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The Stablecoin Future, Milei's Memecoin, DOGE for the DoD, Grok 3, Why Stripe Stays Private

2025/2/21
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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John Collison
爱尔兰亿万富翁企业家,Stripe联合创始人和总裁。
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Patrick Collison
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John Collison: Stripe成立初期,面临着金融科技领域尚未成熟的挑战,大多数投资者对我们的商业模式持怀疑态度,这使得融资过程异常艰难。我们坚持自己的理念,专注于解决初创企业在支付方面的痛点,并逐渐扩展到更广泛的金融服务领域。 Patrick Collison: Stripe每年处理的交易额已超过一万亿美元,这体现了我们技术的成熟和市场认可度。然而,我们并不满足于现状,而是不断拓展业务边界,从支付扩展到贷款、发卡、资金管理、跨境支付和稳定币等领域。这是因为我们观察到,所有资金流动都正从人工操作转向软件操作,这为我们提供了巨大的发展机遇。我们收购了Bridge公司,致力于成为稳定币领域的领导者,为全球用户提供美元服务。 我们认为,稳定币是目前最具潜力的支付应用场景,其技术已经足够成熟,可以满足大规模应用的需求。稳定币的应用,特别是跨境支付和全球资金管理,将极大地改变现有的金融体系。虽然Visa和Mastercard占据主导地位,但稳定币的出现为挑战其垄断地位提供了新的可能性。然而,这并非简单的垄断挑战,而是涉及消费者奖励、保护和信贷等多方面的复杂权衡。 我们也关注到,许多公司因应收应付流程低效而损失大量收入,因此我们开发了Stripe Billing等产品来解决这个问题。虽然Stripe的数据可能无法完全代表整体经济,但我们可以构建可靠的经济指标,例如通货膨胀指标,并将其公开分享,以促进更透明和高效的经济运行。 在构建理想的金融系统方面,我们认为技术可扩展性、信任和反欺诈机制至关重要。Stripe作为互联网经济中的声誉网络,在反欺诈方面发挥着重要作用。稳定币将成为未来金融系统的重要组成部分,但不会完全取代面向消费者的支付网络。我们相信,通过不断创新和改进,Stripe能够在未来十年甚至更长时间内持续发展壮大。

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(0:00) The Besties welcome John and Patrick Collison!

(4:28) Stripe's business evolution: $1T in volume/year, stablecoins, challenging the Visa/Mastercard duopoly, publishing economic indicators

(20:31) Jamie Dimon's leaked rant on remote work and bureaucracy

(34:22) DOGE for Defense: Trump ordered the Pentagon to look at cutting the defense budget by 8%/year over the next five years

(43:51) Crypto Corner: Milei's Memecoin embarrassment

(1:00:18) John and Patrick break down the Arc Institute and its new Evo 2 AI model

(1:18:04) Grok 3 takes the LLM lead, lessons learned from Elon's Colossus scale up

(1:30:22) Science Corner: Asteroid update

(1:35:42) Why Stripe hasn't gone public yet, despite great metrics

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