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Bonus Episode - Suffering Souls, Subversion, and More Great Girl Groups

2025/6/5
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Jake Brennan: 我认为精神病态、艺术和创伤之间存在着深刻的联系。许多伟大的艺术家都遭受过无法否认的伤害,他们的创伤是他们的艺术和可耻行为的根源吗?精神病态过去被称为邪恶,但现在我们知道,精神病态往往源于童年经历的痛苦。我并非为这些“受苦的灵魂”找借口,只是试图理解他们。例如,詹姆斯·布朗的童年创伤既成就了他,也导致了他的精神病态行为。没有那种创伤,就不会有成为演艺界最努力的人的动力,也不会有那种艺术才能,也不会有那种精神病态的行为。对于那些对Disgraceland不熟悉的人,我想再次强调,我们并非为音乐家的行为找借口,只是试图理解它。引入“精神病态”一词是为了引入痛苦的概念,从而进一步理解。邪恶是黑白的,而精神病态则更为复杂。创伤有时会驱使艺术家悔恨和同情。至于Marilyn Manson,他的行为是否属于精神病态?他是否缺乏人性,是否使他成为真正的邪恶?我不知道答案,但我总是支持复出和怜悯。我认为Marilyn Manson试图将自己描绘成一种不同类型的艺术家,但我希望他有某种救赎。

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This week in the After Party, Jake is thinking about the connection between psychopathy, artistry, and trauma. So many great artists are also undeniably damaged people. Is their trauma at the root of both their artistry and their disgraceful behavior? Plus, we hear more from you on great girl groups!

Next week, we're bringing you the terrifying story of Bjork and an obsessed fan , and Jake wants to know: What is the most wild and deranged story of obsessive fandom in music history? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), or on socials @disgracelandpod.

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