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Trump vs. Newsom: Breaking Down the Politics of the L.A. Protests

2025/6/10
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Guy Marzorati: 我报道了加州对特朗普政府的诉讼，该诉讼的核心是特朗普未经加州州长纽森同意就调动了国民警卫队，以及特朗普政府未能证明动用国民警卫队的必要性。洛杉矶的抗议活动规模相对较小，与其他大型城市活动相比，规模并不大。纽森在与特朗普的关系中采取了摇摆不定的策略，有时采取和解态度，有时则采取对抗态度。这种策略可能对他在民主党内的形象产生影响，也可能对他未来的政治生涯产生影响。特朗普和纽森之间的对抗可能对双方都有政治优势，可以转移公众对其他问题的注意力。通过与特朗普对抗，纽森可以转移人们对他削减对无证居民医疗补助的注意力，并把自己塑造成无证居民的捍卫者。 Domenico Montanaro: 民调显示，虽然大部分民众支持特朗普的驱逐政策，但支持率并非压倒性。人们对驱逐政策的执行方式存在分歧，例如，人们普遍认为应该驱逐重罪犯，但对其他移民的驱逐方式存在争议。特朗普政府的策略可能是通过升级局势来为进一步的行动辩护，甚至可能导致城市内部出现对立。 Sarah McCammon: 特朗普可能会因为行动过于强硬而面临政治风险，但民主党也可能因为显得与公众脱节而面临风险。民主党需要努力赢得公众舆论的支持，避免被描绘成混乱和激进的代表。大多数加州选民认为纽森关注的是提升自己的总统候选人形象，而不是认真执政。纽森更擅长与共和党对抗，而不是寻求和解。对纽森来说，与共和党作斗争更符合他作为政治家的本性。

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As protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles stretch into their fifth day, President Trump is doubling down on his decision to send national guard troops and U.S. marines to the city. That is setting up a clash between Trump and California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who's often seen as a 2028 Democratic presidential hopeful. This episode: political correspondent Sarah McCammon, senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro, and KQED political correspondent Guy Marzorati. This podcast was produced by Bria Suggs and edited by Lexie Schapitl. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)