Britney Haynes & Doug Budin: "The Traitors" & Uniforms
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When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

I mean, I'm doing charity right now. I think I've got that twice in one year. You're doing charity. That's twice. What was the first one? You went to dinner with me. Do people want to be in your circle by your way into friendship with Jeff Lewis? I think people are trying to get out. When I first started coming here, I was like, Jeff Lewis. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Brittany Haynes and Doug Buden join the show. We talk about school uniforms, hands on dads and the traitors. Hey,

It was so easy getting you on the show. So easy. I've only been asking and dying and begging and calling in favors for like seven years. Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. I did not know who you were. Okay, that's fair. And then recently, Shane's partner Brogan, I guess, is a huge Big Brother fan. Okay. And he said, no, no, no, you're going to love her. And he used to work for Access Hollywood. Okay, okay. He goes, I've met her. She's great. She's fun. She's a chump. Yes. So I've got to explain who you are for...

I mean, I would imagine everybody knows who you are. No one knows who I am. Big Brother Season 12. Big Brother Season 14. The Price is Right. Amazing Race. Big Brother Reindeer Games. Traitors. So you're like the queen of these competition reality shows. We were kind of thriving at the same time. 2010 is when I did Big Brother 12. Okay. Is that when you peaked? Well, that was like my first reality show ever, 2010. That's when everybody peaked. That's frankly when reality television peaked.

And so then it's just been since then appearances here and there and whatnot. But I have been a chump since like you had 12 listeners. I'm listener. So last month. Yeah. Since Gage was a co-host on this show and actually liked talking about Monroe publicly.

and making her a public figure. Posting photos of her. Yes, posting photos. When she could appear on television and screens, that's when I was around. And I watched Flipping Out. Well, that was before she went into the Witness Protection Program. It was, yeah. Before she got her new alias and whatnot. Exactly. Yes.

Before she, yeah, before she had a confusing stepfather situation. Brittany was here early this morning. Oh, 20 minutes early. 8.04, I think you arrived. 8.09, I popped your own number. What time did you get here, Doug? I was just about to unpack my satchel, and Brittany walked in. So I got here, I think, at 8.01. Because what did I know? Not to be late. That's right. What did I know is prized here? Punctuality. Punctuality.

It is. And I showed up. Thank you. But you do have a grace period. So, um, I appreciate you being here at, were you here at eight? Eight Oh four. It was like eight Oh four. Okay. And then I took a long time on the sign and screen intentionally, you know, taking my time. I see. You know, I would like to point out just also Jenny in high school, Jenny strong lived on 15th street and my high school is on 16th street and she was always late and she only lived one block away. I live very close to the studio. I,

I'm so sorry. Not comedy. To be late. Does anyone know Jenny Strong? No one knows Jenny Strong. We're not invested in this. No. I'm sorry. But I'm unfamiliar with the traffic here, and so I was worried about, because I'm coming from downtown. And so I was like, I got to have like a major grace period in case. So you were with Doug alone for 20 minutes? I was. I saw him.

I saw so many sides of him. I'm so sorry. I saw his straight side. That's right. I saw... Well, not with those socks. He's got some bright pink socks on today. No, he did a good job. He was asking about sports. Yeah, I was talking to Kian, like a straight guy. He said, what's up?

Like he was like giving heterosexuality. Yes, queen. Did he talk about his garden in Tomato Mania yet? Later, but that was when Kian left. That was when Kian left. I used all my energy up talking straight to Kian. Well, yesterday Susan Powder was here. Yes. And I have to say I am overwhelmed by the generosity of the chumps. It's astounding. So she's...

A very prideful woman. She's fallen on hard times. She did not want any handouts. She did not want any GoFundMes. But what she did is she said, Jeff, you could promote my book. And $13 on Amazon. It is called, and then M died, Stop the Insanity, a memoir. And I called on all the chumps. I said, let's help her out.

And what is so amazing is that, just to give you an idea of the chump power, yesterday on Amazon, before she did the show, her book was ranked number 87,514 on Amazon in book sales. She was number 888 in exercise and fitness, number 2908 in memoirs.

As of this morning at 7.15 a.m., she was number 93 on Amazon. From 87,514 to number 93. She's number one in exercise, number five in memoirs. Wow. Amazing. That's the power of the chumps. And this will be the first book for so many people. I love it.

I love that. The first book ever. But you know what's actually... They're not going to read it. No, but... But they bought it. I bought it. I think it's 183 pages. Wow, you're kind-hearted. You know what I love, though, Jeff, about this is not just the immediate, which is, you know, yes, she's going to profit from all these book sales, but now she's able to use that as PR. She is now able to say, I was number 85 or number one in memoirs on Amazon, which will help her get the next project sold. I got a very long text, and I'm going to edit it. From her. From her.

She said she's incredibly happy and touched by the chumps that she said that she's had a very difficult last few weeks doing this show has given her, her happiness back.

She said that the money raised in the book sales will change her life and make things okay for months ahead. If she blows a tire, can't work for a day, whatever comes up, she has the money to take care of it. Look at you, Jeff. She's so incredibly grateful. You're saving lives. This is a life-saving program. She said chumps have made a huge difference and impact on her life. Yeah.

Life-saving program right here. We're helping people. And his heart grew four sizes larger that day. I feel like we are living that out. I am a chump. I identify fully as a chump. And likewise, I purchased truffle salt.

I paid. I have a screenshot. Any side effects? I brought the screenshot in case I need to prove it. I bought the bundle with the lemon seasoning. I have actually purchased truffle salt because as a kind heart, I support it. Don't give it to your kids. It was good. Thank you. You're welcome. I did use it.

All three flavors? It came as a two-pack. She did. That was last year. Oh, you fell for the bundle. I fell for the bundle. She bought it. I sure did. Are you still doing bundles? Yeah, of course. That's ever-present. You can always select a bundle on Saltery.store. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. But thank you. I really appreciate that. You are so welcome. We've never met before, and I'm a fan. I watch Traders. I know that you are on the precipice. We are going to find out this week if you go to be a trader or if you say goodbye. Are you here for the reunion? Yes. We film tomorrow.

Oh, good luck. Oh, so Dolores, everybody then is on the road to LA. Dolores is here. And she didn't hit us up again. Well, didn't you just have her like a week ago? Yeah, but she was on a couple times ago and she was like happy to see my LA family. She had posted that on Instagram. We gave her shit because we're like, well, you didn't see us. Well, I told her yesterday that I was coming and she said, please give them my love or something.

Something to that effect. So there you go. Will Dorinda be there too? Yes. Everybody's coming. Tell her I said hi. I will. And is Andy hosting it? Yeah. Okay, so he's in town too. Yeah, and then he's doing the Beverly Hills reunion the next day, I think he said. So how long are you in town? Till Saturday. Okay, so you've got three little girls. I do. Yeah. 10, 8, 6? Ish. 11, 10, 7.

It's so hard to keep track of. Well, also, if you Google it, they're always wrong. Yeah, they're always wrong. They're always off a year. She shouldn't have to Google the ages of her own children. I do. Yeah. I have forgotten her birthday a few times. Monroe and my youngest are close in age. That helped. Yeah, they're very similar. And then I have two that are older.

I was having trouble remembering her birthday. For some reason, it was always saying the 20... It's the 25th, but I was saying it was the 26th of October. Yeah. But then Trump was like, well, just think of it Christmas. Christmas is the 25th. Oh, easy. And since then, I haven't forgotten. You haven't forgotten. Now I forget the year. Yeah, the year is kind of hard, and I have three. So, I mean, like, keeping those...

I say the wrong month with day all the time because I'll like swap them. But Brittany, when you're doing all of these competition shows, you're away from those kids for a long time, aren't you? So I've only had to do that twice since I've had kids because when I did Big Brother the first and second time, I didn't have kids yet. When

When I did Amazing Race, Rue was really little. She was only a year old and that was really hard. Yeah. But for traders, you know, they're at an age now where it's a little easier. They know what I'm doing. They're excited to watch the show. Like they get into it and that makes it a little bit easier. You were gone for weeks though. And you could only, Dolores was saying you could only use the phone, was it once a week? Or did they make exceptions for you because you have kids? They would.

I mean, they would pretty much make an... I mean, I'm sure MJ talked to you about this because her son was young when she did it. Yeah. But...

She was probably happy to be gone. She was gone several weeks. It was hard because he didn't have always the reaction she wanted. Yes. I think when they're younger, it's much more difficult. For me, doing Amazing Race was much more difficult than doing Traitors as far as being away from the family. But they know why I'm leaving. They know what it's for. So they're kind of excited about it. They like to watch the shows and get into it and do stuff.

Your husband, is he a hands-on dad? Very. That's good. Yes. He always totally steps in. Okay. So then you don't worry about these kids because he's got it. He's got it. And you have a nanny? He's fine. No. My mom helps out. My mom will come and help out. So your mom's your nanny? Well, she lives two and a half hours away, but she comes in and helps out if I'm going to be out of town or something like that. For an extended time. So then who's feeding and bathing and taking these kids to school? My husband. But what about when you're home? I do.

And do you divide the roles or no? You pretty much take, when you're home, you're handling it. We divide it pretty well. I mean, he does a lot. He does a lot. That's great. He has a very sad life. Is he at home a lot, your husband? He was because since COVID, he was like partially working from home. He's

Pretty much back in the office now. So, but that's recent that they've started doing like the return to work from COVID. So we're kind of re-evaluating the roles a little bit because he has been around so much and able to help so much. Right. And now all of a sudden you're like, oh, he's not going to be there. Now all of a sudden he's actually gone. Yeah. But no, so whenever I'm gone for a show, Traders, whatever, he's got it handled. He's got it down. It's fine. Now my kids won't look good. Okay. They will, they will look horrible.

So bad. Clothing? Oh, with your husband. Yes. The clothing. I have to put all the outfits out. Don't they do like geranimals still? Like this goes with this and that goes with that? He doesn't know. He doesn't even know whose clothes belong to who. Like he knows absolutely nothing about that. He can't do the hair. The hair is, I mean, it's very, very dire straights.

But other than appearance, he does fine. So you have to lay out clothes. You're not doing this for weeks, are you? No, I didn't do it for that. But like, I'm gone right now. I laid out all of their outfits for the week, for school. Because I can't have him dressing them for school. Because he won't match the shoes. It's not even that. It won't even be seasonally appropriate. What, bikinis don't work in February? It won't even be.

remotely appropriate. Forget matching. That's like the least of the worries. It'll be 14 sizes too small. It'll be holes and things. It's like he doesn't see. It's like visually it just doesn't register as a problem. See Monroe has uniforms. Makes it so easy. You can't fuck it up. Yeah that's easy. Is it a skirt or do they give girls pants? No pants. But we have skirts. Even the boys.

- Very progressive. - It's a very progressive school. - Yeah, so she wears-- - There's a dress. - Little jumper or the skirt. - Yeah, there's a dress and a skirt. - I love, it's like a below deck where they go change into your whites or change into your blacks, whatever, so Monroe's got her options. - Wait, that does make it very easy. - Girls can't wear pants? - No, there's no pants. - That's right. - Stop it. - Or we didn't buy it. There's no pants. - Aren't there boys in this school?

Or is it an all-girls school? No, the boys wouldn't wear pants. She probably could. Wait, the boys wear pants but the girls don't? Yeah. Yes. That's normal. No. This is very anti-male. It's traditional roles. Wow. Okay. Okay. That's how I know of private schools to work. I think that's how they all work. Yeah, I think they just, you know, it's different, the school, because they dress girls like girls and boys like boys. Oh.

What else does she need? Cutting that from the replay. Cutting that from the replay. Speaking of that, I thought, okay, so whenever I started listening to the show and I was always like, oh, I want to be on Jeff Lewis so bad. And I thought, there is no way that program will be on long enough for me to actually make it on the show. Like, there's no way. Isn't it crazy? Because you are like the cat with 900 lives. I know. With the cancellations. You should have been canceled 899 times already. I agree. And look, we're still here.

It's a miracle. Every week we get DMs from you. It's a miracle. Five HR infractions. Five. They have to have fallen off by now. I'm surprised that it's only five.

I know. I'm shocked. A lot of times they can't prove it was me. Right. And you get a lot of passes because people are prepared. People know it about you, so they like most of the time will probably just gloss over it. But I thought there is no way that program is still going to be around. And if I would have waited until after ChumpCon, I would have probably never made it. Because that's going to be the final nail in the coffin, I think. I think they know they can't do anything. Well, they're scared because Chumps will literally burn the buildings down. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't believe you got insured. I know. I know. And by the way. Did you read the fine print? No prostitution, by the way, Doug. Jeff, for some reason, is talking to me. Seriously. I remember the prostitution. No.

Not the lube to the room. What hotel was it? Which hotel was it? Venetian. The Venetian. We can't go back. We can't go. Did you try to book them? Well, Resort World is being very generous with us. They didn't talk to the Venetian. But you cannot. They don't know. No. No. No.

Seriously, I cannot lose my insurance. You cannot entertain or engage with a prostitute. Jeff, it was just a massage. It was just a one-off massage. Very expensive massage. And I'm not the one who ordered a gallon of lube to the room. That was you. There's nothing odd about being in a hotel room and having a masseur come to your room where there is not a massage table. Thank you, Brittany. Present. And just massaging you on the bed. That's completely...

All that travel hurts your back. Yes. Yeah, that long 45-minute flight just really took it right out of your back. It was in a very expensive massage. Very expensive. I think $500 is a little steep for a massage. It's steep. You paid $500? Because I didn't. Do you tip on top or? Just the tip. Just, okay. Just the tip. $500 is just the tip. And you have to give them the money up front.

Yeah, well, I mean... Do you have to give it to them or just show it to them? I think what they would say, at least in the movies, is, let me see the money. Oh, in the movies? Yeah.

Oh, my God. Doug just turned bright red. I actually brought a list of topics, if that's okay. Oh, my God. Wait, Brittany really did. She really did. Brittany was like, how come I didn't stay at the B&B? That was her first question. Can I ask you about your spray tan? Ask me. Go ahead. Where did you get it done? I got it done two days ago at my spray tan place. In Oklahoma? Yeah. You can go darker. I don't want to go darker because then I look...

Spray tanned. She'll look like you if she went darker. Naturally glowing. Annie, what do you think with the spray tan? It's very pale. You think? But it looks good on you because you're blonde and you don't have the dark contrast. You would look like a little orange. I am 14 shades more pale than this. This is very tan to me. Well, because she said she had a spray tan and I just was like, oh. Way to go. Yeah, maybe you did it too soon and it washed off or something. Maybe. I can reapply because I did bring some touch up.

However, this is the look I'm going for, believe it or not. What color are you wearing? I'm like Jameson's color. No, no one is. Ew. Yes, I am. God. He's see-through. Borderline translucent. Yes. That's us. No, we're together in that. Have you ever done a spray tan? This is very tan for me. I haven't, and I was actually just singing. I'm like, I should hit up Monica to get a spray tan. She's at the house right now if you want to come over and get a spray tan. Not today. She sprayed Annie yesterday. Yeah.

I'm going to consider it. I'm curious to see what it looks like. It's such a boost for the self-esteem. I mean, the low point is getting naked for the spray tan. I know. That's the low of your life. I know, I know, I know. Oh my God, you're pasty. And I was just sucking it in the whole time. You're trying to suck in, but things are not looking good. I won't do it. Not a chance. No, you have to for Chocon. No, I'm doing the Chaz Dean ch-ch-ch.

But then if you're shirtless, that's chump. If you're going to be in your Tommy Bahama. He's going to be in a cap tan. That's right. I am going to be in a cap tan. If you're going to be in trunks, you are going to have to. He's not going to be in trunks. We don't know. No. No. No. You heard what Patrika's wearing, right? No. What? The Speedo? Python. It's custom made. Paul's making it for him. Speaking of Speedo, have you seen any Instagram posts?

Post lately. Of whom, Frank? Brittany, I thought we were one and one on our skin tone. I thought we were cool, girl. No, I was actually referring to Stu's.

No, I don't. I think I blocked him. It kind of looked good. I know that he was posting selfies. I heard he was posting selfies during the fires. Oh, cute. Yeah, at the gym. Well, remember when Doug tried to warn everyone that the fires and the winds were coming and we openly mocked the winds on this program. And then, in fact, the fires and the winds did come. It was akin to when you made fun of COVID. Yeah.

And then everyone died. Well, no, Jeff didn't make fun of COVID. I warned everyone about COVID. That's true. You were. Because of me, Chumps bought all the toilet paper. Because you didn't want those Girl Scout cookies coming to your house. I didn't want what? Those.

Those Girl Scout cookies coming to your house. No. So you were warning against the dangers of the door-to-door selling. Okay, but I can't bring that up, Brittany, because that was another potential HR situation. It wasn't potential HR situation. That was a violation. Yeah, so let's... Oh, look at you with your... Brittany legitimately has a list. She's holding a list in front of us right now. You'll see this list if you watch the video. And look, I was...

I would like for you, this is my protect at all costs here at the bottom, and you're number one, Doug. Wow. By the way, that's alphabetical, isn't it? Oh, no, it's not. It's not. Fortune would be second. Protect Doug at all costs. At all costs. He is invaluable to this program. You don't understand how much we love him in Chump World. This is a show, today I am here as your Chump representative.

Oh, okay. And I am a chump, and I'm speaking on behalf of the chumps and for the chumps. I'm asserting myself in this role. Okay. I did not take a vote. This is not a democracy. And protect at all costs here, we have Doug Budin. And name everybody else. Jameson. Jameson, you're on the list. Thank you so much. We absolutely love and adore you. Oh, thank you, Brittany. Jeff doesn't appreciate you enough. Stop being mean to Jameson. Keep going, Brittany. Yeah. Well.

Please don't tell me Oscar's on that list. Oscar. He's not. Nope. Sorry, Oscar. Jameson, I'd like to put in my two weeks. To be fair, it was a very exclusive list. A list of only four. If I had a broader list, like maybe. Oh, it's exclusive. I have to make the list. It's Club 33 type of thing. You actually look tan. Oh, I've been out in the sun lately. Okay. Oh, I forgot you could get tan in the sun. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Does anyone want to ask that? Why he's been outside? Does anyone want to ask? Does anyone care? Can we move back onto my list? Thanks, Oscar. Thanks for that, though. I'm Jackie Schimmel. Yes. Jackie is like my fave. I'm like Jackie, but poor. Have you met Jackie? I'm like real. Oklahoma Jackie. Yes. If Jackie was doing The Simple Life.

Have you met Jackie? Never. But I'm obsessed with her. We'll make that happen. I'm obsessed with Jackie Schimmel. So she's on my list. And then Fortune Feimster. These are the protected all-cost lists. This is the we're going to be nice. You know how we tend to get into conflicts, Jeff?

I don't know what you're talking about. With our co-hosts, and then they disappear forever. They get jacked. You know how that tends to happen? It's Jeff Lewis Live Survivor. This is the four that we can't. Okay. They need immunity. Okay. Immunity. Ultimate immunity. A shield. Yeah, they need a shield because we can't lose these four. So that's Jackie, Doug, and Jameson. That's easy. And Fortune. Oh, and Fortune. That's easy. You can lose everybody.

Wow. Jesus. Franklin. Bitch. I mean, not Shane. Shane, you are like your son. Didn't make the list. No, you're beyond the list. You're actually related. Yeah, you're family. You're family. These are all my, and Kian and Annie. I listened to that one episode where Jeff like,

semi 10% broke up with you, it was so uncomfortable. That can never happen again. Do you remember that sad episode? I don't even know what you're talking about. That's part of the problem. It was worse on air than it actually was. It was like a we need... You asked for space, basically. We need to step back a little bit. And you were semi breaking up with Shane. It was so sad. Yeah.

You don't remember this? I don't even remember it. It was a day of like growth from Jeff. It was just like, it was a little bit of a boundary. It was a lowercase b boundary day. Oh, I've been setting a lot of boundaries, Brittany. This was years ago. Oh, I wasn't setting boundaries then. No. I was crossing them. I think you were actually, I think what it was was you were new in a relationship and you were like trying to like create some space so that you had more alone time with the new relationship. Didn't work. Didn't work at all. Not that go. Yeah.

No amount of time could have fixed that. I only have one really, this is so important question. She has a list of like 10 questions. Wow. When Scott left. Oh my God. I'm interested. Did he take the fish?

Was there a fish sloshing situation? Did he pick the aquarium up and put it in his trunk? And there's maybe fish on the floor? Well, first of all, I broke up with him. Okay. And did he leave in a huffy? He left, yes. With the fish? No, he left everything. Any gifts he left, that was for Monroe. So what happened to the fish? They died. They're all dead. Well, apparently you have to feed them.

So they're gone. They died. They died. They passed away. You died, girl. We moved them from house to house. They were in your current home. You did slosh them from one place to the next? In, I think, Monica's car. Do we have phones today? Have you noticed that the phones break down a lot recently?

All the time. I actually, I've called before when Frankie Grande was on. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Frankie came. What were we saying about your short-term versus long-term memory? I have no long-term memory whatsoever. But I don't expect you to remember every call. What are your other questions? To answer the question you asked me that you just forgot. Yes, we do have phones today.

Oh, good. Yeah, sometimes I do that a lot. I'll ask the question, not listen to the answer. And then move on. And then I'll ask the same question five minutes later. And then you wanted the answer. Yes, we do have phones. Thank you for doing that. You got it, dude. If any of these are a favorite of yours, you can let me know. Okay, I'm sorry. I do have to ask. Okay, tell me. What? What have you been doing in the sun? I'm sorry. I can't. I just can't. I have to. I've just been walking and then trying to figure out some new hobbies. I'm thinking about taking up boxing and that's...

Something I could do outside. That's not outside. Boxing is not outside. The classes that I'm looking into are outside. They're a huge group of people. They just what box in the park. Yeah. And then while we're talking, while we're speaking. Sure. You had told me that you were going to lay off Disneyland for a while and that you were into Universal. But then I saw a post with you and Andy at Disneyland. And me and Andy are going to Universal today. Oh, he's by. Yeah.

So that, I just, because you had put Disneyland on pause, but you obviously, Disneyland came off pause pretty quickly. Well, the reason I went to Disneyland with Andy was there was a new sipper that they were releasing and I wanted it. A new what? Oh, a sipper. A sipper. This is a cup.

It's a cup that usually comes in a nice design. The sipper that they had, or he'll show you right now. A collector item? It's a Captain America shield, and on the inside you can fill it with water, and there's a lid to drink it. Like a canteen. Yeah, like a canteen. It's a big thing for the Disney community. They design all these unique sippers, so it's a big part of it.

So you went back for a sipper? I did, yeah. For $9? Can't you just buy it online? No. That one you have to buy in the park. Those are exclusive park gifts. He probably wants the memory of purchasing the sipper. You know, like he wants to walk in and see the sipper and hold the sipper and take it to the register. Like, it's probably a process, yeah? Yeah. I did a play date with this other mom in my school. Yeah.

Well, Jeff led us there. Let's not forget. No, no, it's about Disneyland. Jeff has moved on now. It's about Disneyland. She was very nice, very generous, like, hey, we're going to be taking so-and-so to Disneyland. Love you and Monroe to come. Here are the dates. And it was four dates, so you can't be like, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy. You can't be busy every day. Right. So I had to be truly honest with her. And so I wrote, hi, and I really do believe this. How many times have we been to Disneyland?

Probably 12. In the last how many years? Four years. I said hi. I took Monroe for her birthday last October, and I swore to myself it was the last time I would ever go to Disneyland. However, I appreciate the invite. I'd love to do another play date soon. I feel like that's acceptable. I know it's does it feel a little harsh, but I want to be truthful. I don't ever want to go to Disneyland again. I don't think that it's too harsh. I wholeheartedly disagree with the sentiment because I...

Yeah, I was going to ask, when you live in Oklahoma, do you come to Disneyland or do you go to Disney World? World. And have you taken the Disney World? And I highly suggest you never do that. What? Because he'll hate it. Disney World is so much bigger. It is so much bigger and so much better, but he doesn't like Disneyland. Thus, he will even more so hate it. I think he'll love the world. No. I don't think so because it's a multi-day experience. I don't want to go. It's taking a Disneyland day, but except for you never leave. I just...

I love Disney World. Don't get me wrong. I love it. I don't think you will love it. I think Jeff would love Epcot though because there's a lot of alcohol drinking around the world. Jeff doesn't want to go to another amusement park. I went to 12, I went to Disneyland 12 times in four years. I'm fucking done. Somebody else will take her. It's just not for you. And I'm also. It is for me but it's not for you.

I'm getting vertigo now. It's a lot of walking. The rides hurt. I heard you talk about that. My back hurts. Oh, God. You cannot get on a rock and roller coaster. I feel nauseous. I dizzy. You'll get snapped right in half. Those dusty bones. You'll just crack, right? Brittany, come back. You will just snap right in half. Well, it was nice meeting you, Brittany. Thank you.

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I have Michael Beck on the line. He's a big Traders fan. Oh, yay. And I think he wants to ask a question. Hey, Michael. Great. Hi, Brittany. Hi, how are you? I'm good, thank you. I'm a huge Traders fan. I just did the Traders experience and I channeled your energy a lot. Oh, I get to do that tomorrow, actually. It's so fun. Okay, good. But I had a question for you. I wanted to know...

What's the trader experience, Michael? I'm sorry. Why didn't you bring me? There was all these gays going, all of Michael's friends. No one invited me. That is so rude. I'm really mad. What is this? It was so fun. It's an experience where you get to go in downtown LA and you get to like go into this mansion and you play the game. And so you go with like 12 people and you actually, somebody's a trader or a couple of people are traders. We're doing it tomorrow, yeah. It's so fun. Just for like the day.

Yeah, it's like an hour and a half. Get those nerves! Do they dump bugs on you and stuff? Okay, we'll talk about that. All right, what's your question? Okay, so I want to know two questions. One is, were you sad to see Dorinda Lee so early? And then two, I'm sure you can't say too much, but what are your thoughts watching it back about Danielle as a traitor?

So I am a massive Housewives fan, Bravo fan in general. I've been watching Bravo since it was age inappropriate for me. Like original OG, day one, Housewives of Orange County fan. Watched all the franchises. So of course I was a huge Dorinda fan, fan of all the Housewives that were there in general. But Dorinda primarily is such like a mega fan.

star housewife. So I was so, so excited to meet her. I was fortunate to be in the car with her day one. So that bought me some time with her. I really, so at the end of the day, I really wanted to invite to Bluestone Manor to come out of that season of the traders. And

And, you know, she got killed so early. So I was lucky to have had her in the car day one. So at least she like even knows my name is great. But I would have never murdered her if I was a traitor. I was so sad that she got murdered because I really was so pumped about meeting her. Now the Danielle comments. What about the Danielle? Didn't you say what was your second question? Oh, how do I feel about her as a traitor? Now that you're watching it.

Watching it back has been really interesting. And I mean, I don't... So she comes from Big Brother. It's just a different world when you come from these like past competition reality shows. It's a different mentality and it's a different level at which you take the game. And so Danielle in particular has a reputation for Big Brother of being like a really...

strategic, cutthroat, social, manipulative player. Like that was her thing. That is what she was known for on season three. She was invited back to season seven All-Stars for that reason, because she was a really good player, but like a strategic player. And so I just think that with her background, it's not apples to apples when you put her in the turret with someone who

doesn't have that background or someone who is not even necessarily like from doesn't have a strategic mindset.

It's just they're going to approach things very differently. Now, she did take it way over the top and like with the seizure that she had last week, for example, or, you know, and in some of the missions and things like the one where you had to take a face down and put a face up. She was doing stuff that just made absolutely no sense. And I mean, I knew that sitting there. I'm like, what is she actually doing? It's not advantageous for you to get up to have to undo your own work. Like this doesn't even make sense.

So she took it to, like, the next level. But my defense would be she has a background in, like, reality competition strategy game. And so that's just what she was trying to bring, if that makes sense. Were you surprised at what a—now that you've been watching it back—what a mess they were in the turret? Yeah. And for people who don't follow traders, you know, there's two people—

that we're talking about who were, or three actually, who were the murderers and they could not agree on anything. On anything. The conversations, they were just screaming at each other. They were going after each other. Yeah, and that had been told to me like after the fact, like, oh my gosh, we didn't get along in the turd. It was a nightmare. It was horrible. But I thought surely it wasn't going to be as bad as what I was being told. And so then watching it, I was like, oh my God, it is that bad. They were a wreck. It was irreconcilable. Like there is just absolutely...

There was no way to repair it after like Jeff's just staring at me because he doesn't watch this show. He has no idea what I'm talking about. I watch episode one. Did you watch it when MJ was on? No. Not at all? I watched a couple episodes. Okay. It's never grabbed me. So good. I try, but it's I know you have to stay. I could tell that she had like a bad fate on the show because she was never talking about it on this show. And everyone who comes on this show talks about whatever they're doing. You know, it's like, oh, watch me on this or, you know, watch Cooking Kibitz, whatever. Yeah.

No one says that. She was never mentioning traitors. And it was airing. And so I'm like, this is so bizarre that she's not talking about traitors. Or why is she not saying, like, watch me on traitors? So I knew she must have a bad experience. So I actually text Dan, who was on her season. Not that you would know that.

And was like, what happened to MJ? And he was like, just watch, just watch. And so I knew that it was going to be bad because of the way she was never talking about it. And then she like had that viral moment where she's walking backwards. And you guys never brought that up. I'm like, how are we not talking about the fact that this meme is everywhere? But was she mad about it or something? Because it literally would never get brought up. And it was hilarious. Yes.

I think she was legitimately upset by it. She had pretty strong feelings about it. By the show, not the creeper. It was so good. No, she did establish a legacy, though. We call that now getting MJ'd. I mean, like, it's a thing. It's a verb. We would use that term, like, oh, don't you think you'll get MJ'd if you go with XYZ? Like, that's like a real thing.

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