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Is Trump's immigration bet working?

2025/6/11
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Caroline Leavitt: 作为白宫新闻秘书，我认为特朗普总统正在兑现他的竞选承诺，即采取强硬的移民政策。我们认为，执行移民法是我们的职责，即使这意味着要面对一些抗议和骚乱。民调显示，大多数人支持我们加强边境安全和驱逐非法移民的政策。我们不会被左翼的抗议活动所吓倒，将继续坚定地执行我们的移民政策，以保护美国的安全和利益。我们所做的一切都是为了确保我们的社区安全，并遵守法律。 Gavin Newsom: 作为加州州长，我认为特朗普政府在洛杉矶的移民政策是不人道的，并且适得其反。派遣军队到我们的城市，只会加剧紧张局势，并导致更多的恐惧和不信任。我们不希望看到我们的街道被军事化。更令人担忧的是，政府在移民执法过程中，逮捕了包括孕妇和儿童在内的无辜民众，导致家庭分离，社区受到创伤。我认为这种做法是不可接受的，我们将尽一切努力来保护我们社区的居民，无论他们的移民身份如何。特朗普政府的政策正在破坏我们的社区，而不是保护它们。 Simon Hankinson: 作为保守派智库的分析员，我认为特朗普政府在洛杉矶的移民政策是合理的，并且是必要的。地方政府不应该抵制联邦政府执行移民法，这是他们的责任。当地方政府不愿意维持和平和保护生命时，联邦政府有权采取行动。我们不能允许抗议活动演变成骚乱和暴力，必须采取强硬措施来维护法律和秩序。我认为，只有通过加强移民执法，才能真正解决移民问题，并确保我们的国家安全。我们必须回到执行我们的移民法，而不是忽视它。

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The White House claims Trump's immigration actions are fulfilling his campaign promises. Public opinion polls show some support for Trump's deportation policies, with 54% approving in one recent poll.
  • White House defends Trump's immigration actions as fulfilling campaign promises
  • 54% approval of Trump's deportation policies in a CBS poll

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The White House's message on what's happening in Los Angeles is simple: this is what President Trump was elected to do.It is true that polls have found people trust the Republican Party more to handle immigration. A CBS poll taken last week found that 54% approve of Trump's deportation policies. Trump is making a big bet on how far Americans want him to go. He mobilized National Guard and active-duty troops that the mayor and governor say they don't need. The administration says its immigration efforts are focused on criminals. But California Governor Gavin Newsom highlighted other people swept up in workplace raids."A U.S. citizen, nine months pregnant, was arrested; a 4-year-old girl, taken; families separated; friends, quite literally, disappearing." Trump is doubling down in Los Angeles. We hear from a conservative immigration analyst who thinks it will work.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org). Email us at [email protected]).Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)