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free money free money is out there just go get it by starting your podcast today okay so today's we have a little gang story so this is a story between the black disciples or the bds and against the disciples the gds so on bd's side we have
Odell O.D. Perry and Davon Bennett, better known as King Von. And on GD's side, we have Shondell Gregory, better known as Tooka,
Taquan Tyler, her cousin, and Jakira K.I. Barnes, also known as Lil Snoop, this week's murderess. Jakira Barnes was born January 21st, 1997 and was born and raised in the south side of Chicago. She had a twin brother named Greg, two other brothers, and one sister. She lived with her mother, Chantel Brown, and their grandmother as well. And Jakira and her mom were extremely close.
Before her and her twin turned a year old, their father was shot dead in the head in their front lawn by AK-47. Growing up, though, she seemed to have a normal childhood. She excelled in school, she was a math protege, and she wanted to become a social worker. Her mom said that, like, look, she loves tacos, rice, and Disney Channel, which, who doesn't? She attended a chartered prospective math and science academy.
where she was known to be shy and quiet. So friends said that she was a little rough, but you know, she was sweet. She only got suspended one time, and that was for being disrespectful, and that was back in 2010. But other than that, she had no major problems while she was in school. Now, while she was shy at school and she was quiet, Ja'Kira wasn't no pushover. Outside of school, she was an up-and-coming gang member. She was associated with the St. Louis Boys or the Flyboy Gang, FBG, which is a subset of GD.
And although she started school and she was very shy, by the end of eighth grade, she was smiling more and she had a pretty decent amount of friends, which is usually not the case, they say, for students that would bang. But finally, when she reached being a freshman in high school, she started skipping school a lot. And she was out. She was running the streets. And in 2011, when Jakira was only 13 years old, a fellow gang member named Shondell Gregory, also known as Tuka, was shot and killed while he was at the bus stop on the way home from school. So...
So eight minutes later?
And Tuca was well known in the street and he was well respected. And so because of that, they ended up renaming the block Tukaville. The thing was, Tuca was only 15 years old. He was still very young, but quite legendary. After that, she changed her Facebook name to Tukaville Killer. The loss of Tuca was hard for the whole block. You know, that was that was one of their heavy hitters. In 2011, when K.I. was 14 years old, she was arrested for the first time for discharging a
firearm. She was ordered to go to juvie in an alternative school in Cook County juvenile detention center where her case was pending. The judge said that he was holding her at the juvie center for her own protection while the case was pending because he didn't want her in the streets thinking that maybe this would straighten her up. It did not. She was going to that magnet school and it was probably challenged her in a different way with like getting pulled into juvie. Her friend said on that A&E special that
Her best friend was like, eighth grade was the last year she enjoyed school. And her mom was like, yeah, after she got arrested, I don't know what happened with school after that. Like, she was doing fine. She got arrested. And then it was over. Yeah. That was it. She wasn't going to school no more. And they think that putting kids in juvie helps, and it doesn't. Putting the kids in juvie is telling that kid that they're bad. Right. And so then that kid internalizes that they bad, and they want to live up to their title of being bad. Because if you expect me to be bad, well, I'm going to be the fucking baddest. You know? Mm-hmm.
So the pending case did have a witness that picked her out of a lineup, but the case ended up being dismissed because the witness would not get on the stand to testify against K.I. The charges was dropped. Did she do it? Didn't she? Who knows? But she didn't shoot nobody. Right. She just discharged the weapon. Right. And when they asked her mom, her mom was like, I don't know.
Her mom said, when she in my house, I got control of her. I don't know what she's doing in them streets. That's a whole different person. I don't know. Took her mom and was saying the same thing. She said, I asked some people. I heard the gossip of people saying she did it. I went up to her. I asked if she did it. She told me no. I don't know what you want me to tell you. I wasn't there. I don't know. After the first run-in with the logic here, you know, again, she never returned to school. And this is where her gang life really begins to escalate. Mm-hmm. So...
The area that she lived in was GD territory. And so she became a GE. Yeah. They done let the GDs in the dough. Hey, they done let the GDs in the dough. GDs. So she joined the GDs. But it doesn't sound like you were born there. Huh? You were born there. Right. You either join or you don't go outside. Right. So she grew up in, she was born in GD territory. So it was kind of like. That's what you do. That's what you do. Yeah.
If you spend any time out there, like, if you wanted to go outside. Yeah. So she was known as a hitter in the streets. The hitters are those niggas who are real in the shoot. Right. So she was known in these streets as a killer. And at this time, she's only 13 years old. Yeah, and got a reputation. And she's, like, she stayed strapped. She was never scared. Like, she lived for this shit. Right. She loved it.
So, and even people in the other gangs knew. They was like, okay, she shoot first, ask question later. Like, you don't fuck with her. Okay, so as her activity increased, she officially became a suspect in about three to five shootings, including one murder. Now, that's all she ever became was a suspect. Right. That firing the weapons case was her only...
case that she ever had brought against her. But the shootings, you know, if you talk into the streets, if you tap into the streets, they start to let you know what the story is. You can't go to the police for this story. No, no, no. So...
Um, a lot of the beef that they had was, of course, with the neighboring neighborhood. They literally touched each other, the neighborhoods. It was like a couple of blocks to the left, a couple of blocks to the right. And the neighborhood over to the left was, uh, they called it WIC. That's where the BD stayed. Mm-hmm. And they called it WIC. So over on the other side, where the GD stayed, that was STL because they lived off of St. Lawrence Avenue. Um...
So a lot of the beat they had was with the BDs over in WIC. Okay, on August 11, 2011, on 400 block of East 64th, Odell O.D. Perry of the BD set was seen coming down from the corner store riding his bike when he was gunned down. Of course, the police didn't know for sure who did it, but the streets was talking and they said that K.I. did it.
A lot of this stemmed from a tweet that she posted shortly after his murder. She posted a picture of her and his gun. Holding that nigga's weapon. Up next to her face like, guess the fuck what? That's a bold move. It was a bold move. And the streets definitely took it as such. Mm-hmm.
And so she didn't necessarily say anything else about it, just posted the picture of her with the gun. But after the slaying of O.D., you know, O.D. was, he was respected in the B.D. territory. And he was one of their heavy hitters. So they named that area O-Block in honor of him. So I was listening to a couple of different sources. And they were saying that, like, how you get respect is once you get bodies, right? And so this would have been her, or this is her story.
First body. Her first told body. Her first told body, right. Her first street documented body. But there was some beef going back and forth saying, oh, she wasn't the one that actually pulled the trigger. Oh, she was just holding his gun for clout and shit like that. I heard a rumor that she was out there with Boss Trail and they saw him riding on a bike and
Boss Troll's the one that actually pulled the trigger. And once O.D. was down, K.I. went and got his gun, and they both ran off. Mm-hmm. And... Because O.D. was shot once in the buttocks, and then threw the neck and hit the shoulder. So, I don't know. I asked around, and niggas was like, nah, she definitely got bodies on her or whatever. But I guess the question was, was that her first body? I think...
It was her first hit. So, her and Vostrel went out to kill him. And so, even, you know, you said there was... Well, you didn't say just now, but you told me earlier that there were nine shell casings at the scene, but only two landed. So, she might have been squeezing the trigger. Just because she didn't hit him didn't mean she wasn't ready to rock out and hit him. You know what I mean? It's a bad shot. Yeah, but...
maybe they was running he was on a bike zigzagging we never know you know right the killings don't even begin to slow down or stop also in 2011 STL uh member Carlton Archer was gunned down at this point there's just a number of back and forth killings between Tukaville and O'Block you know everybody trying to avenge the person before them right
And then at one point, Tukaville member Lil B, he was running from the cops. The cops actually killed him. So...
Pain on top of pain. Mm-hmm. And then I think what at this time she's 14? Yep. Like, so these is people who she grew up with. Like, I know it's like saying it's a gang shit, but these are kids. These are people who she grew up with and they're dead. They're gone. Like, niggas who she was kicking it every day with, gone. Hanging out outside at the park with as a child. Killed by niggas who lived down the street. Killed by the cops who was supposed to save you. That they probably all went to school together and learned they ABCs at the same damn time. Mm-hmm.
So on June 24th, 2012, one murder in particular hit K.I. extremely hard. She had this little cousin named Taequann Tyler. Now, Taequann's mom and K.I.'s mom, they were extremely close and they raised their children kind of together. And so finally, Taequann's mom said, look, she had had enough of all the violence in the neighborhood. So she moved herself and her son out of Chicago.
So Taquan was in town visiting. And while in town, he was on the streets. And they had Taquan doing little robberies here and there. And he was a little tiny thing hitting big drug dealers here and there. You know what I'm saying? She taught him how to rob the old heads. Right. She was like, you're just a little nigga. Ain't nobody going to fuck with you. Exactly. They don't think anybody's going to kill you. He was tiny. They don't think anybody's going to kill a little kid. He's 13 at this point, you know? Yep. And he's a small 13. I know some big 13-year-olds. He was a small 13-year-old.
So one evening, he begs his mama. He says, please, mama, please, mama, please, mama. K.I. is going to this party. I want to go to this party. So he begs and begs to go. And finally, she says yes. So he goes to the party. K.I. goes to the party. So his sisters go to the party. They're on the 2600 block of South Road. And so while they were at the party, a car drives by and they start spraying the party with bullets. Taekwon ends up being hit. Next thing you know, he is laid out.
on the street of the 2600 block of South Road. When his mama comes to pick him up, all she can do
This hit K.I. hard because not only was this her little cousin, but this was like her little brother. This was her baby. This was her best friend. She was torn up about it. What her friend said, look...
After that, she changed her social media handle again to Taekwon Assassin, pledging to avenge her cousin's death. The gunmen that shot at the place at the drive-by were later identified as 23-year-old Naysan Flowers and Dwayne Chester.
They were arrested and charged. They still got 55 years. But Dwayne pled guilty. Well, he pled for a lesser crime.
And he got a lesser sentence because he also has some other cases against him. So he actually ended up serving seven years. So K.I. smoked a lot of weed. They also said that she and almost everybody else on the street, they pop Xanax, they pop Perks because it was popping pills to make the pain go away. As they do. As they do. I mean, they had seen so much. I mean, she's 14. And how many bodies has how many dead bodies has she seen?
Right. How many dead bodies has she seen? How many dead bodies has she called? How many dead bodies was close to her? Mm-hmm. Like, even past seeing it, like, knowing them. That's your nigga on the street again. Again. That takes a lot on the mental. The war between Tukaville and O'Block was far from over. So there was this nigga, Lil Jojo, and he was part of Tukaville. And he made this video dissing the BDs. He's basically like...
He was just one of their members. And so December 2012, he tweeted his location. The boys from O'Block saw the tweet. They pulled up, seen Lil' JoJo riding his bike, and laid him out. Of course, his friends and niggas on the streets were saddened by the death of Lil' JoJo, and they made t-shirts in his honor, as they do. And in that same...
that same month on Christmas Day, J.Loud was shot for wearing a Lil JoJo sweatshirt. Lil JoJo was a pretty talented rapper, and they say, you know, if he was alive, he would have been big, probably bigger than Lil Durk. That's what they say, but you can't never say what nobody's going to do who ain't here to do it. Right.
But they said he was extremely talented, though. Yeah. And I think his music proved that because he's a rock. Thing is, there's plenty of niggas who rock and still don't make it. So you just never know. You don't. So 2013, the FBG Cowboys released a song called Murder. My young niggas, they gon' murder.
He specifically names K.I. as one of his, quote, young killers in the video. Y'all, if y'all go look at this video, K.I. is all up and through this thing. She is all in now. She got the bandana over the face. She throwing up her signs. She pulled her bandana down. She rocking. She everything.
Almost every scene, she is up there, ready to put on for her set. But yeah, shout out to Dada Creative because that music video was actually really good.
I think it was good quality. It looked like any other nigga video with him having his sets and they flat like a Bobby Schmurda video. I was on his YouTube page and he just uploaded another video and trust me, he's gotten better with time and it was good then. I definitely didn't expect it to be that high quality. I didn't think I was going to be able to make out the people and the song kind of rock. I ain't gonna lie.
So around this time, like she she she really gets some crowd in the street. She is dead nigga. They start calling her a little snoop from the wire. I doesn't watch TV, so she doesn't know what the wire is. The wire is this amazing show basically about, you know, how shows split the story. So half the story is from the police perspective and the other half of the story is from the street perspective. And it's a drug unit.
Trying to bust the niggas in the streets and seeing them use their informants. And they trying to take time on some master drug dealer. They got hella seasons. It's so fucking good. I love Snoop's character on there. It's in Baltimore, so you can hear all them accents. I love it. She like, oh yeah, me too. She be doing them long O's and shit. Loved it.
Such a good show. Back in September 26, 2012, K.I. was jumped and stomped out by some members of O'Block on a train, right? And one of these people just happened to be King Von. Yes, that's King Von, the rapper. So, you know, he grew up in Chicago. He was part of BD. He stayed in O'Block. Mm-hmm.
And many of y'all see him with his O'Block chain and his OTF chain. Like, that's all the O'Block niggas. They making it together in the rap game. So he was very proud of beating her ass on the train. He went to Twitter and he was like, Opdite is getting whooped on the train. Lacking. Dot, dot, dot. Think about it. And after that...
He was, like, trying to flirt with her on public and Twitter. Yeah. It was very... It was a very weird dynamic that they had going on because they would literally go back and forth from, like, bullshit with each other to threatening each other because they're part of rival gangs. But, like, he'd be, like... He'd be flirting with her. I'm trying to make you my wifey. One of these days, you're gonna see...
And she would just be like, ha ha, nigga, you funny. Like, I seen, you know, she studded the fuck out. So I seen one tweet she did. It was like, he was like,
playing with her some type of way she talking about nigga you gay yeah mess me with that gay shit like come on now right she's like uh-uh uh he would he would even be texting her i mean tweeting props out there kyra ain't no lame you know i think i love her nigga shit that's what niggas say right that's what they it seemed like his whole the whole time they were on twitter it was just like
Oh, I like you. I'm going to go pull your hair. Oh, I don't like you. I'm going to stick my tongue out at you. Oh, I'm going to come over and pull your hair. Yeah. And they would, like, one day they'd be fine. And then the next day it's like, fuck you. You see what happened to OD. And they'd be like, you don't want to talk about OD. You see, you know, we smoking on took and shit. And fuck you. Da, da, da, da. Just like, I don't even know where it come from. And then somebody, I was watching some documentary. And they hacked me.
Kyra's DMs. I was looking at her messages. It was like, you see some DMs between Kyra and T-Bone and it's like, he's just talking. He's like, he's like, you know, what's it going to take for you to take me serious? It's some bullshit. He flirting with her again. And she's like, nigga, when you going to stop banging? My guy got so offended. He's like, fuck you mean? I'm going to stop banging. I love this shit. Don't
don't fucking play with me right now right when you won't stop banging she was like nah fuck that i ain't never gonna stop banging i feel you on this shit she was like but we two real niggas you know what i'm saying and we understand this life and i think if he truly cared about her that's what drew him in was the level that he could understand him i'm telling you some niggas like stud some niggas they be like
She like a bro, but she like a girl. It's the best of both worlds. I know quite a few niggas that like studs. And it's quite a few studs that'll fuck around with some niggas. I know quite a few studs that'll fuck around with some niggas. I mean, it's not completely unheard of, but he really fucks with that shit. He really... He say he do. He also looks... Listening to him talk about her, he got interviewed on that A-anything, and he was just like...
yeah i like cara she was cool man she dressed like me like no death nothing and then he's like i see this tweet from you it says something like i'm telling you one day i'm gonna drill you or some shit talking about he gonna fuck her and he was like did you tweet this he was like that sound like some raw shit and i'd be saying raw shit so yeah i probably said that like is this
Disgusting. Stupid. Disgusting. Do better. I'm harder. You don't really want my attention. So in between all this, they still would go back talking about each other's dead homies and shit. Like really throwing up they said. And then come back. Hey, what you doing? Nothing at school. What you doing? All right. Be safe in the streets. Like very weird dynamic going on between the two of them. And basically what Kyra was getting at was like, I mean, this nigga funny to talk to on Twitter, but I don't trust him.
I think this nigga want me dead. She even told him. She was like, all right, bro, what's up? Like, y'all trying to kill me or what? She said she heard. She said some witch from around the way told me that y'all want me dead. So it was good. He was like, I mean, I ain't going to hold you. Of course we want you dead. He was like, but I mean, I ain't trying to kill you. She like, so y'all must really be threatened by me. He was like, not really. At this point, I want anybody from...
from Tukaville did you know what I'm saying I can have any one of you not special basically what he's saying it was I'll take anybody anybody over their head and it was just I think at this point it starts to become I think they very much lost the message of what the games were supposed to do in the first place you know what I'm saying like King Von literally tweeting I murder for fun
Nobody out here got as many bodies as me. Like bragging on that shit. You know what I'm saying? He's very proud of the lives he's took, you know? And it's just like the conversation at this point between the two of them bragging about how many lives they took. And it's literally you taking lives because somebody else took a life. You just see the circle how it cannot stop. Like, how do you intervene at that point? Right. But I mean, he also says that he was like when he said that he didn't really want her. He was like, look.
When we stumped you out on the train, we had homegirl there. She had a gun on her. I could have told her to shoot you then. He was like, I actually saw you one time when I was riding my bike and you were standing out there. He was like, I could have shot you then. I had my nine on me then. So I've had opportunity to kill you.
He was like, yeah, I just did. He was just trying to... You're not that special. He was trying to break down this wall that she had, the heavy air quotes on the wall that she had. And she was like, I think she... Had a bullshit meter. She had a bullshit meter. So...
The same pattern of tweeting went on between King Von and K.I. for like two years. Like, they really kept in touch. They would talk on the phone. He'd be like, Kira sounds so sexy on the phone. Oh, my God. Like, it really kept this going. She every time was just like, whatever, nigga. Okay. She was probably like, this nigga is a lame bitch.
I think she actually enjoyed him. And that's the thing, is that these kids didn't get a chance to be kids. They didn't get a chance to, like, flirt with. Or even just make friends just because y'all clicked. They made friends based off where they lived. You know what I mean? And you could not go outside those boundaries. And so I think maybe her and King Von actually could have clicked. But what was more important than them clicking was the games that they belong to. Mm-hmm.
People are like looking into the tweets. This A&E, I can't take this A&E special.
It was like this guy, he's been breaking down the codes on their tweet to figure out what the emojis mean because these teens, their codes are always developing. And they're like, yeah, see this? Y'all know the purple devil emoji, the nigga running emoji, and the water gun emoji. They were like, these string of tweets or these string of emojis means...
he's going to kill him. You're like, wow, those colorful emojis mean he's going to kill him? Yes, these colorful emojis is violence. And it was like, well, nigga, duh, it's a gun. Apple thought they was doing something. How much did they get paid to come up with that idea? Because I could have told him that. They say that cyberbanging has become a big issue. And I guess it has, but Apple thought they was doing something, changing his gun into a water gun. They don't stop shit. They still...
A gun emoji is way different from a gun in real life. Right, and they will drop that water gun emoji, but you know what the hell that mean. You will get sprayed. Then they had people on there that was like, you can see a lot of prayer hands emojis, and that we believe symbolizes loss. And it's like, top tier work here, guys. So they're like, it's loss turned into rage. And it's like, no shit. Yeah. And it was like, we could...
People have been studying the tweets between K.I. and King Von or even just K.I.'s tweets in general because she was... She ran a Twitter for everything. She put all her emotions on Twitter, you know? Yeah. And every time she lost somebody... She needed a Tumblr. She did need a Tumblr. Every time she lost somebody, she was just kind of tweeting about it. Every time she felt the pain or whatever, she was...
You know, damn, I really miss my dude. Wish I could smoke one with Taquan right now. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. It still fuck the cops over Lil B, why they have to take my bro, you know, Tukaville, like... All of that. All this loss and this pain that she's experiencing still is a child. Yep. So...
She was really expressing that. And then they were like, on the same A&E special, they was like, I'm just so shocked.
That this hurting killer could go to Twitter and just be so vulnerable and expressive. And I'd be like, do you know how many niggas cry on the internet every day? Let me not say cry. You know how many niggas go on the internet and RIP and this was a hard day? To tell their emotions. To tell their emotions. And also, this is Twitter 2012. You know what I mean? We were telling it all. And it's black Twitter. Girl, Twitter in 2012. Tazzy.
That's how the fight started. That's how the fight started. I was like, I was about to say, bro. That's how the fight started. Yeah.
Twitter 2012 was a crazy place to be. It was. It doesn't surprise me one bit. Yeah. So a lot of the shit that they was talking on the internet kind of, you know, spilled over into real life. So on April 9th, 2014, Chicago rapper Blood Money, who was a member of the 300 BD set and who was also Chief Keef's cousin because, you know, Chief Keef is BD of O Block. Blood Money was shot 10 times and the street said...
K.I. was the trigger woman. On a recent live, FBG Butter was like, yes, she did do it. So it's been confirmed by the streets that she did it. Yeah. So once again, another body on K.I.'s roster. In February 2014, cops found K.I. in a rival gang BD territory. And the cops said that he knew the risk of her being over there. So he was like, hey, you want me to drive you to the safe space like over on your side? And she politely declined and walked away, which...
I guess it goes to show, like, she wasn't just this ruthless-ass person. But also, I'm not going to get in the car with you. With a cop? You want me to get dropped off in the back of a squad car? Right. You want me to get dropped off in my neighborhood from the back of a squad car? Are you trying to put a target on my head? I was like, I'm super good. Sorry. Thanks. That wouldn't have been safe for her in these gangs. You know, this is where she's living her life now. She's got to run the right way. But, you know, just two months later, she would change the history of Tukaville forever.
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devil emoji so this was her sharing her location she was getting ready to walk with some friends to a barbecue and she was bragging like oh i'll be the only motherfucking hood at this time yada yada yada remember she wasn't at school and there was a time where she was tweeting king von and she was like oh what you doing he was like oh i'm in class trying to figure out what i'm gonna write about what you doing she's like running the street right she was like making balls making moves nigga you in school he was talking about all right be safe out there she's all right dad
Like they was real chill with each other. Yeah.
So at 3.30 p.m., one male figure wearing a gray hoodie and blue jeans comes from in between the house and starts firing. Her, her nigga FBG Butter, and someone else was shot, but the other two survived. KI, however, was hit nine times, hitting her in the chest, jaw, leg, and neck. The gunman then jumps in the car and makes a successful escape. KI, she tries to crawl up the stairs of the porch of her neighbor's porch and...
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When trying to figure out, the police put in a report that, quote, it seems even her own gang wanted her gone because she was such a lightning rod, end quote. She was buried near her father, and when her mother was, like, looking at the beer up flat, her mom said, quote, at least I don't have to worry about her in the streets no more. That's a sad place to be. Now she is buried near her father. That's a sad place to be, man. It is. To be, like, down.
At least what you did, I ain't got to stress. I ain't got to wonder. I know exactly where you are. That's a hard place to be.
So for many years it went on that, you know, some mysterious hooded person shot her up, right? Nobody knew who it was. Nobody knew who it was. But as many of you know, King Von was murdered in 2020. Now you would have thought he'd been gunned down over some gang shit, but he was really gunned down over some rat beef. Like, I guess if it went one way, it was another. You know? And in 2021, in June of 2021, this
This year, y'all. They officially said that King Von was the main suspect, pretty much saying that King Von was the one that killed K.I. Now, the streets had already been said this. Mm-hmm. This was no surprise to everybody else that knew about this story, that knew what King Von had going on. And King Von had blown up way after this murder had happened. Well, four years after, because he had a couple murder charges that he ended up having to beat. Yeah, like three, four years after...
After her death, he got charged with a murder. He beat the case. And then up goes his rap career. Yeah, he had a couple of different charges and he, you know, up goes his rap career like five months after that. Yeah, I think Chicago really was, they were developing this new
of music, I guess, called drill music. And they really just rapping about life in these streets, who they killed and what drugs they sold and all that shit. But they rock, you know what I mean? It's got a nice beat behind it. Yeah, it's very, it's very much an up north shit. Yeah. So a lot of them niggas was blowing up. Like Chief Keef, Lil Durk, King Von, they all from the same hood. They all grew up together. Yep.
Yeah, so, you know, shortly after that, he jumped on his rap career. Was doing great. Got into his little rap beef. Got killed outside of the club. And then they pinned him. And K. Michelle went up for him. Yes, she did. Did you see that? That's her favorite rapper. People were like, girl, sit down. She can go up for King Von if she want to. I think even in his life of, like, rapping, like, how drill music was...
their expression of it like i think there's so much you can literally look at these documentaries and you can look at these police cases and you can listen to the music and everything is just like k i was in these streets bro yeah this took a shit that was that was a real fucking big deal king von got this song still trapping and you say this this shit the hell you choking that got took a kill so like and people are screaming that shit out
screaming the shit out in the club that's they gem you know what I'm saying meanwhile his mama on the internet talking about please quit disrespecting my son it's mad disrespectful so what they saying is they naming the weed at the niggas they killed and saying they smoked them you know they smoked them with the gun and now they smoking them in a blunt you know so she like
You got literally niggas going up across the country talking about they smoked my son. This is the shit they got my son killed. And that's the thing. Like, it's a bop. It's a good ass song. You know what I'm saying? But like hearing the history behind it, it's a whole culture of music at this point. I mean, it's just like music from the South, you know. But if you don't know that culture, if you don't know the beef, then you just rapping a song. Mm hmm.
But that shit is mad disrespectful. Now y'all know. Now y'all niggas know. Do with that what you will. He got a couple songs talking about it, though. If y'all go on YouTube and Google King Von lyrics that actually happened, he got an Exposing Me Fear memo. He says, I swear I killed her, broke her back.
On War With Us, he says, a pretty hot bitch put her in a morgue. So, I mean, he really out here rapping about taking her fucking life and that's his homie on the thing. Right. So... It's so funny that he's the one that he's on there. It's always...
You know how they talk about, like, the person that killed you, they'll go out and start being a part of the search party, just do anything to keep themselves involved with your name, just to kind of keep the heat off of them. But, like, he was doing that same shit. And I just find it very suspicious that he had charges, those charges were dropped, and he never got the charges for K.I.,
But all of a sudden, after he's dead, like, blaming a dead man, like, why didn't you do nothing about it then? I probably couldn't. Listen, they sitting there talking about they think K.I. got three to five, King Von got bodies, and nobody is doing any time? Nah, they said K.I. got more than that, over a dozen. Cops say she got three to five. Streets say she got over a dozen. Right. So...
Speaking from a cop's perspective, you know she got three to five bodies. Y'all ain't charge her ass. King Von got bodies. He on Twitter talking about he got bodies. But if don't nobody, this shit in the streets. And the thing is, the streets ain't going to talk for you. They're not going to talk. No matter what side you on. So you can't really prosecute these types of cases. You know what I mean? It just keeps happening. They want to settle that shit for themselves out in the street. And that's why that cycle just keep continuing.
They were saying on this A&E, they was like, there's like a, these young people go on a Twitter and talking about this. They said, there's a sweet spot where you can intervene. They said, they began to talk about the loss. And about two days later, there comes aggressive tweets. And if you get there in two days, then you might can just save a life. And so they're trying to crack down and figure out how to,
intervene with these gay members. Sometimes it just ain't no intervening, you know? These niggas is headstrong and these young niggas built different, you know? Like, I got this friend and he was telling me, you know, he a GD and I was like, so why you join it? He was like, he was like, he was like, because my brother was a GD. He said, my brother been out here selling dough since he was 12 and shit. So I've been
exposed to that shit since i was eight trying to be like my brother so he's like i grew up in gd you know this is i gotta be like this it is a lifestyle born into that shit you know what i mean and um he was just like things ain't really what it's supposed to be or what it was built on because like the history the history of gangs was a protection thing you know what i mean like the police those were the original gangs kkk that's the original gang right
And Gaines was born basically for black people to protect their area. So when they're saying they covering like the little blocks, okay, this section is ours. And we are going to make sure don't nobody fuck with this shit. And then money and drugs get involved. And now it's like, okay, this is still our shit. And we're going to make this money over here. And this is our economy. You know what I mean?
Right, this is our economy. You know what I'm saying? This is how we getting shit done in the city. So this is where we need to build the money from. I think it kind of lost its purpose and it became so much about the territory and so much about who rep they said the hardest and you're not going to disrespect the said to people. They can get on Twitter and tweet something and end up dead because he has some feelings on Twitter. Just words. Have you killed? You know what I'm saying? That's what they were saying in one of the documentaries that we were watching. It was like,
Anything. Any type of words. Any type of feeling. Any type of emotion. Anything on the social media can get you killed. It don't matter what it is. You don't know what's going to set somebody off and they will kill you. Right. Because they take this shit fucking seriously. Maybe a little too seriously. But then it's like, you want to be like, oh, well, they shouldn't have been caught up in gangs in the first place. But it's not really a stance that you can take. Especially for these people
growing up in these neighborhoods because the way when I tell you these neighborhoods are so close you need to get to the corner store you gotta walk past the rival territory to get there so it's like a I hope I make it safe to the store type of deal you just walk into the store you know so it's like okay I'ma rock with these niggas so that when I have to go past these niggas at least I got some protection and some people
At least somebody don't want me dead. And they're going to look out for me. You know what I'm saying? Just to go to the store. Yep. To get some milk for your mama. You know? So, of course, it's going out like that. But I think this story just has so much. He shot him. If y'all go into it, we tried to limit. But you can go on a deep dive. Because let me tell you about...
the gangs in chicago their history is well documented documented well documented much to my surprise there's about 15 million documented everybody want to tell chaos story everybody uh they want to tell you a story it's worth the deep dive i think so i think it's definitely it's it's a bigger picture and like it's a lot more killings than we're even taking to account in this story it's killings that her bro did to their side that led to the killings of her bros you know what i mean
Like, everybody killing on behalf of everybody, you know? It's sad. It is sad. She was only 17 years old when she died. A lot of these people died young. O.D. died at 20. Taquan died at 13. Tuka was 15. Lil B was 15. K.I. was 17. I think Yvonne was the oldest. Was she 24? Mm-hmm.
He was the oldest one to make it. Like, most of these people didn't make it out of being a child. Most of these kids never fucking grew up. And it's just... They were like, you have to have the mindset of a man at 11, 10. Right. Niggas be like, oh... You need to be ready to die about this shit and be prepared to do that by 10 years old. Right. And she... I think especially after losing Taquan, she was like, fuck life. I'd die behind anything now. I'm a soldier now. Yeah. Like, it's whatever. It's whatever in the name... It's whatever in the name of you. Like, that was her nigga. So...
After that, it was...
Fuck anybody. Anybody can have it. It just wasn't no making it right for her. I think at that point, for her personally, her life lost its value. When you ready to die behind shit like that, that's when you not valuing your life. Right. She on Twitter quoting Biggie, you nobody till somebody kills you. That was her legacy. I think she knew she was going to die. She was going to be somebody. And if it took somebody killing her for her name to rain in these streets, and it do. I think...
I think the person that she left, she would be proud of how she's still holding up in these streets. Years later, niggas still talking about K-I. I think she'd be very proud of how she ended up. You know, she'd probably want to like that, you know, K-Von took her out. But I bet she'd be like, I told you so. She's probably like, I knew I was fucking legendary. You can't make them like me, you know? Alrighty, it's time for... Well, I'm not black. I'm OG.
I ain't do it, but if I did, this is how I would've got away with it. I mean, shit, she didn't get charged or nothing. Listen, she did get away with it. I ain't do it, but if I did, I would, I don't give a fuck. I'm not gonna tweet my location. Never. I'm like the wind. Catch me. Listen, I probably wouldn't have been on Twitter at all. TBH. At
at all they blamed a lot of it on cyber cyber cyber banging it was like cyber cyber banging has really increased the amount of deaths that go out in chicago especially i guess around these kids because social media is so important to these young literally saying pull up and niggas is pulling up you know what i'm saying they're not they ain't never scared and it's
And it's kind of like she's almost been in like every loose situation, right? Like she lost the nigga to gang shit. She lost the nigga. And the nigga was minding his fucking business. You know what I'm saying? Not in no gang shit. She done lost the nigga to the cops. Nobody out there for her. You know what I mean? And it's so crazy because we were talking about her not going back to school. And it's the system that fucked her up.
Right. I think she should have. Who would have thought? What if she got arrested, she had the charge, and she went the fuck back to school instead of you holding her in juvie? Right. What would happen then? Her teachers would have been maybe more involved checking in. You know, if they sat there, see, that's why you need to take this money from the goddamn cops and put it to someplace more useful. Because if the teachers were in this school reaching out...
like and have the time and resources and money even if they say like because y'all these teachers fucking know which kids is in juvie and which is not and who got a case and a charge and all that shit right they inform the school and if they sat there and been like okay what's going on even just talking it through one of these niggas doing a documentary he was like he was like you know we talk about all this gang violence or whatever but the question is what can we do to prevent it he was like talk to these kids he's like these kids think don't nobody give a fuck about them right
That's true. They really don't. Like, these kids literally have nothing to live for. They are willing to die behind the streets. You know what I'm saying? He was like, you can sit there and try and act like...
really white guy. He's looking and trying to act like, oh, these kids are dangerous and they're killers and gangbangers and I don't need to be talking to him. He said, I am a old white guy. I'm a 40-year-old white guy and these kids talk to me. I didn't like him too much because I felt like he was a little misogynistic. Like, oh, K.I. was
was at the end of the day she was a girl and she wanted to be accepted by these boys because all girls want to be accepted by these boys and that's why she was trying to some girls do it sexually and she was doing it by banging with them and i'm like y'all are acting like she's so legendary because she's a girl i mean but that's the thing is that she is so legendary because she's a girl
I think she's so legendary because that nigga was a shooter. I mean, it's hella shooters, though. She's not the only shooter. She's not the only one with bodies. This nigga with bodies. But it's not bitches with bodies. I think it was because she was bad about it. That's not the role that females usually play in this role. Females, they might... They're the distraction piece. But I always feel like women have the ability to be more violent. Like an all-girl gang that's bad about it, I would be terrified of them. Sure, sure.
But in a regular ass game, for that to be your hardest person is this 13 year old girl. I think not even just that she was a girl, but that she was a girl and she was young as fuck. So I think so. Because I mean, in that music video, she's the only girl and she is the smallest one in that music video. Because everybody else was in fucking school.
I think part of what makes her legendary is that she was a girl. I think that's like the whole point behind this podcast is people don't think that women got it in them. Like, everybody think women killing because they heartbroken. And it's not. I mean, it can be. It can be. It happens. Niggas kill because they feelings hurt too, though. So...
Niggas get their feelings hurt so easily. And that ego, they may want to grab their nuts and shoot you. But I think that's the part that separates her from the other. Like, out of all the cases that we did, this is definitely a different one. Like, and even talking to her, he's like, yeah. He was like, she got the clout, she got the baddies, and she was like, the girls, they usually don't do that. But she was out there like the niggas. You know what I mean? She was about, she meant that shit. Parole or no parole, we don't have any. Can't go to jail. Yeah, nobody got a
case nobody got a case nobody went to jail okay so if they caught ki what do you think they should have did i think that if they caught ki we would still have nothing for parole no parole because i think she would have beat the case just like all the rest of them niggas because who's gonna snitch but i like the idea of a community coming together and protecting what's theirs and not letting nobody fuck with them and looking out for one another
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