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Can Syria avoid another slide into autocracy?

2024/12/13
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Hadil Al-Shalchi
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Leila Fadl
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Omar al-Shoghary
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Razan Rashidi
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Stephen Heidemann
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Omar al-Shoghary: 我为阿萨德政权的垮台感到无比的喜悦,这是我生命中最美好的时刻。我经历过阿萨德政权的残酷迫害,在Sednaya监狱中遭受了非人的折磨。如今,叙利亚终于摆脱了这个暴政,我感到无比的解脱和希望。未来充满了挑战,但我们必须抓住这个机会,建设一个更加自由、民主和公平的叙利亚。 Razan Rashidi: 叙利亚的解放让我感到无比的喜悦。在过去十年多的时间里,我目睹了叙利亚人民遭受的苦难,无数人流离失所,家园被毁。如今,我们终于可以庆祝胜利的到来。但这仅仅是一个开始,我们必须警惕,防止叙利亚再次滑向独裁。我们需要一个真正代表人民意愿的政府,一个能够保障所有公民权利和自由的政府。 Leila Fadl: HTS领导层目前正试图展现其和平过渡权力的意愿,承诺保护所有叙利亚人的权利,无论其宗教信仰或民族背景如何。然而,实际情况如何还有待观察。叙利亚的社会结构复杂,各派系之间存在深刻的矛盾,和平过渡并非易事。 Hadil Al-Shalchi: 虽然阿萨德政权垮台,但叙利亚的暴力并未完全消失。复仇情绪依然强烈,网络上流传着许多报复袭击和法外处决的视频。部分少数民族对未来感到担忧,担心HTS会对他们不利,尽管HTS已经向他们保证安全。 Samer Kassab: 作为德鲁兹社群的一员,我对未来感到担忧。虽然HTS保证了我们的安全,但我担心新的统治者实际上是伊斯兰极端主义者,他们可能会迫害我们的社群。我们希望在新的叙利亚拥有安全和尊严的生活,而不是再次陷入压迫和恐惧之中。 Stephen Heidemann: 阿拉伯之春的经验表明,推翻独裁者并不意味着自动走向民主。许多国家在推翻独裁者后,反而陷入更混乱或更压迫的局面。叙利亚能否避免这种命运,取决于许多因素,包括HTS的实际行动、各派系之间的合作以及国际社会的支持。HTS作为伊斯兰运动的身份,以及其过往的统治方式,对叙利亚的未来构成重大挑战。叙利亚人民需要警惕,防止再次滑向独裁。

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Why did the Arab Spring revolutions often result in more autocratic regimes?

Many governments responded to mass protests with repression, leading to civil war or suppression of protests. Economic grievances were not effectively addressed, and military interventions overthrew democratically elected leaders in some cases.

What are the current fears among minority groups in Syria after the fall of Assad's regime?

Minority groups, like the Druze community, fear potential Islamist extremism and mistreatment under the new rulers, despite assurances of safety from HTS.

How has HTS governed in Idlib province before taking control of Syria?

HTS has governed Idlib province for the past four to five years with a heavy-handed approach, which raises concerns about their commitment to inclusivity in a future Syria.

What are the promising signs for Syria's transition after Assad's fall?

HTS has reached out to minorities, reassured women, and offered assurances to external governments about preventing groups like ISIS from influencing the transition. There is also a degree of unity among opposition factions.

What challenges does Syria face in avoiding a return to autocracy?

Syria faces challenges from HTS's Islamist identity, its past governance style in Idlib, and the potential for internal conflicts among opposition factions. The country also needs to address economic grievances effectively.

What role do external forces play in Syria's future?

While internal unity among opposition factions is currently strong, external forces, including international recognition of HTS and regional influences, could impact Syria's transition and stability.

How does the experience of other Arab Spring countries inform Syria's potential path?

Other Arab Spring countries faced backsliding into autocracy due to repression, economic failures, and military interventions. Syria must avoid these pitfalls by ensuring inclusivity and addressing economic grievances.

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The fall of Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria is met with widespread celebration, but concerns arise about the future under the rule of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a group designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. Reports from Damascus highlight the immediate changes and lingering anxieties among the population.
  • Overthrow of Bashar al-Assad's regime
  • Celebrations by Syrians
  • HTS takes control
  • Concerns about HTS's designation as a terrorist organization
  • Lingering violence and revenge attacks
  • Fears among minority groups

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The brutal regime of Bashar al Assad fell over the weekend with dizzying speed. Syrians within the country and around the world burst into celebration. Now, the rebel group Hay'at Tahrir al Sham, or HTS has to govern. They are designated a terrorist organization by the US.And some worry that HTS could slide into its own kind of autocratic regime.That fear is not unfounded. Across the Middle East and North Africa, many revolutions have overthrown autocrats, only for those countries to descend back into chaos or a more oppressive rule.The Syrian revolution began amid a wave of uprisings in the region that led to new, undemocratic regimes. Can Syria avoid a similar fate today? For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org).Email us at [email protected]).Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)