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Is ICE Only Arresting Criminal Migrants?

2025/1/30
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Jane Koston: 我报道了川普政府的最新移民政策,包括签署Laken Riley法案,该法案要求拘留所有被指控犯罪的无证移民,以及计划将移民送往关塔那摩湾拘留中心的计划。自就职以来,ICE已经进行了数千次逮捕,并且实施了新的配额制度,每天要求逮捕1200到1500人。这些行动引起了公众的恐惧和担忧,尤其是在那些依赖无证劳工的社区。 我采访了华尔街日报的移民政策记者Michelle Hackman,她解释说ICE主要针对有犯罪记录的人,但政府对“罪犯”的定义含糊不清,导致人们对政府行动的真实目标感到困惑。她还指出,被捕并不意味着自动驱逐出境,ICE需要评估每个个案的可驱逐性。 白宫新闻秘书Caroline Leavitt的声明进一步加剧了这种混乱,她声称所有被捕者都被视为罪犯,因为他们非法违反了美国的法律。Hackman认为,川普政府最初将驱逐范围缩小到“最坏的人”,但由于逮捕人数不足,又开始将所有非法入境者都定义为罪犯。 关塔那摩湾计划的可行性也存在疑问,虽然关塔那摩湾历史上曾用作移民拘留中心,但将3万名移民送往那里是一个巨大的挑战。总的来说,川普政府的移民政策正在给包括无证移民在内的社区带来恐惧和不确定性,其影响远不止于数字本身。 Michelle Hackman: 我作为华尔街日报的记者,关注美国移民政策。根据我的了解,ICE主要针对的是有犯罪记录的无证移民,这些目标名单大多是在川普政府上任之前就已建立的。被捕并不意味着自动驱逐出境,ICE需要确定被捕者是否可被驱逐。许多人最终会被释放,因为他们没有最终的驱逐令,或者他们的祖国拒绝接收他们。 川普政府对“罪犯”的定义含糊不清,最初他们说要针对“最坏的人”,但后来由于逮捕人数没有达到预期,他们又开始将所有非法入境者都定义为罪犯。这导致了人们对政府行动的真实目标感到困惑。 ICE的逮捕配额制度也引发了担忧,这可能会导致对无辜者的错误逮捕。此外,川普政府的行动速度加快,但其本质并没有发生显著变化。他们试图通过在电视上展示ICE探员来掩盖这一点。 川普政府的政策也可能对依赖无证劳工的农场和企业产生负面影响。虽然政府公开表示不会歧视,但私下里可能考虑到经济影响,不会大规模突袭企业。总的来说,川普政府的移民政策正在给包括无证移民在内的社区带来恐惧和不确定性。 Caroline Leavitt: 我作为白宫新闻秘书,声明所有被捕的无证移民都被视为罪犯,因为他们非法违反了美国的法律。政府的行动旨在打击非法移民,维护国家安全。

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The Trump administration's immigration raids raise concerns. While ICE claims to target criminals, the broad definition and quotas create fear and uncertainty within communities. The interview with Michelle Hackman from the Wall Street Journal provides insights into the situation.
  • ICE raids have resulted in thousands of arrests since Inauguration Day.
  • ICE is using pre-existing target lists, primarily focusing on those with criminal histories.
  • The administration's definition of "criminal" is broad, causing confusion.
  • Quotas for arrests raise concerns about quantity over quality.
  • The raids are causing fear and economic hardship in affected communities.

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President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed the Laken Riley Act, a new law that requires law enforcement to detain undocumented immigrants who are accused – not convicted – of committing a crime. During the signing ceremony, Trump also announced his intent to sign an executive order to send migrants to a detention facility at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. It all comes amid a very public push by the administration to show Americans it's very serious about cracking down on illegal immigration, even as the details remain a little opaque. Michelle Hackman, a reporter covering immigration for The Wall Street Journal, breaks down what's actually happening.

And in headlines: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. flails in his first confirmation hearing to be the next health secretary, The Trump administration walks back its order to freeze federal funds for grants and loans… maybe? And former Sen. Bob Menendez was sentenced to 11 years in federal prison.

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