No Spin News - Weekend Edition - June 28, 2025
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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition.

Joining us now from North Carolina is the purveyor, BernardGoldberg.com. And I checked that out and I am very busy. BernardGoldberg.com. I check in. So you say you support the action, but you're not a big Trump fan. So explain that to me.

It's not that I'm not a big Trump fan. My basis, I'm an opinion journalist now. But like you, I was a hard news journalist for a long time. So I come to my conclusions based on facts. So sometimes I agree with Donald Trump, sometimes I don't. In this case, I'm totally with President Trump. He did the right thing. Iran was never going to voluntarily

give up their nuclear program. For decades, they strung one president after another, they strung them along and they pretended that diplomacy was going to lead to Iran, the mullahs, giving up their nuclear dreams and passions. They made one big mistake, Bill. They assumed Donald Trump was like all the other presidents they were dealing with.

Donald Trump was different from all the others, and he showed them how different he was on Saturday night. I'm totally with him on this. So it doesn't have anything to do with Israel and you're Jewish, right? No, it's it. I'll tell you what it has to. No, it doesn't. But I'll tell you what it does have to do with.

It has to do with risks being weighed against other risks. So is there a risk that Iran will do something stupid? Is there a risk that they may...

widen and escalate the war? Yeah, there's a risk, of course. Like you correctly said, if anybody tells you what's coming next, don't listen to them. They don't know what they're talking about. But against that risk, Bill, you have to weigh the risk of a country run by zealot Islamist clerics having a nuclear weapon. And they're haters. And they're haters and killers.

And I'm not taking the risk of them having a weapon like that. They knew about October 7th. They knew that Hamas was going to go over and slaughter those people in the kibbutz. Iran knew. And that was really, I think, what put Trump over the line.

Yeah, the nuke thing, obviously, you can't allow a rogue regime that is on the record as we're going to kill every Jew we can and we're going to kill Americans too, to have a bomb that they might be able to disassemble and give to a terrorist and set it off someplace. Now, you and I are simpatico and I think we've made a very logical case so far. We're 19 minutes into this broadcast.

But then you have the isolationists in the Republican Party who they don't care whether Iran has a nuclear weapon or not. That's kind of strange, don't you think? I think it's immoral. I think it's immoral. I find it interesting that the isolationist wing of the Republican Party sounds a lot like the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. But beyond that, how is it moral to say that?

Well, we don't really, they won't put it in these words. I want to be fair to them. They won't say we don't care that they have a nuclear weapon. As a matter of fact, they'll say we don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. But if you're going to be an isolationist, then what you're really saying, what it really comes down to is if they use it against Israel and kills 10 million Jews, Hitler only got 6 million.

Not our problem. America first, not our problem. But it is our problem because, look, that's just such a sophomoric point of view. Just on its face, don't take the Israeli Jew thing out. So if you have a nuclear weapon that goes off on this planet anywhere, you set civilization back 10 years. Everybody is affected. Everybody.

So this gets back to my point about risk versus risk. They only talk about the risk of a wider war. Fair enough. That is a concern. But they don't talk about the risk that you just talked about and that I talked about in the column that's on my website. They don't talk about the risk of Ayatollah, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini having a nuclear weapon. How could you not

You have to stop that. You have to stop that. And that's what Donald Trump did. And I'll criticize him when I think he does something that's not in his or our best interest. But I'm going to praise him when he does the right thing. And this time he did the right thing. I'm trying to get inside of mine and I will do this with bowling tomorrow. Eric Bowling will be on, as I mentioned, of these isolationists because they're not dumb people.

Rand Paul is not a dumb person. Neither is Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon. They're not. But I think it's a stubbornness now that's set in. And they get an awful lot of attention doing this as well. I think there's an attention factor here.

Well, I understand their concern. It's not just words, it's a philosophy. And the philosophy is we don't want to get involved in other people's problems. Other people's problems. As if the United States is a bystander in all of this. And Iraq is weighing on all of this too.

You know, it's we tried to change the landscape of the Mideast once. And I don't think that turned out too well. No, but it's a different situation than Iraq. That's hanging over this whole discussion. They're using that to make a false equivalency. I mean, it's like the Panama invasion compared to Iraq.

World War Two, you know, Iraq. And you know why it's an comparison? I'll tell you why. And you know why? Because we're dealing with a nuclear bomb right now. Right. It's so much more intense. And the Iraq situation was a miscalculation.

I mean, those people say, oh, the government lied to us about they knew that Saddam didn't have that. That is so much garbage. Saddam told his generals, all right, that he had the weapons because he wanted to intimidate those generals. And that's what The New York Times reported. And that's why it got out of control. Now, final question for you. When you're when we're looking at the landscape here, I picked out a few people.

And I don't like to do this. In my younger days, I did it more. But now I'm watching people attack other people personally for money. And this is what they do on social media. They attack people personally. They get more eyeballs and they can sell ads. It's about money. That's why they're doing it.

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But when you said he's a blanking hypocrite, what word did you mean when you said blanking? I don't want to shock you. I don't want to shock your sensibilities, Goldberg. Since you worked in a CBS newsroom for like 50 years, you've heard the real word before. Here's the thing that gets me about Chuck Schumer. He had a perfect score on his SATs.

before he went to Harvard. He's a bright guy. Yeah. What a wasted use of intellect to become a political hack. That's my take on Chuck Schumer. I sit there and I, you know, does he think that guys like me are not going to trace him back to what he did when Obama dropped the bombs on Libya? And you have a totally different position? And then when you ask him about it, he'll never do an interview.

he'll never ever do you know answer those questions look ocasio-cortez i said this on uh piers morgan i went on his show tonight uh and i said look i don't want to be uncharitable to a fellow terrier so i have a degree from boston university as well but she's simply not smart enough to hold the job as a congressperson she's just not smart enough

You don't have to be that smart. No, but she's not smart even at your low bar. Okay. She doesn't even reach your low bar. That's the frame of reference that that woman has. Zero. And I had to say it to put it in some kind of perspective. Like for me to pick on her would be, you know, like kicking a little cocker spaniel. It's not fair. Schumer, none of the matter.

I know how much you dislike cliches, and so do I. I dislike them as much as you do, but here's one. Donald Trump could find a cure for cancer, and she'd be opposed to Donald Trump for finding a cure for cancer. So let's not take her that seriously. No, I agree with that, and that's why I didn't. But the other guy from Illinois...

But they both should be brought up in front of this. You don't object to that, right? How the Ethics Committee, while we have people in the field, you're doing it. So I don't I think no matter what your political philosophy, you don't do something that jeopardizes American military forces while they're in the midst of an operation. I don't do that. I you know, it's just almost impossible.

It's impossible to believe that these people are that stupid that they would do it. They didn't think about it. They just want to run out there and pander their far left base. All right. The website is bernardgoldberg.com. It's like billoreilly.com, except my name is Irish and Goldberg is Jewish. It's just put the both names in and then you'll get two good websites. Appreciate it, Bernie. Thanks very much. Thanks, Bill.

You're listening to the No Spin News Weekend Edition. Now, the opposition to Trump's Iranian decision didn't always come from the left. There were some conservative people who didn't like it, and there are isolationist people. One of them is Eric Bolling, I think. I think it because I can't quite make out.

Bowling's point of view. Roll the tape. Let's be honest. So MAGA kind of has always believed that Trump was not going to be involved in foreign wars. This is a bit of a, well, a certain faction of MAGA believes that this is a tough pill to swallow, that we're actually bombing another country, especially because could it lead to World War III? Okay, so joining us now is the effervescent

Eric Bolling from West Palm Beach, where he's tanned, locked and loaded. He does a program. And never banal. And never banal for the... And thank God. Thank God for that. He does a program, Bolling on Real America's Voice. So, Bolling, are you for or against the bombing? Just yes or no? Yes, I'm for or against the bombing. Let me explain. If I may, I was against the bombing because I hate the idea of an American pilot saying,

In harm's way. OK, so you at first at first you were against it. And I and and yeah, and in the further explain that I was against it because we had complete or not. We I'm sorry. I correct myself because Trump did the same thing prior to the bombing. Israel had complete control of the airspace over Tehran, over the whole country of Iran.

They were getting things done. I loved what they were doing. They were relentless. People were saying, okay, you know, you made your point in Israel. No, no, no. They were going to finish the job. Now, did they have the 200 mile into the side of the mountain bunker busters? They didn't at the time. And then my side or this side of my brain would say, okay, well, sell it to them. Sell Israel the bunker buster bomb. Sell them in the mop, MOP. Train a pilot. I don't care if it takes a month. Train the pilot how to fly it.

How's this? Get a dual citizen, Israeli-American pilot to fly it over, drop the bomb, and we wouldn't have our fingerprints on it. None of that would ever happen in any way at all because we are the only people in the world that have that technology. We're going to hand it off to Israel. And there's not going to be any pilots that are not under the supervision of the Pentagon. That's never, ever going to happen.

Now that the bombing has happened. Yes, yes. Okay? Now I look back at so far and we're, what, 36 hours out, and it looks like a surgical strike that was precision. As Pete Hegseth tells us, it obliterated the nuclear capabilities. We all know that. Are you for it or against it now? I don't know.

If it goes no further, Bill, I'm absolutely for it. And I think it's going to go no further because of what Trump said this morning before getting on Air Force One, Marine One, and saying Israel and Iran, they don't know what the F they're doing, use the word. And I think he told the world that was one and done and we're done. And it was magical. It was almost spiritual. I think back to the day Trump was shot in the ear in Butler, Pennsylvania. Bill, just bear with me one second.

One inch either way. Now, I'm not just saying one inch towards his head would have killed the would-be next president, but one inch away from his ear. And yes, it would have been an assassination attempt. It wouldn't have the massive implications it does. But if you believe in God, if you believe in a higher power, if you believe in the spirit, whatever you believe in, there's a reason he got hit in the ear and not taken out and not missed him completely. And this may be the reason because what he did in the last 36 hours made the world a safer place. Okay.

So now you've evolved on that. But you're still essentially an isolationist and you don't support U.S. funding Zelensky in Ukraine. Or am I wrong on that? No, you're 100 percent right. You're 100 percent. You don't want any money going to Ukraine, right?

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Correct. Okay. So if we pull out back and Putin takes the whole country, which is what he wants to do, then you know China goes to Taiwan, takes that. Is that okay with you? I mean...

Is it okay? I think a smart president would beef up our chip capacity, chip producing capacity in the United States, because frankly, Taiwan, the best interest to us in Taiwan is their ability to produce Silicon Valley type chips. If we can up our game with NVIDIA and the other chip makers, even Taiwan Semiconductor for that matter, I think it's none of our business if China takes it. So you let Taiwan go, you let Ukraine go.

Why would they stop then? Why wouldn't Putin then go to Moldova? Why wouldn't China then move into South Korea and help the nut in North Korea destabilize that?

So in isolation is basically saying, look, no, that that's that's it. No, you don't know. You may have have eyes on the prize with other countries in Europe. There's no guarantee of anything other than my eyewitness report when I was in China. And I can tell you the 100 percent certainty if Putin's allowed to take over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan.

That's what will happen, 100%. So if you're okay with that. How will that affect you, Bill O'Reilly? How it will affect is it causes chaos in the world. It destabilizes the entire world. When you have two. It's a chaotic world. It's a crazy world. Hey, when you have two totalitarian regimes expanding and taking over foreign countries, invading and taking over, you do not have a safe world.

You cannot hide in Idaho and worldwide economy will just be battered. And you think it's bad now, the conflicts? Where do you see the chaos that those totalitarian nations will cause if not restrain? And this is history, Bowling. And you can't argue history with me because I'll, you know, I'll dissolve you into pudding.

But it's history. All right. Isolationism has never worked, particularly in a society now that's intertwined planet wise. I don't necessarily think I'm a total isolationist. I'm a anti-war, America first human being. But America is not going to be first.

China will be first. We still are part of NATO and I've never said remove. But you don't want military action. Well, if you really don't want Putin to take Ukraine, put him in NATO and then you've opened yourself a whole. Put Putin in NATO? Putin's not going to go into NATO. Put Ukraine in NATO. Put Ukraine in NATO, allow Ukraine to enter NATO. That would give Putin justification.

If you allowed Ukraine into NATO, that would heighten Putin's justification to the Russian people, to the only people that can stop him at this point. All right, so now you have, you're an isolationist, Bannon is, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson is. How big do you think that constituency is within the Republican Party, the isolationist movement? How big is it? I think it was huge until...

Trump decided to go forth with this. Like, I think a lot of we, many of us, I call Steve Bannon the true north of the original gangster MAGA crew. He was the original don of that. And I think until Trump actually went forward in Iran with the bombing, that split people. Then they put people like Tucker. I think Tucker was more the hardliner against it and Steve and the...

It's Hannity and Mark Levin were very much, very much pushing for Trump to go ahead. But where are we now? Now, where are we in your opinion? I think there's a there's a there's a split in MAGA that needs to be 50 50 split, maybe 60 40 in favor of what Trump did, maybe 70 30 in favor of. So you don't know. All right, because I don't know either. I mean, I suspect that most Republicans.

support Trump in this action. Now, if it goes south and all of these other things happen, unintended consequences, which Iran is too weak to really make anything happen. But say something crazy did happen, then you would get a more

people more would come over to the isolationist movement. All right, last word. They're too weak to do anything aggressively. They're not too weak to fortify and finance their sleeper cells and their Houthis and their Hamas and Hezbollahs and attack us internally on a smaller basis. But that's not because of the bombing. They're already here. They just made a big bust.

They just made a big bust in Connecticut. These people are of the 12 of the two million Iranians who are in this country, which is great. Biden let them all in. You want ice around? Biden let them all in. So they're already here. They don't need an excuse. OK, they're here and they're not here to get a job at 7-Eleven. Last question for you. The.

Final word on this isn't going to be until Trump leaves office. OK, because it's not like Iran. They may go away and the army may overthrow them all. So let's hope. But Putin, he's a psychotic. I mean, you're reading my book now, I know, Confronting Evil. And when you see how psychotic that man is, that we need a strong leader now.

And there have been accusations that Trump is too soft about Putin. There have been accusations he's too soft on him. So we're never going to have a peaceful world. Last word.

I 100% agree. By the way, your book is phenomenal. This is the best book you've written. I've read, I just started, I received it yesterday. I started paging through it last night. I started reading it. I want to just have a little bit of an idea of what it's about. It's gripping. It's really, it's your best work so far. With maybe the exception of you throwing J.P. Morgan and

and in Rockefeller into the midst of the evil, with the evil people. They are evil, but we'll get back. We can talk about that another time, but it was fascinating how you take people from this man won't be alive at the end of the day or tomorrow. And then you explain why. And then you go back to the roots of the evil that's causing so much of the evil in the world. It's fantastic book. Um, where are we going from here? Uh, I,

I would say MAGA needs to get theirself together again, figure it out. And again, hopefully it's done. Hopefully we're finished. Hopefully, you know, Putin doesn't give nukes to Iran or hopefully China doesn't give nukes to Iran. They're not going to give nukes. It may escalate it and that would be bad. But I think right now Donald Trump has proven to the world

that you don't dispute Donald Trump. I dispute his ideas on tariffs, and so far I'm wrong. I didn't think we should attack Iran. As of this day, right now, today, I'm probably wrong. We won't know until the end of the year. And I hope I'm wrong forever. Okay. I'm going to do tariffs now. We won't know until the end of the year. Bowling, thanks very much, everybody. Check out Bowling, all right, on Real America's Voice. And we'll talk again soon. Thanks, everybody.

This is the No Spin News Weekend Edition. So Cassin is a congressman from Illinois, and he and Cortez, while American pilots were still in the mission, in the skies, called for the impeachment of Donald Trump on Saturday night, while they were doing that. Now, I researched it. If this had been a declared war, they, those two congresspeople, would have been charged with treason.

But you can't charge him with treason now. What you can do is bring him in front of the House Ethics Committee to explain himself. Now, as we told you yesterday, the chairman of that committee is Congressman Michael Guest from Mississippi. And when we called him, he was very disrespectful to us, doesn't care about the issue at all. That was pretty shocking to me. I have no idea why this guy doesn't care about this.

I do know that the approval rating for Congress is below 20%, and maybe that's one of the reasons why. The folks don't think that Congress is proactive in situations like this. So I booked a congressperson who is proactive, okay? Her name is Nicole Malliotakis, and she is a congresswoman from New York.

Are you as outraged as I am about Kasten and Cortes? Well, I'm outraged by the whole bunch. The fact that they not only did that on Saturday night, but that they had the nerve to try to impeach the president of the United States, 79 members, simply because he wanted to take away Iran's nuclear capability. I mean, whose side are they on? It really begs the question.

what is their intention in being in Congress when they don't want to see us being successful in this mission. And the president did not need any authorization from Congress to do what he did. These were targeted military strikes. This was a threat to the United States, the Middle East, the entire world, and it needed to be eliminated. And the fact that the president took this action, by the way, as so many presidents have done before without congressional approval,

whether it's Republican or Democrat. And President Obama was probably the one who did it the most, quite frankly. Well, look, we went over that. And the War Powers Act clearly says that all presidents have a 60 day window to use military action in protecting the United States. So that's going nowhere.

But the fact that these two would have such poor judgment, Kasten and, you know, Ocasio-Cortez, a total loon. I mean, this woman is so far out there, it's ridiculous. But there's got to be some kind of quality control in the House of Representatives. They should certainly be questioned for their role. What decision-making processes they go through that they thought this was a good idea. I'd like to know. Yes.

So you could bring an action to the ethics committee and say, I want to see him in here. And they would have to respect that action. I think if you were and you could get others to do it, too, I'm sure did that, then I'd have to haul him in.

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Yeah, well, I think that's a conversation that some of the members are going to be having with the speaker to see what our options are and how we can hold these members accountable. And it needs to be addressed because this is actually very serious what occurred here. Absolutely. You need to send a message that undermining the American military

in a time of when they're on a mission there could be killed because remember these uh pilots still in the air they're still in the air when these two loons did this and as I said if we were a declared war they'd be on charges of treason right now so when you see all of this craziness because you

know the body and most Americans watching me right now all over the world, not only Americans, they're going, is Congress really effective anymore? Or is it so tribal? Is it so divided that there are no standards left because the parties hate each other and Democrats hate Trump and Republicans hate the radicals? Is it beyond repair?

Look, I think that there is obviously a lot of division. There are a lot of factions, but we've proven to be successful in holding previous members accountable, whether it was the expulsion of George Santos or whether it be the censorship of multiple members, whether it be Ilhan Omar being removed.

removed from the Foreign Affairs Committee for her blatant anti-Semitism and anti-American actions. Those are just a couple of examples. But what I will say is that even with Bowman, look what happened with him. He pulled the fire alarm and we censored him. And then he was voted out as a result of the actions. I think it was because members of Congress amplified

what a horrible decision he made in trying to disrupt government proceedings. Thank you for giving me those examples. But we try to do what we can. I mean, it's always difficult. And obviously, when you have a slim majority as we do, it's hard to get every single Republican to cooperate. But oftentimes, we do see bipartisan support for some of these measures. Well, let's hope this thing goes to the Ethics Committee. One more question about Mandani, because you're in New York. So...

Our flagship radio station is WABC, and I'm doing a big takeout tonight about how radical this guy is and how destructive he's going to be if he does become mayor. People don't understand, and I'm going to do this right after we say goodbye to you, that only 22% of eligible voters showed up. It was 100 degrees yesterday. So he's not a lock to be mayor. But I'm going to submit to you that if this guy becomes mayor of New York City, it is over.

for the city the flight of capital out of the city will be historic I mean people are not going to corporations are going to pay 14 15 tax which is what he wants to double the uh corporate tax now and he wants a 30 an hour minimum wage bodega gonna pay 30 bucks an hour so I wonder what your perspective was on him

Well, you'll see capital flee. You'll see residents flee. You will see law enforcement flee. This is somebody who has no respect for our law enforcement. Sadly, we've seen a lot of anti-Semitic actions and words as

as well. And we are very concerned what this will mean at the core for public safety, for quality of life, for affordability in New York City. And my mother fled a communist country to see somebody who is proud to be a Democrat socialist, but really is a communist, become mayor of the city of New York

An individual who's only been a citizen of this country for seven years to become mayor of the most important economic engine of our nation is very scary. The largest city in the world, by the way, does not have at all the experience to run this city. So there's that as well. So we have to do whatever we can to figure out what the next steps are

for Democrats, independents and Republicans to work together to elect someone who can defeat him. And, you know, it's interesting to see how the ticket may turn out here. If Cuomo stays on the ticket, if if Adams stays on the ticket,

and you have this three-way split, perhaps is an opportunity for a Republican to get in, even with as little as 30% of the vote. So we need to strategize here and all common sense New Yorkers, regardless of what party you are from, have to figure out what path we're going to take to move forward to elect whoever's going to be the person who can defeat this guy. Yeah, even the New York Times says he's too radical. It's crazy. Congresswoman, thanks very much for being a stand-up person.

And let us know if you do decide to do anything with the Ethics Committee, because we're very involved with that story, as you know. Thanks again.

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