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E74: Market update, inverted yield curve, immigration, new SPAC rules, $FB smears TikTok and more

2022/4/1
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人,投资过多家知名初创公司,并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
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David Sacks: 美国对外政策三十年来混乱不堪,需要更克制,避免像“暴怒的大象”一样四处横冲直撞,造成巨大损失;奥巴马政府对外政策本能更好,拜登则升级了冲突;奥巴马政府被"blob"(对外政策机构)牵着鼻子走,导致无法从阿富汗撤军;奥巴马政府遵循既定对外政策手册,导致在应对挑衅时反应过度。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 2年期和10年期国债收益率曲线倒挂被认为是经济衰退的预测指标;收益率曲线倒挂意味着政府可能会大幅降息以刺激经济,这通常发生在经济衰退期间;3个月期和18个月期国债收益率差值比2年期和10年期国债收益率差值更能预测经济衰退,目前该指标并未显示衰退迹象;市场反应不当,优质公司股价上涨,劣质公司股价下跌;即将到来的财报季将区分出经营稳健和经营不善的公司;美国经济将放缓,甚至可能陷入衰退,因为加息、通货膨胀以及俄乌战争造成的供应链中断;政府对疫情的过度反应导致通货膨胀,企业将减少支出以应对经济放缓;美国应该吸引全球创业者和人才;最终的责任在于消费者,如果消费者选择更环保的产品,企业就会关注环保问题;如果允许TikTok在美国发展,那么Facebook和谷歌等美国公司也应该有公平竞争的机会;关于碳排放的法律法规,如果制定不当,可能会导致咨询行业蓬勃发展,而未能有效减少碳排放。 Jason Calacanis: 应对经济衰退的传统手段(增加政府支出、减税、降低利率)目前难以实施;当前劳动力市场与以往经济衰退时的情况不同,就业岗位多于求职者;通货膨胀具有持续性,难以通过增加劳动力来解决;关于移民问题的讨论应该避免非此即彼的思维方式,而应寻求合理的解决方案;美国社会关注公平,认为科技进步的收益分配不均;科技进步使消费者受益,但其收益集中于少数人手中,引发了社会对公平的关注;应考虑产品或服务的外部成本(例如,环境污染、健康问题),并决定由谁来承担这些成本;碳排放市场的测量方法不可靠,容易产生虚假信息;Facebook雇佣共和党游说公司抹黑TikTok,是一种不正当竞争行为;如果允许TikTok在美国发展,那么Facebook和谷歌等美国公司也应该有公平竞争的机会。 Freeberg: SEC的新规加强了现有优势,而非促进市场公平竞争;SEC的新规主要受益者是律师、顾问和会计师等专业人士;SEC关于气候披露的新规可能导致诉讼增加,律师和顾问将从中受益;俄乌战争可能导致粮食短缺,但也有其他国家会增加粮食供应来弥补;俄乌战争导致粮食出口受阻,乌克兰的播种面积可能大幅减少,化肥价格上涨,都可能导致粮食短缺;拜登关于“政权更迭”的言论是严重的失误,可能会加剧俄乌冲突;俄乌冲突的最终结果可能是乌克兰保持中立,克里米亚归属俄罗斯,顿巴斯地区获得某种形式的独立。

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The discussion explores the implications of the inverted yield curve, its historical accuracy in predicting recessions, and the broader economic factors influencing these predictions.
  • The inverted yield curve is often seen as a precursor to a recession.
  • Other economic indicators, such as the forward spread, show a healthy economy despite the yield curve inversion.
  • Market reactions to economic signals can be inappropriate and lead to misinterpretations.

Shownotes Transcript

0:00 Sacks' DC trip and foreign policy speaking gig

5:50 Yield curve inversion, breaking down the current state of the markets, understanding the labor market through birth rate and immigration

26:16 How the US can fix its current economic issues, reframing high-skilled immigration

48:54 SEC's new proposed rules around SPACs and climate disclosures for public companies: how will both markets be impacted?

1:10:29 Meta used a GOP firm to run a smear campaign against TikTok in the US: dirty, necessary, or both?

1:19:03 Food shortage update

1:24:33 Sacks and Jason reflect on Biden's inflammatory comments on Putin

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525)

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/part-us-yield-curve-just-inverted-does-that-mean-recession-is-coming-2022-03-28)

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/dont-fear-the-yield-curve-reprise-20220325.htm)

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