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Tudor Dixon: 我对密歇根州民主党检察长调查州长惠特默感到惊讶,因为这表明腐败问题非常严重。惠特默作为2028年总统的潜在竞争者,正面临着来自党内的调查,这在过去是难以想象的。政府是否应该动用纳税人的钱来资助那些未能有效创造就业的公司?例如,一项2000万美元的拨款被授予了一位民主党捐助者,她在获得资金后才成立公司,这明显存在腐败问题。民主党内部的权力斗争也浮出水面,检察长内塞尔对惠特默的态度表明两人之间存在矛盾,这可能会给惠特默带来法律问题。 Kyle Olson: 政府利用纳税人资金给公司创造就业机会是一个值得关注的问题。我们一直在关注惠特默州长在做什么,以及她把钱给了哪些公司,创造了哪些就业机会。MEDC 负责将纳税人的钱分配给在密歇根州建立公司的企业。Faye Bay Doon 既是 MEDC 的决策者,又是 2000 万美元拨款的接受者。至少表面上,Dana Nessel 正在努力为这种情况带来一些问责制。LG 获得了密歇根州纳税人的 1.89 亿美元,用于建造电动汽车电池,但后来 LG 决定不建造电动汽车电池,而是建造不同类型的电池,这违反了协议条款。Gretchen Whitmer 不会要求返还 1.89 亿美元,而且我们没有获得任何新的就业机会。

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This chapter focuses on the investigation into Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer's administration, specifically concerning the allocation of taxpayer money to companies with questionable practices. It highlights the conflict between Whitmer and the state's Attorney General, Dana Nessel, and the potential misuse of funds.
  • Investigation into Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer
  • Misuse of taxpayer funds by the MEDC
  • Conflict between Governor Whitmer and Attorney General Nessel
  • $20 million grant to a company that didn't exist before receiving the funds

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Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. I'm here with Kyle Olson today, and we are going to talk government corruption. And the reason I want to talk about government corruption is Kyle does a lot here in the state of Michigan. He has been following this story that I think everybody will find fascinating. It's about Gretchen Whitmer. She is obviously one of the top contenders for president in 2028, but she is being targeted by another Democrat in the state. And I guess I

I don't know if targeting is the right word. I'm just surprised that the attorney general in the state of Michigan, who is a hardcore Dem, is investigating what she did. But it's pretty serious what she's found out, which I think is fascinating. Yeah. So the big the big question is, should government be using taxpayer dollars, whether it's Michigan or anywhere else?

using taxpayer dollars to give to companies to quote unquote create jobs. And a number of states have been doing this for actually, you know, a pretty long time. And so what we have been doing at the Midwesterner is really looking at, well, what is Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, actually doing? What companies is she giving these dollars to? What sort of jobs are actually being created and all of that sort of thing?

And this really, I think it's exemplified in this story that's come out. Well, really, it came out a few months ago, but it's really sort of coming to a head now where the MEDC, which is the Michigan Economic Development Corporation, which is the entity that, you know,

gets the taxpayer dollars and then decides who they're going to give the money to people who are either bringing a company here or, I mean, you guys have heard us talk about Goshen on here before, all of these companies that get lured into the state of Michigan. I will say, I want to stop you because you said a lot of states do it. States do it effectively. Michigan has not had a

any of these contracts become effective. I mean, we had over the last six years of these agreements, I think they were supposed to create 60,000 jobs. That was what was promised. And it ended up being 15,000 jobs. I think they're like really pushing it at coming up with 16,000 or 15,000

But the interesting thing about this one is this woman is creating a company that's going to be an incubator company that's going to create multiple different companies. But the news, it was really the Detroit News that first reported on this, right? So the story is a woman named Faye Bay Doon, who is a Democrat donor, major donor, and is on the MEDC executive board.

She got a $20 million grant in 2023. So she's deciding who gets the grant. Correct. And she got the grant. This is the corruption of the whole situation. So she gets a $20 million grant to a business. She's supposed to be out helping businesses start and all of that. But the thing is, she got the $20 million grant committed in the state budget, and then she opened the company.

So the company was not even a thing until she got the money. So she gets the money. It's $20 million total. She receives $10 million of it. She spent about $4,500 on a coffee machine, which a lot of people are, you know, have been really sort of freaking out about. She spent, you know, tens of thousands of dollars on plane tickets. A lot of things that you just would sort of say, why do you need that office equipment and office furniture?

Why do you need that in order for other companies to create jobs? So then what happens is there's questions are being asked about where did the rest of the money go? There was a there was a bill that was introduced at the end of 2024 to try and claw back some of the $10 million. But of course, you know, the legislature is not going to pass that. So that didn't actually pass.

The governor doesn't really want to do anything, doesn't want to try and get those dollars back because then I think she then has to admit that this whole thing is a failure. Dana Nessel, the Democrat attorney general who was elected in 2018, the same time Gretchen Whitmer was,

attempts, she launches an investigation into Faye Badoon and this company and this, where did the money go? Which I just want to say, I feel like in the past, this would not have happened with Dana Nessel because there was this weird, they called it like the trifecta. They were all protecting each other. It was Gretchen Whitmer, Jocelyn Benson, Dana Nessel, the three attorney general, secretary of state, governor. They were all protecting each other.

Now, in February, there was a state of the state address from Gretchen Whitmer, and I was able to attend and I was right up front. So I got to see this strange dynamic happening. And remember, at that point, Gretchen Whitmer is kind of flirting with the idea of speaking to Donald Trump.

She hasn't she hasn't at this point in February been in the Oval Office yet with the, you know, famous folder in front of her face moment. But she has said that she would talk to him. She would negotiate with him. There were some messages coming out from the attorney general's ex-partner.

page saying, like, we don't negotiate with people like this. And really, it was it was veiled, but it was a tax against Gretchen Whitmer. But that night that I'm in the state of the state address, I'm noticing the Democrats are clapping for Gretchen Whitmer and they're all standing when she says something that they like.

But Dana Nessel never claps. Dana Nessel never stands. She sits there with her lips pursed like she is unhappy. And in that moment, people, even in the room, people started kind of like muttering, is there a little bit of a fight here? But this is now, I mean, this could be a legal problem for Gretchen Whitmer. Right. So the history of Gretchen Whitmer is that she

Her goal, she has said publicly, her goal was to work for the Michigan State football team. That's what she wanted to do. I don't know what, but that's when she was young. Yes. And her father said her father, who was involved in Michigan politics, said, no, you should go into government.

So she was elected state representative, then state senator. Then she was appointed the Ingham County, which is where Lansing is, Ingham County prosecutor. And then she resigned and then ran for governor. And it was sort of this the way what my point here is that it was sort of a progression, a natural sort of political progression. And so the next logical thing for her to do was to run for governor.

And she's not, I mean, she's partisan, but she's not an ideologue, I don't think. I think she's whatever, whichever way the wind blows, whichever way the money blows, that's where Gretchen Whitmer goes. Dana Nessel, she is a true part, I mean, she is an activist. She's always wanted to be an activist. I think she, the closest she's come to being interested in football was the day she got drunk and got wheeled out of football. Right, she did.

She didn't even watch it. Right. And so, yes, you're right. Dana Nessel is a very different kind of person. She is an ideologue. She's an activist. She has weaponized the attorney general's office against Trump electors and Republican fundraisers and all of that. But kind of the beauty of this is she also indicted Rick Snyder.

And really, Gretchen Whitmer's kind of, you know, Gretchen Whitmer wanted that to happen. So now this could really backfire because she taught the attorney general, you can indict the governor. Right.

Yes. And she indicted Rick Snyder, the former governor, right after. If you go back and you look at the chronology of all of this, when Joe Biden was declared the winner of the 2020 election, Rick Snyder, who was one of the Republicans for Biden, don't forget. Don't forget.

And Gretchen Whitmer put out a joint statement basically calling for this is a time for healing. And basically, you know, we're getting rid of Trump. And so what does Gretchen Whitmer and Dana Nessel do? They turn around and they indict Rick Snyder. So Dana Nessel, she's a very different person.

You know, Gretchen Whitmer is, she's a partier and that, you know, she went to Michigan State and that was sort of her thing. Where Dana Nessel's a, she's out, I think Dana Nessel's out for blood, Republican blood. And so then Trump gets reelected. Whitmer is addicted to federal money. She wants to cozy up to Trump to try and get federal money for the projects that she wants.

But then you've got Dana Nessel, who is out for blood.

And she's saying... I mean, she cannot even stand a conversation with him. But having that moment, I think that she probably threw up in her mouth and her hair on her chest curled the day that she saw Gretchen Whitmer go snuggle Donald Trump on the tarmac. I mean, I think she probably lost. And that was like a moment where she's on the warpath now. Because I think that's... Maybe I'm wrong, but it appears that that's how she operates because she is a true believer in the

Yes, she's she's filed or has has joined multiple lawsuits against the Trump administration. She's, you know, used a lot of the, you know, fascist rhetoric and authority. I think I just said one where she joined one.

Just like today about making sure illegal immigrants have health care. Yeah, have Medicaid. Yes, they still have access to Medicaid. And the Midwesterner has a story about that. You can find it at themidwesterner.news. But so they are very different people. And so the reason all of this matters is because.

Dana Nessel has launched an investigation into this potential misuse of public money. So she launches the investigation. She tries to get the MEDC to work with her, provide documents, all of that sort of thing. Apparently, they weren't doing that. So it got so crazy that

that when Gretchen Whitmer, the other thing that she's been doing is she's not going to Ohio or Illinois or Indiana or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. She's not going to neighboring states to try and recruit businesses. She's going to the Middle East. She's going to Europe. And so she was on a trip to Australia with the president of the MEDC. So they're literally on the other side of the world.

And Dana Nessel raids the MEDC. Raids it. And with a warrant for documents. And apparently, according to reporting, she specifically wanted the cell phone of Quentin Messer, who is the president of the MEDC, who was in Australia with the governor. And then additional reporting came

showed that the governor's staff now is being represented by criminal attorneys.

And they apparently were doing some sort of coordination or discussion with Faye Badoon while this investigation was going on. And so it's... The governor's office was coordinating with the woman who is being investigated for getting state taxpayer money and then potentially misusing that money. And people in the Whitmer inner circle. I mean, these are not low-level staffers that are sort of...

you know, going rogue. These are people in the inner, in the inner circle of the governor. So this is now all unfolding. The MEDC is trying to block the, you know, the use of the, of the materials that were obtained after the raid. And, but the big picture, you know, is

Is this how government should be operating? Should government be giving $20 million of our hard-earned money to a company that didn't exist when they gave the money and then they don't follow where it goes? Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon Podcast.

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Remember when Stacey Abrams got the money from Joe Biden? What was it? Two billion dollars there? I think it was two billion dollars that she got. And this was before she ever had an organization to they had ever only ever brought in like one hundred and fifty dollars. And this was to a nonprofit that she gets two billion dollars and they say she has to spend it in 30 days.

And this happens, we don't even find this out until Trump is in office, but this is the normal procedure for Democrats, folks. They are taking your money. When you saw all of the Doge stuff with USAID and you heard about the NGOs, this is how this stuff works.

And I'm glad that this is being exposed with Gretchen Whitmer because I do think she would move on and she would take that. So you've got Gretchen Whitmer on one hand, who is this big contender for 28, who is taking this money. And I just also want to note, she's gone to Spain. She's gone to Japan. She's gone to Australia. Where else did she go? The UK and Ireland. The UK and Ireland. And she has not brought back a lick of business.

That's the guise that she goes under. She pretends she's going for that reason. She's actually going because I believe that she'll use this in her

presidential run. I have foreign policy experience. I've dealt with all these people. I've met with all these leaders over there. And suddenly we will see videos of her with leaders and her over with these business leaders as well. But she's never done any good over there for the state of Michigan. You've got that going on on one hand. You still have this situation in New York

So I would say that Dana Nessel in Michigan aligns more with the socialist arm of the Democrat Party. So you're going to have that clash. And where does Gretchen Whitmer stand on Mondani over in New York City and what he's doing, which is at this point, he's going even more extreme. He's just going to take all the taxpayer money. He's going to shut down the businesses. He's going, he has really, the way he has spoken has been full communism. But I would say,

I mean, how much different is this situation? Because you're taking taxpayer money, you're giving it to a person who doesn't have a business, and then she's going to organize what businesses can be in business in the state of Michigan. It's not too far off from that. Well, it's yes. And there is zero accountability. Right. Not to give Dana Nessel credit, but at least she is...

at least the appearance, there's the appearance that she's trying to bring some accountability to the situation. Because what happens is, I mean, you and I have talked about Goshen and there's other companies that have received tens and hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.

And then when it doesn't actually come to be or they get the money, you know, the Midwesterner had a story about LG, which is a battery maker, got $189 million from Michigan taxpayers to create EV, to build EV batteries. Now, should Michigan taxpayers be paying for that? I think no. But setting that aside, that was the deal.

was they were going to build EV batteries. Well, then they decide, no, we're not going to build EV batteries because nobody's buying EVs. So we're going to create different kinds of batteries. Okay, so you're not living up to the terms of the agreement.

But does that mean Gretchen Whitmer is going to ask for the $189 million back? No, of course not. And the question is, how many jobs would that have produced? Because we're not getting any new jobs. So we don't ever get the money back. 180, how much? $189 million. $189 million. I mean, we're talking about massive amounts of money. That reminds me of this situation in New York where

They're so used to taking this money and giving it and they believe that it's all just being handed out. Now, she is, Whitmer is actually handing out money. This clown in New York thought that he could take a tax break grocery stores are getting and use that money that doesn't actually exist and create government owned grocery stores. He has no idea how economics works. He has a degree in African studies.

That's what he has a degree in. And this guy also created, he co-founded the, what is it? Students for...

Palestine? Yes. For justice in Palestine, students for justice in Palestine. He graduated from college in 2014. I think most of us who have been watching this movement of late have felt like this is new. This is going to come in in the last few years and then really took off after October 7th.

These these organizations have been grooming these people for years. I'm using your term because you're right. They have been grooming these people for years. And I believe that people like Dana Nessel are a part of these activist groups. They go to these free Palestine protests and they're out there on the streets with these people and they get funded publicly.

well-funded to get into office and change the entire economic system of this country. And I do think that you're seeing it happen in New York right now because people believe if you can change the economic system that the city of New York runs on, which is the most powerful city in the world, I mean, outside of, I guess you could say, Washington, D.C. has more power, the financial power that

that New York City has, if you can change that economic system, you can take down the globe in a really messed up way. Right. And so to me, the fundamental question of that New York City mayor's race is, can a personality who speaks well, who

You know, I guess I guess looks good on camera. I don't know. I'll leave that for others to decide. I mean, I think he's charming. He is. But he's engaging. And can that and, you know, he's he's got a lot of rhetoric that I think a lot of people who are struggling find appealing.

And so can that sort of personality, who is, I think, totally bankrupt on policy, and he's got policy that's never been tried anywhere, certainly in America, but not anywhere else. But he's also got... Is that going to win? He's got really dangerous policy. I know we just talked about this guy, but I feel like there's more that we're uncovering every day about who Zoran Mondami is and what he really wants to do.

We've now we're learning that he wants to decriminalize sex work. And I want to talk about this because all the women out there who voted for this guy, what do you think that means? What do you think decriminalizing sex work work means? It's not like.

there's some glorified lifestyle there. These are women who we were on Clay and Buck yesterday. We had Yako Boyans on. He's on the program a lot. You've heard him talk about sex trafficking. He made such a great point when he was like, this is legalized slavery. You would put women in this situation. And you've made the point that he voted against a ban on revenge porn.

Explain that, because there was a ban there. They were expanding it. But he was one of only three people to vote against that. Right. So New York State banned revenge porn in 2019. Matt Downing was not there, so obviously he wouldn't have voted on that. But then in 2023, there was a bill to expand it and sort of, you know, clean up the language because technology is changing and all of that.

And three members of the state assembly voted against it. And he was one of them. And I think it's somebody needs to ask him, why would you vote against that? Why do you want to decriminalize sex work? And why do you want revenge porn to be available? Because I asked that question because those two things in my mind as a woman go together because we know these men who pimp women out, they use this.

to keep them in control. They use this revenge porn to keep them in control and say, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to send this to someone. So, and I'm going to do this, especially young girls, they get them, they lure them in with promises of gifts, and we're going to keep the secret. We won't tell your family. And then they control them, especially in certain cultures. You can't have your parents find something like this out.

So you control women this way. This guy, in my opinion, is the most dangerous person out there for women. Yet there, you've got young women out there. Get that Cynthia Nixon. My gosh, here's a woman who is a lesbian woman who obviously I think she even has a daughter. Maybe she has a trans child. I can't remember, but.

You are out there marching in the streets with someone who is anti-woman. There's nothing pro-woman about those two stances. No. And so it's really, it's going to be a time of choosing for New York City. And do you want to hire someone who has never run an organization before, who has very little life experience, has not lived the lifestyle of a lot of the people he claims to represent?

And, and his, his, I mean, he's trading on theories and let's, you know, let's, for some reason he wants to create, you mentioned it, these government owned grocery stores, one per borough, which I think most people would say one per borough. What difference is that going to make? But it's just the beginning. It's just getting the foot in the door. That's how you start it. That's, that's the...

That's how they trick people. And it's just one per borough. This is a great experiment. And everything he's doing is an experiment. It's not an experiment from the standpoint that we've never seen it. We've seen it in other countries. I mean, socialism has killed hundreds of thousands of people.

And we see on CNN, they're like, he's not a communist. He's a socialist. Now you have Democrats that are defending, oh, this isn't communism. This is socialism. Well, who cares? Why are you defending it at all? I mean, right now the Democrat party is in total chaos. You've got that. You have the situation with Whitmer. We see today, there's this news out that

Governor Walz has a guy who is a convicted sex offender, and he's been appointed to a state auditing job. He is a he's not only a sex offender, he raped a woman. He also is a guy who overstayed his visa. He was getting kicked out. He's not technically supposed to be here.

But Walls gives him a job. I mean, we talked about we also yesterday we talked about the fact that we're like celebrating that men can't be in women's sports. I look at the fact that we are trying to give government jobs in education, auditing education to sex offenders. You've got Whitmer taking taxpayer money and giving it to women.

her friends who are then misusing it potentially. You've got this guy in New York who wants to have women be sex slaves. I mean, I can't think of anything worse than that. And this is the Democrat Party today. These are their options and they're defending it. And then we have

Secretary McMahon, who comes out and she's like, we're going to protect women in men's sports. And I almost feel silly that we are all cheering about this because 10 years ago, if anybody had told us any of these things that we just talked about, we would go, that is bonkers. No way. Right. Yeah, you're right. The idea that we're saying that the government has to decide that women, that men should not be in women's sports. The fact that that is even a thing.

It shows how far we've gone. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tudor Dixon podcast.

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Here you have universities that now have to define men and women using biology. It's like, I just can't. We're like, thank goodness we have to use biology now. Wait a minute. Remember for the last five years has been science, not science. This is science. I'm science. Fauci is science. What is science? They can't even tell us. But now we're like, you must actually use science. And the rest of the world, the common sense lovers of the world are like, yay.

Thank you for using science. But this shows too, I think how, how,

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And that's why we have to stay. That's why we keep talking. That's why we keep doing this. That's why we keep fighting back against this. And I will say that we are headed into an amazing holiday tomorrow. You talked about it yesterday on Clay and Buck, that if we didn't have Independence Day, what would the world look like? And this is the last bastion of hope, I believe. The United States, we are the place that has to keep fighting for freedom. We have to keep fighting for democracy.

actual democracy, what our founding fathers fought for. We are still here with that same attitude to keep doing this. And we also celebrate something else on that day. We celebrate Kyle's birthday. He is a true patriot being born on Independence Day. So happy birthday. Thank you. Absolutely. Do you have anything you want to add about Independence Day? I'm just, I'm glad it's a day.

Wow. All right. That was deep. You were a lot deeper on Clay and Buck, I thought you would say. Well, I'll repeat what I said. I think July 4th, 1776 was one of the most consequential days in the history of the world. Because if that day didn't happen, think about how different... We can't even envision how the world would be a different place. And that is why when you said that, it struck me so hard because I think that...

We take what we have for granted. And we sometimes joke when we see this socialist attitude and some of these radical ideas come to the United States. And in the past, I think we've had the luxury of joking about it because we've always held it at bay. What we're seeing in New York now has changed that. And this is our own moment to defend our democracy and defend what America is. And so

Tomorrow we go out and celebrate and we have fireworks and we have our picnics and we spend time with family. But then Monday we'll be right back here making sure that we continue to defend our democracy. So thank you. Thank you for joining me today. Thank you.

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