Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck - Jun 22 2025
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Buck has gotten fired up about this because he can't believe that it's real. Some of you may have seen this. I believe it was Monday night. The

The Atlanta Braves are playing the Toronto Blue Jays. And the Braves broadcast has a basically sideline reporter who is a young, you know, good looking guy who is working the sideline. And he is interviewing two different girls, cute blonde girls in the crowd who appear to be Braves fans, I believe.

Here is what it sounded like. This is cut 24. The video is out. We'll post it at clayandbuck.com if you have not seen this. This has gone mega viral, but here is what it sounded like if you were watching this baseball game Monday night. We're having a lot of fun up here at the Corona Rooftop. Who do we got here? What's your name? My name's Lauren. Lauren's, all right. And I'm Kayla. Kayla, and you guys hang out at the Rooftop Lounge often? Once a year, I come out to visit. Okay, well, we timed it pretty well. All right, good. How are you guys feeling about Root for the Braves today?

Oh, I don't know. I'm hoping for the best.

What about you? Are you a Braves fan now? Not quite. Not quite. All right, I'm going to go to work up here, guys. Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley. You've got five innings, four innings to get the numbers. Come on in. Come on in. Come on in. Get us some more Braves fans. All right, so they want me to get your number. They want you to get my number. I'm dead serious. They're saying it in my ear right now. She doesn't believe me because she thinks you guys are not making this up. Even if you guys weren't, I might use that in the future. That's actually a pretty good move.

Okay, so it continues. You can hear the girl in the background saying they want you to get my number. And he ends up getting one of these girls' phone numbers. It goes viral. And Buck, you have seen the reaction and you've been texting. I sent it to you because I was like, I think you'll enjoy this. Many members of the sports media

have lost their mind. They are saying this is misogynistic. They are saying this is completely unprofessional. You've seen the reactions. Can you believe the reactions to that lighthearted clip that we just played for you? Clegg knows he can do this because he tells me, but I don't, as you all know, I,

I don't pay any attention to the sports media commentary world, really. So I just this is like it's as though Clay's telling me about the latest Broadway theater critics or something. I just don't follow them. So I don't know. And he goes, oh, no, you don't understand how woke they are. And he sends me this stuff. And it's like throwing steak in the lion den. I completely freak out because all I can think about is the sports media does this.

Of all the media to do this, the people that are talking about guys swinging bats and throwing balls and doing all this stuff and making all this money, and some of them have cheerleaders on the sidelines or dancers at halftime. Even though he tells me, my mind continues to be blown because it's... I don't even know it's possible. Clay, what a killjoy. I mean, who could...

If you can't take a shot at it. Let me read you. I will read you a couple of the comments from sports media members. Some of you don't know. This is a woman named Dani Sarek. She is on the sidelines somewhere doing something. So are we still going to ask women in sports if they're only doing their job to date athletes? We can all agree how inappropriate and nasty this is. Not to mention the double standard right.

These are not athletes. These are girls in the stands, right? But this is a sportsman. Here's a man. This is a man who writes. Ostensibly, this person has a function. Do we have to put man in quotes? This is a guy. Can we send him some chalk? Because the T levels, I'm telling you, sub-medical grade. He needs help. You're going to hear this. Ostensibly, this is a man. Ralph Vacciano tweets this.

You just heard this clip. An unprofessional disgrace from the reporter to the guys in the booth to the producer in the truck who could have stopped it at any point. It's not fun. It's not cool. It's not harmless. And it's only a standard for harassment.

This is a guy who covers sports. I feel my estrogen level rising just from listening to this. I cannot understand. There were a bunch of these guys and these girls who lose their mind. I have been arguing, and frankly, I found that a company based on it

The disconnect between the average sports fan and the average sports media member is more substantial than the disconnect between media and any other group that consumes their content anywhere. And let me hit you with this, Buck, and this is my overall thesis. If you cover a game for a living, that is your job is to watch people play something

With very, very few exceptions. Because there are some people who are like, hey, I'm a sports reporter, but I also cover trials. So there could be criminal cases. Or I'm a sports business reporter and I'm focused on the valuation of franchise, things like that. But if you cover the game itself...

Your job is to make someone like something that they already like, like it more. And if you don't do that, you're doing something wrong because your job is to talk about a sport. Here's what I think is really happening. I think these people, everyone who criticized this Braves reporter, I think voted for Kamala Harris. Overwhelmingly, they hate fun.

I also think so many people in sports media are insecure because they're grownups who cover a game. And instead of embracing the fun, they feel like they have to convince people that they're capable of sitting at the big, big kids table. And so they wildly over analyze the significance of relatively fun, not very significant moments.

Clay, if a single guy can't take his shot and ask a pretty lady for her phone number, I don't even know what country we live in anymore. It's definitely not America.

This is the entire basis for how every human gets together, right? Every baby on some level required most of the time. Sometimes girls get numbers. Most of the time it's guys requires a guy to ask a girl for her phone number, right? This is the foundation of all of our existences. The funniest thing is you can always tell when people ask rhetorical questions and the rhetorical question is obviously wrong and stupid, meaning they think that it's like, oh, what would have happened if a woman had asked a guy if the roles were reversed?

I mean, the guy would be doing backflips. What are you talking about? An attractive female... If he's single, and if you're not, you just say, I'm married, or you say, I have a girlfriend. But if a single... If an attractive sideline reporter came up to Clay pre-Laura or Buck pre-Carrie and was like, hey, can I have your phone number? I promise you, he wouldn't have been like, I feel so harassed. It would be the greatest moment of every guy's life. Now, women don't think about this in the same way as men, because if you're an attractive woman...

You are being pursued by men every moment of your life, right? I mean, this is the reality. You go to the grocery store, a good-looking guy. I mean, you're a good-looking girl. A guy might hit on you, right? Like you're at the gym. Wherever you are, there are men who are pursuing you. This is how biology works by and large. You might not like it,

that are pursuing you. But the idea, Buck, to your point, if a pretty girl in the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here, you should ask him for his phone number. And he got the

The phone number? Every guy in America would be like, this is the coolest thing that's ever happened. They're not going to rip the girl. This is a hero moment. Are you kidding me? Everybody would say it was really cool of the girl to make the move. And the guy is the luckiest guy we've seen. But you sort of get into this. How are people supposed to meet people?

Right. What is now the is it all just it's only algorithms online where you're you're you know, you're at arm's distance and you don't actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting somebody or actually talking to them. I mean, what I Clay, when you sent me the I swear I kept reading through it and it was just like my my. Fortunately, I have a lot of hair, but I was pulling the hair out of my head. I could not understand is the only sports media site in the entire country.

that will say there's nothing wrong with this this is good light-hearted i mean to me this is almost like you know at the end of a local newscast they'll do like uh oh like a local mallard in the park you know lost one of her something happy to try to send people off into their day yes this is like a happy end of newscast kind of story it's like oh and she found her baby duckling yay you know see you tomorrow everybody uh this is like a nice happy story it's cute look

maybe she gave him a fake number. Look, maybe it doesn't matter. It's a nice little exchange. Obviously, people think this woman that he's asking, you know, is an attractive young woman, and it's all... I just...

This is like, it's like Shakespearean comedy. It's like, this is the sort of thing that in Western civilization, we'd all sit around and smile about it and be like, oh, isn't that fun? And Killjoy sports reporters think that it undermines the seriousness of women in the industry or something? Like, are they just bitter because nobody watched the WNBA draft, Clay? Like, what is the problem here? They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates to them dating a player or an athlete.

This is not the same thing at all. Nothing to do with that. Not even remotely close. And also it's just a desperate desire to make yourself a victim. Something nice happens on television. I, you know what? I already tweeted this, but this is not going to surprise you.

If I owned the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy. I would have them go on a date at a game. I would have a reporter assigned to cover the date during the course of the broadcast. You know this because you've done this show long enough for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I do is to do it even more aggressively.

Like some people are like, oh, you know what? I'll take a step back. I'm like, we're going to go faster, even faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into this because I think what it does, and this was the basic foundation of OutKick is,

I think that much of social media is BS. I think that a lot of what people say there is not representative of the real world. And if you allow yourself to be governed by what people say on social media, you end up making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand, for your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made for a long time, and I think I'm being proven more right every single day, is it would be like, Buck, back in the day, remember those...

funny mirrors when you would go to a carnival and some of them make you look super fat and some of them make you look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your diet based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your overall life would be. I think that's the story of media. I think media used

social media as a representative, honest reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their coverage as a result. And I think they lit themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it. Certainly we saw it in sports without kick and sanity is returning. But every time we have one of these blow ups, I look at the comments like you did. And I just I feel like I'm living in a different world than the reality of the day to day existence that I see.

Still, it's one of these things where I didn't think we would really talk about this because it would only be, you know, there's some people who, you know, they'll get mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what can relax you? Take a deep breath. They're like, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Big Deep Breath. People got mad at you when you were like, hey, you know what you should do more of? Walk. And people were like, oh, you're such an elitist. Look at you able to walk. Fancy radio host with your walking daily. Mmm.

You know, I swear. I'm not kidding. There were a bunch of people that were attacking me like, sorry, some of us have jobs that don't. I'm like, don't allow you to find any time in the day to go for a walk anywhere. OK, I mean, I'm sorry you work in like the Foxconn iPhone factory.

This is like me, and I've said this to my boys a lot, like, hey, you can do push-ups anywhere. I understand everybody doesn't have a fancy gym membership, but you can do push-ups and sit-ups pretty much anywhere. I mean, people in jail cells get ripped because they just sit around and do push-ups and sit-ups all day. You can walk anywhere, pretty much, unless you happen to live in Antarctica. But is there people that want to be bitter about everything, was my point, and you'll find that on the internet. They just want to be bitter, but...

People that make a living commenting on sports, instead of seeing this as a viral clip and something that could bring everyone together, a lot, a lot. Clay's point is it's not that a couple, a lot of them were attacking this. 20, 30 people with substantial audiences like this is unacceptable. How dare this be allowed to occur?

It's real. People are so nuts. They're so totally nuts. It is. It is crazy. Anyway, if you're a single guy, go ask a pretty girl for a phone number and hopefully you'll have kids one day. And that will be the foundation of your or if you're a nice young woman and you find a guy who's single and you think he's cute. Ask him. I promise you, if he's not going to be offended, he's not going to be offended. You're not going to be offended. I promise you. How dare you? How dare you, madam?

One of the most intimidating things that any man ever has to do is ask a pretty girl for her phone number or her contact information because it sets you up for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom, everybody who's ever been to a dance, men have to ask overwhelmingly. Yeah, if you're a pretty girl and you like a guy, go for it. I got my battleship sunk plenty of times before I got married. And you know what? Builds character.

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Whole line from the movie Roadhouse. Be nice until it's time not to be nice. I think that, first of all, great reference. Roadhouse, one of the most watchable absurd movies ever made. They just remade it, and now they're making a Roadhouse 2, right? You watched, I never saw the remake. No, but I don't even have to. It had like the little Irish MMA guy in it. What's his name? Not the new one. Yeah, Conor McGregor.

No, no, no. I don't know if I want to be on record with Buck saying that Conor McGregor is a little Irish guy. I'm not...

That's fair. I'm not saying he can't fight and he can't kick my ass. I'm just saying he's not an actor. I'm going to be having to get it somewhere and there's going to be a tap on my shoulder and that little Irish guy is going to be there kicking my ass and I'm going to be like, no, it was Buck who said it. I didn't have anything to do with it. And Jay Gyllenhaal is playing the lead role, right? Yeah. It's set in the 40s. It is a Patrick Swayze classic for those of you who have not seen it.

It is absolutely absurd. Like, the whole movie. He lives across the lake from the main bad guy. He's like, somehow knows karate. He went to NYU. Like, the movie.

None of it adds up. The movie makes absolutely... He goes, he gets stabbed in a knife fight and the nurse who's tending to him is like a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model who lives in this small town and then wants to go roll around with this guy in like the actual barn that he lives in. I'm just, look.

Not all heroes wear capes. It was pretty amazing that he was able to pull this off in the movie. But yes, it is very, very Sam Elliott, by the way. Some great Sam Elliott stuff. What does he keep? Does he call him Kimo Sabe or what's his meet me? Meho. He calls a meho in the movie. Is there a bet? This is a fun debate. Is there a better 1980s era range of actor range?

than Patrick Swayze for wildly successful movies that had nothing in common. Because if you think about, just off the top of my head, Ghost, Dirty Dancing, and Roadhouse...

The difference between Roadhouse and Ghost is, or Roadhouse and Dirty Dancing. And I guess Point Break is 90s. Point Break would be another great one to add. And then some of you are going to remember this, and this is the history nerd in me. He also played a Civil War soldier. I don't know how many of you are even going to remember this. Was this at Civil War Camp, Clay? Civil War nerd. We just sat around and watched this movie. He played a Confederate general.

uh or remain from south carolina the range of patrick swayze excellence to your point if you was point break 1990 it might have been just the very right around that but i mean if you think about ghost if you think about dirty dancing roadhouse north and south and love and war which was like this television miniseries epic based on the john jakes novels

of the Civil War. And man, I may well have super nerded myself out there. I don't know how many of you read these in the 80s, but I did. And because of the miniseries was so popular.

Patrick Swayze might have had the best acting career of anyone, range, super successful movies in the 1980s. I mean, like Arnold Schwarzenegger basically played Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? Sylvester Stallone basically played Sylvester Stallone. I know there's some exceptions, like Arnold Schwarzenegger was in Twins with Danny DeVito where he was funny. What about Kindergarten Cop? It's not the tumor. It's one of his best. There are a few. Oh, Monty Python.

Michael Berry, our buddy down in Houston, just texted me. Red Dawn? I mean, remember how good he was? Swayze and Red Dawn, too, in the 1980s? I just want to say, well played, Mr. Berry. Well played. He's got a great show in Houston, for those of you that are listening to us right now. But, I mean, think about it. Is he—this may be the most aggressive, crazy argument I've made—

Is Patrick Swayze the most underrated 1980s movie actor of all time? I don't know if he could. I don't think he's underrated enough. I don't think he's underrated. I think that, well, he passed away of cancer, sadly, some years ago. But I just think that he didn't stay as big for long. But I think that he was, I think in the 80s, he was a true leading man and was getting his due. Look at the movies. He was the best 1980s actor.

If you consider right now, you're getting, now you're getting, now you're calling a range on range. I think there's a sway. There's an under, under disrespected, uh,

Under the radar argument for Patrick Swayze's excellence. Your generation, you Gen X people like Pacino and De Niro way too much. So that always comes up in this. I've never been. Robert De Niro plays the same character in every movie. The same thing in everything. The same Italian mafioso mobster guy. The whole thing. I would put them in the really overrated category, actually, of actors.

Yeah, that's a hot take for you. Some of the people in the Northeast, we got a lot of New Jersey, New York listeners. They're not going to like that one, but I'm just telling you, okay? Yeah, Goodfellas is very watchable, but let's calm down. It's not as great as everybody pretends. Michael Berry's still firing, by the way, the Outsiders. All 1980s. I'm going to maybe have to die on this hill.

But I think Harrison Ford was huge in the 80s, Indiana Jones, right? You're saying best actor with range. Range. Basically, Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones or Han Solo in those movies across the board, right? The range of Dirty Dancing to Roadhouse to Red Dawn, is there better 1980s performance than Patrick Swayze? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure we can beat him. I actually don't, I don't, I would, I would love to disagree with you, but I actually can't come up with anything on the fly here to refute your argument, which makes me think that it's not as crazy as my initial. I mean, like Michael J. Fox was great. And I'm going to talk about testosterone here in a minute, but Michael J. Fox also wasn't taking over, uh, you know, like a, a country, right. In a, in a, in a, or a bar or whatever. It wasn't like an action hero. Uh, and you know, Patrick Swayze in the eighties, you know what? I bet he had buck.

unbelievable levels of testosterone i bet his testosterone levels were through the roof you can't make pottery like that in ghost and then also simultaneously simultaneously beat everybody's ass in roadhouse without incredible levels of testosterone he's a lover and he was a fighter buck this is not gonna surprise you but we are deluged michael barry says i didn't know this

He's evidently a fount of Patrick Swayze knowledge, our Houston lead-in. Phenomenal talent down there. Patrick Swayze, legend in Houston. Mom ran a famous dance studio for decades. He came up through the dance studio family known by everybody. Michael Berry, unexpected savant when it comes to Patrick Swayze knowledge. And a lot of you firing away. But Buck, you have...

You have someone that you think is a more successful range actor from the 1980s that you thought about during break, and I don't even know the answer here yet. I think we have to bring Tom Hanks into the conversation here.

I think we have to bring Tom Hanks in. You're talking Splash, Big, Turner and Hooch, Dragnet. You know, you get a whole... And then he gets into, like, Philadelphia, Forrest Gump. Now, that's early 90s. But that's the 90s. 90s, I would argue... I knew he was going to pull this. I would argue you probably made a good case for Tom Hanks in the 90s to be the actor with the best name. No, but all those movies I named were 80s.

So that's Turner and Hooch, Dragnet, Splash. He was a little more of a kind of romantic lead comedy guy in the 80s and then very much transitioned into like leading man serious roles. To be fair, the transition really occurs right around 1990. So your premise still holds, which I'm bitter having to say that. But yes, was big 1980s. Yes. Tom Hanks big. That was, by the way, you want to talk about a movie that is super creepy?

Super creepy in retrospect. Yeah, I know. 10-year-old boy sleeping with, you know, like... I'm not sure that movie holds up really well as you get to be an adult. It's great when you're 10, but you watch it and you're like, ooh. We got some VIPs real quick here. Tom Cruise and my friend Garrett just texted. He's listening. He said Tom Cruise...

I don't know if Tom Cruise has range. I think he's probably the biggest leading man of all time. Him and Harrison Ford, probably neck and neck. Also, VIP Rick writes Harrison Ford, much greater range. Witness, Working Girl, so many more. Maybe true. Although I feel like Harrison Ford always just plays Harrison Ford. I don't know. I agree. I think Harrison Ford's always Harrison Ford. And again, Tom Cruise, always Tom Cruise. I think my argument's right here. I think Patrick Swayze is the actor with the greatest range of the 1980s.

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