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This Group Chat Should Have Been An Email feat. Sen. Mark Warner

2025/3/26
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马克·华纳参议员：政府官员在Signal群聊中讨论军事行动计划，这种行为令人难以置信，并且可能泄露机密信息给外国势力。政府官员对机密信息的处理方式非常草率，这是一种令人不安的模式，必须查明真相。图尔西·加巴德对是否参与该群聊的闪烁其词，表明政府存在掩盖行为。政府官员不愿承认错误，并试图淡化事件的严重性，这是一种傲慢和掩盖行为。政府官员处理机密信息的方式存在严重后果，并且加巴德此前的言论与她的行为相矛盾。政府官员在Signal群聊中讨论战争计划的行为非常草率，并且应该追究相关人员的责任。 亚历克斯·沃德：在Signal上分享机密信息非常糟糕，因为它违反了安全协议，并且可能被外国对手获取。尽管在Signal上分享机密信息很糟糕，但这次事件的影响相对有限，因为军事行动似乎没有受到影响。Signal群聊最初的目的是为了协调不同部门之间的沟通，但在副总统表达反对意见后，变成了政策讨论。使用Signal而不是电子邮件分享信息，与之前关于希拉里·克林顿使用私人邮箱的争议形成对比，这具有讽刺意味。政府官员似乎在个人手机上分享了机密信息，这违反了政府的规定和程序。对机密信息的处理方式存在双重标准，高级官员可能会受到轻微处罚，而低级别官员则可能面临更严重的处罚。尽管共和党人私下对特朗普政府的国家安全团队感到愤怒，但他们不太可能对此事进行调查。Signal群聊中的对话揭示了特朗普政府内部官员之间在外交政策上的分歧。政府官员在Signal上进行机密对话的行为令人震惊，他们本应该使用安全的沟通渠道。如果共和党希望，他们可以轻描淡写地处理此事，因为他们控制着国会。

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The Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, involving Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe, turned controversial due to their alleged involvement in a group chat sharing classified military information on Signal.
  • Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe were questioned about their involvement in a Signal group chat sharing sensitive military information.
  • Senators, including Mark Warner, were skeptical about the claims that no classified information was shared.
  • The hearing highlighted the potential security risks of discussing sensitive information on unsecured platforms.

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe were on Capitol Hill Tuesday for what was supposed to be a routine annual hearing in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Except it ended up being anything but routine, coming one day after The Atlantic published a damning report about how top Trump officials shared imminent battle plans in a private group chat on Signal. President Donald Trump and other top White House officials spent the day insisting no classified information was shared in that group chat. Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, explains why their claims are hard to believe.

And later in the show, Wall Street Journal National Security reporter Alex Ward talks about why Signal-gate is such a big deal.

And in headlines: Russia and Ukraine agree to a partial ceasefire, the Department of Homeland Security said it has stopped processing some Green Card applications, and some Florida lawmakers have a solution to fill jobs vacated by deported migrants: child labor!

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