Pick-me Girls, Politics, & Cancel Culture ft. Jared Freid (U Up? podcast)
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Rise and shine, fever dreamers. Look alive, my friends. I'm Bea Spear. I'm Sammy Sage. And this is American Fever Dream presented by Betches News. Where we explore the absurdities and oddities of our uniquely American experience. And today we are joined by a unicorn, a white man. College educated, good looking, single, Jewish. That's all those things. Do you know who it is? I'm excited.

Jared Freed. Welcome to the show, Jared. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. Taking time out of your privileged existence to spend with us lowly females. I got off of my white horse that I rode in here, my steed. Preachy females in democratic politics. We're so glad to have you. What are you doing with that extra 20 cents on the dollar, Jared? You're so brave. Thank you. This is my brave moment. Yeah. The reason we want to talk to you is because we know the reasons that you're nervous. All right. Tell us why you're nervous. I

I mean, even yesterday I was here and your new business partner, Solly. Oh. Solly's like, you're going on the political one?

He's like, I'm interested to see how that goes. And I'm like, I didn't even, you know, I'm talking with you, Sammy. So I'm like, but it's so funny that like this guy's a billionaire. And he's like, whatever it is. The political one with a Jew and a lesbian. Two preachy females in democratic politics. We are here to cancel you. That's actually why we trapped you. The door's locked.

Now talk about women, Jared. Go off, king. Don't you think that's interesting, though, that this guy who he's successful in his own right, he probably has nothing really to worry about social. He's not putting his opinion out there. Never, yeah. It's not his thing. And he's a nice guy, and I'm sure his opinion is a worthwhile opinion, but it was funny for him to look at me and be like, what are you going to say? And I'm like, as if I had come with these like,

Crazy. Like, let me start by saying I'm an idiot. I know nothing about politics. You're wearing a WWE hat. I am. Which I, as a WWE fan, find brave today. Thank you. Yeah, this could be coded. Yeah, it could be. Oh, it could be. Yeah, Linda, did you watch the documentary? No.

I can't. She's the new secretary of education. She's very smart, though. Look, I don't want to give anybody credit, but Linda McMahon of the whole circus is a worthy ringleader. She's okay. Okay, well, that's good that she's running education, I guess. She's smart. I mean, that's a billion-dollar – you know, that's the thing that's the rub of it all. Well, will she use her powers for good, though, is what we need to know. You don't know. And, you know, you don't know what – and then it's also like –

So I go to St. Louis, and I was there last weekend, and I go to public courses. I was also in Missouri last weekend. Where were you? I was in Springfield with Chapel Roan's parents, which was super nice. You are at the... Springfield, Missouri is like the epicenter of weird. Well, they asked me, oh, are you here for the Assembly of God? And I was like, why? Yeah, Missouri. That's here? I was like, no, I'm here for a gay fundraiser, and they were like, the opposite. Springfield? That area. Isn't it wild? I didn't leave the hotel. I was just kidding. It's just...

Honestly, why didn't you leave the hotel? What hotel was that? The Oasis, which is owned by the guy who owns all the trucking companies. Okay. And so it was all truckers, some of whom were gay, which was so fun. Yeah. And then it was just like a gay fundraiser for like all gay organizations across Missouri. They raised like a ton of money and it was super fun, but they were like, if you want to go anywhere, we have an escort for you. And I was like, no, anytime you want to like-

manage me in a city, I'm like, this is not going to go well. Yes, Springfield from when I was there, and again, it's like a college town, so like it does have like your college thing going on, but it's also the Ozarks, and it's like this very like

right-wingy area, and the open carry thing is kind of done with pride. I remember I was there on a Saturday, and there was just men dressed going on a Halloween parade. It looked crazy, with huge guns on their side, and it was just such a show. And I remember being like,

man, like this is, and all the buildings kind of look like the wild West or not that very tall. It kind of looks like a movie set. And I have a joke in, in 37 single in the special about like mentioning Boca and like it getting weird, like mentioning Jews and stuff. And I remember Springfield, Missouri is a place where it did get weird. Like someone in the crowd, like got like awkward, but like, that's like as much as I've ever seen, like as far as like,

Real anti-Semitism? Yeah, like, you don't really get that. Well, the people had to go to your show. It's not like you choose it. But it's the one comedy club in the town, so we want comedy. We want the show. Whoever's the comedian they bring, that's who it is. If you're willing to come to Springfield, Missouri, they'll have you on. They had me...

No, it's where Chapel Rhone is from. I didn't know she was from there. That's her hometown. I met her parents. They are so cool. We're going to have them on. But they're just such interesting people for like you don't ever assume you're going to meet like an up and coming famous person's parents. And they are equally lost in the swim of things and just like such delightful, kind people. But they were like, yeah, the only place we could take you is maybe if you want to go to the original Bass Pro Shop. And I was like, I'll be here.

I'll be right here. Was that like the original? I'll be right here. Like the first one? The first one. They were like, I don't go anywhere. That makes sense that it would come from that culture. No. I spent this week in my Hilton above the Applebee's in Times Square. I don't typically. Well, that's America. That's why you don't have to be scared to come on our show because I'm literally scared of everything, including asking you a question that might scare you. I guess the thing is from traveling, I really am not that scared. You know, like I, you know, but I do come across people.

weird conversations every day because you're alone. And especially if you travel alone, like you just come across these like instances where you're

You meet the country. I was golfing with these two men. They are in shorts in November golfing at a public golf course. You can spend, you know, it's 40 bucks and like I go on, it's a beautiful golf course. And, you know, you just start chit-chatting. And these guys, they literally were like, I said, where do you guys live? Cause it was in Illinois, uh, in Missouri and St. Louis, the river separates, uh, Illinois from Missouri. Yeah.

And one guy goes, Illinois. And the other guy says, I live in Missouri. And we play golf together every week. And I go, what? I go, why would someone live in Illinois versus Missouri? Like, which is to me such a simple question. Like, I feel like an idiot. They go, well, you know, freedoms. Oh. And I. Like guns. But at that point.

I honestly don't know which one's more free. Like, it's not. What was the answer? We know what the answer is. No, they think Missouri has the freedom because Illinois is like the liberal one that has more laws. So I said, I go, which one's which? And they literally, they go, Missouri. And I go, but you can't even gamble in Missouri. You can't do DraftKings. And I was like, I had to put in my bets for the football.

before the weekend. - 'Cause you have to like jump across the river and do your best. - Yeah, right. That's kind of basically what you have to do. And I said that, when I said that to them, but I was like literally from the mouth of Babe. Like I'm not like,

That's not how I look at the world. And I just go, but you can't even gamble there. And they're like, like it was as if like, I just gave them the quadratic equation. Like it was like, you've messed with the whole, cause like, they're going to start like lobbying their, their lawmakers. Like we need to gamble. We need the freedom. They go, it's coming in January. They got like a little defensive and then they go, we're run. And then the Illinois guy goes, we're run by Chicago. Um,

It was basically his bent. And I'm like, okay. And again, I come out with this. I go, I'm just more like eating it. I'm just like, this is just an interesting... And I guess it's like, it kind of shows the emotional thing.

If you just say freedoms and like, you're good with most people. Yeah, they're like, my freedoms, my state. Enough said. But even in Missouri, you have to cross over to do your betting. But in Missouri, you also can't access Pornhub. They have the same laws as Texas. Really? So you have to like...

Yeah. Now I think we know why they're friends. Well, maybe that's a trading passcode. A VPN. Right. It's just like it makes it, it shows you how complicated like this whole thing is. States' rights are? States' rights, but like just all like. I'm so free because I can carry a gun. Right. I don't know. I just like, I look at that and I go. And not see gay people ever. Because then the next question that was coming, and I knew it was coming. Who'd you vote for? No. Now they know I'm a comedian.

Is it hard to do comedy considering the woke audiences? That's why we're here now. That's always. That's why we were going to ask you. You're like, no, because I'm actually funny. No, no, no. It's always the second question. No, no. You're okay. I will just say you are kind of like the Anthony Bourdain of public golf courses. Yeah. I have a lot of stories. But I do think it's a good show. Yeah. It really is so good. But.

But what I regretted not asking you on Monday, November 4th, was who you thought was going to win. Because you see – I think you see so much more of like the average American than I do for sure. Right. I wouldn't claim to have –

guessed it because I just wasn't thinking of it to tell you the truth. I kind of like, I felt, I would say, and I said, we talked about this on you up and it came up and then we cut it out and not to sound like I knew anything, but I was like, I just don't feel involved in the conversation was like my kind of like, and I said like, I, and I said, and this is why we cut it out because like, I know this sounds bad, but like,

Again, this is like part of the nervousness of going on. My opinion matters the same as anyone else's. Well, it's better that you acknowledge that you don't like that your opinion isn't worth more than someone who would know.

And like that you're willing to hear. Of course, I'm willing to hear, but I'm also allowed to have an opinion to hearing, you know, and I said like you're making a good point, though, that you on November 4th, so many of us were like, oh, my God, I'm so involved. Yeah, but we weren't talking to men. Right. And that turned out to be kind of what the problem was, is a lot of men didn't feel included in the conversation or didn't feel like her policies reached them or that there was like inclusivity for them in the space. So they kind of were like.

If you're not into Trump, you're kind of like, okay. What's the motivation? Right. What gets me to move? And I'm like, my motivation... I was like, I don't think it's a motivating thing to talk about the abortion stuff. I think that's like, I care about it, but it's not motivating. It got to be the constant... It's all you heard about, which is fine. And again, I'm talking about what gets someone to get up off the couch. And it was like...

For me, single guy, no wife in my year. You know, like that's, and I'm already agreeing with you. Like, I'm like, listen, I, I kind of was like, you know, if we look at the country as a business, one side feels like they have like some ideas and some thought of where we're going to go. And the other side, it feels like they're just like telling us how horrible things are. And I don't really feel it's that horrible.

So, like, what gets people to go? And then you see these young kids who are in fraternities, like, having, like, you know, Trump parties. Oh, my gosh. But, like, and you go, there's no one in their ear. You know, like, and they've also...

The rationalization that was given, like, these are state rights. It doesn't matter on a national level. He hasn't... You know, they already found ways to make themselves not... As threatening as they... The evilness of it. It looked easier to do that one. Yeah. The evil. No one thinks of themselves as the bad guy in the movie. So that was my thinking going in. And then you see how it works out. And, like, now you're seeing all this stuff happen. And, like, I kind of, again, like, I guess, like...

It's interesting to see that like people are kind of getting like angry at people for their list. What's your list of how you make your vote? And it's like you can't understand that someone else's list might be different. Like the rankings might be different for them than you. Or that some people might not like even have that. Like I think a lot of people don't have a list. Like they are not thinking that consciously. Like there were people Googling, did Joe Biden drop out on election day?

Right. And like... Because they work for a living, right? Yeah. You're like going through your day. You got your kids. You're trying to pay your bills. You're doing whatever. You turn on TV. You feel like they're yelling at you about abortion. That's not something you need your eight-year-old to hear about today. So you shut it off. So you're tuned out. And then all of a sudden it comes up and you're like, oh, I guess it's time to vote. Let me... I don't know. Boop. You can't fathom this because our job is the internet. Right. So like...

their job is not on the phone. Well, it's guy who says freedoms. Right. Yeah. You know, like, that is, it is, it's so much easier. And again, like, I can't, he goes, what do you think of the woke audiences right now? And I say, but I go, I go, there's an answer that you're going to like, and I go, there's an answer that's going to make you want to never talk to me again. I go, what do you want? And he goes, what? And I'm like, the one you like is, oh, it's so hard.

They're coming after me. Everything's awful. I go, if that's what you want to hear, I can tell you that. I go, the real answer is everyone who gets canceled makes more money after they're canceled. Matt Reif. Matt Reif, Louis. Yeah. They all made more money in their cancellation. Chappelle.

Also, if you're a good comic and you're working hard to write the jokes, you believe in your jokes and people like them or they don't. You can't control someone not liking my joke does not mean that I can't work again. That's crazy. And they just have enough people that they can associate with

Maybe those people won't come to my show, but honestly, I need people to hate my jokes as much as they love it or I didn't say anything at all. But they also, I don't know if they expect like every comic is Andrew Dice Clay in 1995 or something and they're just here to like say the most disgusting, horrible, offensive things. It's like, no, you write actual like observational humor, very funny jokes that let the audience be in on the joke even if they're the butt of the joke without being like, I don't think a lot of people understand the difference between like

comedy and just being mean to people. Right. And I think it's like the same. Also, criticism versus like cancellation. Right. You know, like, you know, Matt Rife, I don't, I think he created that whole he was canceled. I think that's a PR move for him. Right. Like, I thought more people were watching him and some people were mad, but so what? Like, more people are watching. Rife's joke that people got mad at was a Borscht Belt joke.

But it was a street joke. It was a joke that people have done before. It was a domestic violence joke, but it's a domestic violence joke that has been told again. Like to me, I see a joke like that. I remember thinking it wasn't that like original of a joke either. No, it's been done a thousand. It's been done by like horrific dads throughout since the beginning of time. Like it was basically like you don't have to tell her twice type of thing. It was a woman in the kitchen domestic violence joke.

Which is like, I go, okay, like, I don't know what we're talking about here. You know, like I was like, I just like, like if someone's mad at that, like I can understand it.

I don't think they were there for him in the first place. Like, I think like he then says they're coming after me, which everyone feels they're being come after. I think we're all listening to the commenter, the one that hit. And also commenters are really good at making you feel bad because we go online and we make ourselves vulnerable just by putting ourselves out there. So they know exactly what to say to make you feel bad. When you're vulnerable with someone, they have the cheat code to making you feel bad. So,

The reason we all talk about commenters so much is because, like, they're really good at what they do. You know? They are. Look, for unpaid workers, look, they are very good at it. They're professional. Right. But also, you need the commenter. If there's no one commenting for good and bad, that kind of means no one's listening. Right.

Right. Which is annoying because I don't— They're the fossil fuel. Right, right. But it's like I don't want to have to be controversial. Not that this is something I would ever really—like, I'm not—that's not how I, like, think about things. But it's like I don't want to have to piss people off so more people would know me. We were talking about this over text, but, like, the idea of, like, a Joe Rogan for the left. And I was like, well, all these guys—the reason there's so many, like—

white men doing Joe Rogan ish stuff is like, you know, there's a draw to that say outrageous things that you don't even believe in. Like I, I, I listen, I've over the course of doing, I've been doing comedy 14 years. I've made jokes that I would never make again. I've met, I've done bits that I wouldn't do now. What I've been trying to do the past three years mostly is like, I'm like, do I care about this thing?

Do I, is it personal? Do I want to talk about it every night? That's like my three things that I look at when I'm like thinking of a joke and, or thinking of a bit. And you saw the set I'm doing now. That's stuff I love talking. I talk about my family in it. There's stuff about body. December 7th. December 7th. We're taping a special with Betches. Very excited. It's going to be good. It's called The Family Plan. We gave it a name. But also, and I say it in the set, I go, I only make fun of people I know or hope to meet.

And I only tell stories that are true. And this is something that I take pride in. It's harder to do. But when I see people talking about these hot subjects that are hashtags, there's an incentive to going that way and having the hot opinion on things.

And people only care that you're talking. Like I had people that, oh, so you go safe. Someone was like, I was like, I talk about my family. Oh, so you're a safe comedian. I'm like,

I don't think there's anything more safe than talking about politics right now. You know who agrees with you, you know who doesn't agree with you, you know who you're making mad, you know who's with you. They treat it like a sports team so they'll get all excited for you about it. Right. You know, call the bad man bad, and if you insult your team, you end up like Bill Maher. Right. And then you're in like the middle, and you're in this like reactionary group.

that people don't like because they don't, like, toe the line. You've sold out in that way. Everyone thinks everyone's a sellout, which is, like, crazy. Or a paid Fed. Well, they just want to discredit anybody who is, especially in the influencer world, it feels like, especially, you know, this last year, anybody who started to move into professionalizing or started to sort of, like, believe that you could do this, they're like, no, the fuck, you can't Fed. You know, and it's like a... Again, that's a commenter who, like,

how to get you. Well, the call-out content has become, was, I don't think it is as much anymore, but it was like its own thing, like doing the best clapback or being a call-out or an accountability creator. I think those people are very sad. What was an accountability creator? Where they make up like wild lies about me and then they're like, I'm holding you accountable. I've never even heard of that. I've never even heard of an accountability creator. Isn't it stressful? Going back to Joe Rogan and what his genius is, it's not necessarily that he's like a super smart guy who knows how to do stuff. He just,

took the things that we all love to do and then monetized it. Like I could call Sammy and talk shit for three hours straight and have the best time. We should have just recorded that and then just unedited, throw it on the internet and we would be millionaires. Maybe that's what we do. Or like I love rehashing drama from like nothing or having an opinion about something I'm not an expert on. He just puts it out there. You bring up such a great point. You ever watch those people who have the VR on? Yeah.

And they're like going... They're like, this person has virtual reality and they're doing tightrope walking. And you're watching how scared they are. They believe...

I think, like, I think the left especially, but, like, we all, me, you, everyone, the way you're talking right now, we're all, like, the scared person with VR on. Like, we're all the person that's like, what if I fall over? And I think Joe Rogan, his power is that he knows that this is all virtual reality. None of it matters. He can fall off that wire, and he's going to be fine. And I think the people that are, like, really the most successful in that arena, like, they can just –

They cut, they go, the noise is the noise. I'm just going to fall off. It's virtual reality. Bash is cash, as Hill Talk told me. They were like, bash is cash. If you're getting canceled, you're about to get paid. You're going to get paid. But I do think it is that thing of like, when we talk about something on our show, we'll have people fact check us and we fact check all the politics we're doing, make sure that we got the policy and the date and all this stuff. And on the other side, they're like, you know what's fucked up?

taxes, man. We shouldn't pay him. Why do we pay him? Taxes are a theft. They are, right? And then all of a sudden that becomes like, and they're like, well, that's not true. And they're like, it doesn't matter. It was fun. You're so right because it was so funny. You watch all, and again, this is why I come on here and I go, I know nothing. I'm an idiot. And I truly believe that. No one expects you to be pretty and smart. You know what I mean? That's all I care about. So a compliment will get us everywhere.

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who are like, they almost know the whole constitution by word. And then the other person's like, who fucking cares, man? My freedoms. Yeah, like freedoms. Everything can be boiled down to states' rights and freedoms. Honestly, that's better marketing than walking someone down a logical road. Like if you think of marketing. I'm rethinking this whole show. I know.

I know. Maybe we just gotta... You know what? I've been thinking... You know what I want to do? Like, what I really considered doing, like, the next day after the election was, like, what if I just came out as a Trump supporter and did, like, a Stephen Colbert thing for the whole administration? Yeah. Just fake it. Well, how many people over years thought Stephen Colbert was, like, not a... That's what I'm saying. Right. Like, you would be beloved. Like... But...

people would get it. Like, I think maybe we should try to get in the cabinet. Should we be Trump supporters? Maybe we should try to get in the cabinet is what I think. You know, I think if we're just going to fuck around, I might as well be a part of the party. Why don't we pitch a new position? Podcast secretary.

Oh, we should. There you go. And then we will, we spend one hour with a white man. Look at the ideas we're getting. No, this is why you need more white men on a microphone. I'm telling you, we don't talk enough. I, I, I would like, I don't know. I just, it is so funny to me. Like I, I, it is, I think the biggest issue is like those people on the right, they just call you names and like that hurts and that's whatever. Yeah.

But the people on the left, if they get mad at you, they make you evil. And they find a way to make you, they find a way, a victimization that you didn't even think of, a version of what you said. And good people, nice people, thoughtful people like ourselves, like I think of myself, I am thoughtful. When I get a bad comment and someone says to me, you have offended me as this, this is the angle you weren't thinking of. I'm like, I spend the day just like,

throwing that around in my head going, Jared, you know, you should think of these things. And then I'm like, what an expense of energy that someone isn't doing. Do you know what I mean? That I'm like, I'm like, can't you just be happy that I'm here with you? You know, we might not agree on everything. I kind of like, you know, when people said defund the police, I'm like, that is

that is the dumbest marketing campaign I have ever heard. And I was like, and I'm like, I can't, you know, you hear something like that. You can't say that. Well, that's the thing. We should call police community reform. And people were like, no, defund the police. Because we never got to talk about it. We never got to talk

about the good stuff, right? Because all they heard was defund the police. So we never learned about violence interrupters or all the other cool stuff that they did. So yeah, it was a flop. And there's police officers that are like, you know, like, dude, what about me? I'm like, and also the internet, we only see the people that like agree with us completely. And then you see the crazies. Like, it's just too. And it's like, that's all you see. And it's like,

Again, to go back to traveling the country, I don't have issues at the show. And I'm not political, but I also have a part in the set where I talk about my dad asking me how much I weigh at the beach. And I'm like, for some people, asking someone how much they weigh...

in any scenario, is like the most evil thing in the world. And I say, I go, I'm not as liberal as you. And then you have someone, and I go, and then I go into my story. But when I say that, I kind of like have like a wincing moment where I'm like, every once in a while, not all the time, you would think just mentioning the word liberal would make, and when I say I'm not as liberal as you, you get someone in the crowd, ah!

Every once in a while. Not every time. And then I always say to them, I go, oh, good. We found the most horrific person in America. Like, for you to need the room of people in the middle of something that has not... You know, like, the point I'm making... Just on a date with your wife or something. Just having a nice night out. It's like, we're not at a rodeo. There's no pig getting lashed out. Like, it's like crazy. And I...

I don't know. It just, it makes me depressed. Honestly, like what you're speaking to and why you're afraid to like come on the show and Sally's comment, like all of that is very emblematic of why I think the Democrats lost this election. Right. Because they pushed

Right.

argument and then go wear your hat and go have fun. Right. Why not party? Yeah. Like, well, and also the person that would make you feel bad usually is like more well-read than me. Like, what am I going to do? I, you know, I'd rather be with the, well, fuck off, you know, like that guy. Cause like, I'm like, you know, and my parents voted for Trump. I'm sure of it. We haven't really talked about it. You know, I've tried to discuss with them,

The, you know, where I come from, where, and I do think most of political stuff is like, my personal opinion, there's like, it's the age thing more than it is the right, left thing. I don't know, even location. Like, I do think like, when I hear Pete Buttigieg talk, I don't think of that guy as like anything but just like a...

a government person who like really wants to make stuff happen. I don't think he's like sitting in this like identity thing. I think it's like, which really like, I do think is a part of it. Like, I do think like he's sitting there going, I got a road, I got to fix the road. And I think that's like where most airlines pay, right? Like, I think that's where most people lie. And I think that's like, we're like our generation lives. We're the, we're the Uber generation. We like efficiency. We want the Uber to show up at our door, you know? So like,

We want the government to work. And I think that things have become much more about like, oh, she's black. She's gay. And it's like, who cares? Who cares about that? But even the Trump thing, like that's why he's attractive to a lot of men too, because he goes into that, like, you know, I'm going to have the best people and we're going to fix it, you know? And that's it. And that's it. We're going

We're going to fix it. I don't know how, but we're going to fix it. And things are wrong. And then they're like, Kamala Harris, tell us the 12 steps to how you're going to fix it. And she would, and people would black out halfway through and be like, that's too much. I don't want to hear about this. Just say you're going to fix it. Just say I'm going to fix it. Well, I don't want your answer.

sir. And then she'd be like, I'll fix it. And they'll be like, well, how are you going to fix it? And she'll be like, well, stop talking later. I've got an opportunity agenda for, for black men. And they're like, well, what about the gays? And they're like, okay, well, we, she answered that one already, but like, it shouldn't be about like how badly that I'm not, I consider myself. It,

independent in whatever way that is. But like, I don't even know what that means anymore. I think what you want is what actually most people want, which is to live in a world where they are financially secure, physically safe and socially free. And you want to be left alone and you want to do your gambling and you want to watch your porn and you want to be able to access your birth control and you want to be able to go to a school where you don't get yelled at for like the things you say. I think most people just want sort of like a normal, smooth, fair,

fair life. Like, I think the 90s back really, if we could just get the Clinton administration back. I just want, I want like midterm Clinton. I want the biggest scandal to be that he got a blowy at the, at the, which is for what we deal with now, if the worst thing we were dealing with was like the president having some sort of extramarital fun time affair, like,

Also, he did take advantage of her, but she was into it. It wasn't like one of those things where it was like he is like forcing her into anything. It was the media that fucked her up. It was like everyone else that fucked her up. She and Bill could have had a beautiful life together. They could have just had their affair. Also, I love Monica Lewinsky so much. I love her. Since childhood, I've been a fan. Really? Yeah. I love her too. So after she did a Barbara Walters interview, I was like 12.

I broke my wrist that night. I was watching it in the hospital. This is why my mom could not believe I was a lesbian because at like 12, I watched the Barbara Walters interview of Monica Lewinsky talking about what had happened and she was wearing this red lipstick and I was just obsessed with it. And I made my mom drive me to New York City to Club Monaco to buy the red lipstick that she had worn. So she didn't think you were a lesbian because you were obsessed with Monica Lewinsky's lipstick? There was no idea that maybe there's like... Maybe you liked the lipstick for a different reason. Look at my

wife and look at Monica Lewinsky now. She's my type too. They're very similar looking, very beautiful brunettes. I'm with you. That's my type too. Very much. I think Monica Lewinsky's gorgeous. She's also my type. Gorgeous. And she's so smart and so cool. She's also Sammy's type. But I'm telling you, my mom was like, there's no way you're a lesbian. Remember the thing with the lipstick and you were obsessed with Monica Lewinsky? And I'm like, well...

Yeah, I do remember that. Have you read her wonderful pieces in Vanity Fair? Yes. She's a wonderful writer as well. First of all, the world missed out on Monolith. We could have had so much more. She was working in the White House. Yeah, this is a successful person at that age. Well, we did invite you. She's very beautiful now, too.

She's gorgeous. Well, this is why we asked you to be here. Is she married? No, she's single. We didn't necessarily ask Monica Lewinsky if you don't call this show right now. Available. So we know somebody who knows somebody. Honestly, you could make her laugh. I could try. Well, we asked you to be on the show because we wanted to know about what it's like for people who are single and dating in this post-apocalyptic political world. We didn't get to that yet, but now that we're on Monica Lewinsky and we found your type. It's time. The question is, as a guy existing in the world, some of...

my brother-in-law was like, I'm afraid that women are going to think I voted for Trump and be mean to me. And I'm like, okay. Did he? I don't know. No, he didn't. He voted for Kamala. Well, that's the thing. It turns into Diddy. You know what I mean? Like, it is interesting. But for you, like...

- Do you feel like, does politics, how much is politics infiltrating the dating world right now? - Well, I talked about my list of like why I would vote for Kamala. Top of the list was fucking. - Yeah. - You know? - Number one. - Rocky Lewinsky might date me if I vote the right way. - The walk-up poll. - We should have put her on the campaign trail. We would have got all the men.

That was the mistake. It wasn't not being far enough. It wasn't Liz Cheney. It's that we picked the wrong 1990s person. I wonder if they asked her. Maybe we could ask her if they asked her. If we get Monica Lewinsky on this show, I'm going to shut it down. We'll have you back. Do you think she probably gets the... Your whole life becomes about

that okay you know the ad that kamala it was like uh no one knows who you vote for yeah what they should have done was what you're just you just said women will want to fuck you see right yeah i mean that's how it worked with roe v wade right after roe i was at vidcon and the boys with the broccoli hair were like girls are gonna be scared of us and like what does this mean i was like condoms forever brothers condoms forever and they were like

But you got to find the way. You got to find the way for people. People's mind blown. They're like, I'm voting for Trump. Fuck. So dating, I would say it's very difficult because there's this like unsaid thing

And I don't think it comes out right away. Like who'd you vote for? I don't think, I think the people doing that are like, you know, awful. You know, I think when you go on a date with someone, especially from a dating app, you know, a little bit, but you don't know much. So like you kind of make a lot of assumptions. You see what they're coded and people, a little bit. People are very kind of coded now. I took out the fish. It's just me laying with a tiger. That's been drugged when I was in Nepal. Uh, no, I, I, I'm not on dating apps. It's been a while. Uh,

I got off in the summer. But you do have this thing where you meet people. And I would say, like, for me personally, like, if I'm speaking for my... Like, I don't get a lot of, like, who'd you vote for? I get more, what are your feelings on the Jewish shit? Oh, because you're dating the Jews. If I'm dating Jewish women, and I know that Jewish women my age are kind of...

freaking out online. You know, they feel a little bit turned on. You can see the posts. So they want to know if you would post Free Palestine? No. Do they know that you would never post about this issue at all? I posted like once after October 7th, but like, I think they want to know

that I'm as uncomfortable and unsure about it as they are. Like you're taking it serious. Like anti-Semitism is serious. Well, it's not anti-Semitism. Will you protect them from violence kind of thing? I think it's the like,

This is crazy, right? Oh, okay. I think it's way less... Do you think that anyone is not on that page? This is crazy. Well, I think it's like... Because, again, to go back to what can you say, what can't you say, your side getting mad at you. Like, liberal-leaning, nice people getting mad at you for being like...

I'll say a few things. And I'm not going to name names or anything, but, like, I've had people tell me that this is the best time to, like, Jewish date. Because people are more, like, into their Jewish culture. They're, like, they want to be amongst Jews. I'm giving you a... That is a thing. It's a thing. I...

Less about like free assimilation kind of. Like people who are Jewish are more connected to their own Judaism, so they want to be with Jews. It's just like it feels like a more – like become more insular a little bit. Right. The cultural stuff. Yeah, like it matters more because there's like a safety with like – Right, and I think the –

the opinion too of like, like, I understand why someone would have a problem with Israel. I also want Israel to exist. So like, that's a very, I've now opened myself up with that opinion to anger from everyone.

Both sides of that issue. And I had, I got all the DMs. I got all the DMs. You haven't said enough. You haven't said enough for either side. Like I was getting yelled at by all sides and me, a comedian who, and getting told again to go back to like getting paid off a paid fed, you make money off of talking about your Jewishness. How could you? And I got so angry at some of these people. I would write back to them. It was a lot of women, but I have female following. So that's what's going to, that's kind of by the nature of the numbers. But yeah,

It was a lot of people writing me, and I would write back to some of them. I'd go, you should show this to your mother and let her know that you're attacking another Jew going through the same thing as you. Again, to go back to dating, you'd be on dates with girls, and again, I go out with a lot of Jewish women. Were they lucky? I thank Hashem every day. So I go, and there's...

There's this just like feeling out. And I think that's like an example of other examples. Like a Trump voter, not a Kamala voter. Where do you stand? You know, and I had one time I was on a, I was having drinks with a woman and I wear a chain. I'm not wearing it now, but I was, I was my...

My grandfather passed away. He had a high that was like, and then it was in my, my dob kit. I never wore it. Then I found like a chain. I was like, maybe I'll wear this. This was like pre, pre any. Pre 10-7. Pre 10-7. So I was wearing it and like this woman, like she like, what's on your chain? And it was a high. And she was like, oh my God. And you could tell she was like totally moved. She's marrying you in her head. What's a high? It's like a, what would, how would you explain it? It's like a, like a little, it's off the start, but it's like. It's a similar.

It's just... It's like Hebrew butter. It's a symbol of life. Oh, like... Okay. Yeah. It's a symbol... It's like... No, that's a hamster. It looks like an N. I'll show it to you. The letter. It's a letter with, like, a little... And it just means... It means life or 18 or... It was my grandfather's. So, like, I wore it more to, like, remember him than anything else. Yeah.

wearing a cross. It's not... It's similar. Which I also think is, as you know, strange. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like a huge... Why put the murder weapon on the pennant? Since I was a kid, I would look at it and be like... It's an interesting take. Yeah, you're right. And they're like, well, because we have to remember the sacrifice. I was like, how could you forget? It's everywhere. Like, why not have... Like, I like the Jesus face ones, because I'm like, okay. But the cross has always made me very like, wow, the murder weapon. Face ones kind of look like you're entering...

like an Italian villa. Yeah, which I love. You know how they have like those ghostly faces? Yeah, my family's Romani. We like all the golds. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. She took it and she kissed it passionately. Like this was like, and I'm like looking around and I'm like. She thinks it's like the Torah coming down the aisle. Kind of. And I was sitting there like, I can't believe this is going to get me blown. Yeah.

You could vote for Kamala or you could wear a high. Yeah. One or the other, you know, but I didn't even know what it meant to that. And it was, but I've seen a reaction to it with women that I'm like surprised by because it wasn't the intent. This isn't me trying to like fool or, you know, manipulate. But I do think that's like the nature of dating right now where it's like,

Do we align on this unsaid thing? Am I dealing with a crazy person? Because all we see is crazies. And it's like more people are closer to the middle. Like when someone's like, can I date someone from the other side of the aisle? I'm always like,

I can't speak to that. I think if you've met each other and gone out, you've met each other. And a normal person, like for someone to just be a team of anything, like I'm always like a little like that's a little tough for me. It's like a slice of the pie. And I think that it's like what you're saying is that people are looking at it as like that takes over their whole pie.

And for most people, it doesn't. The other thing that you're saying is like I think people assume that their opinions are going to be fixed forever. When you can change your feelings on an issue, on a political party, as the culture changes. Personally, I have. I definitely was like small government. It became taboo. I think you probably still are small government. Right. But I'm saying like the taboo was like, oh, I'm fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Oh, yeah. Now you can't say that anymore. That's bad.

Yeah, that's gone. That left with Romney. Right, that is like, you can't say that. That's like evil to say. But I am. I would like to think that I am those things, but then you go, it becomes so much more complicated. With dating, that used to be something you could say in dating and be like, enough said, move on. Moderate on your profile became more conservative. Well, moderate means my parents still pay my cell phone. That is... I think you could... Everything is maximized, right? So if somebody says, would you date a Trump supporter?

they're thinking of like red hat rally, hate women, Christian, want nine kids off you, like women should be in the kitchen, ballerina farm type stuff, right? Totally. They're not thinking of like –

Well, my dad voted for Trump, so I voted for Trump because I didn't really know a ton about it. And it's just kind of like how it went. And if you took the time to let them know, you know, maybe next time we don't do that or do you actually believe these things or whatever, like it'd be different. But it's so funny you said that because like months ago I noticed my dad was like putting together like his own speech.

on like why he's going to vote for Trump. And he was like kind of working it out. Workshopping it in a different. Workshopping it. Like, and it was very funny to watch because he's like, you know, I don't agree with his opinion. And he was workshopping how to be a member of his community where he knows people disagree with him and are going to vote differently than him and how to soften that to not be evil amongst his friends.

And it was actually kind of sweet. Like, you know, like he cared enough about his comfort around him. He knew who agreed with him. He knew who didn't agree with him. He knew the people. You know which points you're going to bring up. Oh, I like his Israel. I like his taxes. It's like, oh, those people care about money. Those people care about Israel. How do I make myself not evil and not the red hat wearing? And again, that is a change. He has now come back.

closer than he was maybe four years ago to not. He would never say that, but like,

That's what happened with my dad. He voted for Trump in 2016, did not vote for him in 2020 for his daughter who like, he's like, look, nothing matters more to me than you getting off my back. All right. I'm not going to go vote then. And then we're going to be fine. Right. That's as far as I'll come. Deal's a deal. And then this time voting for Kamala because he was so proud of me. And also because he wanted this to be over. He's like, I just want this magazine to be over with. I want to get back to my golf.

game and my buddies and not dealing with it. Well, that's so funny too because I was talking. I did my own kind of post-election podcast on my Patreon. I was like, I'll keep it. I'm a subscriber. Similar to the... Thank you. I said I go, if I'm to make this whole vote personal on my list, one of the things on the top of the list was like, during Trump's last thing, I would have to take days off from comedy to respect the feelings of whatever...

whatever group was going through a day, you know, like where then I would be yelled at by some person because I wasn't taking whatever the day was seriously. And I was like, again, you've affected my bottom line. If we want to make it about money, I don't want to take days off of work because of the social climate that has been created. Right. Like grieving. Why is this happening?

This grief of the week. Right. I think your dad and I are probably very similar in that sense. He's like, I just want my golf game back. He's like, I'm a girl dad. I love my wife. Right. I don't even want to deal with this. Can't we just go back to, again, the 1990s Clinton time? Right. He was fine with that. Do you want to know why we're perfect as a generation? Because that was our time. We grew up in the secure, safe 90s, stock markets going up. Well-

You have your liberal values, your neoliberal values are at their peak.

Jews are accepted. But we grew up also with World War II grandparents, which I think is something that I've recently come to understand was incredibly impactful to me, which was like, don't be an asshole and don't be a Nazi. Don't be a Nazi was important then. We knew that they struggled either to come here and there was some sort of privilege in being an American that you didn't have to be ashamed of, that you felt like your family had somehow earned this right and you were expected to be a successful American. Yeah.

And now, you know, they don't have that kind of like, I really looked up to my grandparents and what they went through. And I didn't want to disappoint them. They also can't speak to people. I think there's, I think because we also had, we grew up in person. Like we grew up, no phones. Like you had to learn how to look people in the eye, how to have a conversation with an older person, how to like call your friend's parents and be like, hello, may I please speak to so-and-so. Write a letter. Write a letter, put a stamp on. Right, if you said, okay, boomer, they'd be like, what the fuck?

that would never, you know. And then as we were, physically punished. And then as we were like getting older and into like young adulthood, we then had the internet. So we actually know how to use the internet, but we know that like there are real people on the other end that you can't just yell at them for no reason and you seem like an asshole and you actually have to like

have something real to back it up in person. Right. And like real relationships with people. It's funny. Like on the, on the dating side of it, like I do, I roll these people that I like meet out at bars or, you know, in a dating sense where they're like, now they have this like hot take on,

this like anti, like what I, like, like you said, like I, you know, grandparents, like you're American. There's a little bit of like salute the flag. There's a little hokiness to that, that I like, you know, like, and that I grew up in and I don't really like,

I don't hate my childhood. Like, I liked growing up in a suburb. But then the hot take person, you see a lot. And this is the person who has privileges just like me, who has, in their mind, they've taken the side that's right. And then they're telling me how awful...

that I am is to my face. Like how awful the suburbs were and how... Redlining was still a... It is, but that doesn't like... That I was sheltered and how sheltered I... And they're saying it to my face and it's a little insulting. But also like...

Okay, so why do they need to say it? Because they think it's cool. They think it's an interesting point of view, and it's not. But why can't you both be aware that you had that, that there are great things that happened then, and then also that America's imperfect and has always been sort of imperfect? Can we hold both? Part of the reason we lost men and people like my dad for a long time is that, you know,

we've talked about it. Maybe it wasn't such a great idea to say all men are trash for 15 years. He was like, I hate when you say that. I wore, I had a t-shirt one time that said feminism is the future. And my mom was like, that really hurt your brother's feelings. Cause he feels left out. And I was like, okay, I think it hurt us in this election, but it is this idea of like telling someone like my dad or my brother, you have privilege when they do, but they also both,

I worked in factories and my dad would like bring in a, I needed stuff for cheerleading. So my dad's going to bring in a car and fix it up and make sure he makes an extra couple hundred bucks so that we could pay for cheerleading stuff. And then you tell him he has privilege and he's like, I fucking worked so hard for you to have like comfort. And I don't want to be ashamed of that. Right. It's like existential, you know, like as opposed to real. And it's like, everyone can like, you know,

I think you have to have time to talk about the existential. You know, like when you're just living. Right, when you need a Joe Rogan-length podcast. Well, and they're listening to it while they're at work or driving a truck or doing whatever, and they're like, man, this is my America. Well, the other piece is that like if someone said all men are trash and then you as just a woman having, anyone having like a conversation, like, oh, I actually know some nice men who aren't trash and whatever. No, Sammy, you're a pick me. You're a pick me. Right, right, right. And you're a girls, girls.

Sammy. Right. Shut up. Everyone who's like, yes, some men are trash. Like the culture really encourages bad behavior, but not everyone does it. When we started you up, I'll never forget it. I was doing J train podcast for taking emails, giving advice. You guys would come on the show.

And I loved having you guys on. And we answered the emails. And I always said, I was like, if we can just get... It was all men, remember? Like when it first started. Because men listen to podcasts before women did it. And then the Murder Mystery podcast came out. And that's when women started getting involved with podcasts. And I remember it. Now I feel like old man Jared. I remember when we started in the other office, the UUP. And I was like...

I had been kind of like working, you know, the J train was kind of this version of you up at first because it was like, I was kind of like working out my, my point of view, like on dating and, and how to talk about it. I'm sure if I listen back to that, I'm like cringing as I would listen to it. But then, and, but I, at the time it felt right. Then I remember we go on and we did the first episode and I'm like, I've got all my like lines.

and I'm like ready to talk about dating. And then I got done and I was like, oh my God, these women are going to hate me. I was like, they're going to be like so mad because I was just being honest. Like I was like, I'm giving my honest perspective on dating. I never mean for it to make someone feel bad, but I do understand how people feel bad from hearing from, you know, honesty and stuff. And I'm like, fuck. And I got to say like, it's crazy over the years how small, how little negative feedback there is

I've gotten to being honest about dating. And it's like, it was like refreshing. And I'm like, almost like,

you know, I kind of feel badly that I like, didn't respect the audience enough to think that like, they could like take what I was like saying. But then I think that's a lot of like this idea of like, I'm going to get in trouble. I'm going to, you know, coming on you up was like, it was a revelation for me that like, we can have a discussion. We can, you can hear about the icky take, you know, a guy is going to be icky in the same, in a different way that maybe women will be icky with dating.

But all of it's icky. You know, like, and life is a little icky. Well, it's like you're still going to get icky rejected. Well, you just don't know the icky reason. Right. Well, that's the thing. Like, oh, you skipped over a puddle. Yeah. Is a little, like, coded in old school man not acting manly enough. But, like, just is. You know, like, what are you going to do? You know, you move on to a different person who doesn't mind how you skip over a puddle. Like, you know, like...

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Do you worry about being content when you're going on dates? Because I feel like up on my For You page, a lot of times I see women who are like secretly recording themselves on a bad date or go in the bathroom and they're like, I got, this guy is terrible. Or they're just, they're really spilling in a way that's like extremely exploitative, not fair to the other person. It's funny how it's flipped. And it's like for content. No, it's flipped. In the beginning, I would go on dates and oh, my content, the people always say that to me. And I would always like,

I like to think, and I've made mistakes, don't get me wrong, but I like to think that I'm leaving out enough information that it's a story about me, where it's a story about how I felt in a moment where something happened. And it's never meant to make that. I do understand that if someone hears me tell a story that they're involved in, they get red-faced and flush, and they go, oh my God, he's giving his like,

Honest opinion of me? Honest opinion of what happened. You know, like where you get like a softened opinion on a date. And this happened once. I'll tell you the story. It was actually crazy. But now it's affected me because now I know from doing the U Up for so long, I know all the...

the ways a guy can act badly and how that makes someone feel or not all of them, but a lot of them. And every time I've answered a question, it's like what I have done or what I would do. So like, I've been every guy in all these situations. So like now I'm seeing like when I'm like going towards the road of like,

I'm texting less and I'm like, what is this person thinking of me? And then you see these videos on TikTok where it's like story time. I went out with so-and-so and he did that. And I'm like, that does weigh on you a little bit because like, again, like. I feel like that's really been a hindrance for you. It is. As a listener of you up and, you know, talking to you is that I do feel like it's hard for you. Like I feel that I, I feel the lack of trust that you have in the public. Yeah.

and I don't blame you because it's like- And I don't want to be that. I don't want to- It's not a blaming. It's a little paranoia. No, it's not, though. I think it's pretty legit because we hear about it from the TikTokers who are like-

I wish I knew that being popular on TikTok would mean no one would ever truly love me because they're either dating me for content and to like get some sort of dirt on your favorite TikToker or they, they only like me because they think I could like boost their profile or there's some sort of like a, you know, menagerie to it. I've never had that. It's more that I, I guess my nervousness comes from, I always feel like when I'm on a date. He was an asshole to me. Yeah. He, he, yeah, he,

He was an asshole to me. He was an asshole to me. And because I don't think I'm an asshole. I do think that someone out there is like, this piece of shit Jared gives dating advice. Fuck him. But also like every man, like I think most, many women, when it doesn't continue going the way they want it to,

You can say to yourself, oh, he was kind of an asshole. You can look for things that were asshole-ish. Sure. And you can convince yourself they were an asshole. And all you need is one, like, person who's going to be like, I don't really care about the consequences, and I will embellish. Right. Because honestly, like, we have people embellish, like, literally lie about interviews that they did here. Lie.

There's three sides to every story. And that's an old saying. There's three sides. Your side, my side, and the truth. It's somewhere in the middle. So like, I do understand that. But like, again, like that goes back to the VR, like being, you have to act as if you know that it's not real. Yeah.

But I think the bigger concern for me is, and I had this happen when I ended a relationship that was like a long-term relationship, is that I include everything in my life. Like I talk about everything. So like if I include someone that I'm dating in my life, they're getting included in my social media and my podcasts and stories that I would tell. That I have a fear of going. That's been the reoccurring thing of like taking the next step towards they

are somehow brought into a reality that they didn't sign up for. But they did sign up for it, but I don't think... That's why we keep Avi and Natalie out of shit. Because I got to go home. And I want to go home and just be Natalie's wife. I don't want to go home and be like, all right, babe, we got to make content. If you and Natalie broke up, Everard,

you know, God forbid you'd have, it'd be crazy. It's a whole nother dimension. Yeah. It's like, Oh, what were you lying about before? Was everything like, Oh, and it's not even, and it's not even that you don't trust Natalie to like, not, it's just what people go on their own after you like crazy. I once went on a date and I, I've, I'm talking about this again because I've

I've already talked to them about it. They brought out a picture of someone they thought I looked like. And I was like, Oh, that's the worst. Right. Never tell me I look like somebody else. I don't want to hear it. No, it's never good. It's never flattering. In her defense, she was like, you have the same vibe and you kind of look like, and I look at the picture and I was like, I can't even go into it. I'll show you. Gerard Butler. No, no, no. It was, it was like their friend. I go, this is like, I go in my, so I thought it was a great red flag deal breaker because I'm like,

I can go on the podcast and be like red flag deal breaker. And I have a story to go with it. So we do it and we discuss it. And I try to discuss it in the most 360 degree way where I'm like, listen, you could look at a picture of me and think, fuck that guy. Like in the same way that I was like, no one wants to hear who they look like. Right. No. Except if you're, you know, Timothy Chalamet and you're showing up to the Timothy Chalamet lookalike contest. So, which is about to win $500. But those are,

fun reasons you're acting in. Don't show me a picture of someone I look like because it's going to be Rosie O'Donnell or Rachel Maddow or any other lesbian with short hair and I don't look like them at all. You know the hits. Every time. And you know that sometimes someone's doing it to bring it down a notch. Sometimes they genuinely think it's a compliment. I've never told someone that they look like someone to bring them down a notch.

So she shows you a picture of her friend and is like, you have eyes like this guy. This is like you. And I go, and I'm like on a date and I'm like, oh, now I don't even like her taste. She likes me. Then like months go by and I'm at a bar and like, she's like, so-and-so isn't ugly. And I'm like, what? And she's like, I, I listened to the podcast and that guy is not, I go, I didn't say he's ugly. I said, I,

I don't think it's fun to be told who you look like on a date. And now we're like doing red flag deal breaker, her and I. In real life. In real life. And she goes, it was so funny because she was with a friend who was kind of drunk and it was like the most annoying scenario because she's going, if I said you look like Brad Pitt, you wouldn't care. I go, I don't look like Brad Pitt. And I go, also, everyone has decided he's good looking. Like we don't have to, that's enough said. And then the friend who's a little drunk goes, it wasn't a match. It wasn't a match. And I'm like,

She's like Jewish mothering it. It wasn't a match. Why did the illusion go the way it did? It wasn't a match. Well, this is why I feel so lonely. Like I would say as like if you want to reduce me to a group, the straight white males, like the loneliness of a college, straight white college educated men. What is the loneliness come from? Well, you're either with, you know, you either sign up for

the right, and they go, come one, come all. Or you sign up for the left and you're kind of like told, like, shut the fuck up. And you're a cuck. You're lucky you're here. And you're a cuck by the other people, your friends who went the other way. And so you're a pussy by one group and you're a

A privileged pussy. And it's like, I told you with the special, like something I am proud of and I don't, I'm not, yeah, I'll pat myself on the back. When I go on the road, I bring female comics and I, I think it's a better show. So I'm doing that.

For me, I'm not doing that. And again, what makes a better show for me, having a female comic open, it's a well, more well-rounded show. The audience, it gets, you get all pieces of, of comedy. I think that, and, and the fact that in every woman that opens a,

and my shows, they are like, love your audience. It's an audience that they don't get to see a lot. Jared, you are such a delight. After spending an hour with a straight, white, college-educated man, I'm feeling, personally, just more confident. Do you feel better? Yeah, I've caught the vibes. I'm going to be more resilient in this year. I hope we get to spend more time together. I hope so, too. This was fantastic. You guys don't deserve the shit you get. No, it's a lot.

Me and Sammy are going to rename the show American Fever Dream. We're just going to be called the Pick Me Girls. Love straight white men. Yeah, the Pick Me Girls. You should call it the Joe Rogan Podcast. Oh my God, right? The Joan Rogan Podcast. That's going to be an improv group. There we go. There's no question. Why don't we start that show? Joan Rogan. Joan Rogan, all female improv team. Yes, and full NASCAR level sponsorship outfits and just talk shit about fucking nothing. We should just start that show.

Yeah. And they're like, is what they said true? And we'll be like, I don't care. I had fun. Fuck it. Look it up. Google it. Right. My friend, Adam Ray, he's actually doing an impression of Dr. Phil. Have you seen this? It's on Netflix. They made a special out of it. It's him interviewing Dr. Phil dressed as Dr. Phil.

It's very funny. He's very funny. He's very talented. That makes me think of it like Joan Rogan. Tell people where they can find you. At Jared Freed on all platforms except for TikTok where I'm the Wizard of Haas. And that's it. Yeah, the UOP podcast. Go listen. And also the special we're taping. Again, Betches and...

December 7th. December 7th, Tarrytown. You gotta come. It'll be coming out soon. It's so fucking funny. I saw it like a year ago maybe and I did not stop laughing. Thank you. Yeah, it's all personal stories about going to the beach with my parents. So I'm proud of it. Personal but universal. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, I think. Yeah, not just Jared at the beach with his parents. No, but everyone can understand. So thank you. It's so great to meet you in person. Yeah, great to have you. Thanks for being here. Until next time, I'm Vita Spear. I'm Sammy Sage. And this is American Fever Dream. Good night.

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