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E35: Biogen's controversial Alzheimer's drug approval, the billionaire space race, real estate, Bitcoin & more

2021/6/13
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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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David Friedberg:Biogen公司开发的阿尔茨海默病药物Aducanumab获得FDA批准,引发了广泛争议。该药物的疗效有限,FDA咨询小组曾一致反对批准,但最终仍获得批准。这引发了关于药物定价、医疗保险支付能力以及FDA审批流程的伦理和经济问题。 Chamath Palihapitiya:阿尔茨海默病药物的研发一直失败,该药物的批准可能存在长期战略考量,即通过创造市场来激励其他公司进行研发,最终找到更好的解决方案。FDA可能采取了类似于之前批准杜氏肌营养不良症药物的策略,即在确保药物安全的前提下,先批准药物,再通过市场竞争来推动创新。 David Sacks:应该简化药物审批流程,对于可能对患有致命疾病的患者有帮助的药物,应该更容易获得批准。应该允许患者尝试那些疗效尚不确定的药物,尤其是在面对绝症的情况下。 Chamath Palihapitiya:阿尔茨海默病的患病群体主要集中在少数族裔和女性,这本身就是一个问题,而且该疾病的药物研发一直失败,这使得该药物的批准更加复杂。FDA批准该药物可能存在长期战略考量,即通过创造市场来激励其他公司进行研发,最终找到更好的解决方案。 David Friedberg:该药物的生产成本低廉,但定价却高达56000美元,引发了关于药物定价和医疗保险支付能力的伦理和经济问题。FDA批准该药物是一种创新的做法,它采用了一种激进的自由市场方法,旨在刺激竞争和创新。 David Sacks:应该允许患者尝试那些疗效尚不确定的药物,尤其是在面对绝症的情况下。 David Sacks:应该简化药物审批流程,对于可能对患有致命疾病的患者有帮助的药物,应该更容易获得批准。应该允许患者尝试那些疗效尚不确定的药物,尤其是在面对绝症的情况下。FDA可能采取了类似于之前批准杜氏肌营养不良症药物的策略,即在确保药物安全的前提下,先批准药物,再通过市场竞争来推动创新。

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The episode starts with a discussion about the controversial approval of Biogen’s Alzheimer’s drug by the FDA, despite unanimous advisory panel opposition and resignations. The hosts explore the potential implications, from the economic incentives driving further innovation to ethical questions about drug pricing and regulatory processes.
  • Biogen's Alzheimer's drug, Aducanumab, was approved despite unanimous advisory committee opposition.
  • The drug costs $56,000 annually, despite costing $5 to produce, raising ethical pricing concerns.
  • The approval could incentivize further innovation in Alzheimer's treatment, despite current controversy.

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Show Notes:

0:00 Bestie intro, Chamath's whereabouts

2:54 Breaking down Biogen's Alzheimer's drug & the FDA's controversial approval

26:46 Billionaire space race: Is Bezos going to space too risky or a smart marketing move? How the space industry is a perfect example of effective government intervention. Can anyone dominate space?

42:55 Big Tech getting back to the office: what is the new normal for companies with thousands of employees?

56:49 Recent factors on the commercial & private real estate markets, inflation head fake

1:05:01 ProPublica's report on billionaire tax returns

1:15:58 Bitcoin toxicity, Snowflake's CEO apologizes for comments on merit & diversity

1:32:48 Science corner with Friedberg: Induced pluripotent stem cells & cloning

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-10/harvard-expert-quits-fda-panel-as-furor-over-biogen-drug-grows)

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