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cover of episode "The Return" tells an ancient story that still resonates today.

"The Return" tells an ancient story that still resonates today.

2024/12/6
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主持人Mary Louise Kelly介绍了电影《回归》的背景,并引出了奥德修斯和佩内洛普这对夫妇在20年分离后的重逢。影片改编自荷马史诗《奥德赛》,讲述了奥德修斯历经艰辛回到故乡伊萨卡,与妻子佩内洛普重逢的故事。 演员Ralph Fiennes饰演奥德修斯,他描述了奥德修斯在十年战争和十年漂泊中的身心创伤,以及他与妻子分离的痛苦。他强调奥德修斯并非仅仅是一个背叛妻子的人,而是一个在战争和漂泊中迷失了自我的人。 演员Juliette Binoche饰演佩内洛普,她讲述了佩内洛普在奥德修斯不在的岁月里,独自承担着王后的责任,承受着巨大的压力和焦虑,以及她对丈夫的爱与恨交织的复杂情感。她认为佩内洛普并非仅仅是一个等待丈夫的圣洁妻子,而是一个拥有复杂情感和需求的现代女性。 两位演员还探讨了影片中奥德修斯和佩内洛普重逢的场景,以及他们两人在28年后再度合作的感受。他们认为,影片中两人重逢的场景充满了张力与悬念,留给观众很大的想象空间。而他们两人在28年后的合作,也充满了默契与新的可能性。 两位演员对角色的解读深入浅出,展现了他们对角色的理解和对影片的思考。他们不仅从角色的表面行为出发,更深入到角色的内心世界,展现了角色的复杂性和多面性。 此外,两位演员还分享了他们在拍摄过程中的感受和体会,以及他们对影片主题的理解。他们认为,影片不仅讲述了一个爱情故事,更探讨了战争、漂泊、以及人性的复杂性等深刻的主题。 总而言之,两位演员对角色和影片的解读,为观众提供了更深入的理解和思考,也为影片增添了更多的魅力。

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Why does The Return focus on the emotional toll of Odysseus' long absence?

The director, Alberto Pasolini, emphasizes the cost on Odysseus' soul from years of fighting, killing, and being away from home, including relationships with other women.

How does Penelope's character in The Return differ from traditional portrayals?

Penelope is depicted as a complex character with feelings, needs, and struggles, not just a saintly waiting wife.

What significant event occurs when Odysseus and Penelope finally meet?

Penelope challenges the suitors with a bow, a task only Odysseus could traditionally accomplish, symbolizing her hope and determination.

Why did Ralph Fiennes initially struggle to see Juliette Binoche as Penelope?

Fiennes couldn't initially envision Binoche as Penelope, but the director's suggestion illuminated the perfect casting.

How long had it been since Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche last worked together?

It had been 28 years since their last collaboration on The English Patient in 1996.

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The episode begins by introducing Homer's Odyssey and its themes of homecoming and reunion, setting the stage for a discussion about the new film adaptation, The Return. The film focuses on Odysseus's arduous journey and its impact on his soul, highlighting the years of war, adventure, and moral ambiguity he endured.
  • The Odyssey, Homer's epic poem, is the basis for the film The Return.
  • Odysseus's 20-year absence from Ithaca is explored, focusing on the toll it took on his soul.
  • The film omits the mythological elements of the Odyssey, concentrating on the emotional cost of Odysseus's actions.

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An epic poem and an epic reunion come to the big screen. The Return looks for new meaning in Homer's ancient story of Odysseus' return to Ithaca — and to his wife Penelope. We talk to co-stars Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org).Email us at [email protected]).Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)