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E36: New FTC Chair, breaking up big tech, government silent spying, Jon Stewart, wildfires & more

2021/6/18
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Chamath Palihapitiya:Lina Khan被任命为FTC主席,这将对大型科技公司构成重大挑战。他详细阐述了Khan对亚马逊等公司的批判性观点,以及她提出的具体的反垄断措施,例如拆分谷歌地图和安卓系统,以及拆分亚马逊AWS等。他认为Khan的方案具有可行性,并不会导致旷日持久的诉讼。 David Sacks:他认为Lina Khan对亚马逊的担忧是合理的,亚马逊控制着重要的基础设施,并利用其垄断利润进入新的市场领域,这是一种掠夺性定价行为。但他同时表达了对Khan反垄断运动的担忧,认为其可能导致政府过度干预市场,缺乏明确的限制原则,并可能导致市场的过度政治化。他分析了反垄断法的三个主要方面(谢尔曼法案、克莱顿法案和FTC法案),并建议从Facebook或谷歌入手,利用FTC法案中关于不正当竞争和欺骗行为的条款来构建更强的案例。他还讨论了大型科技公司如何利用其优势降低价格,并最终提高价格,这是一种潜在的反竞争行为。 David Friedberg:他表达了对Lina Khan反垄断运动的担忧,认为其可能损害消费者利益。他认为,大型科技公司通过规模化运营降低价格,消费者从中受益,而反垄断运动可能导致价格上涨,损害消费者利益。他认为,在反垄断问题上,需要权衡消费者利益、创新和竞争之间的关系。

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The discussion explores Lina Khan's appointment as the FTC Chair, her potential strategies for regulating Big Tech, and the implications for consumers and startups.
  • Lina Khan, a known critic of Big Tech, was appointed as FTC Chair with bipartisan support.
  • Khan's approach includes addressing issues like Amazon's dominance and the integration of Google services.
  • Potential regulation strategies could involve breaking up tech giants or treating them as common carriers.
  • There is a debate on whether breaking up Big Tech will benefit consumers or startups.
  • Concerns include the politicization of antitrust actions and the long-term impact on market competition.

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Show Notes:

00:00 Besties intro

03:37 Lina Khan appointed to the Chair of the Federal Trade Commission

07:02 Will Lina break up big tech? Which one will be first?

18:02 Potential repercussions to consumers

27:48 Sacks’ antitrust experience at PayPal vs. Ebay, Visa & MasterCard

29:50 Google’s multi-trillion dollar data trove

35:40 The U.S. government's capability to silently take data while “gagging” Big Tech

53:32 COVID’s psychic shadow, Friedberg’s office landlord is still requiring masks

1:00:17 Jon Stewart’s lab leak bit on Stephen Colbert’s show

1:10:04 California’s wildfire risk increasing with climate change

1:20:57 Besties summer plans

Referenced in the show:

Chamath's 2019 Annual Letter re: Big Tech breakup

https://www.socialcapital.com/annual-letters/2019)

Big Tech Gag Order (mentioned by Sacks)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/13/microsoft-brad-smith-trump-justice-department-gag-orders/)

Obama Administration Record Seizure (mentioned by Sacks)

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/us/phone-records-of-journalists-of-the-associated-press-seized-by-us.html?referringSource=articleShare)

California Forest fire maps (mentioned by Friedberg)

https://twitter.com/NWSBayArea/status/1398474379214802951/photo/1)

Jon Stewart On Vaccine Science And The Wuhan Lab Theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8)

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