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Trump: Man Wrongfully Deported To El Salvador Won't Return To U.S.

2025/4/15
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Ashley Lopez: 我关注政治，报道了美国与萨尔瓦多之间不断发展的合作关系。特朗普总统将移民问题作为其核心议题，寻求国际盟友合作以加强边境安全和遣返政策。他特别关注打击帮派活动，并承诺遣返帮派成员。这一政策导致了与萨尔瓦多政府的合作，萨尔瓦多同意接收被美国遣返的帮派成员。 Franco Ordoñez: 我负责报道白宫新闻，并关注特朗普政府如何利用《敌侨法》遣返被指控为帮派成员的个人。然而，这一政策面临着挑战，因为需要找到一个愿意接收这些被遣返人员的国家。萨尔瓦多总统布凯勒与特朗普政府建立了合作关系，同意接收这些被遣返人员，这在一定程度上是由于萨尔瓦多在处理国内帮派问题方面的声誉。 Ximena Bustillo: 我负责报道移民政策，并关注Kilmar Abrego-Garcia的案例。他是一位萨尔瓦多公民，在美国居住，但由于行政错误被错误遣返。尽管如此，美国政府拒绝将他遣返回美国，理由是下级法院无权干预，这是一个外交政策问题，并且萨尔瓦多政府也拒绝遣返他。最高法院的裁决要求政府‘协助’遣返，但政府对这一裁决的解释与法院的意图存在差异。 Ximena Bustillo: Kilmar Abrego-Garcia的案例突显了美国移民系统的复杂性。他虽然被认定可驱逐，但由于担心在萨尔瓦多面临迫害，他获得了‘拒绝遣返’的救济。然而，由于行政错误，他被错误遣返。这一案例引发了关于美国政府是否应纠正其错误以及法院在外交政策中的作用的讨论。政府声称遣返Abrego Garcia在后勤上存在困难，但此前已有被遣返者被送回，这表明在后勤上是可行的。政府对法院命令的回应含糊其辞，试图规避责任。Abrego Garcia的案件对其他被错误遣返者的案件以及美萨关系具有重大影响。政府快速处理遣返案件可能导致更多错误，Abrego Garcia案的处理方式可能预示着未来案件的处理方式。

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This chapter explores the burgeoning relationship between El Salvador and the United States, focusing on an agreement to house deported individuals in El Salvador. It examines the origins of this agreement, President Bukele's role, and the challenges of finding suitable destinations for deported migrants.
  • Agreement between U.S. and El Salvador to house deported individuals.
  • President Bukele's role in the agreement.
  • Challenges of finding destinations for deported migrants.
  • Use of the Alien Enemies Act for deportations.

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In an Oval Office meeting Monday with El Salvador's president, President Trump said Kilmar Abrego Garcia would not come back to the U.S., despite a Supreme Court decision ordering the Trump administration to "facilitate" his return. We look at how El Salvador became the destination for some of those deported from the U.S., and what's next in Abrego Garcia's case. This episode: political correspondent Ashley Lopez, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, and immigration policy reporter Ximena Bustillo.*The podcast is produced by Bria Suggs & Kelli Wessinger and edited by Casey Morell. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics).*Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)