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Mark Carney: 我认为加拿大与美国基于不断加深的融合的旧关系已经结束。我们已经度过了美国背叛的震惊,但我们永远不应该忘记教训。 我将努力使加拿大成为能源超级大国,并增加住房建设,以应对国内和全球挑战。 Pedro Sanchez: 西班牙和葡萄牙大范围停电的原因目前尚不清楚。电力供应已经在半岛北部和南部的一些地区恢复,这要感谢与法国和摩洛哥的互联互通。 Ewan Potts: 花旗银行第一季度税前利润远超预期,将回购30亿美元股票。这是一个巨大的成功。欧洲最大的银行第一季度税前利润为94.8亿美元,远高于78亿美元的预期。这家总部位于伦敦的银行将在所谓的强劲业绩和盈利势头之后回购另外30亿美元的股票。至于前景,拭目以待。汇丰银行是非美国家最大的美元清算机构,因此极易受到华盛顿和北京之间日益加剧的裂痕的影响。 James von Moltke: 德意志银行受益于全球市场波动,但对短期未来持谨慎态度。我们的公司有能力应对这样的环境,无论是风险管理、我们拥有的强大客户群,还是非常强大的资产负债表。我们有能力应对自身挑战,更重要的是,帮助客户度过动荡的环境。 Donald Trump: 我认为我的贸易政策最终将导致大幅减税。关税带来了很多钱。在我来之前,我们损失惨重。我们每天损失数十亿美元,现在我们做得很好,我们甚至还没有开始。最终,我们将大幅降低我国人民的税收,因为关税收入非常可观,我将能够在很大程度上,甚至几乎完全地降低税收。 Valdis Dombrovskis: 中国也应该保持克制,避免影响欧盟等其他市场的商品供应能力。重要的是,中国也要保持克制,不要影响我们对其他市场,包括欧盟的商品供应能力,否则我们将不得不做出反应,我们将不得不关闭我们的市场以保护我们的经济和公司,这将导致全球经济进一步碎片化。 Lori Calvasina: 公司面临不确定性,一些公司已经停止提供年度业绩指引,转而提供季度业绩指引。我认为我们从公司那里得到的坦诚对话是这样的:听着,我们不会改变我们的指导方针,因为我们认为我们也能应付。我们不会再做年度指导了。我们将改为季度指导。我们现在什么也给不了你。当我们有了答案时,我们会告诉你,在我们感到满意之前,我们不会告诉你。 Rosalind Matheson: 加拿大选举结果可能标志着全球对美国态度的转折点,也可能并非如此。卡尼的胜利幅度很小,他可能不得不与其他政党合作组建少数派政府。尽管加拿大民众普遍对美加关系破裂感到不满,但卡尼的胜利表明,人们担心如果过于对抗特朗普,可能会给自己带来经济损失。卡尼谈到这是一个历史性的关键时刻,他希望将加拿大打造成能源超级大国,并增加住房建设。他也在努力争取国内民众的支持。达拉斯联储的调查显示,美国企业领导人对特朗普的关税政策表示担忧,认为其导致了混乱和疯狂。许多首席执行官虽然支持特朗普的总体目标,但他们担心他政策制定方式的混乱和反复无常。民调显示,特朗普的受欢迎程度正在下降,这可能是他调整汽车关税政策的原因。中国在金砖国家会议上表示,对美国的绥靖政策只会让美国更加大胆。美国试图将各国从中国身边拉拢过去。 Charlie Wells: 汇丰银行第一季度业绩好于预期,这在一定程度上缓解了投资者对该银行亚洲敞口和贸易便利化敞口的担忧。德意志银行的固定收益交易收入好于预期,但一些业务部门在4月份出现大幅放缓。英国石油公司第一季度业绩未达预期,宣布进行规模较小的股票回购;保时捷下调了全年运营回报预期。

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Bloomberg Audio Studios. Podcasts. Radio. News. This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Q at Podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Tuesday the 29th of April here in London. I'm Caroline Hepker. And I'm Jack Sidders. Coming up today, Mark Carney's Liberals secure a narrow victory in a Canadian election dominated by frosty US relations.

The cause of a massive blackout across Spain and Portugal remains a mystery as power returns. Plus, Trump's second first 100 days. The US president looks to tout his successes as polling shows ebbing support for his economic policies. Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. Mark Carney's Liberal Party is projected to win a fourth consecutive election, marking a major turnaround for the party.

Despite the victory, it's likely the party will fall short of the 172 seats needed for an outright majority in the House of Commons. The narrow margin means the former central banker will need to work with other parties to pass legislation as he navigates trade hostilities with the Trump administration. And in his victory speech, Carney echoed his campaign comments. Our old relationship with the United States, a relationship based on steadily increasing integration, is over. The system...

of open global trade anchored by the United States. A system that Canada has relied on since the Second World War. A system that, while not perfect, has helped deliver prosperity for a country for decades is over. We are over the shock of the American betrayal, but we should never forget the lessons.

The former head of Canada's and Britain's central banks, Mark Carney became Liberal leader on March 9th and called an election just two weeks later. Campaigning as a tough opponent to a US president who has repeatedly suggested Canada should become a US state. After steering two G7 central banks through the 2008 financial crash and Brexit, Carney must now prove to voters that his reputation as a crisis manager can extend into the political arena.

Power has been almost fully restored in Spain and Portugal after the two countries were hit by a sweeping power cut on Monday. Millions of people were caught up in the chaos after the mass blackout brought many areas of life to a standstill with trains stopping, planes grounded, internet and mobile phone services cut,

traffic lights and ATMs down. The cause of the blackout remains unknown though with the Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez saying that experts have not yet been able to determine the cause.

We still have no conclusive information about the reasons for this outage. The power supply has already been restored in several territories in the north and south of the peninsula, thanks to the interconnections with France and Morocco.

The words of Pedro Sanchez there, spoken via a translator. A blackout of this scale is rare in Europe and highlights the fragility of the grid as the region shifts to renewable energy. Spain may also face scrutiny, though, over plans to decommission nuclear plants, which supply 20% of its power, and the closure of its last coal plant.

powered plant this year in favour of renewables backed by gas. HSBC is to buy back another $3 billion of shares as profits come in well ahead of estimates. Bloomberg's Ewan Potts has more. It's a big beat for HSBC. Europe's largest bank has reported a pre-tax profit of $9.48 billion for the first quarter, well ahead of estimates for $7.8 billion.

The London-based lender is to buy back another $3 billion of shares after what it called the strong results and momentum in earnings. As to the outlook, watch this space. HSBC is the largest non-US clearer of dollars, so is highly exposed to the growing rift between Washington and Beijing. In London, I'm Ewan Potts, Bloomberg Radio.

Now, let's think about other earnings. A key story from Deutsche Bank. The German lender reported profits and revenues that beat estimates for the first three months of this year. Pre-tax profits came in at 2.8 billion euros in the first quarter. That's more than 200 million higher than estimates. Fixed income sales and trading revenue at Deutsche Bank also beat at 2.9 billion euros. Deutsche Bank CFO James von Moltke says the bank is benefiting from global volatility.

The crystal ball is cloudy. As we think about it though, first of all, our company is well equipped to navigate an environment like this, whether it's risk management or the great client franchise we have, as well as the very strong balance sheet. We are equipped to navigate ourselves and more importantly, help clients through what is an unsettled environment.

Deutsche Bank CFO there speaking to Bloomberg. He added that the bank has to look at the near-term future with some caution. It's the latest set of bank earnings showing how traders have made big profits on the market volatility set off by the Trump administration. U.S. President Donald Trump is on track to ease some tariffs on car manufacturers. Some levies on importing foreign parts will be lifted and there will be a reprieve to prevent steel and car tariffs overlapping.

Two days ago, Trump had doubled down on his trade policy, saying it would lead to lower taxes. A lot of money from tariffs. We were losing a lot before I got here. We were losing billions of dollars a day, and now we're doing great, and we haven't even kicked in yet. And eventually we'll be reducing taxes very substantially for the people of our country because the money is so great coming in from tariffs that I'll be able to reduce taxes to a very large extent and maybe almost completely.

The US president could sign off on the shift as soon as today, ahead of a speech he's giving in car-making state Michigan. The latest evolution of Trump's trade policy comes as the Dallas Fed Manufacturing Index posted its worst reading since 2020, with executives using words like chaos and insanity to describe the fallout of tariffs.

Meanwhile, China's top diplomat says that appeasing a bully will only make America bolder. Foreign Minister Wang Yi urged countries around the world to stand up to the United States as his office released a propaganda video saying China won't kneel down. The EU's Economy Commissioner, Valdis Dombrovskis,

says that they are still engaging with America, but that he had a message for China too. It's important also that China shows restraint, that it does not put all this now, our capacity of goods to other markets, including EU, because then we will have to react, we will have to close our market to protect our economy, our companies, and that will lead even to further global economic fragmentation.

The EU's Valdis Dombrovskis speaking to Bloomberg there. Washington has insisted that the ball is in China's court to de-escalate the trade war, but Beijing has demanded a cancellation of all US tariffs before any negotiations begin.

CEOs from firms including NVIDIA, Eli Lilly and SoftBank will visit the White House tomorrow to highlight their U.S. investments as the president celebrates 100 days in office. The event will come after Trump attends a Michigan rally today to mark the milestone where he is expected to tout his administration's estimated $2 trillion in corporate commitments. But amidst the White House festivities are warnings from Wall Street leaders about price increases and fallout from a U.S.-led trade war.

Lori Calvasina, head of U.S. equity strategy at RBC Capital Markets, says firms are facing uncertainty. I think it was an intellectually honest conversation we got from companies saying, you know, look, we're not changing our guidance because we think we can manage this too. We're not going to do annual guidance anymore. We're going to do quarterly guidance instead. We can't give you anything right now. We'll give you an answer when we have one, and we're not going to give you one until we're comfortable.

RBC's Laurie Kalvisina speaking there. Donald Trump is also facing sinking popularity with a flurry of polls showing voter disapproval of the president's economic stewardship. Gauges from CNN and NBC show just 39% of Americans agree with the White House tariff rollout.

Those are our top stories for you this morning. Now, let's get to the markets. Asian equities higher. The possibility that President Trump may ease his auto tariffs has helped to lift some of the automakers in Asia. Kia, Hyundai and Toyota all rising in trading this morning. MSCI Asia Pacific Index up by three tenths of one percent. As for stock futures, they are

Thanks, David.

Looking at the loonie this morning, weakening three-tenths against the U.S. dollar on the Canadian election result. And I'll mention a couple of earnings out today. BP adjusted net income for the first quarter, misses average analyst estimates. They're planning a share buyback, $750 million. And AstraZeneca earnings per share come in as a big beat, $2.49 for core earnings per share from AstraZeneca.

Thanks, Caroline. Yeah, lots of earnings headlines today. And in just a moment, we'll talk about Trump's first 100 days with EMEA News Director Rosalyn Matheson. But before we do, another story that caught our eye this morning, the blackout in Spain and Portugal, which remains a mystery.

It was chaos for 60 million people on the Iberian Peninsula. No internet, no lights, trains came to a standstill, thousands of flights cancelled, ATMs stopped working, stock market operated as normal, but backup generators. Yes, and that's the issue that we still really don't understand. What...

what oscillation means. That was what the red electric, the electricity grid, blamed for this massive blackout across Portugal, Spain, even affected some parts of France. We had our writers, Ben Sills, our colleagues in Madrid out and about. He wrote a piece about how the students were all, you know, lying on the grass, not working because all of their...

books effectively are online. They don't actually have physical books anymore. Our opinion columnist, Javier Blas, also posting about this throughout the day. His father apparently was complaining that his reclinable chair is electric and that it wouldn't work. So it disturbed his siesta. So look, lots of people, you know, would...

trying to enjoy the afternoon as best as they could. But there were a lot of worries about kind of what this means. It's very rare for there to be such a huge blackout. So there'll be loads of questions about it. Now, let's get the latest on the Canadian election results and a fourth consecutive term for Liberal Party, but only a narrow margin of victory.

It's one incoming Prime Minister, Mark Carney, secured by doubling down on one issue, standing up to Donald Trump. Our EMEA News Director, Rosalind Matheson, joins us now for more. Morning, Rosalind. So, Mark Carney referred to America's betrayal. China have called the US a bully. Does this election mark a turning point for global views towards the US?

Well, yes and possibly no. I mean, as you say, it was actually quite a narrow victory for Mark Carney and there's some possibility he'll have to end up running a minority government operating with the party that tends to field candidates only in

because it was interesting to see the Conservatives make some inroads in the Liberal heartlands in Toronto and Ontario. So those are long, long, long voters for the Liberals. And that's despite that strong sense of grievance that you see coming from Canadian people in general at the way that the relationship with the US has broken down because of

of course, for many Canadians, it's quite personal to see the way that, you know, the US administration is talking about them and talking about making them yet another state of the US. And in spite of all of that, and obviously Carney, you know, he did turn things around from the popularity of the Liberals only some months ago, but it wasn't quite the victory that perhaps he was looking for in a convincing sense.

And perhaps that means that people are worried that, you know, yes, they're concerned about Donald Trump. But if you stand up to him too much, do you bring too much economic pain back on yourself? Yeah, Carney talks about it being a hinge moment in history that he wants to make Canada an energy superpower and also to double home building. So he was very much also trying to talk to the domestic audience as well as the kind of the global backdrop. I mean,

Thinking about President Trump's policies as we're 100 days in now to his second administration, it was very interesting to read the Dallas Fed survey yesterday and the views of American business leaders, manufacturers, chaos and insanity, the result of Trump tariffs. Very strong language.

Well, it's interesting because, you know, quite a few CEOs have welcomed the Trump administration, said they were looking forward to it. What they're looking for is a government that's obviously low regulation for a start, that's very much pro-business. And, you know, Donald Trump is...

on a surface level saying things they want to hear. He wants to bring business back to the US. He wants to make the US, you know, greater again, even than it was perhaps in his first term. But it's the way he's going about it that's causing this disruption that they're probably referring to, which is this very, very dizzying pace of,

of policymaking, the abrupt changes of position that are coming. So he can change his mind a couple of hours after announcing something. And if you're a big company trying to, you know, develop your structure going forward, that's a really difficult environment to be operating in. And, you know, the concerns are that what you see is sentiment effects on US consumers, US consumers stop spending, you know, companies stop hiring. And so that's really what CEOs are

are worried about. Many of them, as I said, do actually support the overarching message that comes from Donald Trump. They're concerned, though, obviously, about the way that he's doing it. So, yeah, business leaders struggling to cope with the uncertainty. But what about U.S. voters? After 100 days of Trump, what's their verdict on the president's aims to remake the U.S. at home and abroad?

Well, you can see that concerns are showing up there also. I mean, the polling shows that Donald Trump's popularity is taking a hit and that's certainly something he's probably going to be very attuned to. You can see that in the possible reversal coming on auto tariffs.

to give relief to auto companies. He's going to Michigan today to make a big speech to mark his 100 days at a time that auto companies say we're really worried about our outlooks here and whether we can continue to employ all our workers. So you see a lot of uncertainty coming in for the ordinary American in terms of, you know, their job security. You see the cuts to government entities and so on. And he's very, very attuned to that.

And, you know, that's why he's pushing his tax cuts to try and get those through Congress quicker than he initially had said. So he wants to deliver something to them pretty quickly on the tax side. And that's obviously a high concern for him.

And then, of course, there's China and how they are dealing with Trump and tariffs. In a meeting of BRICS countries, China was basically telling them to stand firm that appeasement would only embolden the bully. And they have repeatedly said they aren't engaged in any trade talks, even though that is what the Trump administration wants.

Yeah, it's that tomato-tomato thing of are they actually talking in some fashion? Is it a formal versus informal thing? I mean, obviously, you can see that, you know, having Trump come quite aggressively for China is actually helpful for Xi Jinping at home. He's really pushing that narrative. You can see the administration there really leaning into that for their own support at

at home but it also reflects these efforts by the US to try and peel countries away from China because right now if you're Europe you're saying well I can't put all my eggs in the US basket so we're going to have to talk to China on trade we're going to have to talk to countries in the Middle East on trade we have to diversify and Donald Trump is looking at that saying oh I don't want that to happen so he's trying to now say to countries I don't want you getting too close to China.

He really, really does not like the BRICS. And of course, that's a group that's been expanding heavily over the past few years. He doesn't want those countries drawing closer to China. And that's really where that tension is coming. Fascinating. Yes, such an uncertain geopolitical environment. Ros, thank you for joining us. Our EMEA News Director, Rosalind Matheson, there.

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Now, lots of earnings today, and HSBC has reported pre-tax profit for the first quarter that beat the average analyst estimate, with CEO George L. Hedry, who took on the top job in February, calling the numbers strong results. Joining us now is Bloomberg's Charlie Wells. Morning, Charlie. So talk us through HSBC earnings amid the

difficult backdrop of tariffs and US-China tensions. Yeah, Jack, so there's been so much concern that this bank, probably in contrast to so many of the others, both in Europe and on Wall Street, has that huge Asia exposure, and it's also got that huge trade facilitation exposure. And so those themes in the markets right now

have been what have made analysts and investors nervous. At least for this quarter, a lot of those fears have been put to rest. They did have that significant profit beat. But I think maybe even better for a lot of these investors is the $3 billion stock buyback that they announced. So that's going to

please a lot of people. Also, you know, this whole earnings season, whatever business we're looking at, I think the big question has been, okay, sure, you had a great first quarter. That's fine. What does the rest of this year look like? And what's really striking here, what is a story of strength that HSBC is able to tell, they're keeping their guidance for the year ahead after evaluating plausible scenarios. Okay, so that's on HSBC. Meanwhile, Deutsche Bank earnings, the

CFO James von Moltke speaking to Bloomberg, as he usually does, speaking to Bloomberg TV, saying that some of their business units slowed dramatically in April. That's a statement. It is a statement. I think it's this kind of mixed picture that we're getting. I think on the positive side for this bank, they had fixed income trading revenue that beat estimates. But I think they're trying to square the circle here, right? Where

There may have been a slowdown in some areas. There's a lot of uncertainty. And I think one of the big questions is, you know, many of these banks got boosts from volatility. And I think, are we moving from an era where there's this kind of good volatility that helps trading or...

And are we moving to a period where there is bad volatility, where market participants start sitting on the sidelines? I think that's one of the real tough questions that we'll have to keep asking. Good volatility and bad volatility. I like that. Okay. So, away from the banks, what else are we watching this morning in EMEA earnings? Yeah. So, look, we're getting some really interesting updates from across the board. BP first quarter earnings are out. And, you know, the

We were just talking about buybacks. They were able to announce a buyback on the lower end of the guidance, so that's not going to be great. BP's been under pressure, right? That oil price slide amid all of this uncertainty and also the increase in supply that we've seen in the market. That's really difficult for them as well.

And, you know, the automotive sector as well. Porsche cut its full year operating return. This is a company that's really in the crosshairs of these transatlantic tariffs because they produce a lot of their luxury vehicles in Europe and then export them to the United States. That's difficult for them. So, yeah, more earnings on automotive coming this week as well.

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