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Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. Senator, always a pleasure to be with you, and we've got one jam-packed show for you tonight. Well, there's an enormous amount going on. This week we saw the tragic murder of two people who worked in the Israeli embassy, murdered by a radical left Palestinian racist. It was the absolute manifestation of evil.

We're going to tell you what happened there and break down the evil that we are seeing on college campuses, that we are seeing spreading hate, hate for Jews and anti-Semitism, hate for Israel, hate for America, and the absolute, utter evil we saw unfold this week. We're also going to talk about the remarkable fact that the United States Senate passed my legislation, no taxes on tips,

100 to nothing. No taxes on tips is going to become the law of the land. The Democrats actually supported no taxes on tips. We're going to explain that to you.

And next, we're going to talk about the Take It Down Act, legislation I authored that President Trump signed into law this week that will protect women and teenage girls from revenge porn, from deepfake porn. It is critical legislation keeping all of our kids safe and keeping all of us safe, and it is now the law of the land.

Yeah, it really is. Plus, we've got something really cool. Neil McDonough is going to join us, and there is a new movie that is out right now. It is called The Last Rodeo. It is a faith-based, family-friendly movie that is getting nationwide distribution. You may know Neil from Tulsa King and Yellowstone. He's going to join us as well to talk about this new movie, and we're going to have a chance for you also to win free tickets as well for Verdict listeners. That's really awesome as well.

So, Senator, let's talk about this first just shocking attack that happened in Washington, D.C. Where this happened, I've been to this area and been to this place several times in my life. When you know where it happened, I think it just takes your breath away. And then to understand the hatred and the anti-Semitism behind it.

Yeah, it was just a few blocks away from the Capitol. It was by the D.C. field office. It was by a Jewish museum, and two people were murdered, Sarah Milgram and Yaron Lashinsky. They were about to get engaged to be married, and they were murdered for one reason, because they were Jewish. The person who killed them was not a Palestinian. He was not someone from Gaza. No, he was a left-wing radical,

from Chicago. His name is Elias Rodriguez, and he was a socialist, he was a Marxist, and when he murdered them, he murdered them screaming, free, free Palestine. This was the pure manifestation of hate. And I will tell you, he didn't just shoot them once.

he made certain to execute them. As Sarah crawled away in agony after he shot her,

He followed her and he shot her again and again and again from the back. He executed her in cold blood. He fired at least 21 9mm bullets at them. That's how many cartridge cases were found. And then he just jogged off. It is pure, unmitigated racist hate today.

And it is the lies that the left spreads. You know, this is one of those moments where you realize just how bad anti-Semitism has become specifically in this country. And a lot of it is among younger people. And it's it is exploded on college campuses. And we see that there are real consequences for this type of bigotry and hatred towards people that are Jewish.

Well, and Ben, I'll tell you an amazing story about the two of them that I learned today. So earlier today, I spoke at the Hudson Institute, and I spoke at their Middle East Center about the Middle East and about China's massive efforts to have greater influence in the Middle East. And I was interviewed by Zineb Rabua, who works at the Hudson Institute and who was good friends with Jeroen.

And a number of the people who were at my speech today were good friends with Yaron. In fact, he might well have attended the speech. He was a Middle East expert, and this was a speech in D.C. to Middle East experts the day after he and Sarah were murdered. Here's what Zineb told me that I did not know. I'm just going to read a tweet she sent earlier today. The last time I spoke with Yaron...

He told me that it was thanks to Ted Cruz that he met Sarah. They first crossed paths at an event where the senator was speaking. Today I had the privilege of sharing that story with Senator Cruz himself. We spoke about China, Iran, and the rise of anti-Semitism. He listened with warmth and paid a moving tribute to Yaron and Sarah. They both admired him deeply. I did not know Yaron and Sarah.

But I'm literally speechless. I'm literally reduced to tears that this is a couple who met at a speech I was given, fell in love, were about to get engaged, and were murdered by the face of evil. And I will tell you, this is the face of evil we see on college campuses. You know, the phrase free, free Palestine? I'll tell you, Ben, for a year—

I woke up every Saturday morning, 7 a.m., to screams of free, free Palestine in my front yard because pro-Hamas protesters arrived every morning, 7 a.m., banging bells and drums, screaming, screaming expletives and chanting free, free Palestine. And listen, this is the consequence of the anti-Semitic hate.

And I will tell you, I want you to listen to this interview on CNN. CNN interviewed one of the witnesses to what happened here, and listen to just the left-wing twist of

of what passes for our corporate media. Give a listen. As you go forward, as you go forward with what you have seen, can you give us any sense? Because you said you looked the shooter in the eyes. Can you give us any sense of what you saw in him as he was sort of getting help and people were tending to him as if he too was a victim of seeing this? Yeah, would you be clear? I like,

heard about that part because we were in a secure room when he initially walked in. I just saw him screaming and then being handcuffed. But what I saw in his eyes, I mean, I went to Columbia for grad school and I saw the same thing in his eyes as I saw in the eyes of all the protesters at Columbia. Nothing different between him and them. But they did not create this horrific shooting. They did not, you know, sort of they didn't shoot. They created, they gave permission. They gave the permission.

And they have called for this. They have called for Intifada revolution, which is the same thing he yelled last night. Do you worry that there will be a conflation, though, of the two, those people who are speaking their mind, who really care about what is happening in Gaza, and those people who are like this person who did this horrific shooting who intend to do harm?

a conflation, I mean, they are calling for intifada. At Columbia University, they call for intifada constantly. They're not quietly, they're loud. They're loud. You can hear it. They make recordings of themselves. So what's the difference?

Are you afraid? Yes. What were you afraid? Everyone should be afraid. What are you doing to try to make yourself feel safer? Well, just go on and live your life. I'm a New Yorker. I remember 9-11. You can't let them make you be afraid. You have to go on. You have to live your life. And hopefully your government does things to protect you. Last night, our government failed us.

You know, this is what's wrong with CNN. This is what's wrong with our corporate media. They want to defend the anti-Semitic protesters on campus.

That witness who saw the horrific murder, he's exactly right that when people are chanting, we love Hamas, which is what they're chanting on many of these campuses, when they're calling for Intifada, this is Intifada. This is the murder they're calling for, and CNN is being an apologist for them. And I have to say our prayers are very much with the families of Yaron and Sarah. What happened to them was utterly horrible and utterly evil.

Senator, I want to move on to a really exciting issue, and it's going to have a massive impact on a lot of hardworking Americans that are in the service industry. This is something that you have championed, and it became reality in a historic vote on no taxes on tips. What a simple idea, but it's going to have a huge impact in this country.

Well, two things happened this week on no taxes on tips. First of all, the House of Representatives passed the one big beautiful bill, the giant reconciliation bill that extends the Trump tax cuts, that secures the border, that rebuilds the military, and included within it is my legislation on no taxes on tips. So the House passed that this week. At the same time, the Senate took up and passed as a freestanding bill

My no taxes on tips legislation. And let me tell you the backstory on this. So you remember during the presidential campaign, President Trump campaigned on no taxes on tips and he rolled it out in Las Vegas. And the week after he rolled it out, he came and had lunch with all the Republican senators. And he told us the story of where the idea came from.

And he said before his rally in Las Vegas, he was sitting having lunch. And he said a waitress was bringing him his lunch. And Trump said, and she was beautiful. She was absolutely beautiful, which we were all cracking up laughing at. And he said she was expressing just how much burden it was to pay taxes on her tips. And the taxes on tips had gone up under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

And Trump said he just grabbed a notepad of paper and he wrote on the notepad, no taxes on tips. And he showed it to her and says, what do you think of this?

And she said, great, fantastic. So he said, well, I decided to just announce it at the rally. He said, sometimes I do that. And so he went out to the rally, thousands of people in Las Vegas. And he said, when I'm reelected, we will have no taxes on tips. And he said, and they went crazy. Everyone went crazy. So he told us that story. And I got to say, I thought it was brilliant. It was a great idea. I strongly support that idea. And so...

He announced it. He came up with it. And I said, well, I'm going to draft the legislation to make it happen. And so I sat down and wrote the legislation to make it part of our tax laws. And I introduced it the week after he announced it.

Well, the week I introduced it, two different Democrats, both senators from Nevada, joined my bill. They co-sponsored my bill. Actually, Jackie Rosen, one of the two Democrats from Nevada, she told me that day, she said, you know, 25% of the workers in the state of Nevada are tipped workers. So they joined my bill. My bill is the one the House put in one big, beautiful bill. Well, what happened this week is Jackie Rosen, the Democrat,

decided to go to the floor of the Senate and seek unanimous consent to pass my bill. Now, the way unanimous consent work is you're asking, will any senator object? And if no senator objects, then it passes. And the way you do it is you run what's called a hotline, which is you send a request to every senator's office, are you going to object to this? And I think the Democrats expected that the Republicans would object.

I'm sitting there going, wait a second, it's my bill. Why would I object to my own bill? Of course I want to pass my bill. So I didn't object. No other Republican objected. And astonishingly, no Democrat objected either. So Jackie came to the Senate floor and she said, hey, I think this thing's going to pass.

And I said, well, do it quickly. Get up and do it quickly. Don't give a long speech. Just stand up and ask unanimous consent and get it done. Because I was worried that some Democrat was going to turn on C-SPAN and see what we were doing and run down to the Senate floor and object. Well...

And it is very unusual for somebody else to ask unanimous consent to pass your bill. It's almost always you. You're almost always the one doing it. But she went. She asked for consent. Nobody objected. And so no tax on tips passed the United States Senate this week. One hundred to nothing. Every Republican voted for it. Every Democrat voted for it. And the good news about that.

is it means the chances of no taxes on tips becoming federal law are now very close to 100%. It's in the reconciliation bill. It will either pass as part of one big, beautiful bill, or it will pass as a freestanding bill. Either way, we're going to get that policy, which is a great policy for American workers. So how often do you get 100 to nothing bills like this? I mean, that's the part that I think is just so exciting.

You know, it happens with some regularity. In the Senate in particular, you work to find a bill that people agree with, and you go down and pass legislation, and you can get legislation passed 100 to nothing. I have authored and passed into law 103 different pieces of legislation, and

And my guess is roughly half of them or more were by unanimous consent. They passed 100 to nothing. Some of it is you work out the objections in the process. And so when you run the hotline, you may get four or five objectors and you go to them and say, hey, what's your problem with the bill? What do you not like about it? And if they have a particular concern, you try to work through it. All right. Another bill that we will get passed, but we haven't yet.

is my bill on AM radio for every vehicle. Look, we're on AM radio right now. As you know, eight car makers announced that they were going to pull AM radio off of new cars and new trucks. And I introduced legislation with Ed Markey, liberal Democrat from Massachusetts, to ensure that AM radio stays in new cars and trucks. Actually, the day after Markey and I introduced the legislation,

Ford Motor Company reversed its decision and said, we're going to go back to including AM radio. So I went to the Senate floor and tried to pass it by unanimous consent.

And it failed because Rand Paul came down and objected. And Rand Paul opposes mandates of every kind. I oppose many mandates, but I think giving consumers the choice of having AM radio is a good choice for consumers. It's very inexpensive for car makers. And so that one will not pass by unanimous consent. So we'll have to get floor time, which is harder to get. What I will say on no taxes on tips is,

This is a policy that really is the manifestation of how the Republican Party today is a blue-collar party. This is a policy that is going to benefit waiters and waitresses. It's going to benefit bartenders. It's going to benefit barbers and hairstylists. It's going to benefit beauticians and people who work at nail salons and taxi cab drivers. It is impacting the working men and women.

And that's the base who elected President Trump. And that's the base who elected me. And so it's really a great and astonishing victory. I got to tell you, Ben,

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Senator, let's talk about this other incredible moment that happened this week at the White House. Donald Trump signed the Take It Down Act into law. It's something that you championed. And remind people what this law is intent and why it is such an important piece of legislation to protect not only young people and minors, but really anyone from just evil and hateful revenge from an ex.

Well, this is legislation that I authored, that President Trump signed into law this week. Actually, he signed it into law in the Rose Garden at a big ceremony in the Rose Garden. I've done a lot of bill signing ceremonies in the Oval Office. This is the first time I've been in the Rose Garden because you had victim groups and victim advocates and people who have been victims of non-consensual explicit imagery. Now, what is that? That's really two different things.

Number one, so-called revenge porn. So if you have a boyfriend and girlfriend and they're in a relationship and they take explicit pictures or videos and then they have a breakup and one or the other is mad and they say, okay, I'm going to stick it to you. I'm going to put this out for the whole world to see. And it is an utterly grotesque violation of privacy. Nobody has the right to do that to somebody else. And it's something we're seeing happening more and more often.

There's a second manifestation that is new and it has to deal with technology, which is more and more we are seeing people use AI, artificial intelligence, to create deep fakes and deep fakes where they appear to be either a picture or a video of a real person, but it's utterly fake. And so they make a naked or explicit image of someone and put it out and and

The incidence of deep fakes last year increased 3,000%, and over 90% of the victims of deep fake explicit imagery are women or teenage girls. And so it is growing massively. And so the Take It Down Act is legislation that I introduced that makes it a crime, a federal felony, to post non-consensual intimate images, either real pictures or deep fakes. And secondly...

It puts a federal statutory obligation on tech platforms to take the pictures down, to take the videos down, because the platforms have been horrible responding to victims. They ignore victims. They leave the images up. And so the victim ends up being killed.

being victimized over and over and over again by the images staying out there. And so the Take It Down Act puts a legal obligation that when the victim notifies them, hey, that's me, that's an explicit image of me, and you don't have my consent to put it up, they have to take it down. This legislation I introduced with Amy Klobuchar, Democrat from Minnesota, and we passed it through the Senate. We passed it unanimously. It was 100 to nothing.

And then the House took it up and passed it with an overwhelming bipartisan majority. And President Trump signed it into law. And give a listen to what President Trump said this week in the Rose Garden as he signed the Take It Down Act into law. Today, it's my honor to officially sign the Take It Down Act into law. It's a big thing, very important, so horrible what takes place. This will be the first ever federal law to combat the distribution of explicit information

imaginary, posted without subject's consent. Take horrible pictures

pictures and I guess sometimes even make up the pictures and they post it without consent or anything else and very importantly this includes for forgeries generated by artificial intelligence known as deep fakes. We've all heard about deep fakes. I have them all the time but nobody does anything. I asked Pam, can you help me Pam? She says no, I'm too busy. Too busy doing other things. Don't worry, you'll survive. But a lot of people don't survive.

That's true and so horrible. With the rise of AI image generation, countless women have been harassed with deep fakes and other explicit images distributed against their will. This is the wrong and it's just so horribly wrong. And it's a very abusive situation like

In some cases, people have never seen before. And today we're making it totally illegal. Senator, one of the things I just I love about this legislation is the fact that not only is it bipartisan, but you had the first lady who really got involved in this as well. It was important to her. And that made it, I think, even easier to bridge the gap.

Well, we did. The first lady became very active in pushing this bill. She reached out to me and said she wanted to help get it over the finish line. So last year, we passed it out of the Senate 100 to nothing, and the House failed to take it up last year. So it did not pass last year.

And so we got to this year, to the new Congress. I passed it through the Senate again, 100 to nothing. And the real battle was to get it to rise up the priority list of House leadership. And so when the first lady called my office and said she wanted to help, what I did is I invited her to come to Capitol Hill for a roundtable where she could hear from the victims and and

Also at that roundtable was the Speaker of the House and Steve Scalise, the Majority Leader, and Brett Guthrie, who's the Committee Chairman in the House. And when the First Lady asked them, will you please pass this into law, they committed to her they would. And this was the day before the State of the Union Address. And you may remember at the State of the Union Address, Melania was sitting with a teenage girl from Texas, Elliston Berry.

And President Trump told her story in the State of the Union and called on Congress to pass this bill. And I'll tell you, it's actually, it's a fascinating story of how this bill came to pass because it originates with one teenage girl in Texas, Elliston Berry. She's from North Texas, from Aledo, Texas. And a year ago, she was 14 and she was in ninth grade. And she woke up one morning and her phone was blowing up with texts from her friends.

Because a classmate of hers had taken a perfectly innocent picture of her from social media and had used an app online that he had found

to create a deep fake and then sent what appeared to be naked pictures of Elliston to all of her ninth grade classmates. And so she was in tears. Listen, it is hard to be a teenager. I'm the father of two teenage girls. I know the pressure that is on teenage girls. It's much harder to be a teenager today than when you and I were teenagers, Ben. And this was just horrific. Well, what happened is,

is her mom, Ana. Look, Elliston and Ana are constituents. They're Texans. So Ana picked up the phone and called my office and said, hey, look, you're my senator. Can you help my daughter?

And my staff, to their credit, they elevated this to me and they told me what had happened to Elliston. And this is happening more and more all over the country. And so I said, look, let's draft legislation to fix this, to address the problem. And so we did. And it was it was because of Elliston that we drafted it. But as I said, it's happening all over the country now.

Well, Elliston came to D.C. the day we announced the bill last year for the press conference, and I sat down and met with Elliston. I met with her mom in my office. And in the course of the meeting, I asked, I said, hey, what happened to the pictures? And her mom said it's the most frustrating thing in the world. She said this happened nine months ago. She said, I have been calling and emailing Snapchat over and over and over again. They just stonewall us. We get no response.

Ben, I turned to my staff. I said, I want you to get the CEO of Snapchat on the phone today. I want those pictures down today. They pulled them down within two hours.

Now, it should not take a sitting senator making a phone call to get those pictures taken down. And now, as a result of the legislation Trump has signed, every victim has a statutory right to insist that it be taken down as a matter of law automatically. Yeah. In fact, Alison Barry got to go on Fox News Channel with our good friend Kayleigh McEnany and talk about this moment. And here's what she had to say. Take a listen.

You decided to go and talk to your local congressman. You get connected with a senator and then you manage. There you are standing behind the president of the United States, changing the laws for other young women like you. Did you ever think this day would come?

I never would have thought that this could ever be my reality. My mom, she's really an amazing person, and she's the one that's been pushing for this, and she's the one that's encouraged me. So I wouldn't be able to do this without her help and her support. And she really just has encouraged me to the point where I feel...

encouraged about this. So having the opportunity to speak about this and to bring awareness really just means so much, especially it's so much growth seeing how scared I was at first and seeing how confident I am able in this situation. Well, other young women now have recourse. Thanks to you. Elliston Berry, so impressive. Thank you. I love it. It's just, it's finally a happy ending to a really hard and sad subject.

Well, and Ben, at the signing ceremony, I was able to introduce Elliston to the president. I introduced also Francesca Mani, who's another 15-year-old girl who was in New Jersey, and the exact same thing happened to her as happened to Elliston. And I also introduced Brandon Guffey. Brandon Guffey is a state rep from South Carolina. And tragically, his oldest son got what we thought was a direct message from a cute girl,

and she convinced him to send naked pictures to her. Well, it turned out it was not a cute girl. It was a con man. And the con man began extorting him and threatening, I'm going to send these naked pictures to your friends and family.

Well, Brandon's son Gavin killed himself, and we are seeing suicides across the country. So I introduced Brandon and his family to the president, too, and this law is a victory for everyone that is a target of this kind of exploitation. I got something really fun that we get to do, and if you've got family, kids, grandkids...

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I'm so excited about it. Ben, thanks for having me on your show, first and foremost. But this is one of those shows that's kind of the culmination of everything I've worked towards in my whole career to be able to finally be the hero in the film, kiss the girl in the end. Of course, everyone knows that I won't kiss anybody else, but I get to kiss my actual real-life wife who plays my wife in the film. So that alone for me is just, I finally have gotten to where I've always aspired and prayed to be, and it feels so good to be in this position.

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Well, you know, I think you just kind of nailed it. There aren't many films out in the landscape anymore where you can bring the whole family and not the saccharine sweet types of films. The films that actually have a bite to it that the whole family can go to, kids, grandparents, anyone, and learn from. And know that you're not going to have to cover ears or eyes. You're going to have some great films. You're going to have great action with the bull riding. But you're going to have a story about families and broken families and how you're

How you mend a fractured family. And for me, you do it through faith. And when I went through all my difficult things in life, it was always my faith that got me through. Faith in my wife, Renee. Those two things have been my two greatest things in my life. And now I get to write about both of them and star in it opposite my wife. So I'm just, I'm so excited about this film. It's hard to even put it into words, man.

You talked about doing this with your wife. Have you guys ever gotten to act before in movies? Or is this the first time you're the lead and she's a big one? My wife's never acted before. When I wrote the film, I'm like, okay, honey, so, you know, I've always wanted to be the John Wayne guy who, you know, is the hero in the end who has to kiss the girl in the end. She's like, yeah. I'm like, well, I'm finally going to do it. She's like, okay.

but I need to do it with you because I won't kiss anybody else because I'm not an actress. I'm like, well, you are now. And she did awesome. I'm so proud of her. She was a runway model. She was a supermodel. So she understands the pressure of being in front of people and delivering. So for her in front of a camera, it was very natural. And I'm just so happy.

I'm so happy for her. Now, when you wrote this, you also have real stars in here as well that you mentioned a moment ago, PBR stars. What brought you the idea to even write this script specifically with bull riding? I'm a big fan. I've gone to a lot of different rodeos, eight second tour, et cetera. It is a brutal sport. What inspired you to use this as the backdrop?

Well, Ben, I was doing another film at the time called The Warrant, another Western that Revae and I are producing. And when I'm not around Revae, she was home at the time with the kids. When I'm not around my family, I get really just downright kind of depressed at times, and it's really hard. I don't like being on the road. But one day I was driving home from set in Arizona, and I got gut-punched with this thought that, well, whatever happened to me if something happened to Revae?

And then I pulled over to the side of the road, just kind of buckled. And then this other idea came in my head, which I, it had to be from God because I didn't know a whole lot about bull riding. And this idea came into my head, right? Rocky on a bull for a grandfather who has to save his grandson because he's dying of the same brain tumor that killed his wife.

This came out, and I don't know where that came from, but it just did. And then I sat inside of the Penn freeway for two hours, voice dictating into my phone. I'm dyslexic, so I'm not very good at writing. So I always do all my writing through voice dictation. And I sent it out to my writing partner. And within the week, we had our first draft. And a week later, Rene and I raised the financing. And Angel Studios came on board. And here we are almost two years later. And it's kind of miraculous. It really is.

Well, you mentioned that this is a family-friendly movie. You don't have to worry. That's one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on. How tough is it to produce movies like this in the environment we're in now? Because I know you had friends and people that you could go to for financing, but saddling up to do a pro bull riding movie and on top of having all the pressure behind you of getting this out and then getting it to the big screen, it's not an easy task, especially in 2025.

No, it's not. It's a minor miracle to pull any film off, but for this one, God led me the whole way in this one. I wanted John Abnett to direct it. The amazing John Abnett and what an incredible director he is. He killed it. I wanted Michael T. Williamson and Christopher McDonald to play my two guys in the film, and they're two of my best friends of life. And we went after one of my best friends back home, Liam Griffin, helped us with the film, and then these other financiers came to me and said, hey, we know what you're doing. We were

We really like what you're doing with your message and Angel Studios. We'd like to help finance your next film. So between those two parties, all of a sudden we had our budget, we had distribution and everything just kind of went according to plan, which was kind of miraculous. Yeah. There's, there's always hiccups. There's, there's always variables that you wouldn't even think of, but,

But we always knew that we were doing something that was for his glory, not our own. And everyone bought into it. So when you say Hollywood doesn't want that stuff, I think that in their heart of hearts, they actually do. And I think that this film was a whole lot easier to make than other films because it did have a faith backdrop. It wasn't a film that the whole family can go to.

You know, so I think the landscape is changing. A lot of it thanks to Angel Studios and our partnership with Angel and the films we've been doing that you can make these smaller films and turn a profit. And that's great for everybody. And to be able to put these movies out and have the support of all the fans who go to the films and buy tickets and pay it forward, anything you can do with Angel, is

It's just, it's so humbling, Ben. Again, it's hard to, I get so choked up just thinking about how fortunate I am and blessed I am to be able to sit here on a show like this and talk about this amazing film that we have coming out. Last question for you. There's a rumor that you actually got injured while bull riding. Is this true? Which time? Right? Okay. I love it. I love when I get good intel.

Yeah, I got busted up a lot. You know, we trained for months and months and months to make sure I look as authentic as possible. And, yeah, I busted up my wrist. I busted a few other things. My shoulder popped out. That hurt like the dickens. But I didn't tell anybody. I just went around the corner and snapped it back in at this barn, this door around the corner. And I popped back in. I had, like, tears in my eyes. And John's like, you okay? I'm like, yep, ready. Let's roll.

And I didn't tell him the story for three months later because if I had told him, he would have shut it down and everyone would have gone crazy. I'm a tough old dude, so I kept it to myself. And a couple other injuries that happened. Those are war wounds that I consider as trophies and medals.

I love it. Well, the movie is out. Go see it. The Last Rodeo. It is in theaters. Help keep it in theaters. Support great movies that have been greenlight for your family. You can also get two free tickets to see The Last Rodeo by going to angel.com slash verdict now. You can get your two free tickets to The Last Rodeo today. And support. I tell people this all the time, Neil. When you see a movie that is made for your family, safe for your family, back it, support it.

advocate for it, put it up on social media because unfortunately we have too much trash being made and not enough wholesome movies like this. So congrats on doing it and I hope everyone listening is going to go check it out. I hope so. Your viewers who are our kind of people, if they're out there supporting it by backing it financially, going to the cinema, being there, not waiting until it comes out on DVDs or anything else, it's

It's telling Hollywood exactly what you just said, Ben. We need more of this and less of the other. So thank you for putting that word up for me. I really appreciate it. Amen. Be safe out there on the road. Always a pleasure. We'll talk to you again real soon. It's a really fun show today. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Don't forget, this is exactly why we do this show three days a week. Hit that subscribe or auto-download button. You don't want to

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