up with somebody who I just don't know. I really do want to set you up, though. And when I find somebody that I think is worth your time, I'm going to pack them in my suitcase and bring them back to L.A. because I don't think we're going to find them in L.A. We are absolutely not. I think we've tried. I think I'm the same person you met six, seven years ago. No.

But yes. In what sense? I've always said this about you. And it's like such a joy that people that don't know you get to see it now. Cause like, I always see people like this guy, like just like adore you. Like people online love you. And they're always like, you're my comfort person. Like he makes me laugh. He makes me feel good. And this is how I'd always describe you to people. Like even to like my sister and her friends before I introduced you to everybody in school. Like I was like, no, he'll just make you feel good. He's like really funny. He's really sweet. Like really genuine. I think all of that has stayed the exact same.

And for those who don't know, okay, I had a really hard time socially. Remember how I had a really hard time socially at school? And you really helped me out. You really helped me out. You would be like, I'm not going unless he can come. Yeah, that was so fun. Like all the frat stuff because they were so mean. They were mean. They wouldn't let – for those who don't know, when you go like to like a fratty place, like they don't let guys in that aren't in the house. Right.

And obviously like Olivia is a gorgeous girl. Like she was strutting her way in and she would be like, I'm not going if Jake can't come. And guess what? And they let me in right away. I will never forget that. Yeah. We had so much fun though. We had a time, but I think you're different too. Like I think that,

You've like grown into yourself a lot more. I feel like you're much more sure of who you are. Like if somebody I feel like mistreats you or something, you're probably not going to like keep them around now. Like you have so many great people around you. And I feel like you're so much more comfortable in like who you are that you're not really going to take as much shit as you probably would have seven years ago. Do you remember how much shit I used to take? So much shit. People were so...

Yeah, they were mean. People weren't the nicest, but I took it. Which I get because I feel like when you're young and also you moved across the country to a place where like you didn't really know that many people. You were the first person I met. In the stairwell, right? No, no, no. No, in... Bed Bath & Beyond. Bed Bath & Beyond. I was with Alice, you were with Bella. Yeah. And I was so starstruck, you guys. I was so... And I was like, is this what USC is going to be like? It was. And I was like...

And you were so nice. And then who knew? Yeah, because I knew the person Jake was with, Alice. I'm sure everybody knows Alice. Yes, everyone loves and knows. She's the best. But yeah, the rest is history. But I feel like you're very similar to how you were. Yeah, I would say I'm just as transparent. And I feel like your actual heart and the qualities, those haven't changed. You're still very, very sweet and sensitive. But...

Anxious as fuck. Yeah. Anxious as fuck. And that has never changed. It will never ever change. Oh, that was really nice, Olivia. I mean it. Seeing you grow too has been beautiful. Am I very different? I feel like I'm so different. You're different, but you're the same. Really? You're like...

You are more like you're more reserved. Like you protect your peace a little more, way more. Like you're very careful about who is around you. Yeah. Whereas like you used to be surrounded by like a million and one people. Yeah. Like you know what I mean? Like we used to have to be like we don't – they're not being the best. Yeah. But like now like you're like you protect your peace. You have a small circle like you protect your peace. You do. Peace protector. Protector. Yeah.

I'm currently talking to a guy that I've dated before and the first time we dated, we ended because it felt like a friendship. We started again and I still feel the same. What do I do? P.S. I like his best friend and I think he might have a thing for me too. Oh no. First of all, I think if you tried it once and then tried it again and it's still not working, it might just not be your person and that's totally fine. But if you spend more time with this person, then you're kind of blocking off...

Maybe opportunities for somebody that isn't a friend vibe for you. So you should definitely leave that situation in my opinion. Well, if you're giving it a second chance and it's the same as the first time. It's probably not going to change. But it is. It must be comfortable. And then in terms of the friend vibe.

I think that's messy. I think that situation is kind of messy. I would definitely give it time. Like, I would end it with this guy, maybe be single for a little, maybe go on some dates, meet some other people that aren't in the group, and if you keep leading back to this one friend, maybe with enough time, it won't be weird, and everybody can be mature, and it can work out. Right. But I wouldn't just, like, homie hop. Right. It's probably not the right... I would. But, like, I think Olivia is correct. And, like, also, like, sexual tension is...

Seriously? Incredible. Like, there is, I don't think there is a better feeling in the entire world than sexual tension. It's the best feeling in the entire world. It really, like, just, like, enjoy the sexual tension while you can. And then, like, the longer, the longer, like, that first kiss, like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, it's just going to be amazing.

This guy that I had a situation ship with told me I was a bad kisser to almost the whole school and referred to me as a stone wall. What should I do? How can I clear the allegations? Be unbothered.

I would say nothing. I would go about your pretty little life with your pretty little face and your cute little outfit and never turn back. I would not even give that person the time of day. What a dick. So if he is telling the whole school you're a bad kisser, you just stay silent, eventually the narrative will shift to he's a fucking asshole.

You know what I mean? 100%. And he should have never said that. And I hope most people are already thinking of him as a fucking asshole. Yeah. And even if you're in, it sounds like you're in high school or college and like people fucking grow up. And nobody also probably is thinking about it as much as you are. Like if I heard somebody say that, I would think of it and move on with my life. You know what I mean? Like I would not be like. You're better than me. That's like my number one fear. That's why I'm like scared of like kissing people and having like sexual interactions because I get so scared that like I do a bad job or like I'm a bad kisser and like people will find out.

No, because I think also sometimes, like, if you feel like you're a bad kisser, like, maybe it just wasn't the right, like, maybe it was just a little awkward between both people. And then it's not really, like, somebody's fault. Because I feel like when you have really good chemistry with somebody, like, it's so hard to have a bad hookup then. You know what I mean? It's very true. It's like, I completely know what you mean. Because it's like, it's just, you're both feeling it. Yeah, you're feeling it. Sexual tension. Yes. I love podcasting with you. I love podcasting with you. This is my first podcast.

And probably last because nothing will ever live up to this. Oh, no. But you are welcome back on this couch anytime. Thanks. Anytime. I love you're so good in front of the camera. You always have been. Oh, thanks. You always have been. I feel so like it's actually so funny because I called my sister yesterday and I was like, I'm kind of nervous. Like I haven't done anything because like anything I put out, obviously, I get to watch and edit so many times that I'm

I'll have a video that's like 30 minutes long and I'll rewatch it and I'm like way too much of my personality came out. Like I'm going to delete half of it, which I never used to do. I think you're a lot harsher on your, which makes me sad. That's okay. I think sometimes it's kind of healthy though. Cause like sometimes like maybe people don't need to hear everything I have to say. I'm like, that's okay. I totally get that. But I think sometimes you're a little too harsh on yourself.

But I think I'd rather, maybe this is bad. It's a defense mechanism. Yeah, I'd rather just be harsh on myself and like not regret putting something out there. Yeah. I think also that happens. Like I know that publicly a lot has gone on where that would cause me to like retract. But I also think that that comes with age. Yeah. Like I was 14 when I started my YouTube channel. So, and I turned 25 next week. So there's like...

Oh, it's about to be your birthday. Yeah. What are we doing for your birthday? I'm going to be in Italy. Oh, okay. So not me. But I really want to celebrate with everybody when, like I want to do like a really fun night out. You know I'm there. You know who else is there? Peyton. Yeah. Oh, love her. Them two together. It's like. We had some good times. Halloween this year. We had fun. Oh, this past year. Yeah. I thought you meant this upcoming Halloween. Oh, I'm gone. You're on tour. Yeah.

I honestly think I might leave too. I might go to New York. I mean, LA just like isn't doing it for me the way it used to. I'm either going out of the country or to New York. I just haven't decided yet. Well...

That's nice. TBD. TBD. It's not like it sounds nice, but it's really just me like running away from LA and parties. I know. Well, LA just like isn't, it really isn't what it used to be. It's not, but I'm glad we did experience it when it was. You got more of it. I got like the tail end of it.

I feel like when you first moved here your first year we kind of got like the saddle when I that was that was Saddle Ranch before Saddle Ranch Saddle Ranch before Saddle Ranch was golden and I wish more people could experience it before it became a thing and then now it's just dead speaking of you looking out for me I almost got kicked out that night of Saddle Ranch were you too drunk? I was blacked out hammered wasted I was so excited to be like out with like all your cool friends and like

Like Olivia like knows everyone. And like she was just, she's so inclusive and welcoming. So like I was like coming across the country and like, like I had not seen any of this life before. And like you like brought me out with you and it was just the coolest thing ever. And like Saddle Ranch was one of those nights. Delilah nights. I never got to do a Delilah night with you. And I was always really jealous about it.

Oh, well, we can still go. We can still. But Delilah isn't the same. No, it's not. But if we bring the right crowd, we'll make it like. OK, yeah. A good night. But Saddle Ranch, it was I blacked out really bad and I was on the bull and I was like falling off and they were like, you need to leave.

I said, give me a second, please. And I said, Olivia. And like, you just have a way with bouncers. Like, you just have a way with bouncers. And you were like, you cannot kick him out. Listen. Listen, you cannot. He's my friend. You can't kick him out. And I stayed. Remember that punching machine in there? I have a video of you going like this. Yeah, it was probably pretty low. But I remember like the people we, that I like went to Saddle Ranch with, like a bunch of these boys. Like,

12 years old like their life depended on having the highest score on this punching machine. I couldn't believe it. It was so fun. It was so fun. That was a great night. I'll never forget that night. I remember what we did before we went to Whole Foods before we got pizza. No, I'm telling you it was the best night of my life. I think I have memory loss. You definitely do.

It was fun. Oh, that was a fun night. It was a fun night. Good fucking times. Good fucking times. Anyway, we'll do it again soon. We will. Run it back. Wait, we will absolutely run it back. We were trying to tell our trainer the other day like, well, I'm still crazy. But like, if you know Olivia now, like you wouldn't think like you were wild. And we were trying to explain to him like, no, we like we got down. Like we got fucking down. Do you remember your 20th birthday party? How drunk I got?

2020. Was that at Jack's old house? Yeah. I woke up and didn't know what to do with myself. I woke up in eight years.

So much food that day that like I remember I like put myself into like a worse hangover coma because and I have like such a Such a good like clear memory of that. It was that Fred's pasta from Morrow's which one the vodka sauce one Okay, but I got like a serving for like an order for myself and then who I was with and then the person I was with didn't eat there So I ate there's two and I remember just being like this is the worst day of my life because I felt so ill You like taught me how to have a good hangover

That's so weird that you say that because if I'm hungover, like everybody clear the way. No, I know. Exit. I know, but you taught me how to have a good one. You were like, you can't do this. You can't do this. You can't. I didn't know anything coming to LA at 18. I probably just was like, we got to get good food. Yeah. I feel like I probably...

I feel like that was a defining point in our friendship too. It's like us ordering, cause we couldn't really leave campus. Judy's. So we'd order Judy's. And then I remember like when. And I was like, this exists. And you were like, it's amazing. And then when I was no longer there, you were like, I'm still ordering. You were like, Hey Jake, I don't. Okay. Have fun. Well, Liv, what did we learn today? That podcasts are kind of fun. Yeah.

That makes me so happy. I had a really nice time. You had fun? You had a nice time? I feel like I just like hanging out with you. Okay. Well, yeah. This just felt like us hanging out with some cameras. Right. Three of them. Yeah. And a big ass TV. And lighting. And this thing is so fabulous. Oh, Patrick. I love Patrick. You love Patrick? Where did you get these? Joe Jonas gave that one to me. Something I never thought I would say six years ago.

If you guys knew Jake six years ago, you would be mind fucked as to where he is now. But like it's so expected and it's so perfect. But like he was just like, and I mean, you still are, which is what I think makes you like so epic at this job is like you were just such a fangirl at like anything. It could be something so small and like simple. I'm trying to think there was always moments where I would be like, oh!

Like everything I was just like. Yeah. So it's just hysterical like Ed Sheeran on your couch. I know. What is going on? I love it. I think what I learned today was.

It's nice to have people around you that have known you for a very long time. Yeah. Because they, like, know why you act a certain way sometimes. Yeah. Even if you don't know, they'll be like, well, it's because... It's, like, so nice to have friendships like that, too, because it's so rare, I feel like, as you get into adulthood to, like, have friends from, like, when you're a kid, basically. Like, those are, like, my strongest friendships in the world are people I've known for, like, five plus years because you just have, like, this different level of comfort, which is...

So nice. You do. You do have a lot of friends from childhood. It's basically like all I have. Okay, well that sounded horrible. Olivia, thanks for coming to Therapus. Thanks for having me. This was great. This was really fun. I'm sorry if you get some comments like, why her? Oh, see, you used to never say that about yourself. But here we are. Here we are. Who cares? It's light. It's funny. It's funny. It's all day in a circle.

No, it's all good. I'm just warning you. If you do just, you don't need to warn me. I love you. Okay. I love you too. And I'm so happy you're here. Thanks. Love you. That was so sentimental. It wasn't really meant to be that deep. I swear I'm okay. No, but you know, thanks. Um, I love you. Love you more. Thanks for having me. This was great before we leave. So this season, I don't know if you know, but last season I would prescribe after every tell me what's wrong.

a remedy of sorts. And I would often find myself repeating the same things over and over again. So we're just going to do one overarching prescription per person for the episode. So my prescription is I burp a lot. Have you noticed that this episode I like burping? No, I haven't. Maybe it's the sparkling Celsius. Do you want a sip of my Celsius? I'd love a sip of your Celsius.

It's good, right? The orange. I like the orange. I just got that one. I usually hate orange and I actually don't mind this. I like orange. Like when I was a kid, if there was like a popsicle flavor, orange. Oh, speaking of when you were a kid, wait, two things. Okay. Actually, no one knows this. The sugar fish drama. Remember how I freaked out about sugar fish not giving me white rice?

I know they give you white rice. No, wait. They used to. No, Jake. Wait. No, no. No, they haven't. And I will never forget this. I was like 17. It was before I started eating sushi. Okay. 17 is a bit old. I was maybe like 15 or 16. And I went to Sugarfish in Beverly Hills and I said, can I please get a bowl of white rice? And they said, you're not 12.

And I was like, excuse me? They were like, we don't do that unless you're a child. So no, I actually didn't. And it scarred me and I've never gone back. So my entire sugar fish beef has become unfounded or ungrounded. It was all based on the fact that I thought they gave you white rice. Stop. Stop.

didn't and i was like they don't discriminate they give nobody white rice okay unless you're a child but what you do at some japanese restaurants is my favorite thing so i don't do this anymore but before i ate sushi i would get white rice six sheets of nori and some sort of like beef steak yeah you would get steak and she would put it all together and i make my own roll no it was fucking so good insane it's so good i wish they like made that roll

But it's almost more fun to make yourself. Yeah, true. Okay, so I prescribe Girls on HBO. Again. To you, too. We're going to have both parts in. I just need... Like, I need everyone this season, any new watchers who haven't watched it, like, come to me after you've watched it. Like, the show changes lives. Olivia, like, it... Yes. Oh, I thought you were about to be like, stop. Okay. I really prescribe it every episode. Like, it... The show...

shows you that it's okay to be so flawed okay and it shows you like it's okay like you're not the only one who is like as flawed as you think you are like it is the and they do it with like comedy and drama and tears and it's like the greatest show i've ever seen in my life okay i prescribe everybody to get a dog you know what i know that's a great prescription that changed your life

It's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I was thinking about this yesterday on my walk. I was walking my dogs and I was like, damn, this is just the best. Like, I love these things so much. And then I was thinking about before I had them and I was like, yeah, life is cool. But now I feel like my heart bursts. Like every morning my dog barks.

Is basically on top of my face. And it's the cutest thing in the whole entire world. Like his little head. And his ears go back. And it's perfection. And I just think if you're having a hard time in life. A dog will fix it. Or it will make it ten times more stressful. Depending on your situation. But you won't think about.

but like things that unconditional love. It's unconditional love. It's, I really want a dog, but everyone says that I wouldn't be able to take care of them. It's a lot of work. I feel like though. Okay. So I understand that most people do work a nine to five and that would be tough because they need to be let out. And especially when they're a puppy. So I could see where that would be a problem. Um,

Maybe you could ask your workplace if you could bring your dog and then it would like I'd love to bring if I worked in an office. Yeah, people do these days. He would just sit at my feet. He would be so chill. I think you've had Milo since what COVID? Yeah, I fostered him like literally the first week of COVID and then they were like, okay, we found a home for him like be ready and it was no and now you have and yeah, he was zero dollars. I can't believe I got him for free.

Like I look at him and I'm like, yeah, I paid nothing for you. He's a German shepherd, right? He's a, yeah, he's a German shepherd mix. Oh, he's beautiful. He's like 17 breeds. You know, he's part chihuahua. What? How is that? And terrier. Okay, so what I don't understand about that is because how the fuck has a German shepherd and a chihuahua fucked? I don't know. And I don't know if that's actually how it works.

Because there's like 17 other breeds. So what if the Chihuahua fucked the Yorkie? Got it. And then the Yorkie fucked the... The Yorkie. They had something and then that was... The Yorkie fucked the Beagle. And then the Beagle fucked the German Shepherd. Yeah, exactly. Well, on that note... Thanks for watching. Olivia, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. You're welcome back anytime, whenever you want. Thank you so much. I love you. I love you. If you ever need a guest, I'll be here. Girl, don't test me. I love you. I love you. Wait, say bye to the pussies. Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies.

He's got you on the hook. He's slaying and he's shook. It's Therapist, Therapist, Therapist, Therapist.