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Verdict with Ted Cruz

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Clay Travis: 我认为我们应该彻底摧毁伊朗拥有核武器的能力。如果需要动用我们的掩体炸弹来做到这一点,我认为我们应该这么做。其次,我认为阿亚图拉必须下台。我知道这些观点可能存在争议,有些人可能不同意。但我认为,如果我们允许伊朗拥有核武器,世界将不会更安全。我们已经有一个疯狂的人,金正恩,拥有核武器。我不认为允许伊朗这个国家由宗教狂热分子领导,拥有核武器是一个好主意。 我认为,如果我们现在不采取行动,情况会变得更糟。这就像用抗生素治疗感染,然后停止治疗一样。伊朗现在正处于阿亚图拉失去对国家的控制,以及永远无法拥有核武器的边缘。我认为我们有能力确保这一点。如果我们现在不这样做,我认为,如果我们不彻底消灭伊朗,我们将在未来几年面临同样的情况。 我不相信美国应该派兵进入伊朗,试图挑选未来的领导人。我认为,特朗普应该彻底消除伊朗的核能力,并且应该默许以色列除掉那些专制的阿亚图拉。美国优先并不意味着美国孤立。我们需要在伊朗问题上做出理性的决定,以确保我们的安全。 Ted Cruz: 我认为我们应该坚定地与以色列站在一起。我认为伊朗获得核武器是当今美国面临的最严重的国家安全威胁。我认为以色列果断地采取行动,以消除伊朗发展核武器的能力,对美国来说是极其有利的。这使我们更安全,因为我认为如果阿亚图拉获得核武器,阿亚图拉使用这种武器并可能杀死数百万美国人或以色列人的风险是不可接受的高,而我们不应该允许这种风险。 我不相信在任何情况下我们都应该看到美国军队出现在地面上。我认为以色列有能力做到这一点。唯一的例外是你问到的掩体炸弹的问题,特别是以色列现在相当有效地摧毁了大部分核设施。一个主要的例外是一个名为福尔多的设施,福尔多建在山脚下。它被故意建造得很难轰炸,而以色列缺乏技术能力。他们没有足够大的掩体炸弹来轰炸和击中福尔多,而美国有。因此,我认为有一个严重的论点。我一直认为美国应该愿意提供这些掩体炸弹,因为福尔多是为了帮助伊朗获得核武器而设计的。 至于政权更迭的问题,在我看来,如果阿亚图拉不再掌权,世界将会更好。我认为阿亚图拉是一个神权狂热分子。他称以色列为“小撒旦”,称美国为“大撒旦”。毫无疑问,如果阿亚图拉不再掌权,伊朗、以色列和美国都会更好。我不认为这意味着我们应该入侵伊朗并试图推翻阿亚图拉,但我认为我们应该利用我们拥有的所有工具,特别是经济制裁和压力。事实上,这场旨在阻止核计划的军事行动,我认为也在削弱该政权。因此,如果阿亚图拉或该政权垮台,我们当然应该欢呼。但是,无论它是否发生,以色列袭击的目标都不是政权更迭,而是阻止伊朗获得核武器。 Rand Paul: 我认为,如果我们直接参与战争,这是一个坏主意。我认为,谈判的可能性几乎随着第一枚美国炸弹的投下而消失殆尽。即使现在,我们与以色列的关系如此密切,以至于这几乎被描绘成一项联合行动。但我认为,如果我们真的积极参与轰炸,那将是更糟糕的一步。我们国家还有另一件事,那就是我们的宪法,它规定你不能在未经许可的情况下与其他国家开战。因此,如果他真的决定了,并且告诉我他绝对做出了决定,我会建议他必须来到国会,向我们请求许可,我们将在当晚对是否与他们开战进行投票。 我不认为我们擅长建设国家,我认为这也不是我们应该做的事情。我不认为我们应该参与其中。我希望他们的人民过得好。我很想看到他们的人民摆脱他们的政府。没有人希望看到他们的人民受到压迫。但是,我们的工作实际上并不是向各地派遣军队,派遣我们的士兵和军队。 我不认为大幅度提高债务上限是一个好主意。我认为,如果我们有四票反对他们,我们早就把债务上限分开了,我现在就会投赞成票。 Brendan Carr: 我认为,如果你退一步,看看这个国家的演讲者,你会发现,在电视台上,那些持有执照的电视台,根据联邦法律,他们被要求在公共领域运作。多年来,我认为华盛顿的联邦通信委员会和监管机构已经完全放弃了执行这项公共利益义务。我不认为我们因此而变得更好。如果你退一步,看看他们的报道,我认为全国性的节目制作人,如果你看看美国广播公司、哥伦比亚广播公司和全国广播公司,他们并没有做到公平。坦率地说,这不仅仅是我的观点。如果你看看对这些全国性节目制作人的信任,你会发现信任度已经降到了历史最低点。好消息是,如果你看看地方广播电视台,那些真正持有联邦通信委员会执照的电视台,当他们播放节目时,当地社区实际上非常信任他们。所以,我们现在在联邦通信委员会面临的最大问题是,我们如何赋予地方广播公司权力,让他们服务于公共利益,并让他们与那些实际上只是在好莱坞和纽约制作内容,然后强行将其传播出去的全国性节目制作人保持一定的距离。我认为联邦通信委员会实际上可以做很多事情来解决这个问题。再次强调,要关注电视电台所具有的独特的公共利益义务。 Listeners: 听众们对最佳行动方案持有不同的意见,一些人告诫不要升级冲突,另一些人则呼应了克莱对果断军事支持的呼吁,以防止伊朗成为核大国。

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Clay Travis discusses the decision facing President Trump on whether the US should support Israel in eliminating Iran's nuclear capabilities. He argues for decisive action to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, drawing an analogy to treating an infection with antibiotics. The discussion includes the potential for US involvement in regime change in Iran and the removal of the Ayatollah.
  • US has complete control of Iranian airspace
  • Iran has buried nuclear materials deep underground
  • Need for bunker-busting bombs
  • Debate on removing the Ayatollah
  • Antibiotic analogy for decisive action

Shownotes Transcript

Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton!  If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.

 

Here’s a sample episode recapping four Tuesday takeaways. Give the guys a listen and then follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

 

Trump's Big Decision

 

President Donald Trump faces a pivotal decision regarding Iran’s nuclear capabilities. Broadcasting solo from Washington, D.C., Clay Travis unpacks breaking developments in the Middle East, emphasizing the United States’ strategic position and military superiority. The hour centers on whether the U.S. should provide Israel with advanced “bunker-busting bombs” to eliminate Iran’s deeply buried nuclear facilities—specifically the fortified Fordo site—and whether the U.S. should support or tacitly approve Israel’s potential move to remove Iran’s Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah.

 

Clay highlights President Trump’s recent statement asserting “complete and total control of the skies over Iran,” signaling deep U.S.-Israeli coordination. The show features analysis of satellite imagery and intelligence reports, underscoring the technical challenges of neutralizing Iran’s nuclear infrastructure without U.S. assistance. Clay argues that Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons is a rational strategy for regime survival, likening the situation to North Korea’s nuclear deterrent. He uses a compelling “antibiotic” analogy to stress the urgency of acting decisively now to prevent a more dangerous future.

 

The hour also includes a robust discussion of the geopolitical implications of regime change in Iran, with Clay advocating for the removal of the Ayatollahs, citing their authoritarian rule and destabilizing influence across the Middle East. He draws a sharp contrast between past U.S. interventions, like the Iraq War, and the current situation, emphasizing that this is not about nation-building but about eliminating a clear and present nuclear threat.

 

TX Senator Ted Cruz

 

Texas Senator Ted Cruz joins the program to offer his perspective, strongly supporting Israel’s right to defend itself and warning of the catastrophic risks if Iran acquires nuclear weapons. Cruz confirms that while he opposes U.S. boots on the ground, he supports providing Israel with the necessary military tools to succeed, including bunker-busting munitions. He also discusses the broader implications for U.S. national security and the safety of American troops in the region.

 

Listeners call in to share their views, with opinions split on the best course of action. Some caution against escalation, while others echo Clay’s call for decisive military support to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power.

 

KY Senator Rand Paul

 

KY Senator Rand Paul urges President Donald Trump to avoid direct military involvement and emphasizing constitutional limits on war powers. Paul critiques the potential consequences of U.S. intervention, including the risk of accelerating Iran’s nuclear ambitions and the dangers of regime change.

 

The conversation shifts to the “Big Beautiful Bill,” where Senator Paul voices strong concerns about the national debt, criticizing the bill’s weak spending cuts and the proposed $5 trillion debt ceiling increase. He calls for fiscal responsibility and outlines his conditional support for the bill, contingent on separating the debt ceiling from tax reform. Paul also reflects on his complex relationship with President Trump, highlighting mutual respect despite policy disagreements.

 

FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr

 

Brendan Carr, Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, joins the show to discuss media fairness, spectrum policy, and digital censorship. Carr addresses the imbalance in political coverage by legacy media outlets like ABC, CBS, and NBC, and outlines the FCC’s efforts to empower local broadcasters and investigate potential violations by NPR, PBS, and CBS’s “60 Minutes.” He also discusses the importance of restoring spectrum leadership to support emerging technologies like autonomous vehicles and AI, and defends free speech in the digital age, warning against government-corporate collusion in online censorship.

 

Additional listener calls and commentary touch on Iran’s historical context, the role of Elon Musk’s Starlink in bypassing state media, and the cultural shift in how younger generations consume news via platforms like YouTube and TikTok. The hour concludes with breaking news from the U.S. State Department advising against travel to Iran and Israel due to escalating conflict.

 

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