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E29: Coinbase goes public, direct listings vs. IPOs, portfolio management, unions & more with Bestie Guestie Brad Gerstner

2021/4/17
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Brad Gerstner
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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人,投资过多家知名初创公司,并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
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Chamath Palihapitiya:批评现有的资本市场体系未能充分服务于创业者,并对 Coinbase 的直接上市和自身参与的交易表示肯定。他认为,直接上市和创新型融资方式为创业者提供了更多选择,并有助于打破传统资本市场体系的束缚。 Brad Gerstner:就 Coinbase 直接上市的股票发行策略提出建议,认为如果打算出售股票,最好立即出售,因为直接上市后的股价通常会下跌。他还认为,锁定期对长期员工不公平,并建议在 IPO 中尽量避免锁定期。他认为,Grab 的 IPO 结构比传统 IPO 更有效率,为员工和股东节省了大量成本,并对 a16z 在 Coinbase 上的投资策略表示高度评价。 David Sacks:认为 Coinbase 的成功证明了公司可以不遵循传统模式行事,并对 Grab 的 IPO 结构进行了解释,指出大部分员工和早期股东可以在第一天出售股票。他还认为,传统 IPO 的隐性成本很高,Grab 的 IPO 结构比传统 IPO 更有效率,为员工和股东节省了大量成本。 Jason Calacanis:对现有工会的批评,并对工会改革提出建议。他认为,工会领导层的激励机制与工会成员利益不一致,并建议对工会进行改革,使其更好地服务于工会成员的利益。他还对媒体对拜登和特朗普政府政策报道的双重标准表示批评,认为媒体缺乏客观性和公正性。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 对现有资本市场体系的批评,认为其未能充分服务于创业者。对直接上市和Chamath Palihapitiya参与的交易的肯定。 Brad Gerstner: 直接上市的股票发行策略建议:如果打算出售股票,最好立即出售。直接上市后股价通常会下跌。直接上市对公司员工士气的潜在负面影响。认为锁定期对长期员工不公平。 David Sacks: 直接上市没有锁定期,员工可以自由选择是否出售股票。Grab 的 IPO 结构:大部分员工和早期股东可以在第一天出售股票。传统 IPO 的隐性成本很高。Grab 的 IPO 结构比传统 IPO 更有效率,为员工和股东节省了大量成本。传统 IPO 会导致公司失去对自身资本的控制。Coinbase 的成功证明了公司可以不遵循传统模式行事。 Jason Calacanis: 对现有工会的批评。对工会改革的建议。工会可以被视为自由市场体系的体现。媒体对拜登和特朗普政府政策报道的双重标准。

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This chapter discusses the impact of Coinbase's direct listing, the advantages of direct listings over traditional IPOs, and the implications of lockup periods for company morale and stock value.
  • Coinbase's direct listing was the largest ever, surpassing Roblox, with significant revenue.
  • Direct listings offer administrative simplicity but may not be ideal for company morale.
  • Lockup periods can be demoralizing for longstanding employees, benefiting short-term investors instead.
  • The lack of lockups in some cases, like Roblox, allows for quicker price discovery.
  • High-profile investors like Fidelity and Janus believe in the higher valuation potential through non-traditional IPOs.
  • The importance of curating a capable day-one shareholder base for public companies is emphasized.

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Referenced in the show:

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Show Notes:

0:00 Bestie intro & crowning a new SPAC king

3:01 Coinbase's direct listing, comparing vehicles to go public & lockup periods, Sacks on Coinbase vs. NYT

12:06 David Sacks on running for governor

15:21 Brad & the besties react to the crazy Q1 in the markets, a16z's savvy buying moves with Coinbase, issues with short-term behavioral lock-in

32:37 Top insights from Bezos' letter to shareholders, Amazon employees reject the union in Alabama

50:27 Reacting to Drew Holden's recent thread on media double standards in covering each party

54:28 Federalism's benefits throughout COVID, State-by-state results reveal lockdowns didn't work, vaccine incentives and PR due to J&J decision

1:04:20 Degradation of faith in institutions accelerated by COVID

1:09:26 Republican Senator Josh Hawley calls for big tech antitrust reform, bypassing institutions for progress