E956 - Love Island USA w/ Jalen and Victoria Fuller, RHOA, RHOM and Tom Sandoval on AGT
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap. I'm your host, Nick, and justice for Jeremiah. Jeremiah.

Jeremiah. Jeremiah? Is that the Wisconsin in me? I think so. Justice. Justice. Period. Justice for the most handsome man on the cast. The hottest. Let's not be modest. Did we really need to get rid of him right now? Absolutely not. We didn't. Did you realize that Casa Amor is tomorrow night? It starts tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah. They sent home the hottest guy. Ace is a...

It's all, Ace did it all. I agree. I 100% blame Ace. We'll break it down in just a second. But Victoria Fuller has returned to the Vofell. She is here. She is caught up on Love Island. She'll be talking with us. Steve is- Itching his nuts. Sitting next to her. How have you been? I've been so good. Thank you for asking. You've been on the go. Every time you post, you're busy. Really? You're doing something. Oh. You're on the town. You're at a party. You're at a festival. You're at this. You're at that. You're here. You're here.

You're there. You're up. You're down. Are you ever sitting at home? Always. Okay. Yes, of course. Actually, I haven't posted on social media in six days. You haven't? No. Is that like a deliberate mental health thing? I just don't have anything going on. You know? So it's easier to post. You're past the point of pretending that you have something going on on social media? Yes. Isn't that great? Yeah. I'm like, I literally am doing nothing. Remember when we used to like,

be like, all right, what am I going to... Yeah. You'd have to like make something up. What do I have to take a picture of today? Yeah. I'm like, oh. They say post every day. My food. Don't care. Your coffee. My coffee. Yeah. Don't care. It's like, at this point, it's like... I saw a headline. Hannah Ann's pregnant. Congrats, Hannah Ann. Yay! Hannah Ann. We love Hannah Ann. So exciting. Well,

Well, we have a great episode lined up for you today. Jam-packed. First of all, we were going to break down the past three episodes of Love Island, including the one where Megan Thee Stallion was a part of, and that was just kind of surreal. I haven't forgot about it. They got to grind on her. Like, I mean, Austin got to do this to Megan Thee Stallion. That was crazy. Just like spread eagle showing his crotch.

No, that was really crazy. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard. I know. It was definitely better than the milk challenge. We do have Jalen later this episode. Gone too soon, Jalen. He got a passport just to come to Fiji. For like three days. That's all he got his passport for. It was his first time out of the country. Anyways, we get to talk to Jalen later this episode. Also later this episode, we'll get into some Real Housewives of Miami, some Atlanta.

But now let's talk. Okay, perfect. Let's do it. Do we want to start at the, do we want to go backwards or forwards? You want to start with Megan Thee Stallion? It was honestly the thing that was going to bring America together. For sure. Everyone's working, Megan Thee Stallion. Like that was the only thing that was going to get us aligned. It was kind of shocking just how beautifully it,

It timed up because obviously that show moves so fast. They couldn't possibly have timed it or know that Jeremiah and Huda were going to break up or that Huda would have been like just kind of like put a hurricane making everything about her. And then finally bring in someone like Megan Thee Stallion to like no one give a fuck about anything else in that moment. And like, honestly, like saved the villa.

For like a split second. It really did. Everyone was like happy and... Alarja was like, oh my God, do you know my name? I loved that moment. It was so cute. I loved it. I honestly wish...

Megan would have kind of read Huda, but she was just like, you stand on business. You stand 10 toes down. And it was like, well. Yeah, she wasn't there for that. Yeah. Yeah, she didn't want to like. She was just being a girl. Yeah, she was being a girl's girl, which I can appreciate. But what she did kind of, she gave her the slightest bit of hard time. What did she say? No, she really didn't.

She's like, oh, your face when you got like mad or something. I don't know. Oh, no, she she gave her shit about the baby. The mama. Oh, no. Yes. She was like, my favorite moment was like, mama, mama, mama, mamacita. She was like, Nick, why did you say mamacita? I love that. No. Watching Austin and Taylor and Nick, honestly. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Twerk. Twerk.

It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I can't. And like the way that Austin was moving was something I don't think I'll ever forget. He looked like, I mean, he looked like a daddy long leg, like a little bit of like a grasshopper mix of the daddy long leg. It was awful. Yeah. But so good. It was really, really bad. It was really bad. Didn't Austin win his challenge? Yeah. Yeah. It was so bad he won. Oh my gosh. And then they built the new bombshells.

TJ and Adrena. Are you good at puzzles? Yeah, I am pretty good. How do you put your puzzle together? I do the colors first. I put all the colors together. Like before you start putting them together? Yeah, before I start doing them. You section them out. Yeah, I section them out first before I start. What do you do? I don't do a lot of puzzles, to be honest. He's like going through like a thousand pieces just looking for like the four corners. I don't remember the last time I've done a puzzle. We did one for Christmas a few years ago.

We started a puzzle. Yeah. We started a puzzle. And then it sat on our dining room table for two weeks. Forever. Yeah. It was like a 500 piece puzzle. 500. Something like that. Couldn't get it done. It was one of those days where Natalie was like, let's do something fun. And I was like, how about a puzzle? What was it of? We never completed. It was like a Christmas cottage. Oh, that's very cute. It was too much. It was. Okay.

Like it was so cute. It was like it was too much. It wasn't fun. It was too much. It was honestly. We tried to make it a competition, you know, like, yes, of course.

Speaking of love, I've been speaking of breakfast. This is just something I just want to share. Speaking of breakfast. Excites me. What is the thing in your life that just makes you so happy that you have to have maybe on a daily basis or just something that you really have figured out and you just absolutely love it? What is that for you? Mine's coffee mate, vanilla coffee creamer. That's not a special thing.

That's so special. Why is that not special? That's her most special thing. Why is that not special? Leave her alone. Why is that not special? He says it's not special. The cancer in it is special. The aspartame in it is special. The

The chunks in it are special. Yeah. What's your thing? Is it an everyday thing? I mean, you're, you're, I don't know if you want to hear my everyday. He really wants to tell you his. So if you can turn the fuck up, Victoria. Do you want to just go ahead and tell me yours? You don't have one? No, I do. What is it? It's, it's a nonfat Greek yogurt.

And I put protein powder in it. And then I add blueberries and walnut. Oh, my God. I don't fit in here. Coffee made. Freshly squeezed orange juice for me. Oh, every day.

every day from um well i used to get it at whole foods but you know sometimes i would go and they wouldn't have it and sometimes they would and just became like i it really ruined the unpredictable it was very unpredictable and i would sometimes go then then there was a gelson's that had it sometimes air one sometimes had it but there wasn't very good you know and so i

I have figured it out now because now we're remodeling the lake house and they certainly don't have a whole foods at the lake house. Right. And I, I, I need to have freshly squeezed orange juice every day. It like it, it's the thing that makes me the happiest. Okay. I absolutely have. Get them some right now, please. No, it's not you, not river, not the dogs. As far as eating food, as far as eating food. Yeah. So,

Now I've been trying to figure out Pressy Squeezed so I can have it at the lake house because I want to spend more time there. Did you get it? I got one of those. First, I got a ninja.

like a machine no you gotta go hand you gotta go he was like peeling all the oranges and like peeling all of like the little veiny skin such an ordeal and then you would put it in the machine and it would like it would mix with all the the white stuff i guess pulp not the pulp but like the the you'd peel the orange what's the i don't know what the fur on the orange did you did you ever strain it and

And like put it through like a... No, I did. You did? And like still not as good. Yeah. It was like a whole process. So then I got the handheld thing. Absolutely game changing. The orange juice is... Elite. Elite.

Okay. I have some in the fridge. I made a whole, I got a glass container. It makes me so happy. Do you do it every morning or are you asking Natalie to do it? Oh, no, no. I enjoy doing it. Oh, you do? Oh my God, yeah. I would probably do it wrong. Yeah. Oh my God, I would absolutely never ask her to do it. Yeah. It would be like, are you serious? Yeah.

This is fucked up. He'd be like, go drink your coffee, mate. Look at the color of this orange. This is not orange. I would never ask that of him. She could do it. She could. It's just, it's better for my mom. I tried to help him today. I was cutting the oranges in half for him. Yeah, it was. They're very sweet. That's a good moment. That was me giving like an acts of service. It's so much easier because again, you just have to slice it in half. Yes.

It's some, why does anyone ever use a machine? If listen, guys, you know what I've also discovered? What? Do you like shrimp cocktail? Love it. Oh yeah. You made us some. So yeah, I,

I've ruined restaurant shrimp cocktail. I used to always think that you can only go and get a good shrimp cocktail at a restaurant because before that, you'd have a dinner party or something, and then someone would bring a shrimp cocktail, and it'd be a bunch of shrimp that's sitting out forever, and it's just kind of soggy and little, and it's disgusting. And then you'd go to a restaurant, and then you'd bring out the shrimp cocktail. No. It's so easy to do.

You said that you boiled it, right? Yeah, it's real simple. You go to a nice grocery store, fresh market, Whole Foods, whatever, get the pre-peeled so they take the poop out. Yeah, I don't want that. And then so you just take the skin off, real simple. You boil some water. You put maybe, crush some garlic and onions, whatever, just boil water. When it's boiling, turn the water off. Put the shrimp in. Six minutes later, done. Turn the water off or turn the stove off?

And the stove off. And then the water will stop boiling? It's still really hot, but it's hot enough. Okay. And then you throw the shrimp in? Throw the shrimp in. Okay. Take the shrimp out. In the meantime, get a bowl of ice. Put the shrimp, rinse it out. Put it in some ice, ice water, cold freezing water. Then I take the water out and then I put the shrimp in the freezer. And you have to eat it right before it's like, not frozen yet, but like stiff. Yeah, like it has like a little. Yeah, just stiff.

And it's perfect. This is a process. Food network, everyone. No, it's so easy. If you didn't know where you were. It's so easy. In restaurant, shrimp cocktail will never be good enough for you anymore. Yeah. I like the bigger ones too. Anyways, also that reminded me about Iris. She seems like a really nice girl. Lovely, nice, chill, down to earth. Just definitely the opposite of Huda. Just really easy going. But she doesn't like dinner. She said that?

She said she doesn't like dinner. I honestly... When did she say that? Who did she say that to? She said, I don't like dinner. That was her statement. She was like, yeah, I don't really like dinner. I forgot who she said it to, but it was early in her arrival. What did she... Dinner is like... It's essential. I think it was to Charlie, maybe. It's like one of my favorite things. It's the best. Dinner? It's dinner. It's like an adulthood. What do you do for fun? What do you...

That's so true. Like when you go out at night. Let's get dinner. Yeah. Let's go to dinner. You don't go to clubs anymore or a party. Do you want to get dinner? You just like have a nice meal. Should we go to dinner? Do you want to come over for dinner? Dinner. Like what do you... Maybe that just shows us her age, I guess. How old is she? I'm guessing mid, early 20s. Okay. That probably makes sense. I guess I didn't like dinner at my early 20s. I always liked dinner. I love dinner. Who am I kidding? Dinner is so good. Dinner. I can't believe she...

That's weird. I honestly don't think I could date someone who was like, yeah, I don't eat dinner. Listen, there are interesting cats. You think they're like, you know, they're, they're,

you know, grown and cool and this and that. And then like CJ says he likes to build stuff and you're thinking that he like builds houses and then he says he likes to build Lego sets. What did you think of Hannah gone too soon? Also spit on that hand. Do you think she just, do you think they had sex or do you think she just, Oh my God, his hips were literally going back and forth. I mean, she's spitting on a hand. We assume had sex, Nick and Sierra. They've confirmed they've had sex. Yeah.

30 seconds, 26 seconds. First it was 26 seconds, then he added four more seconds. Yeah. Yeah. He was like 26 seconds. Yeah, that's crazy. He's like counting his head. But relationships have, everyone who's had sex is broken up. Oh, wow. Well, Hannah and Pepe was, you know. Not by choice. Well, they're still broken up. I'm just saying, either way. Sure. I also. Well, I'm sorry, Nick and Sierra are together, but like they. I'm a little surprised that they're.

doing that early on. Like, they had sex. Next day, Nick is absolutely not having TJ getting Sierra some tea.

He seems like he's like really feeling his hero. But he's like, I can't let a guy get you tea, but I definitely want to date other women. And I know I was like, I thought that was crazy, too. I was like, he's like, no, I honestly like I don't see anyone other than you. You're perfect. We're perfect. Like we're in the best couple. Like I don't like I picture you. You check all of my boxes. I picture on the outside, but I don't want to close off.

yeah like i'm definitely still not closed that's literally a pity of a man like they have everything they could have ever wanted they're like but i'm just gonna like keep looking like just in case yeah no no it's so true it's crazy like love is teaching you like men just like once they have sex like especially that early on they're just like they're just like i don't know i think i'm good there's something about having sex that actually makes men not like

No, I wonder if it would... I love that you're saying this right now, like as a man. If you're not in love, like if you're in a relationship, great. If you're like we are. Yeah, but like you... But like when you're dating...

Like there's kind of like a, I don't know. It's like a chemical that goes off your brain that says you hate her. Well, there's, it definitely is like this release for guys where I feel like they, have you heard that like guys fall in love through vasopressin? I'm not familiar with that one. So it's a hormone that gets released in guys when it's like a struggle or like hard to like get. And that's how they fall in love. And we women fall in love through oxytocin and that's what's released during sex. And it bonds you.

- And it bonds you. - Yeah, that's why you're all like love. - Exactly, but guys don't, it releases in them, but not as much as women. So they don't feel the love. They fall in love through like the struggles and like accomplishing goals together and like doing things like one-on-one with their partner. - Podcasting together. - Right, and that's how you fall in love, at least for guys. So I think it's like when that vasopressin hasn't like fully developed in them,

I do. That's a good point. But I also do wonder if Nick was like, I know the show. I've seen the show. I'm sure Casa Amor is like somewhere around the corner. I'm not going to like close off to you when I know I'm about to go like be around a bunch of bitches. Be around a bunch of beautiful women. He's like, I'm not going to set myself up like Aaron or... Oh, yeah. Yeah.

But it still is crazy that he had sex with her. Exactly. At this point, he's already basically leading her on. If he goes and hooks up with someone and costs them more, America's... He's still a dog. Exactly. No one's going to be like, oh, well, at least he told her. It's like, no, you fucking let her on then. Yeah. He still had sex with her. Exactly. Oh, Amaya and Austin, the whole... He's complaining about her.

austin boston and then he's like they were so cute for six seconds he's like it's too much she's hanging on me non-stop and she just won't let me go and she's calling me baby it is not no he's handling it way better than ace did but like yeah yeah she can't catch a break i know i kind of feel bad for her amaya papaya i love my amaya papaya she's she's just not like her her man is just

Her man has not showed up. Austin was never going to be her guy. He is not in the villa right now. Austin can't even take care of the white heads under his nose. He can't take care of her quite yet.

Ace was always... He's been scheming for Shelly since he showed up. Yeah, but he's weird. It's annoying because Ace is definitely the most emotionally intelligent person. Him and Shelly are so cute together. They really are. They're just honestly... She really likes him. They seem like they should get married. Yeah. They really... They have potential. Yeah. They seem like they're really a fit. But there is something about the fact that I just feel like... I don't think...

You know, there's all these rumors on the internet about like they, I don't think that. That they would. I don't know. They like met in person or something. I guess they met once, but like, I guess it's not, I don't, I don't like it much. Oh, okay. But either way, it just feels, I don't know, maybe it's him coming in with like a million followers or whatever. It just feels like he's too good at reality TV.

You know, it just I agree. I think he's influencing us on the show. Yeah, I think he comes off manipulative. I think he manipulative. I think it's kind of fucked that they did not show us the conversations of the elimination tonight. I wonder why, though. I think it'll probably be like they'll show it at some other time. A movie night?

Or on After Sun. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Movie night. Movie night. No, well, movie night's not the same. No, it would only piss off Pepe. Yeah. Movie night's more about the cat. Like, why'd they hide it from us, the audience? I don't know. Saving it for After Sun seems stupid. No, I don't think they're going to show it.

I don't think they're going to show it. It was obviously a big deal last year. It was huge. With that whole thing. Let's table Jeremiah for a second. Why do you think they sent home Hannah? Because I honestly thought it was going to be Iris. Because Iris, she wasn't kind of floating. She didn't really have a match. Hannah and Pepe seemed to be hitting it off. Hannah also seemed to be pretty close with the other women. Do you think they were trying to make Pepe available for Huda? No. I don't think that they were plotting. Why do you think the women sent her home?

I don't know. I honestly have no idea. I was just as shocked. I was shocked by that. I was just as shocked as Hannah was. Yeah. I was like, wait, what? Because she's in a couple. When Elandria was trying to comfort her. Yeah. It's like, bitch, I don't want to hear that right now. You know, like them being like, you're a sunflower. You're the light of in this in this villa. It's like, then why vote me off if you love me so much? If I'm your sister. It's crazy. It's like, this isn't the time.

Write me a letter. When they eliminated both Jeremiah and Hannah, it starts off the same. It's always like, we love all of you. You're all the same. Honestly, it's so hard. And then the last thing they both say is like, well, we just based our decision based basically because this person's a piece of shit. They didn't actually say that, but they're like, just like, you know, we took everything in consideration. And there's always like this kind of subtle jab about like they did it wrong or something. The way they move.

in the villa. The way they moved and it's like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I know. And like, poor Jeremiah knew like, as soon as Taylor started talking. Ace did it. Like, the fact that Ace didn't stand up and like, own his shit because that was 100% Ace. Ace 100% told Nick and Taylor what to do. Absolutely, he did. Ace is the ringleader.

I honestly don't really. I like him in the couple with Shelly, but I don't individually like him. I think he's kind of like.

I don't know. He thinks he's smarter than he is. Like, he's kind of like playing chess. I think he definitely has a hidden agenda, for sure. I agree. Of the ace is obsessed with Huda conspiracy theorist. Oh, he's obsessed with her. Or he was, at least. And that, do you think that's why he hates Jeremiah? I think from the very beginning, that was why. Because he thought that Huda, from the very beginning, he thought that Huda, during that, like, mass challenge or whatever, he thought that, like, Huda...

Was making out with him or something? Or did he make out with her? He went and made out with her. Yeah, he went and made out with her. And she was like, well, I didn't get up for anybody. And then he kind of made a weird thing with Jeremiah. He's like, huh. Well, that's because also Jeremiah, Ace is clearly the ringleader. Nick and Taylor follow him. And Jeremiah just kind of does his own thing. And he's clearly the best looking guy by a mile. And then Huda left. And then the bombshell comes in.

obviously is giving like Jeremiah the attention. It's just like, it comes from a place of jealousy and like, Ace is always talking shit about people. Always. It was crazy that the three of them, Ace, Nick, and Taylor were all talking shit about Jeremiah with Adrena like when they were kissing and like sitting on. They were all talking shit about him being like, damn, like the way he moves or in the way he like

Just talking about the way he's done this whole, and then for them to like vote him off the, you know, hours later. It's like, yeah. And they're saying like, oh, he came in here. They said that he came in there, like focused on Hoda and then wanted to get to the end with her.

So they were like making it sound like he was being manipulative. It's like Jeremiah is moving on. Like you all want him to move on. Exactly. The bombshell comes in. Oh, he was like, he's writing off everyone and saying like, oh, platonic this, platonic that. It's like the only person he's been with is Iris. She's been the only bombshell since Adrena. And there clearly wasn't a match. They didn't really vibe with each other. They were super chilling, nice about it. And like, I don't know.

I don't know. They did Jeremiah Dirty. Who would you have voted off? I really warmed up to Austin. Pepe? Probably Pepe. I wish they could have changed their answer. I don't know if they could have, but when they saw Hannah got voted off, I wish it could have been like...

I just think it's fucked that they didn't show us what they were saying. Why are they protecting the cast that way? I know, that's kind of strange. It is weird. I know you can't show us everything, but I want to see a little bit of how it was influenced. I agree. What were the talking points? I think that's why they... I don't know. I feel like they didn't want us to know. Who do you think they're protecting? Ace.

For sure. With the girls, I don't know, really, because I think they probably all agreed on Hannah. I don't know why. There must be something. Hannah was kind of a freak. Really? The way that she was doing that milk challenge? Oh, my gosh. Honestly, no. Wait, Nick was. When Nick swallowed it. Ew. And he looked at all of them. That challenge was absolutely disgusting. Could you imagine?

milk and then spitting it into someone's mouth. Milk is already like only good. It's only good when it's cold. Ice fucking cold. It has to be so cold. So cold and complimenting either cereal or a chocolate chip cookie just like as a cup. I've had a glass of milk as a drink since I was six. Yeah, I guess I haven't either. Maybe like chocolate milk.

When was the last time you had milk with dinner? Dinner. I can't stop. It honestly makes me sick to think about. With dinner? People do that too. I used to do it. We used to do it in my family every night. We would have a cup of milk. When I was a kid, yeah. Absolutely. And then like one day my family stopped. I was like a kid. They were like, this is stupid. I was like, okay. It seemed weird at the time. I was drinking sweet tea out of the nipple. Yeah. Yeah.

Arnold Palmer. No, there are families out there who sit down for dinner and everyone has a glass of milk. I know. I was one of them. That was a thing like in the 80s. In the 80s? I wasn't born in the 80s. It's still a thing. I was in the 90s. Period. Period. She's young. The fuck? Just a glass of milk. Just a glass of milk for dinner. And you're like chugging it. With a roast beef. Oh my God. I'm going to throw up. A bowl of spaghetti in a glass of milk. Yeah, spaghetti and milk. Ew. Ew.

Pork chops and milk. I only had monk at breakfast.

His bones. I only drank milk up until my sister who hated milk told me that it was cow's blood with no red blood cells. What? And I was like, oh my God, I could never touch this shit again. Why would your sister tell you that? I don't know. I think she just like didn't want milk in the house. And so she was like, if I convince my little sister that it's just blood. When we were kids, we used to have, when we would have macaroni and cheese, we would, we would imagine it being the most

Like I was a picky eater. Please don't make this gross for me. We would just like, just like, I'm eating. We would come up with like gross, disgusting things or like what we thought was fancy food because, but it was mac and cheese. You were like, I'm eating escargot. Oh, okay. Not like, I'm eating brains. No, we'd do that too. Okay. Yeah. He was creative. He was using his imagination. Well, is he a creative person?

He's a creative guy. Yeah. Well, my parents, they wouldn't buy toy guns. I'd use sticks. You're like, pow, pow. Yeah. Well, honey, that was, they probably didn't even make toy guns then. You know? So you weren't missing out. No one had a toy gun. I missed it by a couple years. A couple years. Only 10. Truly. Yeah.

Milk and spaghetti. Milk and spaghetti. I remember it fondly. Does that make you hungry? Yeah. I honestly would go for some milk and spaghetti right now. According to the internet, Nick did not have a cold sore. Where? On his face? There was a couple episodes. I don't know. He should have disclosed. He should have in his ITM, in his little interview, he should have been like,

I know y'all are watching me and I'm going to go ahead and let you know right now. I cut myself. Okay. It's just a little cut. And now it's a little inflamed and red because it's irritated. Just to let all you know, it's not a cult. Like he should have given us a PSA. Yeah. Are you shocked that hood is such a bad flirt? Like the moment she got single, like it was, it was hard to watch. It was tough. She's a hard watch in general.

I think, well, she said it herself. She was like, I'm used to men being like obsessed with me. And so like, if she has to work for it, I don't think she's good at it. You know, and she had to work for it with Pepe. She had to work for it with TJ. And they both were kind of like, uh, Heta goes from like guy looking at her across the bar to like planning a wedding. Yeah. That's how fast she moves. I know. I know.

It's interesting because I don't know. I've been a Huda. We've all had a moment or two of a Huda. What did she say? Oh, when she's sitting there talking to TJ. I have never spoken to anyone like that. When she's sitting there talking to TJ and he's like, by the way, like, I'm not.

interested in you like you know like at all and she's like oh don't worry like i'm not mad like i'm not gonna scream like fuck you or anything right and she really just did last man you've been screaming fuck you you're a bitch because you left and right every it's tough because like every she's just listen we've all had our heart broken and when your heart broken you make everything about you yeah but like every sentence out of huda's mouth starts with i or me like

Like, I'm always this. I'm never this. Like, I would never do that. I'm always like this. Like, it's just. It's a lot of me. It's all about her. Yeah, it is true. And she's always like, it's not always about me. Even when she's like telling you it's not about her, she's talking about her. She's just always describing herself. She felt very. Were you moved by her words with Jeremiah upon his exit? Or did you feel like she was just standing on her own?

I think she probably meant what she was saying to him because they had real moments. But I just think that was just like so toxic. So toxic. I do think that was a genuine response. I do. Like, oh, fuck. Now this guy's like, like he's gone and I can't even talk to him if I want to. Yeah. And so I'm sure like the tears and all that stuff was. And then he kissed her on the forehead. And I'm sure that made her feel like some type of way. You know, their interaction was sweet. Yeah. What do you think is going to happen with her?

Well, that's the thing. That's why I'm kind of confused by why producers didn't have more of a say in this voting. She seems kind of undateable. They're going into Casa Amor, and so it's like the only people that are going to get a reaction out of Casa Amor are the people who are solidified in couples and who are going to be pissed off that their man is doing something over there. So that's clearly Ace and Shelley, Nick and Ciara, Alandria and Taylor. No one else. It would have also been...

Hannah and Pepe it would have been Amaya and Austin and it would have been Iris and maybe TJ I guess they're like starting off their little thing but like that's why it doesn't really make sense as to why they would send home Hannah I know because she would have had a reaction to Pepe probably would

would do because they're they just started talking like they just started you know so he might have like folded and cost him more she would have had a big reaction maybe hannah's the one who would i hannah might have fucked someone maybe i don't know like

But I feel like they would have had like a reaction. And so it is like weird that they sent home somebody in a couple. Yeah. And like a strong couple. Yeah. But also, too, I think that they're playing chess in this and they probably know a little bit of what's going to go down. And like part of being there, obviously, is really good TV. She's great TV, but she does kind of feel almost undateable. And I'm not meaning that like as a.

But it seems like it does seem like up to a certain point, like they showed Iris, like Iris was doing like some kind of TikTok or whatever.

And she was like watching the first few episodes of Love Island packing to go to Fiji. Yeah, she was like trying on her outfits to go to Fiji. Yeah. And in the background was like, yeah, it was Shelly. So they don't like bring everyone all at the same time, you know. Right. It makes someone. Right, no, people watch this show before. But it seems like they watch and like they mentioned like when bombshells come in, they're like, they clearly are watching. Yes. So like if you're watching Huda do this shit with Jeremiah. It is going to be hard for her to start over. I agree.

I agree. Like what guy is going to be like, yeah, no, I'm. Yeah. Like I'm going in there for that. She'll be different with me. Yeah. You know? Yeah. People love a fixer. I mean, they love to be the fixer. They do love a project. Like I, I'm kind of, I kind of love a project. It's going to take a special guy. Yeah. It will take a special guy. And I think that maybe she could have her moment. I mean, that would be incredible if she finds love on this show. That would be amazing. They did show the five.

It's only five women that go into Casa and five men that come into... I definitely thought it was more than that. Maybe I'm thinking of Temptation Island where it's a shit ton of women. No, I think it's only five. It's only the equal number of people who were there? So wait, for the vote, four women were safe and four...

Three guys were saved? No, four guys. What four guys were saved? Nick, Ace. Taylor, Nick, and Ace. Hoda got the fourth, and then Jeremiah. Yeah, because there was more women than guys. Oh, yeah.

Interesting. Because I feel like Ace, I mean, they're all very popular, but I feel like Nick being matched with Ciara and Ace being matched with Shelly and Taylor being matched with Landria, I feel like the men benefited from the women's popularity. I feel like

People loved those women and they wanted the men that they were with. It's almost like they voted for the men and supported them. And then with Jeremiah was kind of on an island. I don't feel like America voted against Jeremiah. I feel like they kind of forgot to vote for him. Yeah. In a way. That makes me sad though. Cause I think he, he deserved a chance. I'm curious. I haven't been online since his exit, but I feel like there's gonna be a little bit of outrage. I agree. Give me the uproar. I need to know. He's beautiful. He'll be fine. I know. Well,

But he really seemed like a stand-up guy. He did. I mean, he never once clapped back at Huda, and he always kept his composure. Most guys would have been like... First headline I see is, Ace, I will never forgive you for this. What? About Jeremiah.

No, it was all Ace. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Jeremiah said that about Ace? No, no, no. That was just like a headline of someone's reaction to tonight. They said, Ace, I'll never forgive you for this. Okay, yeah. Because Nick even came up to Jeremiah and be like, you know, you're my best friends in this house. Mm-hmm.

So why'd you put off your best friend? Exactly. Well, first of all, we've seen Ace, like, in every conversation, like, share his opinion, talk shit, try to convince the other people listening about why his opinion's right. Yeah. He's always talking about how he doesn't like how people move. You know...

Fucking Ace was like outspoken. You know, he was just like talking about how like Jeremiah has been closed off the whole time. I think it's fucked up. I don't know. It's this game to me. It's this game, game, game. You know, he was talking to shit and Ace was not going to let it not be Jeremiah. You definitely was all about Jeremiah's smear campaign.

All right. Well, Victoria, thanks for stopping by. Of course. Thank you for having me. Great having you. Love you guys. Love you. All right. Up next, Jalen Brown joins the show and then following our interview with Jalen, the household will join us and we'll get their thoughts on the previous episodes of Love Island. We'll also share our thoughts about the Casa cast joining the show and give some predictions about what we think will happen. We'll also do a little household headlines, Real Housewives of Miami and Atlanta headlines.

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What's going on? What's going on? I'm glad to be here. Man, we're so excited to talk with you. First of all, it was really sad to see you go. I felt like you had a great few days in the villa. You were gone too soon. How are you feeling now that you're back in the States? You're settled in. How's your heart feeling? Are you kind of like comforted?

comfortable with how things played out? Are you excited about what seems to be your newfound internet popularity? Are you still kind of like having FOMO from being away from the villa? Man, this is like

you know, coming from a small town, this, this is, this is crazy, man. Um, I'll say I'm just overwhelmed. Um, I just feel like, like, like everywhere I go, like, it's just like, Oh, you Jalen from love. I'm Jalen from love. I'm like, yes, I am. You know what I'm saying? I had to take a picture here. I take a picture there. It just feels like, wow, I'm really like living. I don't know. Maybe like,

Feel like I'm on 2K, like a MyCareer thing. Like, I feel like I'm on top of the world, man, from the support I'm getting. And just like, it's like, wow. It's like a wow moment. Like, it feel like a dream almost. That's awesome, man. I think everyone's just super happy for you. You really obviously connect with the audience and clearly so many people were sad to see you go.

I was, you know, when you entered the villa, it really seemed like at the time Taylor and Alandria were just kind of more like friends. And when you came in being the country boy that you are and her constantly talking about how she likes a country man, and then she paired up with you, it really, I really thought that you guys were going to really take off from there. And from your perspective,

why do you feel like things didn't, you know, go the way we all kind of anticipated things to go with you and Alandria? Um, I feel like, um, Taylor had more time, you know, they started five, they had more time. I didn't have much time to work with, but you know, I'm coming in there just being myself and, um,

At the end of the day, I was just being myself, like, just, hey, I'm JB, you know, I'm from this place, that place. I thought we had something in common. But, you know, unfortunately, she had a better connection with Taylor. So I wish them wish them to the best. Yeah. That's all. Was there a point on your date where you kind of felt like, you know, I don't know, maybe it's we're just not connecting the way I hoped or like when did you kind of notice her kind of leaning back towards Taylor?

I thought we was doing good. I'm not gonna lie. I thought we was doing good, you know, but I guess, I guess not. I'll say probably, I don't know. I thought we was doing so good, but you know, she made the best man win. So she went with Taylor. I don't know. You're a gentleman, man. So when you, when you like unlock the door and like, that's so brutal, by the way, like, it's like, it feels like no one wants to open a door that's locked. There's something kind of like, yeah.

clumsy about it and they really set you up for failure that kind of sucked but like were you going when you went to open the door like what was your confidence level at that point did you feel like i don't know man or like was it like 50 50 in your mind it was like 50 50 in my mind i say um you know um me when i when i when i grabbed that door handle and i was like oh man i was like wow so i knew it was gonna be um taylor at the end of the day so i was kind of like okay i mean

It was either me or him at the end of the day. So I was, I mean, like, it was like, okay, she, she, she, um, she got a better connection with Taylor. Yeah. Before you showed up at love Island, you, uh, you're a trucker. Yes. Yes, I am. Hell yeah, man. That's great. Like, I feel like there's so many times, especially nowadays in 2025, uh,

It feels like a lot of the people who get casted on these shows are like already influencers. They're already like on social media. Like you're like doing real work. You know, it's a, it's a cool job. You don't, you know, you don't hear about like, you know, kind of trade jobs. So like credit to you, man. Like, but how did you get discovered and how did you end up, you know, being a trucker and end up on Love Island?

Oh, so I'm going to say a shout out to Neshea, one of the producers on Love Island. She found me on IG and we kind of went from there, man, because I was shocked. I thought it was a scam or some like some type of thing. So I didn't know it was for sure until I did some research on Neshea. I'm like, oh, shit, it might be might be real. You know what I'm saying? So Neshea found me on social media and I don't know how, but.

just went with it well the rest is history and so it's true that you you had to get a passport this is your first passport or you got your passport just to go to love island yeah i got my passport just to go to love i've never been outside the country never are you going to start using this passport now that you have one definitely definitely i gotta travel some more man it just feeds you open up my eyes you know it's more out there other than you know um farmland just um you know just land and um

trail rats all type of stuff you have all these brands like hotels are hitting you up in the comments you got I think Delta all these airlines so have any of them actually come through and offered you any cool exciting opportunities

Yeah, definitely. A lot of them. I say Delta offers some. We got the Hilton. A couple more offers some, too, like just free trips on this day, that day. And I want to say I want to thank them, man. Like, it's really a dream come true. I never would have thought that, hey, man, me coming off of two episodes, three episodes. Hey, Jalen, you're going to be famous after this. This big, you know what I'm saying? I had.

I think 48 hours, I had a million followers. So like, what the hell, man? Yeah, it was pretty funny. Like my producer, Leah told me that you got to 500,000 followers and you got like balloons to celebrate and take your audience. But by the time you posted, you're already at a million. That's what I'm saying. I got a cake, everything like 500K. Then I started reading the comments. I read some of them and they said, you're going to get you to a million. I'm like, no, y'all not. Y'all ain't give me to no million. I'll check my phone. I'm a couple, I think,

Some minutes later, I'm like, I'm at 800. Okay, I'm at 800. Okay, oh shit. I'm at 900. So I saw like, oh, I'm really, they really not playing. So shout out to them, man. Shout out to the supporters. They wasn't playing. That's awesome, man. You're at 1.5 million now. Yeah, I mean, y'all, like, I wasn't expecting this. I just made a TikTok. I never had a TikTok. We love it. I never had a TikTok. What are you going to make your TikTok page about? Oh,

Um, just traveling, um, um, fitness, um, just about my life, you know, just, you know, by me, really just me. Okay. Oh yeah. I'd love to ask you some questions about your castmates in the villa. You got to know them really well. Now that the season is really kind of taken off and right smack in the middle of it, there's obviously a lot of different opinions about the rest of your castmates. Have you been keeping up with the show since you left? Uh,

Um, not too much, but, um, I've just been trying to get, um, just see my family members, get back in touch with them, ask how they, um, what they saw me on TV, what did they think of it and stuff like that. Just getting their reaction or whatever. But I have been just a little bit, just a little bit. Okay. All right. What did your family think of you being on the show? Oh man, it was crazy. So my grandma and my mom, they was like, oh my gosh, you had on that leather suit, you kissing out on girls. What the hell are you? You know, you know what I'm saying? Like, wow. So it was just like a...

what the hell Jalen doing on TV kissing all these... You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how it was, man. It was like, mom, you know, I'm on TV. This is Love Island. This is what they do. You know what I'm saying? So, they was like, damn, I didn't know you do all that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it was like...

okay, Jalen, you know, like that. It was a reaction like that. Uh, were you surprised to hear, uh, that Jeremiah got sent home? Yeah. Yeah. I was surprised a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. Um, shout out to Jeremiah. Yeah. Shout out to Jeremiah. We, he seems like a really good dude. A lot of the fans reactions and kind of what we all thought was it really seemed like for whatever reason, like ACE seems to be kind of like the leader of the pack. He has a lot of opinions about a lot of people. Uh,

Uh, he kind of seems to talk shit about people behind people's back. And for whatever reason, he always seemed to kind of like have an issue with the way that Jeremiah was moving. And a lot of people are blaming ACE for ultimately the men's decision to send Jeremiah home. You were around these guys for a few days. Like, how did you see the dynamic of that group? Is ACE moving?

kind of the ringleader of, of like between Nick and Taylor, or is that maybe an inaccurate perspective that people are just like coming up with on their own? I think people just coming up with that on their own, you know, they just see more camera time, I guess on ACE. I mean, and they see ACE just, you know, being ACE, you know what I'm saying? So I just think people got their own opinions about things. But me personally, I feel like it wasn't on ringleader. It wasn't on pack leader. All the guys did what they wanted to do. And,

That's okay. Why do you feel like they came up with the decision to send Jeremiah home? If you had to guess, I don't know why they said Jeremiah. I don't know why they did that. I know I want to sit here at my home, but you got to make a decision at the end of the day, you know, but I'm trying to think I really can't.

Think of a reason why they sent Jeremiah home. Between Jeremiah, Austin, and Pepe, who do you think, if you were, like, who would have been your vote? I mean, again, they all seem like great guys, and that was, that's what's crazy about this show, is they make you pick somebody, even if you love all of them. Like, who do you think, just based off of, like, connections, and who would have been your vote? That's hard. I love all three of them guys, man. Man, I'm acting like I'm on the show again. I'm making a decision. This is crazy. If I had to pick,

I love you, Austin, bro. I love you, Austin. Okay. I thought maybe Austin would have gone too. Yeah. I love you, Austin, man. Like, bro, like, it's so hard. I can't pick between the three, but if I had to pick, I mean...

it'll have to be Austin. Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate your answer to the question. It's a tough question to answer. So thanks for playing the game. Not to rub salt on the wound, but were you pretty bummed to not get to meet Megan Thee Stallion? I was kind of like, wow. I mean, they would do it when I leave.

I was like, why are they going to do it when I leave? I mean, but it is what it is, man. You know, I might meet her, you know, out here. There you go. Who knows? Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe she'll slide in. You know what I'm saying? She might. She might. Kalani even tweeted about me, man. I was shocked by that. Have there been any other, like...

celebrities or famous people that like either comment on your page or that you've been able to interact with that kind of blown your mind? I say Kalani. She did a post about me. One and Coco. I forgot her name. Coco. She's a tennis player. Shout out to Coco. She said something under the under

on my Instagram Love Island picture. She said something, but shout out to her. But I know some other people said something too, but I forgot. Okay. The internet couldn't help but notice that you seem to follow all of your castmates but Huda. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen to me, y'all, y'all. Here we go, here we go, here we go. Y'all, it was, it was all, every, so the people who manage my page,

They still managing my page. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, well, they unfollowed. So they basically unfollowed all my friends, all that stuff. Follow, follow, I guess the people they liked on the show. Okay. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Everyone's got people managing their page. So that wasn't, that wasn't Jalen. That wasn't you. That was. No, that wasn't me. That was your people kind of being, being fans. Yeah. They even, they even unfollowed my family members. Okay. What? What?

Now you don't even know who you were following. That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm like, what? And people calling me, hey, JB, what happened, man? You just, you to Hollywood now? You don't follow me? I'm like,

You got to get back hold of that Instagram, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, Huda's created a lot of waves and people have a lot of mixed feelings about her. How was your time with Huda and what was your perspective on how she moved in the villa? It was kind of like a hey-bye-hi relationship. We had moves like, hey, we ain't got nothing against each other. You know what I'm saying? We just talk just a little bit or something probably about fitness or just about life. How you doing? I'm doing good. Okay, hope you have a good day. Bam.

That was me and Huda in the villa. That's about it. Who do you think is the strongest couple right now? I would say Nick and Ciara right now, but right now it ain't looking too good. So I'd say Ace and Shelly right now. Right now, Ace and Shelly. But if Nick and Ciara were what I saw when I was in the villa, Nick and Ciara would be the strongest. Yeah, I thought they were the strongest too until they seemed to hook up and then all of a sudden Nick was like,

Hey, I want to date other people. Who do you, what is there? Is there a couple or relationship? Do you think that's most at risk as we, we head into Casa more? Um, yeah. Who? Do you think that's how you were going to get away with answering? Oh my God. Oh my God. Y'all crazy. Y'all crazy. Um, I would say not gonna lie. Um,

Alandria and Taylor. I say their relationship at risk. Nick and Sierra at risk. Austin and Maya at risk.

So everyone. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. I don't feel like there's any really established couple that, I know a lot of people are blaming Ace, but I think Nick seemed to have the hots for, what was the bombshell's name that Jeremiah was connecting with? Andrina. Andrina.

Yeah. So like Nick was talking to Andrina and like Andrina was the one bombshell that Nick seemed to be interested in, in other than Sierra. And I feel like, I wonder if like also knowing that Casa more is around the corner, do you think Nick was like keeping his relationship very open because he wanted to be able to go into Casa more, you know, kind of single and available? Um, with that, I feel like Nick was, um, I feel like Nick and Sierra relationship, uh,

um it was strong like i said it was strong adrena um she's hot i'm not gonna lie um yeah yeah she she's nice i would have i would have said hey i would have wanted to get to know her wanted to get to get to know her too i'm ahead fumbling up my words but yes she's hot she's very i don't blame i don't kind of i mean why not just try you know just um see who she is you know i'm saying and

you know, she's a hot girl. So I understand where Nick was coming from with that. So if Alandria leaves the villa single, are you going to shoot your shot and ask for a second chance? She didn't open that door for me. Okay. So I'm not going to open my door. Okay. Respectful King. Okay. She didn't open her door. So I'm not going to open my door. I don't know.

I don't know. If you were brought back for Casa Amor, which of the women would you go for? I'm not going to lie. I'd go for Shelly. Shelly. Amaya. I'd go for Amaya. Okay. Shoot, why not? Ciara? Yeah. Exactly.

Why not? I go for those three. Are they, uh, do you think they're better looking in person or on, on camera? They look the same, um, on camera. They, um, so when I was watching it previously, um,

checking them out, I say, I want to do the same in person. And they look the same, fairly the same. What's next for you, Jalen? I guess more content creating. I want to make more TikToks. I want to get involved with my supporters more. That's what I want to do. And I want to...

travel more. So that's what's next for me. Get, get, get with my supporters more, travel more, and, um, yeah, and just make more content and just see where things go. Okay. Is this, did you make the sweatshirt that you're wearing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rubbery, rubbery. Is this your brand? There we go. I saw that. Where can people get that hoodie if they want to get it, Jalen? Oh,

So I got this made, but I can get some more. I got this made. Can you send some to us? Get that website going, Jalen. Get that website going. Sell that merch, bro. Yeah, I know. I got this made for me, man. So I got it made. I thought I was, you know, I'm a truck driver. I'm handsome. I look good. I take good care of myself. You know, a lot of truck drivers don't do that. And

And, you know, I just got a discipline that nobody has. So I just felt like I was a referee, man. A lot of people don't have the discipline I have or truckers don't have the body or the looks I have. So, hey, man, I'm a referee. All right. And are you going to keep on trucking or do you think influencing is going to take you away from that career? The way things going, if I keep getting millions and millions and millions of followers and stuff like that, I mean...

I got to go to content, right? I mean, it makes sense. I say, I want to make my supporters, like, I want to show my supporters my life, man, and I love them, you know what I'm saying? They love me so much, man. I'm like...

shoot why not like it's just insane like i didn't know that many people love me so i'm like i gotta show them love too because i'm like if you love me i love you respect me i respect you uh we love and we all love you jaylen what who would be your dream person to collaborate with like what is there a celebrity out there or influencer like who would be your absolutely dream to make content with y'all put me in a tough spot damn that's a hard question oh

You can say more than one. Three, three, three. I say I want to make content with Jeremiah. Okay. In the villa, I want to make content with Jeremiah. That would be number one. Somebody in the villa, you know, just have somebody that's number one in the villa. You know, just do that. Number two...

I would like to make content with, I'll say, I'd like to make content with, shoot, Anthony Edwards. Why not? You know him? The basketball player? Yeah, yeah, Anthony Edwards. Ant-Man. He's from Georgia, so I'd like to make some content with him. All right. Shout out to Anthony. Yeah, shout out to Anthony Edwards, Timberwolves, man, number five from Georgia. So shout out to him. I'd like to make content with him. Are you going to keep watching the season? Yeah, I'm kind of curious to see what's...

what's gonna happen yeah so i'm gonna um try to watch some more of it um since they kicked jeremiah i don't want to see what's gonna happen next and you know with the casa more so i know it's gonna cost some more gonna be crazy them boys gonna wild out the girls gonna wild out i feel you know so yeah i'm definitely gonna keep i'm definitely gonna keep in touch with that one last question uh jalen before we let you go do you think it's gonna be a man or a woman

who steps out of their relationship during Casa Amor? It's going to be both. Okay. It's going to be both. It's going to be ugly for both. So you're predicting just chaos and mess? Oh, I know it's going to be chaos and mess. Okay, hell yeah. All right, Jalen. That's a great way to put it.

Great place to leave it. Jalen, I can't thank you enough for taking the time. Congratulations on all this exciting success that you're having. It's really been a pleasure getting to know you and to see you on Love Island, man. Wishing you nothing but the best going forward.

excited to see what kind of content you make. And I know we're all excited to keep following you. So, uh, cheers to you and thank you for your time. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, Nick. Appreciate you. Um, you know, it was just having me on the podcast, man. It's my first podcast, um, I ever did. So, um, I wish I did good. You did great, man. We appreciate you. You crushed it. All right. Take care, man. All right.

What do we all think of Jalen? I think he's adorable. I'm in love with him. I literally follow favorite follow of the year. Well, now and Victoria and I, we all talked a little about the past few episodes, but do you guys have any things you want to get off your chest?

Yeah. I have one thing I'd like to say. Say it. I'm really upset with everybody in the villa. So are you with it? Is it all ace? I think it's ace. And I think that Nick and Taylor can't stand up to him. And I think that they all went with whatever he said. And he hasn't liked Jeremiah this entire time.

for, in my opinion, no reason at all. Jeremiah's just been trying to be in with them this whole time and he can't do anything right. Like he cuts himself off with Huda. That's not right. Even though Taylor did the same thing with Alandria and Nick did the same thing with Sierra and Ace did the same thing with Shelly if we're being real. Yep.

And then he cuts himself off from Huda, but he didn't do it properly. So then they're all upset with him for that. And now he finally has a connection with someone else and they're mad at him for locking in too quickly with her. Like, what is he...

What's a man to do? Yeah, I completely agree. Except that, do you think Nick is more outspoken than we realize? And just maybe it's just not being aired as much? I don't know. I was upset that they didn't really air that conversation to begin with because I would love to know. I understand how the guys got to Jeremiah because Taylor kind of explained based on what America saw, bullshit. No, but it was bullshit that they didn't show any of those conversations of how they came to those decisions. How did the girls get to Hannah?

Like, why did the girls choose Hannah? Like, Iris doesn't have a real connection. Like, she's going for TJ because he's kind of like... Same with Amaya. Amaya and... Like, Amaya... I love Amaya and I'm glad that she's staying because I think she's fun. But, like, her and Austin don't have a relationship. So, like, either one of them should... Like, Hannah has one of the strongest connections.

in the villa. And the only thing that I can think of as the reason why they would send her home is because Huda wants to go for Pepe. That's got to be it. But it's like, I thought they didn't fuck with Huda.

right and now it turns out that they do i'm it's just like kind of confusing and also like hannah got so fucked over by huda and then just to get sent home like she was just trying to be a good friend what i what i hate the most is huda being like i love you baby like we love you we love you and i i loved that hannah was just like no this is bullshit like i'm having a hard time talking to the people who just voted me out like yeah like you're gonna pretend to be all like buddy buddy like no you just voted me out of the villa for

for no reason because I have a connection. Like, it would be one thing if I didn't have a connection and I, okay, I understand, but like, what the fuck? Yeah.

I'm heated. I'm upset. I mean, do you think it's because Hannah was a bombshell and Hoda wasn't? But there's just like no real connections going on. Like, I'm not rooting for any of these couples. And I'm not saying that if Hannah stayed, I would have been rooting for her and Pepe. But at the same time, it's like, yeah, we're getting rid of the two people that actually have connections. And then it's just like, I'm not rooting for anybody else in this house. That's why I was like, Kasa. I'm like, Kasa's just going to be a mess because everybody's single. The only person I was rooting for was Ciara and Nick. And then Nick is just being like, well...

the day after they have sex, he's like, I want to be open. Like, of course that's going to fuck with her. But do we also think that like, we want to get Jeremiah out because all the guys want to get with, um, Adrian, Adrian, Adrian. I think that they wanted Jeremiah because Nick is feeling Andrina. And so is ace. And so like all of the guys are feeling her. Jeremiah is not a follower. He did his own thing. He's clearly like the best looking guy in the villa. And he clearly like basically got dibs. Like all the women came in. Um, um,

immediately interested in Jeremiah, whether they ended up like staying interested or not. Like I think all the guys noticed. And that's the thing. Jeremiah was able to like have this intense relationship with Huda and then find a quick connection. Like his ability to move on, I think was threatening to the other guys. And the fact that he like kind of did his own thing, whether it's Ace like leading the pact with like Taylor and Nick following, or it's just like the three of them all kind of just like

kind of talking shit and just kind of being their kind of this little clicky group that kind of like loves to like, you know, it's us three and everyone else type of thing and act like they're the, those three are like the alphas. I also feel like I said this to Victoria and Natalie, um,

I feel like Nick ace and Taylor being quote unquote saved. I feel like they owe their women a thank you because I feel like they got saved based off of being in the relationships with the most popular women in the villa. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like Jeremiah not being saved is a, is a reflection of like America not liking him. I think it was more like a forgotten vote. You know,

You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like there were no reasons for people to be like, let's save Jeremiah. Like Huda, for example, like as many people who like wanted to see her go. There are plenty of people out there who like there was a movement. Yeah, there was like a movement for Huda. Like, let's protect Huda, because knowing that Huda had a lot of like haters, there were a lot of people who responded to her haters.

where Jeremiah's more neutral. You know what I'm saying? And him being more neutral, like there weren't people going out there like trying to save Jeremiah and he got screwed over from it. Yeah, no. Shelly, Elandria, and Sierra are the closest thing to like the new PPG that we have of the season. And America loves the three of them. And so they're

Their men were saved. Yeah, my biggest beef of the season is with Taylor. You're with Alandria and you are not just like whatever you want. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the way... And I understand maybe he's a little reserved and like she's a little reserved and they're taking things slow. But at this point...

Once Megan Thee Stallion comes in and hypes up your girl like that, you need to know that you have to do the work. You have to put in the goddamn work to keep this woman. Because she is better than you. If Taylor gets with someone at CASA...

Like, he's the biggest idiot in the world. Yeah, Alandria is literally one of the most beautiful women that has ever graced this planet Earth. He will never date someone hotter. I mean, I don't think anyone will. No. No. Also, do we want to talk about the new Kasa cast? They're ugly. I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm not even going to repeat it. I said they're ugly, but I was joking and being mean. No, I mean, listen, pictures are kind of deceiving, but like... They're hotter than me, but...

The Casa women do not seem to be in the same league as the women that are currently in the villa. I'll just say that. Should we pull up a picture? Like, obviously everyone on the show is beautiful. And that's another thing too. Like to that point, Mary, I like one of the most outrageous things I find on the internet of many things on the internet. And it's kind of funny is the amount of like average women.

to ugly looking people judging hot people online. Yeah. It's the most hilarious thing. Like the way that the confidence of these like internet trolls talking about how these people are ugly when then you go on their page and you're like, you're, you're judging someone. That being said, it just seems like the women who are currently in the villa are just dynamite and they're bringing in people for Casa who just don't,

at least based off the pictures, don't appear to be in the same league. I mean, that does kind of reflect real life though. And of the most beautiful women you've ever seen in your life dating men and you're like, what? That guy? But...

Love Island is supposed to be an escape from all of that. Love Island is supposed to be an island of people that are so, so, so, so, so beautiful that they look like they were made in a lab. Only reason why I point that out, because I just... And that's why I asked Jalen. You know what I'd really love? Because you know how traditionally it's like in Casa, it's usually the guys stepping out of the relationship and usually the women are just sitting around wondering what their men are doing. That's usually how it goes. I would really love to see Sierra...

swerve or like or Shelly oh my god that would be amazing if Shelly like found a better connection or just a connection that made her like I want her I want it I want to see Ace rattled you know what I'm saying like the thing that bothers me about Ace so much is that he's like he's moving too confidently and he's moving like he's never worried about like it's just it seems like he knows he's not going home

you know, and there's, I want to see him rattled. I want to see him, you know, for all the hate that Huda is getting, like she just got emotionally invested too soon. You can criticize, you know, how she got there or whatever. But like when you're activated and you're emotionally triggered, like, you know, it's not easy to be at your best. So I want to see,

you know, some of these guys get rattled. I want to see them scared. I want them emotionally worried about like losing their women. And I want to see how they react. And it would be great to see some of these women like fall, have connections with some of these Casa guys. I mean, I, I agree. I think that that would be, I mean, I think that that ACE is way too comfortable. I think that him getting voted, like him being safe last night is only going to make him feel even more safe and more confident. And,

And I think that... I think he's going to run amok in Casa Amor. I think he's like, finally, I get off my leash. It's a whole group of whole new girls. And now I don't have to pretend or like, you know what I mean? I feel like he's going to get himself in trouble because of Casa Amor. He's giving the Love Island Napoleon. It really felt like, honestly, like last night's vote was like giving the first time Ayesha Ace lived up to his height. That's nice.

I've never heard that before. Yeah. He just like, he just, it just, it just reeked of jealousy. Yeah. And he also like has drooled over every new bombshell that's walked in and every bombshell, exactly as you said, has gone for Jeremiah. So like, who do we hate? Jeremiah. Well, I have a theory too, since the beginning that Ace was into Huda. I don't think he is anymore. I think that he was turned off by her, but I think initially he was into Huda and Jeremiah had her. You know what they always say? The opposite of love is not the hate.

I feel like he, you know, the, the anger or hostility that Ace showed towards Huda is like, he, he still seems invested in Huda, you

You know what I'm saying? He seems too invested in everyone but his own situation. He's so invested. You know those people at Casa who are so invested in everybody else's relationships and they're pushing the other guys to get with girls and go outside of their couples? That actually is my prediction for Ace at Casa. I actually think that he's going to stay loyal to Shelly and I think that he's going to be the one egging on all the other guys

Convincing them to to go outside of their couple. But then also at the same time, like put that energy into making like gassing Shelley up. Because again, another woman that is so, so, so, so, so, so beautiful. Funny how the dates stopped happening. These like pop up dates stop happening. The second he knows he has her. Yeah. But it's like while I'm trying to steal him from Austin or steal her from Austin. That's when I'm like, here's pop up yoga in the middle of the of

the villa but it's a surprise but like now it's like where are these days pancakes and ping pong yeah yeah oh the way i'd be so mad if somebody offered that to me not that would never happen can i sit down and eat eat thank you no i can't believe we have casa starting tonight i'm so excited which by the time they're listening to this episode will be an episode into casa

And how long does that... That usually lasts like a week. Let us know if we're wrong. They're in gossip for a week. I don't know how many episodes that equals, but at least four. Yeah. But I'm excited. But I'm honestly not like...

I'm not that invested in any of these couples enough to be rooting for any of them to stay loyal. I do think Nick and Ciara are cute, but I was bummed by the way Nick, after they had sex, the way he just kind of like... You know what's annoying is I think the cutest couple that actually looks like the best match outside of the villa is actually Ace and Shelly. There is a natural chemistry that they have. It's just that Shelly seems almost like kind of

Shelly's just almost too chill. She's like... She's on vacation. Yeah, she's just kind of like there, chilling. She seems wonderful, but they do, when they're together, there's like this...

this palpable chemistry that I feel like you feel. And then like Ace seems almost like too good at reality TV. You know, it just seems like he's, I'm not getting this authentic reaction. It just seems like he's working with producers too much. I don't know. And then like them not showing how they came to that decision just feels like they were protecting people in a way that I didn't want them to be protected. If you're going to make the cast vote specifically,

someone off and like get together and like not do like these independent, like just get behind people's back. I want to see those conversations. That was such a major storyline from last season. And the fact that they just didn't even give us any of that, not even 15 seconds, not even like a little bit of cliff notes about like how they came to that decision. None of that was just kind of annoying. Yeah. They even had like a whole movie night about that.

They also did it at the reunion, remember? And we were like, why are we spending 15 minutes on this footage we don't care about anymore? Yeah. That was wild. Yeah. And then we didn't get any of that. You know what's fascinating? Like all the couples who have had sex are either like on the rocks or broken up. Yeah. Mommy's little meatball. Hannah and Pepe, broken up. Huda, Jeremiah, broken up. And Nick and Sierra. Nick's like, I want to get ready for Casa. Yeah.

even though it was the best 25 seconds of my life but i'm also attracted to the new bombshell 25 seconds so him admitting right it was 25 seconds well you did say 30 seconds last night okay i thought she handled herself pretty well i mean she came out and she made it very clear where she was that she made it clear that she was like really excited where this was going and she's not really looking around and then she just got this bullshit answer response from nick like is she supposed to like

yell at them it was you know you it's natural for them to like no I thought she handled herself really well and then Nick was kind of just like well if she's gonna like act that way then I'm gonna I

And I was like, what do you mean? Act like mature? Like, what are you talking about? Like, so that turned me off. I really wanted him to, like, recognize her pulling away because of his actions and then try to get her back. But him pulling away further just shows me that he's not really into her and he's ready for Casa. They all are.

And I'll be watching. Yeah. Well, that'll wrap up our Love Island discussion. More to come this week, certainly as we enter into Casa. Let's get into a little bit of household headlines and then we'll talk some Miami and Atlanta and then send you on your way. Drop you off at school.

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All right. Finally, time for some household headlines. Then we'll get into a little Atlanta and Miami. Did you guys see Tom Sandoval's America's Got Talent performance? Yes. Yes, I did. He took some vocal lessons. Are you guys haters? Are you guys are you guys happy for Tom? I think he picked a very difficult song and he did a good job with it. I think that that man does not have stage fright. That's.

That's for sure. I mean, the overall takeaway, to be clear, especially on America's Got Talent, was like very positive. Like it was that classic Simon Cowell looking like, what the fuck am I watching for the first few seconds? It was giving like, oh, this is going to be an absolute disaster. But then there was like the flip.

where like you know the judges got involved the audience got involved it was like a very like uplifting positive performance like that was the takeaway from the show i'm just curious if like what you guys think specifically sierra being you know more like anti-tom zanderval i'm not anti-tom zanderval i just i'm not a fan but i'm like i think he did a good job

We realize that America's Got Talent is fake, right? The audience reactions don't actually happen when the talent are out. A lot of the judges' reactions are taped at different times. Oh, I didn't know that. If you've ever been to America's Got Talent taping, it's like the talent comes out, but the reactions of the audience will be on different days. They'll make you react in certain ways. It's all staged. My biggest question is, does Simon Cowell know about Tom Sandoval? Oh, they for sure do. He probably didn't care. Yeah, they...

They were like talking about it and whispering amongst themselves about it. Do you think he would give a shit one way or the other? No. Well, I just... No, I mean like do you think he was like briefed on it or do you think he like knew? Well, I think this all came together because of Howie Mandel. I think Howie Mandel has some kind of relationship with Tom. He was the first one to interview Tom post-Scandival. Like I think there's a bit of like Howie Mandel has a soft spot for Tom. Howie being one of the judges. So I think that...

Howie, I'm guessing Howie facilitated getting Tom on the show in the first place. So I don't know, maybe he gave, I don't know what Howie and Simon's relationship is, but maybe he gave him a little, you know. Fair enough. It is funny, just the comparison of Tom Sandoval on America's Got Talent and then Ariana Maddox hanging out with Megan Thee Stallion on Love Island. You know, it's just like a little funny juxtaposition. I mean,

I mean, yeah, they're... I mean, like, yeah, Ariana's crushing life. I just, like... This was a guy who did something terrible, certainly, but was something that, like, I don't know, 60% of the people dating do. And he was...

I mean, like his life was destroyed. Like he was literally the most hated man and talked about man for years. And like he's working hard and trying to make something of this experience. And he's going on like knowing that people want him to fail. And he still goes on out there and like, you know, does his best. I feel like he got like. You know how there's like an ego. Yeah.

Yes. There's a club where very few people have received an Emmy, a Grammy, et cetera, et cetera, Tony. Oh, yeah. I feel like there should be a competition similar where it's like, how many reality TV shows can you be on? The reality TV egos. Well, I don't think it counts if it's all under Bravo. Yeah.

But yeah, right. I mean, it's, you know, Tom's been on. No, she's America's Got Talent. He's been on House of Villains. He's been on Special Forces. He was on Mass. Nick is right, though. This is all in the under the NBC portfolio. So it's like, well, Special Forces is not. That's Fox. America's Got Talent is. And Mass Singer is Fox, too. So.

A little diversity. Castle Villains is E, right? Listen, again, Ariana is doing things well beyond what Tom Sandoval is doing, and she has...

But like, compared to some of the men on Bravo, at least Tom is trying to like, seems like, I don't know, last time we talked to him on the show, he's in individual and couples therapy. He seems like he's actually trying to make positive changes in his life. And he has coming from a situation where, I mean, like whether, whatever you think of him, it was really dark and he got so much fucking hate. He's come out of this and he's making, he's doing positive things. I don't know.

I think that I feel like I don't know why people have a hard time giving credit to that and why it's they still want to be haters. I mean, to his credit, and this is my own speculation, that a lot of these like competition shows have been paying talent to come on just to like

spark internet chatter so like to me i think he's just like he's not there to compete he's there to like sure it's definitely for people like he's still went on and performed knowing that people would want to make fun of him and he did well what's i'm saying so just i think he's fine with people making fun of him well i'm saying to his credit is that they may have paid him or at least wanted him to be there yeah but someone does i am very um curious to know though if he makes it

past the round because while i do think he did a good job i don't think that's the point of him being there i do think he did a good job i do not think that he did a good enough job to make it to the next round you know because america's got talent is like there are people coming on with the craziest talents i've ever seen in my life and so the people who are coming on and who are singing like better be really i feel like this is definitely a stunt cast for sure

And it got ratings and it got like people talking about the show. I mean, I've never seen America's Got Talent. So, yeah, first time I watched it. It's a fun watch. Yeah. Do you think it's more of a stunt than Selena Gomez and Hailey Bieber unfollowing each other on Instagram? I'm just I'm blown away about the level of like you can't convince me that either of these two people want to be happy. I don't think it's petty. It's so unnecessary. I think it was more petty to be following her.

Well, I don't know who started it, but like... She felt the need to have to keep that going. My understanding of this whole saga, which has been going on for years, is they both had rabid fan bases, specifically Selena Gomez's fan base is... You know, those music fan bases are another level of toxicity in online bowling. And it seemed like there was a following to be like, hey, let's not do this. And for... I don't know who started it. I don't know what's going on. But the fact that they unfollow each other just invites...

people online to do

outrageously horrible things. And like, why is it bothering either of them that they're following each other? I don't think it's bothering any of them. I think we're reading into it. Cause I mean, if even if we look at it, like when Haley signed her road deal to Sephora, who was liking the post, Selena Gomez. So I'm like, just because she unfollowed her and we don't know that. So why unfollow it? Like, it's just, I mean, it's not like a Taylor Swift situation where Taylor Swift follows nobody. There was a point where Taylor Swift was following people and then she decided to follow nobody and

And I know that she reached out to friends and was like, hey, FYI, I'm just unfollowing everyone. This is not a personal thing. But they're both following...

hundreds of people. I don't think we know she didn't reach out to people. I think that was a relationship that people pressured them to keep following each other when there was no relationship really to begin with. You know what I always wonder is the people who discover these things. Like, who's going on to Hailey Bieber's Instagram and being like, hey, I wonder if she's still following. Let me do that. What I'm saying is though, they both know that their fan base is

track every little thing they do and make a big deal about every little thing they do. So for them to play into it seems crazy to me. I don't know that it's playing into it or they're just like, let's just cut the ties now so we don't have to keep playing into it later. Yeah. Like why? Because,

Because before it was, oh, Selena follows Hailey. She didn't like this post or she accidentally liked this post. So it's like, why cut it now? Every once in a while, I'll be on my account where I'll be like, I don't know why I follow this person anymore. I don't know. I don't engage with them. It's just like there's an unfollow. But if there's people like that are in public figure, I don't go out of my way to unfollow people, even if I don't fuck with them. You know, like it's.

I just don't care. Especially when there's a mute button up that are available. It causes more of a conversation. It used to be like, oh, if you didn't want to see their content, you can just mute anyone. I think if I ever get famous, I'm just going to delete social media. Yeah. I just don't want to deal with that. I would rather no peace. I mean, I just see Selena Gomez and the way that she treats her like,

with social media and she treats it as if she's a normal person. Like she doesn't care about being the celebrity that has a social media. She's always like, don't send me tips. Don't follow me. Don't send me this. Like I'll deactivate if I want to. I won't post. I'll turn off my likes. She loves to deactivate for a day. Announce a deactivation for a day and then come back, which I think is really cool.

But she doesn't care about the PR of who she's following. She's never been that person. Did you guys see Teresa Giudice being interviewed and leaving the interview? I did, yes. So embarrassing for the news anchor. Nick, did you see this? I did, but you guys told me that her... Given that if this was a question about why she went to prison, I think it's a crazy question. She's already served her time. She's paid her dues. But isn't there speculation that she's once again not paying her taxes?

I mean, I don't think it's speculation. It's fact. It's fact. Well, I think it's like, well, no, it's Louie. So like there's the people she's associated with. There have been like liens or lawsuits filed and none of these have been concluded or anything. Well, I mean, she went to prison because she was married to someone not paying their taxes. And when you're married, you filed liens.

Joint, like it's you're kind of it's kind of one in the same, not a tax expert. So, you know, definitely could be wrong. But like if if it's her husband not paying her taxes, that's not much better than her not paying her taxes. Well, in March of this year, people reported that Teresa and Louie were each issued tax liens totaling three million, with Teresa owing three hundred and three thousand eight hundred and eighty nine dollars.

and Louis owing nearly $2.6 million. Louis also has an open case for $163,523 from December 2024.

I just think it's an out-of-pocket question. And something I've learned from you, Nick, is that you have to respect the guests while they're sitting on the couch. So when I'm like, when he ripped that question out of nowhere, I would have left too. It blows my mind why they still will put their talent on these quote-unquote news shows who will pretend they have to act like journalists and they have to ask the tough questions, so to speak.

It also felt like this guy had no idea who she was and he was just like reading a question that was there and he was like, wait, what did I know? He was laughing about it. He was like, oh, she didn't like that. She didn't like that question. It's like, that's not what she came on to talk about. I think Teresa, I respect it. I would have ended it too. And I think it's funny that she didn't know how to end it when she was there for two seconds. Hey, if her not paying her taxes made it so that the next gen cash could come and make pizza and hang out on a trampoline. Are we really that mad? Yeah.

I mean, I don't give a fuck, but I just think that's the one thing you shouldn't be doing is not paying your taxes because you're going to be caught. There's also just a way to say it. The way he phrased the question was just like... When she was like, what family? Well, that's the thing. It's just like when Bravo puts their talent on these types of local news, they all act like they're better people

than these reality TV stars. Like the local news, like people on local news act like they're like fucking rock stars. I mean, 20 years ago, they used to be somebody's. Now they're nobody's because no one watches local news anymore. But like they still have like the ego of like local legends. You're saying the news anchors? Yeah. I think there's something sweet about local news anchors. I agree with Nick actually though.

I mean, I'm not saying they're real, but there is a lot of like, Wichita, Kansas, Jack Johnson, you know, like there's a lot of like ego. It's so fun. There's like a camp aspect to it that like always makes me laugh. Yeah, but a lot of them are assholes and they're like the guy who,

Who like was cool in high school, who never left and like still thinks he's the rock star by going to the bars. Like that's the attitude a lot of like local news anchors bring to their community. Not all. I agree. And I think it's very funny.

Because what you're seeing in bigger news anchors is the same thing, but just even more inflated. So it's funny to see it on a smaller scale, but still inflated. And it just really... I also... I imagine that this didn't come from Bravo because they're not on air. And I feel like she probably just... One of her reps is like, oh, hop on this. Or she wanted to say something and then homeboy hit her with a question. All right. Well, let's start with Atlanta. I...

How do you... If you're still married, do you have to pay... I'm a little confused. That's my big takeaway or question from this episode of Atlanta. I don't... Okay. Certainly not a legal expert in the court of family court, but I do not understand how, if you're married, how you owe child support. Second follow-up question is, with all the stories out there that you hear about deadbeat, usually fathers, not paying child support, how...

Is Georgia state law that hardcore where they're actually throwing people in jail for not paying it? Because you hear a lot more stories about people just not paying what they owe. I was just kind of very confused by all that. I mean, I feel like they've been going through this legal process for like three years now. So I think that that's part of it. I think they are separated but not fully

fully divorced so maybe that's why he's a because they're them being separated maybe that's where the child support comes into it yeah well i mean they had the divorce hearing but it didn't get finalized and there had to be a continuance yeah and it says that she's they split in 2022 so can someone do a quick google search

Child support is typically determined using an income share approach where both parents' incomes are considered to calculate the support amount. The non-custodial parent who has less than 50% of the parenting time usually pays support to the custodial parent.

Georgia law also outlines procedures for reviewing and modifying child support orders as well as enforcing them through various legal means. And I'm also reading, so this is an article from last year when the original lawsuits were going on and basically it says that Kelly said despite his previous jail stint, her ex failed to pay his support for February, March, April, May, and June. In quotes, by his foregoing persistent and habitual refusal to abide and respect this court's order and other misconduct, Chavalo has persistently shown his

And then it does say criminal...

penalties failure to pay child support can lead to misdemeanor or felony charges especially if a parent is attempting to avoid payment or has a history of non-payment so they do take that very seriously in georgia the more you know i mean yeah i don't know

The Kelly versus Brit stuff was really what threw me for a loop. The episode in general, the back and forth there. I honestly forgot about the divorce. Pill pop and roommate. I was like, oh my. Michael Jackson special? Yeah, Phaedra. I think Phaedra may have one of my favorite lines ever, which is, the pill she offered me was just a little Advil PM. I didn't get the pro-fall Michael Jackson special. Phaedra and her one-liners. Thank you, Phaedra. Well then, and Brit just

takes the low road I'm sorry like her bringing up abortions that wasn't even a dig that was just like huh and they even said somebody did say to her like where it's just like and you want the support with the Kenya stuff and then it's like this is how you're behaving and it's like there's some things I think Cynthia said it there's some things that you do not need to to pull out of your arsenal in an argument and that was just disgusting she just she I forget who said it on Atlanta but it was like when someone when they go low she just goes lower yeah and

I was like, oh my God. You know? Yeah. This is a second event that you're like doing this. I actively gasped. Yes. And she's been your friend. She's been supporting you this entire time. Yeah. Only one to have your back defending you in rooms you're not in. And over glam. Over glam. Over glam. Like you kind of are trying to one up Kelly and that's why Kelly was like, never mind. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. The whole thing was wild. I mean, Cynthia said on Watch What Happens Live afterwards, and I think she said it best, which was just like, it's never a good idea to share glam. Yeah.

No. No. I don't think it ever ends well. Do not share glam if you're going on Housewives. Take it from us. And the whole Angela of it all. The guy that's like paid to show up at this event. By a random man. Oh my God. We need more. Your husband has got also like Charles Oakley. Charles Oakley. I love Charles. I love that man. The most oblivious man. He knew. He had to have known. He's just making his chicken and waffles, minding his own business. He's like, well, you walk around in the kitchen. Yeah. Okay.

No, he for sure knew what the person said. He was just like, I'm not paying a business. So what did he say? He's like, I own a restaurant. And if you want to know what your husband's been getting up to, then you should call me. And then he was just weird. He was just weird. Because then he went up to Angela was like, I want to have a word with you. And she's like, do I know you? And he's like, no. Well, then no. Cheers if your name is Angela and your husband is cheating on you. Like what? And then for Angela to be like,

her and Charles had people pay, had someone pay the guy a visit. When they asked him? She was like, it's not the mom. No, no, no. Are you a part of the mom? There are people who care about us deeply. No, no, no. She didn't pay the family. She just had these people that care about us and they went to go visit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's giving kisses the ring. You have to clarify. It's giving kisses the ring.

And the guy was paid by someone to confront her. That's what it was. Yes. So I want to know who this person is. I literally started Googling, but then got too locked in on the episode again. I was like NBA players that has beef with Charles Oakley. That's like, who could it be? Yeah. I mean, a lot of people had beef with Charles Oakley back in the day. Exactly. Michael Jordan literally wrote the foreword to his book, which I found out on Watch What Happens Live. And I'm like, who's coming after this guy?

Charles Oakley and Charles Barkley don't like each other. Was it Barkley? Was it? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just Googling. I was like, who hates Charles Oakley? And the AI is like, just so you know. I don't know. The owner of the Knicks hates Charles Oakley. Hey, it could have been the owner of the Knicks. Like, that's what I'm saying. And the amount that basketball is intertwined with housewives.

We don't know. I love Atlanta. I love Atlanta too. I love Atlanta. And like Drew being locked outside of the event and like sharing food with the security guard. Not even sharing. Like literally taking this man's lunch. She took his food. I was like, oh girl. She was 15 minutes late. I mean, Phaedra did say like, do not come late. But it's Drew. And also the shame walk when they walked in and she's like, for the late people, come in. Yeah. And the show is over. Yeah.

I tell Mary, you're either 10 minutes early or you're 30 minutes late. And Drew's 30 minutes late. Yeah. Drew. I do relate to Drew in that way. Drew's just happy we're not talking about her. Like, she was like, I'll be locked out. She was like, you know what? I would love to not be in this business. Yeah. Yeah. God. I'm so...

excited for the finale. Yeah. And for I mean it's so annoying that Britt's not at the reunion. How many more episodes are there? There's one more and then there's reunion but we don't know how many parts yet. Oh it's giving it three. It's gotta be three. Oh I want I like this season. But also I'm so mad that Britt's not gonna be like I mean You're mad that she's not gonna be there for what reason? To get

crucified by the cast? I mean, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I kind of wanted to see, I wanted to see them say what needed to be said about her. it's tough to have a whole season, not a whole season, but a big chunk of the season being about one person's mess and then have that person not show up. Like, kind of like, what's the point of a reunion? Yeah. Like, Kelly needs to come with some lines for Brit. And the Shamia Porsche of it all too. Because I'm like,

Britt just threw Shamia under the bus saying that she was showing text messages from Portia. But like, is that even true? Who knows? It's like you're just trying to destroy a friendship that like just got rebuilt. Also knowing what like Portia is going through in the moment. I will say Phaedra did handle that well when she's like, we're going to start the show. And everybody's like, well, what about Portia? And she's like, she's not going to be here. I'll handle it after. Yeah. Yeah. That was really. She's like, no drama. Yeah. We'll talk about it later. Segway into Miami. I was shocked to agree with Larsa. What? What?

- You gotta say more. - Explain. - If you are going to invoke your dying parent's name as a way to garner sympathy, then you probably should be by their side

You know what I'm saying? It's just kind of like, why aren't you with them? Like, why are you here? Like it kind of like, you know, I get there's a lot of people out there who don't have relationships with parents and, you know, they're not very close. But like, I don't know, like if you're going to bring it up, be like, well, my my dad's dying and you're supposed to treat me differently or give me sympathy as a result of a dying parent. Then like, shouldn't you be on their side? That was my thought. And then like Larsa said it out loud what I was thinking. I'm like, I agree with her son where I'm just kind of like, that's her personality.

business and if she has like a paid thing that she's going to like I'm like I don't know if that's the choice that she wants to make. She brought it up. Well because she was saying she was going through a lot and like she's sharing her life and was like listing off to Larsa like where she's at. I don't think she was using it as a like trump card. Yeah. That's how I saw it. She's just being vulnerable. I thought Larsa was more out of pocket for like

every time that she walked up, she was pulling out the selfie light and intentionally trying to like... Honestly, and I went back and I'm watching season one too, where I'm just kind of like, Larsa has been petty forever. And the Marisol, Alexia, and Larsa of it all, it's like Larsa can do no wrong. She's been attacking Lisa for the last two seasons over like not being a good enough friend or not being loyal, where I'm like,

thank God Fabulous wanted to know, but I'm like, even this conversation, like you're from New York. See, loyalty means a lot. Like where it's like, no matter what, it's like always going to find a way to make sure that everyone sides with her. And I'm like, she never wants to hear anybody out. She always does talk down to people. And it's just like, and expects everybody to like kneel at her feet because she was friends with the Kardashian. Like I just, I think she's so mean to her friends and people, nobody checks Larsa. I will say in Larsa's defense, when they were in the Sprinter van and Lisa, or not a Sprinter van, but the car and Lisa was like,

to her son be like sorry your mother's not being a good example I was like that's a little yeah we didn't have to go there but it's a little too much but that is a bit much yeah I agree but her son was like just leave me the fuck out of this literally well I'm just like Miami's going in on insinuating at least yeah insinuating intimating the AC intimating intimating there is AC being used and that Lisa's man Jody Jody is his name right Jody is partaking or not there but it

Yes. And I may agree.

Well, I love Lisa, but I was like the AC and they spoke out and said it was all just like. I'm just like, but are we also forgetting that like Lisa was married to Lenny, a successful plastic surgeon who was throwing like these Star Island parties? Like, and I'm like, are we and where are we pretending like we're not in Miami? Exactly. Well, the cut, the cut to them showing the picture of him at the event. I was gagged. I was like, wait, what are we talking about? First of all? No, we're going to make this the whole storyline for Lisa, which is unfortunate. Yeah.

Because I'm like, if he's supporting her. But then at the same time, that whole fashion show thing where it's like she's stuck in this weird conversation doing her job with Larsa. And then it's like for him to like text being like, I'm feeling left alone. So I just disappear like that to me. Giant red flag. I'm like, you're at her event. She's working. There's cameras here. Like, let's not pull this shit tonight. She also looked hot.

She did. I thought she killed it on the run. And then who was the guy that they were both talking to? Fabulous. Fabulous. And they both were like, he took my side. It's like, okay, nobody was listening to the conversation. I do love Miami. Like, just don't be disrespectful. And then like, we won't talk. We won't hang out with your ex. But nobody was hanging out with your ex. And I also think that that's kind of crazy where it's like, even Fabulous agreed that I'm like, the boyfriend might be hanging out with your ex-boyfriend, but like, leave him alone.

Lisa's make it made it a point to not so I'm like she can't control what he does and for her to be like yeah well if you put his dick in your mouth you should be controlling him and I'm like Larsa nobody's saying that there's multiple people in the room using AC from what we've seen mm-hmm it's Miami it's Miami

That's literally the town that Scarface was in. The cartels. Like, what are we talking about here? The yacht part. 1970s. It was like the coke drop spot. It's the foundation of the city. That's why I don't go. It is the culture. It is the culture of the city. That's why I'm scared of Miami. Okay. I want to go to Miami. There's too many people. You don't need to be scared. Miami's a beautiful place.

It is very difficult to tell people's ages on Miami. Because they're all hot. Oh, sure. Alexia is so hot. Alexia is so hot. Every time I see her, I'm like, oh, she's so hot. Oh my God, Alexia and Todd.

The way that she thinks that leasing is fake owning is so funny. Is that what it was? Because her last husband was super successful, super rich, so it's like always buying her cars, but they owned everything. Todd's also rich, right? Well, I mean, in a way, leasing is fake owning. It is, but it's funny how she... She said renting. She said fake renting. You rent your car, you rent your apartment. I was like, huh. Well, that's what leasing is. And he's in legal trouble. It's a long-term rental.

The point being is that for her, she kept calling it this like fake thing because she's so used to everything being owned. Did she say leasing or did she say renting? But it's like instead of just calling it leasing or renting, she's like, you fake owning, fake owned car, fake bought. She said rent. I think she was saying renting because in my head I was like, oh, she's saying renting. Either way, it's just another name for the same thing. Yeah. Leasing and renting are the same, no? And fake owning, I guess, you know, in a way. Was it Alexia that was like, narc is a narcissist? Oh, yes. Okay, wait, Nick, define narc. Well,

Well, I would say it's someone who like tattletales, like goes behind your back, you know? Right. Yeah. It's not a narcissist. And she goes, a narc, a narc. And then it's a narcissist. And I was like, that's the way people on reality TV accuse other people of being narcissists is hilarious. Yeah.

well that's the beauty of the show the best is that she has this dinner for her friend and she's like these two did not get an invite because i don't want anybody making this about them this is all about johnny or whoever and then it was all about alexia yeah i loved it though i could i could watch hours of alexia i love that julia was there yeah i know i love julia i'm everywhere i'm so julia what's

was Gertie at that dinner no Gertie wasn't invited because of the drama yeah that's true and she's got the issue and the Gertie Julia I'm a little just like I feel like we're kind of forcing a storyline here you know I did think about that because they've always been really good friends and like hearing what they say happened I'm like is it that big of a deal which maybe it was but I almost kind of feel like where it's nobody has a right to be upset about this because it's a adoption announcement right it's just also Gertie was also going through a lot so I'm like

Is it a tip for Tata? Is it just like, let's just secure another season for each other to like,

And it's giving. But I'm also confused as to why Julia wouldn't just call Gertie after the call and be like, hey, I'm adopting kids. To me, that's a weird way to go about it. You'll find out when it comes out and then being mad that she just said congrats, but it's like, I thought we were closer than that. And she doesn't know what she's saying congrats to. For me to find out that you adopted babies finally and got what you wanted and then it's like, I'm not sharing in a part of that because I couldn't get into a Zoom link is kind of weird. I literally had this thought where I was like, is this planned? Yeah. Who is your guys' favorite on Miami? Oh,

Marisol. It is Marisol. Marisol feels like the voice of Rean. Kiki though. Kiki E. I've always loved Kiki's one-liners. Kiki's really great. Kiki is the one-liners, but Marisol is just consistently saying what we're all thinking. Just because it's good for the whole doesn't mean it's good for the soul. Marisol.

Nick needs to watch Ultimate Girls Trip season three. Because Marisol and Alexia, they ate. Oh my God, her and her like screwdrivers. How many Ultimate Girls Trips are there? Three seasons. Technically four because Legacy ended up being one. Oh yeah, Justin, you're so obsessed with that. He said, don't discredit my favorite. I love Ultimate Girls Trip. No, but there's one season in Morocco. I saw this theory. So the Morocco season didn't happen. If you've noticed, all these women are being sprinkled back into their franchises.

So there's a theory that they were like, we didn't, we're not airing the season. So we have to like owe them something. Okay. So everybody but Alex, who's now living in Australia from Roni has like, and Eva technically has been put back on their franchise.

as like appearances. Does it make sense? Like Phaedra's back, Vicky's back, and Brandy, I guess, because she's not coming back. Justin sold Thailand to me as like a continuation of Salt Lake City when I was going on my Salt Lake City journey. And it is, but it also like really just opens you up to a whole new world. Well, and everybody that's like, what housewife should I watch? I'm like, just watch season three and decide from there who you like. Yeah, because what? You get Portia. You get Candace calling Giselle green. Giselle. Yeah. Yeah.

Whitney stealing the bottle. She didn't talk. That's what I'm saying, though. But everybody's being sprinkled back in. So someone pointed that Gretchen's back. So it's like interesting. Good theory. They did just release the trailer for the Mormon Wives reunion. They did. Like literally 30 minutes ago. Do you want to see it? I do. Someone say breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news.

I didn't know where you were going with that. It worked. The Mormon wise trailer has dropped. And Mikayla's in the first two seconds. Oh, are you guys in an LDS church? I wish. Yeah, where are you guys? It's stunning, these chandeliers. According to all the women, apparently it's like a part of the church where most people aren't supposed to know what it looks like or something. Oh my God. They didn't do like a dress code or anything, right?

Like, there's no, like, dress. I mean, they're wearing the same color palettes. Are they? No. I feel like not. No, I don't. I mean. It doesn't look like there is. Didn't you have a dress code, Nick? Yeah, I had to change. Why? It was a color palette. Because my stylist picked out, like, well, he gave me, like, some selects, and then I picked out this kind of, like, sage green suit. It was really cool, but, like, it was, like, too light tone for the set. They wanted me to wear something darker, so. Oh.

Reunion 101 is there's a color palette usually. Yeah, but this doesn't look like there's a color palette. It does look. Besides what's her name? He's in blue. Everybody but Miranda. But they're all the same like... And Miranda's in pink. Otherwise, they're all... These are spring colors though, you know? I'm just saying Whitney, she sticks out like a sore thumb if there was a color code. I do not believe there was a coordinated color theme. Yeah. Guys, my sister is moving to Utah and I've never been...

More excited. She told me the other day and she said it as if it was going to be like this jaw-dropping news. What part of Utah? No clue, but I was like, is it near Park City? And she said, no, I don't know. But I was like, Utah's enough for me. We're going to Swig, baby. I need to go to Swig.

nick it looks really good i'm really excited to watch it yay congrats i think it's gonna be great yeah i mean you know yeah you were there you famously were is it one like whole reunion or is there multiple parts it's just one lengthy reunion yay did you hand anybody tissues yeah did anyone cry have you seen definitely tears it looks like i don't think i was in a position to hand anyone tissues

Black eyes? Storming out? Oh, yeah. Did anyone storm off? Cannot say. Cannot say. Cannot wait. It looks so good, though. I think the audience will laugh, and I think the audience will cry. That's beautiful. I love doing both of those things.

There will be receipts. There will be people exposed. There will be... My jaw is on the floor. That's for sure. I'm so excited. They included that little clip of Demi walking in a denim suit. Is that to lead us? Like I said, in a way, Demi is a part of the reunion. Very much so. Cannot wait. Wow. I can't wait to find out what that means. And I want to see the receipts. The proof.

The timelines, the screenshots. It's all there. Join us July 1st on Hulu. It's going to be wild. All right. Well, thank you guys for listening. Thank you to our guests, Victoria Fuller and Jalen Brown. We will see you tomorrow for a very important episode of Going Deeper. I hope you join us tomorrow. We'll see you then. Bye-bye.

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