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How Netanyahu survived another tumultuous year

2024/12/19
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内塔尼亚胡:我专注于对抗哈马斯,我的腐败指控是荒谬的,我正领导以色列度过历史性的时刻。我不会辞职,我的目标是让哈马斯消失。针对我的指控和国际逮捕令是出于政治动机,它们并不能削弱我在国内的地位。我正在领导以色列人民对抗敌人,取得了重大的军事胜利,这比处理国内政治更加重要。 Daniel Estrin:内塔尼亚胡通过将责任归咎于哈马斯,并利用在加沙的军事行动来转移人们对他的批评,成功地维持了他的权力。尽管他的行动招致国际谴责,但在以色列国内,国际刑事法院的逮捕令并没有削弱他的地位。战争中取得的军事成功,以及将腐败审判政治化,都帮助他维持了支持率,尽管他的支持率仍然不高。许多以色列人仍然抗议他,并指责他在释放人质问题上更多地关注自身政治生存。 旁白:内塔尼亚胡在2023年初面临多重危机:哈马斯袭击、司法改革抗议以及长期的腐败指控。然而,通过将焦点放在哈马斯身上,并利用军事行动的成功来转移公众注意力,他成功地度过了危机,并在年底时依然掌握权力。尽管他的支持率不高,并且面临腐败审判和国际逮捕令,但他仍然保持了政治上的强势地位,这与之前以色列总理在类似情况下辞职形成了鲜明对比。

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Why did calls for Netanyahu's resignation increase after the October 7th attack?

The October 7th attack, where Hamas killed 1,200 Israelis and took 250 hostages, was seen as a massive security failure and the deadliest day in Israel's history. This led to widespread public outrage and demands for accountability.

How did Netanyahu respond to calls for his resignation in October?

Netanyahu dismissed calls for his resignation, stating that he intended to 'resign Hamas to the dustbin of history' instead.

What were the key factors contributing to Netanyahu's declining support in 2023?

Netanyahu's support declined due to the October 7th attack, his controversial judicial overhaul plan, a governing coalition with far-right ultra-nationalists, and ongoing corruption charges.

How has Netanyahu managed to maintain his position despite corruption charges and a grinding war?

Netanyahu has deflected blame onto Hamas, focused on military successes, and used his corruption trial to reinforce his image as a leader dealing with 'what really matters' in the Middle East.

What impact has the war in Gaza had on Netanyahu's popularity?

The war has somewhat improved Netanyahu's popularity, bringing him back to the level of support he had before the October 7th attack, which was around 30-40%.

Why hasn't Netanyahu's corruption trial affected his political standing?

Netanyahu has turned his corruption trial into a tool to shape his image, portraying the charges as frivolous while emphasizing his role in the ongoing military and political crises in the Middle East.

How does Netanyahu's approach to public protests differ from past Israeli leaders?

Unlike Golda Meir, who resigned after the Yom Kippur War due to public pressure, Netanyahu has dug in and refused to be swayed by protests, showing a lack of accountability or sense of responsibility.

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At the start of this year, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was facing a crisis. Just a few months before, Hamas had breached Israel's border with Gaza, killing some 1,200 people in Israel on October 7th and taking more than 250 hostages back into Gaza. It was a massive security failure, the deadliest day for Israelis in the country's history.

Calls for Netanyahu's resignation began within weeks. Here's a press conference from October 30th of last year. It seems that the level of support that you have amongst the Israeli public has dropped considerably. So the question is, how can you continue to lead this country effectively during a very difficult time? And have you at all considered stepping down? The only thing that I intend to have resign is Hamas.

We're going to resign them to the dustbin of history. By January, he was staring down headlines like Netanyahu's collapsing support, can Netanyahu survive Israel's war with Hamas, and fan and foe agree Netanyahu's reign won't last. And it wasn't just October 7th that was stoking calls for his ouster. Ingrid Netanyahu had been brewing since the summer of 2023.

when hundreds of thousands of Israelis marched in protest of his plan to overhaul the country's judicial system. This was after he was forced into a governing coalition with far-right ultra-nationalists. His opponents in the Israeli parliament chanted weak as he was sworn in. And you can add to all that the corruption charges he has faced since 2019, which finally landed him in court this month. He

He's called the charges absurd and told NPR this in 2022. All politics is cruel. Israeli politics is crueler than most. I've been subjected, especially my family, to endless vilification because I keep winning elections.

Consider this. Benjamin Netanyahu is preparing to ring in the new year, the 18th time he'll do it as the prime minister of Israel. Despite a corruption trial, an international arrest warrant and a grinding war, Netanyahu is still on top of Israeli politics. From NPR, I'm Juana Summers. Support comes from our 2024 lead sponsor of Consider This Anthropic.

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It's Consider This from NPR. Benjamin Netanyahu's year is ending in a courtroom. He is finally taking the stand to defend himself from those corruption charges. You might think that would be detrimental to his political career, but instead, Netanyahu looks stronger than he has since the war began. NPR's Daniel Estrin has been watching that trial, and he has been watching Netanyahu for years. He joins us now to talk about the Israeli prime minister's year. Daniel, welcome. Hi, Iwana. Hi, Daniel.

So Daniel, if you could just take us back to the beginning of the war. How much pressure was Netanyahu facing to step down? He was facing a ton of pressure. I remember the night of October 7th, the attack. I met a father in a hospital. He was looking for his missing daughter. Turned out later we learned she had been killed. And that night he was saying Netanyahu's government was to blame. He said Netanyahu's government had weakened Israel.

Because in the months before, there were these massive street protests against Netanyahu's plan to weaken the judiciary. And there were reservist soldiers who were even saying they refused to serve. And then after October 7th, a poll found that about 76% of Israelis wanted Netanyahu to resign. And at that time, I remember speaking to analysts in the first months of the war who said there was no way Netanyahu's government could hold on

But here we are. Here we are indeed. So Daniel, tell us, how has Netanyahu survived?

He's deflected blame and he's put all the focus on Hamas and he has directed all the focus away from him. Now, the war that he is waging in Gaza has, of course, led to massive destruction, the killing of more than 45,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza health officials. It has drawn worldwide condemnation. The International Criminal Court has an arrest warrant out for Netanyahu for alleged war crimes in Gaza.

But in Israel, first of all, the ICC is seen as anti-Israeli by many. So those arrest warrants are not weakening him at home. And on the battlefield, Netanyahu has a lot of successes he is presenting to the Israeli public. Hamas has been severely degraded. Hezbollah in Lebanon has been beaten back. The leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah have been killed. Israel's moves have in part led to the fall of the Syrian regime,

Today, Israel bombed the Houthis in Yemen. Israel has also bombed its archenemy Iran in this war. So the narrative Netanyahu is presenting to Israel is he's led a historic comeback since the weekdays of October 7th and the aftermath. And all of those military moves that you've just described, how are those playing out for Netanyahu's popularity in Israel?

They've helped him, but only somewhat. He has regained all the support that he lost at the beginning of the war, but it's just brought him back to where he had been, which was not very popular. He only has about 30 or 40 percent support among the Israeli public today.

Throughout the year, many Israelis have protested him in the streets. They have blamed him for blocking a deal to free the Israeli hostages in Gaza. They've blamed him for, they say, worrying more about his own political survival than freeing the hostages because his far-right political partners in government have threatened to quit if he made a deal with Hamas. Despite all these protests in the streets, Netanyahu has simply dug in and he is not swayed by them.

We have been speaking with an Israeli-American pollster, Dalia Scheinlen, who has made this fascinating comparison to the last time Israel faced a surprising, devastating attack. It was the Yom Kippur War 50 years ago. And after the war, the prime minister, Golda Meir, resigned.

Mass numbers of people went out, demonstrated, and she felt a sense of responsibility and resigned. Netanyahu does not share that sense of responsibility or accountability. And Daniel, Netanyahu is also standing trial on corruption charges this month. Doesn't that also harm his popularity? It actually doesn't. His corruption trial is just another thing that Netanyahu is using to help shape his image right now. He was called to the stand this past week, and he's kind of made a show out of it. The trial was even delayed a day because he...

He went to go visit Israeli troops in Syria. So he's sending a message from the courtroom that these charges, the corruption charges he's facing, are frivolous. I, Netanyahu, am meanwhile dealing with what really matters. I'm at the forefront of history in the Middle East. NPR's Daniel Estrin in Tel Aviv. Daniel, thanks. You're welcome.

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