New Bombshell Lead in Maddie McCann Disappearance?
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A little girl goes missing from a wonderful vacation with her parents.

practically right under their noses in the last hours. A very disturbing and new Maddie McCann claim. What happened to the little girl? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. That's right. In the last days, a very disturbing new Maddie McCann claim that a drunken wife

of a British man ran over the little girl before the couple dumped her body at sea. This has just emerged. Prosecutors have been accused by the media of failing to properly investigate a claim Madeline "Maddie" McCann was run over by a drunk driver.

Now, Portuguese officers allegedly get a tip about a British man who was covering up a secret about his German wife, who reportedly ran over Maddie while the wife is drunk. And then to cover it up, they hid the little girl's body. OK, that's another claim in the search for Maddie McCann. But it was decided at that time to continue solely investigating suspect Christian Bruckner.

Joining me in all-star panel to make sense of what we know right now, high-profile lawyer joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, former prosecutor of felony crimes just like this one, now defense attorney Daryl Cohen. Dr. Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrist joining us also from the Atlanta jurisdiction. And you can find her at her website, drangelarnoldmd.com.

Special Deputy Sheriff, Johnson County Sheriff's Office, Executive Director of the Kelsey Smith Foundation, Greg Smith joining us. But first, to Charlie Langston, Editor, DailyMail.com. Charlie, thank you for being with us. Charlie, what a...

What a long time we've waited for justice and the Maddie McCann disappearance, or should I just call it like it is, Charlie? The Maddie McCann murder. This little girl just three years old when she was abducted. I mean...

This is a case as a Brit, it's something that has been a part of my life for over a decade now. And I think the incredible interest that remains in this case and in all of its developments just go to show how much of a sensational crime this was.

You're right, Charlie. Just seeing the McCanns crying.

crying and begging and of course under the circumstances where little baby Maddie went missing they were first suspected which tore them up all the more guys who is this guy that is now the suspect 5

Finally, he's been in their crosshairs for a long time. I don't know what has taken them so long to name him an official suspect. Take a listen to our cut three, our friends at Sky. But Madeleine McCann's parents, they still hope she's alive. But prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters says he's leading a murder investigation. Madeleine's parents still believe she could be alive. Why do you call it a murder investigation? There's so many facts.

that she's dead. So there's no... opportunity that she's still living. The case against the new suspect, Christian B., is circumstantial. He's a convicted child sex abuser

He lived along Portugal's Algarve coast for 12 years. His last home was in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine vanished. His phone was used outside the McCann apartment the night she disappeared. We don't have Madeleine McCann's body, but we expect that she's dead. We have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

But we need more information from people, places he has lived, so we can target these places specially and search there for Madeline. You know, I find it really interesting out to Greg Smith, Special Deputy Sheriff joining us, Johnston County. You, of all people, know the power of the ping. The power of a cell phone ping. Did I just hear, Greg Smith, that this guy...

Cell phone pinged just outside Maddie McCann's apartment. It was like an Airbnb where they were staying at this plush resort. They didn't know that before now? Well, Nancy, it depends on how they did it. I mean, there is a way to get wives...

location data you know at the time of the crime that type of thing the stuff that I work on all the time there's also a way to get that data though from historical data from what's known as CDRs are called detail records you can go back and get the information on which towers a phone contacted and their software you can put that into and it'll map that out and you can actually see where that phone has traveled so it would be interesting to know when

They got that information. How long ago did they get it? Is it something they just recently said, hey, we can do this? I mean, you know, there's a lot of questions here. But, yeah, 15 years is a long time. You know, Charlie Langston, I don't understand it. Charlie Langston joining us, reporter with DailyMail.com. She's the editor of Female, F-E-M-A-I-L. I don't understand it if he is linked outside Facebook.

where her parents were staying at the time, why has it taken them so long? You know, this whole case has just been filled with error after error after error, starting right from the jump when Maddie disappeared. The Portuguese police came under investigation

huge criticism at the time because they failed to take any action immediately, which we now believe allowed this suspect, this man, to get out of Portugal. As soon as the media furore began around the Maddie McCann case, this guy slipped out of Portugal and we believe went back

to Germany. None of the borders were locked down. None of that stuff was put into place. And that allowed him to walk right out of the country. So to even know that he was there at the time, we would have had to have identified him as being in Portugal. Nobody knew at the time because he was allowed to flee before anyone could even raise him as a suspect. And

And at that time, Daryl Cohen, he was already a sex offender. He had been molesting little girls, ogling them, just...

A long, long history. How he was moving so freely from one country to the next. Nancy, you have to wonder where the police were, where their eyes were, where their head was, and their hands weren't moving the way they should have. Well, obviously I know where their heads were.

up their rear ends because this guy was allowed to wander around right there where this child was staying. And there are now other cases, a rape of a U S citizen in the area and a sex attack on another elderly lady, another young girl who goes missing, not too, too far away around the age and very physically similar to

to Maddie McCann and he's connected to all these things that I know. I know, Daryl Cohen, that you would scream bloody murder at trial if I did this. But don't you think it's quite the coincidence that where the elderly woman is raped, where the U.S. citizen

is raped, where the other little girl goes missing that looks like Maddie McCann, where Maddie goes missing, he's always in the area. He's always right there a couple of blocks away. That doesn't bother you?

I absolutely admit it is not a coincidence because I don't believe in coincidences. But I am very concerned about the lack of appropriate police work and their investigation went dead end until finally and maybe now we'll have justice. Just maybe. Guys, I want you to take a listen now to our cut 18, our friends at Sky News. And this is about the possibility that.

that some of Madeline, baby Maddie McCann's clothes were found at an area. I don't know if you guys have this, but in a lot of areas, especially densely populated areas, there are patches of ground where people can plant a garden. They can have a structure there. That is what this guy had, this Christian Bruckner guy.

And it is there that we believe there's a possibility that some of Maddie's clothes were buried. Take a listen. Do you still have the same suspect you had three months ago? Yes, we have only one suspect, only Christian B. How much information have you been sent? We got hundreds of hints. Of course, there are some hints which are only rubbish, but there are some hints that

We are hopeful that can make our investigation more successful. Three months ago, you said you needed good evidence, forensic evidence. Have you found that yet? We have no forensic evidence, but it's not necessary to have forensic evidence to charge our suspect. But we need some more evidence, maybe a witness.

maybe a photo or a video. I asked the prosecutor what evidence he has that makes him certain that Madeleine is dead. He won't say, but he is aware of rumours. Someone told me that we have found the clothes of Madeleine. Yes, the pyjamas. But it's not true. If we found something like that, it would be great.

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In the last days, a shocking new Maddie McCann claim emerges that a drunken woman married to a British man runs over Maddie, then to cover it up, the couple dump Maddie's body at sea.

Oh, my stars. Now, law enforcement allegedly gets this tip about the cover up, but authorities apparently rejected a request to use an undercover police officer to try to befriend this wife and firm up suspicions. Now, that's according to the media. The report claims a sister of the British husband made the tip off to police officers.

That prosecutors were asked to authorize a covert police operation with someone posing as a friend and trying to get her to confess. But the court refused. Wow. It was decided at that time to continue solely investigating suspect Christian Bruckner.

Okay, who is Christian Bruckner? And shouldn't every lead be pursued? Take a listen to our cut 25, our friends at WTHR. Prosecutors in Portugal now believe they may have a suspect in the Madeline McCann case. You might remember that was a three-year-old little girl from Britain who vanished while she was vacationing with her family back in 2007 at a resort.

He also has a previous conviction in a child sexual abuse case. Evidence linking Christian Bruckner to Maddie McCann is, we believe, a fake.

photo or video of her. Now, why would he have that? Take a listen. Now we're cutting 19, our friends at Inside Edition. Peter Van Sant questioned prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters about the investigation. We have strong evidence that Christian B. killed Maddie McCann. But you don't have a body, correct? There's no body? No, we have no forensic evidence. Then how can you be so certain?

We have other evidence. And may I speculate that that evidence may include photographs or video of Maddie McCann? You may speculate, but I'm not allowed to...

tell you if you are right or if you are wrong. 48 Hours reports that a search of an abandoned warehouse that once belonged to the suspect turned up USB drives that contained pictures and videos of child abuse. The prosecutor wouldn't confirm if images of Madeline were on the drives. Let me go out to Dr. Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrist joining us. Dr. Angie, it's one thing to molest a child.

It's another thing to video it because if in fact Bruegner had video or photos of Maddie McCann, he would have to have made them himself because at that time Maddie was not public.

There were not pictures and video of her online. He would have to have made it, which means it would have been most likely video of him raping or torturing this three-year-old little girl. Well, and the horrific thing is if you video something, it's so that you can watch it over and over again because you get some sort of thrill out of doing it and

and watching it over again. It also means that this had some planning on his part, doesn't it? The thing that just gets me is that here's later they're asking if she's still alive. Maybe if they had have done their work in the beginning, if she was still alive, they could have found her then. I don't know why they think that all of a sudden she's going to be still alive

How are they ever going to find her? I don't know that anyone has said that she is still alive. And that's not his M.O., apparently. You know, if he did it, he raped her, he abused her, he filmed it. And because of all the bumbling around in the police in this country, he's gotten away with it for this long. It's horrible. What?

happened the night that this little girl seemingly vanishes into thin air while on vacation with her family. Take a listen to our friends at Sky. A three-year-old British girl has gone missing in the Algarve in Portugal, of course. We can speak now to Dan Mason, who's a journalist who works in that area. Dan, thanks for joining us on Sky News Sunrise this morning. What are the details that you've gleaned so far?

Hi there, yeah. All I basically know is that the child was obviously staying at a Mark Warner establishment and was reported missing around PM last night. She's three years old and answers to the name of Madeline or Maddie Fairhair and the...

Most of the people within the area were searching through to about 4 o'clock in the morning yesterday, and obviously through hedges and down the beach, etc. Straight out to Charlie Langston joining us from DailyMail.com. Charlie, again, thank you for being with us. Exactly what happened?

surrounding her disappearance. - So the disappearance happened while Maddie's parents and their friends were out at a restaurant in Portugal. They were dining at a place about 180 feet away from where they were staying. Throughout the night, the parents went back, checked on the children,

And at 10 p.m., Kate went back, Maddie's mom, to find that Maddie had disappeared from her bed. Obviously, as any mother would, she flew into a blind panic, alerted as many people as she possibly could. They then spent the entire night hunting for Maddie but couldn't find her anywhere. Now, Portuguese authorities...

did not issue they didn't even issue a description of maddie until around 24 hours after she had disappeared they didn't lock down any kind of entrance or exit from the town where the family was staying and it really was just a horrific comedy of errors that continued right up until the point when maddie's parents kate and jerry were named as official suspects because portuguese police accused them of

killing their daughter in some tragic accident in the apartment and then trying to cover it up. So we have a man being named as an official suspect for the very first time since Maddie's own parents were accused of killing their child. I think that there was a lot of public outrage that the parents left her and her siblings in the hotel room while they went to have dinner.

True, it was only 100 feet away. True, they had nothing to do with her disappearance. But still, it was a real witch burning, Daryl Cohen. Go after the people who were closest to what appears to be a victim. Easier than going after the real investigation. Easier than saying...

don't have a suspect yet. We're looking carefully. Easier than looking and trogging this net and finding this guy who was a convicted child molester, who's finding this guy who went after a girl that looked like Betty. I mean, this is outrageous. You know, another thing about it, to you, Greg Smith, I agree with Daryl Cohen, too,

The fact that they focused so much on the parents at the get-go really delayed the search for Maddie's abductor. And another thing, Greg Smith, Greg, the very first thing when a woman or a child goes missing, you look for sex predators in the area. And who is in the area? Unmonitored Christian Bruckner. They did nothing.

Yeah, that's standard procedure, Nancy. You immediately check. I mean, here in Kansas, we have the sex offender registry. So that was done in Kelsey's case. That was one of the first things that was done was see who's in the area, who could have been in the area, interview them, talk to them. And while in a lot of cases,

In a lot of these cases, it turns out that there's a family member involved and there's a tendency for police to focus on that. You've got to be aware of the big picture and be open-minded and figure out that they may not be the suspect. And you can't just hone in with a preconceived notion that this is what you've got. So, yeah, that's problematic.

not only that, do you, Charlie Langston, it's my understanding that this announcement comes nearly 15 years to the day that Maddie goes missing. Do you find that odd at all?

all 15 years to the day? - It's actually not odd because Portugal has a 15 year statute of limitation on crimes that would call for a 10 plus year sentence. So I think the timing is actually in no way coincidental or strange. I think the timing is very, very purposeful because Portuguese authorities know that if they don't do something right here, right now,

then it may well be too late to ever punish whoever perpetrated this horrific crime and to ever find any kind of justice or at least answers for Kate and Jerry McCann. Well, you're right. What Charlie Langston is telling you is absolutely correct.

I think that this is just the authorities trying to save their own skin in this case. Take a listen to our cut, 27, our friend Simon Jones. Madeline went missing from a holiday apartment on the 3rd of May 2007 while her parents were having dinner at a nearby restaurant. In July 2013, the Met Police opened its own investigation saying it had new evidence and new witnesses. And it was in June 2020 that German police first revealed they had a suspect.

There have been searches in Portugal, but no breakthrough. In less than two weeks, a statute of limitations would take effect, meaning under Portuguese law, it would no longer be possible to make someone a person of interest. But it's understood this latest development is driven not by timing, but by strong indications that a crime has taken place.

There have been many false dawns in the investigations into what happened. The police in Germany have previously warned their inquiry, like the others, could end without a charge. But Madeleine's parents have always said they need to know what happened so they can find peace. They've blurted out publicly

that they don't have any forensic evidence. That hurt the case. But now I'm understanding, Charlie Langston, joining us from DailyMail.com, that they are claiming they've got a witness. Now, supposedly, yes, they are saying that they have a witness who may be able to come forward and link...

Christian B., Christian Bruckner to the crime. But I should also point out that a TV special is due to air in the UK in which four witnesses are understood to be coming forward to corroborate an alibi for Christian B., which would once again potentially, you know, completely ruin this whole

case before it's even really got off the ground. So it will be interesting to see what happens when these four people who are named, who supposedly have no connection to Christian B whatsoever, no reason to defend him, come forward and corroborate whatever alibi it is that he plans to offer. Well, you know what, Charlie Langston? I'll just burn that bridge when I get there.

Because I've had a lot of cases where the defense claims, I've got an eyewitness to say fill in the blank. And you know what I say to that? B.S. I'll stand on my own witnesses. Because...

Very often, I've had witnesses come on for the defense. I remember one very notably, Daryl Cohen, that came on trying to tell me he saw what he saw the night of a murder. I guess the defense did not count on me going to the scene and pointing out that that point of view was absolutely impossible because there's a thick hedge of bushes about six feet tall between the eye

and the murder. Impossible, unless he flew over the hedge and looked down to see the murder. So I don't believe any eyewitness until they're tested by cross-examination. As a matter of fact, Daryl Cohen, in the black and white letter of the law, eyewitnesses can be tested as to their vision, the lighting, the distance at which they saw what they claimed to have seen. I mean, it's laid out.

out in black and white how a so-called eyewitness can be cross-examined. So I'd like to get a hold of those eyewitnesses myself and see what's left of them after I finish. I'd like to know what these eyewitnesses have to say. I would like to be able to cross-examine them. I'm with you. But let's assume their testimony is impeccable. It doesn't stop

It doesn't stop the prosecutor, the courts from trying this guy. And if the statute of limitations is running out, I would rather have some prosecutorial time incarceration than nothing at all. And if somehow he does this again, we'll get him. Explain what you're talking about. Kim and I both know there are times we know a person is guilty as a prosecutor, but we don't have enough evidence. And the statute of limitations is running and, and,

In our country, we didn't have to worry about a murder statute of limitations. It doesn't exist. But there in Portugal, it apparently does. So they can arrest him. They can try him and keep him incarcerated and keep the case running as long as possible. And if he is acquitted, so be it. But he's got evidence.

He spent time in jail, in prison, and also his name, his likeness, his face is all over the media, all over the press, and that's all he has to do is breathe again, and they've got him for something else. Sometimes you have to get even with...

more than getting him the way you really want to. Let me just say, officially, I don't know what you're talking about. Charlie Langston, joining us from DailyMail.com. This guy is a child sex predator. What is his record? Why has he been labeled...

Already a child sex predator. At the time, he was skulking around Maddie McCann's Airbnb. I mean, this man is not just a child sex predator. He, I mean, he was described by a woman he used to be in a relationship with as a human pig. He has perpetrated sex

so many sex crimes against children, against women, ranging in ages from, as you said, a 72-year-old American citizen who he is understood to have raped in Portugal in 2005. Now, he was not convicted of that

crime until 2019. He is currently serving a jail sentence for that crime. Seven year jail sentence. Hold on. You know what, Charlie? You know the facts so well. Those things are used like drinking from the fire hydrant. It's too much too fast. Did you hear what Charlie Langston just said? This guy, Christian Brickner, is just now serving a seven year sentence on a 2005 rape of an elderly woman.

In Portugal, same place as where Maddie was stolen. That's a seven-year sentence, and he just now has started serving it. And it started, the event happened in 2005. So you've got that sentence.

Then you've got him being connected to the rape of an Irish tour represented in 2004, exposing himself to children on a playground. But there's another little girl where he was near her at the time she goes missing, and she looks so much like Maddie. What about that case? So much.

much so that she was actually nicknamed German Maddie in the media. This was in 2016. And this is actually the first case that made people connect Christian Bruckner to the Maddie McCann case, because the similarities between the two was so astounding that it didn't seem plausible that he couldn't have been connected.

to the Madeleine McCann case. But it's not until six years later that we're actually hearing for the very first time that he's been named a suspect. Dr. Angie, hold the thought, hold the thought because I want to hear it. But I want to analyze what you just said. Dr. Angie with me is renowned psychiatrist, Dr. Angela Arnold. Dr. Angie, I remember a case. You might remember it too, Daryl Cohen. It's a case I tried. This guy's a serial killer. I got him on one.

and his victim will forever be a Jane Doe. She has never been identified. That's really hard to prove that kind of case because you can't, if you don't know the victim, you don't know who they hung out with, where they're from, who was their last boyfriend. Anyway, she's found strangled rape out in a field. Long story short, I got a bead on the perp.

So I started looking for people that knew the perp. I found his girlfriend, the mother of his child who had kicked him out for trying to strangle her. Another woman he tried to strangle in the Fulton. No, she was in the Gwinnett County Jail, Darrell. I had a reconstructionist draw the picture of what the dead victim would have looked like in life.

Guess who she looked like? Almost identical. They look like twins. His girlfriend that had rejected him and thrown him out of the house. And I put those two pictures, those two sketches up in front of the jury and argued who would have killed this woman other than the man who was rejected by this woman.

Did you hear what Charlie Langston just said? The German Maddie looks just like Maddie McCann. Dr. Angie, what about it? Nancy, the fact of the matter is, I don't understand why all of this information is being ignored because we have known for a very long time that unfortunately, sexual predators do not change their stripes.

And they will continue and continue their behavior until they are stopped, which is why in the United States we have sexual predator lists that we put them on. Nancy, they are incapable of being rehabilitated. Dr. Angie.

Everything you just said is correct, but that is not responsive to the question I asked. I asked you about the physical similarities in victims. Why do perpetrators do that? Because they're playing out their fantasy, whatever it is. They're playing it out through another person that looks just like that person.

It's right out there, Nancy. It's simple. We're not looking for a zebra. They are acting it out on someone who looks just like the other person.

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The report also claims the couple's neighbor told police she heard them arguing loudly the day after Maddie goes missing. She heard the husband yelling, why did you bring her over and over and over this, according to reports. But what do we know? Prosecutors have stated specifically about Christian Bruckner, their number one suspect.

Charlie Langston, it has been reported that prosecutors are, quote, 100 percent sure that Christian Bruckner is the perp that took Maddie. Why now? And what do you think the evidence is? I mean, I think the evidence is all circumstantial in terms of he is just a perp.

Truly horrendous man who has perpetrated crime after crime after crime against women and children. He has a history of perpetrating crimes exactly like that one in the Maddie McCann case. Now, we said earlier it wasn't his MO typically to.

you know, murder one of his victims. However, I think it's important to remember the media for all around this case was so extraordinary that there would have been no way for someone to perpetrate this crime and not be

be charged with it. Had she returned to her parents, had she been found, had the police managed to track her down in one way or another, there's no way that the person who committed this crime wouldn't have been found. So I think trying

While I understand how important it was to her parents to call attention to this case, I think the enormous public interest in it may well have sealed Maddie's death. And that to me is the most horrendous thing about this. It took the police so long to begin properly investigating this case.

that Maddie could have survived had they actually pulled their socks up and gotten on with things from the get-go. I understand what you're saying, if she has still been alive. But Greg Smith joining us, Special Deputy Sheriff.

The reality is when children are taken at this age, typically they are killed within the first 76 hours. Yeah, absolutely, Nancy. That's I mean, that's the modus operandi for young children, you know, and and I don't know that media attention is a bad thing. Maybe maybe.

a double-edged sword, but Kelsey's case had a heck of a lot of media attention. We were on every news outlet in the United States and even international. And while Kelsey didn't come home alive, she came home. We found her. Now, thinking about what you're saying, guys, what,

For those of you just joining us, an official suspect has finally been named in the disappearance of a three-year-old little girl, Maddie McCann. Take a listen to Hour Cut 28, our friend Alison Roberts. Yesterday, they issued a statement saying that on Wednesday...

an individual had been named as an official suspect. That was an international request from Portugal to the German authorities to inform that person of interest that they had been made an official suspect. As your previous interviewee said, this is always a significant step.

because it means effectively that someone is being or will soon be questioned under caution. That's to say questions may be put that could incriminate them, which gives them the right not to answer, of course. So it's actually a status to protect that individual, but it is always significant as it's a necessary prelude to charges at some point, although there is no sign of that just yet.

No sign of official charges after he has been named a suspect. What does that mean, Charlie? He's been named an official suspect. So why won't charges naturally follow? Well, what I think is the next most obvious step is that he will be extradited from Germany to Portugal. And that is when charges may well be brought against him. But right now, I think what is going on behind the scenes is that

Portuguese authorities in conjunction with German authorities are scrambling to try and get as much evidence as humanly possible to try and get some witnesses who will come forward and at least say I saw him at this place I saw him here I know that he is a sex offender whatever it may be

And right now, I think the most important thing is that he has been named as a suspect. Again, the first official suspect, which marks at least a step forward in a case that has been dragging on for more than a decade now. Charlie, were Maddie's parents ever named official suspects? Yes, they were named as official persons of interest way back in 2007. And interestingly enough,

At the time, they had a huge amount of public criticism aimed at them. They were accused of neglect. Portuguese authorities suspected that Madeline had died in a tragic accident in the apartment that her parents had then tried to cover up. Now, they stopped being official suspects in 2008 when Portuguese authorities dropped the case completely because there was a lack of evidence.

Ever since then, not a single official suspect has been named until now. Take a listen to Our Cut 29, our friend Martin Brandt. It's hardly been a secret. The German drifter has been the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann case for three years or more, but now it's official. Christian B is suspected of abducting and killing Madeleine.

German prosecutors are leading the investigation but haven't charged him. The British girl was three when she vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007. This week the suspect had visitors to the German prison where he's serving a rape sentence. He was told that Portuguese prosecutors had made him an 'arguido', a formal suspect.

He was questioned for the first time but refused to answer. So Charlie Langston being named a formal suspect there in that jurisdiction, that's the first time cops could question him? Yes, the first time and he remained entirely silent throughout. He refused to answer a single question. But interestingly, a woman that he was in a relationship with previously, she came forward last week

And she said that he told her in 2013, I know what happened to little Maddie. She also suggested that he may have been the abductor, the abuser, and that he may have passed Maddie off to someone else. So there are still an extraordinary number of questions surrounding this case. However, the mere fact that he's been named as an official suspect, I'm not sure.

I really can't overstate what a key step forward that is in this case, especially given that he's only the third person. When you look at Kate and Jerry McCann, only the third official suspect to ever be named by Portuguese authorities. Is justice delayed? Justice denied? Because now we learn this unnamed British man, the husband, has died. And we don't know if the wife's still alive.

And front page reports, papers claim police refused to cooperate in the investigation of a clue that pointed to Maddie McCann being run over and the possibility a couple disposed of her body hours later in the ocean. Now, a woman went to police to say she suspected her brother was involved in the disappearance of Maddie McCann.

She said her brother was an alcoholic, and since the day Maddie vanished, he was hiding a painful secret. Hmm. And now he's dead. Oh, my stars. Whether it's true or not.

If Bruckner ever goes to trial, this will be fodder for the defense. They can argue he didn't do it. This couple did. The husband's not alive anymore to defend himself or say anything. Otherwise we wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye.

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