210 - USA Vs The World ft. Habitual Linecrosser & Cappy Army | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 210
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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined here today by my co-host, Mr. Eli Doubletap, our very frequent guest, Ethan, Mr. Habitual Linecrosser, and I believe for his second appearance, Chris Cappy of now Cappy Army, formerly Task and Purpose.

Maybe Call Me Cappy is on the table. We're going to say, just call me below. Might be Call Me, maybe. No, yeah. You need to start a new channel called Task and Purpose, and it's just about turtles. The whole channel is about fucking turtles. It'd be hilarious. Anytime anybody types in Task and Purpose, it just sends them there. But there's nothing but turtles. I'm mad just in that statement, though.

It's just breakdowns of blastoids from Pokemon. It's like, what the fuck? Welcome back, buddy. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it. We're excited. You got a whole new, you're taking that solo journey. You're about to. Doing the leap of faith, jumping off, going solo.

Not scary at all. I guess most people probably don't realize, but like, so what is the, I guess, what was the dynamic at the task and purpose channel? Cause for the longest time I thought you were like a one man show or two guy show. I had no idea. So for the longest time I was like a one man band for the first two years, I wrote, edited, produced, shot, uploaded all the content. And then after I proved that like, okay, there's something here, we're getting some views and

Then they started to invest. I got a full-time editor. Task and Purpose gave me like a ton of opportunity and always going to appreciate that.

Yeah, very grateful for that. But like you were you didn't like start out on your own out of the gate like you had like financial backing at the beginning or? Yeah. So a lot of people have that same question. They're like tons of people when I said I was leaving, they're all in the comments like I thought you own task and purpose. Right. And I like not at all, never owned task and purpose, didn't sell it like that was not what happened.

Like you said, I don't know if I honestly would have been huge on YouTube if they basically fronted that period of time. You know, like when your first...

You're putting out videos and they're getting like 300 views. Where it's a full-time job, but you're not making full-time job money. Yeah. So they were paying me a salary while I was getting like 300 views, a thousand views. And then after the first six months, a year, it started to become profitable, started to blow up. And then I got locked into a contract with them for like many years, producing content, making the show.

for them. But yeah, I had that financial backing in the beginning and it really was, it was huge. They let me like, they let me do whatever I wanted, which is crazy for a company to let you just,

say whatever you want put up whatever you want on the YouTube because when I got there their YouTube channel had 800 subscribers no one was putting anything on there so I was like hey can I upload stuff on here and no one said no so I took that as a yes which that's not like that's not life advice no that is

No, it's not. All right. Not that joke. I'm going to take that one. It's not getting out there. But like, okay. So once it started making money and really taking off, like the whole thing happened so fast for me. Um,

Yeah, I don't know. You had like Task and Purpose before. I think they focused more on meta, YouTube a little, but it was like articles, news articles, and then military. When I got there, it was so me and Patrick Baker, really close friend of mine, still friends, great dude from like Ranger Up days. We would just put up skits on Facebook because there was no YouTube. So we would just put up like funny videos on Facebook and stuff and

And those would get some attention. And it was mainly – Task and Purpose was a website and an Instagram. And they would do all these articles. They also – they have somebody at the Pentagon, Jeff Shogle, amazing correspondent at the Pentagon, asking questions to the top people at the Pentagon. And their website put out like really important articles and stuff.

And the YouTube side has always been very separate from the website side though. Yeah. Had its own like voice and perspective. So that dynamic also gets to a point where like you, it makes sense to split at a certain point.

And yeah, I mean, you really dialed it into, you're doing up to two a week, correct? For a long period of time. For the last three years, we were doing basically like two mini documentaries. Yeah. And you're as a dude. I wasn't even here for his podcast. You got him to quit his job. Way to go. I learned from the best. He showed up one time. I don't want to say I could be unprofessional. I'm going to roll around in the mud with the rest of these degenerates. I got to hang out with three retards. That was amazing. Yeah.

I quit. But it was you two a week is ridiculous. And the level of work, I mean, Nick is once a big one, like once every two fat electricians a month and two fat files a month. So it's once a week, but

the fat files are you know they're like 10 to 20 minute videos whereas the fat electrician ones are like 45 to hour plus but the amount of research that goes into it and then the amount of detail you go into and the amount of information that you are able to absorb and maintain has all i remember i i texted you once i was like how do you do it and you're like just good at it man be better get good build different

No, but it's really impressive what you do. My situation is a little bit different. In order to pump out that amount of content, I work with the team very closely that I could not do what I do at that pace without these guys. And a lot of them are coming with me. When they found out I was leaving...

They were like, hey, can we come with you? So Mike, Mike Alides, he's my head of creative – head creative producer. And a couple of my researchers are also with me on Cappy Army. So this team is just really amazing people that I could not do it without. When does that actually go live? When are you rolling out the first – Saturday. No shit. Oh, that's like –

And it'll be the video on Saturday is going to be a full explanation because I feel like the audience has they've given me so much over the last six years. And it's been my relationship with that community has driven and built that show. And I'm appreciative of that. And I feel like I kind of owe them like an explanation of, hey, this is what happened. Like, I love Cat Task and Purpose. Keep watching them. Here's a full rundown of sort of like what's

how we grew the channel and where we're going in the future. Cause there's things like there's things I want to do and invest in and that I really couldn't do under task and purpose. And there's ways I wanted to like incentivize my team and make sure that they get paid what they expect to get paid.

And, you know, when you're working for a company, you're not in control of the goals. You're not in control of the compensation. So I like, yeah, I needed to take on the risk in order to do that. But yeah, I think you're doing it the right way. And it is a lot of those companies. It is a weird mindset. And I think they are learning. You had like Donut Media and a couple others, but it is, hey, we'll build this in an individual. And then that brand is now your identity. And then

Yeah. The company usually doesn't realize how important that is. It'd be like Fat Electrician if that was owned by an electrician company. And then you're like, I'm out. Nick out. They'd be like, fuck, dude. You could go anywhere else. That channel would be like,

Donut Media is for fun you bring them up so one of the things I'm very grateful for is that they linked me up like I got to be mentored by the CEO of Donut Media really smart dude very appreciative of that he taught me how to like okay how are we going to take this once a week thing and make it a twice a week thing and you know double that ad inventory and think about it more of as like a business because when I was doing a one band band thing

I just only thought of it as like, cool, I got a green screen behind me and like, I'm just gonna, you know, I don't want to worry about business and money side of things, but you can't, you know, I got, I had to grow up a little bit. And then the stress comes. Yes. Why did I do so many businesses? That was stupid.

Well, at least what's your first video rolling out for Saturdays other than the explanation? That's the why I left to ask and purpose video on Saturday. And then after that, we're going to be hitting people in the teeth, straight in the teeth with geopolitics, weapons rundowns, and just good old fashioned war. I don't envy your comment section. No.

Covering current event geopolitics. Gaza! Bro, it's... Hamas and Jews! Everybody's got very strong opinions on places they can't spell. Yeah. I can barely pronounce them. You know I'm right.

It is so true. I can't spell that word, but I have very strong opinions about it. And fuck you if you disagree with them. And I know they would respect my opinions if I went there. It's like, a lot of people just never went to a third world country or experienced war. If you don't, then you have this weird mindset that everyone is like a typical American, kind, friendly, or they respect your life or any of that. That can go out the window.

Fucking lickety split. Lickety. Geopolitics sucks, man. Like I even tried, like I had to throttle back on some of the things that I say because people have such strong feelings in the world. And geopolitics is, I mean, mine is just comedy and satire and stuff like that. But you like break it down cold, hard facts. Like this is exactly what's going on. I do not envy you, man. I do not. That's why I like history. I get it. They're like, this guy killed a lot of Nazis. Everybody's like, yeah. Yeah.

Man

Did the Jews deserve it? Jesus. Stalin, not that bad. I would like that. That should have been your April Fool's video. You just do a pro, like pro-communism. All the good ideas Stalin had. Four second video. That's yeah. Black bang out. Fucking the end. Open an empty book and then shut the video off.

I actually, now that everyone's here, you guys, how did you meet each other? I think we ran into each other at SHOT Show one year, and then we just messaged back and forth. Yeah. It got hot and heavy pretty quick. I was fucking shit-racked. Same. I remember... Drunk Nick's my favorite. I was very drunk.

Eli. Hey. How you doing, bud? You're a good guy. I'm like, Nick's hugging. He's happy, right? He's the happiest kind of stripper. I'm telling you, when you get Nick a little bit tipsy, just take him to IHOP at 3 a.m. You're fine. It's true. Yeah. He's a simple man. I haven't shit at IHOP this trip yet. Yeah. Yeah, you haven't. We're going to do that tonight. We can make that happen. We're going to IHOP so you can shit there tonight? Mm-hmm. Okay. So we got different...

history segments. I want to know each one of your different favorite wars or moments in history because they're going to be different, I'm assuming. Because yours is World War II, Nick? I mean, probably. That's where you like fucking hammer it. I want to say World War II because there's a lot of really interesting things that happened in World War II. However, the more I learn about aircraft, Desert Storm is just a symphony of destruction. It's beautiful what Schwarzkopf did. It's gorgeous. See you.

You talking any time in history? Like, current events? You can do current events if you like. If you like now, war, yeah. I mean, I like Assyria. I do. You know what I like about Assyria is you talk about how, like, okay, geopolitics can be, like, it can be a third rail, like, it's a hot topic, but Syria, everyone can get behind the fact that, like, fuck ISIS. That's fair, actually, yeah. Yeah. So true. What about you, Eli? I don't know. World War II. I like, well, I actually like the old...

If it's American history, World War II, just crazy. Just that mindset, actually putting yourself in that position where you're riding in a boat at, depending on age, 13 to 20, and then you're just heading towards a beach. Bullets are whipping by, hitting, and then you're just dismounting, running into it. Or you're in Iwo Jima doing the exact same thing. Or jumping out of a fucking airplane that's getting lit up. All that is wild. And then Japanese history, like the Edo era,

Was Toshiro, not, Nobunaga, like his rise to power and then how he almost unified Japan and then Yoshi, I forget his name, Yoshi. He then unified it and it was just a farmer that managed to get that much power into that prestige and you unify an entire country. That was a very big war country. That never went away until...

two suns came out yeah I was like two reset buttons hit some pretty important channels and that reset that warrior mindset real f***ing fat we go from warrior mindset to sun twice anime babymetal I love how

I love how isolated Japan was from the rest of the world, like, for a long... Like, it's just fucking crazy. It's just, like, the era that's never going to happen again. You know what I mean? It's just the era of discovery of, like, we've unlocked the whole map at this point. Like, we know it all. We've seen it all. But, like, just the idea of, like, just some dude on a fucking pilgrim on a wooden boat rolls up. He's like, what are you guys doing? Oh, you're wearing pottery and chopping each other's...

Heads off. All right. This is wild. What the fuck? Why did he do that? No, he dishonored his lord. What did he quit? Fire him. Better. I have a... I just have... Like, I don't even know how to explain. I have a fascination with, like, animals and discovery of animals where it's like... Imagine being an explorer and, like, rolling up on Australia and...

And there's giant dog bunny kangaroos hopping around. You're like,

Do I even tell anybody about this? Or are they going to burn me for being a witch? Like, they're going to put me in an insane asylum. Like, you know, the fucking, like, the platypus. The platypus. There was, like, people that had documented the platypus. And people thought that they were just full of shit and lying. Like, it was Bigfoot. For, like, 40 years, it was, like, a mythical creature. Like, a fucking, what's the rabbit with the deer antlers? Jackalope. Jackalope. They thought it was, like, a jackalope type thing. For, like, 40 years. And then they caught one alive. And they were like, holy shit.

It has a needle and it has poisonous claws. Venomous claws. Venomous dew claws. It lays eggs, but it's a mammal. Yep. It has a duck bill. Yep. That is... It has a duck bill and it's older than a duck. So technically a duck has a platypus bill. See, I didn't know about that. Yeah. Like the, whatever the... It's like the big man upstairs with like putting animals everywhere. Just had some leftover parts and he's like...

I love those tweets. The tweet where it's like God inventing animals and talking to the angel. Alright, I want a bug. Give it like eight legs, like 17 eyes. And you're like, gosh, you're getting crazy with this one. Give it an ass rope. It's like that one. I want 100 legs. It's like two...

insects they don't have any distinct form and they're like i want to be long and skinny so i was like boop and he's like i want lots of legs so and there are two millipedes like yay and he's like what's your third wish and one's like more legs and other ones like teeth and then there's centipedes you've seen how big they terrify me they're poisonous they will murder shit like centipedes and the giant ones that are like the size of your arm yeah fuck off did you know a couple years ago they discovered a new spider in australia i'm not

Making this up, right? Like I watched this guy on Instagram and he's like breaks down different animals and shit all over the world. Like mostly it's Australian shit because I don't know if you know, like

Dude, they got jellyfish that are this big that'll, like, send you to the afterlife. Yeah, no, it's like the beta of new animals on Earth. It's really... Like, all the new animals spawn from there. Yeah, dude, but... That is not where you want to be born. You're like, ah, what a beautiful land. Everything kills you. Dude, it's insane. So, like, the wandering spider is, like, one of the most venomous spiders in existence. I believe it might be the most. But it's, like, I don't know, they're, like...

Two-ish inches. I mean, it's a big fucking spider, don't get me wrong. The new species is a wandering spider that is three times the size of the previous one. And guess where it's at? Australia. The rest of the world's like, you know, coming up with buildings and technologies and Australia's just playing Ark Survival Evolved. Like, fuck that thing. That's why I live in Iowa.

Yeah, maybe- It's cold there. Guess what can kill you? Nothing except for your own stupidity. Centipedes are the only thing on this planet that scares me worse than a fucking spider. And I had one crawl across my foot one time. Millipedes don't have teeth. No, that's fine. That's not gonna fucking, like, that's not that thing. That is that on steroids. Centipedes are just angry little fucking just- There's no other way. They're armored, angry fucks. Like, that's all they are. They're hard to kill. They're-

angry as shit. They're the bug version of a honey badger. That's what they are. United States is the best. We don't have that much. Well, never mind. We had that black widow in the garage the other day. There was a big black widow. I was like, oh, hi. What's up, black widow? Oh, wolf spiders don't bug me. But when they bite you, they take like a chunk, right? No, I think you're thinking of brown recluse. That's the one. And those are poisonous. Yeah. Tissue necrosis.

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One of the most painful stings on the planet. What they do is they hunt tarantulas, sting them. The tarantula is paralyzed, still alive. They drag the tarantula into a hole, lay an egg on it, and then the egg surgically eats all the parts of the spider to keep the spider alive as long as humanly possible. And then finishes it off and goes and finds a new fucking spider once it's grown up. It's terrifying. Like, why is that here, Australia? Like, you shouldn't have just... The most terrifying thing that could happen is just insects just...

instantly become like 20 times the size of like man size. Oh yeah. That'd be hilarious. I mean, even that would be terrifying. This is America. You think I won't shoot? Fuck.

8-6 blackout at a giant ladybug? You're wrong. You get the one peaceful insect. What have you said? You shoot that one? This is the part that bothers me about... This just executes... This is the part that bothers me about Jurassic Park. Everybody's like, oh my god, what if there were giant monkeys? They're still susceptible to fucking bullets. You know what I mean? Like, I need a...

20 millimeter rifle to kill a t-rex the fuck you do oh that's a great point in all those dinosaur movies there's never like a bradley with a 30 mic mic not even that there's never just like there's never just billy bob with a 12 gauge and a raptor runs a pow no not a single fucking time

Although in, what was it? The third one, old boy. He had a 45 70. He had the Marlin. He did. That's why like Jurassic Park movies are bullshit. Like you expect me to believe you brought dinosaurs back to life and there wasn't immediately. If not the people that develop the technology, a bunch of billionaire rednecks in West Texas with a private ranch where you could go hunt a Vlos Raptor for a hundred thousand dollars.

That's exactly what would happen. Immediately. Immediately would happen. I don't know about a raptor. Red story. It would be on every wall. A trophy raptor. That'd be all the rage. Everyone needs to have some type of dinosaur on their wall. Utah raptor. That's the part that... Because it's like, oh, dinosaur. The only reason humans are around is because dinosaurs aren't roaming the earth. It's like, no, it's not. We'd fuck dinosaurs up. Bro, my...

My four-year-old, I took him to the zoo. I got him a little necklace. It's a little acrylic, and in the acrylic, there's a shark tooth. Well, he keeps wanting me to take the shark tooth out of the fucking acrylic. I'm like, I can't do that, buddy. Well, I want the shark tooth out. I'm like, fuck it. I get on Amazon. I bought a pound of shark teeth for $7.99 on Amazon. You're going to tell me dinosaurs are fucking us up? Get out of here. What?

is there a similar animal that's like on the land that is as dangerous as like a raptor today grizzly bear right a grizzly bear would fuck a raptor up and you don't see people like people get grizzly bears do not rule the earth so again my brain maintains stupid

But the largest land mammal in North America is actually a polar bear. It's not a grizzly bear. Polar bears are slightly larger. But also, polar bear, for some reason my brain retained this, are the only animal in North America that actively hunts humans. They don't give a fuck. So polar bears. Polar bears, yes. Yeah, polar bear, brown bear, black bear, there is like lay down or make yourself tall. Polar bear is the only one is...

fucking run. There's no, like, you can play dead. It's going to kill you. How does it go? If it's brown, it's brown, lay down, black, don't look back, white, say goodnight. If it's white, it's trying to colonize you. Run. That's not a race name. It knows I have oil. The colon bears are here.

Run! And you polar bears fucking... This chase is brought to you by Coca-Cola. Wasn't there a couple years ago someone found like a hybrid, like a polar bear and a grizzly bear, like a Kodiak, got down, and it looked brown, but it had the same like genes. I swear that was a thing that I read somewhere. They're like ligers.

Yeah, I answered theoretically. I know one liger fact. Right, they can't reproduce. Oh, like a mule. They're terrifyingly big, though. Have you seen how big a f***ing liger is? Have you seen Kenny the Tiger? Oh, the Down Syndrome Tiger. Google it. Google Kenny the Tiger. Wait, he's f***ing trisoma 21? Kenny the Tiger?

I think it's the only known tiger like that. A derpy? Is he a derpy boy? Show Chris, show Chris. You've never seen that before? What a sweetheart. How did he get- Did he get himself captured? You've been the one away. I'm sorry. What the fuck's wrong with Kenny?

That's how I get canceled right there. Can we just start looking at different derpy animals? We're just laughing at derpy animals.

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They're like, what the fuck did we watch? Dude, that's like, bro.

Where? Like, it's a f***ing liger. Yeah, so I saw one. I went to one of those cat sanctuaries once to film, like, years ago to film, like, a doc on them. And they are freaking huge. So I want to know, like, aside from captivity...

How did that happen? Because tigers is like the furthest... Well, when a mommy lion wants a daddy tiger very much. That's why he doesn't have kids. Hold on. When a mommy lion wants to get her flakes frosted and she calls Tony. So tigers, the furthest they go west is like India and the furthest east you'll see a lion is like the horn of Africa. Also, further fucking proof.

Humans reign supreme because exactly how that happened. We were like, look at the size of that cat. Let's catch it. That's fair. Transport it across the planet. And then don't think any further than that. And they end up just like when it gets too big and dangerous, then they give it to one of those sanctuaries. Well, they caught the big cats. They're like, not my problem anymore. The more they caught them and then they're like, now make them fuck. Yeah. Huh. It's sterile. I didn't see that on Tiger King. Put it out in existence again. Yeah.

I think- I like going back in, like, what you're talking about. Back in the day, it is crazy when you hear, like, the war stories of, like, battle elephants. And then it's like, oh, how do you get rid of battle elephants? Oh, let's light these hogs on fire and it'll scare the shit out of them. They're just figuring out what worked and what didn't work. I mean, but can you imagine, like, not knowing what an elephant was? Yes! That's insane! Is it?

Maybe in like spear time, spear and sword time. Well, I'm saying like way, way long ago. Modern time though? No, not modern. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like 1200? Like if there was like, I don't know, we rolled up on an alien planet that had like a primal civilization and they had like the equivalent of war elephants. Like there's a marine machine gun. It's Debs.

Dibs! Dibs! You know what I mean? I wonder what it tastes like. A hundred percent. Like, you think the dudes with the shields on the front line were like, I'm gonna eat that fucking thing. For sure. That looks tasty. That's why I didn't like Avatar. Hippo is allegedly delicious. Yeah. I would not fuck with that one. Like, that's... No, but eating is really, like... Hippo steak is apparently fantastic. It's awesome.

now. Is this true? Yeah, we almost brought them to America in the 1800s. A delicious slab of hippos. Isn't there two or three hippos in Colombia that are about to cause the apocalypse? God, I do not want to go to South America now. It started because they are the most territorial. Like there's by 5x, they kill more humans than any other thing. Yeah, it's like the deadliest animal on the planet, I think. Other than mosquitoes. Like it's those and then hippos. That doesn't count. Yeah.

I mean, fat chicks really are angry. I'm sorry. One of them do hit slam pigs. The scary part about hippos is everybody's like, oh, it's a big, derpy, fat fuck that floats around in the water all day. No, it's not. Their skin is like, it's thick skin. There's no, like, layer of blubber. There's solid muscle underneath that. You know how hippos swim? They don't. That was a trick question. You know how they get around in the water? They sink. They sink.

And then they run across the river bed. And when they run, they can run under underwater for like five minutes. And then when they run out of water, they jump up, take a breath and sink back to the bottom and run along the bottom of the river. They run at like 35 miles an hour, 28 miles an hour. Yeah. That's fucking underwater. No, I can't run faster than Usain Bolt. That's like, okay.

That is. And how much do they weigh? They weigh like what? 3,000 pounds or some shit. Hippo weight. Nope. Out of there. Holy shit. At 28 miles an hour, you're just dead. Three to 9,000 pounds. They get up to 9,900 pounds. They didn't fuck that. Yeah. You're looking like that's, that's a fucking car. Like that's a midsize SUV. That's bigger than my Hummer. Yeah. That's 9,000 pounds is a big car. That's a large truck. Hummer.

Yeah, with a 3,000 pound battery. That's a lot of fucking hell. And then it wants to kill you. And it's delicious. And it's delicious. We're 100% going to Africa this year. The hippo is the reason that humanity... Because I guess all of civilization, the cradle of civilization was in Africa. And just somebody one day was like...

I'm done dealing with the armored fat water tractors. Let's get the fuck out of here, guys. Let's go somewhere else. And they end up in everywhere. I tweeted about that the other day. Really? I was like, when I was like 14, 15 sitting in history class, I was like, it's fucking, it's wild to me that somebody would just leave like Britain or France or even the East coast, like the most advanced civilizations on earth. You got paved roads. If you got money, you got running water, fuck powers coming up pretty soon. Like,

I'm going to go camp for the rest of my life out in the wilderness. I'm going to migrate west and just be left the fuck alone. I was like, why the fuck would you do that? And then at 30, I'm like, never mind, I get it. I volunteer to go to Mars right now. I'm sorry, how many people are there? None? Fuck, okay. Dude, I was reading a few years ago. Just read the internet speed and I'm good. I was reading a few years ago, I don't know if it's still a thing, but that disabled vets and...

there was another category could actually still homestead in parts of Alaska. Like it's way up in the fucking Northern circle, but like you can homestead. I don't know if it's still a thing.

I would be terrible at homesteading. I like electricity. Yeah, that's fair. And comfort. There's that fantasy though, right? There's that part. That left me a couple years ago. Oh yeah, you're 40 now. I looked at God. I was like, that's not for me. This shit goes south. I'm taking other people's stuff real quick.

way easier than figuring out how to do it myself but your son will be up there whether people like try it out they try going home setting then they you hear the video they're like guys it's been two months and it's just you know it's a little bit harder than we thought it was gonna be and then you have oh who's the tall guy um outdoor boys

You know, outdoor boy, it's the, he's, he does, um, I'm camping out in Alaska. He does it all the time. Oh, I know who you're, I can see his face. He has a family, but he goes out. He's like, I'm just going to go live out, uh, for three days and negative 40 degree weather. And he is fucking good at everything. Yeah. That man is, he spent a lot of time honing his craft. I know who you're talking about. Can't remember his damn name. Outdoor boys. I just don't know his name from it. You always just see him. You ever seen his shit, Nick?

No, dude. Oh, I, I will say it is. I can fall asleep to that stuff. It is him. Like I'm building a, uh, what is it like an igloo, but he shows how to build into the snow. He's like, okay, the snow shows you how to measure it. Okay. We're about 14 foot deep snow. And then he builds a house going down. He's like, okay, this will be my shelter. We're going to use ice, right? Or we'll use a fire right here. What here's you're looking for? Was it Luke? Yep. Luke.

Luke with Outdoor Boys here. It had that ASMR quality to it where he's cutting the ice. A lot of those guys had long sections where you listened to them working. From what I've seen, he never does anything just for aesthetics. It always has a purpose. He's like, you want this channel right here to go a little bit past your house so the wind doesn't come in your front door. It's always just shit you'd never think of.

I know now, like one thing I've learned from that, if you're ever out in the cold and it's like freezing and there's snow or anything like that, first thing you do is build a massive fire where your bed and your home is going to be. And then you put that out. You want that soil to fucking pretty much burn off.

Heats up all that earth. And then you build a small fire next to it. Then you start building your shelter there because then you're warm all night because that ground is heated. That's where you lose a majority of your body heat is through the ground. So he's like, yeah, you do this.

And then you watch other people that don't do that. And they're like, I'm retarded thinking, Oh, that's too much work. He's like, it's two in the morning. It's 30 degrees right now. And I am dying because of how cold it is. Him. He'll show his thermometer. It's like 40 degrees. Well, it was like negative 20 outside, just like right outside the shelter. Dude. Every time I watched like naked and afraid of survivor is like,

You guys are fucking this up. I'm telling you, like right now, if I'm ever on one of these shows, naked and afraid, I will pay, Nick. And if I can watch, have electricity, show up in a little satchel. Me with the world's smallest blurb. It's that one booger. Put up the one in there where they like, push out your head on that one dude. Booger. Dude, every time I watch that show, I was like,

The millisecond they drop me off, I'm finding the ocean, the lake, the river, whatever body of water they drop my ass near, I am covering my entire body in mud. Like an inch of mud. Because I am not f***ing with all the mosquitoes and bugs around the entire time. And I'm also not going to get the world's worst sunburn. That's the first thing I would do right out of the gate. Because every f***ing time, it's like the second night, and they're just crumpling.

crying as mosquitoes are eating them alive.

Oh, yeah. I watch that show alone, and they always go to colder places. But I always see them, and it's like, oh, I'm going to set four or five traps, or I'm going to put out three or four lines. My entire coastline is covered in fishing lines. Saturation is what we're going with here. And I have 700 traps set on the other side, so I'm going to work on building my house, and then I'm going to go find dinner for the next two and a half weeks. Like, fuck, man. Saturate that shit.

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But they had a show. It was only like one season long. But the premise of the show was...

It's like your turn and you're up. So it would be like the four hosts of Unsub is what this show was. But it was like, it's Eli's turn. At some point in the next month, we're going to kidnap Eli and drop his ass off in the middle of some environment. And he has to like survive and make it to this objective. But like they got so like one dude went scuba diving and the seals were already under the water waiting for him. So when he went down, they f***ed.

Yoinked his ass and then just stripped him of all his shit and dropped him off in the desert. And he had to like clear 30 miles and like this amount of time or whatever. And there was another one where, uh, the dude was going to, uh, like a conference, like shot show or some shit like that. And they had like corroborated with the hotel, uh,

that they were going to chase this dude down and they chased him down and they had it all planned out. Like we're going to start chasing him here. The only way to go is this direction because this guy's going to come and block this hallway. So he's going to turn left at the end of that hallway. There's an elevator. He's going to have to take it. It's the only option. So this dude goes, runs, gets in the elevator. The elevator doors open. They shut. He thinks he made it. The elevator, they built a fake elevator into the back of a semi truck and

So when he gets in the elevator, it just fucking pulls off and it was like the loading dock of the building and they got him. It was funny shit. I gotta remember what that show was called. It was hilarious. I would be so pissed at my friends. How could you ever? That would be giving me trauma. Hey man, we gotta get in the elevator. I don't know.

Yeah. Do you ever trust your friends? I hate my friends. It's your turn. Okay. Let me go to my panic room. You guys could have just asked me. What'd you guys do today? You guys filmed a little for Habitually Fat. And about woodworking or furniture? Furniture. Yeah. We went to the Texas Furniture Museum. Didn't know that was a thing. We didn't either. So we went out. Are you driving? You're like...

No, like, so they have this thing out in, what the hell's the name of that town? New Brothels. New Brothels. Oh, yeah. New Brothels, okay. Yeah. Brothels, there you go. That's the word. We went out there. New Brothels is a very different place. Yeah, I know, right?

We went out and originally we had gotten, well, my, my missus had gotten a hold of a blacksmith and this guy was actually a former forged and fire champion and shit like that. And he's like, Hey, I got some stuff set aside. He's Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex. Yeah. Alex knows you. Yeah. And so he's like, I got some stuff, stuff set aside for, for you and Nick. And I was like, all right, cool. So we went out there and forged a turns out I'm pretty much professional. I'm better in forging in every way. Cause Nick was talking to a fan and getting free beer. Yeah.

everybody knows nick some uh like native american dude and uh he had like full get up because it's like a renaissance like festival thing there so he had like this full uh get up and he was a marine corps crew chief for 30 years oh this was like cosplay world war ii or no it was like it was like 1800s history buff yeah he was like in character but then he saw me he was like

I love your video. Like, he went Bobby and Zayn. Pulling out a cell phone. He broke character. I looked him up. I posted him on Instagram. Look at my Instagram real quick. You can see his outfit. Yeah. He looked good. He looked dope. Yeah. And he was a super big fan of you. And I was in there forging away. You know, I just want you to know, Doug Marquita, I'm coming for the next championship over on Forged to Fire. I love that show. It's wild, but I love that show. And then, so the, not the owners, but the-

No, no. It's on my actual wall. Not a story. Oh! That was enough shit. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Dude, he was like... Was he just stoked? Yeah, he was super cool. He was a crew chief, survived a helicopter crash from 6,000 feet. He was cool as shit. 30-year Marine Corps veteran. Holy shit. And a former Huey crew chief. God dang! Should we call him Crew Native American? No.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't. Nick's just like, we cannot call him that.

- He's like, instantly he's like, "No, no, no." But then we went and saw, they did a cannon firing and there was a guy there and he was actually kind of like, I think around me and Nick's age, he's been doing this for like 20 years and like told us everything we ever wanted to know about this cannon. Like all sorts of information, like how different cannons worked, like this dude, that was his tism, which was great. And like, so we all always love like finding people who just geek out about their topic.

And so one of the last things we went and visited was... No, fuck that. Go back to the cannons. Oh, you want to go back to the cannons? The fucking cannon thing was wild because I was like, obviously you guys don't have a forward observer and you're calling in coordinates and shit on a fucking 1800s cannon, right? I was like, so you guys just fucking give her the warning shot and then just Kentucky Windage it in from there? I never thought about that. And he's like...

Kind of, but he's like, you see the setup back here, like 10 feet back from the cannon. He's like, this is where they would make the charges that they're shooting. And the dude manning that station is like one of, if not the smartest dudes on the battlefield, he's basically a mathematician. So the dude at the back after they fire once would make the charge and like how much black powder in the ball they were shooting and everything. He would adjust the powder as they go, uh,

to get more or less distance and gauge the fuse on if it was a high explosive round or when they wanted it to explode.

So it's just this weird, it's like the complete 180 of like a sniper where it's like, I have match grade ammunition. That's a static thing. And I'm going to adjust the scope. It's flipped to where like now the scope is the static thing. And I'm going to reload my own ammunition to make it work on the back end. During battle. During battle. And they're like, a well-trained crew could fire every 15 seconds. So this dude is just doing math. Dude back there with a.

Like a fucking Muppet. I was like, holy shit. That's really impressive. 15 seconds. Holy shit. Yeah. It's a one-man artillery crew. And it's just cannonballs that are either, I mean, bouncing. That one was six pounds? Yeah, it was a six-pound cannon. So it was a six-pound fucking cannon.

Dude, chain ones were terrible. Well, he was explaining, like, there was a really cool story about a group of, like, 300 Americans after the Alamo. They got cornered and shit like that and, like, what they were all doing to each other. It's a really in-depth, like, it takes a long time to explain. But he explains that the Spanish at one point in time to, like...

convince them to surrender because they ended up surrendering is they were loading chains just chains into their uh uh cannons and firing them at the treetops and chopping down the tops of the trees the trees down on top of them to get them to surrender yeah i mean that was absolutely that that worked for me when they had the the balls like your back to back end is chain length you're gonna see that start rotating through the air and that chain starts cutting shit apart and absolutely decimating

Terrifying also thinking about on the battlefield, especially what line formation did you do? You got in a fucking line and just like fire and they're shooting giant cannonballs. And then you watch your buddy just get obliterated by an eight pound. I mean, he was, he's the iron, but he was explaining like the different they'd throw in there. He's like, they throw like forks and spoons in there, cut up horseshoes, toss them in there, like grape shot, like explaining how all the loads work. I was like, God, man, humans are really, really good at killing each other. Oh yeah.

But then... Oh, I do know. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go out by spoon. No. Like, please. That's the last way I want. At least make it a knife. Oh, man. And then we got into the furniture museum, and I'm not going to lie. I like your guys' story. Dine by spork. We went to a... We did some canines. I met a Native American, and then we went to the furniture museum. Well, I guess the weird thing is called... What's the Swedish... Visually fat. What's the Swedish...

Meatballs? Ikea. Ikea? Yes. That's your museum. You guys are just walking around Ikea? Just drunk off our ass. Wow! I'm going to be totally honest with you, though. Like, going into the furniture part, I was kind of, like, least excited about that, if that makes sense.

And we get in there and this dude, I understand how people feel when I talk about missiles. Now he had me like starry eyed about furniture. He was like tying furniture, not getting into the American civil war. And like five minutes into this rant, I was like,

Holy, this guy's making old furniture entertaining. This is fantastic. It was crazy. He had us looking at one chair. Well, two chairs technically for like, I don't know, 15 minutes. Yeah. He had a tattoo of the chair. It's his favorite chair. He had a tattoo of this. It just looks like a normal old dinner. Fucking listen to this. Okay. He's got a tattoo of the chair right here and he's got a pin of the same tattoo and it says, ask me about my favorite chair.

So obviously I asked him about the chair. He's like, come here. I'll show you. He pulls up. There's two identical chairs. I mean, identical, like, not like, oh, those are two chairs in the same. No, they're the same fucking chair. Like the grain was the same. It was insane.

And he's like, okay, so one of these is original made by this famous furniture maker, some German dude that migrated in age. He goes, and then they wanted to recreate this style and Texas had a bunch of people in prison. So they wanted prisoners to start making furniture. So they gave this chair, the OG one to the prisoners and said, okay,

Make exact copies of this chair. And the prisoners did it to the point where like one of the corners, like at the very front of the chair had like broken off and was glued back on the prisoners did that.

You could see where they broke the corner off the chair and repaired it. And there was like one piece where there was like a big chunk, like a gouge out of the seat. They matched the gout. Like it was literally 1800s prisoners being smart asses. Or beat. Malicious. Just malicious compliance. I'm so sorry. I'll get the glue on your head. Just tear it away. Yeah.

It was crazy. Dude had me engaged in furniture for like an hour. He tattooed a chair that's not his? Does he own the chair? No, he's the curator of the museum. Yeah. And he's been working there forever. So it's like...

It was crazy. We found the 1865 version of a MAGA hat. That was interesting. So there's a stitch on the back of a chair that he explains, and it's called the Lincoln Stitch. So if you were a Confederate and you had a Lincoln Stitch, or if you were in Confederate States and had a chair with a Lincoln Stitch, people, when they walked in, immediately knew which side you were on. Yeah, if you had a Lincoln rocking chair, Lincoln rocker, a Lincoln-style rocking chair, it was basically like... What is a Lincoln-style rocking chair?

It's just a particular style of chair, but it's associated with Abraham Lincoln. Okay. So it was like, oh, if you have that chair, obviously you like Abraham Lincoln, which means you're not on the Confederate, which in Texas, part of the Confederacy. And then he had this story about how the people that owned this house, this furniture museum's in, they had this chair and their sons were –

um they you know obviously they're in the south so like they're part of the confederacy but they didn't want to be so they had this plan where they were going to try to escape to mexico and then take a boat up to new orleans to fight for the union and they ended up like getting killed and it like ended the whole family's bloodline it was like it was a crazy ass furniture museum okay this guy like tismed off in a way what the fuck did i miss out on i said they text me you want to go to the furniture museum

No. I went, what? I'm going to do taxes. I went in and was like, anything else. I went into this with a mindset of like, all right, we're testing my skills. Can I dick joke my way into making a furniture museum entertaining? And the whole time I'm like, holy shit. It was really crazy. I was not prepared for it. Dude, like, crushed it.

It was really, really cool. He was explaining like the whole like, oh, in this country, they use this to build and they use this wood here when they moved here in this time. And then he's like, instead of these bricks, which they did with like the architecture in these houses, he was explaining like how the German roots fed into this and they used Adobe in this. And like, it's fucking nuts. Pause. Which one of y'all told him he should start a YouTube channel? Neither of us. I got distracted when he said there was a Renaissance festival in December. And I was like,

you guys going to have that night MMA? And he's like, yeah, actually I was like, can I do it? And he's like, if you sign a waiver, I was like, so I'm down in December. Yeah. I'm turkey leg and fucking gang goes night fighting. Yeah. Oh, I'll be a hundred percent. Do some night fighting.

Is it weight classes? Huh? I don't know. We gotta find out if they make armor in tron sizes. Of course you hope not. Nick just sitting there throwing people with a mace. Fucking going to the jousting. I have a Chetland pony. I can't even aim down that low. Just spearing their horses. I'm like, fuck, dude.

Dude, that would be a... I'm down for a renaissance festival. I want it. I want to go to night fighting. Well, I'll get you... I mean, I still have his contact information. I'll make sure you got all the contact information. But it was honestly like... Renaissance and Fight Club. I wasn't super enthusiastic about going to this thing, but the people who were there and the history that they showed us made me very excited about being there. I was like, actually, this is really fucking cool.

I'll watch. I'm going to watch this. At some point in the videos, you're autistic about furniture. You know that, right? Yeah. He was like a 68 whiskey. He deployed to Iraq twice. He's like, oh, yeah. Is he married? Yeah. His wife is a former. She was behavioral health. Yeah. Yeah. They met in the army.

honey yes you can go play with your fern i like just writing notes it's a study for when we first got in there like i saw this one shelf in the corner and i was like that's a really nice shelf i really like out of everything in there i was like that sticks out to me that's great dude went down like it's made of this wood this is why we know it's classic open it up look inside here like the tism just straight it was beautiful like you know in pond stars where you could walk through the door with like a unicorn's

foreskin and the guy's like i got a buddy that can tell if this is he's the guy that that guy would call for anything related to furniture yeah this guy knows a shit ton are you gonna go to the medieval

To the that medieval place? Yeah, if we go. Oh, absolutely. I'm in 100%. Yeah. We're 100% doing some fucking night fighting. I mean, we got to talk. Ukraine's probably going to be using armor by then, right? Yeah. Ukraine's using older shit by the day at this point. So, I mean, it'll probably be relevant to his channel. That's how effective chain mail is. Yeah.

Any day now, they'll be using those same old cannons. Graveshot. We were talking about it last night when we filmed a different Unsub episode that, like, German SWAT is wearing chainmail again. How come? Because that's all the criminals have over there is knives. So, like, that's what they're running into. You know what doesn't work on knives? Plate carriers. So there's literally, like, they look badass, too. They still have those on. It's fucking, like, the chainmail headset. Dude's got, like, an AR or whatever the fuck it is.

the German SWAT dudes have is a multicam and a plate carrier. They look pretty dope. That's sick. Also, it's suck dick. Yeah. No, I can put on chain mail and they'll put on your plate carrier. Now you're ready. The only part of chain mail that I found like, cause I wore like one set and my buddy, he used to make it and I was like, let me try this on. And it was like, just like a vest and,

And, uh... Oh, yeah. It pulls your body hair. You know that? And on the top, too. It pulls your fucking body and arm hair. Would it be hot? How much do you think that weighs? Would it be hot? Yes. Yeah. Getting ready to go to work with your boys with the armored troop carrier outside as you're like, Blair, Alexa, play Gregorian Chants! Like, as you're putting your chain mail on. Come on. Tonight, we dine in hell. We'll say that. Oh, shit.

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You like medieval warfare? Love it. I go to Renaissance Fair in New Jersey and New York all the time. See, you're autistic. Absolutely. You're like 100%. Do you do, like, do you watch the stuff or do you study the wars in that time frame? So I, the

the renaissance like uh that time period of warfare the audience is not super excited about that episode i love it personally but i don't cover it like on the channel no but like what do you like what was your favorite segment in that is it like the battles or do you have a favorite period my favorite thing to do is to go to the those renaissance fairs and like dress up and then just immerse yourself in that world to me like me and my wife did that last year

It's so exciting to just go and pretend you're somebody else for a little bit. And the winged hussars arrived. Sorry, we were talking about classic battles. Was that the Siege of Vienna in the 1500s? I don't know if you guys are familiar with that at all. No, any of those historic battles. Was it King Henry? When it was...

It's in the movie where it's just showing French King versus him. And then it's just the mud. He wasn't wearing plate. Other guy was. And it's just the brutality of those fights because it was...

What's that channel? It is Medieval Knights Fight and it is just brutally realistic. Hey, this is if two knights fought. This is how it goes. It's just like clink, clink, clink. Then it turns into MMA and then it's them trying to fucking stab the other guy in the neck or groin with one of their small ones. I've been playing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and I'm assuming that the fighting is just so annoying in it and so difficult to nail down.

I'm assuming that, yeah. Swords, it's not like movies where it's like, I cut through your steel plate. It is. Dink. I wonder. Dink. Hammers. I don't think this is going to make us fight. Damn it. I was going to have a hot take and say a medieval knight would fuck up a samurai. I'd probably. See, I knew you'd agree with me. Damn it.

It's a hard one. I will say, okay, because both, you're still medieval knights had steel. They were steel and chainmail. You just got better equipment. They used bamboo and layered wood because arrows. So that's the only thing they were worried about. And then by the time they were, Nobunaga is the one that introduced. Here comes Ezekiel with the war hammer. Oh, shit.

And then you die. Literally, you watch those big-ass war hammers just kill because your head gets imprinted. Sorry, what's the samurai weapon that was called? The name for it literally translates to sword breaker. It was like a gigantic baseball bat with metal studs. And it would break katanas and they would just bludgeon you to death with it. He's not joking. When he says a giant baseball bat, it is a giant...

baseball bat with spikes on it and it was meant to bludgeon and break they did a fantastic job of that because arrows and then nobunaga introduced firearms and they were like that's dishonorable but he fucking cleaned up japan firearms like just blew through everyone i i also think that a lot of it boils down to not just a difference in armor but a difference in armament because like a katana is not a stabbing weapon can it yes but it's not really designed for it's more of a slashing weapon and

And then, but like a knight is going to have a broadsword, a claymore. Those are stabbing weapons. Those are also slashing weapons. So like the samurai is probably quicker on his feet, but they're going to also have a. Ah, okay. What is it called? Tetsubo?

Which is a big-ass log with metal studs. The wakatashi or wakashi? It's the smallest, so you're always carrying two, and they would have that to kill themselves with, or to, like, stab a armored... It's fucking antique Japanese cyanide. Yeah. It's way better! And then cut my head off, please.

Dude, I've been doing a stupid amount of research into that old... Swords, slashing, stabbies, rapiers... Rapierist. Rapierist. Rapperist. Dude, it is the most terrifying word where you're like, yes, I'm a rapierist. Rapperist. And you're like, I would not say that. If you're good with a rapier, if you use it, that's your name for it. Those are still considered the best. Like, you will...

On a one-on-one duel, if there's no armor, that is what wins, no matter what. And I was like, that's bullshit. I was going through everything. I was like, there is no joking. Those dudes just fuck shit up. And they would kill everyone just because of the length. And then it's just like, it's like through the heart and you're dead. There's no ifs, ands, or buts. Watch the fights on. It's fucking ridiculous. They fuck shit up.

we get totally into medieval here god that that is a sexy man that just walked in i was like wait who just walked in i got quiet i would try not to ruin the show instantly instantly mr captain what are you doing with um now with geopolitics which one are you going are you going to stay on the ukraine war that's going on right now i cover i cover everything including you know american systems what are you thinking

I cover... A lot of times we'll go into what the United States plan is for certain areas. So talk about how the United States plans to... If they were... Their war plan for Iran, for instance, how would they hit Iran's nuclear shelters? What weapon systems? Where would they attack from? Like...

I talk about Ukraine. Oh, so, okay. Have you heard of Diego? I like your, like, oh, this is boring. Very interesting. Oh, my God. So have you guys heard of Diego Garcia? Just as much this way. Have you heard of him? It's a floating aircraft carrier, basically, but it's an island. So it's an unsinkable aircraft carrier that...

Kind of in the middle. It's like off the, you know, like a thousand miles from Iran. And it's a British territory that they've had for forever. And America, like, owns a airbase on this island.

Island and they put all their B2 bombers. Oh, I saw that. They just put them there. Right. Yeah. So that's where they go. And, um, that's where they get all their combat power and build up there. And it's when shock and awe in Iraq, right?

That's where they took off and flew from and just bombed the hell out of Iraq from. It's the closest place, basically, like, logistically to run missions into Yemen, into Iran, and also project power into, like, you know, China. Let them know what's up. But...

So I love covering things like that. Like Diego Garcia, that base, it's just insane. The floating Island. It's well, it's an Island that is basically an unsinkable aircraft carrier because it's just for aircraft essentially. And yeah, like the, so since the end of world war two, because things worked out pretty well for us, like we got to essentially have all these pretty dope bases and

And I mean, if you want to talk about the different, some of the most strategic bases in the world, there's like Bagram for a long time was a very strategic base, air base. There's in Romania, we have a massive air base that projects power into like the Black Sea. And no one can kind of match America's-

You made it way worse. Yeah. I could go on and on. It's super fascinating to me.

Because that's the stuff I don't have any idea of. Jordan, also, we have an air base in there. No one really knows about it, but Jordan is... Because they don't like to talk about it. They named a shoe line after it, actually. The air base in Jordan. Yes. And it is fly. I was about to be like... It's got a picture of Uncle Sam dropping a bomb.

You fucked me up because I've been there. So I was like, I was like, MSAP is a good first shoot. Yeah, I've been through MSAP. Yeah, I was there for like a week. We did a, we call it Operation. He's jealous right now. Yeah, we call it Operation. You got to go there. Who invited you there?

We called it Operation Combat Patch because, like, my battalion was split. We had one battery in Jordan and three batteries in UAE. And the guys in UAE didn't get combat patches. So, like, we called it Crew Immersion, which was literally them. They would send us a crew. We would send them a crew. Go there for, like, a week and then just go back so that way everyone got combat patches. We called it Operation Combat Patch. It was a waste of time. You know how I got mine?

I got shot. During that time, I think Kuwait, you got a combat patch. And I was like, will you guys get to stay here and get hazard pay? And they're like, yeah. Hey, I got mine in Afghanistan. Don't give me shit. Oh, I know. They're good. But those units, that's what they do. Just rotate for a week. It's like, okay, come back. Everyone's good. Good, good, good, good.

Yeah, it's insane. And there's several bases in Jordan. Like, the Jordanians are, like, okay with us-ish. Like, we just, like, hey, you guys are Jordanian or American. Like, we would drive past them, and, like, it looks like a hobo town if you've ever been there because there's the main base, and then there's... Yes, Nick is huge. Yeah, right? Nick loves traveling overseas. How many passports do you have? None. They were trying to get him to Africa to go, like, on this nice...

Safari? That's fair. No. But... It's just like a resort. This is not like Struggle Bus. No. But from the meme... Look at me. You're like, Nick, we should go to South Africa. They're renowned for their hospitality towards white people. No. Not interested. Kind of got fucked up by apartheid. We're going to a state. Yeah.

but uh the the the patriot side is like i don't know 15 20 minute drive from msab so but like in between the airbase and the patriot site there's nothing there's like random like houses but you're still on a jordanian base and there's just like jordanian dudes out there like doing jumping jacks in the desert like in uniform you're like what is happening it's the strangest thing and then you land there and they're like yep

At Syria, it's over that way. That's what they use that base for. They fly the resupply to, I think, right? Yeah. Yeah. They got another... It's a Syria base. There's another base. There's another base.

I don't know. Tower 22 is right over there. The one that got... Maybe? I don't know. It's the soldiers that were killed by the drones. Tower 22 might have been where we landed. I don't know. So, like, we got on a C-17 at AMSAB. Wait, pause. Go ahead. Soldiers killed by drone? Our soldiers? Yeah. It was, like, the first... You know, for the longest time, they said, like, no American soldier has been killed by air...

you know, an air attack since, I don't know, Vietnam, I think it was. And you can't really say that anymore because in 2023,

three soldiers were killed by a drone attack by insurgents at tower 22 what is it like a normal small drone exactly no shit one of those type of tower 22 is in a rough spot though it's like the corner of jordan iraq and syria like it's not in a good spot it's a rough neighborhood yeah have you done are you gonna do a video on like the border between china and india

I've done, yeah, I've covered that. I fucking love that. It's some of my favorite footage. Aren't they, like, throwing rocks at each other to avoid, like, escalating? There's a chunk of the border between India and China, and it's literally just, like, hundreds of soldiers from each country fucking looking at each other with, like, a river in between them. And bats. And they have, like, baseball bats, and they, like, frequently get in fights and beat the fuck out of them.

out of each other with chains everything except for the rule is no explosives and so it's even more specific than that it's like they signed a treaty where they said okay we both got nukes right how do we make this not go hot we're only going to use what's called cold weapons so you the rule is it's literally it's specifically 200 meters and slappers only it's hilarious

It's 200 meters. So they have artillery cannons, but they have to be 200 meters away and they can't use on each other. So they end up just getting into brawls and every once in a while they'll kill each other or dudes will die by getting lost in a river somewhere. They freeze to death. It's the most bizarre. We were talking about medieval...

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isn't there border with the hooligan soccer people isn't there border with pakistan also like kind of questionable like they just stomp in front of each other yeah i think pakistan's one where they have like the performative aggressive dancing they like have a dance off it's it's wild india india is on another level china and pakistan are kind of they're they're cool with each other i think they like each other and then india and pakistan not so cool india and china not so cool

Nobody ever talks about the American plan for China is just give India a bunch of cool shit and let them do their thing. I'm just still picturing soldiers on both sides. And like, no bats today. They're like walking up.

You laugh! That's what we did in the... They're snapping. That's what we did in the fucking tree incident in North Korea. Yeah. That's exactly what happened. Oh, or the jellyfish cannon incident that we did on Kind of Consensual. Okay, we'll go to that. What's the jellyfish? Wait, wait, okay. This? I did a video on it. It's Operation Paul Bunyan.

There was a tree that was obstructing vision of one of the observation towers in South Korea looking into North Korea. And it was like an issue. They had to get rid of this fucking tree. So they sent a crew out with axes and chainsaws to cut it down. And the North Koreans showed up and there was this huge brawl. And I think two men ended up dying. I think it was two, maybe three, but I think two. And America was like, okay, okay.

The tree's still up. We can't let this fly. So they fucking brought in troops, like thousands of troops on standby. And they had the South Korean special forces there with them. They had, it was, I run through all the stats, but it was something, it was like fucking like five B-52s doing hot laps on top with like,

50 F4 Phantoms doing hot laps over top with multiple Apaches doing hot laps over the top. I hope this guy had just one axe. Like, what the fuck? But they told them, so they told the Americans it was the same bullshit where like, we can't go in there with guns is what they told the Americans. So the Americans roll up and they start pulling out like axes and shit.

Like they're ready to get in a fight about it because the North Koreans shouldn't have guns either. But there's just all this ordinance on top and thousands of troops with guns ready to run in. And then the South Korean special forces guys rolled up and they parked their Humvees and they got underneath the Humvees and dropped shit down that they had tied under. They had crew serve machine guns and shit. They had claymores mounted on their chest and they're just pointing this fucking 50 count the bridge while the Americans are just like chopping down this.

It was like just the biggest like fuck around and find out moment in human history. God, I love how much it cost to chop down one single tree. This is true. I will say that's probably the only time in American history the amount of money we spent actually went to the job at hand. Like it just didn't line some contractor's pocket. Everybody was like, look, we're not taking any overhead on this. We're only going to need five B-52s. Holy shit.

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someone sent in a story about this U.S. naval submarine. Well, they were, obviously, you can't go near naval submarines when they're in port. Like, everyone knows that. Like, you're going to get shot. Well, apparently, these individuals during Red Tide, which is full of jellyfish, Greenpeace pulled up. And so, like, originally, they were like, we're ready to just blast them. And the captain was like, no, no, no, don't do that. Like, if they board, we'll deal with it. And long story short, Greenpeace decided to board Red Tide

this u.s naval submarine and the crew beat the living shit out of like and threw them into jellyfish waters there was one guy they finally got a water pump going so the the ship the

the sub is sucking up like 150 gallons per minute, including jellyfish that it's now churning into jellyfish stew and throwing at Greenpeace at what? Like 200 PSI. So you're ripping people off of this ship with jellyfish water. Like it, it was, it was one of the greatest stories I've ever read. I loved it. I loved every bit of it. So like, as soon as you were talking about baseball bats and I was like, that's immediately what I thought of is like,

U.S. Naval submarine putting in work with the jellyfish cannon. I think my life's cool. And then I hear stories like that. I'm like, I got so many more things to check off my bucket list.

like i jumped out of a plane fucking cool yeah that though cutting down a tree everything you gotta live that moment like we're gonna just park our entire gdp over top of this while we're chopping this this fucking tree down like north korean gdp isn't even a fraction of what was up there i think last year they're like 2024 their gdp was like

i want to say like four or five billion like it was not much or maybe that was their their defense budget i don't know i think that tree also for them held like a really significant it was like their their leader had planted it no because according to according to them

Who's the... Kim Jong-un? His dad planted that tree is what they said. But according to them, his dad planted every tree on the planet. And he's... I thought it was like specific. No, it wasn't that tree. It was literally every tree was technically... He's Johnny Appleseed of North Korea. He also apparently invented the burrito, according to them. Like, I don't give a fuck.

what those idiots said. You know what I didn't know? Whenever, like, I'm just going to refer to North Korea as communism now because, like, everyone's like, oh, it's a socialist dictator, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, hold on.

I didn't know this until recently. Did you know Stalin appointed Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-un's grandfather, in charge of North Korea? No, but it makes sense. I didn't know that. Stalin was the one that was pushing for the invasion. I had no idea that Stalin was like, you're in charge of North Korea. Yep. No clue. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. You had the Korean War, everything else. I didn't know that. I don't know why that's not common knowledge. The Soviet Union backed that invasion. Oh, I know that. I know they backed it. Kim Jong-il.

the golf, you know about his golf game. So Kim Jong Il, just like how he planted every tree ever. Uh,

This was reported by North Korean state media. It was Kim Jong-il. In his first ever round of golf, achieved a score of 38 under par, including 11 hole-in-ones on the Pongyang golf course in 1994. Dude, they just, they upped that guy. Like, he is a god. Have you seen the meme where it's like, the North Korean dictator's superhero power is turning everyone in the room into a Wii character? Yeah.

because everyone's just jumping and clapping it's so good dude that guy did so much you know for any runners out there this year is the first time in six years they're bringing back the pyongyang marathon i did a video i did that part in my video and the jokes i mean they just write themselves

Pyongyang is the capital of North Korea. Yeah, but what? So they have a marathon there and they haven't done it in six years and they're inviting the world to come participate. Oh yeah, they just started like letting foreigners come to visit. Do they shoot them before they get to finish? There's always that chance. I'm not going there. You run or you die.

I'm not trying to get extradited to Russia. I have no clue, yeah. I saw that and I was like, these jokes write themselves. I'm still waiting for the UK to extradite me for all the shit I talk on Twitter. Oh, it's good. Apparently they said they were going to start doing that. I hope they send an unarmed cop to my house to arrest me. Excuse me, I'm a chain mail. I'm here to see a fat electrician. Are you in?

Where's your gun? Oh, we don't carry guns in the UK. Bye. We have this thing called doctor in law. Let me introduce you to my four-year-old with a .22.

Your kid gets a fucking stateside before you. Why does he have nightmares? It's gonna be so cool when he goes to school though. First grade got a teardrop. He's got a deployment patch of my front yard on his shoulder. It's your hat. It's just that.

It's just a UK flag with a tally mark underneath it. That's all it is. Dude, Iowa's gun laws and shit, and just like the culture, I would totally get away with it too. Oh, absolutely. I would be like, what happened?

Oh, yeah. No, you don't even worry about it. High five. The cops will give me a high five when I show up. A foreign nation trying to oppose their law here? So, like, because I have, like, five cops that are students, and Iowa is a standard ground state, which means... Well, it is a standard ground state, but they have mutual combat laws in Iowa. So mutual combat is literally, like...

you could just say you want to fight about it and walk out of the bar and if that follows you you're legally allowed to fight about it so that's different than stand your ground stand your ground is like when you're involving like guns and things of like you don't have a duty to retreat but um mutual combat combat laws like we can get with this fight like if i say do you want to take this outside and you say yes and you follow me and the cops show up and the bartender's like

That guy said, do you want to take this outside? That guy said yes, followed him out there. And then they got in a fist fight and that dude whooped that dude's ass like nobody's getting in trouble. The cops will show up and like referee it. It's like throwing down the gauntlet. Yeah, today's equivalent of a gentleman's beef. There was a dude, it was somewhere in the US. He found a weird obscure law. I remember reading this a couple years ago. I'm going to have to find it. He was like,

80 or 90 something years old and he got a traffic ticket and he tried to invoke trial by combat i remember that footage that was like i saw that i was like this is wonderful like dude you know he would do it like he'd be like fucking let's fight i think they just like dismissed the whole case they're like dude like we're not doing trial by combat for like an 80 ticket bro like just go on your merry way it's not a big deal get on camera

Is New York a stand... Mutual combat state? Duty to retreat. Duty to retreat? You have a duty to retreat. You have to try and retreat even if it's available, including in your own home. So that's like the opposite of a stand your ground? It's like, do not stand your ground. Yeah, give up the ground. Give up the ship as the flag... The ground? Not anymore. Hey, you ain't got no ground. Yeah. Wait.

Okay. That's the official. But I also like, I learned pretty recently that the stand your ground is not like all encompassing in different States like Wyoming, which is where my uncle lives. The only reason I know this, they view stand your ground. That is your home, your vehicle. And if you're a business owner, your business is a lot of castle doctrine too. Cause a lot of castle doctrine includes your vehicle in a lot of States. Yeah.

God bless America for the states that have that not New York, obviously, or California. I look, I don't know any other ones. But those are the two off the top of my head that I'm almost guaranteed. New Jersey is probably the same. Yeah. It's not a state. It's a made up state. Isn't it weird how all the states where you can like, get shot for being a fuckhead are all the ones that are the safest? Yeah. Isn't that strange? Well, I will say there's an incentive to not with people.

People don't get fucked with very much. Or detergent. Yeah, detergent. Something that's like close to that. I will say there's one state that's kind of like I pay very close attention to it is the state of Arizona. Very loose gun laws everywhere else outside of Phoenix. Super safe. Phoenix, not so much.

So like, that's the only caveat to that. Like everywhere that like the looser the gun laws are usually the lower the crime rate. And that's why I have an A6. My bedside, Nick. And you call it crazy. Does Phoenix, the city have a bunch of like crazy gun laws though? I don't know off the top of my head. Cause I know like Illinois, Illinois is pretty strict in general, but like the city of Chicago and the surrounding area has even stricter gun laws. Yeah.

So that could be like a municipal thing or county thing. Listen, Nicholas. Guns kill. Guns are dangerous. Yep, that's the whole point. I'm aware. Thank you for that. Pencil's right, fuckhead. Yeah, I got it. Guns kill. I sure as fuck hope so. I didn't spend all this money for nothing.

Oh my god, Rich is in frame now. Everybody say hi to Rich. Why are you picking on Ethan? Look at me! I'm Rich. I'm gonna walk in quietly in my Hoochie Daddy shorts and a Megadeth t-shirt and pretend like I'm not trying to be distracting with my magnificent mustache. Fuck you. You're flagging me with your balls. Don't do that. God, your hamstrings look good right now, though, bro. Your hamstrings look good right now. Yeah, you have very supple hamstrings.

You should have seen my tits yesterday. Oh, I saw that. I saw. I can't unsee that. That was the most disturbing thing. I did it for the lulz and stayed for the disappointment. Wait, what happened? When I put on the fake boobies. I missed something. Thank God. Do you know about the fake boobs? Yes. Oh, yes. Who thought I bought those? So it was like, Eli, what are these? It's like, Cody bought them. Yeah.

He got sent them from his PO box, no return address. So we got these fake knockers that you can wear, and Rich put them on underneath his shirt. And I got to say, from the neck to the navel, it didn't look bad. I did look like Bob from Fight Club. Bob had bitch tits. I will say, the hairy triceps were doing it for me with the humongous tits. It was like a hamstring.

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Go to selectquote.com slash SpotifyPod today to get started. I don't want to hold on to it, but never mind. I hope that doesn't awaken something in me. Why do I have Velcro gloves? Don't worry about it. What? What? You're naked. You're chasing him naked with fake tits with Velcro gloves. Most terrifying thing you've ever tried to think of. Richard running. Make it.

You unlocked a new fear. I didn't know that. You were like, yeah, I'm running around with Velcro gloves. I was like, ha! Oh, shit. And he could take it. Yeah, you gotta take it. Cappy, last time you were on, you got shit-wrecked. Now that I'm thinking about it. I did get absolutely indicted. Do you want to do a shot? Do you guys want to unlock the... I forgot that you got shit-wrecked.

He put down like a whole bottle of rum. I'm at home high on Percocet. I'm like high as shit. I had surgery like 18 hours prior. And I'm sitting in my Lazy Boy watching Justice League high as the Martian Manhunters. People are posing this fucking awesome. My phone rings.

It's Cody. Hello? Hey, Nick! And I forget what the f*** you guys asked me. You asked me. So I want- can I ask you now that you're here? Oh god, okay. I've been meaning to ask you this. My theory... So this is what I think prompted Donut to ask you that. Cody was- he heard me say...

You know, I think that the United States and China should join forces and run this shit. Oh, yeah, because Cody asked me that, and he's like, Nick, do you think that would happen? I was like, I don't know, but I bet the new iPhone would be dope. That was high as shit. I forgot about that. I completely forgot we called him. I was like, wait, Cappy was shit-racked last time. I forgot we...

I didn't realize how far Cappy was gone until after the podcast, we're standing at the island in the kitchen and he's talking to me. I get to a certain amount of drinks and then I start to say what I really think. And then it gets bad. Ready for a shot? Give me that bottle of Gentleman Jack and then we're going to talk about Palestine.

One shot later, he's like, it's the fucking Jews. I'll do a shot. I'll do a shot. Hey, let's do it. What are we shooting? Can I have rum instead? I'm not a fan. Yeah, well, there's rum. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'll have a shot of rum, por favor. Okay, two rums. I'll go grab the rum. Tequila or vodka? What are you doing?

Vodka or tequila, something light. You pick. I'll do whatever you do. Vodka. I've been drinking vodka. We do vodka. Okay, so what is this question? America and China should join forces. Tell me more. Why? Well, what I'm saying is, okay, America is an empire. We should accept that. And instead of trying to pretend that we're like, you know, oh, we're not. Democracy and rainbows. Yeah. Okay, I get it. Sure, we're the good guys. All right, but like,

Why don't we just embrace that? Us and China, if we join forces, hypothetically, like, who the fuck could fuck with us? Nobody. We could run this shit. Europe is like, shut up, Europe. You're gonna do what we want. I mean, are you correct that it would be unstoppable? Unstoppable is the right word. Yes. Do I think we should do it? No. No.

Yeah, on the real. I'm ideologically opposed to most of the shit they do. Yes. I don't want to make a deal with the devil just to be number one when I'm already number one. Just a friendly reminder to everybody in here, any plane that has canards is gay. Canards are gay. I hate canards. Although the Eurofighter Typhoon was a pretty good looking aircraft. For you too? Dunka. Do you guys want a shot? No. No.

Wow. I was like, Richard, I'm so... I'm gonna do tequila. You sit. I'm sorry. You sit. Yeah, I had a power nap. Yeah, you did. Nolan, Tackett, you guys weren't here. Maybe you were here. Were you here when I was talking about Eli's magic cabinet? No. On the podcast yesterday? Yes, no. Well, because you were there, so you would think it was funny when he went and got me the gummy, and then he went and got Tackett the other stuff.

And then I was like, okay, let's take it. That's just where he keeps his drugs. Did you already take it? And then he goes and gets like a protein bar. And then he goes and gets eight, six blackout ammo. Oh my God. We're going to get you a second one. Yeah. Oh my God. Sometimes I do things and I'm like, that's exactly what I said.

Cappy's like, like sometimes food will come and like I'm like halfway through it. Someone's like, I have not got- I sit him down and he just downs and he's like, oh, I forgot. I feel like sometimes I just like, do you have no social, I don't get like social cues. I fuck with Cappy. I fuck with Cappy. Oh God. I love it. I love it. Oh yeah. I don't get social cues. Oh dude. Dude. I got to tell you that story. The, the flight story. I got to tell. I have to, I have to.

My wife had a flight from hell. Don't worry. Oh my god. We got the shots and we got this war shit going on. Okay. To geopolitics. To geopolitics. To North Korea. Yeah, to North Korea. Bring great pride to the great Chinese. Vodka is just terrible tasting. It's gasoline. It's what you clean wounds with.

i should have done i will tell you that rum that coconut rum is not bad that's not bad it's kind of like okay i was gonna make fun of coconut rum this is 44 alcohol yeah that's good it's good that is strong like it's good that is really strong room yeah i'll take one of those waters uh sir nicholas i was trying to not get up today but man chokes on too late look at this too late gay boy

powerhouse. Richard, hi everybody. My boy. If you yell stop resisting three times in a dark room, Rich will show up. Just swinging at the air. Swinging at night. It's I know my rights three times. I know my rights. I know my rights. I know my rights.

I hate it so much. How many Buffalo PD members does it take to change a light bulb? Oh, none. They just keep beating the room because it's black. Oh, shit. I've done it before. I've heard it before. That's different. I'm sorry. I love you, Rich. Apologizing to me.

You rich? All right. Mr. K, we just watched your video on, uh, you just covered the one with the dude tossing a grenade and he ran out, or did that just come up? Yeah. Like, the dude, that was fucking wild. The combat footage analysis one, yeah, that, the trench warfare that they're in is just freaking brutal. The dude just barely dodges a grenade, runs it. Have you had, any of you know?

I've seen the thumbnail for it, but I haven't watched it yet. Dumps his face. Who's saying that? It was like a pumpkin exploded. We were talking about that earlier. Yeah, we were talking about it earlier. Yeah. His face went like this. So one of the reasons I feel like it's important to... Or for some people, it's important to see that. Because I think a lot of times you get a very sanitized look of war. A look at war. And unless...

A humane look at it. Right. It almost seems like glorified. It's like a movie like, oh, I got it. But I think it's good the more people see the brutal reality of it. There's nothing glorious about this dude just happens to run up and turns the corner at the right moment and it's a...

It's really just like a roll of the dice that he gets his muzzle in that guy's face before he happened to be switching from his grenade to his rifle. You said violence of action. That's always – I mean that's – you can't stress that enough. Violence of action is what wins a lot of the times. Do you remember how people are just like obsessed with room clearing? Everyone's like, oh, let's clear this. Let's learn how to kick the door in. It's like choreographed. We're all going to be like ballerinas.

Apparently that's not really the thing anymore. Now you just throw a grenade into that room. What are you doing clearing that room? That was the thing before America got super into rules of engagement. The Marines were really big on the let's throw a grenade in first. Think fast, shit-ass. Just yeet it in. Just close your eyes. It's a flash off. Just carbone is still one of my favorite things was.

Carbine's like, just pulls pins immediately. I got a grenade. Fucking get rid of it. Like, immediately. Bye.

Boom. As we switch to the mentality of peer versus peer war, it's like you're not going and clearing that room or building. You are flattening that building. You are going and planting C4 charges on that building. What are you doing going in and risking clearing it? Nope, it is CQB AT4s. Yes. Well, it's a lot easier when the bad guys wear a uniform. Fuck. I'm not going to lie. That's the one thing that I kind of get a chubby about is because we fought fucking

man dresses and sandals that hide amongst the population for 20 fucking years and i would love to be like looking at isr and be like that guy's in a russian uniform wearing that stupid armband let's send him to his god like do that fucking like the trench warfare it's like i didn't even realize until you pointed out they threw a grenade in that room that's why he rushed homeboy which

Which I don't know. If I was him, I probably – if someone were going to hit me, I would just freeze and just be done. And a lot of people would. But this guy had the presence of mind to decide to push up, which is unreal to think of. I'm going to go toward the guy that just threw that grenade. Got to assault through the ambush. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It really takes something. You talk about –

They're uniformed. So when I was in Ukraine, something that was a new experience for me was getting artillery by getting hit with Russian artillery, Russian grad rockets and Russian airstrikes. And I'm thinking, I'm like this. I feel like how the insurgents must have felt. But you had a microphone and a camera.

Camera guy never dies. You're fine. See? That's the principle that I went with. It's like, I'm holding a camera. It's crazy! That's why you can't kill me! I'm being murdered. I'm like, fucking Jesus Christ. Dude, the thing that I thought was crazy about his trip was that they were like, "Don't wear press. Russians hunt press." And so do the Ukrainians. Wait, what? Yeah! Oh yeah, the Ukrainians and the Russians were killing him. Hold on, I didn't know about this. Don't target the press. Yeah, dude, that fucked me up. Yeah. I took the press pass right off. I'm like, I'm not trying to make myself a target.

There are also a ton of Russian press getting killed. But I didn't want to go in. There's some press that go in. I mean, I don't consider myself press. I'm like, I was a war correspondent. I'm going and corresponding. I'm going and reporting on what's happening.

The crazy part of my trip was that I got to actually go to Russia. I got to go into the Ukrainian-occupied part of Kursk. Oh, yeah, you were in Kursk, yeah. Yeah. Which now, where I was, is now under Russian control at this point. But... Oh! Oh. Oh.

I thought it was funny. Rich is going to arrest me, put me in handcuffs and send me off to Putin after this. Taking hot dicks in the gulag. No, but they told me they were like, if you go there, there's a good chance. Like, don't go to Uzbekistan or Venezuela because they will extradite you to Russia because Russia is opening criminal cases, international criminal cases against anyone that illegally goes into their country. So, but I was like, you know what?

You only live once. Dang it. Now you can't go to Venezuela. I heard it's beautiful. My wife is so upset. Our honeymoon is ruined. Our plans. Didn't you say the whole time you were heading into Kursk, it was just like, like middle of the night, fucking foot to the floor, like giving it the beans to get there. So there were two like really bad missions that I went on. The one was the Kursk, which was broad daylight. Then the other one was the drone mission, which was pitch black. Off on a broad day.

broad daylight in an armored vehicle and it's like an hour from Sumy, which is the closest Ukrainian town. And the whole ride is just that...

road is really it's like holding a plank but with your butthole the entire time all cratered all shot to shit blown up and you're going on the moon you're not picturing but it slows you down and it slows the logistics down so all the supply trucks that are heading there and it is every truck that they have in ukraine they basically paint a triangle on you know it's all civilian a lot of ton of civilian trucks that they've repurposed as like brof

A bunch of 50 Cal in the back of this like just Toyota and drive it there. But they did each one was marked as military because that's like legally you have to do that. So you put the triangle on it, but that's the whole route. The whole route is just tons of trucks back and forth like thousands of them going day and night and the roads are torn to shit.

And there's no, you can't fix the, you can't take time to fix them because they'll get hit. So we're going at like a snail's pace, which it should take 30 minutes, but it ends up taking like an hour and a half. Get to the border. As you get closer, it's like just blown up Bradley's on the side of the road, blown up T-72s. Oh, I'll tell you guys like how the sort of how I got permission to go there because there's like no Western media was allowed to go there because

Okay, so let me start from there. No, dude, this is... This is the story that I couldn't tell on YouTube. So if I can really quick, it is going into Moktadia. We were on that 30-minute hour, or it was an hour, two-hour drive to there. It's like the moon. That's how I equate it. It is a moon, and it's just craters in the road. And when the ROE changed to, hey, you can just, if they look shady, shoot them. I was like, wow, wow, that's a new engagement. And you are like...

This is a real bad area. Because it looks like the fucking moon. The roads are just blown to shit.

so you know what i'm talking about yeah like a hundred percent it is yeah and you're like uh it's not a good it's not a good neighborhood i was i was holding on to the old the old shit handle for dear life as they're driving through there okay so the way i got permission to go there because when i went into ukraine my whole thought was like they weren't gonna let me go to the front because there's a lot of americans that go there and they're like this guy like he's just here to like you

you know, it's like war tourism, shit like that. There's a lot of people that they see there and they don't let go to the front. Essentially. You're going to tell me that somebody high ranking is a YouTube fan of yours, aren't you? No, no, no. It wasn't. Well, what would you do? Go to Trump. It was like, it was a little bit like that, but basically I got to, I didn't want to like, I didn't want to act like, Oh, I,

You can't fly into Ukraine. They'll shoot your plane down. And they've done it before. You have to fly into Poland, into Warsaw, and then take a 17-hour train ride into Kyiv.

And there's no men on that train ride because it is martial law. That shit is locked down. If you are a man, you are not coming in and out of that country. So it's just like women and children on that train ride. You get there. As you get more and more east, you start to see the signs of war. There's like bunkers. Get to Kiev. And I'm like, let's – so we hired this fixer, this guy on the ground who's like my producer, translator, translator.

And like, let's go, let's go to the front. Let's go to the front. He's like, no, spend one day in Kiev. It'll be worth it. I wanted to, I wanted to be like, no, I'm paying you. Like you got to do what I say. But then I'm thinking, I'm like, you know what? Maybe, maybe I should listen to this guy. Like maybe he's, he was born in Russia, lived in Ukraine since then for many years. Maybe he knows something I don't. Okay. I'll put my ego aside. Um,

Really glad that I did because when I'm there, we went out that night. I got annihilated with these Ukrainian intelligence guys.

It's basically like the CIA, but Ukrainian. You got drunk with them. Just completely obliterated. Don't use annihilated with war. Yeah. That's why I don't have my arm. Yeah. There was this drink that they have that I don't know what it was. It was kind of like a Red Bull vodka drink.

bizarre drink that got me, it got me turned. I just like, this is the day before you're going to the front line. Well, so the, so we're like making, I'm like making fun of Ukraine. He's making fun of America and bonding. And he's like, you know what? I like you, Chris, you're a good guy. Cappy. And I was like, I like you too. He's like, what can I, yeah,

Nothing says I like you like sending you into Russia on the front lines. I was like, he's like, what, what, like, how can I help you out? And I'm like, get me into, get me into Kursk. That would help. He's like, actually, I'm very good friends with the guy. Like I used to be in the same unit as the guy that's in charge of the Kursk operation. I'm like, sure you are. Okay. No. Like, all right, cool. You'll get me into Kursk. He's like, no, really. I'll, I'll set it up. All right, sure.

Then it really did happen. Drunk Cappy. Dude, past Cappy regret. Future Cappy hates. Cappy wakes up, sees a text, you're going to curse, load up. He's like, fuck. I can't imagine a worse text message to wake up to. Like, you're going to the front line in Russia. It's a formation I did not want to show up for.

Last night. Ugh. So, keep going. Yeah. I'm here for it. Yeah. What an idiot. I said, I'll stand by it. I go, wow, get drunk and volunteer for the Russian front. What an idiot.

I wanted to know what was really going on there. I wanted to know the truth. And uh... Dude, I love John Caffey. John Caffey's this! You're eye-jog this! He gets super stupid to Asian. Yeah. Oh, the truth comes out! One drink. One shot. Okay, go on. Alright, so... We meet in Sumi, which is like an hour. I told you guys we got across the border.

And the artillery fire... So as we cross the border, they're like, okay, this is the part where it's the worst part. Basically, the infiltration to the front. They're like, this is under enemy fire control. So if you look at what the situation was like in Kursk, basically, we're surrounded on three sides by the Russians. They're to the west, east, north, south.

all around us and they just floor it and they turn on their jamming device and it's loud as it's like ew thing that's i'm probably going to die early radiation yeah exactly okay

And I could feel my brain like a little bit get scrambled. Fuck. I'm like picking up FM radio from the States. And it is so that you're just flooring it down this road, you know, where you see the border situation. The border has like the, it says Russia on this big giant, like Soviet blocks that was probably made in the eighties. And it's the most surreal scene.

experience crossing that border and we get into suja and the outgoing right away as soon as i get out of the vehicle i was not prepared for like the outgoing even and it's just the explosions or she this you couldn't really see in the video but you feel the earth like move from the outgoing rounds from the 155 that they're sending out

constantly because basically they're doing covering fire because they know that okay we have the one American journalist coming in correspondent coming in and so I get to speak to some Russian civilians that basically anyone that's staying there at this point are people that they're like we've lived here forever and we're not going anywhere like this is my home that we built 30 years ago do you feel like the Ukrainians are occupying it

Russians are occupying it. This is like a very poor part of the region. And I asked them, like, why are you here? They get them in touch with their family. Like, here's your daughter. They're begging you to leave. And they're like, I'm not. I'm staying here. It's my home.

And that's basically the prevailing opinion of the Russians that I spoke to that were there. Like the Ukrainians, they had a mission with me. Like they wanted, you know, their propaganda purpose. They wanted to show the American audience that like, we're not there killing and pillaging. That was their goal, right? And my goal was to show basically, I wanted to show people the logistics of

Large-scale war like I wanted to show people and frontline. Yeah. Yeah I went I spoke to the Bradley guy the guys that run the Bradley's there the guys that strikers like that's the type of vehicle that I was in Iraq. I got to see it in Kursk the 80th air assault units that were like with the the Bradley's the Abrams there got to meet all those guys that are fighting on the front in Kursk and

And that was like my goal, show that story. Ukrainians have the story that they wanted to show. And the Russians have their side of the story that they are trying to tell. They're claiming that the Ukrainians are coming in and just killing everyone. It's like, yeah, of course, wherever war goes, people die. People are dying. Civilians are dying. I saw Ukrainians living out, you know, they're taking shelter in houses, right?

and the Russians are bombing houses straight up just like airstrikes on houses and Ukrainians are staying in them Russians are also using houses it's not like American military in Iraq we're on bases right but if we were to fight a near-peer war would not be able to do that we would be in houses and we would be hiding and distributed

So these are, these are the part of the reason why I went there is because I wanted to, I know, I understand like insurgency warfare. I get how that war, the logistics of it, but I wanted to learn and understand how does, how does a near peer battle? What's the logistics of that? How was the sausage made of that? And I got to see basically exactly how you have to fight. If you have to worry about missiles, right?

Hitting your infiltration. You know, you can't be on a base. It's fucking wild. Because we lived out. We did COBS. So it was. We lived with Populous. That was. That is a platoon. Or sorry. A company is all that lives out in sector. So that is. And your day patrols. You're interacting with the Populous. You're walking. You have. You're still from Balad. Whatever Eagle. Whoever your FOB is. You're not near them.

And you're interacting with the populace every day. You're trying to win them over and figure out what's going on. That is wild. On a front line. And then it's two countries fighting.

And both have a different like, hey, can we bomb that? No, we can't. And then their civilians are like, hey, I've lived here X, Y. I will never move out from this area. As a 68 Whiskey, you might find this interesting. The medic side of the story, so different where, you know, we were we feel lucky as like we can get them out within 30 minutes, an hour, right?

They're looking at, you get wounded. Like six hours. Yeah. It's like 17 hours, like 24 hours that they got the tourniquet on and they can't get them out of there on both sides. So that's just like, I mean, it's, it's tourniquet. That is like, that's a deadlift. You're losing a limb. Yeah. Isn't it like 50% Iraq, Afghanistan, US soldier is 5%, 10%. Yeah.

death rate 90 90 survival rate once you get to a board base and operate it on or anything like that versus it's like 50 50 for it's because of the drives so the fpv drones make it so that they cannot the kazevak cannot get to get them bring them out they're just like it's too risky we'll come get you

It seems less risky. And I'm not being a smartass here. And maybe you guys can let me know. Isn't attacking like... That's what I do. If they had a Red Cross, you're good. If they have a Red Cross, like even in World War II, like our medics didn't carry weapons. Now in the GWAT, they did because the Taliban are fucking... Sorry. I know we're going to have to blur that. I hate the Taliban. God, I hate them.

I think we have to blur that. I hate them so much. I'm almost positive medics carried weapons in World War II. World War II, I mean... They would carry medics, but as long as they had the cross, you were not allowed to attack that vehicle. Or as doctors, it was aid stations. Double check. Maybe in the Asian... Are you talking about, like, what's a war crime? Yeah, like, saving Private Ryan. The medic didn't even carry a fucking weapon. Yeah, just like... The war crime. He said she said. Yeah. Well, that's the whole thing. Like, yeah, it's near and dear, but, like, at the end of the day, like...

At this point in world geopolitics, you know, it's a war crime.

war yeah i mean like literally the whole conflict is a war crime because russia and jd ukraine like yeah all of war is a war crime so like the notion of like people bitching about that's a war it's just people that have no grasp on reality at all yeah acting like they know nobody gives a shit about their opinion you know i will real quick you watch the combat footage of the knife fight

I was about to bring that up. That's the only thing that I could not handle it. That one I couldn't fucking stomach. How long is that video? Two and a half minutes? Fifteen minutes? The full one. This is two soldiers and it's only them. There's no one around. Gunfight, gunfight, out of ammo. They go to knives and are fighting for fucking fifteen minutes stabbing each other, biting each other and it shows what war is like. It is...

fucking wild. The worst part is you hear later on the Russians interview the guy. He's from like he's from a tribe that's like really north. I'm going to get involved. He's a fucking...

he's he's like he's a cop he's not like a bad guy is the part he's actually the reason he went into the russian military is because he wanted to stand in for his kid basically yep he's got a kid that's like 18 years old that was going to get conscripted so he's like i'm going to go in the place of my child that's the only reason he was there

And you hear that and you're like, I don't even know how to feel anymore. Because I'm full of cards on the table. I'm very partial to Ukraine and the West and feel awful for what's happening to them. But at the same time, you hear that and you're like, oh my. Fuck, I'd have done the same thing. Right. Literally, the only thing that's making you the bad guy right now is the geographical location you happen to live. Because every...

dad would have made that same fucking decision. That was the one, like I can watch a lot of combat footage. I can watch a lot of people get blown up. I can watch him get shot. Like even like some of the close range stuff, like getting shot in the face. Doesn't bother me that knife fight. Like I had to come to Jesus moment. Like I showed it off and I was just like sitting there for like 30 minutes by myself. I was like, that that's, that's worse than anything I've ever seen. That is like, they talk, sorry. They talk to each other. He's like, you're the greatest fighter ever.

I've ever known. And the other guy's like, you know, he's like, sorry, brother, or something like that. They apologize. They talk to each other. He's like, just please let me die. Like, dude, it's insane. They're biting each other. Dude, it is fucking war. Like, if I could show anyone war, it's like, here, you want to know what war is? That is war when...

Guns don't work because they were shooting at each other. Out of ammo. Now it is a knife fight and now it is I'm biting you. I'm stabbing you. I'm wrestling with you. I'm cutting your hand and this is what war looks like and then it's still the respect for each other too. I'll say those drones are by far... So there's like... I'm sure you'll love...

talking you'll understand this very well there's like certain throughout history there's a couple of paradigm shifts in warfare right yeah like the machine gun black powder black powder steel yeah the tank maybe there's like five or six or whatever it is but uh i feel like drones are one of them it's one of those paradigm shifts where it's like this has changed the equation in some like really fundamental way and the crazy thing about the drones is that

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at the Pentagon, it was the one thing it's soldiers are going to have to start learning like three gun and then shotguns.

And I guarantee that is going to be part of the combat load is how do I take this out? Shooters could do it really quick. Soldiers are not going to be fucking, hey, here's I do this and I can operate on a 20 inch shotgun birdshot. Take it down. Most I do. It sucks to say I give 95% of soldiers a pistol. You're going to suck cock with a pistol pistol.

It doesn't matter. If you haven't trained with a pistol, it is the hardest shooting thing. Yes, you can shoot an M4 AR. I hand you a pistol, 9mm, doesn't matter. You are not going to be good. And then being able to pull that out from concealed or even open holster and then transition to a target, you cannot do it. I can do a...

Holster my fastest shot 0.55 seconds. From here to 7 meters, I can do a 0.55 draw to shoot on a beep. And then from an actual concealed, 0.92, 0.88 on average. That took fucking autistic level of training to get there. Now your average general shoulder... Oh, I... Dead. Yeah. Dead. Yeah, yeah. The last time I was here, I was talking about how when I deployed to Iraq, I was there during like...

It was kind of the gay part of the war. It was like the occupation. It was like IEDs on the ground. It was like all that nonsense. Yeah, we were not invading. It was not...

We had such different experiences. Yeah, you got initial push. You got some... I'll say this, your ROE was different than mine. But so now I would say like the war in Ukraine, that with Russia, like it is the gay part of the war. It is just drones. Like you cannot infiltrate to your position on the zero line in the trenches without a fuck ton of drones. Just...

with you it is the part of the war where it's like just stalemate can't move can't even get to your position like big old terrifying when it comes to like the the gun thing and this is maybe a video you want to look into because i just found out about it uh recently in nevada um benelli is great shotgun manufacturer us has used benelli for a long time they just designed a new shotgun specifically with a new shell for drones

They just designed it. So I, it's in testing right now in Nevada. And I know I, and what made me like kind of like look into that is you brought up an incredibly, like, I know you probably did it to be satirical on fucking Twitter, but it was a really important point. He was like, every single infantryman should have to shoot clay pigeons at basic training or something along those lines. They're starting to do that. Yeah. I was like, that makes perfect.

They're starting to do shotguns against drones in boot camp. Or not boot camp, but like, I don't know, I saw... We talked to the fucking Pentagon, like, the dude that's in charge of all future weapon systems. We talked about that to him. Here is my launch video. It's going to be about the Hunter Killer teams in the 101st Airborne. These guys on the ISV infantry squad vehicles...

They're the dudes that are getting the first guys that are getting the FPV drones, like attack drones, organic to the squad. 101st Airborne are getting those. It's these 100-kilo teams.

And also, uh, you have a squad. The whole, the whole new, the new doctrine is that you push out this recon team that does all your counter UAV and also your offensive UAV. It's like a separate platoon. Nick, do you know what this is? It's called war zone from call of duty because I just unlocked a drone. I'm doing that. And then I have that kill jammer. All I want.

All I want is for drone warfare to lead to the point where there's one dude in the squad and his job is to carry an M4 or whatever the fuck the army switches over to. And then he just has a big ass backpack full of bullets. And on top of the backpack is a nine millimeter little Gatling gun. This big. I just want a miniature sea whiz on the dude. Neck, neck.

20 shooting and drones. You're 22. How awesome would that be for drone defense? I tell you right now, drone defense is big in the air defense world. So like we have two counter UAS schools, but like every single day, they're like, how can we stop them? How can we stop them? How can we stop them? 100% a 22 mini gun that just you walk or a dude.

Joe Schmo, Private Joe, he has to carry the shit backpack. The shit backpack, I love that. It is what ships, what's the miniguns the ships use? The Sea Wiz. The Sea Wiz, yeah. R2FU, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Or they have the, they've been working on the freaking robotic mule, basically, is what it amounts to. But imagine if you just got to that point, or even a normal...

Mule, like, bring a fucking donkey with you and strap a little sea whiz to its back. I will say that was- Like, I went to the artillery museum. That was a thing. They put a small artillery gun on back of a mule. They tested it once. They fired it. The mule immediately panicked, like, injured the person in charge of it and took off running. So I mean, we may need to-

May need to like remanufacture. I feel like there's a difference between artillery and nine mil mini gun. I think a 22 mini gun. Yeah. The problem with that is it's rimfire rimfire ammos kind of for full auto. So I wouldn't trust it, but any smaller caliber, what's a 38 FN five, seven to be good for it.

Dude, that and then it's just like it's just automatic. It does like a C-Wiz. Yeah. Closing weapon system C-Wiz. And then the private mosquito wings has to carry that shit weapon system, but you're safe.

That's all I'm saying. They're watching right now. The boys? Best job I ever had. Write that shit down. I'm going to email Bo. We're going to move on past that because I have too many NDAs with my name on them to really go into too far. Kinetic systems is not really a big thing. Electronic systems. My unit in the National Guard, so 133rd out of the 34th Infantry Division,

came up with the iron man backpack because that was like our unit's nickname was the iron man and they we came up with the iron man backpack i wasn't in yet it was a group that was the iron man back iron man backpack when they did it they took the you know what it is yeah it's like a thing it's developed now the dudes that invented it got paid out for inventing it

And they took the, what's the fucking hard shell plastic thing for your back off a rucksack? The frame? Oh, yeah. They took a rucksack frame, basically, and took two .50 cal ammo cans and mounted it up by the shoulders and ran the helicopter belt feeder around.

And they just filled it with 5.56 or .308, whatever gun they had. And they ran it from the backpack straight into the side of the .240. And that's what their .240 gunner had. And they basically MacGyvered them. And all the 133rd guys in, I think they were in Iraq when they did it. It might have been Afghanistan. They were in either one. But they invented it. And they had multiple dudes running around with this .5.

240 inches. A belt-fed 240 with a helicopter strap coming off their rucksack, and that's what they were carrying in battle. And the Army's like, give those guys a check. We're taking it. Real quick, before miniguns, you know, a movie, a backpack thing? Miniguns, they shoot blanks in those movies to control a minigun. I have video of somebody shooting a minigun.

With 7.62? Blanks. I have videos of me mag dumping a minigun. What? 100 rounds, 120 rounds a second, or...

75 rounds a second, 3000 rounds a minute, give or take. There you go. Autism. Yeah. Now, the difference when you actually put real loads, not blanks. The recoil is much different. Bro, watching. We have it on video. It's like we test if we did a burp with a human holding and like braced. Boom, bigger guy.

It goes like this. And we have big, big, big hitting right in front of his foot and then letting go. He's like a big dude? Yeah, and it was instantaneous. Had to let go of that fucking trigger. We're like, oh, oh my god. Because I remember we were all filming it and then I looked over at people on the right side. I was like, actually, you all get over here real quick. And they're like, wow. I was like, trust me. Okay.

It just whipped right instantaneously. And you're talking about 0.2 seconds. It is 1, 2, 3 at the ground kicking to the right. Terrifying. 240, way more manageable. I bet Nick could do it. They have it all over DVIDS. Yeah. Don't be a bitch. It's a beautiful thing. I bet you could do it. They have the DVIDS video. I might have it on my DLI. Now that's fucking gangster. Yeah.

They used still the minigun platform, though. Yeah. And they just fed a 240 Bravo. They just fed it straight into the 240 from their backpack. I mean, think about it. You don't have to carry a 50-round starter belt if it's all linked together. A 50-round starter belt. Yeah, this is literally my unit. So the Red Bulls. The dude's got the Red Bull on his helmet. Yes. That's the one. Here's the actual one from my unit. Step one. I have never seen this fucking thing. Step one. If you're on gun team, rip a belt. But that's actually not bad at all. That's actually...

That's way better for a 240. It's like the convention for defense. Yeah, so they tried copying that basically. A bunch of defense companies after that showed up at AUSA with belt-fed 240s, link-fed, trying to get that contract. I think the Futures, I really liked for the next generation weapon.

I really liked the, I think it was General Dynamics. It came out with the plastic cased ammunition. I thought that was genius. I thought the guns were ugly as fuck, but the idea of plastic cased ammunition. White ammunition, man. They used to just injection mold a thousand rounds at once. That was my biggest complaint being on gun team is how heavy.

240 Rammo is. I got to go and test the fire of that weapon. First of all, their one has like a recoil mitigation. So you barely feel the fact that it feels like a full 7.62 round, basically. You shoot it, you can pick up those rounds. And you know, when you pick up hot brass, those were cold rounds.

Wasn't that part of the issue though? They had an issue dissipating heat because a lot of the heat from the gun when it fired was carried out of the gun in the brass. So I have to assume, based on the fact that they didn't win the contract and that Sig did, I just have to do the reverse math. It's got to be some issue with that, right? I have to assume that...

after they fired it uh x amount of times that the barrels wore out faster or something plastic is melting in there i would something like i don't know it was probably a similar issue that the abrams has so the the abrams shell right the 120 that we use oh yeah you showed me that before i always forget yeah uh so the abrams shell itself all that is actually metal is the bottom of it it has a stick in the middle it's called the aft cap

for the 120. The rest of it is literally hardened cardboard that burns up in the tube. The downside of that is if you're slinging rounds all day, your round can expand in the chamber and you can't extract that round for any such reason. Most of the time they tell you just kick it into the breach as hard as you possibly can and shoot it anyways. But I assume that something with heat was probably along the same route. Like,

I don't know. If they could figure out a way to make the plastic absorb some of that heat though, and just have the lighter ammunition, like even just from like the war manufacturing aspect of like,

And being able to injection mold a bajillion cases for ammo. I would say that like, if you like for plastic, especially if you get a hot gun, probably really increase their rate of runaway gun. I would shoot in the dark and say that might've had something to do. I don't know what the issue was or if there was, if I, if I had to take a shot in the dark, I would say at the very least, like you're the military, you're switching weapons. Yeah.

You're going to want to go with the least amount of uncertainty and switching to a polymer case would be very, very different. Like that's... Are we still doing the 6.8 Fury thing? Because I hate that round. That's what they're doing. I hate it. So they're not just... It is... You look at the... What do you call it? Like the documents coming out of the... The US military has to release certain like budget documents and we know that...

2025 they're spending a boatload of money on the on the switch and

I hate that ammunition. The thing that's weird to me is it's a lot more recoil. It's... So it's... It's a really over-pressured round. And if you look at the actual... So, like, they make 6.8 Fury that can fire in this gun that's, like, normal. But the whole point of it was to be able to penetrate body armor for near-peer. And to get the effect they want against body armor, they have to have the real ammunition that's, like, not for, like, training and shooting and targets and shit.

And the real ammunition, it's like brass, and then there's like a steel base, and then there's the...

Um, the primer and they had to have that steel base because this round is so over pressured that it would fuck up the primer and it would cut the ejection and everything. So it's like brass steel primer round and the round is like super over pressured. And then for the, you know, like green tip has a steel pin in it to be able to punch. It's a tungsten pin and that's what's punching through the armor.

But the problem is from like the war logistics side, like if World War III breaks out and we got to produce a bajillion rounds of ammunition, guess where we get tungsten from? Russia. China. Oh, fair enough. Who's allied with Russia. It's just like...

well you're building the whole battle plan off being able to get this rare metal that we can only get from the people that we would most likely be fighting in a near-peer engagement it just seems insane to me and then also you look at the russian forces going into the fight and you're like they're they don't all have body armor all the time and how much of a how much of a factor is their body armor in the words of ron white

Does he have body armor on his head? Yeah. Shoot him in the fucking head. Dude, no. Well, so now... Dude, shout out to Kevin. Thank you. The 8.6 subsonic AP rounds are now a thing. Oops.

subsonic ap around subsonic this goes this this punches through level four armor like it's fucking nothing subsonic so you do not hear so their argument if i were to make if i were steel man yes their case right advocate please okay so their argument is that you've seen the fire control system on it that uh i also don't trust computer sure like let's let's say best case scenario

Basically, they're arguing like, okay, we've got these drones that we'll send up and we will spot the enemy at 600 meters. And we're going to engage them before they can engage us. And the idea that they're arguing is like with that fire control system, someone like me who's – I'm not a great shot. I'll be able to hit someone 700, 800 meters away whereas I couldn't before.

And that's like the whole doctrine behind it, right? Is it like we're not doing the room clearing anymore? We're hitting them out further. I hate that.

What do you hate about it? I just, I hate that, like, why don't we just bring back, like, an actual squad fighting element? Like, the loadout is insane. It's like, we got one dude with a machine gun, one dude that helps a guy carry the ship for the machine gun with an M4. We've got a guy with an M4 and a grenade launcher. We've got three more guys with M4s, and one of them's a medic.

Like, why don't you just have machine gun guys, grenade guy, designated marksman with an actual gun and he's talented and can reach out to that distance in those situations instead of trying to like cookie cutter to make every mother or super soldier that's capable of engaging 700 fucking yards away.

That is the very good counter. So would you agree that that M249 replacement is pretty dope, though? Yeah. Yeah, I think everyone can kind of agree that, like... It don't take much to outdo the 249. Right. We should have been rocking the Stoner 63 for the past 40 years. I don't know what we're doing with the Saw. Absolutely. Yeah, like, I think...

So that's the weird thing about military procurement was that it was part and partial in that, okay, if we're going to replace the M7, so what I think will actually end up happening is that exactly what you were saying, which is like they'll give the XM7 to...

squad designated marksman and then m4 will still be around a bunch and then you'll see the m249 see you later bye maybe even the m240 gets replaced 240 got replaced by the uh 338 norma which if you want a terrifying machine gun the 338 basically can replace the 50 in some instances yeah and you can walk and shoot it with so i got to test fire that yeah i got to test fire that and shooting it you

It feels like shooting the 240. The recoil mitigation is a... It's... It feels like you're being gaslit by the recoil. You're like, did I just shoot you? Did I? I guess I did. It's like... That's an 8.6 blackout. That is subsonic. You can... We can... That's a chode of a... 400 grain bullet.

subsonic will do ap rounds too so that will the ap subsonic round went through four plates of ar 500 and more terror more fucking terrifying you can i i have mag dumped 25 rounds at 50 yards all hit steel plate full auto

*burp* *burp* There's zero f***ing recoil. You know, I'm glad Q is like on America's side. I really am. Somebody says "just the tip" with this. Oh dude. It's a lot of tips. Oh dude, and what they do is... *fwa* *fwa* We're talking guns. I'm not very good at guns. I'm a missile guy. The front just f***s sh*t. I like it's just a missile at the front. That is absolutely terrifying. F***ing death flower. Yeah.

And then when you watch it, that's one of those. No, no. Even more terrifying is like, it is, it was my bedside again. Now I have a 300 and that is my bedside because Nick was like, Nick did the test of what it goes through. Subsonic everything, everything goes through everything for hunting or anything. Subsonic for the longest time, you would never hunt with subsonic because it inhumane because it's traveling under this. Yeah. Like the sound barrier. It's not going to, it not going to kill a could maim or injure instead of kill. Um,

That thing, though, Nick was like, well, we're going to do a video. Nick, what stopped it? Four five-pound gummy bears and a slab of ballistics gel, which sounds stupid. Gummy bears are OP. You're not going to believe me. I have all the videos up on Pepperbox. Guess how... Do you know this? No. Okay, guess how many five-pound gummy bears it takes to stop a 12-gauge at point blank. Five-pound, five-pound. Like, big, big five-pound. Three? Yeah.

Cappy, one, one. And slug. Are we talking birdshot point blank? I mean, that's still, I'd expect at least two. It catches the wad and everything. Fuck. Nine mil FMJ. Yes. Point blank. Uh, sorry. Two. Five, five, six FMJ. Five, five, six has got to be at least three. No shit. Gummy bears. Five pound gummy bears. We've been testing the ballistics of five pound gummy bears and they are bulletproof.

One five-pound gummy bear stops a 12-gauge at point blank. One stops a 9-mil FMJ point blank. So I can stop wearing body armor and just start wearing – You put gummy bears on. Yeah, it's edible body armor. It's delicious. So to give you that idea, that's how resistant – the other one we did was we did four gummy bears with three feet of ballistics gel behind it. 308 point blank, full metal jacket.

We caught it in the ballistics gel after it went through four gummy bears. And that's what it took to catch eight, six, which this is what the eight, six does when it hits. A gummy bear. Anything apparently. So, and the other thing is eight, six, the twist rate on the barrels, one to three, instead of like one to eight or one to 10. So it's spinning like crazy. So you're literally just hucking blenders at people. It is. The physics of it. We were trying to catch this.

And before we switched over to gummy bears, we took a support beam from a barn four inch thick hardwood support beam. I thought I missed because I thought my, I was so close. I thought my ACOG was off and I thought it, cause I hit steel behind it because we had steel targets up behind like 40 yards back. I thought I shot over and hit one of the steel targets, went dead center, went through the beam through three blocks of ballistics gel and

40 yards downrange hit the steel target. It sounded like a fucking car wreck. It's the only reason I actually changed. It's still on my bedside, but I have now like 300 back at my bedside because I was like, huh?

Maybe not the bedside because it's just going to go through. I was like, holy shit, that's just going to keep going. You and your cover. I was like, what the fuck? Dude, that is nuts. It is wild. Well, Mrs. Linecrosser, I'm buying one of those. I love my 45-70. I love it. I'm a lever gun guy. Do you know Henry put out a magazine fed 5.56 lever action? It's stupid. There's no reason to own one, but I want one. I like lever guns.

This has been a really good episode. Once Nick gets back, we'll go to the after show. We'll do like a 10-minute after show. Oh, I got it. Because we missed like three. I got to do the story. Can we save it for the after show? If you want to, yeah. I would love that. Okay. Dude, this one went two hours and 20 minutes. I was surprised. I looked down. No, no, Chris. You had us all captivated, bro. Dude, you hooked us. I looked down. I was like, oh, that's great. That is amazing.

Like, that's the thing. I wasn't, like, just trying to butt in to try and, like, spice things up. The thing I feel bad about that story is I feel like I'm just, like, I'm just going on and on. No, dude. I was like, please do not stop. That is the shit where you're just... It is captivating. And it's so relatable, like, from my perspective, and then you see everyone else's perspective. It's just...

It's a different type of warfare that I've never experienced. Like, I mean, hell, you've never experienced it. I'll tell you guys sometime about the drone mission too, which is the one that was actually... I was way more scared on that one. I'll tell you some... If you guys want to hear about it sometime, that's like the... Maybe a brief on the after show. We'll see how long. Yeah. It is... Drone warfare is the most terrifying fucking thing to me. I am so glad we didn't have to deal with that in GWAT. I'm so fucking glad. To answer your question, I don't think this is like...

paradigm shift on par with like gunpowder the tag the drones yeah why do you say that oh it's just so like my brain like goes to like jujitsu so like every just who asked you

I tend to, I feel like I agree with you that it won't necessarily in the end when it comes to America be that way. Yeah. I mean like in MMA or whatever, there's, there's always like some hot new technique that becomes meta for a short period of time and nobody can figure it out. And then the second,

somebody figures out the counter and everybody learns that. It's just, it's always because it's one move. It's the same play. It's not like a dynamic thing. It's once you figure out how to counter it, it's just countered and you move on. So like once I, it's either going to be like jamming technology or like miniature C whiz or whatever, it's going to get to the point where it's just like, this isn't,

a world shifting event it's literally like once we know the counter it's just another box we have to check to make sure that's not going to happen so it's funny you say this is exactly how i feel about it i feel like what we're witnessing it's it's always the the sword versus the shield right and when there's a new sword whatever that is like that has the uh advantage for whatever time it is but then what you're talking about like once the shield catches up

It's there. Yeah. And I would argue the same thing you're saying is that like when I'm, so for instance, if America was in this fight, I think it'd be very, very different. Like, I don't think we're giving Ukraine the EW tech that we have because if it falls into Russian hands, like no good. Yeah. I agree that like we are counter UAS and like, what do you call it? You know, counter close air support and,

would perform very differently than Ukraine's. Just because of the sheer number of assets. What we're seeing right now, everyone's like, oh, it's all about the FPV. No, I think if America was in this fight, it would not be a trench warfare. Trench warfare happens when there's a stalemate. So I agree with you. Yeah, I think... Is it a paradigm shift for this fight and these two adversaries? Okay, maybe. But yeah, we'd have to see...

What is it really in a – yeah, like how would America's systems perform against this? Because first of all, Ukraine doesn't have air power like that. So would it even devolve to like close range FPV strikes? We don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, I – Nick, close us out. We'll go to the after show and finish this off as –

I love this episode. Thank you for coming to the unsubscribe podcast. I've been joined here today by my cohost, Mr. Eli double tap Ethan, Mr. Habitual line crosser and Chris Cappy from now Cappy army and rich being a bitch in the corner. Thank you so much for coming. Join us over on Patreon for the 10, 15 minute after show. And I will see you guys later. Love you.

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