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E34: Wuhan lab leak theory, India's "traceability" law, Coinbase's fact check, Big Tech's Hollywood takeover

2021/5/31
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Brian Armstrong
作为Coinbase的首席执行官和亿万富翁,布莱恩·阿姆斯特朗在加密货币领域取得了显著成就,并因其在工作场所保持政治中立的政策而引起关注。
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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人,投资过多家知名初创公司,并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
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David Friedberg:武汉病毒研究所泄漏理论的讨论受到了政治化和媒体审查的影响,这使得人们难以客观地评估该理论的可能性。他认为,无论该理论是否最终被证实,此次事件都凸显了生物战和生物恐怖主义的风险,以及对生物技术进行监管的必要性。他还讨论了中国作为芬太尼的主要生产国所带来的问题。 Chamath Palihapitiya:他认为,关于武汉病毒研究所泄漏的讨论被特朗普的言论所政治化,导致无法客观评估。他强调,选择合适的领导人至关重要,避免政治化影响科学判断。他还指出,全球化模式已经结束,企业需要将重点放在供应链的韧性上,并呼吁美国专注于自身发展,而不是对抗中国。 David Sacks:他认为,中国政府阻挠调查,导致无法确定新冠病毒是否来自武汉病毒研究所。他主张美国需要减少对中国的依赖,特别是在医疗和制药领域,并强调应对新冠病毒实验室泄漏事件,美国应该优先关注自身独立性,而不是对中国采取制裁。他还讨论了中国作为芬太尼的主要生产国所带来的问题,认为中国政府故意向美国输送芬太尼,目的是为了获利或破坏美国社会稳定。 Jason Calacanis:他提出了关于新冠病毒起源的疑问,并讨论了2012年中国矿工感染不明疾病事件与新冠病毒实验室泄漏理论的关联性。他还表达了美国政府可能已经掌握了新冠病毒实验室泄漏的证据的观点。 David Friedberg: The discussion of the Wuhan lab leak theory has been affected by politicization and media censorship, making it difficult to objectively assess the likelihood of the theory. He believes that regardless of whether the theory is ultimately proven, the event highlights the risks of biowarfare and bioterrorism, and the need for regulation of biotechnology. He also discussed the problems caused by China as the main producer of fentanyl. Chamath Palihapitiya: He believes that the discussion about the Wuhan lab leak was politicized by Trump's statements, leading to an inability to objectively assess it. He emphasized that choosing the right leader is crucial to avoid politicizing scientific judgment. He also pointed out that the globalization model is over, and companies need to focus on the resilience of the supply chain, and called on the United States to focus on its own development instead of confronting China. David Sacks: He believes that the Chinese government thwarted the investigation, making it impossible to determine whether the novel coronavirus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. He advocates that the United States needs to reduce its dependence on China, especially in the medical and pharmaceutical fields, and emphasizes that in response to the novel coronavirus laboratory leak incident, the United States should prioritize its own independence rather than imposing sanctions on China. He also discussed the problems caused by China as the main producer of fentanyl, believing that the Chinese government deliberately sent fentanyl to the United States for profit or to destabilize the country. Jason Calacanis: He raised questions about the origin of the novel coronavirus and discussed the connection between the 2012 incident in which Chinese miners contracted an unknown disease and the novel coronavirus laboratory leak theory. He also expressed the view that the US government may have already obtained evidence of the novel coronavirus laboratory leak.

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The discussion revolves around the origins of COVID-19, specifically whether it leaked from a lab in Wuhan. The conversation also touches on the politicization of science and the role of media and big tech in shaping the narrative.

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Referenced in the show:

WSJ - The Wuhan Lab Leak Question: A Disused Chinese Mine Takes Center Stage

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wuhan-lab-leak-question-chinese-mine-covid-pandemic-11621871125)

Forbes - Friends Don't Let Friends Become Chinese Billionaires

https://www.forbes.com/sites/raykwong/2011/07/25/friends-dont-let-friends-become-chinese-billionaires/?sh=44597352ddae)

Brookings - Fentanyl and geopolitics: Controlling opioid supply from China

https://www.brookings.edu/research/fentanyl-and-geopolitics-controlling-opioid-supply-from-china/)

NPR - 'We Are Shipping To The U.S.': Inside China's Online Synthetic Drug Networks

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/916890880/we-are-shipping-to-the-u-s-china-s-fentanyl-sellers-find-new-routes-to-drug-user)

Coinbase - Announcing Coinbase Fact Check: Decentralizing truth in the age of misinformation

https://blog.coinbase.com/announcing-coinbase-fact-check-decentralizing-truth-in-the-age-of-misinformation-757d2392d61a)

Show Notes:

0:00 Friedberg recaps Sacks' birthday party

6:47 "Wuhan Lab Leak" theory, did COVID come from a lab? Plusn China's fentanyl production

26:09 India's new "traceability" law

33:11 Coinbase & Brian Armstrong debut fact checking blog

41:17 Friedberg's science corner: groundbreaking gene therapies

45:06 Amazon's MGM acquisition, media consolidation

1:04:45 Biden's $6T infrastructure, Democrat's feeling the inflation pressure & responding