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What Happens If the U.S. Sells Out Ukraine

2025/2/20
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Julia Ioffe
泽连斯基
特朗普
美国企业家、政治人物及媒体名人,曾任第45任和第47任美国总统。
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特朗普:我认为乌克兰应该为战争负责,这场战争本不该开始。泽连斯基是一个独裁者,拒绝举行选举,并且诱导美国花费巨资参与一场无法取胜的战争。俄罗斯是潜在盟友,应该优先与之进行谈判,以结束战争。 泽连斯基:特朗普被错误信息蒙蔽,美国的做法对俄罗斯有利。特朗普政府的行为对乌克兰及其人民造成了负面影响。 Julia Ioffe:美国的新外交政策是与普京、欧尔班等右翼领导人结盟,而牺牲乌克兰等传统盟友的利益。美国与俄罗斯直接谈判,牺牲乌克兰的利益,对美国来说没有好处,反而可能让俄罗斯获得更多利益。普京认为美国软弱、胆小、反复无常,只被金钱驱动。如果乌克兰被俄罗斯征服,可能导致类似阿富汗的局势,乌克兰有游击战的历史,即使被俄罗斯征服,也会进行抵抗。俄罗斯对乌克兰的占领将导致残酷的镇压和暴行。泽连斯基公开批评特朗普,冒着激怒特朗普及其支持者的风险,但也得到了乌克兰人民的支持。如果特朗普出卖乌克兰,俄罗斯可能会进一步扩张,这将对普京和欧洲产生重大影响。普京的目标是完全控制乌克兰,建立傀儡政权。出卖乌克兰将导致欧洲进一步不稳定,并可能导致北约解体。出卖乌克兰将向世界传递一个信号:美国是一个不可靠的盟友。特朗普称泽连斯基为独裁者,这反映了其对选举的双重标准,并可能预示着美国国内政治的未来走向。普京和欧尔班等右翼领导人证明,可以通过操纵选举来维持权力,而无需取消选举。通过操纵选举,可以维持权力,并营造出民主的表象。 Jane Koston:主持讨论,并对嘉宾观点进行总结和引导。

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President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy traded public barbs on Wednesday, one day after top White House and Russian officials met in Saudi Arabia to discuss ways to end the war in Ukraine. Zelenskyy said Trump is living in a 'web of disinformation,' while Trump falsely accused Zelenskyy of being a 'dictator without elections.' With the three-year anniversary of Russia's invasion of its neighbor coming up next week, the Trump administration's decision to sideline Ukraine and Europe in favor of direct talks with Russia underscores the ways the president is throwing traditional U.S. alliances out the window. Julia Ioffe, Washington correspondent at Puck News and a long-time observer of Russian politics, explains what the U.S. selling out Ukraine could mean for the world order.

And in headlines: A top DOJ officials defended the decision to drop corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams in court, Trump signed an executive order to expand his control over independent regulatory agencies, and Civil Rights groups sues the Trump Administration over its anti-DEI and anti-trans actions.

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