E948 - Love Island USA w/ GirlBossTown, Jim Jefferies, Summer House, Not So Golden Bachelor, and The Valley
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What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition. I am your host Nick and boy do we have a lot to get into today. We have a great episode for you. The very hilarious Jim Jeffries joins us later this episode along with his wife Tazi. Can't wait for you to hear from them. I do also have a

I know a story in a way. Also, we have Girlboss Town joining us momentarily, also known as Robin Del Monte, your internet big sister. I don't know. She's like trendsetter. Trendcaller.

She returns the Vile Files. We love it when Robin's on. She always has a lot of great insight on all things pop culture. And she will be joining us to break down some Love Island, which is heating up. Quick thoughts. Are we enjoying it so far relative to last season? I'm enjoying it. Not as much as I was season six, but like, you know, it's a hard act to follow. I struggle with some of the characters. I think we forget.

just how many episodes there are and how we felt about season six when it first started. We didn't think about Leah and Rob the same way we did at the end. - Who was Janae with originally? - I'm just saying, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's so much-- - Connor. - We struggled for a while. - Connor. - Yeah. - Yeah, wow, that's crazy. - I think if you're going in wanting to feel exactly about these characters,

you know, in the beginning as you did at the end. Like, that's apples and oranges. I don't know. I think it's promising. I think it's promising. I'm a Love Island virgin. This is my first season. And I'm enjoying, like, I thought I would. It's fun and silly. Yeah. I thought I would be really annoyed at the everyday aspect of it. But now I'm finding myself being like, oh, it's out. Yeah.

And then like turning it on. It's really, I'm enjoying, I'm locked in. Well, not only is Nick the host of The Vow Files, he's also the host of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Reunion. Yay! Well, obviously, why would you do a reunion for season one? We're going to go back in time. You need to explain things to people. Anyways, very honored, very excited to be hosting this reunion with these incredible women. They make the job easy. They are very giving.

And excited for you guys to watch it. It's a wild episode. The episode is in the bank, so to speak. I can't wait for you guys to see it.

A lot to unpack. I know a lot of people have some feelings about Demi not being listed as the group amongst the group of women that attended the reunion. I will say that in a way, she is very much a part of the reunion and in a way makes an appearance at the reunion. She's definitely not forgotten. And in a way there. But she's also definitely not on the couch. No, she's not. She's not physically on that couch. Hologram. Mm hmm.

Yes, a hologram. Yes, yes. An AI version of Demi. They had AI come in and have Demi say, I'm the star of this show. But if you have questions about Demi's participation in season two, that itch will be scratched very much so.

July 1st, right? July 1st. July 1st. So we will be kicking off your 4th of July weekend with some major fireworks. I can promise you that. I'm so excited. It's really good. You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll be at the edge of your seat. Do you know what else airs in July is Bachelor in Paradise? And apparently you guys have some...

Bachelor Nation tea to spill. Well, many of you guys have known that ABC slash Hulu has not picked up The Bachelor, their flagship show. The Warner Brothers, The Bachelor Nation, the entity that is Bachelor Nation that's owned by Warner Brothers has obviously been in the news in all the wrong reasons. A lot of disarray going on there. They don't know who's going to be running the show in Hulu.

slash ABC is like, they're doing great things. They got Mormon wives crushing it. They're producing other shows. They like, they don't need the bachelor. Like they used to need the bachelor. This is my understanding of what's going on. And so now ABC is kind of like, figure it out. Let us know. Could this be the end of an era? No, I don't. I think they have every intention of bringing it back. I mean, the next bachelor season will be the 30th bachelor season. That's a big, that's a big deal. And I think they have every hope and intention of bringing it back. But until Warner Brothers figures it out,

about who's running it, who's show running it, what the concept is.

they need to rebrand. They need to refresh. Make changes. Personally, I think if we're talking Bachelor, there's a huge opportunity here to like really modernize the show. Like let's stop with tropes of like the pressure that all these cast members have to have this like sad story when some of them like just aren't that sad. Yeah. I think they need to make it like modern day dating. If I were running that show, I would cast 60 women. I would. I would announce the women. I would announce the women. It's like I wish I would have had more women.

women. No, no, no. He's like 20, 29 was enough for me. It's not about that. It's not about that. But I do think they need to have the lead.

Be somehow in some way a part of the quote unquote casting process. They need to give more shits about their lead, liking more people on the show. I think they need to modernize the show in a way that's like gives 2025. Right. And when I say cast 60, some they're already casting that many people that go through that final stage of the process. I think they need to announce these people.

much sooner than when it airs. I'll put them out there. Let them get messy online and let them make TikToks. Let The Bachelor somehow interact via text messages. I think they should allow The Bachelor to bring a phone, not necessarily their phone, but like a phone. Like Love Island. In a way, right? Where the show has access to all the text messages that are sent. So like the women could like text The Bachelor. Like send a little nude from the mansion bathroom. Maybe send a titillating photo or send a text when they're on a date.

Maybe they can actually eat their dinner. Maybe, like, you know how Bravo style, where they go out and, like, engage with society? Why can't The Bachelor do something like that? You know what I'm saying? Instead of the, like, concerts with no one else there. Dancing to a performance. Like, stop making the limo exits or reveals, like, the main focus at the beginning of the show. They can still do a funny thing, but, like, allow the conversations to start happening. Like, get these people invested in these characters far earlier

earlier than they do. They could modernize the show in the coolest way that would make it really popular. I don't know if Warner Brothers is... Right? They're so precious about the success they've had in their flagship show. I don't want to change anything. They're so precious they have fallen behind because they haven't had any competition for 20 plus years. And now that they have competition, they have fallen so far behind. They have put all their eggs into the Golden franchise because it was

such a major hit the first season with gary jerry gary anyways joan season was obviously everyone i think loved joan but now we have the new rock star we have the new golden bachelor his name is mel owens he was like a um former nfl player football player he is 66 years old and he went and did this

podcast that like had nothing to do with Golden Bachelor. He was talking football. Like I don't even think anyone. So he did this random Michigan football obscure podcast. This wasn't like sanctioned. Clearly, clearly wasn't sanctioned by like anything ABC or Hulu or Warner Brothers. He just was a guy who's had a life outside of the basketball

the bachelor, right? He's a football guy. And he, he went on this like Michigan football podcast to talk football, but now he's since been announced and cast as the golden bachelor. They clearly asked him about,

So they said, Then he says,

He says,

which filmed later this year, but said he knows they're going to be beautiful. As for other qualities he's looking for, the dad of two added, they got to be fit because I stay in shape. And I told producers, try to stay away from the artificial hips and the wigs, that kind of stuff. Oh, no. This is your golden bachelor? Oh, no. What a nightmare. This Warner Brothers cannot get out of their own way. Well, interestingly enough, we talked to someone recently

on the ABC side of the thing. And they were like, when they were like excited about the casting and they were saying how they talked to Mel and they thought, you know, I don't know this guy, you know, he looks great for his age. He could definitely date younger if he wanted to. So they had concerns like, you know, listen, The Bachelor is, it's a very specific show. The Bachelor is in a way kind of also an extension of the host. It's not just about you. You're there to tell other people's stories. You know, it's, there's other shows for that.

per se, right? Like, there's nothing wrong with an age gap. There's nothing wrong with if you want to date younger at 66, do that. But like, this isn't the show for that. You know what I'm saying? And so they had concerns about his ability to be interested. And I was told that he specifically said to those people that he wanted...

to date women he wasn't interested in dating younger he wanted to date women his age so did he lie to those people to get this job and now he's going on this other like Michigan State football podcast where he thinks it's like just the bros just the guys well it took early

Or like think about being selected and being excited to go and then finding this information out and being like, great. So I'm cut night one. I'm 65. Again, Mel, good for you. If you want to date younger, go and date younger. That's your life. You should do that. But like if you want to accept this role, you know, this role is about helping other people tell their stories, making these women feel comfortable, not shaming them for having a hip replacement surgery. Yeah.

Or extensions. Like, what? Or maybe experiencing some hair loss later in life and investing in a great wig and having them feel sexy about it. Like, this is your golden bachelor? I do fear that when... Before, obviously, I worked here and knew anything about The Bachelor, I found out about The Golden Bachelor and my friend and I decided to watch it because we were like, well, this is going to be insane because...

What's going to happen is you're casting an old man and there's only, you know, much love to all the old men out there, but there is only so much you can expect from

of an old man and certain opinions on things. So we were like, this is going to be insane. And then it ended up being very sweet. And then Gary ended up being Gary. But it's just kind of like, this is kind of the core issue with the Golden Bachelor, right? Is like, sometimes old men have antiquated views on women. At least Gary. You know, and it's like, what can you do? Well, at least Gary, he was great on camera. I've heard Mel's stiff. Mm-hmm.

So not only is he antiquated, he's not. He's an old football guy. He's not charming. And you expect him to be like, oh, yes, I love. He's a bra. I want to see your medical records. I love beautiful aging women. Is that your original hips? It's a mess. You can't have him talking this way about their most precious entity. It's the only thing they have left. And it's so wholesome. Like, that's what I love about it. Exactly. What? I'm not watching. Yeah. Shh.

All right. Well, up next, Robin Del Monte, also known as Girl Boss Town, joins us to talk some Love Island. And then we'll get into Paige. We got some Summer House Shake Up. I want to also recast The Valley since we're talking about recasting Bravo shows. We have a new Beverly Hills Housewives. A lot to get into. And later on, Jim Jeffries returns to The Vile Files to talk some reality TV in his new show he is hosting on Fox.

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Robin, welcome back to the show. I'm so excited to be here. You guys were one of the first podcasts I've done. This is my third time. Third time's a charm. Third time's a charm.

Third time's the charm. So I'm very excited. I don't feel like I've been, I wasn't here for either of them. Right? Well, I mean, we had the iconic Peter moment where he came in for the interview so sweaty. Oh, you were there that day? Yes, I was there. Oh my God. Peter from Vanderpump. Peter. Yes, during the scandal. Oh.

During Scandival. And he was out there just ripping shots at 10 a.m. Yes. And then came in and just like let it go. And I was like, OK, here we are. And I'm a VPR girly. And now I see him at the Grove a lot. I don't feel like I'm saying anything. Sorry for putting you in that position. But it's so funny because everybody in the room was kind of like, OK, this is happening, but we can't say anything. And then he left and we were like, OK, somebody, I think a producer came over with wet wipes and was like wiping

wiping down the microphone. I was like, okay, let's, everyone okay? It was great entertainment. No hates to Peter. I mean, it was, he really let it all out. So I think that was my favorite, but going into this and speaking about Love Island, I'm a Love Island girly, so I'll be excited to see how this one comes out as well. Well, you're like known as the internet's big sister. You are, you are,

You made a name for yourself for the people who don't know, just making just wildly accurate predictions about all things pop culture. Was your most recent one confirmed, the LaBooBoos? LaBooBoos. I predicted LaBooBoos and Addison Rae in 2021 in the same week.

And then both of those kind of came true within the same week, which I think you can say is trend cycling. But you know what? I'll give my prediction ability. I mean, it's funny. I was actually talking to Natalie this weekend about Alison Rae. I'd be like, how did she do it? What? Back in the pandemic, you had this wave of TikTok stars. You know, it was like all these TikTok stars. They had just millions of followers. But like it ended up being kind of almost for most of them kind of worthless, you know, and now most of them have just disappeared.

disappeared, these massive creators. But Addison Rae is one of the few who have made a phenomenal music career out of it. Yeah, and I was an Addison fan from the start. And obviously, a lot of those TikTok creators who became big in 2020 became big half from...

tweens but half from hate you know what I mean I feel like everybody was like what is this dancing on the internet so the hate really boosted their stardom which I mean is smart but I was an OG Addison Gurley and she knew it so she's like taking me out to dinner and we have like been in contact this whole time the whole time I was like she's gonna be a star just when we'd walk into like Tower Bar which is like an

old Hollywood establishment, the energy would just shift. Like eyes would just shift. And I'd be like, this girl's a star. Like I know it. And so I'm so happy for her success. And I think her working with Lexi Smith, who's like kind of like her muse, her best friend, her dancer, really just like

helped create it, but it's insane. I also think Charli D'Amelio, not a lot of... Everybody's talking about the Addison Rae renaissance. I think Charli being on Broadway and doing what she's doing is so admirable, so perfect for her. She seems so happy. So yeah, the 2020 girlies who rose above Addison and Charli, I'm happy for them. But yeah, it's crazy. I feel like Addison's going to be... And it is massive. I said the same thing about my wife, about she's a star when I walk into her room. Yes, exactly. But you can tell what's... She is a star. That type of energy. Yeah, exactly. I'm like...

You're feeling it. You're feeling the pop star energy. People don't know yet, but she's doing big things that I'm excited for people to find out about. Well, she is. I do want to ask you, what do you make of Justin Bieber right now? It's giving a little Britney Spears dancing with knives. Okay. So another thing I don't know if you guys know, my Instagram started as like a Justin Bieber fan account. I don't think a lot of people know this. Like back, back, back.

back in the day. - And we are also just, you know, big fans. - Massive. - We were at a big Christmas party. - What was your name? Was it different? Like, did you have like a... - I won't say the name of what it was.

Because Bieber, heart. I'm like, I love Bieber 24-7. No, but I was like there from Common Denominator. I was there from Mall Tour. Like I was an OG Bieber girly. My first time in New York, I was 28 years old and my girlfriend and I at the time, we got

David Letterman tickets. We were true tourists because we stayed in Times Square. We got offered David Letterman tickets. We went there and I was like, who's the musical guest? They're like, well, yesterday it was Michael Buble. I was like, bum. And they're like, well, it's this guy named Justin Bieber. He was like 16 at the time. Came out. Ben Stiller was like the main host. And Bieber came out. I was like, this motherfucker can perform. And I was a fan since then. And then a couple of years ago, now that I went to a Christmas party.

that he was at and he was so lovely. Oh. Complimented my sweater. Yeah. I asked where I got it. Was so, just an absolute sweetheart. Hugged us goodbye. Was so kind. Just wonderful. I've met him and Haley and, uh,

the kindest, sweetest, nicest people. When it comes to what's currently going on with Justin, I think that there's two aspects to it. I think that he is a creative genius and like he literally was playing the drums at age two. Like his brain works differently than everybody else. I truly believe that. And I think when you are so talented, you see the world very differently. And then to go through all of that at a young age, you're going to have a lot of

on your brain mentally going through it. And I think that right now,

what he is going through is definitely a lot, but I'm not going to point fingers and be like, oh, I think it's this. I think it's this. I think it's this because I'm not in any place to do it. But I do think that in like five years, we will have the renaissance of free Britney where people are going to be like, wait, I feel bad. We shouldn't have been doing that. Like, you know what I mean? So he's been, I mean, he dropped drew house. Right. And now he has Skylar. Well, even like the scooter brawn of it all, like,

That man, in a sense, helped to like race him in so many ways. And then he fell apart with that. And then the Drew house of it all. And now he's with Skylark. And he's working closely with Eddie Benjamin, who is another like creative genius. He dated Maddie Ziegler. He's an artist. And I just feel like he's going through a lot of spiritual awakenings. So we're letting that happen. But I'll always love him. I'll always be a fan.

meanwhile his wife's a new billionaire yes everything's fine everything's fine everything's gonna be okay but i will say like when he posts on instagram i'm kind of like like okay like i think maybe we should like put the phone down right now you know what i mean but we all go through those moments you see me tomorrow like having like all my stories yeah we're like robin put the phone down i mean as a creative genius like i don't know there's certain things that like

It always reminded me like when I was my first time I was on The Bachelor. Mm hmm.

You know, we expect a different from a reality TV stars than are like a major like musician creative geniuses. Like we don't want our reality TV stars to be trendsetters. No, you know, like we don't we don't want them showing up taking fashion risk. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, I tried that. People are like, absolutely. When it comes to like, like Harry Styles, they're like, oh, no. Yeah. Pop off, King. Let's try that off. It's like a completely, you know, we have to let our stars take risks. Yes, exactly. I also think when you're crazy.

creativity turns into a career and there's pressure on it, it shifts things. So it's like everybody's expecting so much of him and he's just kind of wanting to go through this own journey. So we'll see. I will predict in five years there's going to be like a free Britney renaissance being like, oh my God, like I can't believe we were that hard on him, especially after everything he's gone through. So any other kind of pop culture, like things that you're really focusing on right now or things out there that people should start paying attention to? Okay, so I'm

A lot of people come to me as creative, predicting all these things. But I'm also just like a normal pop culture girly. Like I love Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. I love all the reality TV shows like Love Island that we're about to speak about. But I will say with Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, I've been like looking at it at a more granular level. And I think that

Taylor Frankie Paul. Did you hear what the producer, the director said about her? He has like Kardashian. Oh, Snooki. Yeah. Reality TV people come and go. But like, I think that like she is a star. She is 100%. She is going to be like a Snooki, like a Kim where it's like,

exudes beyond this reality TV level. I can tell you because she's both a star and a professional. I said this before they announced that I was hosting the reunion. Which is amazing. And everybody...

I'm not sure. Like, don't read the comments. Everybody was like, this is so right for you to host that reunion. Yeah, I think it's so smart because reunions sometimes are just like to blow smoke up people's asks and you'll ask the questions. I appreciate it. I'm very excited. It's been a dream of mine. But before we recorded the reunion and, you know, I've interviewed a lot of different people on the show or whatever. And, you know, reality TV stars, obviously, you know, it can be nerve wracking. You know, you're

It's like, you want to make a TV, but you don't want to be called out for your behavior. And Taylor came up to me and she's like, challenge us, push us. Like, you know, that was that no one's like, there's no reality TV star that I've ever interviewed other than Taylor. Frankie Paul has ever like said that to me because she understands like the assignment. She's not afraid. She can be authentic. She knows that she can be a little toxic and messy. She can be accountable for her decisions. And she's an absolute star. And like, she's one of the very few reality TV stars I ever met with that type of quality.

Yeah. No, I'm obsessed with her. And I love how on the show it's weird because it's like, like you said, she can be messy. She can be drama. But you like can't hate her, which I think is like. Because she owns it. Yeah, exactly. So many other stars will like be messy and kind of like own it and pretend that like we're the ones who are delusional as fans. And it's like, what? And Taylor's like, no, I mean, just like I'm just going to.

This is who I am. And this is what you asked of me. And I'm giving it to you. And just but she she. It's her full transparency. I feel like a lot of the times housewives come on and it's like they have a persona that they want to put out there and things that they don't want to get exposed. Where I'm like Taylor specifically, I feel like it's just like, well, here's my baggage. Here's my drama. Here's what's happening today. And like she's not sugarcoating anything or trying to hide anything, which makes it that much more endearing.

Because I also feel like a lot of housewives have husbands who have reputations and it's kind of like, don't you go on there and like, air out your laundry. Yeah. And I also think that like, there could be a college course or R speaking about reality TV and perception because it's like, at first people went on reality TV and they were authentically themselves like the Jersey Shore. It blew up.

up we loved them for being messy then there came the 2016 renaissance where influencer marketing came into the picture so it's like okay not only do I want to be myself and get a following but I also want to be perceived as somebody who can like get brand deals who can work who can turn mainstream so they were aware of their perception then it kind of went in the opposite way where they're like the messier more chaotic I am the

the better. So it's like once perception came into the picture with reality TV, it shifted things and it became very difficult to actually be yourself and be marketable at the same time. And she has that, which I think might be the problem with Love Island USA, but we'll go into that when we talk about

talk about it. I would say like I would say most of her like Taylor's definitely top of her game but to the credit to the rest of the women as well I think as a collective that group shares that sentiment. I think Taylor might be the best at it but I think a lot of the women have learned from her and to that point like they found a group of women who understand their job first is to be reality TV stars and

And that's why most internet personalities, TikTokers, they've tried to make a lot of internet stars, reality TV stars, and they have fallen flat. And these women are the exception to the rule. And their exception to the rule is because there's so much personality behind them and they're willing to show it was...

You go online, you can make a 15-second TikTok. You don't have to have that much personality. You just have to have the ability to re-record it until you get it right, so to speak. And then one last thing. So have you interviewed Brooke Snader? No. Okay, so when we were at that event that I saw you guys at, I interviewed her and her sisters, and they have a sister reality TV show coming out, to your point. So many people try to come out with these shows. The producers that I was working with after they left the room was like, I think there's something there.

And I 100% agree. And like, I didn't really necessarily watch Dancing with the Stars. I know that she was an influencer. I know that she was in that relationship. She's gorgeous. The sisters, when they walked in, had such...

OG Kardashian sister energy. Like they were bickering during the interview in a way that was like so real. And like, I'm one of four sisters too. And I was like, okay, I feel like everybody thinks this show isn't going to do something, but I weirdly got energy of like, if this is done right, I think there's something that makes sense. I mean, I want to put that on camera because it was literally like they were the way they were bickering during the interview was like,

are you wearing my shirt? Like, you know, these sister ads, but it was real. And I was like, okay, I think if they capture this right, I think we might be good. That's the point, right? Because so many reality TV stars right now will not do that. They'll show up to the event and be like, no, no, no, no.

Exactly. And then they'll do like some kind of like forced scene. It feels forced. And it's just like, that's what we're getting from the Valley right now. It's just like, what are we doing? Is this a scene? I don't fucking know. Like, so if Valley is a social experience, if they're really trying to do that, you know, then you're right. I literally was like, okay, I want to put that out there. I mean, I feel like people don't have like the highest of hopes for, but I literally, even the producers that I was with were like,

Okay, that was energy. Like, I don't know what that was, but that was energy. Do you watch The Valley? I do watch The Valley. I think I love the concept. I think they recast most of the people. What is your most controversial Valley opinion? I think most of them are losers. But isn't that what made Vanderpump Rules amazing? No, because what Vanderpump was a bunch of young people who like it was the Hollywood dream story. And we gave them grace because they were like now they're.

parents they're like 21 22 year old be loud in the fuck up and when i say loser i don't mean like for kristin's on that show i don't think she's a loser at all we love kristin doughty she is the best she because because we've watched kristin grow up on tv and we've watched her be vulnerable we've watched her account for her mistakes now she is about to give birth to her first baby her partner luke is a

a stand-up guy, a good guy. We've seen growth, right? Jax and Brittany, they're losers. And I say that because it's the same shit over and over. There's no growth. It's just the same darkness. Especially because it's recorded of no growth. It's like, we have watched you for 12 years. Every reunion, it became the joke of being like, well, I'm working on myself now. And Andy would be like, okay.

Again? Like, here we go. Like the Kardashians, like Kardashians will show you messy. They'll show you drama, but they are aspirational. They are not losers. You know what I'm saying? They show you the drama and the fun and the messiness, but you also want to be them. There's nothing about Brooks or Jax or Jesse Lally that is aspirational. It's just like a sad, sad,

It's just sad people who can't get out of their own way. I think especially with the men on Bravo. I mean, I think there's going to be a whole dissertation about this. I mean, Lexi not getting asked back to Summer House. I know people have different opinions on that. We love her. I feel like, by the way, in 2016 when I moved to LA before I moved back home, I feel like I used to see her out in the clubs and stuff like that. I specifically remember her and I remember being like, the girl's like,

Stunning. I liked her on Summer House. I love all the Summer House girlies. I'm close with Paige. But it's like her not being asked back. It's like, OK, I'm not a producer. I don't get this. But the men that just continue to get asked back on Bravo. I'm like, I don't want to start the like Andy Favors men rhetoric, but.

but it's kind of like, why are we putting all these men in Bravo in such a position of power? And then being like, Oh my God, I can't believe they did that to their wives. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we're putting them there by the way, guys, like we're literally putting them in this position. And I think, especially when it comes to the Valley, it's like, no, no, no. Like they're old and they're still doing this and we're eating it up. Question mark. Like, I agree. I think it's weird, but I love Kristen. She's like a Taylor Frankie ball. Like where it's like, I'm going to be messy. Um,

and like literally be messy but then it's somewhat weirdly lovable she has a because she has a good heart you know and you can and she always has yes and she always has i agree i would put lala back on the valley yeah she has an interesting backstory she's definitely not a loser yeah her like living in this what she calls like her pod with her mom and her brother like raising her two children is like she makes moves you know she shows growth she might make mistakes she might like fuck up but like she you know there's just i need someone who can

put somebody in their place on that show. And I feel like Lala's the only one that can do that. And they're having, like, Brittany do that, and it's like, this is not... It's too heightened and it's too emotional. Every time she speaks up and calls someone out, I'm like, deal with your shit first. I don't like... You're too tragic to, like, call anyone out. And, like, I give grace, too. It's like, I've had addiction in my family. Like, I can't even imagine, like, dealing with that. But it's, like, exactly. It's like, let's maybe, like, turn inward and kind of just, like, figure this out. Because it's, like...

You know, you feel bad for her, but then she says things like, I kind of wanted him to fight for me. It's like, babe.

fight for you. Yeah. No, I know. You gotta get out of it. Like, you're shocked he didn't pay rent? Yeah. And I think there's ways to show addiction on Bravo and to show kind of, like, dysfunctional. Like, Mary Cosby. I don't know if you guys watch YouTube. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Mary Cosby and her son. Like, that was... That was so brave. Genuinely, it's close to home to me and my family's situation. I was like, this is such a respectful way of doing this, but also letting the audience in, which is, like, so vulnerable. And, like,

I respect how that whole situation was done, but now it's like, it's being used as like, not Utah, but the Valley it's being used as like a drama indicator. And it's like, that shouldn't be pointed at as like, Oh my God, like this drama next week. It's like, no, that should be like, that's sad. Like, let's like not do that. You know what I mean? I don't know. I, I completely agree with you. But props to page. I mean, I love someone who leaves out on top, like she's best and page. I did a long, long audition process with her for something for like a,

And we had a bunch of chemistry reads. And she is...

somebody that is completely herself when the cameras are on off. She has the it factor. I think that her PJ line, Daphne, like I obviously when influencers or creators come out with lines, we're like, oh, it's another one. I think it's going to be very big, like a base, like a like a road. I think she's business savvy. I love her. And I love somebody who goes out on top. I love it because you have to you have to know. And she didn't make it like this is my last season, the whole season. She was kind of like, OK, so I did that in

I'm leaving. And it makes sense because it's like she wants to sit in bed like I fucking do too. Like, I'm not going to go to a party house. Where's Summer House go from here? Like, Carl did not leave. There was like a fake announcement. I was actually happy for Carl when I saw the fake announcement. After watching the Lexi and Jessie of it all wrap up of part one and bled it into part two, there wasn't like...

I wasn't that interested in the rest of part two. There's no Amanda and Kyle, like, will they, won't they have a kid someday? Again, that's just...

Yeah, I think that I heard I saw on Brianna Chicken Fry's like TikTok or story that like she was talking to summer house people at one point. But I think there's a way in which I think Danny Pellegrino said it have like a sex in the city like show with the people in the city during the week running businesses having drama like I would watch that because whenever they're in the city, they're doing more than when they're in the Hamptons and they can film more places and then do a

separate summer house that's kind of like more of a Love Island-y audience. Like a, not younger, but like a, I want to go out and be messy. And like hook up with people. And hook up with people. Yeah. And then stop and go for the other guy in the house. Right, right, right. I think it needs to be that. I think it's okay to also say younger too because I'm like, we grew up with

the cast it's what 10 seasons 9 seasons in that I'm like they're all well in their 30s they're established they're having kids they're getting married they're starting businesses that I'm like that's the real stuff that we would want to be seeing in our demographic but I feel like when I started watching the show I was in their age demographic and I was like yes party the mess the making out in the pantry and I've never been to the Hamptons but I watch the Hamptons every weekend on my Instagram stories from every influencer so it's like there's an audience out there doing that stuff like you know what I mean like I

I know Starflaunch has those chicken tower chicken tender towers I've never been there because I watch it on my stories I haven't either I hate waiting in line

I hate waiting in line. Same. And not in a pretentious way, but in, like, a way where it's, like, okay, like, waiting in line for, like, two hours and then you go and stand in, like, a room and you're, like, okay, like, well, like, what am I really doing? And then I hear everything's, like, really far away. It kind of reminds me of, like, a stagecoach or a Coachella where the parties are, like, an hour away. Where it's, like, okay, this is...

I like my bed. I like to comfort. Inconvenient fun. Yeah, inconvenient fun. Or it's like the pregame is always more fun than the event. Yeah. Because then you're like in the Uber on the way there and you're like, it's going to be so fun. I'm on board. Like, you know what I mean? You're just like, yeah. And then you get there and you're like, what am I doing? Does anyone watch Sirens?

Yes, I did. Oh my God, we just finished it last night. I think it was so, also the- The second to last episode was awesome. I didn't love the ending. The actress from the UK who was in House of the Dragon, she's the younger sister. She plays Simone. Simone, yeah. I don't know if you've seen her interviews. She's British?

She's British. Yeah. And she's also like the complete opposite of her character. She's so like in interviews, somebody will be like, when you signed up for House of the Dragon, do you think it was going to be like Game of Thrones? She's like, not really. Like I, did anybody say we were trying to be like that? I don't know. Like whatever. She's so not media trained in the best way. I love that. She's definitely going to, and she's going to, she's playing Supergirl. I'm not into Marvel or those like superhero movies, but I think she's going to have like a big Jennifer Lawrence, like,

I'm relatable on a carpet and I'm a good actress. Rise to fame. And I'm here for that for her. I like her. Did you just see, they just posted it, Harris Dickinson doing the road mist spray campaign? No. Oh my God, I didn't see that. I like him. I like him too. Is he going to be in the new Beatles movie? I believe so. I actually think he is, yeah. Which I'm so excited for because I'm a palm eyes cow. That's the freestyle.

And speaking of the UK and speaking of Love Island, I literally want to move to the UK more than anything. I love it there. I try to go as much as I can. And I think Jojo Siwa being a UK TV personality makes the most sense of anything I've ever seen in my life. The Chris Hughes of it all. I'm sure you guys will hang out with Chris Hughes or have met him. I was an OG Chris Hughes fan. I watched Love Island season three live. So what do you think of this relationship?

Okay. So I... His ex came out and said she's really famous. That was her response. Olivia. Was Olivia the ex? Yeah. So I love Olivia. I'm an OG Love Island UK girl. So his season, I don't know if you guys have watched it. You need to go and watch it. Especially if you get like, have surgery or get your tonsils out or something. It's a good one where you can sit and just watch the whole thing. It...

shifted the tone of Love Island forever in a positive way. It's so, so good. I think the relationship is a little weird, but I'm happy because I think she belongs in the UK, especially from a media perspective. I feel like in the UK, being weird and quirky and yourself and creative and changing all the time is like, people eat that up. Like, it's not looked up as like, oh my God, like that's weird. They're like, okay.

okay cool anyways let's go to the pub like I don't really give a shit but this is entertaining like you know what I mean they wouldn't like dive into like she wore the da da da da um so I'm happy for her I do think it's a little weird just cause like I love Dance Moms and I love Love Island UK and I'm thinking at the time that those came out I'm like I would've

literally never in a million years put this together but I'm happy I think that it's so smart not that it was planned you know what I mean for her to be a big UK TV personality but it makes so much sense so much sense she seems really happy and I don't blame her for wanting to like be there yeah I it's just I look forward to meeting him you guys need to watch Love Island season 3 no yeah we do it shifted everything because before that

Love Island was a raunchy, raunchy show. People would hook up on top of the beds and everybody would stand around and watch. Like it was so raunchy and they would drink all day, smoke cigarettes. And then Love Island season three became so big because of the cast that

the cast from that all became household names, major media stars. Chris's ex is like a huge, huge, huge TV personality. So they changed the age, like level or grade of the TV show. So more families could watch it after that season because it became so big. And that's why they can't smoke cigarettes on screen anymore over there. I don't drink as much because that's that season was so big, but watch it. It's incredible. Well,

Well, this is a great segue to get into Love Island. So obviously we have the beginning of season seven. Season six was an absolute behemoth. What are you thinking so far? Do you think it's living up to the hope and hype? It's more hope, I guess, than hype, just obviously because season six was such an anomaly. I'm watching it early on pretty optimistic.

And I'm trying to like have patience because one, there's like 30, so many episodes. I think we forget like how much time it takes for some character arcs to happen. Like we didn't think of Leah and Rob in the beginning of the season of season six is that we thought of them at the end of season six. There was a lot of like, who are these people? I'm not sure. Rob caught some heat from jumping in the pool, yada, yada, yada. It took some time. What are your thoughts?

So as a Love Island enthusiast, I've watched all of UK, all of Australia, now US. I got flown to Fiji in 2023 when they were really trying to push Love Island USA. I went to the villa. I talked to the showrunners. I

I saw how the sauce was made and I gave my point of view of what I think could happen or should be done. And then Love Island USA exploded. I'm happy for it. But my point to that is there's a formula to Love Island. And I think audiences from the USA aren't used to that. So they're like, wait, why isn't this like last season? Like,

There's a formula. You have to wait it out. Seasons, I mean, weeks three and four always pop off. The cast have more of it all. So although it's, you can't, and you also can't compare seasons. Like Love Island UK is,

is every season is different for a reason, but that's what makes it great. I will say when I tell people in the UK, I love Love Island. They're like, oh, that's yeah, I watch it too. But it's kind of like a Jersey Shore. It's still kind of seen as like not trashy, but like, oh, that's like reality TV, which is what makes it good because the people who go on aren't like I'm a brand. Yeah. And I think the USA is already turning into people coming on being like,

I'm a brand, which is my biggest critique. I mean, Ace is a YouTube star. Yeah. And they did pick people for the most part who have like lower fallings, but you could tell they're all, I'm a star already, which is like my biggest critique about USA. I think it'll be good. I'm always a Love Island USA, not hater, but like I'm very critical and I tell everybody, I'm like, please watch UK and then watch USA to really understand it and take it in. But I think there's stuff there. I think there's meat there. And I think

I liked the first week. And I'm kind of like a hater when it comes to USA. And I was enjoying it. I thought the first elimination had way more stakes than I was expecting. Usually the first couple eliminations, you're like, meh. It was kind of obvious. But between Beldasha. Beldasha. She had star potential. I have something to say about Beldasha.

Her thing on Instagram is Isabel Anne. So I'm like, is the A? A rebrand. A rebrand. She's rebranding. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, was that purposeful? Here's what's going to happen with Beldasha. And you can literally put millions of dollars on it. She's going to come back as a Casa Amor girl.

It's going to be this week. They're going to bring in something, somebody for Sierra. That's going to like, be like, Oh, so what is his name? Right. They're going to make Nick's now going to be like, well, I know what I put you through and I really do want to be with you. And she's like, well, you didn't pick me right away. So I have to explore my options. She's going to have a guy. She's going to pick them at the end. Nick, the third week is going to be them. Okay. Now we can finally be together. Now that we don't have two other people in the picture.

Fourth week's going to be Casa Amor. They're going to bring in Beldasha. That's what's going to happen. Mark my words. Clip this. Put it on Instagram. You're welcome. That's pretty good. But that is what's going to happen. It's happened on Love Island UK before where like kind of somebody with a lot of potential gets eliminated. Is it Molly? The first week. What? Is it Molly? Yeah.

I didn't like that they brought her back. I didn't expect that to happen. But yeah, that's going to happen. But I loved her. I thought she was so cute. She was quirky. I struggled with her in the first couple episodes. I mean, she spoke TikTok. She made me feel like I was a boomer. I mean, the amount of stuff that she was saying, I'm like, no.

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what works though. It's like, it's weird. I'm like, what? Where are we? It's unique. It's different. You're like, you don't, you think you hated it at first and then you're like, and then you're like, there's something there and you're like, I can't believe she's gone because either way, we talked about her. You know what I'm saying? While we watched her,

We paid attention to Beldasha. It's like she spoke in Morse code, though. Yes. Well, I think I watch Love Island UK and I'm like, oh, the way they speak their lingo is like, I think like that's just UK lingo. But then in my head, I'm like, oh, is that their version of like Gen Z lingo? Because when I'm watching this, I'm like, I'm 31. And but I'm with the kids. I'm on TikTok. Like, you know what I mean? And I'm like, what?

What are they saying? That is me. But it's in a way where it's like... That's where I think it's a little on-brand because they'll be like, girl, like...

they'll say it as it's like a slogan. I'm like, are they trying to make a TikTok sound out of this? Like, don't you feel like sometimes they're trying to make a TikTok sound out of it? I'm like, okay, but. Do you think Shelly and Ace are playing the long game? No. So I, by the way, Shelly looks like Halle Bailey. Gorgeous. All the girls this season. Stunning. Literally, I'm like, what the hell? Like, breathtaking. Yeah.

I think I predict that Ace is going to find his girl in Casa Amor. I think they're going to play this like a little long game here and there up until then. But I think he has Casa Amor girly written all over him in a way that it's like going to work out in the end. Not like he's going to like leave and then like come back. I feel like he's it seems very calculated. You know what I mean? But I feel like I don't know. I don't.

Am I the only one who doesn't see them together? I think it's too perfect. It's too like, oh my God, invisible string. Everybody wants them together. And everybody in the comments I see on Instagram is like, why didn't he pick her? Whatever, blah, blah, blah. But I'm not the biggest. I'm not really rooting for them. I don't know. Really? I just feel like- You're rooting for them? They seem to be the two smartest people in the group. In what way? There's some of the other conversations like between, they're just a little, it's more-

Like, who's the girl that Ace picked? Amaya. Amaya. And who's the Florida boy? Austin. When they talk, it's like, I get these people. They just laugh. They goof. It's like, it seemed like Shelly and Ace would have deeper conversations, and they seemed to enjoy that about each other. And it seemed like they could really...

Have an emotional relationship that I don't feel like I see with Ace and Amaya. Do you ever put on your producer hat, though? Like, sometimes I have a producer lens on when I'm looking at it. And I'm like, the producers saw the audience. Because this is filmed in real time and posted in real time, essentially. They saw, oh my god, they knew each other in the outside world. Let's tap into this. The audience loves this. So we're going to show them this.

having these deep conversations because we want to push that narrative. And whether they get together or they don't, that's going to cause drama. That's true. Because I was pissed when he didn't pick. Exactly. So I think that... But Austin is... Why do I weirdly not hate Austin? I don't know. I think that...

he's so weird. It's like, I can't understand him. So maybe that's why I'm like, I can't hate him because I don't understand him. Like, I'm like, this is just bizarre. And I weirdly think, because I like, maybe it's because I like Shelly and Shelly still kind of likes him. So I'm like,

Is there something there? I don't know. It's weird. Someone said he looks like someone drew Justin Hartley from memory. Well, and that 1,000%. And Nick is like the Walter Goggins. He also looks like Walton. He's got a pimple patch. Oh my God. I'm like, none of these girls can cover him with a star-faced pimple patch.

Because he's being evil. I know. Literally. I was like, these girls are fighting over this man with his pimple. It's crazy. Literally. But speaking of him, okay, this is controversial. I know everybody was mad at him for not picking Belle Dash A. Oh, I wanted him to pick Sierra. But I also like, I think it is a little bit of like, it's week one. And like, he was put in that position. I don't necessarily, and this is not pick me, because trust me, I fucking hate men. Like, hear me out. But like...

I don't. Safe space. I hate men. Safe space. But I don't think he's like a bad guy or like an asshole. Like, I think like,

I think it was a little manipulative on the side of like, you know she wasn't here to kiss. And then you took her up to soul ties and you were like, let's run back forth base. Like you got her to kiss you again. And then giving that speech, he's like that whole, we shared that special moment. Pause. She's like, and he goes in the photo booth. There is this one thing I noticed with young men on dating shows. And I think they are like Jesse Solomon did a little bit. The way, the way they fuck up and do these women dirty is,

and then immediately like forgive the women for something. Taylor, he was like after... This pissed me off. Yeah, he goes, well, I forgive you to Alandria. You know, she talked to him. He came up to her afterward and he was like, yeah, no, I forgive you for how you... It's like...

why you forgive her for what? Nick said this, some version of that to, I think either Ciara or Beldasha, where it's like these guys immediately like turning on these women. It's like these women did something wrong. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, this is also what I think you would say lacks. I feel like,

In UK, the male friendships and the men that go on that show are likable. Yeah. And I feel like on USA, the men are villainized right off the bat because they're doing stupid shit. And I'm like, I hate you already. Like, I don't even like you. Like, what are you doing? And like, especially like when they would like win a challenge or band together, they all sit up and left all the girls on the couch. I'm like, they're not really likable. And like, maybe they think

think that doing that is gonna like give them a story arc or like maybe the producers think that that's what we want to see but i'm also kind of like yeah it just it never paints them in a good light i don't think they know what they're doing but then when they do do sweet things i'm like oh they're only doing this because they want to look like the good guy so i'm like i can't win as an audience member why don't the women like charlie more i feel like he's hot as fuck yeah he

He's got a great voice. Like, and the women just ignore this guy. Like gave them the, no, he is my number one. Also the girl that he's with hand is her name. Hannah. Yeah. People say on tech, people keep tagging me in her tech talks and say that we look like a little bit. I think it's cause we like both kind of have like a little bit of a list and like talk out of the side of her mouth.

I think that they're going to go far. Like, I think they're going to grow into something. I love them. Girls, if you go on Love Island in the future, I always say pick the underdog. Pick the underdog. There's a reason why everybody's going for the assholes at first.

And the guys who were in the back, it's like, those are the slow burns. Those are the ones that are good. I have no idea why nobody liked him. And they all were putting him on first base or not picking him. Like, you don't want to make out, man. He has an accent. He's like, what is happening? Yeah, and he seems like the most level-headed. And after the game, he's like, I think I gave all the girls the ick. I was like,

You gave all the girls that down. He was so nervous about that. So that's just him being self-aware, just knowing what the ick is, just like conscious that like he might do something. These other guys can't even comprehend they might turn off women. Yeah, literally. And like every time they like fuck over a girl, like when the guy was like, and they're back to 50-50, all the guys were like, yeah!

Yeah. It's like, what are we doing here? Like, I completely agree. I have no idea. Then that also is like, I think he brought it up, which is another self-aware point. He's like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in middle school. Like, I'm not the guy that they had a crush on in high school because our cultures are different. Yeah. So they're not like seeing me right away and being like, oh my God, you know, just because he's different. But yeah, I'm like, why is nobody after him? I have no idea. This might be controversial, but I...

I hate the way Huda went about telling Jeremiah that she's a mom. It felt so... If I'm her child, it's giving you're embarrassed of me. It's giving you don't want to share...

If, if God forbid this ever happens, Nick and I get a divorce and I'm on Love Island USA. Which I don't know if I'd ever do. I have to leave my child for two months with no contact. Sorry, not interested, but like I'm leading with that. Right. Like I don't even want to entertain the possibility of someone who's not like going to love my daughter. So like, why would I even like hide that for a moment? She told the women immediately, like,

open the door with being like, hey, my name's Huda and I'm a mother. So if you don't have the mature responsibility to deal with that, then don't even try to fucking talk to me. I want to give her grace, but after hearing Natalie's take while watching it, I feel like it's giving, I want to stay on the show. I have a theory. Give it.

Jessica, love is blind. Hiding that she, not hiding or like not saying that she had kids. Then saying she had kids. Big reality TV moment. Everybody was talking about it. The you will choke. Everything. I think maybe the producer saw that or she saw that. And during her interview process of Love Island, she's like, I'm a mom.

I'm nervous to come on and tell people. And they were like, you know what? Like, this is your show. Like, this is your opportunity. Like, you don't have to tell everybody right away. Maybe tell the girl. I think there might be a little producer of it all. Cause she came and she's like, I'm a mom. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and then her not telling them, I think there might be some sort of producer in her ear being like, I would wait to tell somebody until it's like, you know what I mean? Or she could just be saying that. And like, I'm not a mom.

So I don't get it. But I also and if this might be controversial, but I think that telling somebody from the start not only is like a sign of respect, but it's like this is who I am. Like that's going to be a massive, massive part. Obviously, you don't introduce the kid until you're comfortable and like figure that out. But I do think.

that that was a little weird. And his reaction was completely okay. Because I would be like, 100%. Oh my God. Because when you date somebody who has a child already, I come from a family. My mom was divorced twice by the age of nine. I met boyfriends. I met, I had stepdads.

when you date somebody with a child, you are not dating and going to be newlyweds and have that time alone. Like there's somebody else in the picture. It's a different relationship. Different relationship. Different relationship. So it's like I understood his reaction. But then it felt like she was trying to like sell her dog. She's like, she's got a, she's just like me. She loves arcade. She loves this. She's so cool. She's so this. And it was like, you don't have to do all that. Like you don't have to try to like make her sound like,

Yeah. He'll love her. Yeah. What are your thoughts on them in general? Hey, it's four days in, bitch. Like, you cannot...

She was so mean to that new bombshell. Oh, yeah. So mean. I don't know what it is about her, but she's dirty. She's messy. You just met her like she was playing a game. Yeah. Also going back to like the kid thing. I also think it was how she led into it with the whole like I have a second bedroom. Like say you have an office, like if you don't want to like talk about your kid, but it's like you're setting it up like there's this big scary secret. Even the lead up to that whole thing.

conversation on the dock where it was like, I just have to tell you something. It was like, this could be STD. I murdered someone. The, we're a mom and they're just,

They're not playing the long game. And I think they're just going to burn out way too early. Well, I think... I haven't really seen the narrative online about this. But if we go all the way and win... That... I texted Leia literally was like, did you catch something that was a giant red flag? That was obviously... And he's like, well, I mean, like, make it to the end. And he corrected himself.

now in my head from a producer like by the way i've never produced anything in my life i'm this is just this lens that i have some people are just born with it yes literally you have the gene yeah maybe it's because i always say like the tv raised me like the tv was my babysitter amen now from this point if anybody comes in and tries to date her or pursue her they're going on to be the good guy to have that role on the show of like you know what like

I'm going to come in and like be the guy that like takes it well that she has like and if they stay together in his head he's like I'm going to win the show because like I'm going to be the

guy that she deserves and we're gonna have this family and that's gonna make people root for us like I feel like she is set up for failure no matter what which like sucks but I think that like if they ever break up the next guy who comes in who tries to be with her it's gonna be for a reason which might be why she was kind of like hesitant to say she had kids to begin with but like I just think that like there is no way shape or form where she's going to leave this happy and

which will be good for the show and might be good for her socially or like career wise. But I just think that like, it's going to explode. It's going to explode. Like there's no way. And, but I will say maybe I've worked, I've been working on my emotional maturity. I'm in a healthy relationship now, you know, I'm in therapy and I totally think that she approached the situation wrong, but maybe it's just cause like, I'm like not like a prude, but like I saw the guy that I really liked doing that with all these girls and

maybe it's because I like didn't date a lot. I would kind of be like, oh my God, like that hurts me. Like that upsets me. I wouldn't react like that. She has every right to like have her feelings hurt, right? Like I think it's hard to see any of these girls like, you know, for Alandria to watch like Taylor make out with all, I think it probably like there was a moment in her head where she was like, damn, that kind of sucks. Like whatever. But I think the fact that she was like,

death staring this man to the point where he felt so uncomfortable he couldn't even participate in the fucking game. He was like, I didn't even kiss her back. My hands were on her. He's whipped in four days. It's giving like he is scared of her. I also think the thing with Love Island that makes it great and horrible for the people, which is all reality TV, is since there's no phones, no books, no nothing, you literally...

have nothing, all of their attention. Energy, all their energy. Energy goes to the person they're pursuing. Yeah. So from a girl's perspective, they're like,

This is what I've always wanted. Look, a man is giving me all of his attention. This is love. Yeah. And guys are like, well, I'm bored. Like, I'm just gonna... Yeah, I guess this is really all I have to do. You wanna have another chat? Yeah. So in their heads, they're like, even though it's been four days, they're like, no, like, this is, like, 100% real. Like, he's given me everything. I've always wanted his full attention. But it's like, it's been four days. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I do wish...

some of the women would check huda like aced it of him being like we're four days in she's like i don't care it's like i wish some of these women would be like babe you can't be pissed off at this bombshell she's doing her job well because i have a kid and i told him then like he needs to take me more serious because one thousand percent if i was her i'd be like yeah like i need you to take me more seriously i have a child but from his perspective he's like

well, I came on this dating show. Like, I don't know if I want to have a kid. You know what I mean? So it's like, you can't be taken seriously when you're on Love Island squirting ketchup up people and like swallowing popsicles. Like you're just not going to be taken seriously. And you didn't lead with, yeah, you didn't lead with I have a kid. And like, I can still think in her head, it's 100% feasible for her to be like, well, I want the guy who's with me to like respect me. And like,

want to be with me. Like, I just told him I have a kid, but it's like, yeah, we're on Love Island, though, and, like, that's not what... It's the Bachelor. Yeah, he didn't sign up for that. It's early, but who amongst this cast do you think has the biggest star potential outside of Love Island? Do you think there's the PPG element possible with this group of cast? Is there a Rob, so to speak? I think this is a very...

Even though they're focusing on the men, I think this is a girl heavy season in the sense of personalities. I mean, none of the guys' personalities really blew me out of the water at all. I think it's really early to tell, but I say I think that Ciara is going to be a big fashion influencer girly after. Isn't she kind of already somebody in Arizona? Yeah, I follow a girl who is good friends with her, and I think she's kind of like a

fashion influencer girly, but I think they're not really showing much of her personality right now because the storyline, I think she might come out as like a leader of the trio of the friend group. Like I think she's going to have a big story arc. And I also think Alondria, I think she's going to be a big person. She's stunning.

Stunning. Her body during the challenge. Also the way that she checked Jeremiah being like, are you not scared? That he's like, yep. Yeah, I think though, I think Orlandria is going to have a big story arc. I think she's going to get hurt and then maybe have a happy ending. And I think that

Charlie and Hannah. Is that her name? They're quiet right now. I don't ever think they'll bring drama, but I think they like might be the couple. I think they might last very, very long. And like he might stay faithful to her and Casa more like I have faith for them. But listen, next week, it literally might be like him, like making out with every girl in the house, which he did when he walked in, which I also thought was like, what the hell? Did you see Austin take a shower and then smell his underwear and wipe his face with it? I didn't. OK, I didn't. I wish I didn't. Or the IUD that fell out.

Oh my God. People are so fucking stupid. You know what? That was crazy. You know what the IUD means? No, everyone, everyone was talking about that. Yeah. You know what that means? What? All that means is that they're the biggest show on reality TV right now. That's like, that's how bachelor nation was like for a while when you had like, when it's fans, they're doing deep dive in these people's lives. When would they would just look, they would,

break down every scene of every show, all that means is you're number one. Yeah. Like, you know, the fan base gets so intense, so, like...

they want to find anything to talk about when they will screenshot an IUD and make such a big deal about it. It wasn't an actual IUD. Whatever it was. They don't just fall out. That's going to be a brand partnership. But I'm just saying, it shows the success of the show and its hype because of just the interest. They're paying that much attention to the show. They're looking for anything to make something. What do you think is going to be

Not the underdog or like somebody who's going to like come up and have a moment. I don't know. I mean, I truly think Shelly is like the most loved right now. Gorgeous. I think because she's bisexual, she kind of like gives that. Do you think she'll ever go for a girl? That's what I want. That's happened in the UK. Has it? Yeah. I kind of want for her to go for a girl. I mean, what? Sierra walked in and was like, I kissed all the guys. Now it's time for me to kiss all of you. I think Sierra's a star.

I think she's a star. And I think she's gorgeous. Yeah. I like her. I don't think they've showed her personality yet, but I think she's going to like maybe this week have a moment where she pops off a little bit in a good way. I was a little bummed and maybe as a show, but when when Nick went back with Beldasha,

I was a little bummed that Sierra didn't like make moves. It's just like, you're like, he's too beneath you to like get all like all kind of desperate about it. I hated that. I hated how, and this is props to her. I just hate how in the confessional she was like, actually, it's like kind of pissing me off that he can't pick somebody. But then to his face, she's like, you know what? This is your journey. Take your time. And like, I, I,

I respect it. Honestly, I encourage it. I was like, I wanted her to pull Charlie. That was very people, that was very like, pick me. And I don't think that's who she is at her core. And I don't blame her for playing that because she's like, I want him to pick me. Obviously, like literally being on the show and being a pick me is the show. Like you want them to pick you. Yeah. I hated that. I was like, what are we doing? Cause sometimes the guys like it when they're like, okay, well like if you're confused, then like,

That's my answer. So Nick forgot that Beldasha existed until she started like getting attention from some of the other men. He's like, I like when somebody's not into me. Yeah. I was like, oh, well, I mean, there we go. But there's the formula. There's the show. Yeah. All right. I thought there was a second he was going to pick Beldasha just because.

it was like because he's with Sierra this week. Yeah. I think he would have picked Beldasha if it wasn't an elimination. I can see that. I can see that because he wanted to like see how that would pan out. Yeah. I think next, but also it's like next week they're going to come in so guy heavy. They're going to bring in like two bombshell because it's all been girls and like that's kind of how the formula goes. They flip week to week of like. I would love for them to bring in. I think Jeremiah said that he was like attracted to Hispanic Latina women. Yeah. Like I would love for them to bring in

a bombshell Latina woman and just see if Jeremiah will just

lean any sort of way because it's it's I want to test this relationship the audience is reacting that way they're like we want Jeremiah's head to turn where I'm like oh my god like he's gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous I'm actually so sorry every time he's on camera I'm like Jesus Christ no he's striking yeah he he is like he looks like an actor somebody I like couldn't put my finger on it but yeah he's absolutely good do you guys do you think he's actually a good guy

He seems like he is, which is... There's no reason to think he's not yet. I mean, the fact that he didn't kiss her back, the fact that he sat down and had that conversation with Amaya and was like, I'm going to go... He didn't flirt. He didn't lean in any sort of way. I don't think bad guys would have looked as uncomfortable as he looked at home base playing that game, or he really looked like he was trying not to kiss Amaya.

one of the bombshells and i feel like uh i feel like the scummy guys would have been at a minimum what about like a wolf in sheep's clothing where it's like saying all the right things like for me i'm like he's very possessive he clearly like has how is he possessive i mean they both are like they're very much like you're not going to talk to anybody it's day two and you're on love island it seems more like her driving i think he started it a little bit and then once she got wind that he was possessive she was like oh i love

Anything is possible. My only worry is like, look at what happened with Scandival. It was a literal national news story. Men know if I go on TV...

and fuck over a girl who people think is a fan favorite i am more than done the thing that is great about love island until they bring in the games where they show the public's comments you don't know who's a fan favorite because like it's life like you know what i mean so in his head he might think okay like she is a mom she's what if after he finds out that she's not he's like so but i

But I also am with you guys. I'm like, you guys seem like a good guy. But like you said, anything's possible. I think they also one more thing I wanted to talk about when the sense of the game with the suitcases with the answers. I think they definitely asked those questions during casting. For sure. Because that's why I think Austin's answers were so crazy because he was probably like, I'm going to say all the shit to get on the

show. Do you know what I mean? Because some of like the answers for all of them like didn't add up. I'm like, this was definitely a casting questions and people played it safe or went completely outside of the box to get on the show. 100% Nick being confused, being like, wait, no, I for sure cheated. Like I've never seen someone out themselves. Also, not his like ex being like,

That was about me. And I knew he told me he didn't cheat on me. How do you know it was you? Five years later. It could be like a high school girlfriend, a middle school girlfriend. And like the bodies of it all being like, how many people have you slept with? Like, I mean, obviously, like maybe I'm just like old, but I was kind of like, and I'm all for everybody. But I'm like to say that on national TV, like with your family watching and stuff like that, like I don't even have a good relationship with my family. I was just like, this is like TV.

TV's crazy. Yes, like, TV's crazy. Like, it's like, okay, so she, okay, yeah, she slept with 18. 18! It's like, what is going on? Like, this is, like, actually fucking crazy. Like, and maybe I'm just, like, old now, but I was like, wow, like, I mean, and good for them. Like, I'm not judging anybody's numbers, but I was like, the fact that, like, this is what we are watching as entertainment and we're, like, loving it.

But it played into the stereotype of how men always lie and they add numbers to their roster and women tend to keep it safe. Do you think it was a little risky of the producers to throw in the nude question given the controversy they had earlier?

Last season. The nudes question? The way these fans start looking and... I mean, yeah, for Austin to be like, thousands of nudes, that's just literally giving the audience a chance to be like, thousands of his nudes are out there, I should go and look for some. My producer goggles were not on for that one. And you guys make an incredible point. That has to be... That's scary. And I...

I like who here. I said, controversial tweets, controversial tweets. Like it's like thousands. As someone who, who, who was born in reality TV, I have so much empathy for just like the, how difficult it can be to like come off these shows. And, and it is infinitely more challenging coming out of love Island because it's one thing to film a show, have the show wrap and,

Go live your life. Anticipate the show airing, you know, three to 12 months later. These people are become famous off the grid. And that is that is like walk out to it. Yeah, it's it's it's not right. It's kind of fuck. It's weird. And it's just like it's.

it's scary it's almost it's cool for them how popular this show is but it's potentially very scary because it's there's so many like clout chasers out there all the exes you know everyone wants their moment they didn't do this on usa but in uk last year they you aren't allowed to post on your social media while you're in the house so you know like now they have friends like running it and gain followers and stuff like that in the uk they stopped allowing people to

post on their social media pages during the show because it was getting like so much bullying and stuff like that. But then also I was like, that's interesting because then like they'll come out inevitably like with less opportunity. I don't know. It was, it was interesting that they did that. And I wonder if they'll ever get to a point in the USA where they do that. Yeah. Cause I wonder if like they're,

maybe Hoda's getting a lot of shit right now but say she makes it to the end and everyone loves her it's like she comes out and she had no idea that there was all that hate and she just comes to like everyone's love and also like the hate can get like like you said like insane insane and you walk out and you're like okay I was a waitress last week and now I'm literally like being the most hated woman

on the internet. Yeah. It's also really early. I think people forget that Leah caught early heat last season, season six, and she became a huge fan favorite. So it's so early. It's the formula. It's the formula. Yeah. Did you ever watch Bachelor? So I watched Bachelor, Emily Maynard season. I watched like early Bachelor. I watched your season because of the toast and

They fucking hated me then. Yeah, you were in the basket of like the people hated. Then you had your redemption arc. You know what's so funny? Speaking of the toast to Nick is I reminded this came up on my For You page. And it's Nick. I guess he has Claudia on. I got to tell Claudia. It was during the pandemic. During the pandemic, he had like Claudia on. It was via Zoom, whatever. And Nick was like,

he like asked her like something about their friendship like yeah like our friendship something and she was like it means so much to me like I honestly like it has changed my worldly view like I don't think I've ever had a friendship like this before in my life and I just like can't believe that we're friends and Nick was like yeah I mean I feel the same way and it was like so clear that she was being sarcastic it was the pandemic I was just practicing gratitude I thought we all could die you know like it's weird because like I'm the biggest reality TV person and like I

Like, I, like, don't really watch The Bachelorette. Like, I'm very good friends with Gabby Wendy. Like, we work together a lot. I love her so much. I went on her podcast. I had no idea she was The Bachelorette. Like, I had no idea. I thought she was, like, on the show. And then I was like, so, like, did you go on that show, like, wanting to get married or whatever? She's like, I literally was The Bachelorette. I was like, oh, what? I literally had no idea. The only reason why I ask is because they are going through a bit of a potential rebrand.

They haven't been picked up. They have their 30th. How would you modernize the show? So I don't know if I can say, I'm pretty sure I can say this. A couple of years back, I met with people about this in the sense of, it was like for an interview with some people from like ABC being like, what do you think the show needs essentially? And I think,

I think I have a TikTok about it from like four years ago. I was deep in my Love Island phase. So I was like, I think you need to bring a little bit of a live aspect to it in the sense of like my idea was –

So you know how sometimes they show like the first three people that are going to be on the show once they announce the Bachelorette, they like show the audience, people who are going to be on the next season or whatever. I think that there should be some sort of thing where the person who's the Bachelor or Bachelorette gets like a Tinder almost. And so does the audience. It's like an app and you like swipe left or right. There's a little bio to say like who you want to be on the show or not. And then the person does that. And then like three weeks into the show, they bring in some of the people that the host, the...

Bachelorette said that they wanted or add some of the people that the audience wanted to see that wasn't there originally. Like, I think there needs to be some sort of live aspect to it. But at the same time, it's like you could try to rebrand and reinvent the Bachelor Bachelorette. And people have said it's needed it for so long, obviously. But then it's also like,

will that really still be the bachelor bachelorette if it's fully regretted? I think it could. And we were on the same page. It's kind of like let a dead dog lie, though. That's sometimes how I feel about it. They're going to try. We were talking about it about an hour before you showed up. I think the lead needs to have some kind of involvement in the casting. I think the lead should have a phone throughout the season that's not their phone. It's a show phone. It's controlled by the phone.

when you're not on a date, someone could text them. - Yep. - Modernize it in a way instead of like showing up at the door. - Ooh, I like that, yeah. - Yeah, and like the lead has some say and like I think they should cast 60, not 30.

and allow these women to go online and start being characters online before they even show up so the audience gets invested in them. I agree. I said that for a minute, too, because it's like you should have a little bit of a say. It doesn't need to be a full shock factor, you know what I mean? I don't know. We have a little bit of breaking news. Justin Baldoni's $400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds has been dismissed by the judge. Pop off. Kind of crazy.

That's insane. Are you guys very much team Blake and team Ryan? Yeah. So I am not as deep in it as somebody might think that I would be. See, I am so bad with like propaganda, which is probably not like a good thing to say. But like when I'm on TikTok and I see one TikTok on one person's sides giving all the facts, I'm like, wow, you know what?

team then and then I see the next deep dive and I'm like oh my god yeah literally so it's so hard yeah um it's also a very PR agencies getting involved like to specifically trash other people's images I'm like I have no idea what if what I'm seeing is real or not it's also a very toxic subject we've left it alone for a while because people are very very opinionated on it and it's just been like not worth like we've been like y'all

know our stance. I mean, my stance started when I interviewed Justin years ago, and he's probably the, well, he's the only guest I ever had that I had a very visceral negative experience where I just felt like it was a fraudulent person. It was just my opinion, my take. And yeah, I just wasn't surprised. And then just, I think people are just ignoring, like I've said before, the claim was always sexual harassment, not sexual assault.

And making someone feel uncomfortable in the workplace, obviously there's a spectrum of that. But I think the real crime that people are completely ignoring was his response to that, which was the online, the team that he hired to go out and have this very organized smear campaign that I think is just a very elaborate thing

and very kind of scary thing about like how, how people can go after their accusers. And the same way that, you know, that, that that's a playbook as old as time, but now that it's, it's an elevated playbook using the power of the internet, which I think is very scary. And you saw him do that. And I think everyone's kind of ignoring that. I want to know, I don't know if it would be a documentary or like a scandal type show, but,

Where they show the inner workings of those agencies doing that. Like that is just, and it exists. Yeah. And everybody in the industry knows this exists, but the consumer is so blind to it, which is like another thing that like I find extremely fascinating, especially ever since being in the public eye and kind of being on the back.

end of it is like and having my best friends from home who grew up in new hampshire and boston when they speak about celebrities and bring things up i'm like oh you you don't get it like you don't you read what the internet's like you you get what their pr team is trying to put out there i'm like it's just so interesting i mean i have not dove into the um

the whole case fully. But I am interested to learn more about those techniques and that agency and how that works. Because imagine being the person

who works on a PR team like that? How does one feel about themselves? I don't know. I mean, that would be an interesting, kind of like how the studio has done this deep dive and how that industry is. If there was some sort of show about the inner workings of publicists. Big win for Ryan and Blake. And I think once this thing finally goes to court on the other side of the thing, I still think that you're going to

the witnesses that are included in the original claim, I think a lot more will come forward and glad I was on that side of things from the beginning.

Robin, always fun and always a pleasure to have you. Thanks for coming on. Where can people find you? It's so funny. When I started Girl Boss Town, I never thought that I would be professionally known as a girl boss. It's like literally the most cringy thing ever, but you know what? I'm owning it. So it's at Girl Boss Town on TikTok and Instagram, giving my pop culture commentary, my predictions. I also do creative consulting on the back end as well. Should we hire you? I feel like maybe we need you. Guys, I'm here. Period. Um,

But I have so much fun whenever I come on here. You guys speak my language. So thank you so much. It's so fun to pick your love island brain. It's an honor to have you back. Up next, we have the very hilarious Jim Jeffries and his wife.

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Just a little anecdotal story. When Jim came here, he's promoting his new show that he's hosting on The Snake on Fox. His wife, Tazi, came with. She's a big reality TV fan. And so we're like, do you want to sit on the couch and talk some reality TV with us? And she came and she sat and we had a great conversation. And somehow, someway, Tazi's father's name got brought up.

His name is Derek. We were just talking names. About their kids. About their kids. And sadly, and I've talked with Taisy and asked if it was okay to share the story, but we found out after they left that Taisy's father, Derek, died of a heart attack while we were recording that show. And I only bring it up because it just reminds you just how short life is. Thoughts and prayers go to Taisy's family and her father. We love them and we love their family. And just hug the ones that you love because you just, you never know. Jim Jefferies.

Jim, welcome back. Thanks for having me. And you brought your lovely wife with you, Tasey. My wife is a big fan of all things that you talk about in this show. She wasn't going to be on the air. I wasn't. She just wanted to come and watch. Well, yeah. And we were just like, well, sit on the couch. But you said, do you want to sit on the couch? And she took it like that. Right.

She was like, yes. And she was down. Listen, anyone who's passionate about what we're passionate about, we love to bring them on. And obviously you've been on before recapping The Bachelor with us. Was it your wife who got you into The Bachelor franchise? Me and the wife got into The Bachelor. It's weird because I had a joke about The Bachelor and I started saying to my wife, I started saying, oh, my wife got me into The Bachelor. Neither of us watched it, but I had a joke because I'd watched one episode. And then...

And my wife was like, why are you dragging me down with this trashy TV? How dare you make me blah, blah, blah. Then COVID happened and we watched like every season. We signed off ironically. Yeah, ironically. Like taking repairs. That's how I ended up going on the show. I was making fun of my buddy's wife who was watching it. And I was like, why are you watching this stupid show? And she's like, shut up. I'm going to sign you up. And I was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then it changed my life. Oh.

And now we're upset. No, we've watched all the seasons. Sometimes if we have no TV to watch, we will go on Hulu and go, what season haven't we seen? It'll be like season six, 2008, you know, and we'll watch it. It's in black and white. No, they're better those episodes because no one wants to get followers. No one, like there's no podcast to be had or anything like that. Everyone's legitimately looking for love. It's weird. It's kind of creepy. Yeah, definitely not a fun. Psychotic. Yeah.

Well, you are here because you are hosting a new reality TV show called The Snake on Fox, which premieres tonight at nine. Very excited about that. Obviously, we're going to talk to you about some other reality TV in general, but let's... I think, look, I was doing another game show in Australia and I got the phone call and they said, Fox wants you to host a game show in America that's going to film in Argentina.

in six days time. And I was finishing and I said, look, I don't finish here for eight days. And then they went, all right, you can come out in eight days type of thing. So I flew out to Argentina. I really just think that I got the job because the show's called The Snake and this accent. Yeah. Has there ever been another Australian game show host in American TV history? Honestly, I don't think Americans can say the word snake.

I had to go, who's going to be the snake this week? Who's going to be the this this week? And all that type of stuff, right? It couldn't be an American. And I think they thought that maybe I had a little bit of the Steve Irwins about me, that I could just pick them up and go, I've got a snake. But I'm as scared of snakes as anyone else. Was that like a letdown for them? Did they find that out later? Oh, we don't.

There are physical snakes in the show occasionally. They're not common. It's not every episode with a snake. The idea of the show is there's a snake medallion. You want to be the snake. The snake isn't the bad person. The snake changes each week. And so you win competition to become the snake, and then the snake has extra voting power and extra control. So it's a social game. So if you're the snake, all the other housemates start sucking up to you that week. Oh.

Because you have to be nice to the snake. If you're on the bad side of the snake, you're out of the show. So the snake is like a bit of false friendship. They wield all the power. They wield all the power. The snake wields all the power. And I have to give people the medallion. I have to hold the medallion. I've got this medallion that I hold up and go, who wants this medallion? Yeah.

I really take it very seriously. I've seen the promo. I haven't seen the first episode, but what really drew me is like the show seems to lean into like old school, like tropes of characters, like how Bachelor, when they had the cast, it was like the pilot, the engineer. You guys have a pastor. We have a pastor who's wearing the outfit. Where's the collar? Where's the collar? We have a cop who's...

who's wearing like a bulletproof vest all the time. Like she comes out, like not when they're in the house, but when they're doing contestant games. We have an OnlyFans creator. She's just wearing nothing. Yeah. No, no. So we have an OnlyFans creator. We have a cop. We have a detective. I'd say the detective, look, look, I'm...

heterosexual fella, but something for the mums, I tell you. Handsome fella called Derek. I'm just chilling you out there. Nice guy. I tell you what, I liked all the contestants in the end.

To begin with, there's such a distance between being the host and the contestants where you don't really see them. They all hang out with each other. You see them at the challenges and the voting ceremonies and what we call the saving ceremony in this show. But over the course of the weeks of the show, I actually got quite fond of all of them. So there wasn't any one that you were rooting for to win? Yeah, there's people I wanted to win. Look, I had my favorites, but I wouldn't say it. I'm not my mother. Oh, God.

I'm not going to tell you in front of your brothers. What did you think of the pastor? Cause I saw that and I immediately like my spidey senses go up because I think like my

men, women of God, like they wield so much power because in their communities, people look to those people as, you know, therapists sometimes like they're like the closest connection between themselves and God, you know? And so I'm like a pastor who wants to be famous. Like at first I had the initial, and I said this to him, I said, I have a repulsion towards people wearing that outfit. I'm not, I'm an atheist.

I just don't like priests and stuff like that. I find it creepy. And also, we all know what's going on in the Catholic Church and all that type of stuff. New Pope. So I have an initial, like, ugh, to the whole situation. And I said it to him. I said, mate, I said, I said...

Ordinarily, I don't really like people like you or I avoid people like you, but I think you're a really nice guy. He was a really sweet guy. Me and him connected on the same level. We're both dads. He's got a two-year-old daughter. I've got a three-year-old son. You know what I mean? So we sort of talked on that face level. Is your kid watching Bluey? You know what I mean?

And then once we got to that level, and I just chatted to him, he was a solid-ass dude, man. He's a good guy. Pastor Jacob. I vouch for Pastor Jacob. Pastor Jacob's solid. Pastor Jacob's a solid-ass dude. How did he get along with the OnlyFans? Oh, they were shagging the whole time. There's a lot of bloopers. There's a lot of stuff. A lot.

- A lot of blurred images. - It is weird because the show has an aspect of the big brotherness of people living in a house. You go into a room and there's, you know, you know from The Bachelor, there's like, must be 80 screens, 80 cameras that are all playing at the same time. I'm in Argentina.

The only TV is Spanish speaking television and stuff like that. That became my TV each day. I'd wake up in the morning and I'd text one of the producers, what happened last night? Are they all getting along? Who's not getting along? Did they resolve that conflict? I got

You were invested. I got really into the gossip of all these people and how they were all getting along and all that type of stuff. And, you know, there's a little bit of not to ruin anything, but there's a bit of romance that goes on in the show. There's a little bit of that. There's a bit of romance and there's a bit of competitive. There's a bit of skullduggery. There's a bit of underhandedness because it's a tagline for the show is it's a show about making friends and faking friends. You have to get along. If you don't get along with everyone, you're not getting through.

So there was certain elements of the show that I didn't get to see. So I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. Tasey, are you going to watch too? I will watch. I was just thinking that when he said that you have to pretend to like people. It's like our marriage. It's like our marriage. But also you wouldn't be good at that at all. And I wouldn't be good at that at all. Pretending to like people. I show disdain very easily. I can't hide it on my face. If there's drama, I'll watch it.

Yeah. There'll be a bit of drama. There's a bit of competition. There's like, uh, there's, there's like, there's tough people who, who turn out to be pussies in certain situations. And there's people who you think are weak, who turn out to be strong in other situations. Like those sort of, um,

where maybe you have to eat something or there's some, you know, you have to do something gross, that sort of fear factory type of thing. You can tell a lot about people during those moments. Tessie, is there a show you'd like to see Jim on as a contestant of reality TV? Oh, as a contestant. Okay, I don't know much about...

contestant shows is more just oh my god I always say to him I want him to be on The Bachelor I'm like just go on The Bachelor you have a free pass to kiss some ladies I just want to watch you on it and see you like make jokes I'm too old for The Bachelor and too young for The Golden I'm too young for The Golden

I think I'd go on the golden. They can make a middle ground back there. What about traders? You guys watch traders? Oh, my God. I'd love to be on traders. I want to be on traders. We're big trader watchers. Love traders. We watch the British version and the Australian version and the American version. The British celebrity version coming out right now, because you have the reality stars and the American one. No, but the English one doesn't have celebrities. No, but there's an English celebrity one that's coming out. They've just announced the celebrities, and they're massive British celebrities. These aren't like...

B list in Britain. These are a list celebrities who, who are doing, who are doing the British one. I think they're trying to elevate.

The American version. Don't elevate it too much. I could possibly get into this one. If they make it too big, I can't get into it. I need to just get in this one. But they don't really have comedians and stuff. And I don't know why, because they always want to put like, you know, the Boston Robs of this world, the good game players and stuff. In the British one, they're having like Jonathan Ross, who's the equivalent of David Letterman in,

in Britain. He's the number one Tonight Show host. He's doing it. Alan Carr and all these other different British celebrities who British people would know. Big deal. But big deal type of people. But I think we've told you this before. We're friends with Lisa Vanderpump.

right? I would like to do, and I met her through a podcast and we've become close friends. We go over the house to have Villa Rosa for dinner and she comes to my shows. She comes to my shows and just shows up and just watches the gigs. Her, you know, her and Ken just show up. So would you want to do traders with her? I would like to do something with Lisa on TV. I would like to do, I always say that Lisa's the Martha Stewart to my Snoop Dogg. Well,

Or maybe I'm the Martha Stewart to her Snoop Dogg. But we're an unlikely pairing. Maybe she could put you in the revamp of Vanderpump. Oh, yeah. You could be like a busboy. You could be like the bartender who gives sage advice. The Australian bartender. Or in England, all bartenders are Australian. That's not such a thing here, right? Yeah, well, no, it's not a thing here. It's very racist of you to put it up. Sorry, sorry. Okay.

Yeah, I could do... I don't know. What would I do? Would that feel like kind of... I told you the story about Jax and all that that happened to me on Vanderpump Rules. Say it again. Okay. So this is before I met my lovely wife. This is many years ago. I was in the improv comedy club and I was drunk. I was still drinking back then, so I was drunk. And I was standing at the bar drunk and there...

They had Jax and someone else and two other people. And one of the friends of theirs was doing stand-up for the first time. And that was the episode that they were going to be watching stand-up type of thing, right? They were in the bar section of the improv and they were having a conversation. But every time...

they sort of, you know, had the conversation. Everyone in the bar had to be quiet because, you know what I mean? And so, so all us comics were sort of staying at the bar, like they were coming into our fucking territory. And I was drunk and belligerent about the whole thing. Right. And so, uh, so I said, I don't want to be on camera in the background because I could see the camera was on me. And the guy was like, don't worry about it. You're not on camera. I'm like,

I know what it looks like to be on camera. That camera is pointing right at me. I said, I don't want to be in this thing. Right. So I could have moved out of the way and they go, you're not on camera. I said, okay, great. So I turned back to the bar and I dropped my pants. So my ass was showing in the background of the shot. Right. And I just had my ass hanging out. I was just standing at the bar having a drink with my ass hanging out like this. And then Jax was like this.

Can we get this guy out of here, please? Can we get this guy out of here? And I'm like, oh, dude. He's one to talk. He's known for constantly showing his ass on television. Oh, man. Did he kick you out? No, you can't. I'm the only person who gets me kicked out of comedy clubs. I'm a comedian. You can't.

You can't kick a comedian out. You can't kick a comedian out of the improv, right? And so the whole production thing shut out. We got into a big fight and they had to leave the improv. The scene never happened. They couldn't even set up a scene. They got kicked out because I went, and then I had to apologise to the improv like that. Sorry for causing you trouble and I shouldn't have been an arsehole and the thing. So I was in trouble but they backed me up, which was very nice of them, but I was being a dickhead. Wow.

Wow. Have you seen Jackson's? No, but I told Lisa that story. I think she found the footage. She had someone actually go through it. This is how me and Lisa became mates. I told her this story. That's how tight you are. And I don't think she was that fond of Jacks at the time. And I think so. She was happy. She thought I was cool. She found the footage. Look, she liked, you know, Lisa, she likes a bit of, she likes troublemakers. She's a troublemaker. She does like troublemakers. She's a troublemaker. So me and her, me and her get a kick out of each other. Would you do special forces?

Man, I contacted you afterwards, right? I was so impressed by you. Oh, thank you. I was so impressed by you on that show. And the answer is no. I don't have the mental fortitude. I just don't. I'm not fit. I'm not yet. Like I looked at the people my age doing it. I'm a bit older than you, right? Now, who was it? The guy off Beverly Hills 92, Brian Austin Gray. Yeah. Right. And he was just like.

First day, he's like, I'm fucking out of here. I think I'm too old. I think I'm too old to go through it. Would you do it again in 10 years?

I would, I would like to think I, well, in 10 years, maybe I would try because like I did it this time. One, my wife was like, I think it would be sexy. And I was like, okay. All right. Would it be sexy if I did it or embarrassing? What now or in 10 years? No, now I'm not doing it in 10 years. I'm dead in 10 years. I would find it hot. You do like,

But I also, I just found out now he was pregnant with her, our daughter. And I used it as kind of like, do I still like, can I still do this shit? You know, I used to compete in athletics back in the day and I haven't done shit like that. So like in 10 years, I'll wonder again, like, what do I still got? Like, cause it's, it's really not about physical. I mean, it is to a certain extent, but it's about like not quitting. Mm.

I think I could do the not quitting-ness of it, but I don't think being dunked in water and all that type of stuff, I would panic. There were things I'd panic in. But I was so impressed. We watched the whole thing. It's a good show. Yeah, it was a good show. And look, I don't know about, who's the guy that had the affair on Van? Sandoval. Sandoval. I think he's,

he's an alright dude and she sits there like that going oh after what he did no I never but saying that we watched him in Traders after that right did you still think he was an alright dude in Traders I just thought he was thick in Traders I still think he's a good dude he's but I think he's harmless he's a weirdo he's eccentric we disagree on a lot of like you know he has a moral compass I have a different one but like he has a moral compass I have none yeah

Well, his is very unique, you know? I think most people don't subscribe to his way of life, so to speak. You know what you're getting with him. And he's not clever enough to be that calculated. Right. And it's just like... That's what I was saying. Maybe thick was a harsh term, right? What I meant was when he was on the show Traders, he was...

He was like, oh, I think it's that person. If he said it, you think it was that person. It was never that person. Never that person. He was never on the right scent, not once. Yeah. Yeah. So he's not the devil that he was. Yeah. He made a terrible mistake. He did a bad thing. Yeah. You know, he had a hard time taking accountability. I've met worse people. Oh, yeah. You could do far worse than him, I think, as a friend. Yeah.

This is my take meeting him. All right, we'll be friends. What does thick mean? Stupid. Thick, dumb, dumb. Little ditzy. Thick. Thick, yeah. Thick as a brick. Thick as a brick. Thick as a brick is the term, yeah. You're friends with the Valley. I am. I'm a little behind, though. That's okay. I want it on a high level. We don't have to get into play-by-play of the episodes. But speaking of who I think you could do worse by, Jax, obviously. But Jesse right now. Jesse, to me...

He seems like an emotional terrorist to his ex-wife, Michelle. Yeah, that's a real tricky one. And people on Watch What Happens Live, Andy was like, would you rather be divorcing Jax or Jesse? And everyone's like, oh, I'd rather be divorcing Jesse. But he does seem like a tricky guy to be getting divorced to. Yeah. He wants to emotionally torture Jax.

the mother of his child in a way that like... But so does Jax. The text he sends Brittany, like he doesn't stop. That man is constantly... Yeah, I think they're both terrible options. It's like, would you rather have someone shit on your face or like rub it all over your body? All over your body. You get conjunctivitis in your face. What are you talking about? I would rather...

He's like, easy answer. Nothing with holes. I would rather be divorcing Jesse. I think he would be an easier option. But yeah, I think he still loves her. And it's all because he's still in love with her. Don't you think? Like his ego is so shot that she moved on so fast. It just romanticizes in a way. I don't want to give him that. Okay, we won't do that. We won't do that. But I think...

Or his ego is just really, really hurt that she left him and therefore he's making her pay. I think Michelle would say, if he loved me so much, why did he treat me so shitty while we were married and never gave me attention or acted as if I was invisible? And now that she doesn't want to be with him, now he loves her. Okay, so you're right. It's not love. It's just he still wants her. He wants to be on his terms if they end it or not. Yeah.

It's gotta be brutal though. I've been co-parenting with a young, with a young child, you know, and starting to date other people. Oh my God. And then you have to know your child's around someone else. And they both seem to be, we do that. We do that now a lot. Yeah, but we got lucky. We have like,

the mother of your first child is a wonderful human being. We got really lucky. Well, that's the thing. They seem to be using their people they're dating as a way to piss off the other person. It's like everyone deserves to move on and find love again, but it's...

it gives it's like an icky feeling watching them it's like you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy no no no no that type of divorce with a young child it's tough and same with Jax and Brittany you wouldn't wish that divorce on anyone else the stuff that Jax is able to just say is the most mind boggling thing I mean when they were like Jax you've called her fat you've called her this he's like what do you

you mean fat? I'm attracted to that type of body type. It's like, what? It's just like that type of body type. Like so clearly it's something that like, okay. He's just, he's so toxic. Do you guys get into Love Island at all? Not really. Even with the UK, you know, because it started in the UK. I know. So an English version from forever ago, which is

Molly May was on, I watched and I was so into, but since then I haven't. My 83-year-old father watches the Australian Love Island or the American one or something. He watches one of them. We were with him for Christmas and he goes, oh, no, no, no, leave that show on. Now, it's because my dad can't access the internet. So this is the closest he gets to porn.

Oh, yeah. And it is very close to porn. It's very close. He's found this show with girls in bikinis, right? And he's all over it. He's in his 80s and he goes, oh, no, that one's all right. She's all right. But this one gives this one the ick.

Okay. Someone's learned some words. It's also on like every single night. So he constantly has something to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet he loves it. Yeah, there's like wet, slow motion, slip and slide scenes and like laugh dances. Dirty old man TV all day. All day.

All day. That's funny. Did he give you like the breakdown, like his favorites? No, he literally was like, I just leave this one on. Oh, that one's this one. Good. This one's a bad person. This one's a good person. Oh, she's all right. They give her a hard time for no reason. There was always one that he fancied that they give a hard time for no reason.

I think it was an Australian version. I don't know. I think it was an Australian version. Yeah. Australia always trots out something. I would like to be the host of the Australian Bachelor because I've always thought the Bachelor is the great. There's certain game show hosting jobs. So the 1% Club, you have to read questions and all that type of stuff. And I was like,

I'm telling you a fair that I once cost the show $100,000 because I just read a question badly and I had to read it again and it gave them an extra 10 seconds, which actually made them win the money. Right. Did you get like, did you get a lecture for that? Or did you just, I just was, you know, when you stuff up at work and so you're really helpful. You just walk around like this. Anyone need a coffee? I'm going to grab one. You're so nice. Yeah. You're so nice to everybody. Hey.

You got a new haircut? I love that shirt on you. I mean, that's my nightmare because I'm dyslexic too. And like I get hosting opportunities and every time I have to read a teleprompter, I'm always like, guys, just like a heads up. I'm...

This won't go. It does get better. Doing the Jim Jefferies show back in the day was like just reading a teleprompter for 30 minutes, right? And I would rehearse it through the week and then I'd sit at home the night before and I'd actually go through it like a script so that I actually could perform it like stand-up, right? But doing the game show, I can do the chatting thing, doing the audience thing, and then when I have to read the questions, so I always turn around and the questions on the 1% Club are always things like,

If Jane's on a train and it's traveling at four miles an hour and it's four o'clock in the afternoon and da-da-da-da-da, which country is she in? Well, she's still in Sydney because these other things are inconsequential. Right, right. Jane, you know, this type of thing, right? So, but sometimes you turn around. This is my favorite. You turn around to read the question. Okay, the next question is,

What number is next in this sequence? I'm over the moon. And that question comes up once an episode. I'm like, oh, have a break. You have 30 seconds to answer. Your time starts now. And then when people get the questions wrong, I have to tell them they're stupid after I've read it wrong in front of them. So that's a harder job. I could never do a show with like a speed round. You have 30 seconds on the clock. Your questions start now. That's over. I'd just be like this. Pass. Pass.

Pass. You know what I mean? So deal or no deal, that's a winner. One question. One question. Deal or no deal. And just chatting. There's no teleprompter. Deal or no deal. That's a killer game to host, right? Is it cake? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I could host is it cake. There's a lot of thinking in is it cake. So I've got is it cake, deal or no deal, but The Bachelor. Having to walk out and just go like this.

There's one more roast. And then you just sort of duck away. Kind of let them know how to count. Yeah, you just…

Yep. I know you all see it. That's the end. But doing the snake was weird because you did challenges and they were the only bits where I sort of wasn't sort of doing sort of the company line speech where it's like, you have to hit these marks at this spot. During the challenges, you just commentate like you're watching sport. Oh, that's fine. Someone's swimming through fish guts and you're like this.

All right, Jane's in the front. Oh, Jordan's coming up from behind. It's like a horse race. Yeah, that's right. Fantastic. That's just a bit of fun doing that. Speaking of The Bachelor, they put Paradise on pause last season, and Bachelor in Paradise is premiering, I think, early July, something like that. Why did they put it on pause? What happened?

Well, they've had some drama going on internally, I think. And I think also it just wasn't successful. And I think they wanted to revamp it. They're shooting it in Costa Rica where they've normally shot it in Mexico. I think they're bringing some of the golden people. So I think it's going to be different. What's the health care like in Costa Rica for the golden bachelors?

That's a great question. You're going to need good insurance for that. That's a great question. We filmed The Snake in Argentina, and we were in a place called Iguazu, and Iguazu is like, there's a place called the Iguazu Falls, and it's where Paraguay, Brazil,

and Argentina meet and there's the Parana River. And this is the biggest drug smuggling river on earth because it's international water and those three countries can meet together for the cocaine and get it out into open waters. And so we were just like, the locals were like, yeah, that's a drug boat there. There was one time I was just watching the river, there was a bloke just carrying drugs down to the boat.

So I bought a big bag and this is how, but it's, um, yeah, it's, it's, uh, it was pretty cool, but the waterfalls there like leave Niagara Falls to shame. They're beautiful, stunning. And the beginning of the show, we start at the waterfalls. Everyone's coming in.

in crates and stuff. It's all very fun. It's exciting stuff. Wow. So visually beautiful as well. Oh, it's visually beautiful. The set we had was unbelievable. It felt like Indiana Jones or something like that. Like it wasn't a set. They'd built like structures in the jungle for the challenges and stuff like that. It was pretty cool. But if I,

If I ever eat an empanada again, it will be too soon. Too many. I had so many empanadas. That's the only thing I could eat. This whole idea of Argentinian cuisine, everyone's like, oh, the food, the food. It's just a sauce, chimichurri. That's all they've got. They go, have you tried the steak? Yes.

In every country in the world, cook steak. You're not doing anything exciting. So you've sliced it up and it's on a wooden board and you put some chimichurri on the side. It's just a sauce that's carrying all the weight of their cuisine. The empanadas are all right, but you can't have too many. Do you ever, like when he's doing bits, I've been obviously to Jim's stand up, it's a

incredibly funny. Sometimes he tells a colorful joke that might make some people cringe. Well, about her? He's even put you in the stand-up. Oh, he says brutal things about me. How does that work? Does he run these by you? No, he doesn't. Oh, okay. In my news special, I ask everyone in America if they see her walking down the street to yell out racist homophobe. And

And we were in Vegas. We were in Vegas last week, last weekend, and he did that bit. So we were walking through the casino and I had a bunch of people shouting, racist, homophobe. I was like, people are going to think I'm legit a racist. They were pointing at us. Of course they assume it's me and not the brown woman. Come on now. I would hope so. They're not going to think that you're the racist. When he's doing his stand-up, like practicing, you don't comment on any of the material being like, honestly, that one's not that funny.

that funny. You should cut that out. No, good God, no. And also he runs jokes by me sometimes and I don't laugh. And he's like, you don't get it. You have to watch it. She can't see stand-up if I just tell her a bit. Yeah. Sometimes I can. A lot of people can't. We normally ring up other comics. But when it's on stage, obviously, yes. Right. But when you go, oh, this is a bit, because it's not a joke per se, it's a bit. And so I run them past a bit, no. But also, also look, when I was younger-

and single, my stand-up was about one-night stands and taking drugs and revelry, right? And now I'm married with kids. The comedy has to come from somewhere. So we all have to earn a living here, right? Yeah, yeah. So I have to – that's why everyone's like, my wife jokes or my mother-in-law jokes because where else do the jokes come from? That's true. So you've got to go after the person in the house. I'm not offended at all. It doesn't bother me. Like he says really brutal stuff and –

And we're still here. And we're still here. It was true. I did a routine in my last special about when she was pregnant and she said... Actually, no, that did bother me a little bit. I think I saw that special. About me looking like E.T. when I was pregnant and not wanting to fuck me. Am I allowed to say fuck?

I want to talk about that joke. What joke are you talking about? I was talking about the joke when you were pregnant and you were at the baby shower and you said to your friends that you didn't want to have a white baby. You said, I hope the baby's not white. I hope it's a brown baby. But he left out the reason. He left out the reason. I wanted my baby to be on the browner side because we live in LA where there is a lot of sun and I want some sun protection. I don't want to have to worry about... Yeah, because Jim gets burns like a...

Whatever the sag is for someone that burns quickly. I'm a pale guy. You're a pale guy. So that was the reasoning behind that. So did your baby come out white or brown? He's pretty white. White is good in the world. White is good in the world. Perfect. So white. And I wanted to give him an Indian first name and Jim was like, no.

You don't have an Indian first name. Why all of a sudden? I just wanted him to have an Indian first name, but he's super white, so it would have been weird. What name did you want to give him? Rajendra. Rajendra. I can't say it properly. It's my dad's middle name. Your dad should have had it as a first fucking name. True. Her father's first name is Derek. True. Right, and his middle name's Rajendra. And so she wanted to call our kid Rajendra. I went, all right, let's see. Rajendra.

Raj. Baby Raj would have been so gay. What did you go with? Charlie. Charlie.

Very white. Charlie what was his middle name? When you say Charlie, it's very charming. My last name, Dan Raj, my real last name, and then his real last name, Nugent. Yeah, because my real last name is Nugent. I use my middle name as a stage name. And so it got confusing. So I didn't know what to name my kids, whether to give them my real name, because none of the... My wife didn't take my name. I haven't got my name. All of us would have different names. So my children have my stage name. Is that arrogant? I think that's pretty arrogant. If I wasn't...

Well, I got famous from going on The Bachelor, and then so my last name got out. But if I knew I could have a stage name, I definitely wouldn't. I would have changed it for sure. Your last name wouldn't be Files? No, it wouldn't be Vile. Vile's a good name, though. You know, it's fine. You know, sometimes it's Vile, but like a lot of time when I'm like, that's so vile. And it's, you know, it's a triggering for me. So your kids didn't get Nugent. They got Jeffries. They got Jeffries, yeah. Honestly, no.

It's cool enough. Yeah. I feel like you're so famous that if they weren't Nugent, they would be like, your dad's not Jim Jefferies. Your last name's Nugent. They would be made fun of. But you're a liar. Okay. So my real name is Jeffrey James Nugent. And I changed it to Jeffrey James for about three gigs. And then I changed it to Jim Jefferies. And the first time I ever went on... Jeffrey with a G. The first time I ever went on stage, the guy went, welcome to the stage.

Godfrey Nugent. No, no, no. N-U-G-E-N-T. Godfrey Nugent. There's not even a D in my name. Like, where did you get Godfrey? Godfrey Nugent. And I thought, Godfrey Nugent's not a good stage name. It's not easy to say, Godfrey Nugent. Godfrey Nugent.

So you have a three-year-old son. We have a 15-month-old daughter. What has been your favorite age, like period? Because like our daughter's really getting into like, she's starting to like say words. She's walking. It's really fun. But like, have you had a favorite stage? I also have the 12-year-old. So I can tell you all the way up to 12 what the favorite stage is. I truly believe the best age with kids is three to five. And you can have a conversation with them. It doesn't matter if they're good at school yet.

It doesn't matter because those stresses come. Yeah. Right? Also, it doesn't matter how they're doing socially because at three, you decide they're friends. We're going over to the house and Patty will be there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you make the play dates with your friends and their kids, right? Or they go to preschool and they meet a couple of kids or whatever. So-

socially you don't have to worry about him education wise you don't have to worry about him they're still discovering things like our kid is going to disneyland for his fourth birthday and it's miles away he won't shut up about it right and that little bit of those little bits of magic

don't happen really after six right and also um and we all know you know like santa santa santa is the greatest thing in the world man and and my kids are really into santa and and i love it both of them well yeah yeah of course we all believe in santa man santa is important yes he is i just wondered if the because this has happened in my family we're like the older siblings

think it's cool to like ruin everything for the younger siblings. Oh no, our oldest is like so cute with three year old and like wants to keep that magic alive. He actually did Elf on the Shelf for him last year. Elf on the Shelf is real. What are you doing? What are you doing? Elf on the Shelf is very real. Yeah. I love it. Elf on the Shelf is the best newest thing to come out in the last 20 years, I reckon. What

What's your elf's name? He hasn't got a name. He's just delving the show. You haven't named him? No, he sneaks into the house. I don't name someone who breaks into my house. Oh my gosh. Charlie's supposed to name him. No, no. He hides in different places. And then it's like, where's...

Where did Bobby come today? All right, we'll call him a Zendra or whatever. Godfrey Nugent. Godfrey Nugent. How did you guys meet? Raya. Raya. I was like, let's think of something. We both looked at each other to live. We did look at each other.

because it's so uncool. No, she slid into my DMs and at first, I don't know what you used to say, but I was just, I had to be like, just tell people you slid into my DMs. It's fine. It's, you know, because you want to, it sounds so fucking, well, it's, it's nice. It's nice. You like, like you met each other, like,

You are obviously attracted to him, so you wrote to him. We went on a date and we actually just lived like 500 metres away from each other. I think she wouldn't have gone on more dates with me if I wasn't so accessible. Because you know LA traffic. You don't want to drive across town through shag, right? Because I was local, she was like, I'll give him another go. And actually, I was very impressed because she hardly drinks.

And I don't drink at all anymore. It's coming up to four and a half years now without a drink. And I just finished an episode of the Jim Jefferies show. It was on a Tuesday and I always, that was always my Friday, right? So I'd always get drunk after the show, do a podcast, get drunk. And then I went out with a few of the crew members. Now I had written to her and text and we'd organized the date and then she hadn't written to me forever. And I, like the old man that I am,

I always like to have a phone chat before the date. Oh, you like a little check-in? I like to see if you've got some banter, if you can chat. If it's all prepared texts that you've thought about, whether I can actually vibe with you. And then if I can't, I might cancel the date. You know what I mean? All of a sudden you're sick. Yeah, I'm busy or whatever. Actually, yeah.

Anyway, but her being a millennial. No, this is not true. This is not true. Okay, she's Generation X. Okay, stop. No, this is not true. He's going to say I ghosted his calls and didn't answer because. You didn't answer. No, where I lived in the hill. She had no service. The service. So a text came through. That's true. I didn't get phone calls through. You still get a missed call. You couldn't call me back. No, I really didn't. I really didn't. Did you try to FaceTime audio her?

I tried to ring her about four times. It rang out. She didn't answer. I assumed the date wasn't happening. I was like, okay. I know I've overplayed my hand here. I've rang too many times. Four times is kind of psychotic. But we were chatting and texting and stuff and nothing was happening. And then so I got drunk. I was out with all the guys from the show, right? A group of blokes, right? And she's like, hey, you still on for this date?

And I'm like, I've been calling you. I haven't been responding. So I assumed that the date wasn't happening. And then she's like, no, I've done my hair and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I've done my makeup. I've shaved my legs. I'm going. Yeah, I've done my makeup and I've shaved my legs, right? And I said, well, I'm drunk. I just said, I'm drunk, right? I'm drunk right now. I've been drinking since the middle of the day and I'm drunk, right? And then she went, all right, I'll take a couple of shots of tequila to catch up and I'll meet you. And we met at the den on Sunset.

Oh, wow. Right? Where I was drinking with people and I was like, all right. And then we had a little snog at the bar like 30 minutes into the date. So it all worked out pretty good. Is that a kiss? Yeah. Yeah, a little snog, yeah. You don't call it a snog? No. That's a British, Australia has a term for kissing. What is it? That's having a pash. Oh, love that. Yeah. We were having a pash. Pash. Obviously short for passionate.

Of course. You get pash rash. And you get pash rash from the beard. Oh, yeah. I even think I heard the term pash in Bluey recently. Wasn't there an episode? Maybe. Okay. Smoochie kiss, they say in Bluey. Yeah, I like smoocher. The last gig we all saw each other at was the Bob Saget benefit. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Bob Saga benefit. That was a cool gig, man. That was cool. Like John Mayer was playing. Yeah. And everyone like Jeff Ross, who I adore, was up there, and he spoke so tenderly of Bob, and Kelly Bob's ex was there. Yeah, I met her on Special Forces. That's how I met her. Oh, right. Yeah. Right, yeah, and she's lovely. Lovely. She's lovely. And it's like, you know, it's funny. I never met. I was friends with Bob for years. Bob had...

Even during COVID had come and opened my house a couple of times and I knew he had a wife. Um, and we had a dinner plan on the books when Bob died. And so that was like, we were having dinner in a couple of weeks with him and his wife when Bob died.

And so that was the first thing. We were meant to be having dinner and she didn't know. But I was like, we did. I can find the text. Yeah, it's in my calendar. Oh, that's sweet. But I miss Bob. Bob was a very sweet man, very kind, lovely man, funny as all balls. I mean, there's so...

My biggest takeaway from knowing a lot of people who knew him, I never got to... I met him once briefly, but just in passing. But I hope... I don't think I'll ever be in this case because I think plenty of people have negative things to say about me. But no one says anything bad about Bob. The only... Like...

You're like, oh, I can say one. No, he was always on. Sometimes that irritates people. He was always funny. And some people don't like that. I like that. I like people who are always funny. I mean, if you're actually funny, it's only annoying when you're not. I had a sitcom on FX years ago, and he was in the episode, and Kerry Fisher was in the episode. And I did a scene with Kerry Fisher and Bob Saget, which no one's going to do that again. No one. No one.

That's a big deal. I was going to do that again. Because we're Star Wars people. The whole, it was before the Me Too movement and you can check this episode out, but it was, it was from a story. I had a,

executive in the industry many years ago, slightly me too, like do the me too movement to me. Yeah. Sort of, I, I, I got, I got, I got passed on, not passed on. I got passed that she passed. She made a pass at me. That's what I'm going for. I've got to have, I've got to have talk. Anyway, she made a pass at me. And so I wrote an episode about this whole thing, but Kerry Fisher in this episode looks at me and says, will you lick my pussy? Right. And,

And she says it four or five times in the episode. And it's for me to get a TV deal, my character to get a TV deal. And I do it in the scene. I get under the table. And I was sitting under the table thinking to myself, when I was a kid. Princess Leia. Watching Princess Leia in that gold bikini. What I would have done for this moment. Look at you now.

And she was the coolest, funniest person. I was telling a story about, I was on Jimmy Kimmel and I told a story about my mother getting deep vein thrombosis, right? My mother got deep vein thrombosis on a luxury cruise, right? Where you're meant to get it on economy seat on a flight, right? So I go on Jimmy Kimmel and I say, my mother got it on a luxury cruise. Most people get it sitting in economy, right?

I'm on set. I get a phone call from my mother. You have to go back on the Jimmy Kimmel show and tell the American public that you're a liar.

And I'm like, what? She goes, I didn't get it on the cruise. I got diagnosed on the cruise. I actually got it at home. Okay. So my mom's yelling and screaming at me on the phone. I'm in hair and makeup and Carrie Fisher's sitting there, right? And I turn on the speakerphone so Carrie Fisher can hear. And then I hang up and then Carrie Fisher turns to me and goes, your mother and my mother are exactly the same person. And I'm like, I'll stop you right there, Carrie.

Your mother's Debbie Reynolds, who was singing in the rain. Yeah. Right? Who was a megastar. My mum's a morbidly obese woman in Sydney who's got deep vein thrombosis.

They're vastly different women. She's got DVT. But she was really, I've just started talking about myself. Let's go back to Jax. Wait, quickly. What is y'all's age gap? 13 and a half. We're 18. You're 18 years apart now. She doesn't look that much older than you, man. I know. We have 90s music in common. That's something we bond over.

what are you talking about? In the car, we listen to our 90s English music. No, that's the only music that we can listen to the same. That's the only music where we like are both fans. Yeah. Otherwise I turn on the, getting the Tesla and Sabrina Carpenter's on all the bloody time. We've gotten lucky in terms of like things we like that are on now. We, we both enjoy it. Like we watch the same shows and same stuff. And there's more that we have in common that we enjoy than don't. But yeah, there's just like, I always want to show her movies from the nineties or the eighties and I make her watch it. Oh, she's,

I got to show her Back to the Future. Have you ever seen Back to the Future? I'm sure it was on a list. That was one of my favorite movies of all time. It's the greatest movie that's ever been made. It's the greatest movie on earth. It's all one movie in the same scene. There's the one scene that's on in every movie. It's all one movie? In a way. In a way, yeah. It's fantastic. Oh, because it's all continuous. I'll tell you what. I bought a ticket to...

have a photo with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox at Comic-Con with my son. That's a good deal. And so we lined up. You had to line up forever. And all the nerds that were dressed like Marty McFly waiting to have the photo. Right now, so we're talking about a man in his 80s and a man who's very sick with Parkinson's, right? These are the two people. And so as you get closer to the line, they're like this, please don't touch them. Oh.

Please leave them alone. Because, you know, like if you give them COVID, they're both done. You know what I mean? Like just be chill. Just go in there like this. Keep your hands in your pockets. And my son was, and everyone else was like, in scene four, the thing, all very comic on you like that, right? And me and Hank walked in. And I went, Hank, don't touch him. Just be cool. Smile. Say thank you and hello. Right?

Right? And Hank comes and he goes, hello, and then stands off to the side like this. And then Michael J. Fox looks at him and he goes, and he actually put his arm around him and pulled him in. Oh, cool.

right and put him in and it's the one photo he's got his arm around my son and that was pretty cool and then we had a photo with like hayden christiansen and uh darth vader yeah darth vader right and um ewan mcgregor that was the other photo we did and i walked in and i tried to dress like myself as much as possible like i was wearing an outfit from a special because i wanted one of those two to recognize me right so that my son would be impressed yeah and

And I walked in and Hayden Christian went, Jim Jefferies. And then Ewan McGregor went, your dad's a legend. Made my fucking life. Cool. Made my life. That was the best day ever. That was the most proud my son has ever been of me. I loved it. That's pretty cool.

I wonder what rivers will be of us. I hope she never sees The Bachelor. Well, she's going to watch The Bachelor. Yeah, that'd be great. Look, man, at least The Bachelor is just you snogging different chicks, right? Sure. Right? Yeah. My stand-up is me talking about cocaine, right? And skeletons in my closet. Yeah, but you can be like, I'm a comic, and then she's going to be like, is it real? And I'm going to be like, yeah.

A lot of the specials I'm actually on cocaine as well. You're actually doing it on stage in front of everyone. Uh-huh.

So, yeah, I always worry about that. Like when my kids, my kids just had someone say to him recently, one of the kids at school went, your dad's not funny. You know, that type of thing. Oh. And then they're going to start watching the clips. Oh. And then there's jokes that I've made about my child. Oh. In the clips. Yeah. It's not easy being a comics family member. It's not easy. What like advice have you given him around that?

Like, don't listen to it. Don't. Or are you kind of like, who gives a fuck? I'm just like, man, roll with the punches. People are going to try to find your weak spot in life. That's just what's going to happen. If it's not this, it's going to be something else. Let them tease me. Better than teasing you. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't care. Like, what's the worst thing that you're going to get is like, oh, my dad was really handsome. He was the bachelor. Yeah.

Like, oh, that must really hurt to my core. My dad was the most desirable man in America for about three months. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Then he went on special forces and he was held underwater and survived. What a loser. I'd be more worried about the cowboy boots. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, well, that's a great place to end it, huh? Yeah. The Snake premieres tonight on Fox. You can check it out on Hulu if you're not one of those people who is watching in real time. But it's a great show. Check it out. Lots of fun. Hosted by yours truly, Jim Jefferies. We got the trailer of The Snake that we're going to play for the audience. Again, a reminder, it is out tonight on Fox at 9 o'clock. If you don't happen to catch it tonight, it does air on Hulu the next day. So check it out either on Fox or...

or on Hulu, here is the trailer of The Snake. This is social survival of the fittest. It's not something I take lightly. I deserve an Oscar for that performance.

The snake is the master class in watching people making friends and faking friends. I will pick you over anyone else. And there's a lot of bluffing in this game. Have I been told I could be manipulative? I am Italian and Puerto Rican, honey. You do the math. These contestants know how to get what they want and stereotypes of their jobs play into it. As a bounty hunter, you do have to be two steps ahead. I'm a pro poker player. I do this for a living. How do you think being an OnlyFans creator will help you in the game? You'll have to subscribe and find out. You got me.

Each week they will compete in challenges to become the snake the most powerful player in the game The snake will choose one player to say Derek setting up a chain reaction right until there are two left Leaving the snake with the ultimate decision. She could be a psychopath

Every act you do in the game has a consequence. Every single person in this entire house lied to me. You have to screw people over. It's just like life. I'm flirting. I'm using Devante. If you're not the snake next week... Watch your back. Boom. Someone will remember. Shut your mouth. Try to be kind. Try to backstab people. I feel pretty betrayed. Ah!

At the end of the day, it is a game. The games have definitely begun. Somebody's about to get bit. Friendships will be broken up. No one's telling me the truth. You can never underestimate anybody. I'm hooked. I'm in. Who doesn't want to be involved in that show? Wow. It looks great. How'd you prepare for that? Yeah.

You get some like a spray tan, maybe like a little. I was in Australia. I just, I just showed up. No script, no nothing straight in, straight in on the stage. But, um, oh, well now I can actually, now that I can see the trailer, I could have said so much more. Yeah. So it's a saving ceremony. So one person saves another person, saves another person, saves another person. So it isn't an actual full vote. Oh,

So other shows, you know what I mean? So it's snakes down the road. It's a very unique show in that respect. So the snake is a play out, like a snake. So like I save Nick, Nick can save. Tasey. Tasey can save me, but you've got to have a friend in the house. You've really got to have two friends. If you don't have two friends, no one's going to save you. Right? And so people can manipulate, like if you save Nick,

I'll let Taisy save you. A lot of alliance stuff. Sure, sure. You know what I mean? But, yeah, there was a lot of me just in the middle of a field throwing bugs on people. And that at the beginning when she says, I was shocked when I just watched it, when she went, I deserve an Oscar for that performance. I didn't know she wasn't crying. I just found that out then when I was watching the trailer. Yeah.

remember standing next to her going oh the poor girl's having a terrible time here i was comforting her you got them she got you too it was over i was like you'll be all right her name uh is uh katherine which is katherine if you say it with a new zealand accent katherine katherine katherine all right well it looks great check it out it's on tonight or on hulu tomorrow uh jim so much fun please

Please come back. I feel like I took over the bloody podcast and we didn't, we went and talked about what we went to talk about. We talked about the snake. All right. Yeah. I had a great time. You can have me on here whenever you want. I love being on this show. We love to have you on.

Tazeve, thanks for coming. Thank you for having me. Every time you come, and every time Jim comes, make sure you bring your lovely wife. Oh, I'd love to. Are you going to come back? Yeah, we didn't get to real talk about the valley and jacks and stuff. See, next time we'll have you on when it's real time, when we can dive deep on an episode. We'll definitely bring you back. Jim, thanks for coming, buddy. Thanks for having me, mate. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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