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TOTD EXTRA: United unveil plans for new 100k stadium

2025/3/12
logo of podcast Talk of the Devils - A show about Manchester United

Talk of the Devils - A show about Manchester United

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Andy Mitten
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Jim Ratcliffe
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Laurie Whitwell
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Omar Barada
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Jim Ratcliffe: 我认为曼联是世界上最伟大的足球俱乐部,也理应拥有世界上最著名的球场。新球场的设计理念是让球迷更靠近球场,营造热烈氛围;球场设计将融入周围环境,并具备可持续性;新球场项目将对曼彻斯特城市复兴产生积极影响;我们将采用预制技术和曼彻斯特船运系统,缩短建设时间。新球场是曼彻斯特复兴项目的重要组成部分,将成为一个具有变革意义的项目,模块化建造技术可以加快球场建设速度,曼彻斯特船运系统将有助于新球场的模块化建造,新球场项目预计在五年内完工。 Laurie Whitwell: 新球场的设计图引起了球迷和媒体的褒贬不一的反应,新球场的设计与老特拉福德球场的设计风格有所不同,新球场项目的资金来源是一个重要问题,目前尚未得到解答。新球场的资金来源可能包括多种方式,例如Ratcliffe自掏腰包、INEOS公司投资、赞助商合作、命名权出售以及增加债务等。 Andy Mitten: 我对老特拉福德球场的改造方案感到矛盾,既感到惋惜,也认为球场需要改变。老特拉福德球场已经过时,需要改变。我支持建造一座容纳10万人的新球场,但同时也关注球场座位的成本和氛围。建造新球场是一个情感问题,需要认真考虑球迷的意见。新球场项目可能对曼彻斯特的城市发展带来积极影响。我对新球场的设计方案既兴奋又有所保留,并担心新球场会抹去我与老特拉福德球场的记忆。我认为新球场的设计最终会与最初的设计图有所不同,我预测新球场项目最终会超出预算和工期。我认为新球场的设计应该保留老特拉福德球场的一些标志性元素,新球场的设计应该考虑如何保留老特拉福德球场的特色和氛围,新球场的设计应该在保留老特拉福德球场特色的同时,兼顾现代化需求。 Carl Anka: 我认为重建老特拉福德球场的成本过高,建造新球场更为划算。我喜欢老特拉福德球场,但同时也希望新球场的设计能够融入老球场的元素。我希望新球场的设计能够保留老特拉福德球场的一些特色。我认为老特拉福德球场并非一座美丽的球场,但新球场的设计应该具有独特性。老特拉福德球场需要进行重大改造,而新球场提供了一个全新的起点。我对新球场的设计风格有所保留,并希望看到不同天气条件下的效果图。我认为球场的标志性地位并非完全取决于设计,也取决于球队的历史和成就。新球场项目的资金来源依赖政府资金支持。我担心新球场项目可能出现成本超支或工期延误的情况。我认为曼联可能会通过发行长期债券来筹集新球场的建设资金。我对新球场项目的模块化建造方案表示怀疑。球场建设资金和俱乐部当前财务状况是两个独立的问题。新球场可能是Ratcliffe的遗产项目。我认为新球场的设计应该保留老特拉福德球场的一些标志性元素。我认为新球场的设计应该考虑如何保留老特拉福德球场的特色和氛围。我认为新球场的设计应该在保留老特拉福德球场特色的同时,兼顾现代化需求。我认为Ratcliffe将新球场视为一个旅游景点。我认为新球场首先应该是一个足球场,而不是一个旅游景点。我认为球场的标志性地位更多地取决于球队的比赛成绩,而不是球场的设计。我认为球场建设和球队成绩同样重要,两者不能互相牺牲。我认为新球场项目是为曼彻斯特的未来发展而建设的。我认为新球场的设计风格可能最终会得到人们的认可。 Omar Barada: 新球场的设计理念是开放和包容的,与传统的球场设计不同。新球场的设计灵感来源于结构工程和标志性建筑的设计理念。新球场的设计目标是成为一座标志性建筑,并为曼彻斯特提供一个独特的场所。曼联需要进行财务调整以实现长期目标。曼联的目标是在未来三年内成为最赚钱的俱乐部。 supporting_evidences Jim Ratcliffe: 'And it starts with the idea of making something which is so intense, it brings you close to the pitch.' Jim Ratcliffe: 'As you move away from the stadium, it's not a fortress surrounded by a sea of cars.' Jim Ratcliffe: 'If we get this right, the regeneration impact could be bigger and better than London 2012.' Jim Ratcliffe: 'Steeped in history Trafford Park was the industrial heartland of the nation' Jim Ratcliffe: 'So what makes a global destination? What makes something so special?' Laurie Whitwell: 'I think key detail is the look of it, to be honest...' Laurie Whitwell: 'It's sad that it doesn't look more like Old Trafford as it is.' Laurie Whitwell: '...the big question is how it's going to be funded...' Andy Mitten: 'I feel really conflicted. I feel Sad that Old Trafford may no longer exist...' Andy Mitten: 'It just looks very 2008.' Andy Mitten: 'I love the idea of 100,000 capacity going head-to-head with Barcelona.' Andy Mitten: 'I get that people have very different opinions on whether they like it or not.' Andy Mitten: 'As Laurie says, we don't know how it's going to be funded.' Andy Mitten: 'I feel conflicted. I love the idea, but I've got so many reservations...' Carl Anka: 'Yeah, it's definitely caused a stir.' Carl Anka: '...the new design to incorporate more of the old Old Trafford...' Carl Anka: 'I don't think that Old Trafford is a beautiful football stadium.' Carl Anka: 'But Old Trafford is our home.' Carl Anka: 'I'm trying to get my head around the tent idea.' Carl Anka: 'I just don't think that three spikes up in the air particularly conveys Manchester United.' Carl Anka: 'But also, Laurie, iconic stadiums, you know, it's not about how they're designed.' Carl Anka: 'But equally, they aren't saying how that's going to work in practicality.' Omar Barada: 'When you look at stadiums, they are pretty much always fortresses.' Omar Barada: '...the verticality of the mast kind of helps.' Omar Barada: '...the most iconic and the most different stadium we could do.' Laurie Whitwell: 'Yeah, well, there wasn't an answer to that.' Jim Ratcliffe: 'But the modules which you heard Norman Foster talk about means that we can build a stadium much more quickly.' Jim Ratcliffe: 'The thing that allows us to do that of course is the Manchester Ship Canop.' Jim Ratcliffe: '...then I think it's a five-year project, not a 10-year project.' Laurie Whitwell: 'Yeah, I don't think Old Trafford will still be there.' Laurie Whitwell: 'This is not just about building a brand new stadium.' Laurie Whitwell: 'Manchester United going bust by Christmas, potentially.' Laurie Whitwell: '...Some of Manchester United's first team squad...are overpaid and not good enough to be at Old Trafford.' Laurie Whitwell: '...it's just not true. They just wouldn't have gone bust by Christmas...' Laurie Whitwell: '...the staff levels wasn't the reason why they were losing money.' Laurie Whitwell: '...it's an ideological thing...' Carl Anka: '...It's probably what Jim Radcliffe wants as his legacy.' Omar Barada: 'What you heard yesterday was about the need to do a course adjustment.' Omar Barada: 'The goal that we have is to become the most profitable club within the next three years.'

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The podcast discusses the ambitious plans for Manchester United's new stadium, its design, and the mixed reactions from fans and media. The key details include the stadium's capacity, its unique design, and the unanswered question of funding.
  • Plans for a new 100,000 capacity stadium unveiled
  • Bold design with mixed fan reactions
  • Funding strategy remains unclear

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Sir Jim Ratcliffe, Manchester United's senior management, and members of the Old Trafford regeneration task force presented plans for a new 100-thousand capacity stadium on Tuesday at Sir Norman Foster's architectural practice in London.

It's a bold design, and one that has drawn mixed reactions from fans and media. We look into the concept, the build strategy, and the persistent question of how this will all be funded.

Sir Jim has been conducting several interviews with media outlets this week and he drew attention with some eyebrow-raising comments about the club's finances and one or two players. Is it just refreshing to have a (co) owner communicating with the public, or can we expect better?

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