Mickey Guyton & Zach Noe Towers: Write-Ups & Hypotheticals
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I don't need therapy. I don't need a prayer service. I need the fucking facts. Get to the point. She shut me down. I know. She's like, I don't want this toxic man near me. See, you're a nice person. Don't tell anyone. Well, nobody thinks it, so it doesn't matter. Jeff Lewis has issues. Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Mickey Guyton and Zach Noe Towers join the show. We talk about TikTok advice, Shane's patience, and employee write-ups.

Does everyone know who Mickey is? Yes. Black Like Me. I know that song. It's so funny. It's like, it will make me tear up and I'm like, obviously white like me. You know what I mean? It's okay. But also like the whole like being different on the playground. I think gay boys can relate to that. Absolutely. Black girls were some of my first like best friends in elementary school. And so that song is like really. I could be your best friend.

Let's do it. She's already so fucking funny. You have to ask her what she was craving when she was pregnant. Gosh, we'll get there. Okay. So you are a Grammy-nominated artist. Yes. So you're a performer, but you also write. Yes, I do. And you were the first black female performer to perform at the Grammys and be nominated for a Grammy in the country.

Correct? Yes. In the country category. The sector. Country sector. Oh, yes. Okay. And then Beyonce came in and was like, bitch, it's mine. You're very cute in person. Thank you. But your photos are...

Clearly. Clearly. No, it's not that. It's just that I felt like I thought you were older, but then when I see you in person, you look, I mean, this is good. You look better in person than you do in your photos. A lot of people say that. A lot of people say that. Yeah. I mean, you look like a baby. Thank you. But you're not. Yes, I'm not. You're a grown up. I'm a grown up. Yes.

Now you have a baby. I do have a baby. He's four. He's the cutest thing you've ever seen. Grayson is really, really cute. Grayson. He is. He is. But we were talking about Reddit and how people sometimes will come for you and they'll try to hurt you by saying things about your kid. Yes. And that is very upsetting because then if they feel like they get a rise out of you, then they'll continue. Yes. But I think even the Reddit trolls, they will...

sometimes know when they cross the line. Yes. So what I have found is when anybody says anything about your kid, other people will attack. Yes, absolutely. So you kind of don't have to do anything. And it's like when they did attack my kid, it was like, you know what? Look at him. He is not ugly. My kid is actually really, really, really cute. So it was just like whatever. And your husband's real tall. Yes, he is. He's 6'4". And he's a lawyer. Does he have a brother? He does, but he is not.

I love you, Jared, if you're listening, but no. Do you get along with your in-laws? Well, my husband's dad died, so I wish. So yes, that one. Yes. In spirit, yes. Okay. And then what about, is his mom alive? His mom is alive. It's complicated. No, I do not get along with her. Okay. That was fun. Okay.

Not as complicated as you think. Now, his brothers and sisters? He has one brother and like... And you like him? I do. I love him. I love Jared. Jared is great. I do. I really, really do. He's just wild and on the loose. Do you have siblings? I do. I have two sisters and a brother. And you get along with them? I do, very much so. Okay.

Okay, that's good. Are you the baby? And all my in-laws. No, I'm the oldest girl and I have an older brother. Oh. Shout out to the second born. We are the superior. It's like we did the shit and it's dead for sure. Like we just like. But it makes us stronger. It does make us stronger. It builds character to be that person, that middle child.

Mickey, you don't know this, but a lot of times, like, if Jameson, if you're making a phone call, customer service, whatever, he gets confused for a woman. So talk a little bit just so she knows. This is the sound of my telephone voice? I would not. And your regular voice. I would know exactly. But no, no, because you're looking at him. And I'm so masculine. But...

It's not that. Now, Zach also gets confused. I also get ma'am. Yes. You get ma'am? All the time. I'm like, who am I doing with? Zachary Towers. All right, ma'am, what can we do for you today? Stop it right now. No, I'm like, my name is Zach. There's someone else to add to the club. Yeah. Shani. Hey. Yay. We piled into a car, and there were several people, right? So the guy was driving, and Shane asked a question, and he said, yes, ma'am. Stop.

Stop it. You can see a mirror. I'm right here. I don't get it. I really think I would know. It's your man. Because you see them. But I don't. I can always tell when I'm talking to a gay man on the phone. Because I love gays so much. That could be fair. What do you think of these gay choirs?

- I love it all, listen. - Really? - I love the gays, I do. - You should be in the gay choir. - I feel like I should be. 100%, I would love that. - Does the gay men's chorus ever have female pop singers drop in? - Yeah, people come and get us all the time. - There you go. - I swear to God. - My boyfriend's in the gay men's chorus. - See, that's beautiful. I swear in my other life, I was a gay man. - There you go. - For sure. - Please don't ask her.

Don't obligate her to do the gay man's chorus. I'm not asking anything. Okay, if you were thinking that. But if she'd like to come. I would love to. They just had their spring concert and their next one is the summer. And the theme is it'll come to me by time I'm done with the sentence, but it didn't. Oh, that's all right. Here's the thing though. You said that you got your start in the church choir. Oh yeah. Okay. I would imagine that they include people that have talent, right? Yeah.

So with the gay chorus, it's more about their looks, how they look in a speedo, are they hung. And it's different qualifications than the church choir, I would imagine. The church is very different. The church isn't necessarily talent. It's like if you feel the spirit.

That is true. Yes. I was in it. I'm no good. Did you get discovered? How did you get here? So, how did I get here? So, you know, I loved music and...

It's something that was a huge passion of mine. So once I graduated from high school, I actually moved. I looked on the map to try to see where I thought music could work for me. Nashville just did not seem at the time an opportunity. So I moved to L.A. and I wanted to get away from the South. You know, being a church kid,

My parents were deacon and deaconess. I've had enough church for everybody in this room. And then some. And you know, the church trauma and the guilt and all of that. So I just wanted to get away from that and come to L.A. And I befriended a woman named Jessica Bendinger who wrote Bring It On and Stick It. And she became one of my really good friends. You mean Bring It On the movie? The movie. That's one of my faves. One of my faves. It's such a good movie. It really, really is. And I was... She was...

She wrote this book and was asking me to do demos for the book. And she was like, Mickey, does people tell you that you sound like Carrie Underwood and you sing country music? I was like, well, I love country music. I grew up on country music. That's something I always loved, but I never thought I would ever have the opportunity to do that. And one thing led to another where I met this guy named Julian Raymond who introduced me to a manager and I was off to Nashville. And I was like, peace out, L.A.,

And now I'm back. How long did that take? Because... Long time. I moved to Nashville in like 2012. But how long had you been in L.A.? I'd been in L.A. about five years. I was out here for going to school. And you're from Texas? Waco, Texas. Like Joanna Gaines, Waco, Texas. You ever been to the Roundup? I have not been to the Roundup. I have not been to the Roundup. I know. Because you say you love the gays, but you haven't been to the Roundup. I have not. Well, when I moved, I wasn't allowed to go to that kind of stuff. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Well, you'd have a great time. I 100% would. They've got three different rooms. They've got all things going on. They've got all things. They've got karaoke. They've got line dancing. They have drag shows. She's too good to do karaoke, though. I actually love karaoke. My go-to is Britney Spears. Okay, I'll allow it. Sometimes. I can do a Britney Spears impersonation.

Could you imagine if she got up and did karaoke? I would not go after her. Nobody would go after you. You should. No, the thing is with karaoke is like you're not supposed to be serious. Like it's supposed to be, you're supposed to sound bad. You're not supposed to go up there and be like. Says the professional singer in the room. But I sing Britney Spears. It's a real thing. I really do. Yeah, and I'm sure you're terrible. No. Yeah. No, she's not bad, Britney. Britney, if you're listening. Shout out, Brit.

All right, so you're in L.A., and you go to, did you go to Santa Monica Junior College? I did go to Santa Monica College. And you studied music. It was so nice there. I know. That's a beautiful campus. I know. I'm hoping my daughter will get in. I believe she will. She's not looking good. I don't know. No. It's questionable. Yeah, so I was actually going to school for business. Like, that's really what I was. Wow, smart. I'm smart. That's right. Shane, did you hear that?

I mean, I'm impressed. You should be. Are you good at the business stuff, though? Like, you're an artist. Yeah. As time has gone on, like, I can be if I need to. But you don't? No. No.

Answering emails and stuff like that, it's just really... It's not why you were put on the search. No, it's not. Now, if you want me to be your cheerleader and help you out and open doors for people, I got you. I'm a connector. That's something I really love to do. I love to help other people and other artists in the industry with all the connections that I've made. That's something I love.

Actually love doing. I'm sorry if I'm staring at you. You are so pretty. Isn't she pretty? Thank you. I just keep staring. Sorry. I must look really ugly in my picture. I need to consciously look away. Is that what you're saying? No, your pictures aren't bad. You just look so good in person. Thank you. I appreciate it. But I have to keep like, you know how you stare too long? It's weird. You can look at me as a palate cleanser. All right. So then how do you support yourself when you're out here?

So out here in LA? Yeah, at Santa Monica Junior College. Oh! Not now. What? I worked two jobs at the time. So I worked in a retail store and I also... Which one? It's not here anymore. BB. I used to work there. Oh! Yeah, and I used to work at this cigar club. It was like this all men's only cigar club that was... Did you get harassed within an inch of your life? Oh my God! And like the thing is like I look back now like the times that I was like

Like the sexual harassment was like really, really bad. And like I didn't know that it was wrong. Well, what are you doing working in a cigar store? Yeah, but I wasn't like one of, I was not some girl that was like, hey. Yeah. Hey, old man, give me your money. That was not me. I was like literally I would work my one job, go to school, and then come back and work from 6 to midnight. And I would have my laptop and my notebooks and I would be. Studying. Yeah. While you're at work. While I was at work.

Yeah. And you did that for how long? I did that, oh my God, for like four years. And then you found a sugar daddy. My baby daddy. He was not my sugar daddy at the time. We were both really piss poor, but yeah. How did you guys meet? So he is my ex-best friend's stepbrother.

Ex best friends. Why is it an ex best friend? Because she is a horrendous person. What'd she do, bitch? She 100% is, and if she's listening, that is fine. She just was a narcissist, and, you know, I'm...

Someone that, you know, I'm not a confrontational person and I think she took advantage of that. And she tried to get in the way of my marriage to my husband. That's her brother. It's weird, weird shit. Does she like her stepbrother, your husband? I don't think so. I think she was just jealous of our relationship. She didn't want you to be happy because she wasn't. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that was the course of our whole friendship. And I was able to see it finally. And I was like, no. She was jealous.

Something. I get all of my inspirational quotes from TikTok. There's some good inspirational quotes. It's a good place. Well, Oprah said, I mean, I saw one with Oprah and she's like, you can't be- Oprah the famous TikToker? She is a famous TikToker. I see her a lot on TikTok. And she was saying, you can't be friends with someone who's even a little jealous of you. No. A little jealous of you. No, you can't. I get a lot of, you know, some great information from Matthew McConaughey. Mm-hmm.

Oprah, Sharon Stone, Joey Zausig. No, all the greats. All the greats. I learned a lot. Speaking of Joey Zausig, so you don't know this, Mickey, but we're putting on this big convention. It's called ChumpCon. Do you know what a chump is? I don't. Okay. A chump is basically a listener or a co-host here. It's a term of endearment. Okay. So we're doing ChumpCon.

And I've got 19 chumps appearing, scheduled to appear. And they're all being paid. They're all being paid 10 grand for the weekend. So when everybody signed their contracts, I issued a 50% payment.

Did you get your payment, Zach? I did. You know why you got your payment? Because I'm a good boy. Because you immediately sent us your wiring instructions. Oh, yeah. And so as of about a week ago, we had reached out to Joey for his wiring instructions. He said that you can talk to my team. So we reached out to his team and we went from person A to person B. And then they started asking questions like what were the payment terms. Fine. Okay. We answered. But

just give us the wiring information so we could send the money. We followed up again for the third time last week. Was that like Wednesday? The 25th. Okay. So then I said, we're not going to ask again.

If you don't want to get paid, we won't pay you. But I'm not going to keep chasing you down for your wiring instructions. It's now been seven days. No wiring instructions. If someone wants to give you money, Mickey. Crazy. Oh, I'm signing up right away. You're going to get my wiring instructions. Here is my wiring instructions. My email literally just had two rows of numbers. And thank you. Yeah. That was it. It's in my signature. It's my account number. I just don't want to find it. So.

So insane that no one has sent us the wiring instructions. So he hasn't been paid. And then Shane asked me yesterday, you want me to follow up? I'm like, no. No. That is wild to me. Like, give me that 10 grand. Like, I'll be a chump. Yeah. You are. Good answer. You're becoming one right now. Am I becoming a chump? Yeah, you're a chump. Oh, God, that's exciting. You're a chump. Pretty chump. Thank you. Sorry, I'm going to look at Zach. Nice.

Shane, I do want to give you credit where credit is due. I drag a lot of these people on the daily and I do criticize their work performances, but I've actually started to pay a little bit more attention to what Shane does.

I can't believe your patience dealing with a chumps be just in the, just out in the world. I have so much insulation on purpose, which I'm sure you do, which I'm sure you do. So I'm insulated from all this shit, but I just, I watch him now and I'm listening. I don't know how you don't lose it. Just scheduling a car service.

It takes 15 minutes. I could see how for you that's quite a ride because for Jeff it's a one sentence. Hey, schedule a car service for Tuesday for da-da-da-da. He didn't know. No, it's a nine-minute phone call with this company. But he was so impressed. And I was like, Jeff, don't you know what I do every day? I deal with you and all of these people. I'm just like, you know, I do. I am a patient person now. When's your birthday? January 5th. He's so patient. Yeah.

Alexis is your... She's your PR team, part of your PR team. Yes. And I'm sure she does a lot of this bullshit. You don't seem like the kind of person... You seem like me, where you would lose your shit. Not... I mean, you seem like somewhat of a nice woman. But I feel like... But I feel like you would lose your shit. Not somewhat. I mean, it's crazy because...

In life, like sometimes people are so slow, right? Why is that? And it's really frustrating. So the car service lady was so beyond slow. She just talked slow. Oh my gosh. And then what's the name? Okay, could you spell that please? Okay, well just to confirm, I'm like. Oh.

I'm like, it's Ty. T-Y. That's it. Shane, I don't know how you don't hang up on these people. Yeah. No, you would not have completed that call. Why does it take so long to book a car service? She was usually like, it's a four or five minute call. This person, it was nine minutes. She was exceptionally slow. And everything was repeated and everything was wrong and everything had to be redone. It was kind of crazy. Maybe she's part of Joey's team. Oh, God.

Arnold Armstrong, bitch. Now, Annie.

Sweetie, I got to call you out because I figured out something on Friday. So I was out of town. I was in Dallas at the Roundup Thursday night. Thank you very much. And also my son, he did an amazing performance karaoke. You'd be impressed with him. But he's like Madonna where he doesn't necessarily, like she's talented. But sometimes, you know, there's certain performance artists that they have these really amazing,

amazing, amazing voices. I feel like Madonna, it's everything. Showmanship. It is. He's more showmanship. That's a vibe. Yeah, it is a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a path, for sure. It is a huge path. Okay, so, sorry, I deviated from this, Mickey. So, Annie orders lunch often. Okay. And as you know, here in LA, you guys, you were having Subway for breakfast, which I...

Cozine. It smelled so good. It's so good. Yeah. Alexis was eating her footlong. From last night. That looked delicious. You just got all the toppings, didn't you? Did you get avocado? Yeah. So good. Oh, she's looking for avocado. So Annie orders our lunch. And the thing about it is that, you know, there's different franchises with different locations. And-

and I try to choose the ones that's closest to the house. So when was the one you ordered a few weeks ago, Annie? I ordered, I think it was California Chicken Cafe off Melrose instead of Beverly. Is that the one where we had to drive to Westwood? Yes, that's what you're thinking of, but it was from Hancock Park, and I had to go pick it up from over there. So I said to Annie, you know, everybody makes mistakes, and just next time make sure you get the right,

the right restaurant, which is the one close to our house. And people get very hangry at my house if you're not eating by 1230.

So on Friday, apparently, you ordered from, was it the Ghost? Chick-fil-A. Ghost Sando. No, Thursday, Ghost Sando. Ghost Sando. Oh, yeah. Do you know that you didn't order from the one on Melrose? Is there one on Melrose? You ordered from the one in Burbank. Did I really? Oh, my God. Oh, that's a soggy sandwich right there. How do I do that? Oh, my God.

I don't know any. Because they should be saved in the app. So I just go, la, la, la, order. So I called up Aurora because we noticed the receipt said Burbank. I'm like, why is she ordering food from Burbank? Burbank, you know because you're from LA. It's what, 35 minutes from here? 40 minutes from your house. It can be. I mean, or worse, depending on the traffic. Yeah. So I called Aurora, who's my housekeeper, and I said, hey, what time does lunch get there on Thursday? And she goes-

Jeff, so late. 1-1-15. What a rat. I said, that's because Annie ordered it from Burbank. And she said, next time I'm just going to order from Nicaragua. That's where she's from. I thought she was my friend. Clearly not. So Annie, this has happened twice now that we know of. Hmm.

So I don't know if you should be ordering lunch anymore. Honestly, please take it off my plate. I don't like doing it. The pressure. Yeah. Do you have these kind of people in your office? You know, sometimes it's me. I can really relate to you on that. Like I'm with you on that. Like I will definitely, especially for my husband. I'm very independent, by the way, if anybody doesn't know, like I'm,

I'm not a patient person. And so like that phone call that you were on would have drove me out of my mind. So like, I'm just like, I'll just do it. I'll just do it. I'll just order. And I'm not necessarily paying attention. I'm like, you know, two hours later, I'm like, where is my freaking Postmates? And then I realized I ordered from Nicaragua. Right. Right.

Or Burbank. I don't know what's further. Or maybe just start ordering at like 10 a.m. or whatever. But we don't know. Shane and Jeff never tell us if they're coming home for lunch until literally like 11.30. And then we find out we have to order, then we got to get everyone. It's on our whole thing. Because on Thursday we were in Dallas. So you could have ordered from Dallas. Yeah. Okay. Well. Whatever.

Now, you were on American Idol. I did. Season 7. David Archuleta was here last week. Oh, my God. Yeah. He was a runner-up, correct? Yes, I do remember that. Okay, so you didn't make it, obviously. No, I did not. I did not. But it's crazy because you have the most amazing voice. You know, it was a terrible experience for me, honestly. You know, shows like that, like, they're beautiful, but they're very... They're looking for a very specific thing. And there's, you know, it's...

casting, basically. But you're hot. Why wouldn't they want you on? Maybe I wasn't that hot back in the day. I don't know. Do we have pictures of her? I didn't have a story. She needs to be hot with a mom who had one leg and a cat. Yeah, I needed to have someone like a death in the family. Oh, you don't have a sad story. I didn't. I was just like, I married this tall, handsome attorney. Exactly. I didn't have any of that at the time. I was just like, I just wasn't sick. It was really, really, really hard. How far did it go?

Did y'all need to just bring up this American Idol trauma for me? Okay, so once again, hotter in person. Well, you look much younger now. Yeah, why do you look so young now? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, it's one of those. I haven't done a thing. A lot of water. A lot of water. I did do a facial this morning. Okay. I guess so did Jeff probably. Yesterday, you asshole. What?

Anyway, what were we talking about? American Idol. Yes. All right. So how far did you get? I got top 50.

Okay. Yeah. I got far, but it just, the whole experience just, you know, I just didn't enjoy myself. Well, meanwhile, also with those things, like sometimes they have the top like 20 already selected when they go into it. You know, like people have reached out and made deals with stuff to like secure spots. You know, it's all very cast. I mean, who knows? Like, you know, I just, I don't know, but they have their things. You're too confident.

You were too confident. You need to go in there like beaten down, playing victim, where they felt sorry for you. Probably come from a nice family. I have a great family.

- It's a great family. - See that doesn't work. - That doesn't work. - I'm an American Idol. - Like I need like a drug addict fat father or something. - Why you looking at me? David Archuleta, what was his story? - He was just like this cute, yeah, like in the church. - Oh, Mormon. - Clearly in the closet, just like with his cute family. - But he's out now, right? - Yeah. - I don't wanna rub it in, but he won a car.

He won a car. A fucking car. That's all he got? What are you talking about? He got a Ford Escape. He still has it. You have to pay taxes on it. Stop it. He still has it. Stop it. I don't remember what... He got a car.

What'd you get? Why are you trying to rub it in? Jack shit is what I got. You got nothing? You didn't get paid? Nothing, nothing. You get a gift bag? Nothing but trauma. Like, that whole experience was just not awesome. Wow. You think you should have gone further? No, I don't think that at all. Oh, you think you should have won? No, no. I don't think that either. I just think, you know, everything's supposed to be the way it was, and I accept it. Like, I wasn't one of those people that I...

I should have done this. Or there was some conspiracy theorists. Like there's just other people they thought were more interesting. In case people are wondering, the winner that year was David Cook. Yeah. And then David Archuleta was the runner up. Yeah. But he got a car for being a runner up. The top two always got a Ford. Like all he got was a car.

Yeah. Are you serious? That's a lot. A car? It's a lot more than you got. Yeah, that's true. Oh my God. That's true. We should give her a Skechers gift card. But all that work and all you get is a car? Like, that was a lot of freaking work. I'm sure he got more than that. He got exposure. Yeah, that's true.

I don't know. Well, I agree with you. Like, I think as you, you seem pretty evolved. Thank you. You understand that later, later in life where we try to control everything to happen when we want it to happen and then we realize that it's all supposed to come when it's supposed to come and the timing wasn't right and you weren't ready for whatever reason. The universe didn't think you were ready to be famous. Clearly not. So here I am. Sorry, but now they do. You're kind of the Simon of this show. Of this show? Uh-huh. Yeah.

Thank you. Yeah. Laurel in Los Angeles, line one. Hi, Laurel. Whoa. Hello, finally, finally. Can you hear me? Oh, I'm sorry, Laurel. Finally. Did I leave you on hold for too long? Can you roll up the windows in that car?

Are your windows down? Are you on a jet ski? No. I'm driving. I'm on the five. I'm driving home. And Jeffrey, why are you dragging all your staff?

Why are you doing that? You have been in a bad mood for quite a while. I'm not in a bad mood. I'm not in a bad mood, Laurel. I just have very little tolerance and patience. Like I said, I'm no longer running a daycare center. I'm not interested in running a preschool. I'm just I have no tolerance and I'm setting boundaries and I am I'm sticking to these boundaries and I'm enforcing these boundaries. And nobody likes that. What?

Which, by the way, I learned from Sharon Stone. You know what she said? What did she say? She said, the second I started setting boundaries, I lost friends. And my circle shrunk, shrunk, shrunk, shrunk. Probably for the better. My circle is shrinking. Probably for the better. Because I set boundaries. You've got to set some boundaries. So I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an asshole. I just want people to do their jobs. That's all. The problem is... Oh, go on. Go ahead, Laurel. Okay, wait. Okay, look. First of all, I want to give a shout out to Jameson. Jameson, I went to the...

I'll take your word for it.

Yeah. They're gorgeous. It sounds absolutely gorgeous. Are you hard of hearing, Laurel? This is a lot of work. Yeah, were you on the five when you were listening to them? Wait, Jeff, this is the problem with your staff. You have hired a bunch of hot 20-somethings. Thank you. You need trolls in their 50s. Everybody is really beautiful here, I will say. It's really nice. I don't know. I don't understand why I can't have both. Why can't I have competent people that are attractive?

Because hot people aren't supposed to be competent. You hired someone attractive. I did. Yeah. And I'm sure you had a choice. And I'm sure you had a choice of hiring a troll. And you hired the hot. I hired the best one for the job. And you hired the cute one. You know?

I did. She just so happened to be cute and competent and hot. I think what people want to know is what happened with Kian. So Kian got, I spoke to my attorney. My attorney wrote up Kian for all the infractions last week. He received it. He reviewed it. He signed it. And he was, he was, I will say he is extremely remorseful. He did try to reach out to me over the weekend a couple of times. I said, look,

Let's just move on. You know, we're just going to forget, even though I'm not going to forget. Yeah, you're not going to forget. You're never going to forget, Vicky. You probably framed the write-up. It's like on your office wall. I do like write-ups. I do like write-ups. I don't know what it is. I had fun with it. I bet. The only thing hotter than Vicky? A write-up. Right.

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You were saying that the gay chorus performance is coming up because we've decided we're going to go. Okay, great. I'd love you to be there. Can we go backstage? That's not a thing that happens. Why? How do we meet all the cute guys? You can meet them afterwards. They all come out after and you can say hi to all of them. And they get to see their cheering crowds. It's very sweet. And then is there like an after party or something? I guess they get together. The biggest circle jerk you've ever seen. Laughter

Probably for some of them. Sunday, June 22nd at 3.30. Yeah, and it's right here on Wilshire. You'll love it. And what did I say it's called? Dancing Queens. Dancing Queens. Oh, at the Saban Theater. It couldn't be more convenient. Yeah, it's going to be right here. Oh, it's right there? Right on Wilshire. I could walk across the street. Is there an intermission at these things? There is. So it's like about two minutes and 15. How long is the whole? Yeah, you're right. Excuse me, two hours, 15 minutes. Too long for you. But it's music. Which is your first half. It's all music. Or second half. I bet they're going to stack the second half. Yeah.

But it's all quick. It's not like they're not giving monologues or anything. It's just me. Is it family friendly or is it like pride? Because that can be a little risque. It is designed to be family friendly. I think some families would say some of the men sometimes in the dance numbers, because they'll have some guys dancing, sometimes they are dressed a little risque. So some families in some parts of the country would maybe not qualify. You said some parts of the country, yes.

Would you ever go to that, Mickey? Absolutely. I would love to go to that. It's 100% something I'd love to do. I got a question for you. So if your husband wasn't some big shot attorney, and let's just say that he is a musician like you, a performer.

And he is in the gay, well, if he was gay, but he's not gay. If he was in a choir. These are a lot of what ifs. A lot of ifs to get to. Maybe you're thinking of a different person. And then you're now, you go to the performance and you realize that your husband's solo comes on. And then he kisses his co-star or co-lead. But he doesn't tell you. And you just kind of find that out when you're watching it. How do you respond to that?

I'm here. Okay, I'm going to chime in. You're a gay man. You're me. You're me. And my boyfriend had a duet, and so at the end they just did a cute little pact. Okay, that's context. That's context. That's different. See? Why do you need to kiss someone in choir? There was no tongue. It was a short text. Did you ever do that at church choir? Listen, okay, I'll tell you what. So my husband...

First of all, I was very, very supportive when we were dating. He used to go with me to Gay Pride here in West Hollywood and he would wear purple pants and hold the flag. Like he's so, so supportive. And so I got offered to do like some show or some movie. I didn't end up doing it. And it was like, I don't know. It was like a three week. I had to film for three weeks and like they said, well, you're going to have to kiss your co-star. So I called my husband and I was like, I said, baby, like,

they want me to kiss my co-star. And he was like, well, how much are they going to pay you? And I said, well, they're going to pay me $250,000. He's like, well, for $250,000, you better pucker up. Okay.

Okay, that's a really good point. How much should they pay Frank? He pays to be part of it. Oh, so he paid to kiss the guy. Oh my God. He pays dues, yeah. Gay for pay, huh? Exactly. What are his dues? I don't know what they are. But it's like, that's how it's designed. I didn't tell you it was Frank's idea to kiss at the end. It's the art. It is. It was sweet and he's such a great singer and I

I thought you were going to say great kisser. The context is a lot different. Like, the context is a lot different. He did a great job. Don't think it's necessary. Heterosexual relationships, like, girls are, like, freaking crazy. I'm crazy. Like, if it were me and I didn't know, I would...

Throw hands for sure. Why didn't you fucking tell me you were kissing? You know what I mean? Like there would definitely be like a problem. Massive. But context, I get it. Hypothetically. Yes. Your husband's gay. Your husband's not. No, hypothetically, your husband has some sort of like, okay, let's just say your husband, you're right, the husband doesn't work. It doesn't. All right, so let me just tell you, hypothetically, if Jameson's boyfriend went to a gay choir weekend, okay, and it was nine minutes, it's a retreat.

nine minutes from his house, but he spent the night. They all spend the night and they all camp out and they all party and dress up. I'm fine. Like, honestly, I feel like if you guys have a- Jeff literally is stirring a pot that is nowhere near the stove. If you're an insecure person and you've gone through, like, cheating trauma, which I have, like, I would need, like,

phone calls and stuff, but like at this point, y'all seem like y'all have like a very... What are you doing after midnight that you can't come home? I hope he's drinking. I hope he's partying, hooting, hollering. You know what I mean? Yeah, nine minutes away. Like, come on. I mentioned to Ty yesterday and he's like, nope, uh-uh, that would not be happening. No? But he's with his friends. I asked him, I'm like, so it's nine minutes from my house. This is what you talk about, Ty. It's a gay retreat. But it's a retreat. This is what I talk about. No.

It's a retreat, though. Like, you're supposed to stay. You're supposed to bond with each other. You don't need to stay the night. I can shower at home, thank you. And I can show up the next morning. I don't need to sleep in bunk beds. You are a wet blanket. You are so lame, dude. I'm getting a reaction, which is what I've been waiting for.

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