Dr. Oz - June 20th, Hour 2
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Right, Hour 2, Sean Hannity Show, toll free, it is 800-941-SEAN if you want to be a part of the program. Well, predictably, Democrats are out there doing their usual, you know, Medicaid, Mediscare, and trying to scare old people into believing there's going to be massive cuts to Medicare, Social Security, poor people, elderly people will only eat dog food and cat food until somebody that looks like Donald Trump comes by, takes them in their wheelchair, and throws them over a cliff.

I mean, we have heard this now, these phony false arguments, these fear tactics, these outright lies.

for years, you go back to Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton, when they reduced the rate of growth for Medicaid, they went from 7% a year every year, they went to 7%. They're increasing spending 7% a year every year for seven years, but because it wasn't the 12, 13% that they originally had allocated for, that's a cut. Well, that's a massive increase because it was twice the rate of inflation.

But that didn't stop Democrats from going out there and demagoguing and just outright lying, just like Joe's not a cognitive mess, just like the borders are secure, just like inflation is transitory, et cetera, et cetera. It's just the same old things. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. They want dirty air and water and they want to kill grandma and grandpa.

Dr. Oz is leading point on this entire issue and talking about what is really in the reconciliation bill. There is no cut at all as it relates to Medicaid, Medicare at all. And here's what he said. We are responsible for adjudicating about one point seven trillion dollars to CMS. That's twice the size of the defense budget. It's massive, puts a big target on our back. There are massive efforts by foreign governments and domestic governments.

to steal money from the programs. We have got to clean up the fraud, waste, and abuse. The changes that the House bill has, and they're very wise ones, are the ones that are going to allow us to use these programs to protect our vulnerable. Because when they steal money from these programs, they're stealing from our most vulnerable. This is the most ambitious health reform bill ever in American history. It's imperative that it passes so people like me can actually keep CMS running smoothly.

Anyway, Dr. I was also putting out here that changes to the one big, beautiful bill are the ones that are going to allow us to use these programs to protect our vulnerable, because when they steal money from these programs, they are stealing from our most vulnerable. It is imperative that it passes. Now, what does all that mean?

when you when you break it down we had john thun on earlier in the week we got his take on all of this uh dr oz is heading up this effort and and i i want to eliminate any fear ambiguity i want to counter the lies that are being told on this uh dr memment oz is with us he is the administrator for the centers for medicare medicaid services uh dr oz welcome back sir how are you

Thank you, Sean. And you articulated it so beautifully. We love these programs. The president said that explicitly. He loves and cherishes Medicare and Medicaid. Not touching Medicare at all, by the way. Those rumors are already out there. Senators are being approached in the supermarket aisles saying, don't cut my Medicare, that no one's touching Medicare. This is an effort to

to clean up Medicaid, take care of the waste, the fraud, the abuse that's in the system so that we have enough money to take care of the people who are in the program, the people who we're charged with managing, those at the dawn of their life, the children, those at the twilight of their life, the elderly, and those in the shadows, Sean, who aren't going to get better necessarily, and they're having difficult times, and they've got illnesses that sometimes are chronic. We want these people.

folks managed for sixty years this country had been doing it to medicate every great society is judged by how they take care of folks who are having trouble we are great people we do it uh... but the fact that we've allowed the system to get perverted over the last few years to make it easy

for fraudsters to take advantage of it, to facilitate putting people on these programs who don't need to be on the programs, they should be getting their insurance elsewhere, to let people who should be trying to get a job not feel some pressure to do just that. It's good for them, by the way, anyway.

for many reasons they'll make more money with a job but the fact we haven't urged those folks to get out of their houses and try to participate in communities or get an education or just volunteer is is wrong and it hurts the program and we're seeing this in more and more blue states when governors can't manage their budgets anymore because they haven't been

facing these challenges head on. And in every state, Sean, in every state, the fastest growing health item is Medicaid. It's the health budget. All right. Can you break down and make the distinction for people that may not know between Medicaid and Medicare? Can you also explain how for the same services, Medicaid pays X, Medicare pays Y?

three times as much. Can you explain that? And so people could have an understanding of how insane this whole system is and the urgent need for reform. So when you get your paycheck, the

There's 2.9% taken out for the government to pay for Medicare. Medicare is the insurance program for older Americans once you get past age 65. There's some other exceptions for chronic illness, but that's basically Medicare. Medicaid was the program designed for folks who didn't have any money.

who didn't meet the federal poverty level of income. So this is typically children. Half the children in the country are born into Medicaid or CHIP, the Children's Health Insurance System. So the kids don't have money because they're not working. So if their parents don't have resources, they become financially challenged. We want to help those kids and make sure they're given appropriate preventive care and grow up healthy and strong. Their moms are protected. Folks who are living a life where they've had

difficulties getting a job or holding a job, don't have income, are also given health insurance through Medicaid. This is a social obligation, I feel, and I think as a nation we have decided, and for 60 years we have provided insurance to these Medicaid folks. It was all going fine. And then over the last 15 years there's been an effort by –

primarily the Democratic Party, to re-engineer it, to expand Medicaid, to allow it to cover people who were not part of the original deal. When you do that, you create some risks.

And I'm not saying it was done on purpose, but there's no question what happened. There was a dramatic increase in the amount of money that was being spent to give people insurance through Medicaid. Even people who should be working in jobs were now given Medicaid insurance coverage, and it has allowed those programs, Medicaid, to grow 50%. Well, how did they allow for this eligibility? I'm not trying to interrupt you here. Sean, it never crossed anyone's mind 60 years ago that you would ever give free health insurance to able-bodied individuals.

And they didn't put it in the law because it never dawned on anybody you'd even try to do that. But with the Obamacare program, because they didn't think they could afford to do it through the other tactics that were offered, they decided, you know what, we'll just expand Medicaid. We'll give Medicaid insurance not just to the kids and to the poor folks and the elderly. We'll actually give it to able-bodied individuals who don't have a job.

And so by doing that, you introduce a whole different dynamic. And then here's the part that really gets me, your initial question. When Obama put this law in place, he said that you could not pay more for an able-bodied person than someone on Medicare. I'll say it again. A Medicaid patient, an able-bodied person without a job,

and therefore living in poverty and given free insurance by the government, was not allowed to pay a doctor more than a senior who worked their whole life and put money into the system, retired on Medicare. And the reason for that is because you don't want doctors deciding to take care of Medicaid patients over Medicare patients, right? They're all equal. This changed under the Biden administration. They changed it to say you could pay Medicaid patients, these able-bodied individuals, up to three times more than Medicare.

That, of course, completely destroyed the system. Because now you have doctors thinking, my goodness, you know, I get paid more for taking care of an able-bodied, healthy person on Medicaid than I do an older person who's on Medicare. So it begins to cause huge instability in the system. This one big, beautiful bill...

is a bold and appropriate effort to fix this injustice. It's the right thing to do. I know that people are making up stories around it, but I want to applaud the Republican senators who have crafted some improvements to a bill that was already really well done by the House. Speaker Johnson got the congressional leaders together and crafted a very, very effective bill. It's exactly what we need within government to make sure that Medicaid is going to be around

for the next generation. - Well, it's headed towards insolvency based on every estimate that I've seen over the years. My question is, all right, so you have able-bodied people. Now we do have millions of jobs open in the country right now. We had the latest job numbers come out. It's very clear there's millions of them.

And so you have able-bodied people that are on these Medicaid rolls and they're paying all this, we are paying for their healthcare, which ostensibly, correct me if I'm wrong, is that not nationalized healthcare? Yeah, this is, you know,

We're edging perilously close to that. And we have a system that would work if we kept the incentives in place the way they were originally designed. And, Sean, I can't emphasize this enough. The original program created 60 years ago next month worked well. I mean, it took care of the groups that I mentioned who otherwise would have been left behind. And as a great nation, we will continue to do that. The Republican Party just wants these programs to survive.

You look around the country at states like California and Illinois and Minnesota, which just today I was reading in the paper that they are starting to pull back from some of their programs to fund illegal immigrants on Medicaid. I mean, first of all, it's not the right thing to do because people in other states should not be forced to pay for decisions you make in your state. But more importantly, they can't have been afforded in their own states.

So we need to make the bold and correct decisions today to save these vitally important programs for tomorrow. What do we do with these states that are paying massive amounts of money to illegal immigrants, for example, like California, about two-thirds of the health care payments for the poor, indigent, or people that are not working? Is that not coming from the federal government, meaning every taxpayer, not just Californians? Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes. I don't think people know this, Sean, and your listeners, as smart as they are, may not have kept up with this. I'll just put the numbers out there. 90% of

of the money that a state might pay to a Medicaid patient who's able-bodied is going to come from the federal government, 90%. So they make the decision of who they want to cover, and we're stuck with the bill. So we have said already in this administration, we are not going to compensate you for undocumented individuals. If they're illegal immigrants and you want to give them Medicaid on your dollar, then it's up to you to do that. We're not going to do it.

And that's why you now see all of a sudden California, Illinois, Minnesota, states that had made these decisions and were boldly standing tall because they're going to do the right thing. Now they're saying, well, it's not that right because we can't afford it. All of a sudden, instead of being in a surplus for our state budget, we're in a big deficit. And they're now starting to get upset that we're not compensating them. But it's not right to ask someone living in the state.

in Florida or Texas to pay for an illegal immigrant on Medicaid in California. They didn't vote for it. They don't want it. It's not their responsibility. And I'm not doing my job. I'm not representing the president well if I'm allowing that to happen. So this administration is very clear. We are going to take care of the American people. The president always has. He always will. This battle, although it's politically bruising, is the right thing to do for those Americans who will need Medicaid in the future. We will preserve it. We will protect it. We will love and cherish it.

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All right, we continue now with Dr. Oz. He is the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Let's talk about the advancement in the future of medicine. For example, I brought this up the last time you were on the program. We have a guy, Dr. Josh Umber. He's out of Wichita, Kansas, and he had a concierge service, $50 a month per adult, $10 per child.

And it was 24 hour concierge care. They would take care of almost all of your medical needs, you know, short of cancer, heart attack, stroke and and really severe circumstances. But if you took that $50 a month and you coupled it with a catastrophic plan with the lowest deductible you can afford, it would fully cover individuals. It included telemedicine as part of it. It included health care cooperatives like this as part of it.

I mean, we've got to re-examine, in my view, the paradigm, how we do medicine. Well, I think we need to bring in digital solutions, and you just hinted at those. Programs like the one you outlined make a lot of sense because there's a lot of alignment of incentives. This is, again, what the president is so good at. You align what the federal government wants, what the state government wants, with what the

doctors want with what the patients want. So if a doctor is getting that kind of care at those transparent prices, and then you can scale it, you can grow it by allowing there to be some crutching on digital solutions. I'll give you a good example. Doctors spend most of their time charting.

You don't want your doctor or nurse writing in the chart all the time. You want them looking you in the eye, taking care of you. We have technology now that would allow us to gather while the doctor's in their workflow, while they're taking care of you, gather the data electronically and tabulate it and make it accessible and understandable with artificial intelligence so the patient can have a copy when they go home to share with their family. That's something we should be making easy to do, not hard to do. You mentioned telemedicine, another good example where, especially in rural areas, and I want to just focus on this.

We have got to help rural medicine. Members of the audience who are living in rural areas, the Republican Party, this bill is going to help you. And people are making up stories about how it's designed to hurt some of the poor hospitals. It's the opposite. The hospitals that have lobbyists and are located in affluent urban areas, they're able to get...

all the contacts they need to take money out of it out of the the system the folks who are left behind need to have transparent tactics to help them what you just brought up is an example of that we have the technology to do it we should be investing in rural health care to make sure all americans have equal access to high quality care dr oz i hope people are hearing you loud and clear because this is going to result in improved health care on a level that we've never seen before institutionalized modernization

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I can't help it. There's certain Democrats that just stand out that I really, really love. And one of them, we don't talk enough about him. And that's Congressman Hank Johnson.

You might recall his warning that Guam may capsize. Listen. I don't know how many square miles that is. Do you happen to know? I don't have that figure with me, sir. I can certainly supply it to you if you'd like. Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become so...

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Anyway, here's Hank Johnson and his bizarre rant on Trump and the administration's deportations. Now, remember, we're deporting, let's see, murderers, child molesters, gang members, drug dealers. Listen. First, they came for the Latinos outside of the Home Depot. And I didn't say anything about it because I'm not a Latino at the Home Depot.

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And in response to that, the National School Boards Association sent a letter to the Biden administration seeking federal help. Things had gotten so far out of hand. Well, Hank Johnson, the reason I bring all this up, the man that thinks that Guam can capsize back in the news today because he has an anti-Trump song inspired by Jimi Hendrix. Remember, hey, Joe, that's an oldie.

Anyway, here's his version. I'm compelled with a new guitar and with some thoughts about that old song, Hey Joe, you know, to give some commentary on where we are now. Hey.

Trump, where you going with that gun in your hand? Hey, Trump, where you going with that gun in your hand?

I'm going down the street to shoot down democracy. You know I want to be a king someday. I'm going down and shoot democracy down. You know I want to be the king someday. Hey, Donald Trump. Hey, Donald Trump.

We won't let you take our democracy down. Take it down to the ground. Hey, Trump. We won't let you take our democracy down. Burn it down to the ground. Linda, you love that. You used to be the musician in our...

I got to tell you, if he tuned the guitar and actually could sing, then it would be amazing. Slow down. If he tuned the guitar and could sing, that means his guitar... Then it would be amazing. Then it would be amazing. And if he, you know, I don't know, maybe ask somebody else to perform it. But if he was...

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Yeah, there's not many left. Not many. There's a couple seats, you know, up in front of me that are a little pricey, but it's going to be a big shot. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, I was told that there's less than like 100 tickets left. But, you know, I hope everyone comes, has a great time.

And we're really working on a great show. It's one week from tomorrow. Can you believe it? It's here. I'm excited. It's going to be great. We've got one problem, though. There's a big sign I'm standing looking at. It says no weapons allowed on premises. So I guess you're going to be the only one that's armed.

That would be a good thing for me. But if there's no weapons allowed on premises, that probably means me. There will be plenty of security there. You have to assume where I show up that there's going to be somebody that hates my guts, right? Oh, yeah. There's many liberals floating around this campus right now, I see, as I get in my car. Yeah, you know, they make it fun. They'll make it entertaining.

Yeah, it's going to be fun. I just, I really admire the way that you can dance on the razor blade when you're talking about, I know your friendship with the president and the things that you can and can't talk about. I'm a retired Navy chief. Did time in a carrier in the Gulf War and then wound up in the streets of Baghdad 15 years later when the Shiites and the Sunnis were, thought it was more fun to kill us than each other. But I really admire that.

What you do, and I think that – I don't think the president is going to pass this on to anybody else. I mean Reagan had his Russians, and Trump knows what he's got to do, and I think he's handling it well and trying to get them to surrender. But I don't think he's going to pass this along. This has to be done now. Do you agree? Yeah.

Well, he's been very clear, and I take him at his word. And frankly, he has a history of keeping his word on these issues. The caliphate is an example. Baghdadi and Associates is an example. Soleimani is an example. He dropped the mother of all bombs, if you recall. So he's not against using military force. I know that there are some people that kind of pervertedly have interpreted –

uh not forever war to mean no military use ever um but you know people are entitled to their opinion i don't really care what they think or what they say i have my opinion and i just believe that evil has to be confronted and otherwise it would be a big big mistake if you allow them to get these weapons that's my opinion absolutely absolutely so listen good seeing you good talking to you and i'll see you next week hopefully i get a chance to shake your hand

All right, my friend, I'm looking forward to it. And thank you. We'll have a great time. We're going to put our heart and soul into it. I can promise you that. All right, quick break. We'll come right back. More of your phone calls coming up straight ahead. 800-941-SHAWN. If you want to be a part of the program, that's 800-941-SHAWN. As we continue straight ahead.

All right, let's get back to our busy phones this Friday, 800-941-SHAWN, our number. David in Texas. God bless Texas. David, happy Friday to you, sir. What's going on? How are you, Sean? I'm calling you from the other free state in our country, the state of Texas. As a veteran, I just wanted to thank you for the support that you give us. I

I love your show. You are the reincarnate of Rush Limbaugh. You are the voice of this movement. There's no Rush Limbaugh. He's Babe Ruth. There's only one Babe Ruth.

Well, I even love the products on your show. I'm hoping the taxes, no tax on overtime happens so I can get a burner. But listen, the reason I called is to ask you, I got to assume that Iran is somewhat

a little bit intelligent about they know that nobody can reach that deep except us. What do you think the chances are that the material in that bunker is being moved? Is it possible that those Chinese military planes are moving the enriched uranium out so that it's not destroyed?

I don't like any of it. I think that I'm very suspicious. Either that or they're providing some military equipment of some kind. So I really don't know. And I just honestly, I just hope that this issue was resolved.

safely. I agree with the president's proposition that he keeps repeating that they can't have nuclear weapons and unconditional surrender. And, you know, I'm not really moved by the fact at all that he is giving them an additional two weeks. I assume he has more information than I do.

And that's the best I can say. I mean, I think he has a track record. I know there are people isolationist types in his ear that would rather we turn a blind eye. And I think that would put the world on the precipice of a potential Holocaust in our lifetime. And that's pretty scary just based on their previous actions. Right. Right. And the other thing that concerns me is I don't think the retaliation Iran's going to do is going to be

Anything against our military, because that's too obvious and we're preparing for that. I agree with you about the immigrants that came in illegally. I think it's going to be something, a cell that gets woken up here in our country. I pray that doesn't happen, but I think that that's already in place and, um,

I just pray to God that that's not. Well, you know, the argument that people are making not to get involved because there might be an attack on the homeland. Those people are already here. I've been saying now for years that it's not when it's if it's not if it's when it's going to happen. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Mayorkas, they allowed known terrorists in the country. We have Iranian assassination squads in the country.

So, you know, whether this could be a trigger, it was a trigger that was going to be pulled at some point anyway. And I hope to God that our FBI and that our intelligence community is able to track these people down. I really do with all my heart. Well, I appreciate your time and I love what you do. And thank you from the bottom of my heart as a veteran. Well, thank you for serving your country. You're a good man. God bless you. God bless Texas, my friend.

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