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I don't need therapy. I don't need a prayer service. I need the fucking facts. Get to the point. She shut me down. I know. She's like, I don't want this toxic man near me. See, you're a nice person. Don't tell anyone. Well, nobody thinks it, so it doesn't matter. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, it's Jeff Lewis, and I have issues. In today's episode, Mercedes Javid and Jamie Kennedy join the show. Things get tense when I discuss Mercedes' latest comments about ChumpCon, and Jamie gets emotional.
Good morning. Oh, boy. What? We have a show for you today. Well, I mean, you... I have so much to say. Get closer to the mic. But I will decide what we should start with. Okay. First of all, we should be here for two hours today. We have a lot to cover. Okay, well, let's keep going because we only have an hour. Okay. I just want to tell you...
I want to say why ChumpCon was so special. Okay. Here's what it is. And I did a pod about it. When I do the cons, they're amazing. People come to the zoo and they look at the animals and they feed them a peanut.
Jump Con, they jump in the cage. And that's what it is. The cage door was open. Well, 100%. That was Jurassic Park. Yes. And they don't leave. And they don't want to leave. I had such a good time, bro. It looked like everybody bonded on another level. And can I say this? I have so much to say, but I don't want to be. Let me say this. I understand why I almost didn't go.
And you curated it perfectly. What do you mean you understand why you almost didn't go? Because Mercedes, the vibe was the tribe. It was so everyone vibed perfectly together. And inviting me with my...
with my stuff, whatever I am, that could have thrown off the vibe. I get it. Well, here's the thing, Jamie, I haven't been to a lot of- I'm a wild card. I haven't, well, true. And I haven't been to a lot of Trump events with you. So I wasn't sure how, you know, some people get shy, some people get overwhelmed, some people, you know, it's, you know, you're dealing with, it's a lot of conversations, a lot of people, and you did so well. You're so warm, you're so friendly. I got so many compliments
really nice comments about you specifically, Jamie. Really? Yes. It was so sweet. I have to say this. Because Jeff doesn't know what I'm going to do. No, I don't. No one does. He can't control me. But you know how much I respect you. And it was, let me just say this. It was just, it wasn't, I hate to say this, MJ. It wasn't any work.
It was how much work is it to go in and people telling you how much they love you and want to have a shot with you and then hug you and take a picture. We went from thing to thing to thing to thing. I was tired. Yeah. But I was tired of getting love.
And I only got one bitchy moment at the end of the weekend after the crazy after party. We're all in the sardine can. I need one second. And the chump came over. Ventura chump, shout out. And she's like, hi, honey. And I'm like, I really need a moment. And she's like, I'll just be quiet. Can I just sit next to you? And I said, okay.
That's so sweet. She was so sweet. And then I felt bad and I said, how are you? I know what sardine can you're talking about. It was the deck that was bouncing. Well, dude, it was our thing. And then I sat in front because Alyssa and Shannon, fan social, and they were chilling up there. I'm like, I'll let those girls. And then you went up with Ty.
I take two pictures. The next thing I know, the thing's jammed. Your dad's in there. Everyone's cramped. And I'm like, oh, they'll get security. No security. No, it wasn't just chumps. It was the whole club. The whole club. Mercedes, the one thing I will say, with all of your complaints, the one thing you were right about, we needed more security. But it wasn't so much like...
What I noticed is that when you paid for certain events, you can't go to an event you didn't pay for. But a lot of people snuck in and all of that. And there also should have been...
there's certain capacity like on that bouncing deck. You're talking about the one that Doug was saying that was his only moment that weekend was during that deck. Yeah. That deck was a little scary because it got very, very crowded and then it started bouncing and there's, there was nobody saying, Hey, rack capacity. You can't go on that deck. I didn't feel uncomfortable in the deck. I just felt literally, I couldn't move. I have a video. Like it was the most jammed I've been in a club in 20 years, which I,
It was awesome, though. The security thing was a suggestion of the chumps that called in the week of Doug's birthday and your birthday. They called in and said, you guys got to beef up the security for this event. Sounds like you're going to need it. Can I add just two? What changed this weekend is I got emo, dude. I was driving home. I wish I did this show Monday.
I'm so connected. I listen to every show this week. Okay. I'm so connected with you guys. I have my own connection with each one of you and all the chumps. I feel so comfortable with them. That's what this was. This was a new connection that naturally happened. I had talks with Monica. I talked with Doug. It was beautiful. Jamie, you have to admit, like when we curate this kind of...
you have to be a people person. You have to have energy. You have to be also, I'm interested in people, right? So especially chumps because those people, they paid a lot of money. I'm like, what the fuck do you do for a living? I want to know how did you make your money? Where are you from? I actually have a natural curiosity. Oh, for sure. But not everybody does. When you curated the best people,
And I'm not saying you would have been amazing there too. I'm not saying, but I'm saying, no, but you did because of the energy of what it was. We all had moments. We all went off together and I, I was driving home and I go, okay, I understand why I'm 19. Cause I was a wild card. Cause you don't know if I'm coming to come in with ego or, uh,
I didn't know. No. And I have to tell you. I think you were 18, by the way, weren't you? Thank you. Yes, Sarah was 19. I want to say this. This is a compliment to everybody. Chumpland is its own thing. Everyone has their own value system. Hell, Monica did, I think, four fan socials. She was busier than most of us. So-
You don't know what everyone's appeal is. I love everyone. They all have... You have... I was telling you. Movie actors, comedians, influencers, reality stars. Digital entrepreneurs. Yes. DMs. Movie actors? You. Yeah. Shots fired. So... And I just feel like...
You created this beautiful world and I just, I can't thank you enough and I love you. And like, do you think me and Jameson have anything in common? Jamie squared. Yes. Okay. We had some very nice chat. Exactly. I have nothing in common with him. Well, no, cause he doesn't refer to it as chat. And guess what?
I love him. I know. He rubs off on you, doesn't he? I will punch someone through a wall for him. I will strangle someone for him. I love this man. Oh, I wouldn't even make a phone call on his behalf. But
but that's how I feel about all the chump stuff. And the karaoke party, last thing, all these Karen saying, it was so tight. That's what made it amazing. I know, but we need a bigger. No, it was. We did a bigger venue. No, I was freaking out. We were sweating on each other. Yeah, we were. And then Shane pulled the ending out perfectly. One of the greatest nights was a broken. I,
I bonded with Brogan. Brogan was sitting there. He's the sweetest guy. He's clapping. I know. He was cheering Shane on. He was cheering. He was cheering all this on. And then Patrika and Paul go. And it was like, reigning man, verse one. How bad was that? Reigning man, verse two. Reigning man, verse three. And then there was a fourth verse. And I- Brogan took, grabbed the mic. Brogan grabbed the mic and he goes, he goes,
That's it. He was so pissed. Well, they would have kept going. I know. And I turn and I go, Brogan, he goes, no, I didn't know there was four fucking verses. What?
And I was crying. I love them. I was like, I love this man. They literally were clearing out the casino with reigning men. People were leaving the casino and the hotel. You know what? Pull me aside. Paul Small. Yes. Yeah, Paul Small. Paul Small. Paul Small. I love him. I love him so much. He pulled me aside and he said, he says, you're not the worst dress, but I had to pick you because you can take it. Oh.
Oh, that's cute. He was so sweet about it. But Jamie, you went to the mall, you spent $149. Yes. And you kept the tags on the clothes. Were you planning on taking those back? A few things, because Psycho Bunny- You just said we were sweating on each other. You can't take them back to Macy's. That's disgusting. You can't take it back. No, but BWR. What a second. Alyssa told me, buy, wear, return.
Wait a minute. You can do that. No, you can't. Yeah, you can. Wait, wait. Who said buy where return? Alyssa. She does that all the time. Okay, wait. No, no, no. I want to comment. It's $150. I know, but I got so many good deals. When I saw photos of Jamie shaved all the way down, cut back.
I said to you, you may never, ever, ever, ever let your... You've been covering your face. You look 50 years younger. You look so tan. I know. I know. It's ridiculous. You went from 90 to 40, and it's just me. And I can never, ever see you allow yourself to grow in any of this. And since that weekend, you've allowed it to already grow, so you cannot do it. Well... Nothing. You've got to be clean cut. Thank you, and I love you for that. I have to tell you, they make you... You look so good. They make you bring your game. You've hidden...
so much of your youth underneath that. Because we were in a pandemic. The world was crazy. Yeah, three years ago, four years ago. And I was questioning everything. I was questioning my existence. But this weekend, everyone was so fashionable and so good looking. I'm like, I gotta be part of that. So yes, thank you. Yeah, Monica Casey's dress was fire. Monica really turned out. She looked great. Did you call Kelly Dawn and work shit out?
Yes. You talked to her? Yes. Okay, because I want to apologize because I was with Kelly. I thought necklifts were lower facelifts also. I was 100% convinced that a necklift is a lower facelift. So was Kelly. But then I read after the fact that there is a distinction between a lower facelift and a necklift. So I'm sorry because I did –
I was part of that. And what happened was that... I might have started that, actually. Yeah. So this is what happened. So when I heard that...
I was like, the way that they were talking about me is not the way that people that like you or care about you talk about you. So that is what I said. We just, honestly, it wasn't that big of a deal. Like we were joking around like, it wasn't a neck lift, it was a facelift. It's a lower facelift. And I was like, I know, it's a lower facelift. But it wasn't like, we weren't trying to drag you or anything. Everyone's so open about their procedures. Exactly. It's not that...
No one's hiding anything. That's what I said because I'm here with my bandages and I am like...
I'm like literally I can show you my I'm gonna do it right now. No, no, no, we don't need to see it. We don't need to see it Show you what I'm talking about. No, but I already said I apologize to believe you I was wrong. I accept your apology now, but now we're gonna see stitches I don't need to see stitches. I already said but I better do said I already believe her he apologized I'm not I just apologize. I accept your apology today because That way that it was said to me. Yeah made me feel like Okay
That is not like I said, that is not the way that people who care about you talk about you. So if I am so because I am so transparent about the work that I got done and when I
Like, you know how you say, like, the receipts? The receipts are your incisions. Okay, but I think you're missing the point here. First of all, what would be disparaging is if we had said, it's really bad work. She had it done in Mexico, blah, blah, blah. No one ever said anything. We said it was great work. We said you look great. We just said it was a lower... We were wrong. We were wrong because we were confused about what was done. But no one said anything disparaging. So...
So we're not going to spend an hour like... We don't need to. I'm just saying, wait, you guys, that was on Friday. But what we are going to do is if you want to talk about being supportive... Why aren't you letting me answer you, though? You answered it because you'll go on and on and on and on. I already said I was wrong. I apologize. Let's move on. You asked if I made it good with Kelly. Yes. And when Kelly reached out, she said...
you know, stuff about not wanting to be in a bad place with me. And I said, I will listen to it. And if it still makes me feel, you know, differently, I'll let you know. And she said, that's fair. And that's what I thought. Did she apologize? Yeah. Great. And I apologize. She apologized. And I accepted both times. So all I'm saying is that when something happens,
The amount of time that you, like, it was a week later. That's all I'm saying is, like, when I heard it, I thought to myself, if I was going to misrepresent, like, someone said, someone close to me said, you got three procedures. Jamie said you got three procedures. And I was like, oh, he's counting the left tit, the right tit, and the neck. And it was, like, just clarification. Great. You want to talk about disparaging? Do we have the audio from...
MJ's podcast. What I have not heard is what the overall general consensus is. Would you, if given the option, would you have rather have went to Chumpathon or Coachella? Oh, Coachella for sure. Listen, ChumpCon wasn't for me. I could see on the Crystal's IG stories that they were like dancing at the pool. So what do you do at Coachella?
Yeah. And I said, I have no business being it either. At the end of that sentence, I have no business being it either because I am wearing a neck brace, a head pillow and stitches. And that is exactly. But it's not for you. And that's, that's the message I got. It's not for you. And I understand that. I understand that. And I'm glad we know that because in the future, when we do more chump cons, I want to bring people that, that,
want to go that it is for them and that's not for you. And you're apologizing to me but you're also mad at me when I open my mouth to tell you how I felt about it. Because you're not supportive and I have been incredibly supportive of you. Start with the real estate which there's a million real estate agents out there. I gave you a shot. I had no idea what kind of real estate agent you were and I took a big fucking risk hiring you and you know what? I'm
I'm glad I did because you absolutely impressed me and I think you're a fantastic realtor. I have been very supportive. Can you take it down a little bit? Fine. I lobbied for you to get Liat's podcast because I knew that you were the right fit for that.
And I knew that it would be great money for you and your family. I've been incredibly supportive of you. But then when, what you have done behind my back and on your podcast is you have talked negatively about ChumpCon. That doesn't seem supportive. So you can distract right now with the plastic surgery comments. But the fact is, is that you are the one that's not supportive. I wasn't not supportive in the, in the comment of ChumpCon.
Tommy saying, would you see yourself at Chum Con or would you go to Coachella? And he's not asking me. Can I say something? It's not for me. And maybe other Chum events are not for you. Maybe this radio show is not for you. I mean, come on. It's just come on. I don't know, dude. Like why you think we had such a beautiful weekend, Jeff. I'm going to get emotional, man.
We had such a fucking beautiful weekend. Oh, my God. We did. I loved it. I really did. We did. We had a great time. Look at me. Look at me. Look at bitch. I fucking loved it. Why are we so angry? Mercedes, you heard him, but she doesn't mean it. Tell me. I didn't know you were this mad.
I didn't know you were this mad. Again, I've been incredibly supportive of her and all of her ventures, and I don't feel like it's reciprocal. I know. I don't feel like it's reciprocal. Listen, she was just in there telling me how much she thought it looked so good.
And so fun. I didn't hear that part of the podcast. She told me that. Do we have audio on that? Because I didn't hear that. I'm like Amanda over here. I didn't hear that part. Boy, the tables have turned. No, because I'm crying because I had such a good weekend and I was so excited to share it. And then I didn't know you were this mad, but you have every right to be. I'm going to say something about Jeff, why me and Jeff get along so well, and then you should talk. Jeff.
It's all fuck the nonverba. This is what my mother said, God rest her soul. It's actions, not words. It's Latin. Jeff's love language is action. And his actions, Mercedes, this weekend were so giving. First class, private jet, private car, private suites, any food we wanted. And he really goes out of his way.
And I think that if I can help mend this relationship, it's because I think sometimes he feels you don't see that. And she loves you, dude. I know. She fucking loves you. I know. I know. No, it's not like that. And Reza loves you. Reza had beautiful things to say this weekend. Okay. I say when people ask about Reza, I say he is doing amazing. They'll be like, how's Reza? And I'm like, he is freaking doing amazing. And they feel that.
when they check on Reza through me and
Everything can't live inside of a vacuum that I'm sitting with my husband at my podcast table and he's asking me to weigh out which one Coachella's music. Would I rather be watching whatever, whatever band doesn't even matter which one. Or would I rather be when I saw Crystal dancing, I was like, that's not for me. I've never been able to be that girl. She knows everything.
Crystal knows. Well, not everybody was dancing on the ledge of a jacuzzi, just so you know. Right. We're all different people. And it was great. And she had a great time. I know I could tell that it was a really special weekend. And I could tell that it was really amazing. And I appreciate your tears. I could tell it was amazing. I could see that. And the part about the seeing myself dancing, I don't see. I've never been that person. But I also reached out. I felt...
when on Friday throughout the whole weekend and this week, Wynne and I reached out to you
It's hard to reach out to a friend that is not responding to you so that you can even communicate anything. So therefore, I expressed it while I'm talking to someone who was listening, who was Tommy and the Dirties. And at the end of that sentence, I said, sentence, not somewhere else in the podcast. I said, I have no business being anywhere this weekend because I'm in stitches. I can't
I can't turn my neck when I cannot dance. I can't even, if I want to look at Shane, who's sitting two feet away from me, I have to be like turning. You know what? That's it. Here's the thing. What you should have said if as a supportive friend,
It's not for me, but you know what? It looks like it was a great time and everyone had fun and all that. No, you didn't. You did not. And that's the problem. The problem I'm having is that it just feels very unsupportive. This is my business. This is... And I do feel like I...
And listeners don't know this because I don't fucking come in here with a list of what I do for everyone. But I go out of my way like you have no idea how invested I am in you, MJ, and how much I want you to succeed. And I want you to get that shaz reboot. And I want you to become like a top producing real estate agent. Sometimes I don't feel like people want for me what I want for them. And that's why I get triggered and upset.
But 100 percent. But I also when you decided not to have me at Trump con, I did not ever question it. I just said nothing. I'm Jay. Let's be blunt. Were you hurt?
Be honest. Yeah, I did. I called him and I told him that I was. Were you hurt? Yes, I was. Okay, so say I was hurt. Start there. I was, but he gets mad when I tell him how I feel. No, but if you start with vulnerability. Because you never take accountability, ever. That's why I get mad. And that's what triggers me. Jack, this intensity is with you. This intensity is like irrevocable. Once you go to this intense place...
Your feelings don't create space for me to have my feelings. And that doesn't mean that my feelings aren't valid. Okay. Because on the night of, of your birthday at, um, at cook and kibitz, we're,
We were all having, me and Annie and Monica were laughing at the person who said we needed security. I said the schedule was aggressive. I am going to lose my shit if you start this again. I am going to lose my shit because you're not telling the truth. Yeah, I am. No, you're not. You were very negative about ChumpCon, which is why I rescinded your invitation. Yeah.
You can bullshit me all you want. Why? But I heard you complain in this studio. You complained to multiple people. The reason you were not at ChumpCon is 100% on you. On you. You did it. I wanted you there. You were like number seven. Okay, so here's what I have to tell you about this. That was her original number?
She was at a high number. Okay. Was I still in the teens? So the date. You were still in the teens. That's terrible. Wait. I'm kidding. Listen. That's terrible. No, no, no. Can I just say something? Because I thought she was more of a people person. Wait a minute. So that's why she was number seven. She is. Can I tell you? No, I know, but. Of all the Bravo cons. Can I say one thing, MJ, before you say something? Sure. Just hold it for a second. I don't want to cut you off, but you've got to listen. Jeff's angry. It's okay. No, but we have. It's his feelings. It's okay. And you're. Here's what I want to say is. Can I.
Can I just say this? It's really simple, guys. Anger is the top level to hurt. Yes. He's hurt. He's very fucking hurt. He put his fucking lifeblood tears. Him, Michael, Shane, they curated this thing. And MJ, the event was beautiful. Women were screaming, crying. Alyssa lifted up the purse and she goes, I got it. They were like...
Maybe the bottom of my comment. So he's hurt for me. Literally, I was excluded and it wasn't for me. And maybe that is where. What did you expect when you complained? What did you expect? You don't agree. I'm so like so not trying to get you mad at me after I feel like I didn't.
All I did once was tell you the truth. You put your foot in your mouth over and over and over again and you never learned. Not in my opinion because I think. Great. We can agree to disagree. Okay. So what I'm telling you guys is that when that happened, when I tried to express whatever to you, you decide when the conversation is over, you decide what in your opinion was. Because you go on and on and on and say the same points over and over and over again. That's why. Jeff, you also can have full reign to talk about whatever as long as you want to.
And I have been, if you ask anybody at BravoCon, I have been the person that lingers until the very last person has taken a photo. I have significantly like significant, genuine conversations with people. And BravoCon is similar. Sounds like BravoCon is for you. So that's great. I'm just saying my track record deal having fan interactions is genuine. Yeah.
See, like right now, I can tell that Shane is listening, but I know that you're not listening. It's obvious. Mercedes. You just don't. Because I can. This is what I can do. I can take a look at myself and I can say, you know what? That plastic surgery comment that was out of line. I was wrong. Kelly was wrong. I apologize.
You cannot do that. You cannot do that. You gaslight. You make excuses. You turn it around and make it on me. I'm just telling you, I 100% heard you complain about ChumpCon right here in this studio. And I was talking to Jameson. I was talking with Kian. I could hear you complain. So the fact that you now say you don't complain is a lie. I have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to take a quick break. Lavender is back at Starbucks.
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Kelly Dodson on the line. Hey, babe. Hi, guys. Hey, guys. Hey, listen. I didn't even know that was what you were upset about, the necklace. I dated a very ugly plastic surgeon, and I remember him telling me that it was the same thing. It is obviously the wrong thing because I asked my Dr. Nicoli about it, and he said it's a totally different thing. I can admit when I'm wrong.
I was wrong. I misspoke. I thought it was the same thing. And I honestly didn't even know that's what you were upset about. I just want to say thank you because the way that you communicated with me
over text was sincere and I received it very sincerely and I was keeping it 100 to say like when I listen to it I'll hear it and to be honest once I listened to it I was like oh Jeff was being really shady toward me and then he just said he was sorry so that was you know before Trumpcon I think I was carrying that like you guys are out you're having a great time but he said he wasn't okay and
And I accept that. But I will tell you. I accept your apology and sorry if it didn't. Because. When Reza said you were looking really good, I go, oh my God, I can't wait to see MJ because I want a facelift. I'm turning 50 in September. I want a facelift. You don't need a facelift, Kelly. No, you don't. However, I understand where it would be hurtful because you felt we were being shady and implying that you did a lot more work than what you said you did. And I get that. And that's why I'm apologizing. I accept. Yeah, me too. I'm apologizing.
Apologize Kelly and I we've been to apology school. Let me give you the name. Yeah, okay Maybe we can get you enrolled fine I apologize genuinely because okay, go ahead Jamie. Yeah, I said it you apologize Kelly did you have a great? Apology school graduate
We had the best time. Me, you, and your husband. Like, that's another group. I wish MJ would have went. You know, MJ and I are friends. It's not for her. It's not for her. Kelly, I'm over here crying like I'm on the heavy flow day. Were you on the air? No one got the joke. It's a period joke, folks. We got it. What's funny? I haven't had a period in a year. I don't know what you're talking about.
A lot of estrogen in this room right now. Jamie, we got to get you to my hormone doctor. Oh, I want to say that it makes the hair fall out. Oh, I thought that was bullshit. No, it does. It does. Why are you wearing a hat? So listen, Kelly, it was such a great weekend. I thought we were going to recap, but obviously Jeff. Well, Kelly's on tomorrow. But I want to make sure that she and MJ are good. Yeah. Didn't I text you? Yes.
Okay, good. Yes, we're good. Show them the text. We're good. Yeah. See, we're adults. This isn't like, you know. We communicated. Yeah, we communicated. So I'm really, really happy that, you know. I want to acknowledge another thing that I do, and this is, like, totally on me. Like,
All it took was for me to hear that. And then like I paint in the rest of it. Like I decide to color in like, oh, they must have been talking shit about me. And that is where the one liner was. So I can refrain from doing that. And I can take that as like a learning thing. So but anyway, I appreciate your sincerity. You and I are great. And I appreciate everything. Yeah.
Okay, me too. Love you, Kelly. I'll see you later. Another squash and a beef. All right, I'll see you tonight. See you later. Okay, bye. Bye. Line seven, Kristen in California. Before we take that, can I say one thing? No, wait. Oh, let's take Kristen first. Can you remember? Do you want to write it down? I got it. Hi, Kristen. Hi. Hi, chums. Shout out, Shane. Shout out, Kristen. Hi, chum. So it sounds like everything is kind of good right now, so I don't want to like... No. I wouldn't say... No, say what you want to say, please. Okay.
Okay. So my only question is this. Okay. It's for Jeff, of course. Yes. Sorry, I'm nervous. So Jeff, did you ever actually hear what MJ said to get her disinvited from her mouth? Yes, I did.
I did. Yes. Correct. Yes. Kristen, that's a very good point. Yes.
Yes, I heard several people. Usually where there's smoke, there's fire. However, what I have learned, unless I actually hear it with my own ears, you're absolutely right. And I did. But there's something here. There's a note here that said, have you ever talked to MJ directly? And this is the reason why I took your call, Kristen, because MJ and I were just talking at the break. We need to sit down, she and I, alone and like,
hash this out. And I'm not leaving until I get an apology, Kristen. So we might be there for a long time. It might be a weekend. MJ tried a lot, or not a lot, but she sent you a real text, but you can see where Jeff was. It was not, it would not have been meaningful. I'm not ready to, I wasn't ready to hear it. It's hard for me too. So I am sorry because when I want to talk to you, I want to be able to talk to you without being like,
you're busy, your headspace is somewhere else. Yes, you're right. And you're busy and you're not... And, like, I also don't want our relationship just to be, like, the chump events that we used to have. We used to have, like, Memorial Day. We used to have more nights that we were all hanging out together. And, like, now I think your schedule is busy. And I was talking to Liat about this, and I was like, you know, I just feel like we...
I don't want to be a burden on a friend, but I do need to butt into my friend so that I can communicate with my friend and let them know. And I've said this to you, Palm Springs. I was like, why don't we go and do dinners? Why don't we do... You know what I mean? Those are where we could have more than...
a one second exchange. But again, you have to take accountability because when a friend is unsupportive and speaks negatively about another friend's event, that's very important to them. You can understand what that person maybe doesn't want to have dinner with them or sit down with them. That person probably just needs a break. I apologize because I apologize because I have to learn that if I'm being like
fast and loose. Like we're so sarcastic here and it's so fun. And we're, I think we are just such a safe, comfortable, sarcastic, snarky us like being together. So I am a hundred percent sure that whatever I said was just me being like,
funny or not but like well we heard the audio earlier I don't think it was being funny no you're talking about the stuff I said in the studio here you said that you heard me here complaining about the logistics I don't think that was like a joke I just think you were like questioning it wow this is a lot of responsibility and it was yes and a lot of events and Bravo con paid me more and blah blah blah no I didn't maybe I did okay sorry I don't want to backpedal yeah you did um it will
But I do want to acknowledge and be accountable for...
making sure that I am not disrespecting or hurting my friends or peers or like yucking anyone's yum. Well, you did. So I am sorry for that. Thank you. I apologize. And I accept your apology. Kristen, we're making real headway over here. That was important. Oh, get that! I mean, who knew that Kristen in California was going to facilitate a reconciliation? You need to be a mediator, Kristen.
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