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E72: Impact of sanctions, deglobalization, food shortage risks, macroeconomic outlook and more

2022/3/19
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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David Sacks: 普京低估了乌克兰的抵抗能力,战争结果仍不确定。西方可能过于自信,忽视了俄方可能采取的升级行动以及中国可能保持中立的可能性。当前的西方叙事可能过于乐观,未能充分考虑俄乌冲突的复杂性和潜在的长期影响。 David Sacks: 西方对俄罗斯实施的严厉制裁对全球经济产生了深远影响,但其长期后果仍有待观察。制裁可能对普京施压,促使其达成协议,但也可能导致俄罗斯与中国进一步结盟,并对全球经济造成严重的负面影响,例如粮食危机。 David Sacks: 对俄罗斯实施的制裁以及企业社会责任的结合,证明了其在促成妥协或政权更迭方面的有效性。但我们需要考虑制裁的长期影响,并将其纳入和平谈判。 David Sacks: 最佳情况是,制裁促使俄罗斯屈服,结束战争,并促进民主;最坏情况是,制裁导致大范围饥荒,战争长期化,俄罗斯与中国结盟,并对美国经济造成严重冲击。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 俄乌双方都暗示已接近达成协议,目前的强硬言论可能是为了在谈判中争取更多利益。市场对俄乌冲突的潜在和解以及美联储的明确利率指引反应积极。 David Friedberg: 俄乌冲突导致全球粮食市场剧烈波动,可能导致大范围饥荒。粮食短缺、化肥价格上涨以及农田减产等问题将对全球粮食安全造成严重威胁。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 市场正在经历“熔断式上涨”,因为近期消除了许多不确定性因素,例如俄乌冲突的潜在和解以及美联储的明确利率指引。零售投资者的行为通常与市场走势相反,他们的行为不应被视为可靠的市场指标。 David Friedberg: 俄乌冲突导致全球粮食市场剧烈波动,可能导致大范围饥荒。粮食短缺、化肥价格上涨以及农田减产等问题将对全球粮食安全造成严重威胁。我们需要采取措施来解决这些问题,例如重新开放化肥出口市场、降低天然气价格以及确保春季小麦播种。

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This chapter discusses the impact of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and subsequent sanctions on global food supply, focusing on wheat and fertilizer shortages.
  • Ukraine and Russia are major global wheat suppliers, and the conflict has disrupted planting and exports.
  • 15% of the world's calories come from wheat, with a significant portion from Russia and Ukraine.
  • The global food supply operates on a 90-day reserve, highlighting the urgency of the situation.
  • Rising natural gas prices have drastically increased the cost of nitrogen-based fertilizers.
  • Fertilizer shortages are causing farmers worldwide to reduce crop production, exacerbating food scarcity.
  • Without intervention, widespread famine is predicted, affecting hundreds of millions globally.

Shownotes Transcript

0:00 Jason's new "family office" and Sacks' new strategy 2:39 Understanding where all sides stand in the Russia/Ukraine War three weeks in

15:21 Sanctions risking a major food shortage: possible solutions, how we got here, creating distributed manufacturing and supply chains, capitalist incentives flipping

34:59 Breaking down the second- and third-order effects of the massive sanctions on Russia; best case/worst case outcomes for this new form of economic warfare, deglobalization

49:26 US economy big picture outlook: inflation, rising rates, decreasing uncertainty potentially a bullish sign in public markets; how that flows to private markets

1:02:06 Rewriting foreign policy playbooks

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