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Measles is spreading. Are you safe?

2025/3/18
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Dr. Alex Yanovich: 我是一名儿科医生,在我的职业生涯早期,我治疗过一个七个月大的婴儿,他感染了麻疹,因为太小而无法接种疫苗。他从他社区的一个未接种疫苗的孩子那里感染了病毒。感染相对温和,婴儿康复并长大成为一个聪明、健康的孩子。他是一个优等生,一个有魅力、令人愉快的孩子。但后来他在中学开始出现令人不安的症状。他开始在上课之间迷路,好像找不到下一个要去哪个班。最终,他被诊断出患有一种叫做亚急性硬化性全脑炎(SSPE)的退行性神经系统疾病。它通常在麻疹感染后七到十年发展。问题是没有治疗方法。随着时间的推移,他越来越虚弱。研究表明,这种几乎总是致命的疾病比以前认为的更常见。 Elsa Chang: 作为一名记者,我关注到西德克萨斯州和新墨西哥州的麻疹疫情,以及美国其他地区零星出现的病例。这些病例大多与国际旅行有关,而不是与德克萨斯州的疫情有关。麻疹的传播速度很快,并且具有很强的空气传播能力,因此疫苗接种至关重要。 Maria Godoy: 我是NPR的记者,我采访了麻疹疫情的相关专家。麻疹是已知最具传染性的疾病之一,其传染性高于埃博拉病毒、脊髓灰质炎病毒和水痘病毒。它可以通过空气传播,并且感染期长达8天。麻疹疫苗非常安全有效,两剂疫苗的有效率为97%。然而,疫苗接种率的下降可能导致麻疹疫情的再次爆发。此外,一些人认为维生素A可以预防麻疹,这是错误的。维生素A可以帮助治疗麻疹并发症,但不能预防麻疹。关于疫苗的安全性问题,疫苗比麻疹病毒安全得多。麻疹病毒可能导致严重的后果,包括死亡、失明、耳聋和脑肿胀,甚至可能导致免疫系统记忆丧失(免疫性遗忘),从而增加患其他疾病的风险。 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: 虽然认可疫苗对个人的保护作用以及对群体免疫的贡献,但我认为疫苗接种是一个个人选择,并没有明确呼吁民众接种疫苗,反而强调了营养的重要性。

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Dr. Alex Yanovich, a pediatrician, is still haunted by the memory of a teenage boy whom she treated at the start of her career. He had contracted measles when he was just seven months old, too young to have been vaccinated. He got the virus from a child in his neighborhood who was unvaccinated. The infection was relatively mild, and the infant recovered and grew up to be a bright, healthy kid. He was an honors student.

And just a charming, delightful kid. But then he started developing troubling symptoms in middle school. He started getting lost between classes. Lost like he couldn't find what class to go to next. Eventually, he was diagnosed with a degenerative neurological condition called subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, or SSPE.

It generally develops seven to ten years after a measles infection. The problem is that there is no treatment for it. And he basically became more and more incapacitated over time. And studies suggest that this condition, which is almost always fatal, is more common than once thought.

Since the measles outbreak in remote parts of West Texas and New Mexico began in January, more than 300 cases have been reported. And the communities where measles continues to spread, they're largely unvaccinated.

Consider this. In most of the U.S., vaccination rates are still high enough to stop a major outbreak. But vaccination rates are falling. And if they continue to fall, we could see long-term consequences of measles in the future. Which is why experts continue to say that the best way to protect yourselves and your children from measles... Vaccinate them. Vaccinate your children. Get people vaccinated. An update on measles in the U.S.,

From NPR, I'm Elsa Chang.

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It's Consider This from NPR. As measles continues to spread in West Texas and New Mexico, isolated cases have been reported in about a dozen other states. Now, those isolated cases are largely linked to international travel, not to the Texas outbreak.

And I spoke with NPR's Maria Godoy about all things measles, starting with the difference between the Texas outbreak and those isolated cases. OK, so the U.S. declared measles eliminated in 2000, and that just means there's not ongoing transmission for greater than 12 months in an area. But the U.S. has reported measles cases every year. It's usually unvaccinated people, you know, who are bringing measles back from traveling abroad. We see these all the time. We've seen that this year in Alaska and Maryland, where I live.

An outbreak is different. It's when the virus is spreading locally. And right now, the virus is spreading in remote areas of West Texas and New Mexico. The concern is that you might have someone who is sick and then they travel to another area where vaccination rates are low and they could potentially seed another outbreak there. OK. And at that point, how do you stop that from happening?

So measles is the most contagious infectious disease known to man. It's more contagious than Ebola, than polio, than chickenpox. It's so contagious that in a world where no one's vaccinated, one person sick with measles could go on to infect 18 others on average. Right.

And it's airborne, which means these infectious particles can linger in the air for up to two hours. So if you have a sick person walk into a room, cough, leave, and then an hour later someone comes in, they could potentially get infected and pass it on to others. The other thing is you're infectious from about four days before you develop that telltale red measles rash until four days after. So that's eight days, really, where you could be spreading it to others later.

Now, the good news is the measles vaccine is very safe and highly effective. Two doses of the vaccine is 97% effective, which, yeah, and you need high vaccination rates in a community so that there's no one vulnerable to measles. And so the virus has really nowhere to go and spread.

I had no idea measles lingers in the air for two hours. Wow. Okay. How is the federal government right now responding to this outbreak? It depends on which part of the federal government you're talking about. So the CDC has issued a measles alert and, you know, asked doctors to be on the lookout for people with fevers and the red rashes. It's sent vaccines to Texas. And it says unequivocally vaccination is the best defense against measles.

But when it comes to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the Health and Human Services Secretary, he wrote an editorial piece for Fox, and he's been on Fox in an interview. He has said vaccines protect individuals from measles, and, you know, they contribute to community immunity. But he's also called vaccination a personal choice, and he didn't outright urge people to get vaccinated. The other thing he said was that good nutrition is a best defense against chronic and infectious diseases, right?

Which, again, the public health line has long been that when it comes to measles, vaccination is absolutely the best defense. Yeah. The other thing he's done that has puzzled, you know, public health experts I've talked to is he's focused on treatments like vitamin A rather than stressing vaccination. Wait, vitamin A? I mean, can vitamin A actually treat measles?

Okay, so this is not completely without a kernel of truth. Vitamin A does have a role in the treatment of measles in that there are studies dating back decades, usually from low and middle income countries, that show that when you give vitamin A to kids who are malnourished and deficient in vitamin A, it can, you know, reduce the risk of dying from measles.

And it can also help prevent complications like blindness from measles. So the American Academy of Pediatrics does recommend giving two doses of vitamin A to kids sick with measles to help prevent those complications.

But that is not the same thing as saying that vitamin A prevents or protects you against measles. Exactly. Right. It can't do that. But the concern here is that, you know, parents might hear that and think that. And in fact, there is misinformation going around online suggesting falsely that vitamin A can protect against measles. And, you know, there are concerns that parents might be giving kids vitamin A dosage long term to protect them against measles, which you can't do, but it can actually be harmful

because vitamin A builds up in your body and over time it can be toxic. Mm-hmm.

OK, well, another claim that we're hearing is that the vaccine is more dangerous than the measles virus. What are doctors saying about that? That's absolutely false. The vaccine is very safe and highly effective. Again, two doses, 97 percent effective. Meanwhile, measles is still a dangerous virus. It can kill. You know, before we had vaccines, four to five hundred kids used to die in the U.S. each year from measles. And it can cause blindness, deafness, brain swelling.

The virus can also have long-term effects. So after measles infection, to some extent, your immune system's memory can be erased, which means that pathogens your body used to know how to defeat, it no longer remembers how to defeat them. So you're not immune anymore. And this effect can last two to three years. I know. It's called immune amnesia.

And, you know, it can even cause neurological problems years after infection. Wow. Well, given these potentially very, very serious consequences for measles, how worried should people be right now in light of this current outbreak?

I want to stress that there's no reason to panic right now. Vaccination rates are still high enough nationwide in most places to stop a major outbreak from happening. But if vaccination rates continue to fall, as they have been over the last several years, you know, in five to 10 years, experts I spoke with say we might go back to the days when we had measles outbreaks with thousands of cases and, you know, many deaths. Well, how can people better protect themselves right now?

Get vaccinated if you're not already. Make sure you've had two shots of the measles vaccine. And, you know, get your kids vaccinated, too. Parents can talk to their pediatricians about getting younger kids vaccinated early if they're traveling abroad or are in an outbreak area. In fact, the CDC says anybody traveling abroad with an infant six months or older should, you know, get them vaccinated early. It's usually more about 12 months. That's the schedule. If you're not sure about your own vaccination status and you can't check your immunization records, there's no harm in getting another dose. Right.

OK, let's just say you do the right thing. You get vaccinated. Like I was vaccinated as a kid and I think I even got the booster. What are the chances that you could get the measles even though you're vaccinated?

They're really, really low. So no vaccine is 100% effective, but measles is pretty darn high, 97% effective. And you know what? The more people in a community are vaccinated, the more effective the vaccine is for everyone. Absolutely. That is NPR's Maria Godoy. Thank you so much, Maria. My pleasure. This episode was produced by Mallory Yu and Connor Donovan. It was edited by Jeanette Woods, Nadia Lansi, Jane Greenhalgh, and Courtney Dorney. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan.

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