BANNED! My Interview With Ye (Kanye West)
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All right, guys, now it's time for a conversation that so many of you have been waiting for. Candace plus Ye. I guess it kind of starts with a time machine. I got to take you guys on a time machine back to October 3rd, 2022, a day that will live in infamy. Me and Ye premiering shirts at his fashion show, which read White Lives Matter. Definitively a moment I will never forget. We

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Never asked me about wearing any shirts when I was there. We were backstage and he sort of held up the shirt and he was really in the creative process. There were tons of models running around and he just said, I need you to wear this. And I said, sure, because I knew instantly what he was trying to do and what he meant.

Shortly thereafter, though, everything changed. And obviously, aside from people being angry at us wearing the shirts, then it shifted into this conversation about Ye and his anti-Semitism. And I can say definitively that it was the toughest moment in my entire career. I had never felt more pressure externally from the media and from friends for me to condemn Ye.

I didn't take the bait. I didn't take the bait because, as I have said many times, Ye had opened up to me about some things that were happening in his life. And you're going to hear in this conversation what those things were. And you can understand how someone would feel if they were subjected to the things that Ye was subjected to.

I, of course, wanted the world to hear it back then. I had invited Ye to come on my podcast at the time, and he was slated to come on. But the evening before, I found out that that was not going to be a possibility. The network that I was on didn't think that I was the right person to interview him because of our friendship issues.

And he was really upset. He was very upset. He essentially said that my voice was being controlled and something overtook me in that moment. And I said, look, Gay, I obviously cannot overrule this at all. If I had my own platform, I would obviously host a conversation with you, but I don't have that right now. I do not have that right now. But what I

do have is a camera. I have a friend who knows how to run a camera and we can just record this moment and we can lock this in a time capsule. And one day I will have my own platform and I will premiere this conversation. And that day is today. When I say that it was a tough moment, you were even looking at me when I watched this conversation back, you can just see it on my face. I was postpartum. There are very few times, I'm not a crier. I definitely am not a crier. I

That's not how I express emotions, but I remember going through this period and there was a moment when, because I was postpartum, ladies know you have that moment where your hair sheds postpartum. And I remember dealing with the press cycle with Ye, dealing with friends and followers who said they wouldn't support me ever again unless I came out and condemned him, making a decision not to condemn him and standing in the shower and my hair was falling out in clumps. And I just said, please, God, please.

And I was just crying hysterically, have mercy on me. Please just have mercy on me. I just need to get through this moment. I'm a breastfeeding mom. I can't take any more. My show's just gone five days per a week. Make it stop. Make it stop. And now I look back on that and I just think everything happens for a reason. And whatever inspired me to say, let's just put on a camera, turn on a camera here and record and have a conversation and lock it up in a time capsule.

It was because that was exactly what needed to happen at that time and a better moment for people to hear what Ye was thinking and what he had to say is right now. So guys, I invite you to listen to this conversation, Candice plus Ye. It was recorded on October 17th, 2022. I hope you like it. ♪

I'm happy. Happy to do it tonight. Yeah. So, yeah, it's better than doing it in the morning. I'm obviously not the best morning person. We were talking about doing a God cast for a while, actually. This works. Why did the word God cast come to you? We're on a podcast. It had God in it. Okay. So it wasn't an ego thing? People say, oh, yay, yeezus, God cast. Is there any messaging in that? Just the more we could say God cast.

The better. The more we can say God and the media, the better. Yeah, I agree.

So I think one of the things that's the most interesting I want to dive in this way is people don't actually understand. There's there's something about you and I coming together that the media can not stand. Right. Like it is. It's actually fascinating to me. I called you super stressed out like three nights ago. It's just like, what the heck am I going through right now? Like it's another like level thing.

That you graduate into when we're talking about yay and we're talking about the media. I don't think people understand when I say the attacks come from every angle, every side, every regard. They'll attack you on your children. They'll attack me and my relationship. They'll go after family members. My dad called me stressed from Hawaii. Wow. Yeah. He called me stressed from Hawaii. It's so funny that you said that.

You remember I talked about the gray hat and the gray hat hitting your table?

Read the last text from my dad out loud. We talked about the miracles. Read out loud the last text. Wow. When do you want me in Hawaii? That's wild. Well, my dad's in Hawaii right now. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And he called me stressed up. He went, he picked up. He was just like, Candace, what is going on? Then I actually started laughing. Like it was kind of,

Like comedic relief because my dad is not really like that. And he was like, I'm reading all these headlines. And my sister was texting me. My uncle, like the whole family has just been texting me like, are you good? And... All hell is broke loose and all heaven has come through. Yeah. Yeah.

In a way, yeah, it is. It does feel like all hell has broken loose. And the last time I went through this, though, it was a similar thing. It was like, for some reason, the game of life was just like Candace and Ye are not allowed to come together. Why? I mean, it's the impact. It's the gut feeling. It's the intuition and the intellect. It's the...

gut with the information. It's the idea, it's the study. And that's how other people have risen to forms of power. God is the only power and we are vessels. God is a true artist and we're the vessels. And he's calling for me, for us to lean into

these combinations, what they do is they'll do everything to keep the artists away from each other. Like when me and Demla were next to each other, it was such a powerful combination. When me and Ken were next to each other, that was a powerful combination. When me and Jay-Z were next to each other, it was a powerful combination. So I love these moments of like these powerful combinations together and whatever feel

you do for like the futurist, the people who can see what the future is, the kids 20 years younger, 40 years from now, 80 years from now, when they see this, that's a big thing is lean into those people that everyone tells you, like, you don't need to be next to that person, but you have something in your heart and your gut on why you should be next to that person. I've had people like, uh,

like comedians that you know of have called me and said, stay away from Candace Owens. And, you know, like literally my, I guess you use the term friends, have done the same to me, even to the point where I'm going to be on Bill Maher this week. I'm going to be on Pierce Morgan. I'm going to be on, I was just on Chris, how do you say his last name? Tonight. Chris. Coe.

Let me see. Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo. Wow. You did Chris Cuomo? Yeah.

Tonight, like 30 minute segment, half talking, half a little bit back and forth arguments. And then when you're landing, they're saying, oh, I can't be on Daily Wire, but I can be on all these platforms. And you said downstairs that they told you the reason was, is you weren't going to push back on me enough. Like Chris was saying stuff like you need to understand and you need to behave. And he said that at one point in the interview, I said, well, let's play that back.

You need to behave. You're not supposed to talk like that out loud, Chris. We know that that's what it is. And I was just talking to my girl. She was in the car listening to me while I was doing the Zoom, this live Zoom. And afterwards I said, this is the way I felt in Hollywood the whole time I was there. People were telling me, you need to behave. You cannot wear a red hat. You cannot talk to...

to Candice, you cannot say how you feel out loud. Like today, they took down my Drink Champs. They took it off of whatever platforms, YouTube, Drink Champs, Revolt. And they also took me off of the Balenciaga sites. And I just looked at my girl and said, yo, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Like, I'm so happy because...

I have this freedom from beholding to these brands that say, "We only rock with you under these conditions." Like, we can have you be a Black person, but only a Black person that says, "That's wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt." Which at this point, now that I've worn a White Lives Matter t-shirt, I'm totally fine with wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt, you know, because all lives matter. But even All Lives Matter,

would have, you know, I, I cut what I'm saying is trying to thought. No, no, you're making perfect sense to me. Um, I had two thoughts today. The first, uh, well, I had a lot of thoughts. I didn't just have two thoughts today just to clarify, but I was thinking earlier about when is the first time that I heard yay was mentally ill. Right. So I grew up on your music. Obviously everybody knows like, you know,

Like when you first were spinning through the wire, you know, and you had a remarkably long career in the public sphere and nobody had ever called you mentally ill. Right. And now, no matter what you say, when you don't exist under, uh,

I would just call it Hollywood terms. Their number one rebuttal, if you have an idea, you're saying things like, well, he's mentally ill and he already said it was mentally ill because he said it on this podcast. And therefore we don't have to listen to anything else that he has to say. I can see we've raised eyes mentally ill. And so I actually researched when is the first time that the public sold us this and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was in 2017 that they said that you are

Went to the hospital and you were bipolar. It was 2015. Sorry, pardon. 2015 when Trump was... Yeah. About to... Right when Trump got elected, I went to the hospital less than a week after that. Because the entire time while he was running, people told me that my life would be over. I would be on the wrong side of history. You know...

Like literally people threatened my life and told me, me, I did not stand up and say, hey, this is what I believe in. And that's who I am. That's who I, that's what my character is. So I think that. They made you think that. Yeah. It's like, it's like how people, they said the reason why I couldn't be on Daily Wire is the, is the Israelite comment. And I,

Every Black person is fine with calling ourselves Black and being called Black. But when I bring up the idea that we're Jew because we are from Africa, the Bible is set in Africa, then it's challenging. And we talk about on the George Floyd documentary, it's called The Greatest Lie Ever Sold, the idea that Black people are not Jew.

is the greatest lie that's ever sold because you don't see the Jewish abortion rate at the same level as the Black abortion rate. 50% of Black deaths a year is actually abortion.

You don't see the Jewish divorce rate at the level of 70 something. You said the percentage percent of black moms raising their kids by themselves. You don't see Jewish people shooting each other down in the street on Worldstar and they're rapping about it. It's just that there's not Jewish content like that. And also Jewish people do business together. And that's what I said on the drink tramp. Say these are things that I'm envious of.

I think the first thing that someone would say if you said that, right, is same for Chinese. You don't see Chinese people shooting each other. You don't see Chinese people with this super high divorce rate. You don't see Chinese people and Japanese people and Korean people and...

Hispanic people ish, but no matter what, nobody's rates of violence and abortion are as high. White America, forget Jewish America, white America don't have these same rates. Right. And so they ask why, why isolate Jewish American population? Well, for black people. Okay. With the rates of that ours being higher, we're still, you know, you go see the slave movie, you see like a slave get their teeth pulled out in front of another slave. We're still getting our teeth pulled out because,

Literally, in jail, I have friends whose family members went to jail and they got killed by an officer. And then the officer all of a sudden quit and they're not there anymore and stuff. So they can't do the trial. So we're getting left and right still treated like slaves and

The reason why I specifically say the Jewish people is the Jewish people, like how the Armenians worked in a meatpacking district, the Jewish people came into power in the 80s.

Truly, you know, when the divorces started happening because of Wall Street, because the Catholic lawyers wouldn't divorce people and they came into money the way how the darker Jews, the black people are coming into money now. And they had to. And they did a great job. They colluded. They did.

Before that, they were very involved with the civil rights movement, which actually the movement was it moved Blacks from being Republican over to becoming Democrats. That was what the movement, that's where the move happened. And now everyone's, why are you calling them out specifically? When I said DEFCON 3, I didn't get an opportunity

to say what that meant, but it meant I'm going to call out all these things that have been done to me specifically by Jewish people that so happened to be businessmen or businesswomen, but still it was done by Jewish people to me, to the darker Jew, and I was going to go one by one. And the reason I said it like that is just to say,

I know you guys are going to call this anti-Semite and I'm not afraid of that title. Now I'm going to lean into that title. So call me whatever you want because you call me void already. What's the definition of black? Void of color. Some people, you know, artists may say it's all color and it could also mean like, it's like what they did when I ran for office and they showed me on the TV and they like blacked my face out and they had me be void. And I think that

a jewish people always will tell you about the trauma and the holocaust so one of my favorite lines on the drink champs you actually hit me about this is when um dove trani said hey i want to take you to the holocaust museum and i said i want you to go to our holocaust museum planned parenthood like we're still in the holocaust 6 million jewish people died in the holocaust over 20 million

darker Jews, Black people have been aborted. More babies are aborted in New York at this point than born at this point. And my thing about the media, the majority of the media, over 50% of the media, at least probably 80%, but over 50% of the media is run by Jewish executives. And they allow all of this abortion stuff

and driven content that more affects um it affects uh the darker jew the black people more than any other race

But then you ask the question, you can't even Google, like when you Google Jewish abortion rate, it'll be one piece of information. The next information is like from four years ago or something. There's no information about it. And if I try, attempt, my mom said try and it's failed. If I fail by attempting to have a conversation with a Jewish person about the abortion rate, they won't allow the conversation to be had. That's why I said, hey, I'm me-tooing the Jewish population.

that saying, hey, you guys got to come up and say, did you do this or did you not do this? And I'm calling a lot of times to say, people feel like I'm very selfish driven because I'll talk about things I specifically went through. So I said, okay, well, I'm this voice for the actors, the musicians, the athletes, specifically I know are in situations where at least four of the people that they do business with are Jewish and those people know each other

and the athletes come and go and that four, five, six, eight people remain. The athletes come and go like, like cattle's in the stable. The actors come and go. The musicians come and go. And that mainstay of that Jewish, just say crew, because it sounds less ramped up than mafia, right? The mob sounds less mentally ill. So let's say there is definitely a crew involved.

And I've been there and I've been talked to certain kind of ways. And you know who else wouldn't be talked to a certain kind of way? Kobe Bryant. You don't get talked to a certain way. I don't get talked to a certain kind of way. So things that I'm saying out loud, hyped up or calmly, I'm saying things five times a day that...

Black people, leaders, not specifically Black people, just leaders throughout time have been killed for things that we're doing five times a day. So one thing for the Black community and all of this woke culture and Charlamagne and different things, it's like, bro, this is getting ridiculous at this point. People got to put some respect on the fact that I'm actually brave enough to say this out loud.

Like that's what's lit. That's what God is inside of me. That's why I feel so good to be used. You didn't get me to a point. Y'all call me so many names.

You've disrespected me for three years. Forbes wouldn't call me a billionaire. It is important if people are calling me crazy to be like, oh, but I'm a billionaire because it's like, it's not me being classist. It's just me fighting against that saying, okay, you're calling me crazy, but I must be doing something right now. I'm not doing something. I'm doing everything right. And then to reach people.

to the concept, the idea of being the richest Black person ever. And we're just at the beginning of, you know, George Farmer was so elated by the response that we were getting. And then Elon Musk was retweeting what's going on or tweeting about what's going on today. And it hit Bloomberg and it's top trending. And I said to my chief of staff, give me a plane,

I'm going to Nashville right now. And the feeling is right. Then we went to a restaurant and the restaurant literally had all the same letters of the name my mother gave me. It was K-A-Y-N-E.

So that's another, it's like you're talking about your dad with Hawaii. And I had to, you know, you guys saw that. You saw me hand the phone over, like David Blaine. I couldn't have written that. My dad is like, because the funny thing is, where is your dad in Hawaii? Because I have this feeling like, let's go to Hawaii because I made really good music in Hawaii. And I just want to go to Hawaii.

Hawaii and actually do what Jewish people love the best out of me is make music and make people really happy. That's interesting because I think what's missing in the conversation and the media trying to spin what you're saying is that you are talking about an industry where there are Jewish executives. And that's the first time I've actually heard you say Jewish executives. And I think before...

The way that they were trying to sort of callously interpret it was that you meant every single Jewish person in the entire world. A person from up on the street has this power. But you live, I mean, you have lived for a very long piece of your life, at least in Hollywood. And what is weird to me and where I'm trying to play catch up is that there was a piece in the LA Times written by a Jewish guy named Joel...

um, Stein. And he said, who, who runs Hollywood? Come on, man. And he's Jewish guy. And he wrote about how all of the executives in Hollywood were Jewish. And that piece wasn't called antisemitic. But yet now, if you say that part, if you say that a lot of the executives, especially in, in music, I thought this was something that people knew. I've heard this in Jay-Z's music before. So I was very surprised that there was this

Oh my God, how dare he say this? And it's anti-Semitic for him to say this. And how can you say that? I think what you're talking about is that every piece of what you have created has been owned by a Jewish executive and that there are a lot of, there's a disproportionate amount of Jewish executives in Hollywood. Like if I was going to get my nails done, I might say there's a disproportionate amount of Vietnamese people wearing the nail salons. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what happened, but they got here and they were like, we're going to do nails. You know what I'm saying? Black people in the end.

Right. Yeah. So why is that? Why is, are we allowed to say that if I, like I just said that it's just pushing on to be unusable doing nails. Nobody would have censored that. If I said there's a disproportionate amount of special blood, the border. Cause the people who run the nail shop. But I won't get censored. The people who run the nail shop, don't run your podcast.

That's it. Okay. Now your nails might not get done. They're going to be like, she's blowing up. She's blowing up the industry that we're at. But, but that's true. And I think I say Jewish people have bought the black voice. That's what you meant by it is that they are, they're disproportionately represented in media. And so if something that you say is something that they, that you, they don't like, they won't allow you to have it said. That's what you meant. That's getting more specific. Okay. It's more specific, but my emotion about it as a human being, as a leader, oh,

As a leader, I operate at every medium from the most brash and brutal to medium and understandable to highly sophisticated. We have to operate in all those. My feeling and my emotion, because I am a human being, I'm not a robot. So if you take a woman,

can be scarred by men just off of one bad experience with a man. Perhaps it might be a six-year-old girl that has an experience she shouldn't have had with an uncle. And that woman ends up being a stripper or, you know, disliking men. So imagine if that woman had that experience with 10 men.

So I can tell you, I've had 10 bad experiences with Jewish execs. And these are the people, the Jewish people I come in contact with. So if that woman had that experience with 10 men, she might say this term, men are all the same. She could sing it. She could say it. And imagine if she was just like,

beautiful like if she had like the face of irena shake or the body of candace swanepoel or the body of kim or something like that right it's if this person like was just kind of stood back or like say it's like holly berry or something like if they if they just stepped back and were a bit timid to give a number out or and someone says she hates men she hates men

What do you mean, all men? And would men do a whole series of 80 outline things calling she's anti-menetic?

Is she anti-monetic because of her experiences? And she allowed to have the emotion that because of her experience, now she hates, now she dislikes. You know, I'm going to say dislike because it's considered to be hate speech. Like, yes, I have a, I'm at a place where I'm like, I'm not going to talk specifically to Jewish people.

uh, businessmen because the Jewish businessmen are the ones who have done the things to me to hurt me and to hurt my friends. Right. So now I'm talking to Jewish businessmen's, uh, families. That's why I said the Jewish people, because I'm calling the Jewish people to talk to the Jewish businessmen family and say, are you doing fair deals or with your version of the boys club? Right. This isn't the Catholic church.

Protestant voice code. This is people that have been through pain and rose to success. The Jewish business community. I need their families, their dads, grandparents, wives, children to ask them, are you doing fair deals by God? Because yes, we do have Zionist Jews and we have godly, you know, take Friday and Saturday off Jews, right? Jewish people. Um,

And as Jay, in my position, I'm one of the darker Jews, Black people's most loved by Jewish people, Blacks, period, like for 20 years. So that's the reason why God put me in this position. You know, when, with the, as I have to word it the right way, but with 2024, you know, coming two years from now, whoever goes into

Whoever ends up into office by 2024 has to bring the country together. There's no more of this divide. So that means...

The funny thing about the Jewish media is I have their attention. They love me. They always love me. I have their attention. Now you're referring to media executives. So like... Executives, yeah. Yeah. So like TMZ is owned by Harvey. And that's one Hollywood publication that would like be writing about you all the time. Yeah, exactly. So... Harvey Levin. Yeah. Harvey, my name is Jay. It's not Kanye West. I take it like you calling Caitlin Bruce. Yeah.

Like my name is Ye. So those little things also refer to me as billionaire. Christian Billionaire Ye. Matter of fact, I may legally change my name to Christian Billionaire Ye. So you'll be forced to call me Christian Billionaire Ye. So because I got my name is Ye, I got a lot of room to extend it on the other side. I'm doing a prefix. So that is.

I must say I had a train of thought that I was getting to. You were saying the Jewish media, and I just interjected to say you're talking about specific people in media. But what was I saying about the Jewish media?

I don't want to like kind of ramble to find my point again. Yeah. It's a really good point. Cause even like when I take it, I'm like a bit sleepy. Yeah. It's just a really, that's what made through the, why I'm going to do podcasts sleepy for now. When I do a bill more two days from now, I'm going to go in sleepy. Right. Because I have so much energy as like,

alien level African King that if you put me in a normal podcast situation with an antagonistic media person, then they can get me to look as animated as they would want me to be on stage or on a basketball court. But in that setting, I have to speak. So now I figured out the code to be as calm as they would like me to be in these situations. So

But man, I'll get back to it. Otherwise, we'll have like another conversation where we could find what we were saying. Yeah. But I just want to, the way I want to go back to though, there's two things I want to say. So first off, when I was coming on the plane, my podcast was on shuffle and Jay-Z's song came on. It was...

Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. He says, oh, I know what it is. He says, I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars. They criticized me for it, yet they all yell holla. If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli. Truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five mil, and I ain't been rhyming like common sense. When your sense got that much in common, and you've been hustling since, the only perception for perception go with what makes sense.

Since I know what I'm up against, we as rappers must decide what's most important. And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them. So I got rich and gave back. To me, that's the win-win.

And I was just so stunned. I ran it back like 10 times because I forgot how much I love that song. And I was like, he's literally telling you that he is dumbing himself down. And he has decided that the better thing to do is to keep the people that follow him stupid and be able to help them by giving money. Like I can't help the poor. I dumbed down my audience to double my dollars. Like he has to make a decision to be smart, right? To be rapping, like telling him quality or to make money and be able to give back to people. So he knows that.

And this made me think of you because you said on that podcast that got taken down that information is the number one resource, right? And he knows that he has to choose between giving the people information or having success. And I was stunned by the verse. And what record label was he on that helped influence that decision?

It was a Jewish record label. Okay. What was it? I don't know. Universal, Def Jam. Yeah, Def Jam. A Jewish and French because you got Vivendi that owns Universal. But French, that's super colonizers. The French own 80% of African banks. Nobody would be mad if you had tweeted that, by the way.

Oh, the French? But that's because the French don't hyper-focus on controlling the Black voice like the Jewish media does. But this makes me think, Drake is the best rapper ever by the numbers. Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever by the inspiration. Yeah, he inspired me.

There you go. He was smart. You know what I mean? Like he, he was talking business, but you either got it or you didn't. He was telling you the, like the code that now I'm being stupid. Like I'm giving you guys stupid stuff because this is how it works. Like in order for me to stay successful, I have to keep giving you stupid stuff. I just think y'all say you need to let him go get some pussy. Seriously. What? What?

Go to the DR or something like, you know what I mean? What's that about though? What's that about? Are you good friends with him still? Because you know what's missing from this whole? I don't know if you're going to run that line or not. I'm not. This is going up on parlor. Are you going to run it? That's the bigger question. I just think like, man, it's like Jay-Z is like the head, head, head.

You know, we're under the fire and we're the firefighters.

But in order to be a good firefighter, you got to be willing to run into that fire. And that's what makes me the number one firefighter. That's what makes me Michael, because I'll run into that fire. Everyone knows that I'll run into that fire for the people in the burning building. Who's the people in the burning building? All of society. Because Blacks and rappers are the thought leaders. Like everyone, people, you know, if you go to a college,

People have different majors, but everyone majors in Drake at the college.

It's very few people, even if they don't particularly seek to listen to them, everyone in the college knows the song. So that becomes then the information of part of people's curriculum and DNA of the way we think. And what I've been saying is like the idea of free thought, the White Lives Matter t-shirt, that's an idea. Let's talk about idea separate to that t-shirt. You have the idea of

For civilization to move forward, what do we do in marches? We march. And what's marching? Walking, right? In order to walk, what do you need? Both legs in order to walk. How do both legs work? One foot in front of the other, one foot in front of the other. So watch this. An idea is your left leg and actualizing, I like it better than execute, like universal positive forward movement language.

you actualize what your right leg, you think the idea with your left leg, you actualize, you're moving forward, right? But if you go into a place where there's thought police, they put the innovators into a place of crawling and our civilization is no longer moving forward. And you can believe it or you cannot, and I can like classify as a black person, this and that, but I'm challenging all the systems one by one, right? That we will be happier if,

And not only I don't love the word utopia seems over the top, not only find a happier way to live, we will actually survive because we can't survive by being oppressed, by having our thoughts oppressed and being afraid to say what we feel because, hey, you know what? We could feel something for a bit, you know, and yeah.

Then if you get to do it, you can get over it. Like sometimes like a kid can have a chocolate binge and they get the stomachache and only happens one time where they can go and touch the stove and they get burnt and it only happens one time. Right now, we're not getting the opportunity to touch the stove. If I hadn't went so far, said the word DEFCON, right, DEFCON, then I couldn't have, we couldn't have had an openly open conversation about,

what Jewish execs are specifically doing. All of the conversation would have been said to be hate speech. Like, how can I hate Jews that I consider myself to be Jew? But then people say, well, you hate Black people because you wore White Lives Matter. And now, like, I talked to Noriega this morning. He was like, okay, I realize this. I realize that I really don't feel prodigy die from choking on an egg.

jumping in right here because at that time, as you can see, both of us were really sleepy. It was very late at night and we were having that discussion and I hadn't even fully comprehended what he said there when he said that people don't believe that Prodigy choked on an egg. And I had no idea what he was referring to. And I just wanted to let you guys know that there was a rapper named Prodigy who began speaking out about

about the Illuminati. He basically said, I have this platform and I want to use my platform for good to wake up the masses to what's really going on in society. And so I am going to dig up this old clip of Prodigy right before he mysteriously choked on an egg and he decided to speak with Alex Jones. Take a listen to what Prodigy had to say.

Yeah, they're doing all this ritualistic murder and rituals on little, you know, they molesting little kids, doing sex, satanic sex rituals. Like, this stuff is really going on in this world. Like, on 9-11, you know what I mean, what they did was they killed 20 birds with one stone.

You know what I'm saying? That's how I like to say it. You know what I mean? Because they changed all kinds of laws. They changed people's mentality, the way they look at the world. They pulled off one of the biggest ritualistic murders that ever happened live for the whole world to see.

So there you have it. That is Prodigy. And like I said, he then mysteriously choked on an egg. Maybe the first person in human history to have choked on an egg in some capacity after speaking out about the Illuminati. Let's jump back into my conversation with Ye. I really...

believe in a lot of the things that you're talking about, but we rather just accept the pain. Pain is like first thing that drugs that we get, you know, as black people is like sugar and then pain and pain because of, and I know because I have a tendency to,

you know, to be masochistic. It's part of my superpower, right? Like the ability to Deadpool the pain to overcome, like, but I, like, I'm telling you like a good comment, a bad comment, someone calling you something can change how you feel. People have sent me so many comments about

you know, me standing up about the information with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd that I actually felt happier today. Like today has been my happiest day, right? Because obviously there's, you know, you showed in your documentary that

They hired thousands of people to go out in the street and there's a currency for outrage. But there's also really intelligent Black people that are tired of our narrative being forced down, you know, forced to us. I don't want to say down, it's not like Paul's. So, but our narrative being forced to us, for us to take, you know, what happened before with the media is...

you know, they would go and get the best and the brightest to represent Black people. And there's been a shift. There's been a shift. They don't want there to be another Beyoncé. They don't want there to be a Candace. They don't want there to be a Ye. They don't want there to be a Dr. King, a Farrakhan, a Martin Luther King, Michael Jordan, Nat King Cole. They don't want that. They want to say, "Hey, we're gonna take

this person that was a drug addict and we're going to replace him. We're going to replace Martin Luther King with a drug addict. We're going to replace my dad, who was a Black Panther, with the Disney version of Black Panthers. And the fact that Virgil passed... No, I don't mean Virgil. I mean, George passed. I don't mean George. I mean, Chad passed. Now you can't talk about

Black Panther, or you can't point out that Black Panther was actually being used to erase my father's legacy and what he fought for as the actual Black Panthers. And also if you go to this one, I think it's called Maleficent, this other Disney film. Mm-hmm.

If you look up Moors, there's a black guy with wings on next to Maleficent. But that's not who the Moors were to us. And it's so funny. The first thing I said when I wore the White Lives Matter t-shirt and wearing Paris, I said, you can't un-Google this. But they took the interview down. So they're in the process of slowly un-Googling me.

They're in the process. Mark my words. They're in the process of un-Googling me. And it's a balance. It's like an argument that's happening inside of the Jewish media right now. Like, do we give them the platform? Do we not give them the platform? Because not giving you the platform...

is almost proving your point, right? So if you have a Jewish executive who makes a decision that you're not allowed to be on the platform, then you go, okay, well, you put my point, right? Whereas if you hadn't- That's why we're in your house right now, because they wouldn't let us talk on Daily Wire specifically for me having the claim, the possibility that the darker Jew known as Blacks

that came from Africa could possibly be Israelites that could possibly be Jew. And I was, and I was just to be super open. I was confused by it. Cause I'm like, what are we saying that there's no such thing as black Israelis? They live in Israel. So I don't know. Maybe Kanye descendants from it. Maybe I just have them from it. Who knows? Right. So I don't know why making that claim. Like if, if you got up here right now and,

And you were like, I'm a white male. Why would you need to be deplatformed for that? Like, why would that be such a thing that you couldn't say that? Like, oh, my God, I'm not going to say you're a white male. We cannot have you on the show. And maybe people could be transgender. Why couldn't people be? Right. That's what I mean. Like, what's the big deal? Let's pretend that you're completely making up. Why can't you just say that? Like, why is that information, like you thinking that so crazy that it can't be said? Yeah. If people could be transgender, why couldn't they be trans race?

You can define who you are. Rachel Donaldson was trans-racist. She got an OnlyFans. She's not deplatformed. She didn't get her Twitter account taken or Instagram taken. So that's kind of the question that I had. I also want to ask you, going back to your analogy, why run into the burning building when the people inside of it are saying, we don't want help? Because they're so convinced that it's not a burning building.

Right. So you either have the Jay-Z perspective where it's like, what I'm going to do is I'm going to send some firefighters to try to throw some water on it. It's your perspective. It's like, I'm going to run the building, rescue as many people as I can. And I might kill myself in the process. Right. Why not do what Jay-Z is doing? No, get to the top, know how it works and just say, well, I'll do a little charity here in Zimbabwe is what it is.

Yeah, because just enough isn't enough. Like God calls us and I believe God's going to call them too, because they're dealing with it even in their positions. You know, they don't, like I said, they don't want another, the media doesn't want another Beyonce. They want to go and take-

Don't forget the Trayvon Martin BLM thing. That was them marching in the streets in Brooklyn. So I want to correct me. Brooklyn, Beyonce and Jay-Z, they launched that movement. I can't say that. I can't say that they always, you know, make the right decisions. And so I think they lost one of their best decision makers being me. Like I kind of, you know, went into their, you know, Calabasas for a little bit.

and blew it up. You got this person getting people out of jail, making billions of dollars, cultural influence, all this stuff. And God has called me to move around. Interesting. So I'm at the BLM premiere and the death of the

The BLM, the scam aspect of BLM. Now, I want to say this. This may get picked up or not, that I felt when I saw Kamala was running for office and they showed this picture of her as a child, I saw my mother in that picture. I wanted to vote for her. I almost forgot I was running. I was like, oh, right. And so when I see Kamala,

The George Floyd video, the way they capture it, the way it sounds, it hits me right in a place. It's like you completely forget that the guy is on drugs. You completely forget all these different things. And I just, it just hits, it hits me as a black person. I put that label, the label I've been given that I've grown up with. And I understand why it hurts. And I understand why people,

It worked for a moment. But now we're in a place where we have to dispel the trauma and move forward. It feels like all Black people own are trauma, the word n***a, and braids. You know what I'm saying? Can't nobody get braids. You better not get braids. You know what I'm saying? It's appropriation. It's ours. But where's our land appropriation?

Where's our, you know, company appropriation? Where's our brand appropriation? You know, we're the walking billboards for Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga. It was interesting, just the shift, the tectonic plate shift of me closing the Balenciaga, opening the Balenciaga show, and everyone was

from the culture, Black people, white people, they were all into the idea that me, because I was ruffling some feathers. It was right on the line of, is it too far? And then I opened up the Balenciaga show and people were just like, what? And it felt good. It felt awesome. And then I put up a picture and I said, war. But little did they know that I meant war.

And then the next day I do a fashion show that's purposely sabotaged. Like people, this is like rumors of Catholic priests, you know, levels, you know, sabotage. They went and took the, I don't want to word it like that. Cause I could be taking Mr. Stress. They, they sabotage the season nine show. They went and took the,

the microphones off of the children's choir to make sure that we started late. That was just one of... And I was there when you were like, you were upset about that. I remember they're saying like, the mics are off the kids, the mics are off the kids, supposed to be starting. That was one of a thousand things. Even the lady that was, you know, there is now she's leaving the school. She'll no longer be principal, you know, moving forward. So...

And that was just an example. It was like, here's the shift. And it started there. And it gave the opportunity for the speech. And it said, hey, I'm the leader. You will not un-Google this. And they caught the picture of the T-shirt and it said, White Lives Matter on it. And...

All hell broke loose. But when hell breaks loose, we have an opportunity for heaven to come through and for God to use us. And that's what's happening. I mean, that thing was like two weeks ago, two weeks ago.

Let that happen. It's crazy. It seems like a lifetime ago. Literally, I'm 80 years old as I sit in this chair. You aging in Obama years. I'm aging in Obama years. I just have white hair. I was just like, I mean, I got to a moment where I was just like, wow, how did a t-shirt do this? You know what I'm saying? And you know what? They're angry is because...

In my perspective, it was like we wore the T-shirt and then they did their usual media attacks. And usually they're up against people that they can break. Right. So they needed me to post the statement that's like,

You know, I'm getting my distance from Ye and I've realized that he's made some mistakes so that he's off his meds and he's crazy. And I hope he gets the help he needs. Right. I didn't do that. So now they're going after my family. Like they edited this photo, this video of me and you. I didn't tell you this on the red carpet at my premiere to make it look like we were in a relationship.

And this starts going viral. Meanwhile, you know, my husband's 10 feet away. He doesn't do cameras. Right. So they're doing, I mean, from every single angle, just trying to see if they can break you and I have a type of relationship, which is fascinating because the same thing happened last time. And that was like the whole Blacksit thing, except you took the bait that time. And then never, never. That's my never again. Like I say, Kamala's are never again, because you are what?

Black people want it Kamala to be. You're exactly. So thank you very much, media, for prepping the culture to be able to see what we really need. And I mean, it's just such a godsend. It's just hitting me right now that we started, that we absorbed this platform and

you know, what we're going to be able to do with it. It's incredible. The question that I wanted to ask from her phone, do you believe that you have bipolar? Who told you you were bipolar? And when were you told that in 2015? I was told that by a Jewish doctor and the information was put out by a Jewish Hollywood trainer to the Jewish media. And actually the day when they put me in the hospital,

I had started reading the Bible really heavy and rewriting Bible verses. And when the Jewish trainer saw, and you're like looking like, well, that sounds pretty bipolar. But the Jewish trainer saw that, put me in the hospital and then said, and then put it in the press. The press being TMZ broken. Yeah. I don't remember. I was in the hospital, right? Why were you in the hospital?

- Exhaustion? - Yeah, I was gonna say, you don't sleep much. I mean, we don't sleep much. - I actually do sleep a lot. - Do you? - It's my favorite thing. I see that's Trump who said, "I'm sure you don't sleep much." But I do. I sleep like six hours, seven hours. I mean, anytime I disagree with the norm, people say, "Well, are you getting sleep?" They're so concerned about my health.

Because as soon as you put out that you have a mental illness, it becomes this thing where they can just stigmatize everything you do. Everything they can discredit it. But what happens when, you know, everyone's wearing Yeezys or what happens when, you know, we change a color palette or shape of something, shape of a shoe, shape of something in apparel, what happens when we change the look of homes? What happens when we simplify the way we think and the way we communicate, you know, then

you know, who needs sleep. And you take something like Moses. I always tell people Moses was on speed and he stuttered or Ketadon or whatever they called it, whatever that would have been the biblical version of that. But God had something for him to do. And this is a God's dream, right? This is something for me to do. And God is on, uh,

God is on our side. It's God's time. This is why we're on this platform. This is why God provided. How is it that, you know, God told me, go to Nashville right now.

you know, Kid Rock, he was leaving out of town. If Kid Rock had been in town, I would have went by his house to hang out and go to the studio. But because he was out of town, when you landed, we were here and they were telling you as you were landing that I was not allowed on the Daily Wire. And that's God guiding our path. That's how the video game of life works. Disney got the line for Snow White. If you look at how thin the black line

are on the Disney characters in the original movie that came from a French artist he was working with. Similar to me, you know, working on apparel and getting a European designer to give that cut on something. Or even like the biggest company in the world is an American company, but the lead designer was from London. It was Johnny Ox. So it's that...

Mix of those that we got to look at all the talent on the on the planet and bring them into the American companies. American companies are the super the super forces. That's PayPal, McDonald's, Amazon, Google, Apple. It's like and now, you know, what Yeezy is slated to become because Yeezy's got one of the two most.

compelling founders living. The other one is Elon. So that's us. It's like, "Yalon to save the world." "Yalon" or "Yalon" or however you want to word it. I saw that actually up today. It's for us to come together. What's so good is like, Elon actually, he legally can't become president.

So that means that at a certain point, like I have to be present, you know, and to empower. It's like, it's crazy. Like the current, the Biden menstruation, the Biden menstruation. So the current Biden menstruation won't even talk to Elon. Won't even speak to Elon. Like, wait, what? Because he's what?

Not staying in line. And that's the thing is like, I feel like they say that to everybody and I get the...

Being called crazy when you're not crazy will drive you crazy. Right. I was being driven crazy by the fact that every time they picked up an article, they just kept like, this is what I called you. I'm like, they just keep calling him crazy. And with Elon, it's like different attacks, but it's consistently saying stuff that isn't true. And then you have everybody else, like the masses repeating stuff that isn't true. You know what I mean? And I just don't understand why I get frustrated. It's like, how much more success can you have before they stop?

Right. Well, that shows you they won't because it, my success, it's the success that will happen is this is the success having our own platform. It's not up to Twitter. I mean, now it's still on Apple currently, you know, it's still on Apple and it's still under the satellites. So there's a bit more freedom. We're just at a different level of the video game. You know what I mean? It's just like,

It's still some mountains to climb. What I'm really big on, I want to talk about is in our sleepy cast, and I'm going to go get some sleep, is, well, I touched on it before. Maybe we can cut this to work together. But to bring people together, the left, we always talk about the left, the left and right. Well, we're one body. We have a left and right.

So we're really big. Like right now, the left is fighting against the right. And that's like if I was going like this, my left hand and my right hand, we have to fight together for our species, for humanity, because the right has some great things and the left have some great things also. Like the left is really good at media, you know, so and the left is not good.

they're not happy with the Biden menstruation either. And we have an opportunity to really win the hearts of the left also.

I'm really big on, like when I made "Stronger," Nicole Schwarzenegger from "Pussycat Dolls" was dancing to it up and down Record Plant Studio. But then when I played it for Ice Pick, who was one of the executives at Rough Riders that's, rest in peace, passed away, when he heard it, he put his nose up like he said, "The whole thing sound like that?"

And he wasn't into it. So I had this challenge of making Stronger, which is now Diamond, it's my biggest song of all time. It's a Diamond record, be able to play on Hot 97. Hot 97, Rhyme Ready. I knew it was going to play on V96, which is a white pop station. But how does it play on Hot 97, which was like ran by Jay-Z and Rhyme?

Not ran by him, but he was the most common voice on it at that time. And that's the thing to be able to, there is a way to appeal to both sides and find that place, that place of happiness. There are things, there's things where like Trump and Biden had a lot of places where they aligned when I looked at their policies. So I'm really interested in

Really bringing happiness back to the world, bringing joy back to the world. But we have to call people in.

on what they're doing for there to be happiness in the world. We can't just say, oh, it's okay for people to super complicate deals and to collude on deals and to not look at us as human beings, as artists and athletes and actors, that we have to be willing to stand up for that to be able to change something. And we need to come together as a society to be

to be the first civilization that actually became civil, you know, to stop war. Like people, it's a possibility of having a worldless world.

where the human species is not at war with each other, but we are more sophisticated because of social media, because of the information that we have now. And we gotta have people like us and God using us to push that to the next side. We gotta get control of our country. We have to get control of our family. And right now there has been an agenda in the media and in politics

to remove God, remove the family, and to remove our country from us. So it's time for us to take control again. And God's on our side, so that's what's going to happen. I've got faith in that, in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. There it is.

That was like presidential towards the end. We could put some music. What kind of music you want to put with that? I'm proud to be an American. Yeah. It needs something like that. Because, you know, I think about my boy, Mike Howe. This is the guys that told me to go speak on Fox on the gap when they were like making it look really bad on the floor. And that's what started it. And now then it's like, boom, MSNBC and so on and so on and so on and so on. Just keep on speaking up.

And this, I feel like there's stuff that we did tonight. Do you want to do any other things that you want to put it just because we can do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll move everything. I mean, that was, I had a list of things that I wanted to talk to you about. I mean, we got more to go. We should do one of these a week. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. We should just start doing this once a week. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm.

I'm, um, yeah, cause I want to talk to you like another pot, another guy cast about like the war on men. You know, I want to talk to you about drinking. Yeah. Think about drink champs. Yeah. But you want to hear something like, did you know the word alcohol? Yeah.

It's what? It's where the spirit accolades. Yes. Absolutely. You knew that? Yes. I believe that. It is. It literally, yeah, kills your spirit and allows demons to come in. You know what I mean? And take over. I 100% believe that. I can say this since this is our podcast. I definitely was drinking when I put up the DEFCON tree. You know who's...

I want to say alcohol I had inside me, but I don't know. Hennessy. Wow. It's interesting. Hennessy. It turns us gray. And literally the demons just come in. Yeah. No, I honestly, I was fascinated when I learned that the history of that. And it's literally because when you drink, you become a different person. It's almost literally like a spirit has taken over you. That's why they call them spirits. Did you know that? That's why they call them spirits. Yes, absolutely. That's crazy. How come we didn't put that information out earlier that you were drinking?

I don't know. Nobody asked. Well, no, because I didn't want to discredit. Oh, here we go. Like, oh, no. Every time he tweets, he's drunk. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Because it keeps on like taking away the fact of what I was like saying. Yeah.

or what I was about to do. And also sometimes the truth comes through because it's another way to discredit, right? This thing right here, we've got some stuff in it, the temperament of it, the lighting, the feel, the two people that are here doing it, because we've been waiting for this one. This is the one. And this is the one that needs to be on parlor as the first God cast, as the sleepy cast,

The Dreamcast. Dreamcast. Dreamcast. Dreamcast. I used to like that. It was like Sega had a Dreamcast. Yeah, I know. I used to play on it. Sonic. What? Yeah. I love Sonic too. Sonic is just a bomb game. That and Donkey Kong on Nintendo. You know what? Donkey Kong on Nintendo was like another level.

The old school. We need to... I like to talk and play video games because a lot of times the podcast is very like, you can't do something at the same time. That was too complicated. Xbox ruined everything. Just too many buttons. That's what I'm saying. We need to go and play...

I mean, you made like the newer, like the Nintendo Switch has a Sonic that I just, I used to meditate in this during COVID, during the, during the scam pandemic, due to the pandemic. I used to meditate to Sega. What are you saying? Yeah. I used to meditate in video games and it's funny. I would watch like WALL-E over and over and over and over. And I had a cousin that just, just reads a lot.

And they were like... I got a husband that reads a lot. And he was just so mad at me that I just kept on watching the same movies over and over. But if I like a movie, like I'm watching Norseman right now. It's about these Viking slaves that overcome things. And it's...

I don't know what God's plan is for me. A Norseman, they fight to the death. But I'm willing to give my life for what God calls me to do. But I think it would be cool to have a podcast where we're playing video games on a really big screen and then we're just talking. I also feel like my kids like to watch people play video games. That's the weirdest thing ever to me. As a whole culture, your brother's like that. He is.

You do the same thing. I'm like, this is weirdo. Watch it. So we're playing video games. That's actually going to pull it. Imagine being able to even attract the entire video game community as voters.

Right. I tracked them on the parlor too, but it's true. Yeah. They liked me by the way, the gamers love Candice Allen. So I stood up for them with the BS. The original me too was Gamergate, but that's a way deeper, lower like thing that people can't even talk about the gamers and get what I just said with that. But that was the original me too. And that's what brought me to my awakening. So I liked the gamer community, but, um, the only thing is like what game would be black?

That's a serious question. Life. The game of life. No, no, no, no, no. It has to be like a good video game. You know what I'm saying? Like it's gotta be one of the old ones. It has to be like Donkey Kong or something. Yeah. Like I don't want to play freaking Grand Theft Auto.

I see. That's what you want to play. I'm not big, big Grand Theft. I mean, life is Grand Theft Auto. I'm not, I'm not, we're in Grand Theft Auto. Right. That's the closest to the simulation of our life. That and the Bible itself. If you think it was like simulation theory in the Bible itself, it's like, okay, if you pick your character, you're going to make the character in your image. Yeah. That's how the Bible sucks. That's it. That's exactly what it is. So, um,

I'm just envisioning where this God cast or this dream, sleepy cast or this dream cast can go. You know, I'm like ideating and envisioning the next frontier of where this is. But I'm just overwhelmed by what, you know, God has done for me today. I'm just I'm happier than I've ever been.

All right, guys. So there you have it. So many thoughts probably racing through your head. It's kind of a weird thing. The outside was so loud, the media, the headlines, the screaming. And yet this moment, I am grateful to God for it because it was kind of the eye of the storm. And-

I think a lot of the stuff that he said was extremely valid and I look forward to hearing what you have to say. And yeah, I'm grateful. I believe that the only solution is more speech, not less. And I hope that you carry that attitude with you because it's the only way we're ever gonna get closer to truth. See you guys tomorrow.